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00:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform finally, what i don't understand in this whole thing, is why didn't the guy just take the 5th ?
00:04 mircea_popescu send his wife some email about how he had shoplifted or run a red light or w/e
00:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: IANAL, but i don't think you can do that in a civil action
00:05 mircea_popescu after which he won't give the keys because he's concerned the govt might imprison him by using those keys to read his email.s
00:05 mircea_popescu they are threatening criminal contempt. it's their only actual effectual means.
00:05 asciilifeform threatening, yes, but AFAIK this was technically a civil case.
00:05 mircea_popescu otherwise w/e, add 1k per day until you're done adding numbers.
00:05 asciilifeform or rather, 'administrative' - sort of like traffic court
00:06 asciilifeform if he sat around until they physically dragged him off, he might've been able to (might still, actually) end up in criminal proceedings
00:06 asciilifeform where he might try to take the 5th
00:07 asciilifeform might want to ask a real live lawyer about this one
00:10 mircea_popescu itmakes little difference tho.
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
00:10 mircea_popescu 5th defense is available throughout.
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
00:11 mircea_popescu besides, there's an entire mess of civil proceedings that are still criminal for the purposes of that defense.
00:12 asciilifeform I imagine there was a precedent where it didn't fly. That, or L and all of his predecessors had uncommonly drunken lawyers.
00:16 mircea_popescu or pehraps a not wholly digested sense that they are interacting with their enemy
00:16 mircea_popescu rather than with their government.
00:18 asciilifeform the judge review site is a real gem
00:20 mircea_popescu re-reading the transcript it sort-of makes it sound as if the fbi and the judge had prior agreement
00:20 mircea_popescu and then in court the judge was confronted with a different request from what was agreed in advance.
00:21 mircea_popescu pretty fucking pernicious this, the defendant doesn't get to go around and chat weith the judge off the record first, before picking one.
00:21 asciilifeform my suspicion is that the inquisitor (the fellow who actually ran the show) - and definitely the judge - weren't really prepared for the 'we don't have a backdoor already' statement by L
00:22 mircea_popescu possibly.
00:22 asciilifeform damn near everything has an obvious administrative backdoor by default
00:22 mircea_popescu fucking obnoxious dude, that. hello! jim mays here with the government's latest pile of nonsense!"
00:22 asciilifeform L's system, lame as it was for obvious reasons, was unusual in that regard.
00:23 mircea_popescu and that binall guy is a retard.
00:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.38 = 1.9 BTC [-]
00:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00979993 = 0.4606 BTC [-]
00:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.00979993 = 1.4014 BTC [-]
00:28 asciilifeform i suspect that the screws will be tightened soon, and the rules that apply to telephone exchanges (illegal to run without user-friendly backdoor at your own expense) will be applied elsewhere.
00:29 mircea_popescu net result, us loses the shred of internet relevance it still has
00:29 asciilifeform for example, it now is (or soon will be, depending on what document you believe) to sell a car in the u.s. without a remote-disable radio.
00:29 mircea_popescu i don't see why this is so hard to graps, but the sovereignity of the internet is not negotiable, it is mandatory.
00:29 mircea_popescu yes but cars run in the us.
00:30 asciilifeform it would be interesting to see an internet that doesn't consist mainly of u.s. telecom oligopolies.
00:32 asciilifeform maybe time to bring back fidonet.
00:32 mircea_popescu it doesn't mainly consist of us telecom now.
00:32 mircea_popescu whatcher talking about.
00:32 asciilifeform ok, replace 'us' with 'nato block'
00:34 asciilifeform see, don't misunderstand, nato doesn't formally own all the oceanic fibers, etc. but if someone can cut your fiber and weld it back with a magic box inline, and you can't do squat about it... you don't own said fiber.
00:34 asciilifeform even if you paid for the boat and so forth
00:35 mircea_popescu by this aergument the russians own the intertnet.
00:36 asciilifeform the cream of the russian navy was rusting and irradiating walrus, last i checked
00:36 asciilifeform i don't think the ussr lived to get fiber taps right
00:37 mircea_popescu that may or may not be. factually however, the cream of the us navy is getting boobjobs and trying to be called chelsea.
00:37 mircea_popescu so...
00:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 490 @ 0.00134979 = 0.6614 BTC [+] {5}
00:38 asciilifeform i do wonder about the fellows who built 'Glomar Explorer'. all dead/senile by now?
00:39 thestringpuller oh wow
00:39 thestringpuller people are active
00:39 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
00:39 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00091655 / 0.00092987 / 0.00094023 (116369 shares, 108.21 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086118 / 0.00094023 (413479 shares, 356.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089704 / 0.00094307 (6497057 shares, 5,828.18 BTC)
00:40 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 208 @ 0.00820384 = 1.7064 BTC [-] {2}
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00:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform check this shit out : "Only 517 full time magistrate judges and 42 part-time magistrate judges plus some weirdo who is both magistrate judge and court clerk, as of 2009. Guess there couldn’t have been many more in 1993. So I’ll start looking for or making that list. Probably start next week because of the blogging thing."
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00093391 = 1.681 BTC [+] {2}
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01:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 907 @ 0.00093502 = 0.8481 BTC [+]
01:56 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2474 @ 0.0002 = 0.4948 BTC [-]
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02:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00093526 = 2.1511 BTC [+]
02:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1056 @ 0.00093266 = 0.9849 BTC [-] {2}
02:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.94999999 = 9.5 BTC [+] {3}
02:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 229 @ 0.00850002 = 1.9465 BTC [-] {5}
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03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00093578 = 0.6981 BTC [+]
03:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.962 = 2.886 BTC [-]
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03:42 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 341 @ 0.00119008 = 0.4058 BTC [-] {2}
03:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1854 @ 0.00093695 = 1.7371 BTC [+]
03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187 @ 0.00092992 = 0.1739 BTC [-]
04:08 Rannasha So someone just lost 7000 BTC in a single bet at 96% on JD
04:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.962 = 4.81 BTC [-]
04:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 502 @ 0.00092417 = 0.4639 BTC [-]
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04:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 579 @ 0.000193 = 0.1117 BTC [-] {2}
04:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1698 @ 0.00093301 = 1.5843 BTC [+]
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05:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00093008 = 1.6741 BTC [-]
05:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 66 @ 1.02454545 = 67.62 BTC [+] {5}
05:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.039 = 21.819 BTC [+]
05:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.039 = 20.78 BTC [+]
05:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
05:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093008 = 0.6511 BTC [-]
05:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3270 @ 0.00092288 = 3.0178 BTC [-]
06:04 jurov ;;bc,convert eur
06:04 gribble 1 BTC = 132.76999 U.S. dollars = 97.424413 Euros
06:13 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.01478 = 0.1035 BTC [+]
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06:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 89 @ 0.001199 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
06:40 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GOLD] 250 @ 0.0028 = 0.7 BTC [+]
06:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5162 @ 0.00092447 = 4.7721 BTC [+] {2}
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00092478 = 2.312 BTC [+]
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07:20 mircea_popescu hey topace Ukyo http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ give a coin would you ?
07:29 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 630 @ 0.00119304 = 0.7516 BTC [-] {2}
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 170 @ 0.001191 = 0.2025 BTC [-]
07:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 0.96399999 = 25.064 BTC [-] {4}
07:42 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 28 @ 0.0082 = 0.2296 BTC [-]
07:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00092675 = 0.8804 BTC [+] {2}
07:58 mircea_popescu $vwap ^oix
07:58 mpexbot mircea_popescu: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 103.17256816 high: 221.93443406 low: 89.5310801 volume: 19 btc: 7.95373126 30 day: no data
07:58 mircea_popescu the way that shit works out... 103 huh.
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.99999998 = 12 BTC [+] {2}
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 1.083 = 4.332 BTC [+] {2}
08:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.11999998 = 11.2 BTC [+]
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 1.14057142 = 7.984 BTC [+] {4}
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00944908 = 0.5197 BTC [+] {2}
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00948054 = 0.4551 BTC [+] {3}
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 300 @ 0.00611 = 1.833 BTC [+]
08:25 ColdHardMetal MP around?
08:26 Duffer1 socialism ftw
08:27 Duffer1 nope doesn't look like he's around
08:31 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 57 @ 0.00610087 = 0.3477 BTC [-] {2}
08:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00092203 = 0.5532 BTC [-] {2}
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08:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00092604 = 2.3614 BTC [+]
08:59 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1882 @ 0.000195 = 0.367 BTC [-]
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2760 @ 0.00092139 = 2.543 BTC [-]
09:04 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
09:04 gribble 1447310.16542
09:04 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
09:04 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
09:04 gribble Current Blocks: 261668 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 411 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 6 hours, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 185257911.629 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.48522
09:04 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 185257911.629 based on data since last change | 202183809.301 based on data for last three days
09:16 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 252 @ 0.00083807 = 0.2112 BTC [+] {3}
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09:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
09:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
09:37 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.012575 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {3}
09:39 plambert why does campbx have a price limit of 1111.11 dollars? They don't let you put in asks for higher than that amount?
09:40 topace plambert: a lot of exchanges have limits
09:41 plambert it just seems like a strange number for the limit
09:41 topace cavirtex limits the bids to 1/10th of last trade, and the asks to 10 times last trade
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.20025002 = 0.801 BTC [-] {3}
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0002183 = 0.2183 BTC [+]
10:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8490 @ 0.0012 = 10.188 BTC [+]
10:27 mircea_popescu jurov http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443656/Bank-error-makes-restaurant-manager-worlds-trillionaire-offered-pay-national-debt-glitch-spotted.html
10:31 kleeck If I saw that much cash in my account I'd conver it to BTC ASAP.
10:33 mod6 lol 404!
10:35 mod6 ;;market --buy 4040404040404
10:35 gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 58928.026 bitcoins, for a total of 763585337.8132 USD and take the price to 1793300000.0000. | Data vintage: 13.7287 seconds
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5225 @ 0.0002185 = 1.1417 BTC [+] {2}
10:37 mike_c ;;bc,24hprc
10:37 gribble 123.96
10:38 mircea_popescu mod6 i was thinking the same thing lol. account not found!
10:40 mod6 :>
10:41 mircea_popescu http://www.cnbc.com/id/101082066
10:41 ozbot Wall St. wonders if Obama wants a selloff
10:41 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy stuff.
10:42 kleeck lolzylicious.
10:42 mircea_popescu us president goes "the markets aren't paying enough attention, we are going to default!"
10:42 mircea_popescu the markets drop less than 1 %.
10:42 mircea_popescu i guess he's not particularly important in the us.
10:43 kleeck He needed to get Burnanke to say it, then we'd see a sell off.
10:43 kleeck :)
10:43 VanCleef trying hard to troll the markets
10:43 mircea_popescu bernanke's out anyway.
10:43 VanCleef but the marketplace knows oh bummer is always lying so not too much damage
10:44 kleeck The markets eat him up though. If you want to crash it, have Burnanke say something negative.
10:44 plambert The bank, which asked their customer not to identify them, had made the error during an online banking update - I wonder which bank it was?
10:46 mircea_popescu http://www.wcsh6.com/news/watercooler/article/258720/108/Mississippi-bank-mistake-leaves-customers-with-trillion-dollar-deposits
10:46 ozbot Mississippi bank mistake leaves customers with trillion dollar deposits | wcsh6.com
10:46 mircea_popescu http://5newsonline.com/2013/10/03/bank-error-sends-trillions-to-fort-smith-womans-account/
10:46 mircea_popescu http://swtimes.com/news/bank-glitch-enters-4-trillion-fort-smith-account
10:46 ozbot Bank Glitch Enters $4 Trillion To Fort Smith Account | The Times Record
10:46 mircea_popescu apparently it's been all over.
10:46 kleeck Interesting.
10:47 kleeck So, if you have time to remove any amount of that do you get charged or does it qualify as a banking error and they eat the cost?
10:47 kleeck (Or deoes FDIC cover it...?)
10:47 kleeck does*
10:48 mircea_popescu depends how able you are to retain counsel.
10:48 mircea_popescu but in general, it's a clerical error, you owe them
10:49 mircea_popescu anyway, it was BancorpSouth
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11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1530 @ 0.0002186 = 0.3345 BTC [+]
11:07 pizzaman1337 hey look, NSA has been targeting tor: http://rt.com/usa/nsa-target-tor-network-739/
11:07 pizzaman1337 who knew? :P
11:08 mircea_popescu lolk
11:09 asciilifeform 'owns and operates' counts as 'targeting' now ?
11:11 mircea_popescu it;s gotten to the point where pps sheets are classified top secret
11:13 mircea_popescu they're classifying boogers and diapers next
11:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00087326 = 4.0729 BTC [-]
11:15 asciilifeform anyone read the powerpoint crap yet?
11:15 asciilifeform it reeks of disinfo
11:15 pizzaman1337 yeah
11:15 asciilifeform no way in hell do these buggers not operate several Tb/sec worth of nodes
11:15 mircea_popescu it's what powerpoint is made for, neh ?
11:19 pizzaman1337 Schneier: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity
11:21 mircea_popescu i'm with asciilifeform's suggestion : that pps is prima facie evidence that the nsa is in fact currently decoding ALL traffic passing through all tor nodes, linking it to originating ips and storing this mess.
11:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: interestingly, the 'tor foundation' is a lot like the 'bitcoin foundation' but more so. they have a list of 'authority' nodes that every client prefers by default.
11:23 mircea_popescu yeah, it's quite clear that the bitcoin foundation is constructed according to a desgned specification, not unique to it.
11:24 mircea_popescu maybe not necessarily clear to the average 27 yo muppet who thinks building php code out of stack exchange snippets makes him a businessman,
11:24 mircea_popescu but the trained eye doth see the signs.
11:24 jcpham php is so erreeet
11:25 jcpham dude! it does everything
11:25 jcpham and it's been around for ages, so you know it's secure
11:25 mircea_popescu there's nothing wrong with php
11:25 mircea_popescu the dorks are the problem. php
11:25 mircea_popescu s fine
11:25 mike_c there are many things wrong with php
11:26 jcpham in today's internet a preprocessor scares me
11:26 jcpham no offense, internet
11:26 mike_c http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
11:26 ozbot PHP: a fractal of bad design - fuzzy notepad
11:26 mircea_popescu dude. it's for serving blogs and stuff like that.
11:26 mircea_popescu would you stop torturing things.
11:26 pankkake I'm with mike_c. PHP is a language for nihilists
11:27 zoinky i remember this php blog post
11:27 zoinky wish i saved the one that rebuttals it
11:28 mike_c it is so funny though
11:28 pankkake there is no rebutal. this is written by someone with years of experience using php
11:28 mike_c "You pull out the hammer, but to your dismay, it has the claw part on both sides. Still serviceable though, I mean, you can hit nails with the middle of the head holding it sideways."
11:28 mircea_popescu this arguing as to why php is not the best tool to write nuclear power plant supervision tools and spacecraft controlsoftware entirely misses the point.
11:29 mircea_popescu php is intended to make the date show in a html page.
11:29 pankkake no it's not. many languages can do that
11:29 pankkake php is not more simple
11:29 mircea_popescu i am not saying it is more simple.
11:29 kakobrekla hey hey i use it in my nuclear power plant
11:29 pankkake it has no special features for the web
11:29 mircea_popescu i am not saying it does.
11:29 mike_c pankkake is saying that it does the same thing as other languages, only worse.
11:30 deizel is this coint ipo on picostocks for real?
11:30 mircea_popescu only worse in ways and areas its userbase doesn't give a shit about.
11:30 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1612 @ 0.0002185 = 0.3522 BTC [-]
11:30 mircea_popescu deizel nothing on picostocks ios for real.
11:30 pankkake pretty much. and I've used it a lot - this is why I hate it
11:30 zoinky what language would you guys suggest
11:30 mike_c +1 for python
11:30 mircea_popescu zoinky malbolge implemented in scheme.
11:30 zoinky ugh
11:30 deizel i'd like to know before putting money into a hacked exchange written in cakephp that doesn't even have the securitycomponent enabled on the login screen
11:31 mircea_popescu deizel it's a scam since day one, this is well known, not much to see hiar.
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [-]
11:31 zoinky i use php and nodejs in pretty much all my projects, im a huge fan of laravel
11:38 zoinky silence o_O
11:38 kakobrekla *tumbleweed*
11:39 kakobrekla as i said, my nuclear power plant works fine on php.
11:39 mircea_popescu lol
11:39 KRS1 heh
11:39 mike_c while pondering the calm, go buy my piddling few ATM options: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C125T
11:39 zoinky bitcoin is coded in php, no?
11:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-]
11:40 mircea_popescu zoinky no, bitcoin is coded in c
11:40 KRS1 Why can't infrastructure managers use dedicated lines? Are they that keen on saving money that high risk infrastructure be connected to public networks?
11:40 mircea_popescu KRS1 public infrastructure is actually safer in principle.
11:41 VanCleef is php a scam?
11:41 KRS1 I disagree..that couldn't possibly be the case.
11:44 mircea_popescu KRS1 you secure your communication, not your channel.
11:44 mircea_popescu similarly, when you get married you're well advised to marry women you can trust
11:44 mircea_popescu rather than spend a lot on making the windows impenetrable and the doors unopenable.
11:50 afrotec but that's more fun
11:51 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
11:54 pankkake married women doors are usually hard to penetrate
11:55 mircea_popescu not as hard as you'd think.
11:56 pankkake well, unless you're not the husband of course
12:04 Kushedout Anyone know what this is all about? https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 cause it doesn't look legit http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png
12:06 mircea_popescu Kushedout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#340074
12:07 mike_c picostocks is the php of btc exchanges.
12:10 Kushedout There is nothing in the logs besides someone asking the same question and you bashing.
12:10 jcpham "picostocks is a scam"
12:11 jcpham that's what i gleaned
12:11 jcpham unsure if true or not, but apparently the IPO is fraud
12:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3757 @ 0.0002199 = 0.8262 BTC [+]
12:17 mircea_popescu i'm not "bashing", newb.
12:19 mircea_popescu jcpham they had the 100th scam ipo and a bunch of others. par for the course.
12:19 kakobrekla for various amounts of scam
12:19 jcpham i thought all the ipo's were scams
12:19 jcpham does the asset exchange really make it less or more of a scam
12:20 mircea_popescu some websites masquerading as exchanges specialise in listing scams/
12:20 mircea_popescu picostocks thing is such a website masquerading as an exchange.
12:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00022 = 0.44 BTC [+]
12:25 jcpham that's right buy all that labcoin
12:27 LorenzoMoney is labcoin a scam or what?
12:27 LorenzoMoney does ANYONE know the real story?
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.405 = 0.81 BTC [+] {2}
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.14299991 BTC [-]
12:29 pankkake doesn't matter. even if everything labcoin says is true it is still a scam
12:29 mircea_popescu this real story bs.
12:29 kakobrekla amazing company is what it is.
12:29 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:30 mircea_popescu what's the "real story" ? the movie of how some boy in ghana couldn't afford to buy his sweetheart shoes so he hatched a plan to build an internet paper empire ?
12:31 kakobrekla so if slovenia means somalia ghana means italy?!
12:32 mircea_popescu lol got me there.
12:32 mircea_popescu i guess this is correct.
12:33 mircea_popescu btw, anyone saw the news item about the boatload of african refugees trying to get to europe that had no cellphones and since the boat was leaking
12:33 mircea_popescu they started a fire to get people's attention
12:33 mircea_popescu which burned their tub do the ground err... not to the ground really. to sea level.
12:33 pankkake lol that was why?
12:34 mircea_popescu The disaster occurred when the boat's motor stopped working and the vessel began to take on water, Italian Interior Minister Angelino Alfano said.
12:34 mircea_popescu People on board burned a sheet to attract the attention of rescuers, starting a fire on board.
12:34 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 790 @ 0.000226 = 0.1785 BTC [+]
12:34 pankkake the real question is why would somalians want to go to italy
12:34 mircea_popescu because welfare state.
12:35 pankkake of one of the most broke eu countries
12:35 mircea_popescu i suspect broke means different things in different places.
12:35 pankkake but I get it - there are a lot of myths of money growing on trees
12:35 mircea_popescu besides, from italy they can get to monaco
12:35 pankkake so we get migrants who go to France to get all that free money
12:35 asciilifeform afaik once you're in the eu, you can wander off to some other eu country
12:36 pankkake turns out, there is no such free money
12:36 mircea_popescu ^
12:38 mircea_popescu pankkake at least there's free cheese.
12:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00086947 = 1.9998 BTC [-]
12:43 skinnkavaj Is labcoin scam or not?
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0029 = 0.435 BTC [-] {2}
12:44 kakobrekla skinnkavaj http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#340125
12:44 kakobrekla follow that link on the end!
12:45 skinnkavaj kakobrekla: oh wow thanks im on tv
12:45 kakobrekla :D
12:48 mircea_popescu lol
12:48 mircea_popescu is this the result of the forum croaking ?
12:49 kakobrekla dunno
12:49 mircea_popescu and incidentally, how come there's not a half dozen bitcoin busionessmen starting their own retardstalk ?
12:49 kakobrekla maybe 5 or 10 users more here than regularly
12:49 mircea_popescu where have all the jesuses gone ?
12:50 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/8zrBQqs7waA
12:50 ozbot Marlene Dietrich - Where have all the flowers gone? - YouTube
12:56 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1657 @ 0.000226 = 0.3745 BTC [+]
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1114 @ 0.00023409 = 0.2608 BTC [+] {2}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00949799 = 0.5034 BTC [+] {2}
12:59 pankkake every time I see a + on labcoin… http://totoz.eu/img/flu12345678
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.009498 = 0.133 BTC [+]
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 486 @ 0.0052 = 2.5272 BTC [-]
13:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16820 @ 0.00025576 = 4.3019 BTC [+] {12}
13:05 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> and incidentally, how come there's not a half dozen bitcoin busionessmen starting their own retardstalk ? <<<< I was pondering this while on the shitter this morning
13:06 pankkake assbot: now you're just trying to get me mad
13:06 ThickAsThieves great time for someone to dethrone btctalk
13:06 mircea_popescu ideally multiple someones.
13:06 pankkake why would you want to create another forum?
13:06 jcpham rumor is eligius is working on a new forum
13:06 mircea_popescu afaik that's theymos' idea anyway
13:06 jcpham i told them i'd moderate if it doesn't suck
13:06 jcpham the new forum that is
13:06 pankkake moderators suck
13:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3317 @ 0.00087238 = 2.8937 BTC [+]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 169 @ 0.00511927 = 0.8652 BTC [-] {3}
13:07 pankkake and most forum software suck
13:07 jcpham fisrt ban goes to pankkake
13:07 ThickAsThieves everyone sucks in a forum
13:07 pankkake jcpham: yay
13:07 jcpham lolololo
13:07 jcpham i support pre-banning
13:07 pankkake there's a forum I've been on for 10+ years, I think I have been banned for 3 of those years
13:07 Doctor_Andonuts ThickAsThieves: have you done all the btct -> other exhchange transfers? I know your busy, just curious
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 670 @ 0.0002648 = 0.1774 BTC [+] {2}
13:08 ThickAsThieves Doc, I just got home from 2 weeks of travelling
13:08 ThickAsThieves you'll know when they are done
13:08 ThickAsThieves i promise i won't keep it a secret ;)
13:09 Doctor_Andonuts Awesome, not complaining at all. Just want to make sure I wasnt missed or if I messed something up =D
13:09 kleeck How was Cyprus?
13:09 ThickAsThieves basically it will be the bulk of my time for the next few days
13:09 ThickAsThieves Cyprus was great
13:09 kakobrekla jcpham some religious pricks forum eh?
13:09 kakobrekla i wouldnt hang out with child molesters
13:09 ThickAsThieves got to participate in a few days of meetings between Neo and partners, etc
13:09 ThickAsThieves got to see the offices and storefront
13:10 ThickAsThieves Cyprus itself was surprisingly dry
13:10 kleeck Awesome! How's it look?
13:10 ThickAsThieves the office look great
13:10 kleeck (NeoBee)
13:10 ThickAsThieves it's all nnew build
13:10 ThickAsThieves very modern
13:11 ThickAsThieves much bigger space than comes across in the photos
13:12 Doctor_Andonuts Thats sweet
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 19 @ 0.00827889 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {2}
13:14 jurov in re: bitcointalk, there is already https://www.bitcoinforum.com/ and i'm using it for coinbr support for quite some time
13:14 jurov now if everyone stopped ignoring its existence...
13:15 pankkake but why would we use that forum?
13:15 mircea_popescu jurov who's running it ?
13:16 mircea_popescu omfg all the icons and shit.
13:16 mircea_popescu this forum is giving me dyslexia.
13:17 pankkake you can sign up with your "social media account", yay
13:17 jurov i did not research their backgroud... even if it's UC, i don't care
13:18 jurov dude was nice, made me subforum with admin access and that's all i needed
13:19 mircea_popescu well here's to hoping there'll be a bunch of these and that's tyhat.
13:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00087238 = 0.9596 BTC [+]
13:20 thestringpuller lol giving you dyslexia
13:21 lewicki free muay thai skin for lol for anyone that's interested:
13:21 lewicki http://na.alienwarearena.com/giveaways/muay-thai-lee-sin-groups-giveaway
13:21 ThickAsThieves i wouldnt mind if the concept of the "official forum thread" went away
13:22 kleeck nice lewicki - love me some jungle Lee Sin.
13:23 Apocalyptic ThickAsThieves, nor would I
13:24 jurov and re the trillionaire, mpex made me temporarily rich to some 10^20 magnitude.. no bank can come close
13:24 jurov banks dont use bigints
13:25 asciilifeform jurov: judging by the 'trillionaire' snafu, they still use BCD.
13:27 pankkake http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/amd-puts-r9-290x-pre-orders-live-asks-for-200-deposit/ litecoin mining has its preorders too!
13:27 ozbot AMD Puts R9-290X Pre-Orders Live; Asks for $200 Deposit | Hardware Canucks
13:27 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's a liability anyway, all the scammers paying you five btc or w/e to have the airs of respectability... not so good.
13:29 mircea_popescu classical math problem :
13:29 mircea_popescu "Triginta tibi sunt pueri totidemque puellae: Una est nec surgit mentula. Quid facies?"
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36000001 BTC [-]
13:30 mircea_popescu roughly speaking, "you've got thirty boys and that many girls. you've got one cock and it won't stand up. what to do ?"
13:34 jurov have its connection reset by peer?
13:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00087238 = 0.2617 BTC [+]
13:37 thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX
13:37 assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 89.5310801 / 103.17256816 / 221.93443406 (19 shares, 7.95 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
13:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.01428571 = 7.1 BTC [+] {4}
13:37 mircea_popescu lol
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.14299991 BTC [-]
13:39 jurov https://bitcoinera.net/ 6% monthly interest.. who is this?
13:39 ozbot Bitcoin Wallet | Online Bitcoin Wallet & Investing in Bitcoin - 6% monthly on your bitcoin deposits
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0275 = 2.055 BTC [+] {2}
13:40 jurov proudly writte in PHP
13:41 kleeck PHP IS FOR PLEBS
13:41 pankkake proudly, really? :/
13:41 jurov Contact Person: Christoph Zeras
13:42 jurov Address:444 Brickell Ave Miami Florida
13:42 mircea_popescu Regretfully written in PHP
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00858109 = 0.3947 BTC [-] {3}
13:42 jurov phone's there. too
13:42 mircea_popescu "We express our condoleances to ourselves for having made this website."
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00851046 = 0.8851 BTC [-] {4}
13:43 pankkake "6% monthly", "low risk"
13:44 jurov Of course bitcoinera.net also offers industry standard security, SSL certificates, AES hard disk encryption, hashed passwords, offline cold storage and transaction PINs which makes it one of the most secure online bitcoin wallets available.
13:44 mircea_popescu derp.
13:44 mircea_popescu incidentally, for all the roiling against php i can't believe nobody's saying anything about ubuntu's gedit.
13:45 jurov "industry standard" we know so well what's bitcoin industry standard
13:45 mircea_popescu i do not think i have seen a more braindamaged piece of software since the days of windows 3.1
13:45 jurov you can avoid it unlike php
13:45 mircea_popescu ;;google bitdaytrade industry standard
13:45 gribble Alberto Armandi - Hong Kong | LinkedIn: <http://hk.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Alberto/Armandi>; Bitcoin Websites - Google Drive - Google Docs: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pFHJ34pZ_5Umfmlk_eAIcBSscSAA-3xd6qWYzeEYhec/edit>
13:46 mircea_popescu jurov i thought people objected at other people using it.
13:46 kakobrekla AA's reality is distorted
13:47 mircea_popescu somewha
13:47 mircea_popescu t
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.36000001 = 8.28 BTC [-]
13:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [+]
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 39 @ 0.14299991 = 5.577 BTC [-]
13:57 KRS1 damn pigeons
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 103 @ 0.08479912 = 8.7343 BTC [+] {4}
13:59 pankkake I wouldn't trust it, it does not have "Protected against SQL injections by escaping all possible user input" in its serucity measures
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 15 @ 0.08499 = 1.2749 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5733 @ 0.00087182 = 4.9981 BTC [-] {2}
14:00 kakobrekla 6% a month, new PIBOR rate
14:00 mircea_popescu pewpewbor
14:04 thestringpuller lol isn't mpex.co written in php?
14:04 thestringpuller buildin' tables with echo statements mr. popescu
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00086492 = 2.638 BTC [-] {2}
14:05 mircea_popescu malboge
14:06 asciilifeform befunge.
14:08 mircea_popescu is that stack based malboge ?
14:09 asciilifeform 2d grid instead of linear flow.
14:09 asciilifeform http://esolangs.org/wiki/Befunge
14:09 ozbot Befunge - Esolang
14:09 mircea_popescu o
14:13 thestringpuller Malbolge was so difficult to understand when it arrived that it took two years for the first Malbolge program to appear. The first Malbolge program was not written by a human being, it was generated by a beam search algorithm designed by Andrew Cooke and implemented in Lisp.[1]
14:20 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 113 @ 0.0082 = 0.9266 BTC [-]
14:27 jurov lol but having useful code written in malbolge... maybe it could be treated as black box then
14:28 jurov but perhaps imprisonment and torture of phd students must me involved
14:28 mircea_popescu jurov or the fbi could ask for the keys.
14:29 jurov what keys? when the programmers will get insane, not even fbi will get keys
14:30 jurov but maybe they'll waterboard knuth in turn...
14:30 jurov or hire reiser
14:30 ieatcows just saw this update if anyone is an ADDICTION holder. --- Some good news at last! As we speak, 9 miners are on their way to our datacenter. Since we don't trust UPS ;) (and UPS does not deliver on the weekends) we are picking them up ourselves :) We picked them up this afternoon so they should arrive in the morning (European time) where we will have them hashing asap!
14:31 jurov ieatcows: how many ths?
14:32 ieatcows the summary says 4.2 TH but I'm not sure if they factored in the fact that the KNC miners do more than 500 GH since they wrote the summary
14:36 pankkake ;;bc,stats
14:36 gribble Current Blocks: 261707 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 372 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 184991384.841 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.30613
14:38 mircea_popescu so there's a new mpex asset : http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA
14:38 pankkake next 2 weeks: 5 min blocks?
14:38 pankkake lol NSA
14:39 asciilifeform whee
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00852001 = 0.2897 BTC [-]
14:39 mircea_popescu i plan to make a post tomorrow detailing what the plan is,
14:39 mircea_popescu but if anyone has questions good idea to ask anyway.
14:40 pankkake so, what is this thing?
14:40 jcpham fuck that i'm not beggin for an explanation
14:40 mircea_popescu pankkake a manufacturer of crypto items
14:40 pankkake could you be more vague?
14:41 kakobrekla he can.
14:41 pankkake I have no doubts
14:41 mircea_popescu yeah but it'd take straining
14:41 pankkake anyway, we know all that is needed is a name and a logo
14:42 mircea_popescu it's what it is tho, make integrated hardware-and-software products that make absolute guarantees
14:42 mircea_popescu such as, "as long as you use gizmo X, there is no way for anyone to listen in to your coversation. no matter what."
14:42 mircea_popescu or "as long as you use gizmo Y, your data will be absolutely destroyed if you fart. no exceptions."
14:43 jcpham not sure if to laugh or cry
14:43 pankkake so things that free software can do better anyway?
14:44 mircea_popescu this would include hardware and software, for one.
14:44 mircea_popescu and for the other, take lavabit as a convenient example. the theoretical privacy offered by the service depended on a godaddy ssl cert and the owner's resistance to fbi court orders.
14:45 mircea_popescu the idea is to make objects which depend on no externality. as long as they function, they function securely, and this as a matter of fact rather than convention.
14:45 pankkake no hosted email service can guarantee privacy
14:45 mircea_popescu exactly.
14:45 pankkake so, a home email server, for example?
14:45 pankkake I've seen projects like that, interesting, but sadly not going anywhere
14:45 mircea_popescu something like that would theoretically qualify, i suppose.
14:46 asciilifeform pankkake: more like a spoon. the latter is guaranteed not to stab you in the eye spontaneously, if used as prescribed. by pure physical fact of it being what it is.
14:46 kakobrekla https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp
14:46 kakobrekla go!
14:46 pankkake > php
14:47 mircea_popescu "BitWasp is an open source project which aims to lower the barrier for anyone to set up there own secure, anonymous marketplace. "
14:47 mircea_popescu great aim.
14:47 kakobrekla php can kick you off this chan
14:47 mircea_popescu the lower the barriers the better the movie. bring popcorns.
14:47 pankkake also, CodeIgniter
14:48 pankkake well, the SR fiasco tells us that the marketplace admin should be highly knowledgable
14:48 pankkake make it some easy php thing, and it's going to be a lot of failures
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]
14:49 pankkake the only way I could see it working, is that if it came with professional support
14:50 mircea_popescu from whom.
14:50 pankkake the developers
14:50 mircea_popescu pankkake http://trilema.com/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/
14:50 mircea_popescu that was 2012.
14:50 asciilifeform pankkake: does a spoon come with professional support? believe it or not, it is possible to build an artifact which functions as described, until it is physically destroyed.
14:50 pankkake ah well, I thought about it a few days ago
14:51 mircea_popescu "All help and contributions in getting Bitwasp completed are very much appreciated as the time of the lead developers is currently very limited."
14:51 pankkake asciilifeform: I'm not talking about your idea, but about bitwasp
14:51 pankkake though if it's software, you have the issue of updating it
14:51 mircea_popescu i wonder if there's some underground forum distributing teenage cunt and assorted pills to people on the basis of how many lead developer roles they fail to fill.
14:52 asciilifeform pankkake: when's the last time you updated the software in your microwave oven?
14:52 pankkake you know it's not the same thing
14:52 pankkake and the microwave does not take complex imput from strangers
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 134 @ 0.00914463 = 1.2254 BTC [+] {3}
14:53 mircea_popescu okay, when's the last time you updated the software in your girlfriend ?
14:53 pankkake mircea_popescu: pretty much all those community project fail. see diaspora for one of the best examples
14:53 mircea_popescu no argument.
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00949797 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {2}
14:53 pankkake mircea_popescu: I wish that was possible, because they were all very defective
14:54 pankkake beta versions I guess
14:54 mircea_popescu lol
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 170 @ 0.00949887 = 1.6148 BTC [+]
14:55 mircea_popescu vaguely related : http://trilema.com/2009/de-interfonibus/ 2009 article explaining how to hack in the building access intercom so as to get other people's calls.
14:57 pankkake I haven't been able to figure out what OpenTranscations actually is
14:58 mircea_popescu me either. i've probably been at it longer than you. i think we will die and it will endure mysterious.
15:00 Apocalyptic pankkake, as in mtgox's withdrawal form ?
15:00 ThickAsThieves Just found a couple bitcoins in an old BitStamp account, they won't let me withdraw until I do AML
15:01 pankkake Apocalyptic: http://opentransactions.org/
15:01 ThickAsThieves pretty retarded considering that I never actually bought or sold btc with the account
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 199 @ 0.00084192 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {4}
15:03 pankkake ThickAsThieves: do they force it for the Ripple widthdrawal too?
15:03 ThickAsThieves dunno
15:03 ThickAsThieves i'm not gonna try and find out
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5144 @ 0.0008719 = 4.4851 BTC [+] {3}
15:03 ThickAsThieves gonna do AML
15:04 ThickAsThieves I realized with this recent crash I need more quick ways to trade
15:04 pankkake I'm still trying to reverify my bitcoin-central account, they seem to want a new document every day
15:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.03 = 2.06 BTC [+]
15:04 kakobrekla lol
15:05 pankkake most of them being very easy to fake, but whatever
15:06 mircea_popescu fake documents are bad mmkay ?
15:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00999899 = 0.4999 BTC [+]
15:06 pankkake > trusting a piece of paper
15:07 asciilifeform i often wonder if all the jokers demanding documents are doing so to feed honeypots like the late SR
15:07 ThickAsThieves BitFunder will probly be next
15:07 ThickAsThieves Weex already allows AML submission
15:07 asciilifeform inevitably some moron succumbs to the temptation of buying false papers, he buys from a stoolie; and game over.
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+]
15:09 dexX7 bitstamp did this step like 2 months ago or so
15:09 dexX7 by the way ThickAsThieves: do you still process btct am -> am1?
15:10 ThickAsThieves Yes
15:10 dexX7 good to know, thanks
15:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform indeed it was never explained just how the fake ids dpr guy bought were discovered in the mail.
15:10 mircea_popescu just you know... glossed over.
15:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437 @ 0.00087387 = 0.3819 BTC [+]
15:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: possibly something like this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/open-market/
15:14 asciilifeform no need to 'discover' anything when a stoolie is in fact doing the forgeries.
15:17 dexX7 ThickAsThieves: is there a cutoff date for transfers?
15:17 ThickAsThieves well BTCT closes on Monday right?
15:17 ThickAsThieves so this weekend would make sense
15:18 dexX7 yes and afaik burnside is going to convert all remaining shares to direct shares on the 10th
15:18 dexX7 weekend is fine :)
15:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00086702 = 1.604 BTC [-]
15:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
15:31 pizzaman1337 so, the SR BTC is to be liquidated? http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/04/fbi-silk-road-bitcoin-seizure/
15:32 mircea_popescu lol he gave them the keys ?
15:32 pizzaman1337 "The FBI has not been able to get to Ulbricht’s personal Bitcoin yet. “That’s like another $80 million worth,” she said, explaining that it was held separately and is encrypted."
15:32 pankkake yes, he seems to make it a point of doing everything wrong
15:33 Diablo-D3 wow
15:33 pankkake hm, that's better
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [BMF] 9 @ 0.0151 = 0.1359 BTC [+]
15:34 asciilifeform big deal, rectothermal cryptoanalysis until he upchucks the key.
15:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it;s not worth it to them.
15:34 asciilifeform didn't say it will be a government official inserting the iron
15:34 pankkake well, if I had that much bitcoins, I'd use passwordless security
15:34 asciilifeform just whoever has unsupervised access to DPR's sorry carcass in the near future.
15:35 mircea_popescu mebbe.
15:35 Diablo-D3 that isnt even a lot of money when it comes to the government
15:36 pankkake redditors went all "it will pay the gov debt"
15:36 asciilifeform pankkake: it will go to the same place where the cocaine went.
15:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.03 BTC [+]
15:38 asciilifeform wouldn't it be funny if the 27k btc walked away sometime?
15:38 asciilifeform https://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX
15:38 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX
15:39 mircea_popescu the irony, of course, is that so far this quite strengthens bitcoin.
15:39 mircea_popescu on one hand, the govt taking the trouble to peel some of the bottom layers of idiot muppets off btc is great.
15:39 mircea_popescu on the other, 30k less btc can't hurt anything.
15:39 kleeck ^
15:39 kleeck When I saw "liquidate" I was happy.
15:40 pankkake what does liquidate mean?
15:40 kleeck Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate!
15:41 pankkake anyway, it certainly be a manual of "what not to do" for the next silk roads
15:41 deadweasel fucking daleks, the lot of you.
15:41 deadweasel ;)
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00086826 = 1.5629 BTC [+] {2}
15:41 skinnkavaj Hey doesn't anyone think ADDICTION on bitfunder is a great buy? The kncminers are arriving, they just posted news. Has anyone done any calculations how much those shares can make in divends lately?
15:41 pankkake skinnkavaj: do it yourself
15:41 mircea_popescu skinnkavaj nobody seemed to have cared so far.
15:42 skinnkavaj pankkake: Trying
15:42 pankkake http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
15:42 ozbot Mining Dashboard - The Genesis Block
15:42 kleeck "can some1 maths 4 meh plox thnx"
15:42 skinnkavaj Reading cached version of bitcointalk now
15:42 skinnkavaj Please help me calculate
15:42 mircea_popescu pankkake actually that;'s a pretty nice link.
15:42 pankkake I'm pretty sure no one is going to sell it at a good price for you anyway
15:43 pankkake mircea_popescu: it's the *only* calculator that doesn't suck
15:43 skinnkavaj 1 share is 32mhash
15:43 pankkake or the one that sucks the less
15:43 skinnkavaj Where can i find calculator for how much 1mhash will bring in?
15:43 mircea_popescu Bitfury (EU)0.78 / Bitfury (EU)0.15
15:43 mircea_popescu da fuck ?
15:43 mircea_popescu it's not normalised or somerthing ?
15:44 mircea_popescu ;;genrate 32000
15:44 gribble The expected generation output, at 32000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.108137985871 BTC per day and 0.00450574941127 BTC per hour.
15:45 mircea_popescu bejesus, 320 gh/s makes 1 btc a day.
15:45 skinnkavaj Seems not worth it
15:45 skinnkavaj with current share price
15:45 mircea_popescu i remember when the entire network was like, 30gh
15:47 pankkake http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/d1afeb43fa if I'm not mistaken, at 0.01 a share of 32 mhash, it's a loss
15:47 ozbot Mining Dashboard - The Genesis Block
15:50 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
15:50 pankkake if I ever encounter a time machine, the only thing I'd bring with me is a block erupter
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.001216 = 1.216 BTC [-] {2}
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00086702 = 1.2138 BTC [-]
15:53 ThickAsThieves so is this BitFury marketplace TradeFortress' new thing?
15:54 ThickAsThieves https://www.cex.io/promo/?src=bitv
15:54 mircea_popescu "CEX.IO is the first and leading commodity exchange in the Bitcoin community. Here you can buy or sell GHashes"
15:55 mircea_popescu duide the bullshit. it's the fourth generation.
15:55 ThickAsThieves bitcoin is a commodity bro!
15:55 mircea_popescu Ukto tried to run something called hashpower after pirate's coin minter scam support thing floundered, and THAT was 2nd generation
15:56 kakobrekla but it didnt work
15:56 mircea_popescu by now this "we're the first" and the "we're the largest" markers are pretty clear indications of dipshit 20something year old deadpirateroberts-ism.
15:56 kakobrekla cause it was no ponzi powered
15:56 jborkl that isnt the first- gpumax did that
15:57 ThickAsThieves if it is TF's thing, he paid like 210btc to advertise in btctalk
15:57 ThickAsThieves waste of money
15:57 kakobrekla O_o
15:57 jborkl what is btctalk?
15:57 jborkl never heard of it
15:57 ThickAsThieves forum
15:57 kakobrekla what is btc?
15:57 jborkl ?
15:57 ThickAsThieves scam
15:57 kakobrekla ??
15:57 jborkl never heard of it
15:57 ThickAsThieves butcointalk
15:57 kakobrekla what is heard?
15:58 ThickAsThieves who is this is?
15:58 mircea_popescu lmao 210 btc ? srsly ?!
15:58 ThickAsThieves yeah he bought 7 spots at 30btcv ea
15:58 mircea_popescu there's something amiss here. that thing isn't going to make 200 btc over its lifetime.
15:58 dexX7 lol yup
15:58 kakobrekla this is called bflism
15:58 kakobrekla bashing those ads
15:58 pankkake unless he's also selling his own stuff?
15:59 ThickAsThieves my guess is he urgently wanted to get it out there due to diff rising
15:59 pankkake though I don't even really understand what it is
15:59 mircea_popescu if we're going to discover theymos was faking his auctions cognitive style...
15:59 ThickAsThieves actually TF opened his bid at that
15:59 kakobrekla lol
15:59 kakobrekla ;;seen tradefortress
15:59 gribble tradefortress was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <TradeFortress> Graet, that's technically correct, it's just part of the demo.
15:59 jborkl lol, garr225 right?
15:59 kakobrekla he dun like irc
15:59 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the only way it makes sense to be paying 200 btc to advertise on btctalk ius if you're not paying 200 btc.
16:00 pankkake you can't really fake auctions though. it's mostly psychological
16:00 ThickAsThieves like orgasms?
16:00 mircea_popescu lol
16:00 mircea_popescu but srsly, it'd be more cost effective to buy 1 kilo of coke from the fbi
16:00 mircea_popescu and send it in baggies to your prospective customers.
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.03950968 BTC to 40`316 shares, 98 satoshi per share
16:01 ThickAsThieves maybe it's just his roundabout way of selling PMBs
16:02 jborkl where is all this KNC hardware that was supposed to be out?
16:02 jborkl without the forum, how am I supposed to keep up with scams
16:02 pankkake eh, people seem to be getting it actually
16:02 Au-WireBeard Has KNC started hosting hardware yet?
16:02 ThickAsThieves ask reddit?
16:02 ThickAsThieves ask Knc?
16:03 jborkl from what I have seen, they have not answered on the knc forum in 4 days
16:03 ThickAsThieves well they were of course mining with it themselves for a bit before shipping
16:03 ThickAsThieves so probably wont affect nethash
16:04 pankkake https://bitfunder.com/asset/ADDICTION#pane_news 9 miners!
16:04 Au-WireBeard So much for having the facility setup and ready to go before th chips arrive
16:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.009989 = 0.1598 BTC [+]
16:04 pankkake from what I understand, they're doing it in the order of all orders, so hosted mining won't go before regular orders
16:07 pankkake http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/acccounts/4259-i-got-my-tracking-number-%7B%7B-post-here-when-you-do-%7D%7D
16:07 ozbot I got my tracking number {{ POST HERE WHEN YOU DO }}
16:14 pankkake http://cointerra.com/coolit-systems-selected-cointerra-partner-liquid-cooling-solutions/ that's actually more interesting to me than their fpga demo
16:16 thestringpuller fmlafjlkeajfleawjflkajwekrwkflajfkjfljawkakjfl;lawfl;jwljejvlwg;fjw
16:16 ThickAsThieves thestringpuller got a cat
16:17 jurov or misfapped
16:17 thestringpuller my cat ran over the keyboard
16:18 jurov he'd never admit anyway
16:19 ThickAsThieves the cat typed "fml" & "flea"
16:20 Au-WireBeard So theymos is finally using that donation fund to upgrade the forums? Or just place bounties here and there?
16:21 benkay_ thestringpuller: https://soundcloud.com/mslaurynhill/ms-lauryn-hill-consumerism-1
16:21 ThickAsThieves ^ meh
16:21 benkay_ at least it has more than 12 unique words
16:22 ThickAsThieves https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=277
16:23 ThickAsThieves "This is good for the Bitcoin economy in general and the reputation in specific because it proves that Bitcoins are in and of themselves a neutral store of value or medium of exchange and that privacy does not necessarily have to be compromised for law enforcement purposes."
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 3 @ 0.04 = 0.12 BTC [+]
16:28 mircea_popescu Timing buffered disk reads: 5758 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1919.23 MB/sec
16:28 mircea_popescu some things you gotta love.
16:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.15639577 BTC to 30`000`000 shares, 3 satoshi per share
16:30 mircea_popescu herp.
16:31 jurov mhm
16:35 jurov it's actually 2.69 satoshi per share for mpex/coinbr users, 2 satoshi for passthrough bagholders
16:37 mircea_popescu hang on a second.
16:37 jurov um... my maffs are wrong.
16:37 jurov it's 3.85 for mpex, 3 else
16:38 kakobrekla smth is wrong there yeah
16:38 kakobrekla missed a decimal place?
16:39 jurov lol looking on my code for wisdom what it actualy did
16:39 jurov *into
16:40 mircea_popescu uyeah.
16:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.03 = 17.51 BTC [+]
16:40 kakobrekla seriously mp, into the ground, well, to sea level. :)
16:40 mircea_popescu omg this is hate.
16:41 kakobrekla lol
16:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.04075619 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 34 satoshi per share
16:41 mircea_popescu now it's right.
16:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 21.91991239 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 4 satoshi per share
16:43 mircea_popescu rejoice.
16:44 Diablo-D3 I refuse.
16:44 ThickAsThieves you garbage?
16:44 mircea_popescu hm ?
16:44 FabianB hmm.. why is bbet div less than august if august profits were lower?
16:44 mircea_popescu "i have no idea what's going on." ~towlie.
16:45 mircea_popescu FabianB cause it came in two chunks?
16:45 jurov at least assbot should have done its maths correctly.. now i have a mess in db
16:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.36000007 = 1.08 BTC [+] {2}
16:46 kakobrekla hm yeah
16:46 kakobrekla something is off
16:46 kakobrekla hum
16:46 mircea_popescu yeah wtf.
16:47 FabianB even both together
16:47 kakobrekla welcome to quantum assets
16:47 mircea_popescu heh. turns out, FabianB, that last month i fucked up the bitbet divs too.
16:47 mircea_popescu i overpaid about 3x ;/
16:48 ThickAsThieves heh
16:48 mircea_popescu july Profit : 5.75330454 BTC / 1.72599069 BTC on 04-08-13 ; aug Profit : 2.69851570 BTC / 2.69851526 BTC
16:48 mircea_popescu basically last month i paid the 3mn shares on mpex as if they were the whole 10mn. which they aren't.
16:49 FabianB lol, why not have all shares on mpex?
16:49 mircea_popescu there will be a 1.88896099 BTC charge on next month to make it whole. unless i forget.
16:49 mircea_popescu or i fuck something else up.
16:49 ThickAsThieves scams!
16:50 mircea_popescu FabianB well the bitbet ipo was so that once this 3mn shares sell we get teh rest of our shares allocated.
16:50 mircea_popescu however... so far it's not sold
16:50 ThickAsThieves kinda ironic, linking the trillionaire earlier
16:50 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i guess this qualifies as an unjustified accelerated dividend and therefore A SCAM
16:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.36000007 = 3.6 BTC [+]
16:51 kakobrekla mircea_popescu first payment was for 30 mio shares, second for 3 mio
16:51 mircea_popescu kakobrekla this month ? yes.
16:51 ThickAsThieves coincidentally was discussing various risks in operation with lawyer today, including "human error"
16:52 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im notoriously bad at this dividend crap. just ask jurov.
16:52 kakobrekla yeah that why assbot reported wrong numbers
16:52 kakobrekla is not phps fault
16:52 ThickAsThieves kill all teh dividend assets!
16:53 mircea_popescu assbot is not to blame
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
16:54 jurov for this i must have all kinds of paranoid checks in my code...actually i contemplated checking that fractional part isn't >1 satoshi
16:54 jurov that would have saved me
16:54 jurov but i said to myself, meh just once a month
16:54 ThickAsThieves http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/san-francisco-man-denies-connection-silk-road-webs/nbF8F/
16:54 ozbot San Francisco man denies connection to 'Silk Road' website | www.ktvu.com
16:54 mircea_popescu fractional part > 1 ?
16:54 ThickAsThieves he looks kinda like that Twilight vampire brit
16:55 jurov as i wrote above, mpex doesn't round divs to whole satoshi/share
16:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-september-2013-statement/ < made an update.
16:55 ozbot BitBet, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
16:56 kakobrekla how did that happen
16:58 mircea_popescu that ?
16:58 FabianB mircea_popescu: i think the log.bitcoin-assets links only work today if you link it without a date parameter
16:59 mircea_popescu no way ?!
16:59 ThickAsThieves oh i love the new trilema header photo
16:59 mircea_popescu i see it just fine ? it underscores you in yellow
16:59 FabianB mircea_popescu: yes, today, but not if you click it tomorrow
16:59 kakobrekla FabianB has a point
17:00 mircea_popescu well this would be because phprekla can't phode.
17:00 FabianB kakobrekla: maybe you could include the date in the links on the left
17:00 mircea_popescu yeah srsly. i need my references.
17:00 kakobrekla jsrekla will jsfix it
17:00 ThickAsThieves make all the things clickable!
17:01 mircea_popescu must have all the links permanent!
17:01 ThickAsThieves and with RSS feeds
17:01 kakobrekla we need a better logo.
17:01 ThickAsThieves make RSS feed for every handle, etc
17:01 mircea_popescu FabianB : i think now it'll work
17:01 mircea_popescu ya totally needs a logo.
17:01 mircea_popescu actually this chan needs a mascot
17:02 FabianB mircea_popescu: yup, looks good
17:02 mircea_popescu ever since usagi took that surgery.
17:02 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the horse loves you back.
17:02 ThickAsThieves Assbot the Mascot?
17:02 ThickAsThieves robotic donkey?
17:03 ThickAsThieves a robotic wooden log?
17:03 skinnkavaj ThickAsThieves: Sorry to bother you but have you finished moving to bitfunder?
17:03 skinnkavaj Neobee
17:04 ThickAsThieves I am not the real Thickasthieves
17:04 ThickAsThieves he doesnt hang out in IRC
17:04 ThickAsThieves nor does he run an illegal drug market
17:05 jcpham read: it was the six finger man!
17:05 mircea_popescu kayzer sez me ?!
17:05 ThickAsThieves in all seriousnesss, skinnkavaj, no is the answer
17:06 mircea_popescu http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa-users-online-anonymity
17:06 ozbot Attacking Tor: how the NSA targets users' online anonymity | World news | theguardian.com
17:06 mircea_popescu this is the most retarded write-up of security i saw this year.
17:06 mircea_popescu half way into it the poor undergrad camwho doing the write-up is just... mentally exhausted.
17:06 skinnkavaj ThickAsThieves: Now im really confused..
17:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1343 @ 0.000226 = 0.3035 BTC [-]
17:07 mircea_popescu wait, it was written by bruce schneider. what the ef.
17:07 pankkake skinnkavaj: I always read your nickname as skinnyvaj'
17:07 skinnkavaj pankkake: Is that someone i should know?
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.35999999 = 1.08 BTC [-] {2}
17:09 mircea_popescu lol cute.
17:09 mircea_popescu skinnkavaj vaj would be vagina in that context.
17:09 skinnkavaj A well screw you then im going home
17:09 mircea_popescu lmao
17:10 pankkake I often misread new words (like kakobrekla, I read it as something else for weeks)
17:10 pankkake I don't remember which, but there's one I was misreading for years
17:11 kakobrekla FabianB / mircea_popescu ; should be fixed
17:11 kakobrekla yeah dont worry its not really a word
17:12 mircea_popescu it's a scam.
17:12 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.5 = 1.5 BTC [-]
17:13 FabianB mircea_popescu: you might want to grep (if your blog allows that) for more old log.bitcoin-assets links
17:14 mircea_popescu yes good idea.
17:14 FabianB i think i saw at least one more, don't remember which article though
17:16 mircea_popescu there's exactly 3
17:17 ThickAsThieves "Recently published news articles discuss the intelligence community's interest in tools used to facilitate anonymous online communication. The articles accurately point out that the intelligence community seeks to understand how these tools work and the kind of information being concealed.
17:17 ThickAsThieves However, the articles fail to make clear that the intelligence community's interest in online anonymity services and other online communication and networking tools is based on the undeniable fact that these are the tools our adversaries use to communicate and coordinate attacks against the United States and our allies."
17:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#313531 hm
17:17 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:17 mircea_popescu kakobrekla can you grep the log for to halp me get these dates ?
17:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.36 = 2.88 BTC [+]
17:18 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#332651 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/#318803
17:18 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:19 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2013#318803
17:19 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [+]
17:20 kakobrekla moar?
17:21 mircea_popescu just those 3
17:21 kakobrekla a
17:21 kakobrekla theres 3
17:21 kakobrekla didnt see
17:22 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2013#332651
17:22 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:23 jurov okay, coinbr is fixed
17:23 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2013#313531
17:23 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [+]
17:24 mircea_popescu tyvm
17:25 dexX7 https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/31 + https://picostocks.com/businessplan/31 X_X ... it's scam, right?
17:25 mircea_popescu so today FabianB has found my missing 2btc and has fixed my blog.
17:25 ozbot PicoStocks.com
17:25 FabianB hehe
17:25 mircea_popescu dexX7 you're like the third guy today.
17:26 dexX7 meh
17:27 ThickAsThieves does fabian get a cherry truck or such now?
17:27 dexX7 http://i.imgur.com/ZMf6Lvt.png ... k it is fake
17:27 pankkake so how many btcs did they steal?
17:28 ThickAsThieves kinda amazing theyd so blatantly show they are a scam
17:28 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:28 ThickAsThieves :)
17:29 FabianB ThickAsThieves: i guess i get working links when i read articles on dates after they were written :)
17:30 mircea_popescu i think the cherry truck is for doing god's work by arguing with some retard on btctalk over 50 pages
17:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2013#329164
17:33 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:33 mircea_popescu that shit's ironic.
17:33 mircea_popescu wtf happened there
17:33 kakobrekla lmao
17:33 kakobrekla no clue
17:33 jurov you got censored, i spotted it quickly
17:33 jurov you then put it into blog
17:33 mircea_popescu this is conspiraci
17:33 pankkake log.b-a censors?
17:33 kakobrekla some strange encoding? i know it works for arabis chars
17:34 mircea_popescu nah it was english
17:34 pankkake oh right it breaks on some encodings from what i've seen
17:34 kakobrekla hm
17:34 mircea_popescu apparently long strings kill the bot ?
17:34 jurov yes, it was that
17:34 kakobrekla it was what
17:34 pankkake well proper English punctuation can be unicode characters too
17:34 kakobrekla i dont think lenght is the problem
17:34 jurov several ~400 chars long lines
17:34 mircea_popescu there were > 500 characters per line in that quote
17:34 kakobrekla irc has limit to it
17:34 kakobrekla set by the network
17:34 mircea_popescu let mwe find it in my log
17:35 jurov i have seen them here...but assbot did not
17:35 mircea_popescu The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except “that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement.” (
17:35 kakobrekla The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. (
17:36 mircea_popescu holes!
17:36 mircea_popescu this is SCAM logging.
17:36 jurov “ redacted
17:36 pankkake http://i.imgur.com/VmQB7yn.png weird characters
17:36 kakobrekla lol
17:36 kakobrekla in my text too?
17:36 jborkl so Cointerra is 3 miles from me, huh
17:36 pankkake yes
17:36 mircea_popescu jborkl going by ?
17:37 mircea_popescu … ?
17:37 jborkl I know exaclty the building they say they are in
17:37 kakobrekla The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement. (
17:37 kakobrekla hm
17:37 jborkl charles schwab office in that building
17:37 jborkl I will go by and see
17:37 mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's the triple dot continuation marks
17:37 kakobrekla ah
17:37 kakobrekla well dont say that anymore!
17:37 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> jborkl going by ? look at line right after that
17:37 mircea_popescu it came out empty
17:38 mircea_popescu hehe mk.
17:38 pankkake those? …
17:38 asciilifeform http://blog.jim.com/economics/technological-failure-of-the-silk-road-system.html (or: a few words from Cpt. Obvious)
17:38 ozbot Technological failure of the silk road system « Jim’s Blog
17:38 mircea_popescu … kakobrekla is a clit sausage.
17:38 mircea_popescu i guess now we have an off the record symbol.
17:38 mircea_popescu which is not necessarily that bad.
17:39 kakobrekla lolz
17:39 pankkake asciilifeform: or simply, make your website use openpgpjs. don't get why no one does
17:39 asciilifeform pankkake: js-anything as a security component damns your soul.
17:39 mircea_popescu is that actually a proper implementation ?
17:39 mircea_popescu ^
17:39 pankkake it seems to be
17:39 asciilifeform the site (or mitm version) can always serve up a diddled js.
17:39 jborkl hmm, that is a apt complex, not a office
17:39 jurov Æώ
17:40 pankkake hm, true
17:40 kakobrekla ? hm
17:40 pankkake but at least they woulndn't get any message before compromission
17:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform who the hell is "jim"
17:40 asciilifeform nobody.
17:40 asciilifeform just a random find.
17:42 kakobrekla i cant reproduce that triple dot in this retarded client
17:42 jurov just have a tor bundle include gpg proper
17:42 kakobrekla but, i can just take out of db
17:42 kakobrekla so fuck dat.
17:42 mircea_popescu http://blog.jim.com/wp-comments-post.php > Error 404 - Not Found
17:42 kakobrekla dont u version me pankkake
17:42 skinnkavaj Fuck u doing pankkake
17:43 kakobrekla scriptkiddie
17:43 kakobrekla :D
17:43 jborkl the phone number cointerra has does not work
17:43 pankkake lol at your version
17:43 pankkake jborkl: SCAM!!!
17:43 jurov https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-October/021770.html
17:44 ozbot [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle: PGP encryption built-in?
17:44 kakobrekla whose, mine?
17:44 mircea_popescu kakobrekla U+2026 ?
17:44 kakobrekla i use heavily modified script kiddie script
17:44 kakobrekla also broken
17:44 kakobrekla no i has some strange encoding here
17:44 mircea_popescu well it's horizontal ellipsis. anyway.
17:44 jurov lol "
17:44 jurov I don't consider Firefox the 'best of Web Browsing' or GPG the 'best
17:44 jurov of encryption'. They are only the crap tools we're stuck with for
17:45 jurov now.
17:45 jurov "
17:45 kakobrekla my irc client is legacy
17:45 mircea_popescu well it's good to see the interwebs have not run out of retards.
17:45 jurov hence ended the inquiry to add gpg to tor bundle.
17:46 asciilifeform a basic and inescapable problem in something like 'pgp in browser' is that the user has no way to tell if he's actually using what he thinks he's using.
17:46 mircea_popescu http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?page=1&order=dateup < ok this shit's pretty lol
17:46 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
17:46 pankkake yeah, you'd need a browser extension…
17:46 pankkake I've tried webpg, and it sucks
17:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is true.
17:46 jurov yes but they were talking about some browser add-on
17:46 pankkake does not handle multiple identities, and slows down the browser after a few hours
17:46 mircea_popescu ideally what you need is an airgapped machine and a pistol reader.
17:46 asciilifeform and this is completely aside from the 'toilet in the kitchen' problems you get.
17:47 jborkl just talked to a cointerra guy, he wont let me come by
17:47 mircea_popescu why niot ?
17:48 jborkl he said they dont have anything to show me right now
17:48 ThickAsThieves scams
17:48 mircea_popescu ...
17:48 mircea_popescu well... pick up two highschool chicks and a liter bottle of vodka and go crash their office.
17:49 jborkl weel, I figured out it was a apt complex
17:49 mircea_popescu speaking of which, bbl.
17:49 kakobrekla he is going to trash the office
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00087512 = 1.9253 BTC [+] {2}
~ 17 minutes ~
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.00000001 BTC [-]
18:19 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.006763 = 0.142 BTC [+]
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00901347 = 1.0816 BTC [-] {5}
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00900102 = 0.369 BTC [-]
18:28 jurov kakobrekla: assbot should do *tumbleweed* when no activity
18:29 jurov since her source code needs to be maintained in constant state of disorder
18:30 jurov !t m s.mpoe
18:30 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086486 / 0.00090941 / 0.00093695 (101603 shares, 92.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00086624 / 0.00094023 (478116 shares, 414.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00089768 / 0.00094307 (6407070 shares, 5,751.55 BTC)
18:30 jurov !t m s.nsa
18:30 assbot Are you sure you have no tobacco?
18:30 jurov gotcha :)
18:31 jurov that reminds me to add it to coinbr
18:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00900102 = 0.7291 BTC [-]
18:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
18:31 pankkake you have to add the new securities manually?
18:32 jurov yes. there's no reliable way otherwise
18:32 jurov i even had S.DICE shown in stat output till today
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00087645 = 0.3725 BTC [+]
18:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 211 @ 0.00900102 = 1.8992 BTC [-]
18:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00900102 = 0.126 BTC [-]
18:54 mircea_popescu http://www.euronews.com/2013/10/04/students-strip-naked-to-protest-over-strict-new-dress-code-at-kaposvar-universit/
18:54 ozbot Students strip in protest over dress code at Kaposvar University in Hungary | euronews,
~ 20 minutes ~
19:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.04 BTC [+]
~ 22 minutes ~
19:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1009 @ 0.00124158 = 1.2528 BTC [-] {2}
19:37 kakobrekla parseval, bgupta one of you ping me
19:43 kakobrekla ;;ticker
19:44 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.00000, Best ask: 137.59000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59000, Last trade: 136.98000, 24 hour volume: 17840.08699449, 24 hour low: 128.50000, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 134.78478
~ 26 minutes ~
20:10 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9825 @ 0.00023995 = 2.3575 BTC [-] {2}
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.96410008 = 21.2102 BTC [-] {4}
20:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2237 @ 0.0008746 = 1.9565 BTC [-] {2}
~ 18 minutes ~
20:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.06999999 = 5.35 BTC [+] {2}
20:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.07377999 = 10.7378 BTC [+] {2}
20:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.94000001 = 3.76 BTC [-] {2}
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.98000001 = 3.92 BTC [+] {2}
21:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-]
21:05 jborkl Wow so there was a 7000 btc bet that list on just dice
21:05 jborkl Lost
21:07 pankkake well, I'm still way down
21:07 pankkake need more idiots!
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-]
21:07 kakobrekla !jd
21:07 assbot Just-Dice stat: 535 BTC profit, 52.2k BTC invested, 153.29 mio bets, 3.94 mio BTC wagered
21:08 kakobrekla 50k eh
21:08 kakobrekla two wheelbarrows and a half
21:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [-] {2}
21:14 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 39 @ 0.00337102 = 0.1315 BTC [-] {3}
21:15 chsados FEDS say they are going to "liquidate" DPR's bitcoins http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/04/fbi-silk-road-bitcoin-seizure/?utm_campaign=forbestwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
21:16 VanCleef quick drop the price to $50
21:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00900102 = 1.3772 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 22 @ 0.00812 = 0.1786 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 14 @ 0.035 = 0.49 BTC [-]
21:18 pankkake market sell 26000
21:18 pankkake ;;market sell 26000
21:18 gribble A market order to sell 26000 bitcoins right now would net 3239896.0492 USD and would take the last price down to 114.3095 USD, resulting in an average price of 124.6114 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 15.9039 seconds
21:18 pankkake nope.avi
21:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1 = 18 BTC [-]
21:22 thestringpuller ;;ticker
21:22 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.44499, Best ask: 137.45000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00501, Last trade: 137.45000, 24 hour volume: 16088.60262100, 24 hour low: 131.52000, 24 hour high: 139.80000, 24 hour vwap: 135.42569
21:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.9853 = 1.9706 BTC [-]
21:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.981 = 9.81 BTC [+]
21:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.1346 = 0.2692 BTC [+]
~ 22 minutes ~
21:45 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5337 @ 0.00023997 = 1.2807 BTC [-] {2}
21:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2117 @ 0.0002487 = 0.5265 BTC [+]
21:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
21:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00858966 = 0.2663 BTC [-] {8}
21:53 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 200 @ 0.00621 = 1.242 BTC [-]
21:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.005 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 48 @ 0.00510025 = 0.2448 BTC [-] {2}
~ 37 minutes ~
22:36 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 883 @ 0.0002487 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
22:37 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2200 @ 0.0002489 = 0.5476 BTC [+]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.07999997 = 2.16 BTC [+]
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.00996352 = 0.7174 BTC [+] {4}
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2600 @ 0.00019891 = 0.5172 BTC [+] {3}
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1114 @ 0.000199 = 0.2217 BTC [+]
22:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
22:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00020503 = 0.1025 BTC [-] {2}
22:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.006 = 2.012 BTC [+]
22:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.01 = 18.18 BTC [+]
22:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00940001 = 0.2914 BTC [-]
23:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
23:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30000004 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:47 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.00024902 = 3.2373 BTC [+] {4}
23:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 550 @ 0.000254 = 0.1397 BTC [+]
23:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [+]
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00602 = 0.602 BTC [-]
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