Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-10-02 | 2013-10-04 → ↓
00:00 kakobrekla electro popy
00:00 kakobrekla electro pop is (Y)
00:00 Vexual my mouth goes ooo
00:02 Vexual because i got to
00:03 Vexual now jazz
00:03 Vexual oh no oh yes
00:03 VanCleef jewtube and jewbook
00:04 Vexual this is why europe is best rope
00:07 Vexual so many forgotten house tracks, and so many of them emorable
00:08 Vexual le roland
00:08 Vexual manufique
00:08 thestringpuller 10 DOOBIES TO THE FACE NIGGA FUCK DAT
00:08 thestringpuller jazz is the greatest genre of all time
00:08 thestringpuller cause murica is da beeeestest
00:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00978999 = 0.3916 BTC [+]
00:12 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs
00:12 ozbot Dave Brubeck - Take Five - YouTube
00:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00091611 = 2.6109 BTC [-] {3}
00:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 755 @ 0.00091352 = 0.6897 BTC [-]
00:25 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2K-tENbs2Q
00:25 ozbot Armand Van Helden feat. Tara McDonald - My My My - YouTube
00:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00092088 = 0.7367 BTC [+]
00:30 Vexual wake up mircea
00:33 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo
00:33 ozbot Eric Clapton- Cocaine - YouTube
00:37 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskztPPSJwY
00:37 ozbot L. A. Woman - The Doors - YouTube
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170 @ 0.00092088 = 0.1565 BTC [+]
00:46 bloctoc is there a way to bloc Vexual from my internet?
00:48 Vexual you can pay your dues like the others do
00:49 Vexual (im just mp crew)
00:53 dub bloctoc: hit up SR for a contract killing
00:53 Vexual careful now dub
00:55 bloctoc unfortunately I hit up Ross Ulbricht for some bitcoins a couple of months ago at the buttonwood meetup. I sent my name and address to his gmail account. Waiting for a knock on the door any minute...
00:55 dub ouch
00:56 bloctoc I never even heard of SR until just now when you brought it up.
00:58 Vexual better call saul
00:58 phish there's nothign illegal about buying bitcoins
01:02 bloctoc phish then I guess I'm good. see all y'all at buttonwood on Thursday
01:02 Vexual no but if you've bheen naughty its really time to lawyer up, sorry to be the bearer of bad news
01:04 phish if they do knock on yoru door, just ask for a lawyer as vex said ;)
01:05 Vexual yeah but when you're in custody they dont let you google to find the best dude
01:07 bloctoc so, saul is the best dude?
01:10 Vexual luke jr unaffected
01:12 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAVhKjsImeI
01:12 ozbot Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival - YouTube
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-]
01:18 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm8ClRnVxtE
01:18 ozbot stereo mcs- connected - YouTube
01:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95013333 = 2.8504 BTC [+] {2}
01:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.96335624 = 15.4137 BTC [+] {4}
01:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.9611 = 18.2609 BTC [-]
01:23 Vexual guten morgan smidge, im audi
01:23 Vexual ciao
01:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 580 @ 0.00092132 = 0.5344 BTC [+]
01:29 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 32 @ 0.00538293 = 0.1723 BTC [+] {2}
01:30 smidge hi
01:30 smidge :)
01:32 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.006781 = 0.6781 BTC [+]
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.006781 = 0.6781 BTC [+]
01:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 920 @ 0.00091655 = 0.8432 BTC [-]
01:39 bloctoc I hope the next silk road only takes ripple (XRP) since it's so fast clearing transactions
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01:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2473 @ 0.00092578 = 2.2895 BTC [+] {3}
01:57 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 445 @ 0.001368 = 0.6088 BTC [-]
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02:27 bgupta any word on why bitcointalk has been down for an extended period?
02:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00092771 = 1.3916 BTC [+]
02:28 Diablo-D3 bgupta: check your email
02:29 bgupta Diablo-D3: nothing related.
02:30 bgupta nvm. found this https://twitter.com/bitcointalk
02:32 bgupta and http://cryptolife.net/bitcointalk-hacked/
02:33 Diablo-D3 bgupta: you might not have gotten it yet
02:33 Diablo-D3 but there was a break in
02:33 Diablo-D3 and a reminder to change your password when it gets back
02:34 bgupta does the email indicate how much longer it will be down?
02:35 Diablo-D3 no.
02:39 Diablo-D3 https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/85dc5cccf8c6
02:40 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.04345 = 2.1725 BTC [+]
02:49 thestringpuller The consultant
02:49 thestringpuller Diablo-D3: what do you even do where is the 1 billion dollar plan you were enacting
02:50 thestringpuller /trolltrolltroll
02:51 Diablo-D3 thestringpuller: trying to secure funding for it.
02:55 mircea_popescu dude bitcoin was totally dependent on sr. har har.
02:57 Diablo-D3 thestringpuller: Im actually thinking about doing this bottom up instead of top down
03:03 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 490 @ 0.005383 = 2.6377 BTC [+]
03:05 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 31 @ 0.005384 = 0.1669 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7400 @ 0.00020279 = 1.5006 BTC [+] {7}
03:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.0002185 = 0.1311 BTC [+]
03:07 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 170 @ 0.00135 = 0.2295 BTC [-]
03:08 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/smg-september-2013-statement/
03:08 ozbot S.MG, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
03:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0099 = 0.8811 BTC [+]
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04:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00092419 = 2.5877 BTC [-] {2}
04:17 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/
04:17 ozbot I was right, you were wrong. Again. Feel the burn. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 990 @ 0.00092443 = 0.9152 BTC [+]
04:31 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 400 @ 0.005384 = 2.1536 BTC [+]
04:35 mircea_popescu o hey, retardstalk got owned ?
04:36 ColdHardMetal that's the word on the street.
04:37 mircea_popescu i thought you had admin there ? wha happened ?
04:38 ColdHardMetal who? me? no.
04:38 mircea_popescu a ok.
04:38 mircea_popescu weak avatar uploading script it seems.
04:39 ColdHardMetal something like that. they were talking about it on reddit.
04:40 phish .d
04:41 ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 641 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.8042% in 3d 10h 25m 11s
04:41 mircea_popescu "Update: It's unfortunately worse than I thought. There's a good chance that the attacker(s) could have executed arbitrary PHP code and therefore could have accessed the database, but I'm not sure yet how difficult this would be. I'm sending out a mass mailing to all Forum users about this."
04:41 mircea_popescu herp.
04:42 mircea_popescu Figuring out the specifics is probably beyond my skills, so 50 BTC to the first person who tells me how this was done. (You have to convince me that your flaw was the one actually used.) The forum won't go back up until I know how this was done, so it could be down for a while.
04:42 dub i hope they deleted the data and phantomcircuit was handling backups
04:42 mircea_popescu i guess this is for the best.
04:47 VanCleef i hope everything was salted
04:47 mircea_popescu passwords were apparently reasonably secure. nothing else obviously. i guess i'll get spam about buying btctalk pms now on top of everythinfg else.
04:52 VanCleef useless pricks
04:52 mircea_popescu funny thing is there was like what, 10k btc in the "donations to improve forum" stash
04:56 jurov https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf if i read this correctly, feds hooked DPR to ask for murder?
04:57 mircea_popescu jurov you saw original complaint ?
04:58 San1ty Hello
04:58 San1ty wow btc-talk offline?
04:58 mircea_popescu (the one this is superseeding)
04:58 mircea_popescu San1ty haxed.
04:58 mircea_popescu won't be back for a while.
04:58 San1ty mircea_popescu: Wow, for a while? Not so easy to fix?
04:58 jurov yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder
04:58 mircea_popescu theymos is suspicious or something
04:59 mircea_popescu jurov o yeah ?!
04:59 mircea_popescu haha the plot thickens.
04:59 mircea_popescu i wonder why go about it in this strange manner.
04:59 Apocalyptic <jurov> yes and here it is said straightly that the UC (undercover capacity) sent him fake photo of the murder // wtf
05:00 jurov Apocalyptic: https://ia601904.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311/gov.uscourts.mdd.238311.4.0.pdf
05:00 Apocalyptic downloading now, seems farfetched to me
05:00 jurov hardly, they elaborate on whole process
05:00 mircea_popescu so did the first guy that drafted the first ocmplaint not know about this ?
05:00 jurov seems so
05:00 mircea_popescu as in, fbi AND dea were doing it ?
05:00 mircea_popescu haha poor guy.
05:01 jurov inception
05:02 mircea_popescu he's fucked, basically. he will ge consecutive life terms, and he'll serve it in the high security ward
05:02 mircea_popescu ie, with all the ACTUAL drug lords.
05:02 VanCleef no he wont
05:02 VanCleef he will cut a deal and snitch on everyone
05:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00028849 = 0.2885 BTC [+]
05:05 truffles soo is entrapment legal everywhere?
05:05 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-september-2013-statement/
05:05 ozbot BitBet, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
05:05 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^
05:05 mircea_popescu VanCleef deal to what ?
05:06 mircea_popescu nah, im affraid they're making an example of him.
05:06 mircea_popescu remember that kid that killed himself over whatever downloads ?
05:08 jurov mircea_popescu and did you pay mpoe divs already? i saw nothing
05:08 mircea_popescu not yet no.
05:09 mircea_popescu it's getting done this week.
05:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.001214 = 0.1457 BTC [+]
05:10 San1ty did anyone already get a notification from TaT about their neobee transfer?
05:11 mircea_popescu nice find that indictment jurov. basically in the spring of 2013 silkroad was struggling to push 1kg of coke,
05:11 mircea_popescu to the degree they ended up buying it themselves.
05:11 mircea_popescu fucking ridiculous.
05:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 310 @ 0.00092443 = 0.2866 BTC [+]
05:20 jurov imagine if it comes out that large part of sr volume was between various TLAs
05:20 mircea_popescu seems likely at this point.
05:20 mircea_popescu fbi made > 100 purchases of dea stuff
05:21 mircea_popescu anyway, i updated my article from yest. the entire lulz angle isn't quite as adequate nao.
05:23 mircea_popescu holy shit HE WIRED MONEY
05:24 mircea_popescu omfg.
05:24 mircea_popescu this kid wired 40k usd to a capital one account in payment for a murder for hire to some guy he met on the internet
05:25 mircea_popescu i need the rest of the day off here.
05:25 Apocalyptic o;g
05:25 Apocalyptic unreal
05:25 Apocalyptic kid was a fucking joke
05:25 truffles sometimes (many times) nerds lack the common sense u know
05:26 VanCleef lol
05:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-]
05:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9614 BTC [+]
05:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.9613 = 3.8452 BTC [-]
05:43 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.04353 = 0.1306 BTC [+]
05:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2429 @ 0.00018705 = 0.4543 BTC [-] {2}
05:47 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7571 @ 0.00018248 = 1.3816 BTC [-] {4}
06:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00123499 = 0.247 BTC [+] {3}
06:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 884 @ 0.00126079 = 1.1145 BTC [+] {3}
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06:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00092762 = 2.4118 BTC [+]
06:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 707 @ 0.001217 = 0.8604 BTC [-]
06:31 dexX7 btctalk bounty still unclaimed?
06:31 dexX7 those guys are hillarious
06:31 dexX7 "special message from satoshi" -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw
06:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.01 = 1.57 BTC [+] {2}
06:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 667 @ 0.001217 = 0.8117 BTC [-]
06:52 mod6 ;;bc,stats
06:52 gribble Current Blocks: 261454 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 625 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 182871611.889 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.88173
07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00092762 = 1.7625 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0009296 = 4.741 BTC [+] {3}
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07:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 845 @ 0.0009305 = 0.7863 BTC [+]
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08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5299 @ 0.00092762 = 4.9155 BTC [-]
08:03 kleeck http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53166048/#53170418
08:03 ozbot Raw: Suspect beats up 75-year-old man - Video on NBCNews.com
08:03 kleeck WTF ozbot? That's not the content.
08:09 josh16 mircea_popescu why didn't the price crash like a motherfucker, what do you think?
08:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0009305 = 3.9081 BTC [+]
08:19 josh16 cause SR was <5% of the Bitcoin economy?
08:21 VanCleef 80% of all bitcoin buying demand
08:21 gecko_x2 bitcointalk down?
08:21 dexX7 www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VYiTs34s <<
08:22 Graet http://cryptolife.net/bitcointalk-hacked/
08:22 dexX7 + http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nmdq4/bitcointalk_hacked/ccjyjti
08:22 gecko_x2 lol dexX7
08:22 gecko_x2 thx
08:23 gecko_x2 hehehe
08:24 gecko_x2 lol this vid
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0009305 = 3.4429 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.91976963 = 26.6733 BTC [-] {10}
09:03 deadweasel lol Graet, the question is, how many times has it already happened?
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09:27 Graet bitcointalk hacked? this is about the 3rd time i remember
09:27 nubbins` hi
09:28 Graet funny how a decentralised currency relies so heavily on 1 forum :P
09:28 nubbins` hey, there's reddit
09:28 nubbins` ;p
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.8983846 = 14.3742 BTC [-] {4}
09:30 nubbins` anyway, death of tom clancy is obv related to both btctalk being down and dpr derping himself into custody
09:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00978546 = 0.6458 BTC [-] {9}
09:30 kleeck also the Tattis.
09:30 kleeck and Armond
09:30 kleeck and Nefario
09:31 kleeck and, of course, 9/11 which is tied to the Holocaust.
09:31 dexX7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2meowzEwIdw
09:32 ozbot Meteors Destroy Big Ben - YouTube
09:32 dexX7 it is all connected >D
09:32 kleeck lol
09:32 kleeck favorite comment, "fake"
09:33 kleeck Meteorite deniers are the worst.
09:33 dexX7 that's "the special message from satoshi" to the btctalk users :S
09:36 nubbins` lel
09:36 nubbins` obv fake!
09:37 nubbins` considering opening a site called the Milk Road
09:37 nubbins` where vendors sell molokosynthemesc
09:38 nubbins` and related substances
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00959075 = 0.7673 BTC [-] {4}
09:49 VanCleef Tom Clancy new book was on SR
10:03 thestringpuller I can't believe DPR was operation out of the US
10:03 thestringpuller so dumb
10:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 757 @ 0.00019786 = 0.1498 BTC [+] {2}
10:10 Rawted lol im just reading about it too.
10:10 Rawted ]he sure talked a big game
10:10 Rawted bitcoiners, meh
10:11 nubbins` heh
10:12 nubbins` heavy lels when i read that his $80k "clean hit" was staged by the feds
10:12 nubbins` what a fucking dummy
10:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.00092691 = 4.3741 BTC [-] {2}
10:12 Rawted lol ya
10:13 nubbins` and so hubris and vainglory became his undoing
10:13 nubbins` real libertarian hero
10:13 nubbins` ordering beatings and assassinations
10:13 Rawted and on top of the murder for hire, this dumbass then buys a few dozen fake ids from the guy doing the hit, and bam, they can now match his known picture with the one used for the IDs
10:13 nubbins` yeah
10:13 nubbins` getting shit mailed to his house
10:13 Rawted and in the end, he was just some holier than thou hipster
10:13 nubbins` like...
10:13 Rawted its amusing
10:14 nubbins` half the people buying on SR took more precautions than he did
10:14 jcpham i think it's funny because the criminal is being criticized by criminals
10:14 nubbins` everybody is a criminal
10:14 nubbins` you, me, everyone
10:14 jcpham i'm not disagreeing
10:15 nubbins` well, who else would he be criticized by? there's nobody left
10:15 jcpham what is crime?
10:16 nubbins` what is reality?
10:16 Rawted wow, he ssh'd directly into the site to admin it from a internet cafe
10:16 Rawted lmao
10:16 Rawted let's see $16/btc again please
10:16 jcpham these labcoin explanation threads on reddit are also funny
10:16 nubbins` wishful thinking
10:16 kakobrekla >Well at least BitBet did better than BTCtalk and Silk Road this month. I blame the Somalian.
10:16 kakobrekla im fucked till i die.
10:16 nubbins` the price of BTC dipped for what, a couple hours?
10:17 Rawted the whales can only hold the market up for so long
10:18 nubbins` UH.
10:18 nubbins` havelock:
10:18 nubbins` There are insufficient funds in the Hot Wallet to process your withdraw. The site operators have been notified of your request and will move Bitcoins from Cold Storage. Please try your withdraw again after 1 full business day.
10:18 Rawted everyone cashing out
10:18 nubbins` fffffff....
10:18 nubbins` never trust another human with your money
10:27 nubbins` "I have gone through the mental exercise of spending a lifetime in prison and of dying for this cause. I have let the fear pass through me and with clarity commit myself fully to the mission and values outlined in the Silk Road charter."
10:27 nubbins` lel
10:28 nubbins` don't worry guys, he THOUGHT about spending 60 years in jail and decided it's no biggie
10:29 kakobrekla where is that from nubbins`
10:29 nubbins` http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/virtual-black-market-atlantis-walks.html
10:29 ozbot Activist Post: Virtual black market Atlantis walks the plank, Dread Pirate Roberts humbled
10:30 nubbins` that was from like 2 weeks ago
10:30 kakobrekla ah
10:30 kakobrekla k
10:30 nubbins` would be interesting to see if he still holds those beliefs
10:31 Rulother strange seeing havelock out number btct in trades
10:32 nubbins` strange seeing them run out of BTC to cover withdrawals too
10:33 Rawted btct is shutting down, no?
10:33 nubbins` yes
10:33 nubbins` oct 7?
10:34 Rawted lots of bad stuff happening to btc
10:34 nubbins` man. i called my bank today to see about opening a safety deposit box
10:34 nubbins` they said
10:34 nubbins` and i'm not shitting you
10:34 nubbins` that they couldn't open the box that has all their keys in it
10:34 nubbins` and so i'd have to wait until monday
10:34 Rawted lol
10:35 nubbins` "so safe that not even YOU can access it"
10:35 kakobrekla 't
10:36 nubbins` ;;seen chaangnoi
10:36 gribble chaangnoi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <ChaangNoi> sorry for double post i fail at irc
10:36 nubbins` ;;seen chaang-noi
10:36 gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <chaang-noi> TOM FORD
10:44 asciilifeform http://techliberation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SilkRoadProtectiveOrder.pdf
10:46 Namworld lol
10:46 Namworld SR, now Bitcointalk.org
10:49 VanCleef gov is going through everyones messages and pm's n that
10:49 VanCleef should we be worried?
10:49 VanCleef or are they just looking for people who used sr?
10:50 zoinky ?
10:50 zoinky what makes you say that
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1587 @ 0.00127999 = 2.0313 BTC [+] {2}
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.85 = 18.7 BTC [-]
11:00 deadweasel messages were supposedly deleted after 30 days
11:00 deadweasel so if you didn't use cleartext for the couple months before they got it, you should be ok.
11:11 taub 3.6 million in bit coins that was held in escrow
11:11 taub so the us gov just got 1/7th of all bitcoins?
11:12 Namworld Bitcointalk.org will be back
11:13 Graet yep, got eta tho?
11:14 zoinky taub, they have 3.6 million USD worth of bitcoin
11:16 Namworld btct.co isn't available either, lol
11:16 Rulother I can use btct
11:17 Namworld I get "Error:
11:17 Namworld Xcoind backend failure at 135
11:17 Namworld whenever I try and open any page
11:19 taub aight zoinky
11:19 taub that makes more sense
11:21 Rulother Well I can go through the site but can't make any trades
11:21 plambert I was just using btct, works for me
11:21 Rulother If that makes you feel any better :)
11:23 plambert nevermind, I see the failure message when i try to buy
11:28 plambert Is labcoin still a scam?
11:31 Rulother Could be, we're working on getting more information out Sam/Labcoin and trying to get things moving onto BF
11:31 Rulother If anything more so a failed project
11:31 plambert this might sound like a silly queston, but on Havelock, where do you go to change your password?
11:37 samson_ I was reading on the silk road forums today, interesting stuff. Someone else got arrested in the UK. Someone who sells packaging supplies to silk roaders....It could be argued that selling packaging containers is not illegal but they arrested him and stole his computer anyway.
11:37 zoinky he also sold seeds
11:37 zoinky but thats not illegal either is it?
11:38 samson_ I don't think so, not in the UK anyway
11:39 zoinky http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nmfam/possible_first_raid_on_a_vendor/
11:39 ozbot Possible first raid on a vendor : SilkRoad
11:41 samson_ yes, that's the same one from the forum
11:41 samson_ They're looking for his customer list by the looks of it. He's out on bail already according to the forum
11:42 zoinky nuts im sure more arrests will happen
11:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00093002 = 2.9761 BTC [+]
11:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.87 = 2.61 BTC [+]
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00290101 = 0.2959 BTC [-]
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00944782 = 0.822 BTC [-] {7}
11:51 VanCleef yeeeeeeh my nicca posted bail
11:51 VanCleef give em hell pirate
11:51 zoinky ?
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00290002 = 0.3248 BTC [-] {2}
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1139 @ 0.0029 = 3.3031 BTC [-] {3}
11:55 deadweasel I don't see my name in the btctalk dump: http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H
11:57 kakobrekla only 5k there
11:57 San1ty I forget the spam email I used on bitcointalk :D
11:57 San1ty I don't know if I'm on there :p
11:58 zoinky where'd that get leaked from
11:59 Rulother I'm not on there
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-]
12:00 kakobrekla only 5k users there
12:00 kakobrekla cant you read
12:01 Rulother No
12:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.0009303 = 2.6514 BTC [+]
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+]
12:11 Rawted so what's keeping btc up? what are people spending their btc on now?
12:11 Rawted i have to be honest, i always thought that if the silk road place went down, bitcoin would go with it, as i simply dont see enough commerce available.
12:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00093002 = 1.6275 BTC [-]
12:13 kakobrekla Rawted http://trilema.com/2013/i-was-right-you-were-wrong-again-feel-the-burn/
12:16 jcpham jcpham@tiscali.it
12:16 jcpham SO MUCH ROFFL
12:17 Apocalyptic heh
12:17 pankkake .it => scammer
12:17 jcpham it's not even me
12:18 jcpham frankly i see a lot of important names though
12:19 jcpham fo sho
12:19 jcpham i say targeted list
12:22 zoinky Rawted, i imagine the silkroad community is hooked and just looking for alternatives.
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1405 @ 0.00127999 = 1.7984 BTC [-] {2}
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00128 = 0.32 BTC [+]
12:24 asciilifeform http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/lavabit_unsealed/
12:24 ozbot Edward Snowden's E-Mail Provider Defied FBI Demands to Turn Over Crypto Keys, Documents Show | Threa
12:25 nubbins` hi
12:27 afrotec Levison is the man
12:30 kakobrekla also FBI doesnt know how to use a scanner
12:31 kakobrekla i mean shit, its same way i store my privates
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00092926 = 1.8121 BTC [-] {2}
12:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00093095 = 0.9775 BTC [+]
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00127 = 0.127 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00093095 = 2.1877 BTC [+]
12:50 nubbins` i store my privates in a jar on my wife's nightstand
12:53 mjoiii_ I store my privates in my wife
12:53 mjoiii_ From time to time
12:54 KRS-1 me too.
12:54 KRS-1 Thank you for that.
12:54 mjoiii_ Yeah thought I'd share
12:54 KRS-1 Sharing is caring.
12:55 mjoiii_ Oh shit over my head... You bastard!
12:56 kakobrekla i keep my privates encrypted and printed on paper on location A and B, and the key to unlock those in location C and D
12:56 nubbins` oh, shit, we're talking about keys!
12:56 nubbins` lel, so embarassed, &c
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00999899 = 0.4999 BTC [+] {2}
13:06 b0n1 http://pastebin.com/6S2H21eF
13:06 ozbot bitcointalk.org db dump (150k records) - Pastebin.com
13:07 ieatcows yikes
13:07 kakobrekla prolly faek
13:08 Rannasha Hmm.. I'm disappointed that they guy didn't even send 2-3 BTC transactions to that address to at least make it appear as if people are taking the offer
13:08 Rannasha The BTC address has not seen any transactions.
13:08 pankkake e-mails and hashed passwords? pretty much useless
13:08 nubbins` yep
13:08 nubbins` why the fuck would anyone buy that?
13:09 pankkake spammers buy e-mail lists
13:09 kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/qTuekr3b
13:09 ozbot bitcointalk.org db dump with over 150K emails and hashed passwords; get a pri - Pastebin.com
13:09 nubbins` but for 25 BTC?
13:10 pankkake probably not
13:10 nubbins` that's almost 2 cents per email!
13:10 nubbins` highway robbery
13:10 pankkake and the mtgox mails are already a good db for bticoin spams
13:10 kakobrekla at that time their db was small
13:13 jcpham but can't i just watch that address and mitm the list now
13:13 jcpham when someone pays him, email him and say it was me
13:13 jcpham i bet he challenges it wanting something signed too
13:13 nubbins` no doubt
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.14299996 = 0.286 BTC [+]
13:18 robitnik anyone heard from burnside? no trading on btct.co for 7 hours.
13:18 b0n1 https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11
13:18 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11
13:19 nubbins` seems legit, i will send all my coins there
13:19 nubbins` 1 sec
13:22 afrotec plunge when it comes back i bet
13:24 Rulother Yeah not looking forward to that
13:24 Rulother Does anyone remember btct's address? btc addy
13:24 afrotec *if it comes back
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11000 @ 0.00027999 = 3.0799 BTC [-] {3}
13:26 jborkl i guess we are all going to have to move over to Yahoo message board
13:27 Rulother For the amount of trolls on btctalk, wouldn't 4chan be better?
13:28 lewicki .d
13:28 ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 562 blocks | Estimated Change: 24.1651% in 2d 22h 44m 56s
13:29 nubbins` gold coins vs gold wafers, any thoughts?
13:30 Rulother gold waffles?
13:30 nubbins` the fuck
13:30 nubbins` someone in #bitcoin suggested gold pancakes
13:30 nubbins` you guise! :(
13:32 Rulother The Flap Jack Miner 2000
13:33 jborkl you know this shows I am old or something. I have never been to 4chan
13:33 Rulother 4chan is pretty old, but don't worry it's a silly place
13:34 Rulother It's mainly Troll HQ
13:34 jborkl I am not much into reading troll, I can't even stand -otc
13:35 nubbins` -otc is generally teenagers trying to buy and sell btc through the most arcane, convoluted means possible
13:35 nubbins` at least, that's what i gather
13:35 Rulother It can be amusing to read sometimes, they will hijack (not hack) several voting events like I believe the Hijacked Justin Bieber's voting page once on his site with "Where should Justin go next?" And had all the members vote for North Korea
13:36 jborkl yeah or they are mentally challenged, one of the two
13:36 afrotec hahaha i love when they do that. theres a lot of followers, can be a powerful force
13:36 ieatcows whats the deal with ADDICTION? they getting some miners soon?
13:37 jborkl I did very much enjoy the mac webkit error that kicked you off IRC
13:37 nubbins` webkit ftw
13:38 nubbins` it's my favourite rendering engine!
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00093135 = 1.2108 BTC [+]
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1770 @ 0.00022701 = 0.4018 BTC [-]
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6778 @ 0.00022701 = 1.5387 BTC [-] {3}
~ 36 minutes ~
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5407 @ 0.00022701 = 1.2274 BTC [-]
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00027999 = 0.14 BTC [+]
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00934878 = 3.2534 BTC [-] {21}
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00093135 = 2.1421 BTC [+]
14:39 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
14:39 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.01000, Best ask: 130.10398, Bid-ask spread: 0.09398, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 65013.66466618, 24 hour low: 118.23000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 126.12904
14:41 lewicki .d
14:42 ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 556 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8005% in 2d 22h 29m 6s
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00812253 = 0.1625 BTC [-] {2}
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 525 @ 0.00123857 = 0.6502 BTC [-] {6}
14:46 plambert is btct working yet?
14:48 plambert nope, still has error message
14:49 zoinky ?
14:49 zoinky im on btct
14:49 dexX7 try to buy/sell ... won't work
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00801308 = 0.2644 BTC [-] {2}
14:50 zoinky ah
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00800003 = 0.224 BTC [-]
14:51 plambert anybody know how to contact burnsides to get btct back up again?
14:51 kakobrekla call 080-NEFARIOUS
14:51 imsaguy wasn't that in the announcement?
14:51 imsaguy that on a certain date, trading would stop?
14:52 plambert did you see the news that the helpline for ObamaCare is 1-800-F1U-CKYO ?
14:53 plambert imsaguy - I thought trading went until the 7th?
14:53 imsaguy I don't know the date.
14:53 imsaguy I don't use the exchange.
14:53 imsaguy I'm just going based on what I can remember from what I read.
14:53 plambert "October 7, 2013, all forms of secondary market trading will be halted on both sites" from the website
14:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00093352 = 4.0141 BTC [+] {4}
14:55 plambert what's the number in the curly braces at the end of the ticker mean?
14:56 Rannasha the number of trades that were condensed into the single report
14:56 Rannasha so the last report means that 4 trades were executed, totalling 4300 shares, average price of 0.00093352
14:56 dexX7 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Hacker-Claims-He-s-Selling-Data-Stolen-from-Bitcointalk-org-for-25BTC-Exclusive-388252.shtml
14:59 plambert damn hackers
14:59 jurov is he selling deleted posts, too? would buy for lulz
15:01 plambert Are the passwords each hashed individually, or once he breaks the encryption for one he can read all of them?
15:02 dexX7 http://pastebin.com/4Hf37D9H the sample
15:02 ozbot bitcoin***.org - Pastebin.com
15:02 kakobrekla plambert no
15:02 plambert no what?
15:02 jurov that's question for theymos... if he used standard salted hashes then only easy passwords can be cracked
15:03 dexX7 "Passwords are hashed using sha256crypt with 7500 rounds (very strong)"
15:03 Diablo-D3 the email answered it anyhow
15:03 Diablo-D3 yeah that
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4997 @ 0.00093611 = 4.6777 BTC [+] {2}
15:10 jurov eeeh? gonna increase my fat-finger-catch asks
15:11 jurov on s.mpoe
15:15 FabianB jurov: what are fat-finger-catch asks? for accidental buys?
15:16 jurov yes, if one places buy for s.mpoe at market place.. or puts decimal dot in wrong place
15:17 jurov happened serveral times on mpex already
15:17 FabianB jurov: yeah, but noticed it mostly downwards
15:18 jurov only 45k shares for sale atm
15:18 FabianB very thin, noone wants to sell
15:21 lewicki interested to see what becaomes of the 600,000 bitcoins
15:23 kakobrekla what if someone does that on coinbr
15:24 kakobrekla you gonna take the gap?
15:25 afrotec ;;me
15:25 gribble Error: "me" is not a valid command.
15:26 jurov kakobrekla: what exactly? putting in unfavorable price?
15:27 kakobrekla well
15:27 jurov it will still get dutifully placed on mpex and mpex will duly fill it and report cross-trade (an undocumented feature)
15:27 plambert say somebody says "sell at 0.0000001" and they actually sell at 0.001, do you credit them the 0.001 or the 0.0000001?
15:28 jurov no, i credit them real sell price
15:29 b0n1 https://blockchain.info/address/1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11 look at the notes... haha ;)
15:29 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1t4k5Y4NFFkvEAqBPymW2PDA5pZqiRm11
15:31 Rulother amazing
15:31 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
15:31 Rulother dammit
15:32 kakobrekla midge doesnt give a fuck.
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.9 = 2.7 BTC [-]
15:43 jurov ;;bc,convert eur
15:43 gribble 1 BTC = 130.12900 U.S. dollars = 96.2350244 Euros
15:43 jurov ;;seen davout
15:43 gribble davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <davout> mircea_popescu: there's still work to get everything smoothly running
15:43 jurov indeed...waiting almos a week for verfication
15:44 kakobrekla hm
15:45 kakobrekla yeah i might register as well there
15:45 kakobrekla since i ditched the two cans and a string exchange
15:47 jurov you weren't there before? my old account still works, just needs reverification
15:47 kakobrekla i wasnt
15:50 plambert looks like the price has pretty much bounced back from yesterday's "crash!!1! omg the sky is falling this is the end of bitcoins"
15:50 kakobrekla crackheads ran out of btc to sell
15:51 jurov plambert: i guess hedge fund managers used any panic sells to slightly improve their btc position
15:51 plambert Who here got the cheapest bitcoins? I got some for about 105
15:51 kakobrekla yea
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093429 = 0.654 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
16:10 gimme_bottles what's up with btc-tc? no trades in 10 hours
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
16:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0085 = 0.17 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0084956 = 0.2549 BTC [-] {3}
16:50 Kleeck_ .d
16:50 ozbot 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 539 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.9647% in 2d 20h 3m 30s
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2815 @ 0.00093429 = 2.63 BTC [-]
16:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4235 @ 0.0009366 = 3.9665 BTC [+] {2}
16:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00093073 = 2.2803 BTC [-] {2}
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 41 @ 0.00749975 = 0.3075 BTC [+] {2}
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3511 @ 0.0009376 = 3.2919 BTC [+] {2}
17:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 50 @ 0.04184159 = 2.0921 BTC [-] {8}
17:18 Rulother oooo
17:20 jurov ;;bc,stats
17:20 gribble Current Blocks: 261543 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 536 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 16 hours, 19 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 184354428.172 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.87812
17:20 jurov ;;calc 184*1.3
17:20 gribble 239.2
17:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1296 @ 0.00094023 = 1.2185 BTC [+]
17:29 kakobrekla !t h dealco
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK:DEALCO] 1D: 0.00749000 / 0.00749976 / 0.00750000 (41 shares, 0.30749000 BTC), 7D: 0.00420003 / 0.00514473 / 0.00969995 (573 shares, 2.94793246 BTC), 30D: 0.00300000 / 0.00938613 / 0.01525000 (10830 shares, 101.65180960 BTC)
17:30 tyrion70 Samuel Cole +46.732300149 Phone
17:30 tyrion70 :P
17:30 tyrion70 err… wrong screen :)
17:33 Rulother I see
17:38 heetch Trading is back on btct
17:38 heetch Go burnside
17:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00094023 = 0.2285 BTC [+]
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 43275 @ 0.0001956 = 8.4646 BTC [-] {22}
~ 15 minutes ~
18:04 mircea_popescu plambert> Are the passwords each hashed individually, or once he breaks the encryption for one he can read all of them? << they theoretically should use varied salts, but was no mention of that so prolly not.
18:05 mircea_popescu even so, having the salt helps but doesn
18:05 mircea_popescu 't make it trivial.
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.997 = 8.973 BTC [+]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 25 @ 0.00626996 = 0.1567 BTC [-] {2}
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 0.999 = 16.983 BTC [+] {2}
~ 18 minutes ~
18:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.999 = 5.994 BTC [+]
18:30 mircea_popescu In an interesting work-around, Levison complied the next day by turning over the private SSL keys as an 11 page printout in 4-point type. The government, not unreasonably, called the printout “illegible.”
18:30 mircea_popescu ahahaha asciilifeform
18:31 mircea_popescu this guy is some sort of contemporary hero already.
18:31 mircea_popescu we need a levison day.
18:31 mircea_popescu i guess june 28.
18:32 asciilifeform hope he's got the good sense to skip the country (or fellate his pistol) before they bring him in for the crime of closing his shop.
18:42 pankkake if they were any good, they probably could have brute-scanned the paper
18:42 pankkake you can actually recover blurred text easily
18:44 asciilifeform this is rather like that fellow who paid his tax bill with a wheelbarrow of pennies: not a real obstacle.
18:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.026 BTC [+]
18:47 mircea_popescu nah. it's the principle of the matter.
18:48 mircea_popescu the people dumping tea in the harbor did not measurably impact the british either.
18:48 pankkake yeah, but they hate disobedience
18:48 asciilifeform i dare say his pulling the plug was more significant re: disobedience
18:49 pankkake yes; it was the second step
18:51 mircea_popescu more effective, yes. more significant, no.
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 48 @ 0.42 = 20.16 BTC [-]
18:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4001 = 3.2008 BTC [-]
18:58 What was teh asicminer div yesterday?
18:59 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [+]
19:00 pankkake 0.08
19:00 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#338446
19:00 wow
19:00 ll .00800337
19:00 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:00 pankkake +0
19:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BMF] 40 @ 0.015 = 0.6 BTC [+]
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0009302 = 5.2091 BTC [-] {4}
19:03 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/why-june-28th-is-levison-day/
19:03 ozbot Why June 28th is Levison day pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
19:05 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 40 @ 0.00511 = 0.2044 BTC [-]
19:07 pankkake http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/10/03/221248/adobe-hacked-almost-3-million-accounts-compromised everyone hacked
19:07 ozbot Adobe Hacked: Almost 3 Million Accounts Compromised - Slashdot
19:07 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 173 @ 0.001188 = 0.2055 BTC [-]
19:08 assbot [BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 12 @ 0.014 = 0.168 BTC [-]
19:08 mircea_popescu adobe. good riddance.
19:08 pankkake http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/twitter-files-for-ipo-2/ "we're losing millions, let's IPO"
19:08 ozbot Twitter Files for IPO, Shows $317M in Revenue | Wired Business | Wired.com
19:09 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 89 @ 0.00320112 = 0.2849 BTC [+] {2}
19:09 mircea_popescu worked for fb...
19:09 pankkake I don't think fb was actually losing money
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20000 @ 0.0002 = 4 BTC [-]
19:11 mircea_popescu you kidding right ?
19:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1300 @ 0.0002 = 0.26 BTC [-]
19:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.9802 = 4.901 BTC [-]
19:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.9802 = 8.8218 BTC [-] {2}
19:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.98 = 9.8 BTC [-]
19:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda funny how the original order was issued by the buchanan magistrate at 4pm, and before closing time (so within an hour ?) she was issuing forthwiths with handwritten admonitions.
19:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9665 BTC [-]
19:30 mircea_popescu basically they have this set of lackeys in the magistrature that do nothing all day except waiting for the phone to ring or what is it ?
19:31 mircea_popescu it brings to mind the case of the texas magistrate who had resolved motions the day they were filed and ruled within ten days or something,
19:31 mircea_popescu and then ditched any requests to explain whether he had modified his vacation in order to help out teh government.
19:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 0.9631 = 17.3358 BTC [-]
19:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00092803 = 1.5777 BTC [-]
19:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 22565 @ 0.00021659 = 4.8874 BTC [+] {12}
19:36 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 470 @ 0.0002186 = 0.1027 BTC [+] {2}
19:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.963 = 1.926 BTC [-]
19:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.9625 BTC [-]
19:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.96121999 = 19.2244 BTC [-] {5}
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.9611 = 5.7666 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.87817049 = 12.2944 BTC [-] {5}
19:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00092659 = 3.521 BTC [-] {3}
19:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1110 @ 0.00120085 = 1.3329 BTC [-] {5}
19:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 24 @ 0.39167083 = 9.4001 BTC [-] {3}
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00025196 = 0.6299 BTC [+] {4}
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 465 @ 0.00849991 = 3.9525 BTC [+] {2}
20:11 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4530 @ 0.0001861 = 0.843 BTC [-] {2}
20:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00017001 = 3.4002 BTC [-] {2}
20:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 804 @ 0.00093203 = 0.7494 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
20:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [+]
20:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 210 @ 0.0012 = 0.252 BTC [-] {2}
20:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 245 @ 0.0005 = 0.1225 BTC [+]
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [-] {2}
20:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00092915 = 1.9512 BTC [-]
20:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 508 @ 0.000926 = 0.4704 BTC [-]
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20:58 mircea_popescu Subject: SIMONS_SPAM USPS - Your package is available for pickup ( Parcel 492552468475 )
20:59 mircea_popescu dude how retarded can they get already.
20:59 mint whats up with petamine
21:02 mircea_popescu nothing ?
21:02 jborkl Just say no to pedo
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22:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/
22:55 ozbot So who’s running the Courts circus ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:55 mircea_popescu i muchly advised anyone interesting in mattering in bitcoin to read that whole thing.
22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 600 @ 0.0005 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
22:56 mircea_popescu let';s try again with better grammar.
22:56 mircea_popescu i muchly advise anyone interested in mattering in bitcoin to read that whole thing.
23:00 VanCleef i'm selling lube if anyone neeeds any for jail
23:00 asciilifeform VanCleef: make sure to also offer cyanide, for the Aaron Schwartz school of thought.
23:01 asciilifeform VanCleef: and 'arse safes' to secrete said cyanide in, a la Goering.
23:02 asciilifeform fun fact: you can see Herr Goering's actual arse safe in the 'spy museum' in Wash., DC.
23:02 dub fuck mattering, were just here to get rich from mining ponzis
23:03 dub and re: Schwartz, go go gadget darwin
23:03 asciilifeform dub: personally, I'd prefer the 'magic' tooth from Dune.
23:03 mircea_popescu dub that's a point.
23:04 mircea_popescu just building the crumb of trails for future mpoe-pr bitchslappings.
23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.91285714 = 6.39 BTC [+] {2}
23:04 mircea_popescu provided of course some retard venue will still exist in the future...
23:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2180 @ 0.00092365 = 2.0136 BTC [-] {2}
23:05 dub how sails the forum lulzboat?
23:05 dub I have no time for drama these days :(
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 770 @ 0.00092301 = 0.7107 BTC [-] {2}
23:06 mircea_popescu still down afaik
23:06 dub has the patented intersango 'we'll pay you to return our data' method brought a result
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 165 @ 0.00117077 = 0.1932 BTC [-] {5}
23:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aside from historical/nostalgic concerns, what would be the purpose of having the list of judges ?
23:08 mircea_popescu im pretty sure it will come out that the judges that play ball have about an order of magnitude better chances to progress.
23:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [+]
23:08 mircea_popescu whereas women that suck cock have a less than twice as better chances to progress.
23:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: seems like a foregone conclusion.
23:08 mircea_popescu documentation is documentation.
23:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: think of Soviet judges.
23:09 mircea_popescu i am certainly more interested in judges being raped by the usg than in secretaries being raped by their bosses.
23:10 mircea_popescu so correspondingly more resources should be directed to fight the former than the later, by a significant margin.
23:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not sure about how writing a list of modern-day Soviet (or otherwise) judges fights anything...
23:11 asciilifeform picture a list of Mexican policemen who forgo bribes. so what.
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 252 @ 0.00116102 = 0.2926 BTC [-] {3}
23:12 mircea_popescu so you have the list.
23:13 mircea_popescu society, at least the livable sort, is built from causes not towards effects.
23:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00996665 = 0.299 BTC [+] {2}
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23:13 mircea_popescu it matters not one whit what "benefit" your correct actions yield.
23:14 mircea_popescu at any rate, as far as i know the average grad student takes a few months to gather 25 btc in living grants/we, and if literate should be able to complete the task in that time.
23:14 asciilifeform I'm thinking also about the side-effects. Imagine printing a list of foot-dragging German judges in the '30s.
23:15 VanCleef the pirce is now at 133.7
23:16 mircea_popescu don't for a second imagine the bad boys don't keep that list.
23:16 mircea_popescu they have the time and inclination to compile tax harassment programmes for charities for chrissakes.
23:16 mircea_popescu this is merely a minute attempt to remedy an information imbalance.
23:17 asciilifeform Don't get me wrong, I'd love to read the result
23:17 mircea_popescu i'd love to see whether the numerous and very self-important "law blogs" get it or not and how long it takes them to.
23:17 asciilifeform these fellows will probably end up on some dour memorial plaque somewhere, maybe glued to the wall where the firing squad stood
23:18 mircea_popescu nobody's shooting any judges.
23:18 asciilifeform I was thinking of the 'good ones', if that wasn't clear
23:19 asciilifeform I'm rather pessimistic about their prospects in the far future, particularly the younger ones
23:19 asciilifeform where did Stalin put uncooperative judges?
23:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.9613 = 2.8839 BTC [-] {2}
23:21 asciilifeform I don't expect to grow old myself, and I'm not even remotely a judge. Dissenting or otherwise.
23:21 mircea_popescu listen, you take too much for granted.
23:21 mircea_popescu stalin was a man after my own heart. you can not find someone half stalin in the entire us today.
23:22 asciilifeform plenty of fellows with the inclinations, sans the gifts.
23:22 mircea_popescu yeah well...
23:23 mircea_popescu you know what, in russia cca 1930 there were a bunch of fuckwits with round glasses and a tufty chin beard.
23:23 mircea_popescu they didn't magically become trotsky.
23:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 573 @ 0.00115343 = 0.6609 BTC [-] {5}
23:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: do you remember Roland Freisler? perhaps he was the first truly modern judge.
23:24 mircea_popescu meanwhile the happy brigade has uncovered a bunch of negative reviews. seems this hilton guy is really very pro govt ?
23:24 Vexual uncooperative lawyers dont become judges
23:25 mircea_popescu i don't know what exactly is modern about him ? the rolls are full since at least the 1300s with the same type.
23:25 mircea_popescu court-ier.
23:25 mircea_popescu Vexual the strange thing is that in civil systems it's precisely the uncooperative lawyers that tend to become judges.
23:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: point. Bernard Gui & friends.
23:26 mircea_popescu basically the kids out of law school split in three groups : those who deal well with people, and they end up lawyers. those who have daddy issues, and they become das.
23:26 mircea_popescu finally those with neither quality. they end up judges.
23:29 asciilifeform I'd like to point out that we do not yet know how the Levison story ends.
23:29 mircea_popescu personally, i don't care how it ends.
23:29 mircea_popescu the man sent the 4 point 11 pages key.
23:29 Vexual at least we know paper wallets are safe
23:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.02 BTC [+]
23:30 mircea_popescu if sufficiently small :D
23:30 asciilifeform you know, if the key is genuine (no bits diddled) the inquisitor got much of what he wanted. safe to assume that every packet lavabit shat or ate in its entire life was recorded.
23:31 asciilifeform Levison quoted a rather high cost (several $k) for changing his SSL certs, so presumably he did not do it often.
23:32 mircea_popescu that's the other thing. what sort of braindamaged retard actually expects ssl to protect his email.
23:32 mircea_popescu well, other than snowden
23:32 asciilifeform that's a whole separate question
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23:36 asciilifeform there's also the issue of people who are literate enough to have some idea of what real security is, but not literate enough to practice it.
23:36 asciilifeform these just sit catatonically and don't do much of anything, i imagine
23:36 asciilifeform so we're left with the snowdens and ulbrichts (who become public fools) and the rest (who are invisible.)
23:37 mircea_popescu i still don't quite grasp this part.
23:37 asciilifeform think 'groklaw'
23:37 mircea_popescu so bradley manning, a total emo fuckwit, somehow managed to be a big honcho in us signals.
23:37 mircea_popescu but hey, shit happens, right ? his co was retarded.
23:37 asciilifeform manning was a grunt
23:37 asciilifeform with some janitorial keys
23:38 mircea_popescu dude, he had the stuff ? he was a big honcho.
23:38 mircea_popescu grunts do not get access to petabytes of crap
23:38 asciilifeform in the u.s., the way it works is that there's a 'secret' (vs. 'top', etc.) intranet
23:38 mircea_popescu moving on : snowden defects.
23:38 mircea_popescu apparently snowden does not know how to secure communications.
23:38 mircea_popescu yet he has enough data to bury another petreus.
23:38 mircea_popescu what the fuck is going on over there, those people been turned to monkeys or something ?
23:39 asciilifeform it is possible that he did know. but was forced to deal with people who don't
23:39 mircea_popescu heh. nobody's forced.
23:39 asciilifeform there is some record that he tried to persuade the journalists to use gpg
23:39 mircea_popescu anyway, if this had happened in 1973 the russians would have finished all the vodka and died of split sides.
23:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dude, srsly. you're a field agent and you "try to" persuade ?
23:40 mircea_popescu in what parallel universe is this going on.
23:40 asciilifeform point. betcha the Brits finished all the Lagavulin when Mitrokhin split with his treasure chest.
23:40 Vexual we wouldn't have heard about it in 73
23:40 mircea_popescu Vexual depends on your definition of we.
23:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00093203 = 3.4951 BTC [+] {2}
23:40 Vexual the internet et all
23:40 mircea_popescu well obviously, as it diodn't exist in 73.
23:41 Vexual no
23:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: have you considered the 'mr. s. is a disinfo agent' hypothesis?
23:41 mircea_popescu sure.
23:42 asciilifeform he needn't be aware of the fact, either
23:42 mircea_popescu certainly.
23:42 asciilifeform easy to set things up so some fool walks off with 'everything he wants'
23:42 mircea_popescu but mind you, my discussion is purely procedural.
23:42 mircea_popescu whether he in fact is a defector or a mole, intentional or not,
23:42 mircea_popescu the story still goes the way describe it.
23:43 mircea_popescu in short, whether the gas station theft was genuine or staged,
23:43 mircea_popescu the guy still can't drive.
23:43 asciilifeform AFAIK, the only reason i have to consider the 'disinfo' hypothesis is the actual effects of the circus
23:43 mircea_popescu what i want to know is why the us signals corps is made out of monkeys!
23:43 mircea_popescu it's a disgrace, they'll get cut out of nato meetings at this rate
23:43 mircea_popescu the way the french were in the 70s.
23:43 asciilifeform the lusers driven off lavabit likely won't be using gpg, they'll be dropping plaintext (or going home and crying.)
23:44 asciilifeform cui bono
23:44 mircea_popescu cui bono what ?
23:44 asciilifeform people distrusting crypto (of snake oil and genuine varieties, both)
23:44 asciilifeform left and right
23:44 asciilifeform who wins
23:44 mircea_popescu stupidity and laziness need no ulterior motive.
23:45 Vexual its a big job
23:45 mircea_popescu this is like inquiring who wins out of the roman notion that blowjobs cause cavities.
23:46 asciilifeform if you were the fuhrer of NSA, and your minions have not yet found a pill against rsa/etc., what would you do?
23:46 asciilifeform there's more than one way to steer people away from modern crypto
23:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you're probably right that this is a crackpot hypothesis, it presumes competence where, as far as we know, none is left
23:47 mircea_popescu if i were the fuhrer of the nsa i would be putting backdoors in every single code or cypher used by the usg
23:47 mircea_popescu and leak all the keys
23:47 mircea_popescu all the time.
23:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 92 @ 0.001188 = 0.1093 BTC [-]
23:47 mircea_popescu which perhaps explains why there is no competence left in there.
23:48 mircea_popescu they probably heard the exact same thing a thousand times so far.
23:48 asciilifeform btw I find it interesting that the names, brief histories, and approximate purposes of the 'Suite A' ciphers (nsa proprietary) used to be on wikipedia
23:48 asciilifeform and not one (save the ill-fated Skipjack) has ever seen the light of day
23:48 mircea_popescu yeah they got a letter of cachet
23:48 mircea_popescu got really excited about it all at the top cockless geek level.
23:49 asciilifeform funny part is that every 'spam wikipedia' (clone) still has them
23:49 asciilifeform the names/abstracts, that is, nobody save the owners have seen the algos
23:50 mircea_popescu myeah.
23:50 mircea_popescu actually here's a great idea to troll wikipedia
23:50 mircea_popescu recreate those articles lol
23:51 asciilifeform whoah
23:51 asciilifeform the idiot wiki-printers still have this crap
23:51 asciilifeform http://www.amazon.co.uk/JOSEKI-cipher-Ronald-Jesse-Russell/dp/B007OVDGVS
23:51 ozbot JOSEKI (cipher): Amazon.co.uk: Ronald Cohn Jesse Russell: Books
23:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0002 = 1 BTC [-]
23:53 asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NSA_Suite_A_Cryptography
23:54 mircea_popescu "It cannot be that a search warrant is "general" merely because it gives the government a tool that,
23:54 mircea_popescu if abused Contrrary to law, could constitute a general search."
23:54 mircea_popescu dude this is certainly a novel argument.
23:54 asciilifeform I do wonder why anybody bothered with the 'lettre du cachet', the wiki crap was the equivalent of a winamp playlist
23:55 mircea_popescu according to this nutjob a search is not general if it is objectively general as long as there's some sort of theoretical limitation on the generality.
23:55 asciilifeform well yeah, he used the 'apartment house' analogy
23:55 mircea_popescu for instance a warrant for the search of all cars in new york "to see if there's anything fishi going on" is not general as long as there;s a dept of transportation rule against people being assholes on the road.
23:56 mircea_popescu except they're asking for copies to the front door keys, not for the front door t obe unlocked.
23:57 mircea_popescu such despicable tactics for srsly.
23:57 asciilifeform it reflects the actual policy of the actual rulers. no surprises here.
23:57 Vexual and its not illegal to unlcok the door if you have the key?
23:58 mircea_popescu dependso n how you got the key.
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00093292 = 3.3119 BTC [+] {2}
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