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← 2014-05-01 | 2014-05-03 → ↓
00:00 TestingUnoDosTre tried and it said key was already i use
00:00 TestingUnoDosTre "this key is already registered under the server"
00:00 TestingUnoDosTre database*
00:06 benkay hey nanotube how does changing nicks happen
00:07 nanotube benkay: just /nick <newnick> ?
00:07 benkay alternatively, you could sign the new identity with the old identity's keys saying something along the lines of 'now doing business as' and then ask all your raters to rate your new nick
00:07 benkay nanotube: in wot one cannot register a key to two nicks. how would one change one's wot nick.
00:08 TestingUnoDosTre sign the new identity with old key?
00:08 benkay /./?
00:08 benkay well, rate it
00:08 TestingUnoDosTre yah, thought of that
00:08 nanotube TestingUnoDosTre: well, if you wanted to do it without my intervention, you can just change key on your old identity to some new key, then register the old key with a new nick. or... you could just ask me to change your otc username.
00:08 TestingUnoDosTre WOT becomes the tangled web of trust
00:09 nanotube hopefully not tangled :)
00:09 TestingUnoDosTre ooo could you please change my otcusername to TheNewDeal
00:09 nanotube ;;ident TestingUnoDosTre
00:09 gribble Nick 'TestingUnoDosTre', with hostmask 'TestingUnoDosTre!~AndChat31@184.48.161.16', is identified as user 'TestingUnoDosTre', with GPG key id DFBEC17DF96DFB77, key fingerprint 468950118F292A0AA73BCCC3DFBEC17DF96DFB77, and bitcoin address None
00:09 nanotube ;;gpg info TheNewDeal
00:09 gribble No such user registered.
00:09 nanotube heh ok
00:15 TheNewDeal Goodbye TestingUnoDosTre, hello TheNewDeal
00:15 benkay ;;gettrust assbot TheNewDeal
00:15 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask TheNewDeal!~AndChat31@184.48.161.16. Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheNewDeal: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=TheNewDeal | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=TheNewDeal | Rated since: Sun Apr 13 12:56:09 2014
00:17 TheNewDeal ;;rate nanotube 1 wanted to have my gpg key applied to a different nick, helped me achieve in a timely fashion. Muchos gracias!
00:17 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nanotube has been recorded.
00:19 nanotube :)
00:19 TheNewDeal nother follow up question
00:19 TheNewDeal :D
00:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00097439 = 5.2617 BTC [+]
00:20 TheNewDeal if I go and register TheNewDeal_ under this nick, can I still ;;eauth as TheNewDeal?
00:21 nanotube your irc nick is irrelevant, as long as you have the key for thenewdeal, you can auth as thenewdeal, even if your nick is benkay :)
00:22 TheNewDeal so I could have authed as TestingUnoDosTre while I am thenewdeal, just have to be less retarded?
00:23 TheNewDeal understanding now...
00:24 TheNewDeal final question. How easy is it to get an online gambling license in Anitgua as a foreigner?
00:24 benkay bahaha
00:24 TheNewDeal anybody have some prime antigua connections?
00:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0044445 = 0.1111 BTC [-]
00:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2010 @ 0.00014741 = 0.2963 BTC [-] {3}
00:43 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/01/plastic-zerg-laughing-protoss/
00:43 ozbot Plastic Zerg, Laughing Protoss | When Bitcoin Met Pete
00:43 bitcoinpete mostly a rehashing of mircea_popescu's latest, with an added starcraft race
00:44 bitcoinpete aaand i'm out. cheers
00:46 TheNewDeal condoms hould def be subsidized
~ 34 minutes ~
01:20 BingoBoingo !up AgentSmurf
01:20 assbot Voicing AgentSmurf for 30 minutes.
01:22 AgentSmurf where am i? what is this strange place? what is this sound? my own voice? eh..
01:26 BingoBoingo Good Question.
01:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00097205 = 4.5686 BTC [-]
01:31 fluffypony and why am I holding all these cloves of garlic?
01:31 fluffypony all these and many more questions will be answered in next week's exciting episode of
01:32 fluffypony The Bitcoin Assets Playbook
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00097184 = 7.7747 BTC [-] {3}
01:38 benkay !up jordandotdev
01:38 assbot Voicing jordandotdev for 30 minutes.
01:38 benkay !up soulblade738
01:38 assbot Voicing soulblade738 for 30 minutes.
01:41 TheNewDeal are beings becoming sentient in bitcoin-assets tonight?
01:41 BingoBoingo Seems possible.
01:45 TheNewDeal ;;google time value bitcoin
01:45 gribble Bitcoin Charts / Charts: <http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/>; Bitcoin Market Price (USD) - Blockchain.info: <http://blockchain.info/charts/market-price>; Bitcoinity Markets - Bitcoinity.org: <https://bitcoinity.org/markets>
01:45 TheNewDeal hmph
01:45 benkay a bitcoin today is worth how many bitcoin next year?
01:45 benkay fundamental problem.
01:45 TheNewDeal yes
01:48 TestingUnoDosTre benkay
01:49 TestingUnoDosTre say I want to invest 1 btc in a bitbet that will resolve jan 1 2015
01:50 TestingUnoDosTre how much interest (in btc) should I need for a bet that resolves in half the time, to compare equally
01:51 TestingUnoDosTre !up agentsmurf
01:51 assbot Voicing agentsmurf for 30 minutes.
01:53 benkay bitbet opened in january?
01:53 benkay last january?
01:53 benkay so 15 mos?
01:54 TestingUnoDosTre jan 1 2015 is like 8 months from now
01:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.03585275 = 0.251 BTC [+] {7}
01:54 TestingUnoDosTre so lets say I want to put 1 btc down on a bet that resolves 1 august 2014
01:55 BingoBoingo It really depends on what you are betting on and who else might want to bet.
01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03627054 = 0.3627 BTC [+] {10}
01:55 TestingUnoDosTre lets just stick to the time value of having 1 btc locked up in a bet for 4 months vs 8 months
01:56 TestingUnoDosTre do you know what I mean?
01:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0376818 = 0.4145 BTC [+] {11}
01:56 BingoBoingo I'm not sure what you are trying to mean matters much.
01:56 TestingUnoDosTre haha well I shall continue
01:57 BingoBoingo If you want to lock up a bitcoin on Bitbet, the most important thing is having good information.
01:57 BingoBoingo But yeah, continue
01:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.03872165 = 0.3485 BTC [+] {9}
01:57 TestingUnoDosTre so If I'm going to buy a stock option that expires jan 1 2015 of company A
01:57 TestingUnoDosTre let's say it costs $100
01:58 TestingUnoDosTre and then I wait 4 months
01:58 TestingUnoDosTre stock price stays the same
01:58 TestingUnoDosTre but option costs $200
01:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
01:59 benkay i think the bitbet return betting the house line is about 0.5%/mo
01:59 benkay http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/betting-bitbet-both-ways/
01:59 TestingUnoDosTre I did just read the article today
01:59 TestingUnoDosTre very intruiging
01:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
02:00 TestingUnoDosTre but what I am asking is, what is the cost of locking up a bitcoin for a period of time
02:00 fluffypony punkman: I was *so close* to pulling the trigger on that Montrex watch when I saw it, but I couldn't find anything open an "open source Suisse" movement on the web so I figured something was awry...so glad I didn't go for it
02:00 TestingUnoDosTre because it seams to be negative
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03899949 = 0.39 BTC [+] {8}
02:01 benkay hah yes you do recieve a return for placing btc on bitbet
02:01 benkay or you can i suppose
02:01 BingoBoingo TestingUnoDosTre: Well, in this exercise are you betting both sides?
02:01 BingoBoingo Or only the winning one?
02:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.03936362 = 0.433 BTC [+] {9}
02:01 TestingUnoDosTre nonono
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre you could be doing this with both sides if you wish
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre ill try another example
02:02 benkay think about it like this: bitbet pays you interest for providing liquidity
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre lets say I'm betting both sides on two bets
02:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03966867 = 0.3967 BTC [+] {8}
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre I'll lay .5 btc on yes and no for bet 1 and bet 2
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre bet 1 ends 4 months from now
02:02 TestingUnoDosTre bet 2 ends 8 months from now
02:03 TestingUnoDosTre what rate should I pursue (I realize I don't have a control in it), for the two returns to be "equal"
02:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999973 = 0.32 BTC [+] {8}
02:04 TestingUnoDosTre if it were in dollars
02:04 BingoBoingo .5 on each side is probably a poor mix.
02:04 benkay you can't guarantee a rate anyways, TestingUnoDosTre
02:04 TestingUnoDosTre it's a thought experiment for jah's sake
02:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03067661 = 0.1841 BTC [+] {3}
02:04 TestingUnoDosTre my point is this
02:04 TestingUnoDosTre in USD
02:05 TestingUnoDosTre if bet 2 had a return of 10%
02:05 TestingUnoDosTre what would the return be for bet 1 to be equal to bet 2
02:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03070893 = 0.6142 BTC [+] {12}
02:05 TestingUnoDosTre the answer is, slightly less than 5%
02:06 TestingUnoDosTre because you could (theoretically again), place another bet down, hoping for that same 4 month return, and you would equal the bet 2 return of 10%
02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03128571 = 0.219 BTC [+] {4}
02:07 TestingUnoDosTre I'm not saying you would for sure win these bets. I'm asking, if you did win these bets, what would be the answer for a BTC scenario
02:07 BingoBoingo Honestly given the type of site BitBet is, I would be more concerned with trying to win the bets outright instead of chasing a fixed return.
02:07 TestingUnoDosTre bitbet is not really the point
02:08 TestingUnoDosTre it's really any investment vehicle, denominated in BTC
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03202939 = 0.5445 BTC [+] {8}
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.03371137 = 0.2023 BTC [-] {3}
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] {3}
02:08 TestingUnoDosTre For instance, if you were going to loan out 1 btc today to two people, one is going to pay you back in 4 months, the second in 8 months
02:09 TestingUnoDosTre does anyone here catch a whiff of what I'm smoking?
02:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0331923 = 0.4315 BTC [+] {7}
02:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
02:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
02:09 BingoBoingo TestingUnoDosTre: Sure
02:10 BingoBoingo Just as soon as you disconnected returns over time from parimutuel betting.
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03399998 = 0.612 BTC [+] {8}
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {2}
02:11 TestingUnoDosTre do you have an answer for me?
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03512634 = 0.7728 BTC [+] {7}
02:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03543999 = 1.0632 BTC [+] {8}
02:12 BingoBoingo Not really.
02:13 benkay so you get n% per month
02:13 benkay you get 4n% for gamble a
02:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0399999 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}
02:13 benkay 8n for b
02:14 benkay nope. don't get it.
02:14 TestingUnoDosTre i like where you're going
02:14 TestingUnoDosTre but here's the thing
02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {4}
02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0310062 = 0.155 BTC [-] {3}
02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.04006201 = 0.5609 BTC [+] {8}
02:15 TestingUnoDosTre if I could sustain any positive % earnings in BTC / unit of time, my wealth would be skyrocketing in some years time
02:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04033376 = 0.9277 BTC [+] {11}
02:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02910139 = 0.1455 BTC [-] {4}
02:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] {4}
02:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.000974 = 20.6488 BTC [+] {4}
02:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0290834 = 0.1745 BTC [-] {4}
02:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.04086564 = 0.6947 BTC [+] {8}
02:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] {4}
02:17 TestingUnoDosTre anyways, I must ponder this over a nights rest
02:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.04098148 = 0.4918 BTC [+] {6}
02:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 27 @ 0.04098799 = 1.1067 BTC [+] {8}
02:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
02:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.040988 = 0.123 BTC [+] {3}
02:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03543672 = 0.4252 BTC [+] {5}
02:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.03543999 = 1.1341 BTC [+] {6}
02:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.03574808 = 0.7507 BTC [+] {12}
02:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03365846 = 0.2693 BTC [-] {6}
02:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {6}
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 33 @ 0.03596938 = 1.187 BTC [+] {8}
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [-] {2}
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {2}
02:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.04098481 = 0.2459 BTC [+] {3}
02:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.04098944 = 1.9675 BTC [+] {9}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.04101997 = 0.9845 BTC [+] {10}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0285509 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {5}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] {5}
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0421571 = 0.8431 BTC [+] {8}
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02852509 = 0.2853 BTC [-] {4}
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {3}
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04146274 = 0.1659 BTC [-] {2}
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
02:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4969999 BTC [+]
02:35 BingoBoingo https://blog.conformal.com/btcd-getwork-cgminer-profit/
02:35 ozbot Btcd + getwork + cgminer = profit | Conformal Systems, LLC.
02:36 benkay hurrah for conformal
02:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.07050001 = 0.282 BTC [-]
02:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48983333 = 1.4695 BTC [-] {2}
03:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.073 = 0.73 BTC [-]
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00097022 = 17.852 BTC [-]
03:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.073 = 1.022 BTC [-]
03:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07013423 = 3.156 BTC [-] {9}
~ 56 minutes ~
04:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06909641 = 5.5277 BTC [-] {6}
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04278899 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {3}
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {3}
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07318999 = 0.1464 BTC [+]
04:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.06474168 = 2.7192 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
04:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8095 @ 0.00097158 = 7.8649 BTC [-]
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06914674 = 1.3829 BTC [-] {4}
05:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.06853236 = 1.4392 BTC [-] {4}
~ 29 minutes ~
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48999 BTC [+]
~ 18 minutes ~
05:48 fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYT8eg1F8s
05:48 ozbot The dune buggy that can fly - YouTube
05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00097433 = 18.6097 BTC [+] {3}
05:48 fluffypony want.
~ 26 minutes ~
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7658 @ 0.00097371 = 7.4567 BTC [-]
06:16 kakobrekla mornin
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031 = 0.248 BTC [-] {2}
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03450968 = 0.2761 BTC [-] {2}
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {2}
06:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1295 BTC [-]
06:33 fluffypony kakobrekla: mornings
06:34 kakobrekla how is it
06:37 fluffypony good
06:39 kakobrekla !up julles
06:39 assbot Voicing julles for 30 minutes.
06:39 kakobrekla !up TestNaut3
06:39 assbot Voicing TestNaut3 for 30 minutes.
06:39 kakobrekla !up Sorcier_FXK
06:39 assbot Voicing Sorcier_FXK for 30 minutes.
06:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5854 @ 0.00097123 = 5.6856 BTC [-]
06:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28831 @ 0.00096961 = 27.9548 BTC [-] {3}
07:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 439 @ 0.000969 = 0.4254 BTC [-]
07:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.06761351 = 0.2028 BTC [-]
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03299069 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {6}
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03487551 = 0.279 BTC [-] {5}
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-] {5}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03299081 = 0.2309 BTC [+] {3}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.03322581 = 0.2326 BTC [-] {3}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.06474168 = 0.4532 BTC [-] {3}
07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
07:17 mircea_popescu lol look what i've found
07:17 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/roba-da-ricchi/
07:17 ozbot Roba da ricchi pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
07:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18538 @ 0.00096933 = 17.9694 BTC [+] {2}
07:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13609 @ 0.00096868 = 13.1828 BTC [-]
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.005995 = 0.2818 BTC [+]
07:30 mircea_popescu ;;rated artifexd
07:30 gribble You have not yet rated user artifexd
07:30 mircea_popescu ;;rate artifexd 1 Best story of a nick I ever heard.
07:30 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user artifexd has been recorded.
07:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.06474168 = 0.6474 BTC [-]
07:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]
07:48 jurov hi mircea_popescu, deposits pls
07:52 jurov !up ReturnOfTheOp if you insist...
07:52 assbot Voicing ReturnOfTheOp for 30 minutes.
07:52 jurov !up sunshyne
07:52 assbot Voicing sunshyne for 30 minutes.
07:52 jurov !up CheckDavid
07:52 assbot Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12960 @ 0.0009732 = 12.6127 BTC [+] {2}
07:57 mircea_popescu jurov on it.
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4899 BTC [-]
08:07 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/
08:07 ozbot The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:08 mircea_popescu if anyone fancies himself a screenplay writer.
08:10 CheckDavid Hey jurov thanks
08:10 CheckDavid I have nothing to say though
08:10 CheckDavid Lol
08:11 mircea_popescu lol
08:13 fluffypony Naphex:)
08:14 CheckDavid Like there can’t be a larger binary digit than 1
08:14 CheckDavid Does it translate to
08:14 CheckDavid Higher decimal digit than 9 ?
08:15 mircea_popescu yea
08:15 jurov !up Naphex assbot got resstarted
08:15 assbot Voicing Naphex for 30 minutes.
08:15 ThickAsThieves i propose a different ending for the movie mp
08:15 mircea_popescu !up VanCleef
08:15 assbot Voicing VanCleef for 30 minutes.
08:15 Naphex ;;ident
08:15 gribble Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu
08:15 VanCleef thanks
08:15 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves which ?
08:15 Naphex i just got ident'd :p
08:15 ThickAsThieves as it strikes me as imbalanced
08:15 VanCleef yeh just reading the movie idea
08:15 Naphex damn server splits
08:15 CheckDavid That's some expensive vocabulary
08:16 CheckDavid When I talk like that my friends
08:16 CheckDavid Almost kill me
08:16 VanCleef i think it would make a good tv show
08:16 CheckDavid Like I am overcomplicated
08:16 mircea_popescu tv show ?!
08:16 ThickAsThieves the ending is the barbarian's own advisor, proposing and convincing him of his first laws of order (hinting at an eventual recreation of the original empire the movie started with)
08:16 mircea_popescu but it has an event. how many episodes before, and how many after ? either way it's... two tv shows
08:17 CheckDavid mircea_popescu: could I voice VanCleef in case he were not already voiced?
08:17 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nah. that's imbalanced. it proposes the idiocy is somehow okay.
08:17 mircea_popescu CheckDavid but he is.
08:17 ThickAsThieves no it proposes the order and chaos are cyclical
08:17 CheckDavid Come on.
08:17 VanCleef what's your set piece?
08:17 CheckDavid Just tell me. Don't troll
08:18 mircea_popescu VanCleef set piece ?
08:18 ThickAsThieves (because they are)
08:18 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i guess it does that. and yes they are. but it ain't the political statement i wish to make :)
08:18 mircea_popescu art is, after all, politics.
08:18 ThickAsThieves it's the political statement i wish to make
08:18 CheckDavid Ok I will test myself if you don't want to answer
08:19 ThickAsThieves that your statement is no more "right" than the other
08:19 mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/a/C2mhE < also
08:19 VanCleef The term setpiece is often used more broadly to describe any important dramatic or comedic highpoint in a film or story, particularly those that provide some kind of dramatic payoff, resolution, or transition.
08:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's why you're in the marbles and i'm in the furs, because you actually believe that :D
08:19 ThickAsThieves nah i'm just the delusionist
08:19 mircea_popescu VanCleef indicated i nthe text by "This scene makes or breaks the whole film"
08:20 ThickAsThieves i wear what suits you
08:20 ThickAsThieves ;)
08:20 mircea_popescu CheckDavid oh i see now what you meant.
08:20 VanCleef yeah i was thinking that when i read it
08:20 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid
08:20 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 12:52:24 2014
08:20 mircea_popescu CheckDavid no, you could not.
08:20 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lol
08:20 CheckDavid Thanks mircea
08:21 CheckDavid In Wisconsin, it is illegal to serve apple pie in public restaurants without cheese
08:21 CheckDavid Lol
08:21 CheckDavid Nice contraband opportunity
08:21 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves btw, if it makes you feel better : <chetty> your movie needs a sequel <mircea_popescu> well sure. <mircea_popescu> you wanna make money, always leave room for a sequel.
08:21 VanCleef you could just pay someone to write the script
08:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48999 BTC [+]
08:22 mircea_popescu i could. but i prefer to give someone the chance to write the script.
08:22 mircea_popescu the greatness of money, you get to make choices and have preferences.
08:22 mircea_popescu whoa look at that shit, equal character count!
08:23 mircea_popescu !up CheckDavid
08:23 assbot Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
08:23 VanCleef who would be your target audience for this film?
08:23 VanCleef bitcoiners?
08:23 CheckDavid I wonder if one can get government funds to research and develop crypto currencies
08:24 ThickAsThieves ah poop, your comment section stripped the handles
08:24 jurov CheckDavid: there are plenty of bachelor/master theses on it
08:24 mircea_popescu VanCleef or people whoi like alma-tadema, or people who like to see men get fucked, or w/e
08:24 mircea_popescu i don't write for audiences.
08:24 jurov it's certain they will continue with it
08:25 mircea_popescu CheckDavid if you had read the logs, there was even a cushy us govt job offered.
08:25 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves see now look what you've done!!1
08:26 mircea_popescu it's anonymized
08:26 VanCleef to be honest its a lil over my head, i hvave to read it a few times to fully understand it
08:27 VanCleef i wanted to do a homage to 80's action films and do one about the most powerful groups of people that run the world today and they all work in this underground sex trade where they only use women as currency
08:27 mircea_popescu ew.
08:28 mircea_popescu why not have them fuck ductaped baby chickens, and use THAT as the currency.
08:28 VanCleef lol
08:28 ThickAsThieves i'm gonna make a post in MY blog about the new ending, cuz apparently it's all the rage these days, blogging on top of what mp says ;)
08:28 mircea_popescu what, you have a blog ?
08:29 ThickAsThieves dude your memory
08:29 mircea_popescu dude get out, do you even footnote ?
08:29 ThickAsThieves trolling?
08:29 ThickAsThieves lol
08:29 mircea_popescu (i had that typed out :D)
08:29 bounce ducktaped chickens, bio-fleshlights? the sheer depravity. minus personpoints for you!
08:29 mircea_popescu ty, ty.
08:30 mircea_popescu no but i mean, if he's going for the outrage value, at least go all the way.
08:30 ThickAsThieves i guess, in a way, my blog *is* your blog, since you sparked it
08:30 mircea_popescu this is where i link that "all one" california soap nuttery
08:30 CheckDavid mircea_popescu: offered here?
08:30 CheckDavid Like a government official came here to offer it? Lol
08:31 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/
08:31 ozbot We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:32 VanCleef anywho yeh you should develop your story a bit more
08:32 mircea_popescu that's the screenwriter's job.
08:32 mircea_popescu i gave him some freedom implicit there, so his job doesn't suck
08:32 VanCleef how much btc?
08:32 mircea_popescu i dunno dood, i don't even run a studio. chances are, it'll never get made anyway
08:33 VanCleef that's okey studios pay like 50k just to own scripts and keep them under their desk
08:33 VanCleef then they pay you more if they decide to make the movie
08:33 mircea_popescu did you ever get paid 50k + more ?
08:34 VanCleef i only wrote one script but i deleted it recently
08:34 mircea_popescu right. so how'd you know ?
08:34 VanCleef that's how it works in hollywood
08:35 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE << here's the real story.
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08:35 ozbot Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer - YouTube
08:35 mircea_popescu and ellison has had a few scripts optioned, so i guess he'd know.
08:36 mircea_popescu (also that's pre-crisis. it was way better then)
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 51 @ 0.03242383 = 1.6536 BTC [+] {9}
08:36 bounce 50k for 120 pages. hm. maybe worth a shot.
08:36 bounce how to fill 120 pages worth of screenplay from irc logs? now there's a fiddy kay question.
08:37 mircea_popescu bounce that's for believers. for engineers, it's 120 pages for a lottery ticket in an unauthorised lottery with an alleged cash prize of 50k (conditions apply)
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.032477 = 0.6171 BTC [+] {10}
08:37 VanCleef i'm not an asshole, pay me mircea :P
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08:38 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/wu3IRQW.jpg this isn't so bad. minus the plastic stench ;/
08:38 VanCleef ellison is right
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08:39 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/OGW3PJD.jpg << total fucking good law. i want this on my books.
08:39 mircea_popescu none of that soggy bullshit.
08:40 VanCleef anywho this voiced stuff sucks
08:40 VanCleef athero or whatever his name was had good wot ratings
08:40 VanCleef just kick people or mute them if you dont want them to talk
08:41 jurov [13:57] <mircea_popescu> jurov on it << dun see it
08:41 VanCleef alot of scammers were using wot and had good ratings
08:41 mircea_popescu jurov lol gimme a second.
08:41 VanCleef wot is a fail
08:41 mircea_popescu VanCleef you need to read the logs. this was discussed to death.
08:41 VanCleef cant we just go back to how it use to be?
08:41 VanCleef it was alot better
08:42 mircea_popescu !down VanCleef
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.00558 = 0.106 BTC [-]
08:49 ThickAsThieves http://devilsadvocate.biz/i-wear-what-suits-you/
08:49 ozbot In the Spirit of the Devil’s Advocate, I Wear What Suits You
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08:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.00556 = 1.0008 BTC [-]
08:55 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i like the coloring.
08:57 ThickAsThieves hopefully you dont mind being blue :)
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 55 @ 0.06474168 = 3.5608 BTC [-]
08:57 mircea_popescu blue boy... that's what they callleeeed meeee
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00097164 = 20.4044 BTC [-] {2}
08:59 mircea_popescu !up CheckDavid
08:59 assbot Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
08:59 CheckDavid Blue?
09:00 CheckDavid You guys means this?
09:00 CheckDavid http://www.coinside.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMG_0549-kopiya.jpg
09:00 CheckDavid I don't get why they are so skinny though
09:00 ThickAsThieves eww
09:01 ThickAsThieves 2 of the girls are aliens
09:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03243852 = 0.3244 BTC [-] {6}
09:02 ThickAsThieves "This game is anticipated to be rate Mature" lol.
09:02 pankkake mature as in milf?
09:02 mircea_popescu no, mature as in heroin addict chicks.
09:03 mircea_popescu what's with these people and body painting unhealthy looking women ?
09:03 ThickAsThieves rated*
09:03 mircea_popescu whoa. panties on ?! omfg the indignity
09:03 pankkake that was a tentative joke. anyway, have to agree on the trend of linking to trilema on every blog post
09:04 ThickAsThieves i was more digging at bitcoinpete, mp's #1 fan
09:04 mircea_popescu well what are you gonna do, ban me ? DO NOT HATE ME BECAUSE I AM BEEEEAUTIFULH!
09:04 ThickAsThieves lol
09:05 ThickAsThieves i'm just jelly!
09:05 pankkake BingoBoingo and benkay are good at the game too
09:05 pankkake though I actually read your first post thanks to a trilema pingback, so, it werks
09:06 mircea_popescu pankkake do you like analytix the fuck out of those blogs ?
09:06 mircea_popescu link count and everything ?
09:06 ThickAsThieves even when we break out of the channel and its impossible log, we create a web of cross-referenced blogs to further fuck with newcomers
09:06 pankkake I'm susbscribed to trilema comments so I see the links, that's all
09:06 mircea_popescu oh i see
09:06 mircea_popescu wait, you can still be subscribed to comments ? like via email ?
09:06 pankkake RSS
09:07 pankkake but I rarely see this practice (linking to posts) nowadays, even though this probably gave the name to "blogosphere"
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09:08 pankkake now it's all about CENTRALIZED platforms!
09:08 ThickAsThieves because most bloggers have no friends
09:08 ThickAsThieves not even internet ones
09:08 pankkake I made friends by blogging!!
09:08 pankkake GIRLS.
09:08 pankkake well, girl
09:08 mircea_popescu actually i link a lot.
09:09 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-vote-yields-no-new-board-members/
09:09 ThickAsThieves lel
09:09 mircea_popescu i love linking. and i still believe in the old concepts of the web, from back like 1999
09:09 mircea_popescu pankkake is she here ?
09:09 pankkake web2.0 also had "semantic web" but it never really existed :(
09:09 pankkake we don't talk anymore unfortunately
09:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03300005 = 0.33 BTC [-] {2}
09:09 mircea_popescu "web 2.0" and all its associated bullshits lawl.
09:10 mircea_popescu web 1.0 was and sitll is good enough. in the sense of way better than any walled garden bullshit.
09:10 pankkake semantic web is all about urls and proper markup
09:10 ThickAsThieves i saw someone use ethereum and the like as a Web 3.0 reference
09:10 ThickAsThieves i almost died
09:10 pankkake not 1MB of javascript
09:10 pankkake lol
09:11 ThickAsThieves maybe we'll just start calling generations that way instead of Generation X, it's Web 3.0!
09:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im kinda curious how far the nonsense will go. specificaslly, if the comatose media-only "Web 2.0" will be forgotten and a new web 2.0 will be enacted, out of the same pressed shitboard,
09:11 mircea_popescu or if they will take 2.0 as a thing that actually existed, and continue the count.
09:12 ThickAsThieves i think itll get to 3.0 then go away
09:12 ThickAsThieves 4.0 starts looking silly, even to idiots
09:12 ThickAsThieves but i'm known for overestimating the idiot
09:12 mircea_popescu you know knuth counted to pi.
09:13 ThickAsThieves idiot
09:13 ThickAsThieves :)
09:13 mircea_popescu wait wut
09:13 mircea_popescu lol
09:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.06474168 = 1.2301 BTC [-]
09:15 ThickAsThieves Brock Pierce, what a name
09:15 mircea_popescu let me guess. yet another ex child actor turned bitcoin investiteur ?
09:15 ThickAsThieves yep, Gyft
09:16 ThickAsThieves and The Mighty Ducks
09:16 cazalla for all of 10 seconds
09:17 ThickAsThieves But the idea that underage boys were drugged and raped at the Encino estate, and sometimes threatened with guns by Collins-Rector, is hardly new. Egan was one of several young men to make such allegations in lawsuits filed against Collins-Rector, Shackley and Pierce 14 years ago -- court cases in which the plaintiffs won $4.5 million from Collins-Rector and Shackley by default because
09:17 ThickAsThieves the trio had fled the country (Pierce reached a settlement).
09:17 mircea_popescu lmao
09:18 mircea_popescu so it'd be safe to say he was attracted to bitcoin by bruce wagner ?
09:18 ThickAsThieves Pierce's most recent bio says he is co-founder of GoCoin, ExpressCoin, KnCMiner.cn and Robocoin Asia.
09:19 mircea_popescu i wonder if asicminer has figured out yet that it can probably make a decent penny selling such "board seats"
09:19 ThickAsThieves GoCoin, isnt that the one all the SeedCoinFund people are butthurt about "missing" out on?
09:19 mircea_popescu to celebrities desperate for retroactive "involvement" who still are noobish enough to imagine this will allow them to bypass the wot.
09:20 ThickAsThieves i think the asicminer board is in an ill state actually
09:20 ThickAsThieves they won't remove me from their email list so i still see hints of it
09:20 ThickAsThieves participation appears to be low
09:20 mircea_popescu well that's not really new.
09:20 ThickAsThieves dividends moving to monthly
09:20 ThickAsThieves shit like that
09:21 ThickAsThieves yeah that's true, when i was there 10 people might show up, but only 3 or 4 ever talked
09:21 mircea_popescu lol. ah if only they had enough sense to do what told a while back.
09:22 ThickAsThieves now it seems only 4 show up an hour late to nothing
09:23 ThickAsThieves The US economy created 288,000 jobs in April, the strongest monthly job creation since January 2012.
09:24 ThickAsThieves "The one thing I would be careful with though is the decline in the unemployment rate, the decline in the unemployment rate was a function of the labour force falling by 806,000, that is gargantuan decline," he added.
09:24 ThickAsThieves dafuck
09:24 ThickAsThieves lol
09:24 mircea_popescu people leave, what.
09:25 mircea_popescu you want to leave, everyone you know here wants to leave, what's so surprising ?
09:25 mircea_popescu a lot have left, a lot more are leaving and a helluva lot more will be leaving.
09:26 ThickAsThieves well part of my dafuckness is how they are all "It's a flat out good report. All of the metrics that you want to see improve, did," said Tom Porcelli
09:26 ThickAsThieves but then are like, well a million people left, so there's that
09:26 ThickAsThieves left/died?
09:27 mircea_popescu well... the reports that were made to make you feel good are made in the way that we agreed will make you feel good.
09:27 mircea_popescu so why dont you feel good ? are you perhaps insane ?
09:27 mircea_popescu it seems to me like this is slow onset schizophrenia, mydear boy.
09:28 ThickAsThieves am i a terrorist?
09:28 ThickAsThieves maybe xanax can sort me out
09:29 ThickAsThieves the picture in the bbc article for it is awesome too http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27257760
09:29 mircea_popescu im kinda surprised nobody is selling slow-release xanax dildos yet.
09:29 ThickAsThieves miserable dude in camo eating at the place he cleans shit
09:29 mircea_popescu suckle your way to pleasant dreams
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09:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/lectia-de-humor/ < i found an old english article! from 2009!
09:55 ozbot Lectia de humor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
09:58 asciilifeform 'web 3.0' << 'i don't know what weapons ww3 will be fought with, but ww4 will be fought with bow and arrow'
09:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform course the flaw there is to assume people whose tech is bow and arrow have the means to fight a Ww.
09:59 asciilifeform well sure.
10:00 asciilifeform but they might call it one.
10:01 mircea_popescu and they probably will
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00014728 = 0.5891 BTC [+]
10:13 mircea_popescu !up stickie
10:13 assbot Voicing stickie for 30 minutes.
10:16 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/#comment-99493
10:16 ozbot The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:19 mircea_popescu answer't.
10:20 asciilifeform lol!!!
10:20 asciilifeform i like this one more.
10:21 mircea_popescu see, the importance of community in one's life.
10:22 assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 25000 @ 0.00021725 = 5.4313 BTC [+]
10:24 artifexd ;;later tell jurov Do you round deposits down to the nearest btc?
10:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:27 mircea_popescu jurov and whoever else was waiting : mpex deposits flushed.
10:38 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/o-metoda-simpla-si-eficienta-de-a-produce-un-blog-excelent-pe-pasi/ <<< me on blogging. "simple and efficient way to produce an excellent blog, step by step"
10:38 ozbot O metoda simpla si eficienta de-a produce un blog excelent, pe pasi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea
10:40 pankkake if only it was written in a simple and eficient language
10:41 mircea_popescu yeah i should have it translated.
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.07087485 = 1.9845 BTC [+] {2}
10:48 mircea_popescu ტ wow look at that, mouse glyph
10:48 mircea_popescu ბ << fucktarded apple mouse glyph
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11:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? looks more like 'anarchist bomb'
11:37 asciilifeform and ტ is - power switch. aka 'the any key.'
11:37 Apocalyptic <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? // looks like an apple to me
11:38 asciilifeform plum.
11:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00014696 = 0.2939 BTC [-]
11:55 mircea_popescu well it's the eye of the beholder!
11:55 mircea_popescu !up rgbiv
11:55 assbot Voicing rgbiv for 30 minutes.
11:55 ThickAsThieves fwiw those characters appear much different depending on font in use
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42750 @ 0.00097413 = 41.6441 BTC [+] {2}
11:58 mircea_popescu hoiw are they in comic sans /
11:59 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/what-happens-inside-bitcoin-audit/
11:59 ThickAsThieves “A lot of these things are difficult to verify or prove”
11:59 mircea_popescu derpdesk ?
12:00 ThickAsThieves coinhusk
12:00 mircea_popescu "Valuable skills
12:00 mircea_popescu So, who is Stefan Thomas, and why is he the person Powell called?
12:00 mircea_popescu Thomas is Chief Technical Officer at Ripple Labs, a company that created its own payment protocol and prides itself on a transparent public ledger of transactions."
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.60318124 BTC to 8`283 shares, 31428 satoshi per share
12:00 mircea_popescu how to be so wrong you have no idea of exactly how wrong you are : read coindesk.
12:00 mircea_popescu and wired.
12:01 ThickAsThieves i cant even understand how Ripple guy still gets play
12:01 ThickAsThieves like no one *really* uses it right?
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 85.30121001 BTC to 80`673 shares, 105737 satoshi per share
12:01 ThickAsThieves and looking back at last year's AMS conference, he was pretty quiet on the panels
12:03 mircea_popescu anyway, 5k words and no mention of the actual point this all started from.
12:04 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-57#msg4924847
12:04 ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk
12:04 mircea_popescu for the people keeping score at home.
12:04 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-57#post-4671068 even.
12:04 ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk
12:05 mircea_popescu (dargo also quit, subsequently)
12:05 mircea_popescu so that makes her 2 out of 2.
12:05 mircea_popescu guess who's the expert in this story.
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07094178 = 0.4966 BTC [-]
12:05 kakobrekla how did he quit, he is still providing support
12:06 mircea_popescu last seen on the forum what, late feb ?
12:06 mircea_popescu support is one thing.
12:06 kakobrekla https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kraken-com-exchange-now-open-with-usd-eur-btc-ltc-xrp-nmc-xdg.168224/page-93#post-6185968
12:06 ozbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 93 | Bitcointa.lk
12:07 kakobrekla how about wednesday
12:07 mircea_popescu hm
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0709736 = 0.4258 BTC [+] {3}
12:07 mircea_popescu Dargo was last seen: Feb 27, 2014
12:07 mircea_popescu whgat the fuck is this
12:08 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/members/dargo.30215/ << what do you get there ?
12:08 ozbot Dargo | Bitcointa.lk
12:08 mircea_popescu Last Activity: Feb 27, 2014 Joined: Jul 8, 2011 is what i get
12:09 kakobrekla dat thing doesnt work
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12:09 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=32856
12:09 ozbot View the profile of Dargo
12:09 kakobrekla Last Active:Today at 02:45:22 PM
12:09 mircea_popescu omfg i've been bambozled.
12:09 artifexd Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? They had less than 10btc of volume in the last 24 hours. Talk about a fucked up signal.
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.071 = 0.142 BTC [+]
12:09 kakobrekla yes but look at the logo
12:09 mircea_popescu ;;later tell cevidad yo! there's some brokage in your forum. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#655592
12:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:10 mircea_popescu artifexd you obviously don't have the "valuable skills" to understand these things :D
12:10 artifexd Apparently....
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07118799 = 0.3559 BTC [+] {3}
12:10 ThickAsThieves i think it's cevidad
12:10 Apocalyptic <artifexd> Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? << same reaction here
12:10 mircea_popescu ;;seen cevidad
12:10 gribble I have not seen cevidad.
12:10 mircea_popescu ;;seen cedivad
12:10 gribble cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <cedivad> i actually have one, but i never really wrote about hashfast, bitcointa.lk or any other of my web-related experiences (i manage some really huge websites)...
12:10 ThickAsThieves oh
12:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves dyslexia!
12:11 ThickAsThieves dylsexia ftk
12:11 ThickAsThieves ftl
12:11 ThickAsThieves lol
12:11 ThickAsThieves you even beat me at self-deprecation
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07193999 = 0.6475 BTC [+]
12:13 mircea_popescu for the lol ? for the kelp ?
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07194 = 0.2878 BTC [+]
12:19 ThickAsThieves for the loss
12:19 ThickAsThieves for the kale
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07194 = 0.1439 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07194 = 0.2158 BTC [+]
12:26 ThickAsThieves haha, cleaning old stuff and found a business plan i did to open a record store, i was pretty young obv: "XXXX XXXX will help me with of retail store's responsibilities. He is an extremely trusted friend and works very well with people. I whole-heartedly feel he is my best and favorite choice for the position."
12:27 ThickAsThieves I kicked him off the project shortly after, and we nearly came to blows as roommates not long after that. I never got past writing the plan, thankfully.
12:30 fluffypony old business proposals make me cringe
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07013139 = 0.3507 BTC [-]
12:33 mircea_popescu lol
12:33 mircea_popescu you know i never wrote one ?
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0719399 = 0.1439 BTC [+]
12:39 fluffypony I always enjoyed it as a way to cement my thoughts
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014891 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
12:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03199998 = 0.384 BTC [+]
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.032 = 0.128 BTC [+] {2}
12:47 fluffypony https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/p480x480/10260012_10152356519251069_6233155153590700494_n.jpg
12:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.03280951 = 0.689 BTC [+] {5}
12:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03349867 = 0.1675 BTC [-]
12:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
12:47 fluffypony caption: "rioters trying to convince the police to install vlc media player"
12:47 bitcoinpete fluffypony: lol nice
12:47 bitcoinpete http://www.vox.com/2014/4/30/5668588/illinois-connecticut-maryland-gallup-interstate-migration-rates
12:47 ozbot Half of people living in Illinois and Connecticut want to get the hell out - Vox
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.06474168 = 0.6474 BTC [-]
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03150035 = 0.4725 BTC [-] {3}
12:48 bitcoinpete "Montanans, Hawaiians, and Mainers are least likely to say they'd want to leave, with fewer than one-quarter of those residents saying they'd move"
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0334972 = 0.5025 BTC [-] {3}
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 393 @ 0.00552151 = 2.17 BTC [-] {11}
12:55 mircea_popescu lol
12:55 mircea_popescu fluffypony no, i meant as a kid. they do this "o write a business plan" many places.
12:55 fluffypony oh lol
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0719399 = 0.2158 BTC [+] {2}
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03349514 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {2}
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.0315336 = 0.473 BTC [+] {2}
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.06474168 = 0.6474 BTC [-] {2}
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07194 = 0.2158 BTC [+]
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03349572 = 0.335 BTC [+]
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0730699 = 0.6576 BTC [+]
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] {2}
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 1000 @ 0.00135201 = 1.352 BTC [+] {2}
13:11 bitcoinpete Now my posts are being translated:
13:11 bitcoinpete http://t.co/x7ilwpgVmJ
13:12 bitcoinpete effin' twitter links… http://elbitcoin.org/ciudadanos-de-bitcoinlandia/
13:12 Apocalyptic nice bitcoinpete
13:13 bitcoinpete Apocalyptic: hehe i'll take it
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0730699 = 1.1691 BTC [+]
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0733 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
13:30 bitcoinpete http://marie-lynn.org/2014/04/27/trying-something-new/
13:30 ozbot Trying something new. | Marie-Lynn Richard
13:31 bitcoinpete "For a few months, I have been developing business relationships with people in Bitcoin. As with any of the communities I have joined and thrived in the past 25 years, I am paying my dues in Bitcoin by doing some volounteer work."
13:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07331 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
13:32 bitcoinpete " So far my experience of Bitcoin has been rather sad. I received my first Bitcoin paycheck a few months ago and promptly lost 30% of it due to the dip. I was then almost unable to extract it from Vault of Satoshi because they stopped sending out checks. I was able to pay for my membership to Bitcoin Alliance and Bitcoin Foundation at least. "
13:33 bitcoinpete more irlloling
13:33 pankkake :(
13:34 fluffypony why would she pay for memberships to the foundation?
13:35 bitcoinpete pankkake: ya, her situation sounds crummy. i invited her here so maybe she can do something in the future
13:36 bitcoinpete fluffypony: the poverty of altruism
13:36 fluffypony !up MarieLynn
13:36 assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
13:37 fluffypony MarieLynn: we've just been talking about you :)
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8843 @ 0.00096881 = 8.5672 BTC [-]
13:37 MarieLynn uh ho!!
13:37 MarieLynn Hi peeps!
13:37 bitcoinpete MarieLynn: howdy!
13:37 fluffypony so the "trying something new" post is the first post I've read on your blog
13:37 fluffypony which is the case for mostly everyone here, I would imagine
13:38 fluffypony can you give us a bit of background?
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07331 = 0.3666 BTC [+]
13:38 fluffypony (also I had to Google aspie polymath and file that under today's new learning:)
13:39 pankkake surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :|
13:39 pankkake http://marie-lynn.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/do-all-the-things.jpg I think this is a good summary lol
13:39 fluffypony lol
13:39 pankkake (of the blog)
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00097097 = 10.6807 BTC [+] {2}
13:40 MarieLynn I have been transparent about my life on the Internet for almost 24 years
13:40 MarieLynn Now I am being transparent abotu how hard it is to get into bitcoin and stay housed!!
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1081 @ 0.0001436 = 0.1552 BTC [-]
13:41 fluffypony lol
13:41 MarieLynn I am a lonely basement hacker. I build websites and online businesses.
13:41 pankkake do you mean earn a living with bitcoin?
13:41 MarieLynn But my entire life is online, what do you want to know specifically?
13:42 fluffypony MarieLynn: nothing specific, and thank you - that was very enlightening :)
13:42 kakobrekla ;;gettrust MarieLynn
13:42 MarieLynn I currently work for Charlie Shrem but we are done with the urgent stuff. I want to continue doing what I do but for cool bitcoin startup.
13:42 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: never
13:42 mod6 small typo: homoeless
13:43 bitcoinpete MarieLynn: you should get in the wot http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/03/27/who-what-where-when-why-web-of-trust/
13:43 fluffypony ^^^
13:43 MarieLynn I am following the links ;)
13:43 pankkake it's cheaper than the bitcoin foundation membership (free) and is actually useful :p
13:43 kakobrekla you self promoting bastards; http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation
13:43 bitcoinpete MarieLynn: and register your nick http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/03/31/biting-into-the-wot-elephant-and-irc-nicknames/
13:44 fluffypony lol
13:44 pankkake the wot allows us to to useful things like:
13:44 pankkake ;;rate -1 bitcoinpete spammer
13:44 gribble Error: 'bitcoinpete' is not a valid integer.
13:44 pankkake ;;rate bitcoinpete -1 spammer
13:44 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded.
13:44 fluffypony kakobrekla: somehow I don't think bitcoinpete is profiting off his blog ;)
13:44 pankkake ;;unrate bitcoinpete
13:44 gribble Successfully removed your rating for bitcoinpete.
13:44 bitcoinpete pankkake: well played
13:44 bitcoinpete kakobrekla: i get it!
13:44 bitcoinpete lol
13:45 kakobrekla im just busting balls mostly
13:45 bitcoinpete fluffypony: not directly, of course
13:45 fluffypony bitcoinpete: of course
13:45 MarieLynn I am not a frequent user of IRC since 1997, sry
13:46 fluffypony MarieLynn: also it seems you were spared by struggling to get verified on Cavirtex - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uc28f/tired_of_seeing_canadians_get_ripped_off_by/
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07346744 = 0.2204 BTC [+] {2}
13:46 pankkake didn't they rip off their shareholders too?
13:47 bitcoinpete pankkake: yup, they generally blow dead bears
13:47 BingoBoingo CaVirtex just be ripping off everybody
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07199213 = 1.2239 BTC [-] {4}
13:47 pankkake MarieLynn: oh so the French on the blog is because you're from Canada. Tabernacle !
13:48 MarieLynn My boyfriend has a gun license and apparently that got him validated. I only have provincial health card with photo and passport and thats not good enough.é
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07345505 = 0.2938 BTC [+] {3}
13:48 fluffypony between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French
13:48 MarieLynn I want a bitcoin ATM card else my hopes of a bitcoin life are limited.
13:48 pankkake fluffypony: your only play is to learn romanian and crush us all
13:48 fluffypony hah hah
13:48 fluffypony I'm too busy learning German so I can gossip with my mother-in-law about my wife ;)
13:49 bitcoinpete et moi aussi!
13:49 * fluffypony adds bitcoinpete to the list
13:49 pankkake le complot français
13:50 MarieLynn Thanks for the CAVirtex thread I will rad carefully. But what are the issues other than ID verification woes?!
13:50 bitcoinpete fluffypony: i did a few german lesson on duolingo, orangensaft!
13:50 MarieLynn http://circonference.ca
13:50 MarieLynn my blog about crypto, has an english podcast as well.
13:50 bitcoinpete MarieLynn: ripping off "investors" on havelock, joseph david being a stooge...
13:51 MarieLynn Thanks for the keywords bitcoinpete
13:52 pankkake well if you want to buy or sell bitcoins, you can use bitcoin-otc http://bitcoin-otc.com/ - of course, you're dealing with users directly, so you have to be careful *who* your are dealing with
13:52 pankkake http://qbc.io/ hahaha
13:52 fluffypony MarieLynn: so since I live in South Africa I've also struggled with that - we only had 1 exchange (now 2) and their volumes are terrible. I can cash out from BitStamp to my bank account, but it is irritating. Two solutions I've found: 1. If it's bigger than $1k use BitPay. Sign up, get verified, and then invoice yourself when you need money paid out to your Ca bank account. 2. For smaller amounts, use person-to-person trading either on
13:52 fluffypony Freenode in #bitcoin-otc (which also uses the WoT mentioned earlier) or on localbitcoins (you can arrange to meet people face-to-face, and lower your risk by not sending anything till you have cash-in-hand)
13:52 fluffypony oh well pankkake already mentioned 2 :)
13:53 bitcoinpete http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/05/02/bitcoin-cafe-in-limbo-at-mt-gox-building/ <<almost too stupid for words
13:53 ozbot Bitcoin Cafe in Limbo at Mt. Gox Building - Japan Real Time - WSJ
13:53 bitcoinpete "According to people at the exchange, the 28-year-old Frenchman was slow to grasp Mt. Gox’s troubles. As recently as early February, he didn’t imagine most of the virtual currency possessed by Mt. Gox and its customers were gone, they say."
13:53 bitcoinpete "Believing Mt. Gox’s troubles were manageable, Mr. Karpelès devoted much of his time to the bitcoin café"
13:54 bitcoinpete and since when does karpelès have that accent in his name?
13:54 fluffypony "It was to feature a rich menu of French quiches and coffee drinks"
13:54 pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s apparently scamming gets you on wikipedia
13:55 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete poor woman
13:55 mircea_popescu MarieLynn wait, that's you ?
13:55 mircea_popescu <pankkake> surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :| << too many, frenchie. much is for french fries :D
13:55 pankkake Mark or Karpelès aren't very French looking name
13:55 pankkake right
13:55 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: yup!
13:55 MarieLynn mircea That's me what?
13:55 fluffypony bitcoinpete: you mean his name isn't Ḱąȑṕệļễŝ? who knew.
13:56 MarieLynn LOL fluffy
13:56 mircea_popescu MarieLynn ok, so transparent about your life for 24 years ? gimme the highligts, how old are you, what do you do ?
13:56 mircea_popescu !up trixisowned
13:56 assbot Voicing trixisowned for 30 minutes.
13:57 BingoBoingo Some old Taaki Derp: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3451.msg48961#msg48961
13:57 bitcoinpete "I have 246 cos in my database of bitcoin-related businesses and I did not know about that group :) IRC is so vintage!" -MarieLynn <<246 cos, guaranteed none on mpex
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03399999 = 0.102 BTC [+]
13:57 mircea_popescu what's a cos, like cosplay ?
13:57 mircea_popescu trixisowned soo... who owns ya ?
13:57 MarieLynn I am 43, I have been developing for the Web since 1994
13:58 mircea_popescu wait.
13:58 mircea_popescu marie lynn who ?
13:58 MarieLynn Google 'Marie-Lynn Richard'
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5748 @ 0.00096945 = 5.5724 BTC [-]
13:59 bitcoinpete ;;google marie lynn richard
13:59 gribble Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist ...: <http://marie-lynn.org/>; Marie-Lynn Richard (mlrichard) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/mlrichard>; Marie-Lynn Richard - Canada | LinkedIn: <http://ca.linkedin.com/in/marielynnrichard>
13:59 mircea_popescu o hey.
13:59 pankkake "I'm thinking the program would upload the GPG private key in case you ever lost it" that? lol
13:59 mircea_popescu what's a "Nillionaire" ?
13:59 pankkake Nil-lionnaire
14:00 fluffypony pankkake: "If not found then popup dialog asking for username/password & download GPG private key"
14:00 fluffypony ah ok
14:00 fluffypony so your GPG private key, the essence of securing your identity with GPG, is protected behind a mere username and password
14:00 fluffypony sekuriteez
14:00 mircea_popescu MarieLynn aite, well, welcome.
14:01 fluffypony BingoBoingo: did he go on to create Keybase.io?
14:01 fluffypony :-P
14:01 mircea_popescu you probably want to brew a gallon of coffees and go through the logs. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com
14:02 fluffypony gin and tonic time
14:02 mike_c or brew one cup and go through http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/
14:02 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: maybe disney can make your movie happen: http://www.theonion.com/articles/disney-ceo-figures-theyve-built-up-enough-goodwill,35874/
14:02 MarieLynn ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 8DD69C90
14:02 gribble Error: '8DD69C90' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
14:03 mircea_popescu <fluffypony> between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French << nubbins.
14:03 MarieLynn Thanks guys!
14:03 bitcoinpete MarieLynn: don't mention it!
14:04 fluffypony mircea_popescu: so when are we renaming the room #bitcoin-ásséts ?
14:04 pankkake speaking of passwords, I'm slowly moving towards requiring more than a password everywhere to access my data
14:04 fluffypony or #le-bitcoin-ásséts
14:04 Apocalyptic sounds hungarian to me
14:05 Apocalyptic (french don't have á )
14:05 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Probably around 1750 or so
14:05 MarieLynn I want to join the WOT but I cannot find my long form id, it's in the friggin UBUNTU key server.
14:05 mircea_popescu fluffypony i hate accents and shit. i write romanian without too
14:06 pankkake MarieLynn: gpg -k --keyid-format=long (if you use the CLI)
14:06 mircea_popescu ^
14:06 MarieLynn ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 59748D208DD69C90
14:06 gribble Request successful for user MarieLynn, hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/59748D208DD69C90
14:06 MarieLynn hey, it didn't complain :)
14:06 mircea_popescu gpg --list-keys --fingerprint does the samer thing
14:07 fluffypony Apocalyptic: it was une petit blague
14:07 MarieLynn So are you guys here all the time? 24/7
14:07 fluffypony !up MarieLynn
14:07 assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
14:07 pankkake depends. logs are available by the way: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/
14:07 mircea_popescu petite
14:08 fluffypony gd
14:08 fluffypony petite
14:08 MarieLynn what does voicing mean? (remember no irc since 1997 here...)
14:08 mircea_popescu !down MarieLynn
14:08 mircea_popescu now you can't talk see ?
14:08 mircea_popescu !up MarieLynn
14:08 assbot Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
14:08 MarieLynn sdds
14:08 pankkake if the channel has the +m mode, only +v users can talk. otherwise, it's just vanity
14:09 MarieLynn alrighty then :)
14:09 mircea_popescu so basically MarieLynn is moiety in 20 years ? :D
14:09 MarieLynn moiety?
14:09 fluffypony "Mr. Karpelès purchased a $35,000 Backen pastry oven and a $23,000 La Marzocco coffee machine, say the people involved in the project. He also hired an independent pastry consultant and put a Tibanne employee full-time on the café project."
14:09 fluffypony lawlicious
14:09 mircea_popescu lol
14:09 kakobrekla this is a joke right?
14:10 mircea_popescu kakobrekla nah.
14:10 fluffypony kakobrekla: how else do you start a Bitcoin café without a pastry consultant?
14:10 mircea_popescu MarieLynn there's a chick here, by that name. she's in her 20s, tries to run online communities and also likes cats.
14:10 kakobrekla fluffypony you got me there.
14:11 mircea_popescu fluffypony no macarons tho. very scam, this french.
14:11 pankkake ;;rate MarieLynn 1 http://marie-lynn.org/
14:11 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
14:11 fluffypony lol
14:11 pankkake MarieLynn: you're missing the last step, decrypting the OTP, I guess
14:11 MarieLynn Well awesome for her. When I was 20 I had to compase the facebook and photocopy it and send it through the regular mail :)
14:12 fluffypony ;;ud compase
14:12 gribble Google found nothing.
14:12 * fluffypony breathes a sight of relief
14:12 pankkake compile?
14:12 fluffypony compose?
14:13 kakobrekla compass
14:13 fluffypony comp ass
14:13 mircea_popescu http://marie-lynn.org/blog/page/31/ < check it out, 1990s blog posts
14:13 ozbot Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist / Entrepreneur / Mom / Crafty Bitch
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07178681 = 1.0768 BTC [-] {4}
14:14 mircea_popescu http://marie-lynn.org/1992/03/01/temps-libres/ lol.
14:14 ozbot Magazine Temps Libres | Marie-Lynn Richard
14:14 MarieLynn These are entries from my project files :) I just imported those they are not yet correctly formatted.
14:14 mircea_popescu "you love exploring the world but you got no money. what do you do ?"
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07182659 = 0.5028 BTC [+]
14:14 mircea_popescu you'd expect "suck a mean cock", but no. "go to a museum"
14:15 MarieLynn http://marie-lynn.org/2013/09/14/behind-the-scenes-of-the-original-face-book/
14:15 ozbot Behind the Scenes of the Original Face Book | Marie-Lynn Richard
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07100033 = 0.213 BTC [-] {2}
14:15 MarieLynn Ozbot we are soulmates I guess
14:16 mircea_popescu it's a bot, it reads the title.
14:16 fluffypony or just put in your Encarta 1995 CD and browse
14:16 MarieLynn LOL
14:16 mircea_popescu "What does a girls do when guys online keep asking for her photo?"
14:16 mircea_popescu drops the s ?
14:19 MarieLynn ;;gpg eauth MarieLynn
14:19 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
14:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03349723 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}
14:20 mircea_popescu MarieLynn you have to register it with nickserv.
14:20 kakobrekla he means gribble
14:20 pankkake MarieLynn: you have to decrypt the OTP link it gave you earlier. http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/59748D208DD69C90
14:20 mircea_popescu wait, she did that no ?
14:20 mircea_popescu oh nm me.
14:21 mircea_popescu well ok, off to show the girls caligula. laters.
14:21 MarieLynn ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:a1338dc312fcbfa6cddc12fd4ccd03a73196ac87572155292907c7c8
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07343379 = 0.1469 BTC [+] {2}
14:21 gribble Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user MarieLynn with key 59748D208DD69C90
14:21 pankkake ;;rate MarieLynn 1 http://marie-lynn.org/
14:21 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded.
14:22 MarieLynn I used to compose/compile the facebook by hand and send it through snail mail
14:22 Apocalyptic MarieLynn, everytime i read your nick it reminds me of Merrill Lynch
14:22 MarieLynn Okay, I made my way through this WOT thingy !
14:22 pankkake you should sue Mark Zuckerberg
14:22 kakobrekla you are able to voice yourself now btw, by typing !up to assbot private chat, MarieLynn .
14:23 MarieLynn Thanks pankkake
14:23 MarieLynn I invented SEO too, just so we are on the same page LOL
14:23 ThickAsThieves MarieLynn your blog lacks an Altcoin logo
14:23 MarieLynn What do you mean, there are like 8 on the front page
14:24 ThickAsThieves www.therealaltocin.org
14:24 MarieLynn I am launching my own altcoin soon BTW
14:24 ThickAsThieves oops
14:24 pankkake no, Altcoin, the altcoin
14:24 pankkake :)
14:24 ThickAsThieves www.therealaltcoin.org
14:24 ThickAsThieves it's goal is to make all altcoins useless
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14:24 MarieLynn TaT, I will add it to my database. There are almost 700 coins in my friggin database.
14:24 ThickAsThieves so everyone can focus on one altcoin, Altcoin
14:25 MarieLynn Too many coins!
14:25 pankkake hence Altcoin
14:25 ThickAsThieves yeah you can get rid of the other Altcoins probly, would be much cleaner!
14:25 MarieLynn I will look at it seriously promise. It's my self-imposed job to figure out all this
14:25 ThickAsThieves you might enjoy the linked thread and other services on the home page
14:26 ThickAsThieves no pre-mine!
14:26 ThickAsThieves etc
14:26 MarieLynn Well... There are useful alt coins or coins that have a very specific niche, I believe in those but the coingen copy paste alt coins is like vomit
14:26 ThickAsThieves lol
14:26 kakobrekla you guys are worse than traveling agents
14:26 kakobrekla imma bbl.
14:27 MarieLynn Our coin is going to be so unique, I am not even sure exchanges will touch it with a ten foot pole... Will be interesting
14:27 ThickAsThieves well it's kinda hard to introduce ATC to someone
14:27 pankkake I made a coin that no exchange touched
14:27 ThickAsThieves and an investment fund no one invested in
14:27 fluffypony PankkakeKoin?
14:27 MarieLynn which one was it
14:28 pankkake Bernankoin. they didn't touch it for good reason, it simply cannot have a non-decreasing value
14:28 MarieLynn I am sure there are applications for our concept coin but so far it's just a surrealist coin R&D experiment.
14:28 fluffypony someone should fork TimeKoin
14:28 MarieLynn LOL great concept
14:28 MarieLynn What does TimeKoin do?
14:29 fluffypony MarieLynn: it's written in PHP
14:29 ThickAsThieves waste time?
14:29 fluffypony that should tell you everything you need to know
14:29 MarieLynn hahaha!
14:30 MarieLynn Do any of you want to co-found a 100% new coin concept? It's going to be super fun. Right now we need a crypto-educated developer (wallets) but the rest we have already written.
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0734422 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
14:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 76 @ 0.00599335 = 0.4555 BTC [+] {3}
14:31 ThickAsThieves 1 altcoin is already stretching the attention span
14:32 fluffypony MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer
14:32 fluffypony I'm much better at being an A to all the Ds on the forum
14:33 MarieLynn Wouldn't that put you above the average alt coin developer Fluffy? :)
14:33 pankkake eheh
14:34 fluffypony lol
14:34 pankkake I learned truly nothing by altcoining. My code even made GCC emit warnings and I didn't care
14:34 MarieLynn Is this a 24/7 thing or do you have mneetup times?
14:34 fluffypony 24/7
14:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0319999 = 0.224 BTC [+]
14:35 fluffypony but we're all on different timezones
14:35 pankkake it's 24/7, but you can get a reply hours later. it's generally as everywhere on IRC
14:35 fluffypony so it waxes and wanes
14:35 fluffypony which is why everyone checks the logs - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com
14:36 MarieLynn Tx
14:37 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.2720 is getting interesting. there are still some strongly delusional people, but some others are actually considering doing SOMETHING (next page)
14:37 ozbot [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
14:39 pankkake if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy
14:39 pankkake and by expense I mean that when the first ones sue, there will be nothing left, not that they would have gotten anything by playing nice
14:39 fluffypony ;;gettrust assbot MarieLynn
14:39 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Trust relationship from user assbot to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014
14:40 fluffypony MarieLynn: if you want to up yourself you can just message !up to assbot
14:41 fluffypony pankkake: what's this 4 year investigation thing? playing catch up
14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00096945 = 7.6587 BTC [-]
14:42 pankkake Missouri Securities Division sending the issuer a letter. not much more is known
14:43 fluffypony interesting
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13063 @ 0.00096945 = 12.6639 BTC [-]
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14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 10000 @ 0.00001261 = 0.1261 BTC [-] {2}
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15:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00097337 = 17.9587 BTC [+] {3}
15:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00096758 = 51.4753 BTC [-] {4}
15:15 MarieLynn I am back
15:15 MarieLynn Tx Fluffy
15:16 fluffypony no problemo
15:24 thestringpuller A female in #bitcoin-assets
15:24 thestringpuller i'm sure mircea_popescu will be pleased
15:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07346722 = 0.2939 BTC [+]
15:26 thestringpuller !jd MPIF
15:26 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.71643613 BTC
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07346722 = 0.8816 BTC [+]
15:29 pankkake I'd think b-a has a higher female ratio than most bitcoin channels
15:30 mircea_popescu ;;rate MarieLynn 1 she's been failing at succeeding for decades now. that takes mettle.
15:30 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user MarieLynn has been recorded.
15:31 kakobrekla pankkake most = any
15:32 kakobrekla prolly same goes for mps conf, but that is saved cause of the low attendance count overall :D
15:32 mircea_popescu <fluffypony> MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer << how da heck are you poor now.
15:32 thestringpuller LOL
15:32 fluffypony hah
15:32 thestringpuller fluffypony can't get credit at < 20%
15:32 fluffypony poor: "of a low or inferior standard or quality."
15:33 mircea_popescu <pankkake> if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy << need a company first.
15:33 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> pankkake most = any << defo. there's what, like a dozen girls here.
15:34 fluffypony thestringpuller: depends on the product, but for personal loans we get shafted here :/
15:34 MarieLynn Mircea I've been succeeding at failing rather LOL :)
15:34 pankkake I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them provocative enough
15:34 kakobrekla you mean you like to sound like a pussy
15:34 mircea_popescu ^
15:34 mircea_popescu everybody fucking types faster than i can
15:35 mircea_popescu i wonder if keeping both hands on kbd'd help
15:35 pankkake that slander
15:35 mod6 im slow typer too :/
15:35 kakobrekla i was accused of same, then told pussies have a big heart. so go with that.
15:35 mod6 haha
15:36 MarieLynn Mircea, thanks for the Tweet. I used to buy a lot of art from Romania, I kept the cute export papers in French :)
15:36 mircea_popescu pussies have a big heart because all the cocks coming in and out enlarge it in the end.
15:36 mircea_popescu MarieLynn like what art ?
15:37 mircea_popescu http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/ << here's pancake trying to rebrand being a pussy as being a gadfly.
15:37 ozbot Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake
15:37 MarieLynn Student art from an assistant professor. Most of it counts as cubist :)
15:37 pankkake what's pussy about that?
15:37 mircea_popescu nothing, really.
15:37 mircea_popescu but I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them absurd enough
15:38 pankkake :D
15:41 pankkake I thought your technique was to drown in words
15:41 pankkake "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default
15:43 MarieLynn Bacău mostly this one is my favorite piece of Romanian Art https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1pfi2vnfuhizl6/2014-05-02%2015.36.54.jpg
15:43 thestringpuller let me tell you a story about a henchman named speedy
15:43 pankkake I just want to rotate it for some reason
15:43 ThickAsThieves well you guys can blog about superiority, pankakke about inferiority, and i'll take ulteriority
15:44 pankkake who will blog about seniority?
15:44 MarieLynn Have fun rotating, there's a lot of kookey things goin on in there ;)
15:44 pankkake oh it's a horse! of course, it's romanian
15:44 ThickAsThieves isnt seniority superiority?
15:45 pankkake unless it's senility
15:45 fluffypony pankkake: did you just admit to being old?
15:45 ThickAsThieves is there an iority for meta?
15:45 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: mediocrity
15:46 ThickAsThieves was waiting for it
15:46 pankkake I wouln't be considered old, I don't really like being old, but I feel old
15:46 mike_c tsk tsk kakobrekla. http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1755239/thumbs/o-YOU-DONT-SAY-570.jpg?2
15:47 kakobrekla yeah well tell that to lampelina when she wants me to remove a spider or such.
15:47 ThickAsThieves but now you're calling him a coward
15:47 ThickAsThieves is there poster for that?
15:47 mike_c no, non-gender specific insults are fine
15:47 ThickAsThieves ah
15:48 pankkake mike_c: that whole campaign… ugh :(
15:48 kakobrekla yeah, well the stigma did not create itself
15:49 mike_c pankkake: i know. the thought process of whoever wrote those.. it's painful to think about.
15:50 MarieLynn Hey you guys, can you pause calling eact other pussies to look at another animal? :P
15:50 MarieLynn I made a t-shirt
15:50 MarieLynn https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21419725/satoshi-goose-t-shirt.jpg
15:50 ThickAsThieves lol
15:50 MarieLynn Going into pre-order pretty soon. You like?
15:50 pankkake nice
15:50 kakobrekla bitcoin shitting duck?
15:51 ThickAsThieves goose
15:51 ThickAsThieves yeah it's neat
15:51 MarieLynn It's a golden egg goose :)
15:51 kakobrekla golden turdmeister is what i see.
15:51 MarieLynn It goes with a feature article I am writing about a brain wallet we are trying to decrypt right now
15:52 kakobrekla maybe im simpleminded
15:52 mike_c no, that goose is definitely shitting bitcoin.
15:53 MarieLynn well, yes, technically, these birds have only one hole so they are either turds or eggs LOL
15:53 pankkake this is actually quite fascinating
15:53 mike_c but geese don't lay eggs standing up
15:53 MarieLynn Kinda goes with the story..
15:54 kakobrekla the story of golden turd
15:54 ThickAsThieves it's a superior goose
15:54 kakobrekla bitcoin dev replies: "yeah but its still in beta you know!"
15:54 ThickAsThieves it lays upright
15:55 MarieLynn do you guys think bitcoins are golden eggs or turds?
15:55 ThickAsThieves golden turds
15:55 thestringpuller ;;google american dad golden poop
15:55 gribble The Golden Turd - American Dad! Wiki - Roger, Steve, Stan: <http://americandad.wikia.com/wiki/The_Golden_Turd>; The Gold Turd Returns - American Dad - Adult Swim Video: <http://video.adultswim.com/american-dad/the-gold-turd-returns.html>; Roger (American Dad!) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_(American_Dad!)>
15:55 MarieLynn For me it's hard to know, there is always a fricking bitcoin dip right after I get paid!!
15:55 pankkake https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92uf_carr%C3%A9
15:56 thestringpuller you're doing it wrong
15:56 ThickAsThieves i think bitcoins are just millions of satoshis in disguise
15:56 kakobrekla MarieLynn stop getting paid already.
15:56 mike_c you get paid in bitcoin? nice.
15:56 pankkake well, don't get paid in bitcoin if you don't intend to hold, really
15:58 MarieLynn I need the money dude I mistakenly thought that going into bitcoin would get me bitcoins... like more than 1 LOL
15:59 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/3PT20FM/plain/)
15:59 kakobrekla !b 1
15:59 kakobrekla ty
15:59 pankkake perhaps getting a good paying fiat job should be your immediate priority then
15:59 MarieLynn I am still working fiat contracts.
16:00 MarieLynn Difference is people will come to me without effort for fiat jobs but I have to wheel and deal like crazy for bitcoins with 22 year olds... it's not the same market.
16:01 mike_c well, average in here is definitely > 22.
16:01 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg6513182#msg6513182
16:01 ozbot [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
16:01 kakobrekla wonder why he hid his name ?
16:01 pankkake yes, well; keep the fiat jobs, buy coins / create the right bitcoin market for you
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.07346721 = 3.306 BTC [+] {4}
16:01 pankkake average on bitcointalk is probably <22 :(
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.07383692 = 1.2552 BTC [+] {3}
16:02 pankkake kakobrekla: Garett McBurger?
16:02 bitcoinpete http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/exclusive-pfizer-insider-warns-that-takeover-of-astrazeneca-could-be-devastating-9318884.html << £63 billion. heavy
16:03 kakobrekla and im John Travolta ?
16:03 Apocalyptic kako, are you saying you're not ?
16:03 MarieLynn I have decades of project and staff management experience so I do not expect to work in bitcoin as a developer. Bitcoin needs leadership and guidance for its 22 year old employees!! I have lots of experience developing talent 19-25
16:03 kakobrekla no no nevermind i said that Apocalyptic .
16:04 kakobrekla well MarieLynn get them to write spec
16:06 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/MikeyMehedin/status/462309907371655168/photo/1 <<dogecoin nascar. my eyes
16:06 ozbot Twitter / MikeyMehedin: @Josh_Wise @dogecoin @reddit ...
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07214738 = 1.5872 BTC [-] {4}
16:07 kakobrekla isnt nascar like the idiot central
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16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07202477 = 2.881 BTC [-] {6}
16:08 bitcoinpete kakobrekla: a very specific subset of them, southern amuricans
16:08 pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_and_Stupid
16:08 ozbot Poor and Stupid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]
16:08 bitcoinpete more interested in drive-thrus, segregation, and surviving hurricanes than crypto
16:09 kakobrekla i guess i should watch that.
16:09 kakobrekla sp episode, not nascar racing.
16:11 mike_c hmm.. it's always scary when you build something semi-complicated and it just works the first time.
16:11 mike_c must be missing something..
16:11 kakobrekla give it some time to break.
16:11 pankkake it's never working the first time. you just haven't found where it goes wrong
16:12 asciilifeform mike_c: obligatory naggumism:
16:12 asciilifeform http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum.no.html
16:12 ozbot Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive
16:13 mike_c can naggum say anything in less than 1000 words?
16:13 asciilifeform mike_c: well, eventually he got down to 0 words.
16:13 asciilifeform (cheated. kicked usenet habit, a few yrs. before he died)
16:16 mike_c i agree with naggum in a lot of ways, but i ended up in python instead of lisp. i was just writing a C module for python and it was a brutal reminder of much time and energy is spent making sure i didn't miss dereferencing something in some random error case that would cause a leak, etc.
16:24 kakobrekla !up tris
16:24 assbot Voicing tris for 30 minutes.
16:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00097005 = 22.6992 BTC [+]
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16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07399031 = 0.6659 BTC [+] {3}
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.139999 BTC [-]
16:39 bitcoinpete "Consider how the Catholic Church might have mitigated some of the deep pain caused by its abusive priests had it acted with the kind of boldness shown by N.B.A. Commissioner Adam Silver. Instead, it chose cover-ups, denial and blame shifting — the usual default modes for institutions trying to protect themselves." << default of institutions that last
16:39 bitcoinpete http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/opinion/egan-sports-the-most-progressive-force-in-america.html
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1040 @ 0.00014647 = 0.1523 BTC [-] {3}
16:41 MarieLynn I am really glad unpaid athletes are getting national attention for their cause. They get tuition but no time to study... dumb...
16:42 asciilifeform MarieLynn: no time to study << at american unis, there are special fake classes for athletes. with no attendance checks, homework, or exams...
16:42 MarieLynn I know...
16:42 asciilifeform their existence in at least one is a proven fact
16:43 thestringpuller MarieLynn: decades of experience?
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399993 = 0.222 BTC [-] {2}
16:43 thestringpuller you been working since you were 10 or something?
16:44 pankkake is there anything to learn in college anyway? :)
16:44 asciilifeform i learned some maths
16:44 asciilifeform can't speak for others
16:45 asciilifeform there are also useful things that one can pick up, like the art of working with your head for a week straight without sleep.
16:45 asciilifeform but it is not strictly necessary to attend college to learn this.
16:46 MarieLynn 20 years in what I do now
16:46 pankkake higher education has been a interesting experience, but I could have skipped (and did) most classes
16:47 MarieLynn I started in Web in 1994, I was only 23.
16:48 asciilifeform what in web ?
16:48 MarieLynn Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :)
16:48 MarieLynn I do everything in Web. I have held all the jobs!
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00097404 = 24.2536 BTC [+] {3}
16:50 MarieLynn I've dropped out of college TWICE!!
16:50 MarieLynn But I was in all the committees at college, no time for class.
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03149007 = 0.3149 BTC [-]
16:51 bitcoinpete college is best used as a dating service
16:51 bitcoinpete nothing else creates collisions like college does
16:51 pankkake it made a way more social person, for sure. that and alcohol
16:52 pankkake +me
16:52 pankkake MarieLynn: you really do ALL THE THINGS!!
16:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00097017 = 4.8509 BTC [-]
16:56 bitcoinpete "You may think that walled-garden access to Facebook or Google is inferior to neutral Internet access—and you’d be right. But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing"
16:56 bitcoinpete http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/30/how-net-neutrality-hurts-the-poor/
16:57 bounce I'm not sure that's a valid premise
16:57 BingoBoingo %book
16:57 atcbot 33k@225 23k@224 6k@223 | 2k@170 90k@156 10k@155
16:57 bitcoinpete "Net neutrality, in other words, would not only keep the poorest offline, it would keep investment in poor-country telecom infrastructure down for longer."
16:57 bitcoinpete bounce: it's nonsense
16:58 bitcoinpete helping the poor with us gov corps isn't helping them at all
17:00 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208
17:00 ozbot Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future”
17:00 asciilifeform ^ where we're going
17:00 asciilifeform after the fud-artists are done
17:00 Duffer1 neutralistas lmao
17:05 asciilifeform that turd includes at least one outright lie
17:05 asciilifeform amazon's 3g gadgets access the standard net, for no extra cost
17:05 asciilifeform just, very slowly.
17:07 asciilifeform the way i understand it, aol, compuserve, et al. died a very deserved market death
17:07 asciilifeform but now the 'walled garden' idiots want to replay the match
17:07 asciilifeform with captive audiences
17:08 asciilifeform because these are the only kind where the shit might fly
17:09 asciilifeform living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet
17:11 asciilifeform arsenet is coming, because the average luser doesn't really insist on being able to open an arbitrary tcp connection from wherever to wherever
17:11 asciilifeform so long as arsebook, skype, etc. work
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0314991 = 0.126 BTC [-]
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.03349229 = 0.134 BTC [-] {2}
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-]
17:13 BingoBoingo If the choice were between arsenet and Dial-up, I'd probably choose dial up
17:13 asciilifeform hell, 300 baud
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00019191 = 0.1917 BTC [-]
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.03300008 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2}
17:14 asciilifeform paradoxically, a return of the era when you must beg/borrow/steal genuine net access from employers, universities - could actually end 'eternal september.'
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0325099 = 0.2601 BTC [-]
17:15 asciilifeform and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave.
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+]
17:15 asciilifeform it won't be as easy as the first time, though
17:15 asciilifeform over here, many houses had their land line copper (illegally) torn out
17:15 asciilifeform by the fiber folks
17:16 BingoBoingo I once produced a version of a web site I ran as a gopher site, in 2011, Library school project
17:16 MarieLynn I miss FidoNet :)
17:16 MarieLynn Went to a FidoNet Con last year :)
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.00659993 = 0.132 BTC [+] {3}
17:16 asciilifeform in usa, the copper lines are regulated under the terms of the at&t divestiture
17:16 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/ZtPkUV4.jpg
17:17 asciilifeform and the local carries have destroyed as many of them as they could get away with
17:18 BingoBoingo http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/02/2015227/nasty-security-flaw-in-oauth-openid
17:18 ozbot Nasty Security Flaw In OAuth, OpenID - Slashdot
17:18 pankkake another one?!
17:18 asciilifeform lol
17:19 asciilifeform for example - moving into new house, i discovered a dangling stub where the old 'bell atlantic' copper ought to be.
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17:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2629 @ 0.00014366 = 0.3777 BTC [-] {5}
17:19 asciilifeform gone from the house, and from the pole.
17:20 asciilifeform nobody gives a damn, at present, because we all love fiber
17:20 asciilifeform but it could convert to ArseNet overnight.
17:21 BingoBoingo Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime.
17:21 BingoBoingo 2 meter band could make for some nice mesh networks
17:22 asciilifeform copper is expensive - not merely the metal, but maintenance - keeping water out of the cable ducts, etc. the telcos would hurry to be rid of it even the removal did not speed the arrival of arsenet.
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17:22 pankkake and keeping the romanians from stealing it
17:22 asciilifeform in a traditional telco plant, there are giant air dryers, blowing into ducts, to keep positive pressure
17:23 asciilifeform my understanding is that these, at least where i live, and in a number of other places, have given out - and never replaced
17:23 asciilifeform instead, there are tanks of co2 chained to poles here and there
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17:23 asciilifeform the one on my street emptied out a few years ago
17:23 asciilifeform never once replaced.
17:24 asciilifeform eventually, the one or two remaining copper subscribers will complain. and perhaps it will be re-filled. or not.
17:26 BingoBoingo All of the good technologies come with expiration dates.
17:26 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime << eventually, u.s. folks who want genuine net will need to commit this - or some other - crime.
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17:27 asciilifeform and, given that 'one may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb,' why stick to only 2m.
17:28 asciilifeform plenty of quiet spectrum, there for the taking, esp. if one only needs a few km of range.
17:28 BingoBoingo Very good point. I supposed 2m because it is just so common.
17:29 ThickAsThieves lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places
17:29 asciilifeform the correct way to do 'pirate radio' net is - frequency hopping 'spread spectrum.' meet the other local node people in person, to agree on a key.
17:29 BingoBoingo Fuck them. The decimal can move two spaces to the left
17:30 ThickAsThieves how do they not see that an arbitrary change will only cause confusion and likely fail at being adopted
17:30 asciilifeform folks who like to eat shit - can eat it. others will continue to eat food.
17:31 joecool pankkake: you're thinking georgians, they'll cut into anything remotely resembling a wire, source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access
17:31 asciilifeform in usa, desperados are attaching trucks to hv cables and driving off.
17:32 pankkake yeah, I know that story. copper stealing is a worldwide plague done by various people
17:32 BingoBoingo Yeah. Optic net is also a possibility. Fiber without the fiber.
17:32 pankkake and some don't even know how to spot copper and cut the fiber
17:32 asciilifeform in a functioning empire, the penalty would be - sizzling in the electric chair. right there, in the bed of a specially-built police truck.
17:32 asciilifeform but see mp's story of the last emperor.
17:33 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: optical line-of-sight would work well in places other than usa - ones where people still live in cities
17:34 joecool lasernet
17:34 asciilifeform (can easily think of creative penalties for buyers of stolen copper. say, hanging with same stolen cable. on a hv mast.)
17:35 joecool my state had a unique copper problem
17:35 asciilifeform sorta like how, in old scotland, they had a contraption very similar to the later guillotine - 'scottish gibbet' - where a cattle or horse thief would find the animal he stole attached to a rope, which pulls out the peg, blade falls.
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17:35 joecool we kept getting floods so people threw out things like refrigerators (with coils)
17:36 joecool the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit
17:37 asciilifeform hard to think of how else the crown could distinguish between legit and thieving metal recyclers.
17:37 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: the adoption argument is that it seems "more like a currency" because we're used to 2 decimal places, and most account software can't work with more than 2 anyway
17:38 asciilifeform refrigerators, unlike cars, don't come with legal titles
17:38 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Have the accounting software work satoshis then.
17:38 asciilifeform and once it is melted down - metal is metal
17:38 fluffypony BingoBoingo: well, yes, that's exactly what's been suggested
17:38 fluffypony and ignored
17:38 joecool fluffypony: well could adopt the tonal system and TBC like Luke-Jr wanted :P
17:39 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: True. Picking the radio bands over US style distances presents challenges though.
17:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: real time tcp/ip, over 1000s of km, for millions of people - is a luxury.
17:40 asciilifeform a usenet-style system, where messages might resort to travelling in a truck full of disk, seems inevitable in a scenario like this.
17:40 bounce http://ronja.twibright.com/
17:40 ozbot Home
17:40 BingoBoingo Of course. Stationwagon net is always an option.
17:40 joecool 1000's of km? gonna need relays or a signal that can bounce
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07254245 = 0.9431 BTC [-] {3}
17:41 * bounce sets joecool on fire
17:41 asciilifeform anything that transmits over 1000km is a fat target.
17:41 bounce usenet? can start with resurrecting uucp (or fido)
17:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0725104 = 0.7976 BTC [-] {3}
17:42 asciilifeform bounce: resurrecting fido << see the point earlier about the destroyed 'bell' copper in usa
17:42 asciilifeform i, for one, have no copper phone line, and know no one who still does
17:42 bounce there's some interesting digital modulations about. if I ever get around to a HAM licence I'd probably still dump crypted data on the wire along with a readable call sign
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07237324 = 0.8685 BTC [-] {5}
17:43 bounce who says fido depends on copper?
17:43 asciilifeform bounce: the other hams will eagerly turn you in
17:43 joecool lol yeah cannot do that :P
17:43 bounce who's to know? I'm doing experiments with me mate
17:43 bounce "yeah new modulation guv"
17:43 asciilifeform bounce: it relies on some reasonably general-purpose channel, of whatever bandwidth
17:43 BingoBoingo High Bandwidth http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-2006-Dodge-Magnum-SRT8-t30836#listing=84198839
17:44 BingoBoingo bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch
17:44 bounce one option might be to get a boating radio licence. they're already throwing packet over those frequencies for email-to-boat
17:44 asciilifeform in usa at least, 'hams' know that they live at the pleasure of the crown, various folks are always hungry for their spectrum pie
17:44 asciilifeform so they eagerly rat out violators.
17:44 artifexd ThickAsThieves: Had it been done at the beginning 1mn satoshis to the bitcoin would have made more sense. That would have made 2.1 billion bitcoin in total and maybe that number would have made people register that 21 million was not an arbitrary number and making coins with more is just a fucking headache.
17:45 bounce well, then forget about the licence and go entirely pirate with a spread-spectrum frequency-hopping whatever construct.
17:45 asciilifeform bounce: suggested earlier. and, of course, by many other people, in the past.
17:45 bounce or stick to linking up wifi nodes with dish antennae. that goes a while too.
17:46 bounce the thing there is that you need ready access to hardware, or at least schematics simple enough for the hobbyist to cobble together.
17:46 bounce doesn't have to be very efficient. ttl everything will do as long as it works.
17:46 asciilifeform the point i wanted to make was that anything other than a very broad, military-style spread spectrum setup, with hop keys exchanged in person, is simply a beacon for the gasenwagen.
17:47 joecool 20-30mi with 5GHZ line of sight is feasible, i used to live on a mountain and experimented with some pretty long links
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47277687 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {5}
17:47 joecool there's a site you can use to check what mountains are in the way
17:47 asciilifeform good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia.
17:47 fluffypony joecool: lol
17:47 joecool asciilifeform: need height
17:47 fluffypony joecool: we should suggest TonalDogecoin
17:47 bounce put up a mast?
17:48 fluffypony see how it goes down
17:48 joecool again, a mountain helps a lot
17:48 asciilifeform put up a mast << might as well hoist a black flag on same mast.
17:48 joecool i had a 30mi clear shot from my back deck of old house to an observation deck @ a state park
17:48 mircea_popescu <pankkake> "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default << o lies and slander. my stories kick ass
17:49 jborkl www.bcoinnews.com < see how well bitcoin investigations go
17:50 asciilifeform i dare to invoke the 'parachute theorem,' and say that the time to build comm infrastructure out of the real (or imagined) control of the crown is now, and not when it becomes a dire necessity.
17:51 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> yeah, well the stigma did not create itself << stigma means, of course, a stain.
17:51 bounce so get cracking.
17:51 asciilifeform and to think that it is purely an 'american problem' - is a mistake.
17:51 bounce ;;google mesh potato
17:51 gribble Village Telco » Mesh Potato: <http://villagetelco.org/mesh-potato/>; Village Telco » Mesh Potato: <http://villagetelco.org/category/village-telco/mesh-potato/>; Mesh Potatoes - Village Telco Store Village Telco Store: <https://store.villagetelco.com/mesh-potatoes.html>
17:51 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> maybe im simpleminded << buzz off. next you're going to claim you're psychopath too ?!
17:52 asciilifeform if you're 'meshing' with consumer hardware, on fixed, documented frequencies - you're a target.
17:52 bounce bunch of those would be a convenient start. though I really would prefer a nice high gain omni on top.
17:52 asciilifeform if you're pumping out kWatts of whatever, wherever - you're a target.
17:52 asciilifeform etc
17:53 bounce it's a proven design. now move the radio to some neverland(, and see which military outfit shows up)
17:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you are mistaken in the following sense : i ruled, undisturbed, undisturbable, before the internet was invented.
17:53 mircea_popescu should a government - any government - take things back to that level, it'd be to their detriment, not to mine.
17:53 mircea_popescu the jury's still out on the topic of whether they can win 2014. the jury however is not out on whether they can win 1994.
17:53 mircea_popescu that's soundly decided.
17:54 BingoBoingo bounce you know a number of missile targeting systems seek RF emissions.
17:54 asciilifeform seems like we're in for an eternal rematch of 1994
17:54 bounce once "TSHTF" enforcement agencies will become haphazard in their actions, so nicely spread out stashes would help a lot
17:54 mircea_popescu i couldn't be better served.
17:54 asciilifeform how many of us expected the key escrow crap to slip right in the second time?
17:55 mircea_popescu what second time ?
17:55 asciilifeform let's say '04, to make it nice & round.
17:55 * bounce thinks the discussion is not constructive. anybody recall why the internet is structured like it is? because it can withstand damage and route around it.
17:55 asciilifeform bounce: you're thinking of arpanet
17:55 joecool asciilifeform: why not use existing infrastructure, figure out how to inject a signal into powerline
17:55 mircea_popescu bounce used to. meanwhile shit like apple happened.
17:55 asciilifeform joecool: ever tried this personally?
17:56 asciilifeform goes great, until first transformer.
17:56 bounce the goal isn't to cook up an invulnerable system. the goal is to cook up a resilient system. ten different systems working together would be even better.
17:56 asciilifeform bounce: original design was to resist nukes, rather than a million squads of dutiful monkeys in vans
17:57 joecool asciilifeform: yeah i knew that much, but could still use HV lines to go a distance, no?
17:57 asciilifeform it would be interesting to study the design of 'Gladio' radio sets - made for stay-behind partizans in nato europe
17:57 bounce shit, do fido or uucp over long-range bluetooth for all I care. with nodes hid in stones.
17:57 asciilifeform some of these have popped up on surplus market.
17:57 mircea_popescu lol kako, bbbb still derping on ?
17:57 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q15X25
17:57 ozbot Q15X25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:58 kakobrekla mircea_popescu , proudly.
17:58 joecool asciilifeform: the idea would be to mesh a town, and use HV lines to link to other towns
17:58 joecool (in theory)
17:58 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/
17:58 ozbot These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
17:58 mircea_popescu related.
17:58 kakobrekla thats not him
17:58 mircea_popescu surf capital ? o yes it is.
17:59 asciilifeform joecool: HV lines to link to other towns << works, until the king's men 'helpfully' install filters
17:59 mircea_popescu "The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there
17:59 mircea_popescu is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region."
17:59 asciilifeform 'against transients caused by Klimate Change'
17:59 mircea_popescu them.
17:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do these "king's men" communicate ?
17:59 mircea_popescu how does the king prevent them from working for me ?
18:00 asciilifeform lol - that's step 2 of the game.
18:00 mircea_popescu you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications.
18:00 bounce what'd be the most widely available stuff that does ssb? I'd expect 27mc. which, since there's lots of crap going on there anyway, wouldn't be a bad band to use
18:00 asciilifeform would be nice to see the transition to step 2 sooner, rather than later
18:00 mircea_popescu such a thing is nonsensical, much like any scenario breaing thermodynamicsa.
18:00 mircea_popescu but the transition happens in its own time for its own reasons, you see.
18:01 mircea_popescu that's why it's cheap and effectual : we don't seduce women, we just deign to notice the ones that've seduced themselves already.
18:01 jborkl you cant tell me they really referenced BTCjam on credit ratings?
18:01 mircea_popescu jborkl i can and i do.
18:01 kakobrekla ok so mircea_popescu , dr foreskin : http://mulhauser.net and bbbb idiots (2) https://sites.google.com/site/surfcapitalmgmt/asset-management
18:01 kakobrekla different thing.
18:01 mircea_popescu kakobrekla the article says x is worse than y. thus it's about x, not y.
18:01 jborkl well, I guess people really refernced spongebobs bestie too
18:01 jborkl sp
18:02 jborkl Maybe Patricks Foreskin investment total return fund
18:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications << point! the buggers are spotty even at using rsa. how do you say 'funkspiel' in english?
18:03 kakobrekla ok i have no argument about that.
18:03 mircea_popescu <mike_c> must be missing something.. << or you've just been touched by the gods for once.
18:03 mircea_popescu !up tris
18:03 assbot Voicing tris for 30 minutes.
18:03 asciilifeform funkspiel. радиоигра. english == ???
18:04 asciilifeform ;;google funkspiel
18:04 gribble Funkspiel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funkspiel>; Funkspiel Zwickau [NONG: Funkspiel] TeamSpeak - LIVE view ...: <http://www.tsviewer.com/index.php?page=ts_viewer&ID=987701>; Werbevideo vom Funkspiel-Flughafen-München - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVAE7I6CkL0>
18:04 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/opinion/egan-sports-the-most-progressive-force-in-america.html <<< lmao they say that as if it were somehow a good thing. lulzy shit.
18:04 BingoBoingo http://www.cryptomuseum.com/spy/gladio/
18:04 ozbot Gladio
18:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: yes - them.
18:04 mircea_popescu i think you must wreite it like GLADIO
18:05 mircea_popescu i noticed that is how you must write everything about these things
18:05 BingoBoingo Interesting hardware ascii
18:06 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you study the other exhibits on that site, you will learn that even 1950s soviet 'spy radio' designers understood that one must send very rare messages, in the shortest possible bursts
18:06 mircea_popescu <MarieLynn> Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :) << now how do you figure that being a tour guide and a nanny transitions to providing leadership services for the world's most important project ?
18:06 bounce http://www.cryptomuseum.com/spy/gladio/
18:06 ozbot Gladio
18:06 asciilifeform russian sets of that period came with hole punchers (similar to the ubiquitous hand-cranked office label printers)
18:06 kakobrekla i already gave her instructions
18:06 jborkl You get to listen to a bunch of titybabies cry all day?
18:06 asciilifeform punch holes in ordinary 35mm film, feed into machine later
18:07 asciilifeform this was mainly from a shortage of master 'morsemen'
18:07 mircea_popescu <bitcoinpete> But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing" << omfg who the shit cares about the poor, what sort of braindamaged argument is this.
18:07 mircea_popescu eat the motherfucking poor.
18:07 bounce hah, double post. n'mind then.
18:08 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeah im like behind
18:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they include 'for the good of the poor' in any official proclamation now. as in 'the good of the proletariat' and whatnot.
18:08 bounce it'd be useful to have a bursting service on your radio
18:08 mircea_popescu and i can't catch up because you're all into explody talkmode
18:08 kakobrekla wait lemme +m
18:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty much exactly. which is why a lot more "fuck the poor, they're less than dirt" needs to be stated explicitly.
18:08 mircea_popescu otherwise the general fucktarded populace may end up confused, cause they're simple signal processors.
18:09 asciilifeform lol
18:09 mircea_popescu they keep hearing "coca cola is a drink" they end up thinking it's a drink.
18:09 mircea_popescu retarded shit like that.
18:09 asciilifeform eat recycled food!
18:09 asciilifeform it's good for the environment - and ok fer you!
18:10 bounce soylent brown
18:10 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet << i think they're running way behind schedule.
18:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. << where do you think you're now ?
18:12 mircea_popescu fluffypony lmao "chinese rules". i dunno dood, afaik the chinese are the most druggy whoring of the whole lot.
18:12 fluffypony lol
18:13 bounce that oauth hole isn't really fixable, is it?
18:14 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places << enemies of the people.
18:15 fluffypony bounce: not without whitelists
18:15 mircea_popescu bounce indeed.
18:15 mircea_popescu !up SuchWow
18:15 assbot Voicing SuchWow for 30 minutes.
18:15 mircea_popescu fucking broken by design "security"
18:15 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/462354080372097024
18:15 ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/VLyAis0h7B I've ...
18:16 bounce superfluous apostrophe is superfluous
18:16 mircea_popescu <joecool> the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit << fucking outrageous. selling licenses on MY trash ? heh.
18:17 fluffypony SuchWow: unusual seeing you here
18:17 joecool mircea_popescu: yeah, the same logic applies on recyclables
18:18 SuchWow Thanks, first I've heard of the chan :)
18:18 mircea_popescu <fluffypony> and ignored << just because some inconsequential idiots a la bitpay & the forum are herping away dun mean anything's been ignored. you can't ignore the judge, or the bullet.
18:18 Namworld Move decimals to two places? You mean as in making 1 BTC = 100 satoshi?
18:19 fluffypony Namworld: yes
18:19 fluffypony how are they feeding values in to an accounting system anyway?
18:19 fluffypony by hand?
18:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch << only because no real political pressure has been applied to them yet, because nobody gave a shit. normally the sewer rats are also a snitchy, territorial bunch. nevertheless, nobody in the lower east side would talk to a cop, pre ww2.
18:20 fluffypony coz if it's programmatic they should be working in satoshis anyway
18:20 mircea_popescu they prolly don't know about this, or anything else.
18:20 Namworld What? That's retarded. We'd end up with 2000 BTC to the dollar and a shitload of BTC. Plus that wouldn't change anything at all, actually.
18:20 mircea_popescu heck, they probably have bitcoin defined as a real.
18:20 mircea_popescu Namworld they imagine it'd make more noobs buy, and so make their worthless holdings worth somerthing.
18:21 mircea_popescu because they imagine bitcoin is a consumer affair
18:21 mircea_popescu because they're braindamaged.
18:21 mircea_popescu fluffypony who's he ?
18:21 Namworld Plus you know a few places would scam people "We only owe you X BTC" and the generic moron would go "I knew it, BTC under 1 dollar by the end of the year."
18:21 fluffypony who's he who?
18:21 Namworld Plus much derping around.
18:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia. << why ?
18:23 mircea_popescu fluffypony the SuchWow guy.
18:23 fluffypony mircea_popescu: oh, he's an op in #dogecoin
18:23 SuchWow I hang out in a large number of bitcoin and dogecoin related chans
18:24 mircea_popescu Namworld i can see that, yeah. there's nothing like "confusion" when the "confused" stands to make a buck from it.
18:24 mircea_popescu ic.
18:24 SuchWow Looking through your websites now, very impressive info.
18:25 mircea_popescu http://www.bcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wtf1.gif this jborkl stuff is pretty good lol
18:25 Namworld Go in suburbia, stand any random spot, look around. Line of sight to plenty of solid points will be found. Get creative. (Are we still talking about creating a comm mesh?)
18:26 mircea_popescu one of the many threads but yes.
18:26 mircea_popescu you can have flying objects in suburbia, you can definitely have stuff hid inside tree tops, etc.
18:26 mircea_popescu so trendon shavers managed to funel ~70k through his paypal account. to which paypal gave no trouble at all. why aren't they co-defendants in his case ?
18:27 mircea_popescu because his lawyer is fucktarded that's why.
18:27 mircea_popescu 11k for gas and groceries. and then they claim no inflation eh ?
18:28 mircea_popescu "proceeds on btc sold : 600k. trading losses, 150k. net 450k" heh.
18:29 mircea_popescu he's almost as bad as the forum average, 25% loss over a year.
18:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: treetops, flying machines parked on office roofs, charging solar, etc. - sure. line of sight to a friendly window, city-style - not likely.
18:30 mircea_popescu well that all depends, i guess. what's to keep you from cutting a square foot window in the tree ?
18:30 mircea_popescu put a glass panel in your fence ?
18:30 asciilifeform what's to keep the stoolies from using their eyes?
18:30 mircea_popescu how many stoolies, how many eyes and who;'s going to derp on your land ?
18:31 mircea_popescu maybe they get shot.
18:31 mircea_popescu accidents happen, and stoolies are in all times and places the first to also have problems.
18:31 asciilifeform since we're at the 'pack parachute' stage, nobody's shooting stoolies around here yet.
18:31 mircea_popescu that's the only reason, too.
18:31 mircea_popescu as i said a few times before, the other party can move it up to getting shot any time it feels ready
18:32 mircea_popescu talk to its fambly, say goodbies, come to the field.
18:32 bounce drones with mesh potatoes and solar panels for autonomy. some proximity sensors and such. one roof gets too hot for comfort, move to the next.
18:32 bounce what's the state of thin foil solar panels anyway?
18:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform or to put it in plainer terms : it is very true one wants to invent parachute before, rather than after being thrown from the plane.
18:32 mircea_popescu this point applies to the government.
18:33 mircea_popescu i am quite curious to hear what their parachute design will look like.
18:33 asciilifeform everybody's seen the photos of fleets of gasenwagen, brand new
18:33 mircea_popescu stoolies being what they are, i'll prolly hear about it before they actually accept it.
18:33 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/georg-ritter-von-flondor-and-what-his-unhappy-life-can-teach-us/
18:33 ozbot Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope
18:33 mircea_popescu time to rehash the sad story of von flondor.
18:36 kakobrekla this is what tat was talking about ?
18:36 kakobrekla http://newsbtc.com/2014/05/02/bitpay-wants-display-bitcoin-prices-bits/
18:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla hey, why isn't enky ever say anything ?
18:42 fluffypony kakobrekla: yes
18:42 MarieLynn <+mircea_popescu> what is the world's most important project ? (re: 18:06)
18:43 kakobrekla i dunno, he speaks just not much here.
18:43 kakobrekla OMG how dare you MarieLynn !
18:43 mircea_popescu MarieLynn http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/
18:44 mircea_popescu the great days when diff was like... 300mn.
18:44 mircea_popescu .d
18:44 ozbot 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1539 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.1417% in 9d 14h 27m 34s
18:45 thestringpuller 4.2.1
18:45 mircea_popescu back when benkay was liek... correcting my math. how's this benkay baby! six months fixed my broked math.
18:45 thestringpuller ;;calc 2*3
18:45 gribble 6
18:46 thestringpuller lol
18:46 asciilifeform this decimal point crap is a mega-lol. they can't inflate, so... let's move decimal. like in a banana republic, or '90s russia.
18:46 mircea_popescu exactly.
18:46 asciilifeform cargo cult, too. fat lot of good it will do for the idiots.
18:47 mircea_popescu there's more to it asciilifeform. suppose you visit this university, which wants you to take it seriously. in it, the head of nuclear physics is hard at work making an inventory of... his bunions.
18:47 mircea_popescu what's that indicate to you ? i mean sure, great men can be eccentric.
18:47 mircea_popescu nevertheless...
18:47 asciilifeform u.s. academia, in once sentence.
18:47 MarieLynn interesting post :)
18:47 mircea_popescu maybe the bunion accountant has no business in physics, nuclear or otherwise, and the thing ain't an university in any sense.
18:48 mircea_popescu MarieLynn so, that. the one thing that does more than everything else all humans ever did in the entire history of life on earth.
18:48 MarieLynn My friend is looking for a Rails dev @ 120-180K for his kinky site... I wish I was a Rails dev all of a sudden :)
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18:48 mircea_popescu for all your poetry and wit couldn't buy you half a hash.
18:48 mircea_popescu davout was a rails dev if memory serves :D
18:48 pankkake it's easy to be a Ruby dev. you just need a macbook and a fedora
18:49 asciilifeform MarieLynn: dev @ 120-180K << lemme guess, california.
18:49 MarieLynn <+mircea_popescu> I will quote you on this when I talk about bitcoin
18:49 mircea_popescu ;;later tell cgcardona http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656509
18:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:49 MarieLynn Nope The position is anywhere.
18:50 MarieLynn Nice opportunity to arbitrage your skills when you live in a super cheap place!
18:50 asciilifeform pankkake: you just need a macbook and a fedora << and a leaden stomach
18:50 mircea_popescu uh. what do you think arbitrage means ?
18:51 asciilifeform note that, e.g. oil rig men get $200K+
18:51 pankkake why? because of starbucks coffees?
18:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not for doing stuff on reddit tho
18:51 MarieLynn You keep living in a cheap place a reap the benefits of working in a place where they pay more for talent.
18:51 mircea_popescu MarieLynn mno. that's getting a good remote job.
18:52 pankkake maybe I should have left for an oil rig
18:52 asciilifeform dealing in redditronics ought to earn a hazard pay, like soviet workers in the far north
18:52 asciilifeform in fact... it sorta does.
18:52 mircea_popescu pankkake i hear you gotta be a fag to man an oil rig.
18:53 pankkake so it's like an union thing
18:53 asciilifeform gotta be a fag to man an oil rig << it's not a nuke sub. they rotate the crew occasionally.
18:53 MarieLynn My other friend in Saskatchewan says construction workers are impossible to find because the mines pay too high :)
18:54 asciilifeform i'm still at a loss as to why gigantic server farms aren't built, in, say, alaska
18:54 fluffypony hah hah
18:54 fluffypony "Tradefortress has no room to bash anyone else besides Karpeles, Pirate, or maybe Mr. NEOBEE, Danny Brewster. Everyone else, small-time scammers included, would be better company at this point."
18:54 asciilifeform or the very same miners.
18:55 MarieLynn My boyfriend beats people up for a living but there are few people in Montreal who are tough enough for his classes.
18:55 asciilifeform 'yeah we're short on cabling, the men delivering had to shoot their dogs'
18:55 mircea_popescu MarieLynn arbitrage is the buying and selling of the same one asset (either natural or synthetic) in different markets that are divergent. so in order to arbitrage skills, you'd have to first buy them. skills aren't commodities however, and so this "arbitrage your skills" is just hipster talk.
18:55 MarieLynn I shall never use it again in your presence then
18:55 mircea_popescu lol ty.
18:56 mircea_popescu tbh i was expecting something more along the lines of "wtf is a synthetic"
18:56 asciilifeform you can get machine racks in shipping containers. drop them straight on the snow, connect to power plant, put a bit of concertina wire around.
18:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so your dc sinks ten feet each summer ?
18:56 asciilifeform i bet they float just fine.
18:57 mircea_popescu how do you find them again if they float ?
18:57 asciilifeform radio?
18:57 mircea_popescu ;;google otters holding hands.
18:57 gribble Otters holding hands - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epUk3T2Kfno>; Otterly adorable: Dozy otters hold hands while taking a nap so they ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2421731/Otterly-adorable-Dozy-otters-hold-hands-taking-nap-dont-drift-apart-sleep.html>; Sea otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_otter>
18:57 asciilifeform or that.
18:57 bounce the offshoring brokers are in a sense arbitraging skills
18:57 asciilifeform anchor.
18:57 benkay who's this MarieLynn ?
18:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, i know the daughter of the guy that designed fucking buildings there. it's insanely expensive, you have to anchor i nthe permafrost.
18:57 mircea_popescu benkay see teh log, she actually properly introduced herself.
18:57 pankkake benkay: use the WoT, m8
18:57 asciilifeform ammonal is expensive now?
18:58 benkay ;;gettrust MarieLynn
18:58 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask MarieLynn!4a74bfc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.116.191.194. Trust relationship from user benkay to user MarieLynn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=MarieLynn | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MarieLynn | Rated since: Fri May 2 14:21:45 2014
18:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform listen, for your average "rich american" 10 cubic meters of cement are expensive.
18:58 asciilifeform lol
18:58 mircea_popescu don't go telling me about how a 200 meter long pike is nothing.
18:58 asciilifeform average american will not be hosting in the klondike, agreed.
18:59 mircea_popescu bounce yeah, something like that, perhaps.
19:00 asciilifeform almost certainly good ROI though if you factor cooling.
19:00 mircea_popescu up until some derps come to confiscate your cattle
19:00 asciilifeform lol
19:00 mircea_popescu because your cooling is endangering the spotted ice shrimp
19:00 asciilifeform let them confiscate hot reactor.
19:01 benkay lol MarieLynn your website has an obama quote? is that...are you...what even ams, yo
19:01 mircea_popescu you're going to erect an atmosphere-cooled, unauthorised nuclear reactor in alaska ?
19:01 mircea_popescu and they say i'm wild.
19:01 mircea_popescu benkay she's a canadian, she's entitled to vote for obama.
19:02 asciilifeform i bet they've got one in norilsk as we speak.
19:02 mircea_popescu nah. they'd have blown it by now.
19:02 mircea_popescu not even actual experts can run the shit russians make.
19:03 mircea_popescu it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists.
19:03 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/6IwIdeZ.png
19:03 MarieLynn Benkay I put it there for fun, I just met him casually about 22 years ago with his mom :)
19:03 asciilifeform herr orlov had a piece, where he 'what if concert pianos sometimes exploded'
19:03 asciilifeform 'how many serious pianists left'
19:03 MarieLynn I still haven't asked the museum archivist to tak out the note he wrote in the guestbook. Barrie!
19:03 benkay "java on rails for nuclear physicists" << lulzlozlozwlw
19:05 mircea_popescu MarieLynn how;'s the guy';s mom like ?
19:05 mircea_popescu the red us press was making her sound like a monster recently.
19:06 MarieLynn She seemed very aloof. She was busy looking at this http://www.seminairedequebec.org/photos/Maquette-du-site-du-Seminaire-au-Musee-de-l-Amerique-francaise_gp267438.html
19:06 MarieLynn Obama is a surprising person. Freakishly thin. Very 'rememberable'
19:07 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete "non-delfationary " is what ?
19:09 benkay MarieLynn: what brought you in here?
19:09 mircea_popescu "Berkshire quarterly profit hurt by weather, insurance"
19:09 mircea_popescu mwahahaha suffer bitch.
19:10 MarieLynn I was walking on this steet called Twitter and BitcoinPete picked me up!
19:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00096627 = 16.3783 BTC [-] {2}
19:10 bounce easy street, no
19:11 MarieLynn Usually when I participate in these things I wind up wioth an annoying stalker so I haven't been in IRC for over a decade.
19:11 fluffypony BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/T7sPGDX.jpg
19:11 fluffypony uh I know MarieLynn, gribble stalks me all the time
19:11 FabianB MarieLynn: your red wordpress emergency button is leading to "No Results Found"
19:11 fluffypony gribble: stalker.
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31472 @ 0.00096538 = 30.3824 BTC [-] {2}
19:11 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Amazing how that actually fits history
19:11 MarieLynn Damn PasswordBox always changing my fields! Thanks for the heads up.
19:12 artifexd <mircea_popescu> it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists. << lol & bashed
19:12 Namworld Trendon was such a retard... "Herp derp, I'm going to run a ponzi scheme and just use spend everything directly on all my personal accounts."
19:12 mircea_popescu ^
19:12 Namworld and sold 85000 BTC for like 2 bucks each after trading losses...
19:12 mircea_popescu btw, http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/05/01/the_military_s_top_spy_will_be_a_woman
19:12 Namworld Looks like most was returned to "investors"
19:13 mircea_popescu that chick's actually smart, too.
19:13 Namworld Wow, so much work and trouble for just 165k USD
19:13 fluffypony Namworld: yeah I was expecting more
19:14 Namworld I never saw those numbers... this is absurd.
19:15 fluffypony but he did have the good fortune of many back rubs
19:16 fluffypony csshih: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-triatholight-a-300-hour-flashlight-that-seems-too-84489515654.html <- thoughts?
19:18 csshih fluffypony, really
19:18 csshih holy shit 32 led bulbs with a massive 20,000 mcd?!
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00096474 = 13.7958 BTC [-] {2}
19:19 bounce you can get whatwasit 100 hours out of a single aa... but it won't be much light.
19:19 csshih yeah it's a boatload of advertising bullshit
19:19 csshih OURS HAS MORE LEDS IT"S BETTER
19:19 mircea_popescu add some blades.
19:20 fluffypony bounce: absolutely - on my ZebraLight SC51s I can do 4 days at ~3 lumens
19:20 fluffypony csshih: I thought you'd enjoy it :)
19:20 csshih fluffypony, check out the zebraligh sc52
19:20 fluffypony csshih: I know - it's time for an upgrade
19:20 csshih it can do 3 months.. grated at 0.01 lumens LOL
19:20 csshih but OMG 2000 hours
19:20 fluffypony csshih: I'm sure I mentioned to you the other day 1 of my SC51s has grown legs, gah
19:20 bounce or the lri proton pro, or a host of other high-end flashlights
19:21 csshih haha
19:21 csshih oops
19:21 csshih yeah the lri is nice, but it's dated
19:21 bounce can't get'em here
19:22 MarieLynn LEDs hurt my eyes... Can't...
19:22 bounce all I have is a photon II, came as a giveaway. guy had a sack full of'em, when in yurp they cost 20 euro a piece.
19:22 fluffypony bounce: http://www.illuminationsupply.com
19:22 csshih yikes
19:22 csshih oh yeah that's my shop, thanks fluffypony
19:22 fluffypony bounce: you should pester csshih for a coupon code :-P
19:23 bounce still a continent away
19:23 fluffypony they do international shipping, yo
19:23 csshih ya
19:23 fluffypony on the Photon topic tho
19:23 assbot [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 500 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1086 BTC [+]
19:23 fluffypony the ReX was an amazing piece of kit
19:23 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
19:23 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmo3q9yCEAA-LtT.jpg
19:23 fluffypony so glad I still have mine
19:23 mircea_popescu check out the drop.
19:24 fluffypony with solar and USB chargers
19:24 bounce dramatic. what's dropping?
19:24 fluffypony just a pity that you have to strip it and waterproof it yourself
19:24 csshih what am I looking at
19:24 MarieLynn yeah writing too small
19:25 fluffypony bounce: at the top left you can see it says "Misutyusri QU530YT -RR"
19:25 fluffypony duh.
19:25 dignork BingoBoingo: you asked for openbsd build instructions for bitcoin 7.x: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a8deaffc95d102a2dbc
19:25 bounce I'd not've made that out hadn't you told
19:26 thestringpuller MarieLynn: New Year.s Resolution = Use AirBnB. a lot! << @_@ coincidentally I just had the worst rental experience of my life with them
19:26 bounce sudoitis on openbsd. phail.
19:26 thestringpuller if the owners where in WoT i would be neg rating them right now
19:26 fluffypony ;;google Misutyusri QU530YT -RR
19:26 bounce curl? CURL?
19:26 gribble No matches found.
19:26 fluffypony lawl
19:26 dignork bounce: curl vs. wget?
19:27 mircea_popescu bounce t yields.
19:27 fluffypony openbsd doesn't come with wget preloaded
19:27 MarieLynn What happened <+thestringpuller>
19:27 bounce at least freebsd has "fetch" in base, dunno what openbsd does there
19:27 thestringpuller hmm that didn't highlight for me
19:27 MarieLynn I suck at IRC, educate me :)
19:27 thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com lets have fun with paul graham
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07444265 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
19:27 gribble Let's have fun with Paul Graham pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/>; Decembrie 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/12>; Fata morgana II, or don't you just hate it when you come up with an ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/fata-morgana-ii-or-dont-you-just-hate-it-when-you-come-up-with-an- (1 more message)
19:28 BingoBoingo dignork: well, I made the offer to some kid, but post or pm address
19:28 fluffypony bed time noa, cheers
19:28 thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/#comment-99322 << MarieLynn
19:28 MarieLynn Good night Fluffy!
19:28 BingoBoingo ;;rate dignork 1 found an opportunity to make a useful thing
19:28 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dignork has been recorded.
19:29 bounce doesn't openbsd have a port for bitcoind, by the by?
19:29 mircea_popescu ok sorry for the abstruse earlier image. it's the yield of us treasury bonds, 30 years, traded in japan
19:30 bounce right. why'd that drop all of a sudden? start of the avalanche?
19:30 mircea_popescu stocks are also eating the gains.
19:30 BingoBoingo bounce some pieces of software you want to build from source.
19:31 MarieLynn <+thestringpuller> That sucks. My last AirBnB in Toronto had a kleptomaniac cat... Other than that, good experiences so far.
19:31 mircea_popescu MarieLynn thestringpuller i think there may be a strong difference based on location. airbnb may work a lot better outside of the us than inside.
19:31 bounce what's with the wholesale quoting? o_O?
19:32 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmp51XUCIAEc8KW.jpg:large << warren buffett now associating with... wait for it... with ginsu knives.
19:32 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: How about a Yankees game?
19:32 bounce BingoBoingo: even then ports is the right place to store the compilation instructions
19:32 mircea_popescu if he starts doing jay leno and roger/cathylee i'll weep
19:32 bounce that is more or less why the thing exists
19:33 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Maybe?
19:33 MarieLynn I look at AirBnB in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the places in St-P. are palacial and the stuff in Moscow is dinky... Wonder what it will be like.
19:34 mircea_popescu im pretty sure it's palatial.
19:34 BingoBoingo bounce: Sure, but sometimes you gotta be able to reproduce something in a different way. It may not be the most right way.
19:35 bounce well, if there isn't a port then this is as good a point as any to cook one up
19:36 MarieLynn Okay, I only want palatable :P
19:36 bounce heh, tritium glow fobs. apparently they're made somewhere near here but you can't buy'em. can buy'em in the uk but only if you live there due to transport regulations and shit
19:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00096812 = 0.5809 BTC [+]
19:37 mircea_popescu get a load of this fucktard :
19:37 mircea_popescu Noah Rothman Hungary, first member of the Warsaw Pact to slough off the bonds of communism, most resistant to Russ sanctions pic.twitter.com/L9B0sdPhzx
19:37 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu @NoahCRothman O look, Romania not included. Because everyone else EXCEPT Romania had troops in Odessa, amirite ? #irrelevantidiocy
19:37 mircea_popescu Noah Rothman @Mircea_Popescu not sure what you're getting at. Finland not included either. Are you suggesting Romanian operatives active in Ukr?
19:37 mircea_popescu so... he doesn't understand what i'm getting at. because FINLAND was also omitted.
19:37 bounce commie bonds? what's the yield on that?
19:37 mircea_popescu o, what relevancy could omitting all the people against have on an article discussing "the only people against" ?
19:37 mircea_popescu bounce syphilis.
19:38 bounce you wish.
19:38 bounce could perchance do an ideology market thingy
19:39 bounce (biggest yield: irony)
19:41 mircea_popescu unintentional irony crits
19:41 mircea_popescu > 9k.
19:42 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm told by my obviously bored intel that in point of fact 1,045 yo made some chick "the oldest living protoss"
19:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47524 @ 0.00096422 = 45.8236 BTC [-] {3}
19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17810 @ 0.00096359 = 17.1615 BTC [-] {2}
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07439009 = 0.5951 BTC [-]
19:50 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: come on everyone loves a yankee's game
19:50 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Well, I think they are actually coming out here this year, some time. I dunno when though.
19:51 thestringpuller where u @
19:52 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: St Louis-ish
19:52 thestringpuller i haven't been to MO since 2011
19:52 thestringpuller damn
19:52 thestringpuller how time flies..
19:53 BingoBoingo Yeah
19:54 thestringpuller I'll send you some crypto mail soon and we'll have a BTC game day.
19:55 BingoBoingo Cool.
20:01 BingoBoingo %book
20:01 atcbot 25k@239 33k@225 23k@224 | 48k@200 90k@156 10k@155
20:05 csshih o/ BigBitz
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00096812 = 0.7745 BTC [+]
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20:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07410072 = 0.1482 BTC [-]
20:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07452036 = 0.8197 BTC [+] {3}
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07455956 = 0.2237 BTC [+] {2}
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21:13 kakobrekla if anyone is short of doge bullshit; http://moneyandtech.com/dogecon-sf-costume-contest-winner/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dogecon-sf-costume-contest-winner
21:16 Namworld That's some thick chest hair...
21:18 kakobrekla i watched a bunch of episodes of computer chronicles quite some time ago, i guess this kennas show will have a similar feel in 20 years or so. the main difference though is that cc was not ran by scammers but the opposite.
21:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00096853 = 16.9977 BTC [+] {3}
21:21 mircea_popescu !up sull
21:21 assbot Voicing sull for 30 minutes.
21:21 Duffer1 kakobrekla did you see the doge nascar?
21:21 sull thanks. hey
21:21 mircea_popescu hello. who're you ?
21:21 mircea_popescu %t
21:21 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 224 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 44k High: 224 Low: 170 VWAP: 219
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
21:21 kakobrekla Duffer1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014#656103
21:22 sull bitcoinpete sent me
21:22 Duffer1 ya pretty much
21:22 mircea_popescu anyone want to lend me a billion or so of the dogecoins on a one year term ?
21:22 Duffer1 the hood of the car is worse
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0335 = 0.201 BTC [+] {2}
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
21:22 mircea_popescu sull cool.
21:23 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i can lend you 40000
21:23 mircea_popescu but... still.
21:23 thestringpuller lolol
21:23 mircea_popescu thestringpuller what's the thing trading for, 50 satoshi per ?
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
21:24 Namworld Around 100 satoshi afaik
21:25 mircea_popescu thestringpuller 40k hardly worth the paper to print the contract on.
21:27 Namworld Since it's about 18 bucks of dogecoins, it's probably worth the paper, just not the time.
21:28 Namworld Unless you print on gold sheets
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23453 @ 0.00097322 = 22.8249 BTC [+] {3}
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0315001 = 0.189 BTC [+]
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-]
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0335 = 0.1675 BTC [+]
21:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0745599 = 0.2237 BTC [+]
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0317301 = 0.2538 BTC [-]
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0333001 = 0.2664 BTC [-]
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.06474168 = 0.5179 BTC [-]
21:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
21:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
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22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00447203 = 0.1655 BTC [-]
22:35 ThickAsThieves <+fluffypony> csshih: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-triatholight-a-300-hour-flashlight-that-seems-too-84489515654.html <- thoughts? /// yknow, a good scam here would be to include some battery power under the hood, fooling people to wow at its initial duration of use, then they put it away for a year like every other flashlight and forget about it
22:39 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: the 'battery assist' circuit is an ordinary voltage multiplier.
22:40 asciilifeform so long as you can keep the output voltage above the junction minimum of the leds, you have some light
22:40 asciilifeform for some reason i thought this was standard on led flashlights, but possibly the chinese omit it.
22:41 asciilifeform likewise, since a switched voltage regulator ('boost reg' for hardware people) is not 100% efficient,
22:41 asciilifeform this is necessarily a poorer use of the batteries than the traditional version of several 1.5v cells in series.
22:42 asciilifeform it does, however, allow you to drain them completely
22:42 asciilifeform (as you could in a classical, incandescent flashlight)
22:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00097446 = 15.5914 BTC [+]
22:43 asciilifeform why there needs to be a 'kickstarter' for a flashlight, i cannot answer. ask the gods.
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23:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12497 @ 0.00097446 = 12.1778 BTC [+]
23:10 moiety mewning eberybady
23:11 benkay mewity, how goes it
23:17 BingoBoingo moiety: Check the logs, future past you was here
23:23 moiety i'm just catching up, i missed a lot... is it just me or are the logs longer thesedays even with voicingness BB?
23:23 moiety benkay: mewity! just woke up from an epic sleep :D feel really good, how are you?
23:23 benkay tres duper
23:24 BingoBoingo Yeah, they keep growing
23:25 moiety surprised to see you actuallement BB - its fliday
23:25 BingoBoingo moiety: Feeling under the weather.
23:25 moiety benkay i actually say that word irl - mewity lol
23:26 moiety oh? what kind of under the weather? temperature BB?
23:27 BingoBoingo moiety: Weather as euphamism for feeling unwell
23:27 moiety i know so i wondered if you had a fever
23:28 moiety paracetamol will regulate your body temp if its jumping around
23:31 BingoBoingo Oh, I'm working on it
23:32 moiety BB btw paracetamol doesn't have a % ;P
23:32 moiety though a hot toddie wouldn't go a miss if you have a cold
23:33 BingoBoingo Cool
23:41 BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Ql5gJ_5c--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/705730827667348772.jpg
23:42 moiety sort of unrelated but is it just me that is intensely annoyed by gawker as a website?
23:43 moiety also i like how we don't have to re-up! when assbot takes a break kakobrekla :D
23:44 kakobrekla it has four goldfish worth of memory
23:46 benkay ;;later tell jurov thing's a little tricky to test. has anyone built an mpex sandbox?
23:46 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:46 mike_c moiety: +1 can't stand it.
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3984 @ 0.0001459 = 0.5813 BTC [-] {2}
23:47 kakobrekla mike just do !down mike_c if so
23:47 mike_c can't stand gawker :)
23:47 moiety assbot had a tantrum!
23:48 moiety mike_c: and it appears theres a few sites that use the same look/set up? its horrible to use
23:48 mike_c i 3> assbot
23:48 kakobrekla well anyway selfdown functionality is preserved
23:48 kakobrekla i think.
23:48 mike_c that wasn't the right emoticon
23:48 kakobrekla a hat on tits?
23:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0745599 = 0.2237 BTC [+]
23:49 kakobrekla actually i expanded a feature moiety .
23:49 moiety there is only one thing i wish for assbot. it doesn't have manuls to counteract a potential war from gribble's kittens
23:49 moiety kakobrekla: o?
23:50 kakobrekla yea, i guess you will see it when you see it :)
23:51 moiety don't keep me in suspenders!
23:52 kakobrekla but why not, i hear they are fashionable again
23:52 moiety because i get far too excited about the bots >.>
23:52 kakobrekla lol
23:53 kakobrekla id rather not tell now again, so theres no disappointment.
23:54 moiety has it been in teh logs? im still catching up
23:54 kakobrekla no no, i just made it up
23:56 kakobrekla ok ok i give up, too much pressure!
23:56 kakobrekla !jd mpif
23:56 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.85524671 BTC; +0.00456912 BTC (+0.0028%) since last check 10m 4s ago.
23:56 kakobrekla thar
23:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.139999 = 0.7 BTC [-]
23:58 moiety well you cave easily :D // very nice!
23:59 moiety peer pressure ftw
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