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10:27 awt $ticker btc usd
10:28 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $20484.51
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11:15 signpost heh, "is the empire dead yet?" (checks btc price)
11:15 signpost nope, not dead yet
11:21 billymg another good one: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69695
11:21 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-07 14:22:28 signpost: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69465 << pretty good speech.
11:23 billymg also, twitter is now 4chan
11:25 shinohai So far I have misgendered 250+ troons and am not banned yet.
11:25 billymg lol
11:26 * billymg waiting for the initial high to wear off to see if the changes actually lead to more productive/honest discussion
11:27 signpost the format itself is prohibitive but the elon riot has been entertaining.
11:30 asciilifeform what was this ? ( asciilifeform not followed subj in realtime )
11:30 signpost asciilifeform: musk bought twatter to (purportely) purge the censors
11:31 asciilifeform aa. thought he spat it back out tho when discovered most of the users to be bots iirc ?
11:32 signpost he did try to reduce the price with that, but didn't work out for him.
11:32 asciilifeform a
11:33 signpost "He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind" << love this saying, haven't heard it before.
11:33 signpost brings to mind an old mp discussion about the russian notion of "order" which mp said didn't carry over in common english.
11:33 * asciilifeform recalls the fishwraps hype re subj, but not grasps what is the point of buying twatter -- if bought & converted to 8chan, a new one will be set up, resembling the old, and ~that~ one made Official, neh
11:34 signpost maybe globohomo has served its purpose and the reich's ready to embrace/extend 4chan mercantilism
11:35 asciilifeform afaik 4chanism can only exist in counterpoint to 'homo' tho -- rather like 'dissidents' evaporated away with sovok
11:36 asciilifeform i.e. '2 poles of magnet'
11:38 signpost I don't disagree but they might need to modify the globohomo end; even the gays are starting to reject the trans religion.
11:40 signpost the first batch of kids they maimed is old enough to wonder what the hell happened to them by now.
11:43 billymg yeah, they pushed it so far that "trad" is now counterculture. zoomer girls on tiktok openly promoting becoming a mother/housewife, young men eating right and exercising, etc.
11:44 billymg it's no longer cool to be a globohomo faggot
11:44 billymg or soiboi, or whore
11:44 asciilifeform billymg: there's a thermodynamic ratchet tho -- move from 'trad' to '9000 kilometres of cock', 'costs 1$', but reverse -- '100'
11:46 asciilifeform is simply 1 example. or take the 'trans' -- the mutilation aint reversible, the victims are perma-stuck justifying it to self & others
11:47 * billymg could see some of the victims becoming "born again" activists of sorts, "it happened to me, don't let it happen to you"
11:47 billymg some will react with suicide, for others it will flip some switch that causes them to dedicate their life to preventing it for others
11:48 awt Dogecoin up 44% this week.
11:49 billymg they cut their dick/tits off in the pursuit of "meaning", wainot now find meaning in saving others from their fate?
11:52 asciilifeform afaik these folx still collecting 'women in kompyooting scholarships' etc. just as before
11:55 billymg at least on the surface it appears that economic realities are starting to force companies to end those programs
11:55 billymg or as putin put it: "But people cannot be fed with printed dollars and euros. You can't feed them with those pieces of paper, and the virtual, inflated capitalisation of western social media companies can't heat their homes."
12:04 signpost http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014513 << this is happening; I've been touring various groups that I think will eventually benefit from pest.
12:04 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 11:47:10 billymg: could see some of the victims becoming "born again" activists of sorts, "it happened to me, don't let it happen to you"
12:05 signpost https://twitter.com/ChoooCole << one such example
12:07 signpost http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014508 << even if tmsr withered prematurely, this *is* still emanating from bitcoin.
12:07 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 11:43:18 billymg: yeah, they pushed it so far that "trad" is now counterculture. zoomer girls on tiktok openly promoting becoming a mother/housewife, young men eating right and exercising, etc.
12:08 * signpost expects us to end up having been a century or two early, not that it'll matter to us.
12:12 shinohai But signpost we can yell into the void from Valhalla about how we were there first!
12:13 signpost better at least prepare a good death then.
~ 28 minutes ~
12:42 signpost billymg: also, the lesbians are never going to stand for the destruction of the babies. lesbianism is, I remain convinced, a natural and necessary reaction to existing in a sea of unsuitable and reprehensible men.
12:42 signpost they're a fundamentally different thing than the male gays.
12:43 signpost the women huddle together to save the babies; the men huddle together to hide from their fear of the women.
12:47 billymg signpost: hadn't thought of it like that before but makes sense
12:52 billymg imo one of the biggest lulz of the whole tranny thing is men (troonz) harassing/threatening women (which they call "TERFS") and calling it "progressive/inclusive"
12:53 signpost the girls are built to take endless shit from reality, and it's male duty to see that this doesn't happen.
12:53 signpost what, they're going to fight them off themselves?
12:54 signpost so they've allowed this parasitism from all the decoy "babies".
12:54 signpost *in the absence of masculinity that would not tolerate it.
13:02 * billymg wasn't saying 'lulz' as in 'everyone laugh at the women getting harassed by troonz' but rather just pointing out the absurdity of it
13:04 billymg some will say "serves them right, they voted for this" -- yeah, but who let them?
13:05 * billymg agrees with signpost's assessment, the problems come from lack of men/masculinity and can't be blamed on women, who the men neglected to take care of
13:05 signpost yeah mine was a counterpoint to yours, just elaboration of cause.
13:05 asciilifeform 'ratchet broke, but spring still springy'(tm)(r)(mp)
13:05 signpost "men in skirts are beating the fuck out of our girls, wat do?" is this really a question?
13:06 signpost *wasn't a counterpoint I mean
13:07 * signpost still gives speeches to the court assembled when speaking here.
13:07 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014520 << curious to hear moar re subj
13:07 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 12:04:40 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014513 << this is happening; I've been touring various groups that I think will eventually benefit from pest.
13:08 signpost I want to seed it in the NH "free state" wot when I get up there, for example.
13:13 * asciilifeform would expect these would want own net
13:14 asciilifeform ( and probably also -- gui client )
13:17 signpost yep. iirc shinohai has done experiments running jonsykkel's client on android. seems like that oughta mean it can be wrapped in a gui turd on same.
13:17 signpost not the ideal client, but different people have different problems, and these are gonna need to hoover up normies.
13:18 asciilifeform for pnojes & similar, need also nat penetrator to actuallywork
13:18 signpost "WEF wants to keep you from voting in the primaries! check our pest feed for open polling stations!" etc
13:18 signpost yup defo needed.
13:18 asciilifeform (afaik ~100% of gsm modems sit under nat )
13:20 signpost and for thread completeness, oughta also be straightforward to use jonsykkel's from objc c interop on ios
13:20 asciilifeform the 1 difficulty for such folx might be how to exchange keys (if they end up e.g. pasting'em into plaintext sms or the like, is worse than nuffin) but otherwise not need 'phd' to set up pestron
13:20 shinohai Both awt's AND jonsykkel's clients run via termux on Android, current station is actually on spare droid phone using blatta lol.
13:21 signpost asciilifeform: typically the dork clients do this via scan of QR code
13:21 asciilifeform 1 possible answer is 'display as qr'
13:21 asciilifeform a
13:21 signpost yup
13:21 asciilifeform would need native pnoje port for this tho
13:23 asciilifeform 'ideal pestron' of course not pnoje, but (in fact could be physically similar) portable p2p radio
13:24 signpost shinohai: yeah works if you're using android like a linux, but afaik using python in an apk would rely upon one of those balls of shit and twine that try to fake a static executible for the scriptlangs. probs want the c as a lib.
13:24 signpost asciilifeform: btc gains that zero without sandwich also, and I'll help pay for that.
13:25 * signpost meanwhile working toward putting more btc in his pocket with misc shitworld attempts at biznis 2 not yet worth mentioning.
13:26 * shinohai built py2.7 from sauces, errything stored on a sd card for portability sake ....
13:26 shinohai Python apk is pure trash
13:28 jonsykkel rewrited client will for sure be enginered in less 30iq manner, with splited front end and "libpest" and wat not
13:29 signpost ossum.
13:31 shinohai 🔥
13:31 signpost asciilifeform: I've also considered in what apps pest could be embedded as an unspoken implementation detail, later "freed".
13:32 signpost "oh, here's a secure platform for interacting with your lawyers and accountants in context of privilege"
13:36 signpost one could make several of these, pump them into various markets with traditional salesforces, then connect them all, and allahu-ackbar the businesses.
~ 16 minutes ~
13:52 asciilifeform signpost: pestron as 'easter egg' in ipnojeisms, nintendo cartridges, etc. prolly notbad idea
13:52 asciilifeform anyffin w/ a nic (or gsm modem) in principle oughta host one
13:53 asciilifeform ( tho getting keys into it might be tricky, if no camera or app dunhave access rights to it )
13:56 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014566 << fwiw there are nao ice40-compat. ('ecp5', ~83k LUTs) w/ gb nic, for signpost's old idea re 'filter for validly signed incoming packets in dc'
13:56 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 13:24:28 signpost: asciilifeform: btc gains that zero without sandwich also, and I'll help pay for that.
13:57 asciilifeform load keys via rs232, connect fire hose on 1 end, valid packets out the other.
13:58 * asciilifeform suspects the need for this will be felt moar acutely once we've the luby file transfer thing
13:59 signpost nice, that still seems like a good product to build.
13:59 * signpost has written a lisp version of the encoder item, currently dog slow.
13:59 * asciilifeform recalls
14:01 signpost probably oughta put my big boy pants on and write in ada; it's perfectly amenable to working within fixed-length buffers. dynamic language is almost getting in the way, or my inept use of it.
14:15 asciilifeform the board in question, ftr. ( asciilifeform picked up , not tried just yet tho )
14:16 signpost bummer, sold out
14:19 asciilifeform instock on lulazon for couplabux moar
14:19 asciilifeform (and possib. elsewhere)
14:33 signpost cool, just got two sent here from amzn
14:34 asciilifeform afaik the most spacious ice40-compat. demoboard atm
14:34 * signpost will return to work on that encoder in a few weeks for a breather from the webshits projects.
14:36 * asciilifeform mired as always in commercial liquishit, but occasionally comes up for air, and ~80% done w/ rewritten pest doc
14:37 asciilifeform imho w/ new one , over9000x simpler to write correct client ( simplified mechanics of broadcast intake , as noted earlier, among other things )
14:37 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-25 13:05:07 asciilifeform[5]: nao, msg only held up if a) a chain precedent missing, and we getdata'd for it, ~1s b) hearsay arrives with bounce > alltime_minimum(speaker) -- give time for immed/lower-bounce to arrive
14:39 asciilifeform notably, if gui/dedicated rather than irc frontend, not need to handle forks as such, simply provide indicator of what selfhash/nethash of a msg points to, then forkage apparent visually
14:39 asciilifeform ditto missing chain links -- can represent with 'question mark' and fill in as getdata returns it
14:40 asciilifeform the append-only irc frontend is a rather tight straightjacket.
~ 1 hours 42 minutes ~
16:22 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014579 << very cool; sadly now completely out of stock on lulzalon and other webshit. Instead got https://radiona.org/ulx3s/
16:22 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 13:56:27 asciilifeform[5]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014566 << fwiw there are nao ice40-compat. ('ecp5', ~83k LUTs) w/ gb nic, for signpost's old idea re 'filter for validly signed incoming packets in dc'
16:23 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: well, no nic on that one, but if yer simply getting into the subj, will suffice (tho arguably overkill for n00b)
16:23 crtdaydreams Likely ULX3S will arrive before Icebreaker and TinyFPGA ordered in May
16:24 crtdaydreams *from the same webshit mind you
16:25 crtdaydreams don't need nic for what I want
16:25 * asciilifeform recs to folx to get to the 'blink led at 1hz' stage before ponying up for fat fpga boards
16:32 signpost crtdaydreams: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09X275SL6/ << says 5 left in stock over here, but could be oz-specific shortage on your end?
16:33 crtdaydreams signpost: possibly?
16:34 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-10-28#1014602 << wise words
16:34 bitbot Logged on 2022-10-28 16:23:36 asciilifeform[5]: crtdaydreams: well, no nic on that one, but if yer simply getting into the subj, will suffice (tho arguably overkill for n00b)
~ 3 hours 25 minutes ~
19:59 asciilifeform meanwhile, in spec preview bits.
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20:22 shinohai $vwap
20:22 busybot The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 20602.93 USD
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