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05:44 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011839 & http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011842 << The problem I find is they all look more akin to dress boots, it also doesn't look they have an awful lot of grip, but perhaps running on el-cheapo boots has corrupted my value compass. I feel like i'd ruin them quite quickly
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05:44 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 18:33:25 billymg: crtdaydreams: can confirm, wolverine boots are great. i've got three pairs of these i bought in ny after a coworker got me into the trend
05:44 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 18:34:51 billymg: phf: imo their only worthwhile offering is the iron ranger
05:44 crtdaydreams doing e.g. welding/grinding.
05:44 * crtdaydreams ought to seperate use-cases in this instance between more trade-work and daily drivers / yard work
05:45 crtdaydreams s/and/vs/
05:48 crtdaydreams prolly should also mention have worn mostly running shoes entire life due to school requirement being that
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06:04 crtdaydreams err
06:07 * crtdaydreams just attempted to measure foot size by using measuring tape, apparently indicating foot is 42.5cm long
06:08 crtdaydreams s/cm/mm
06:08 crtdaydreams jezus that's a long foot xd
06:08 crtdaydreams apparently sizing only goes up to 30.2mm
06:08 crtdaydreams wait
06:08 crtdaydreams xd
06:08 crtdaydreams brain not work
06:14 crtdaydreams smal foot
06:15 crtdaydreams footlong foot
06:28 shinohai gm #pestnet
06:28 shinohai $ticker btc usd
06:28 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $20477.59
06:32 crtdaydreams ohaiyo shinohai o/
06:33 shinohai Heya crtdaydreams how goes?
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07:12 crtdaydreams shinohai: not going. broke a machine this afternoon and have to get out the oxy-acetylene tomorrow morn. gotta straighten a roller D:
07:13 crtdaydreams so a bit grumpy about that, just had dinner and prolly head to bed shortly. how about you?
07:15 shinohai Not too bad here, waiting on the espresso to finish, then gonna tinker with blatta a bit more probably.
07:16 crtdaydreams shinohai one of those cup ones or grinder?
07:21 shinohai If by cups you mean those coffee pods, ewwwww.
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07:32 PeterL crtdaydreams: they may look like dress boots at first, but if you use them that goes away pretty fast. If they are built right, you don't have to worry about ruining them.
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07:34 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011893 << ewwwwwwww indeed
07:34 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 07:21:04 shinohai: If by cups you mean those coffee pods, ewwwww.
07:35 PeterL 42.5mm, what are you measuring, your big toe?
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07:35 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011894 << yeah righto
07:35 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 07:32:56 PeterL: crtdaydreams: they may look like dress boots at first, but if you use them that goes away pretty fast. If they are built right, you don't have to worry about ruining them.
07:35 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011897 << I neglected to read the 200
07:35 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 07:35:09 PeterL: 42.5mm, what are you measuring, your big toe?
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08:57 phf http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011867 << what peterl said, but more specifically leather is choose your own adventure. if you use them as dress shoes they'll retain their luster, but if you use them as trade shoes they'll break in pretty fast
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08:57 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 05:44:21 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|awt|signpost]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011839 & http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011842 << The problem I find is they all look more akin to dress boots, it also doesn't look they have an awful lot of grip, but perhaps running on el-cheapo boots has corrupted my value compass. I feel like i'd ruin them quite quickly
09:00 phf either way you want to take care of them, i usually clean mine with dry brush, and then wipe with a rag and mink oil (leather boot stores sell "care" packages)
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09:05 phf the damage on your work boots will accumulate and they won't look dressy (though if you really want to spend time on it, you can buff out even deep scruffs), but i think it's proper to touch them up on the regular
09:05 PeterL phf: you are right about using them as dress shoes. Like I said, I'm pretty gentle with mine. They are something like 9 years old, but I wear them to church every week and don't feel out of place
09:16 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011902 << buy 2 pairs ?
09:16 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 08:57:29 phf[awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011867 << what peterl said, but more specifically leather is choose your own adventure. if you use them as dress shoes they'll retain their luster, but if you use them as trade shoes they'll break in pretty fast
09:22 phf or better yet 3, 1 pair of dress boots and 2 pairs of daily work boots that you rotate daily
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09:23 asciilifeform + 1 for parade, wainot
09:33 phf asciilifeform, lots of men engage in social obligations, where they use clothing to signal respect and establish social cohesion. wearing the same milspec army surplus gear everywhere is often seen as deviant behavior!
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10:12 asciilifeform phf: noshit. even asciilifeform has parade boots
10:12 phf til
10:13 asciilifeform lol
10:13 * asciilifeform not worn parade uniform for rather loong time tho
10:16 phf ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAgsubC0zaE
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10:43 asciilifeform lol!
10:43 asciilifeform a++
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11:10 phf i remember der weiße engel from marathon man, but apparently it was joseph mengele's nickname. went to wikipedia article, and it's pure gold. from “Talk” page “ It's true the book has no footnotes or bibliography. But Alan Levy was an award-winning journalist and editor-in-chief of The Prague Post, so I don't person
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11:10 phf ally have a problem with this source.”
11:11 phf “Main photo should remove military uniforms that show a prideful Mengele in Nazi clothes. The man is a war criminal and the photo is not victim centric. A disgraced photo of him on the run is more suitable.”
11:13 asciilifeform lol
11:14 * asciilifeform recalls the hand-drawn 'playing cards' from '17 moments of spring'
11:16 phf tbh, i haven't rewatched it since the 90s, what's the reference?
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11:47 asciilifeform phf: subj
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12:28 phf fuck, i now have soundtrack stuck in my head
12:34 phf subj https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOS1YxYa3Mk
12:35 phf for the log reader, obv, for any other scion of su, like asciilifeform, there's no need for a reminder
12:41 phf that's a cool scene, i haven't seen it done anywhere else, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWkTOJxbyA the plot line is that the main character, a spy, gets a meeting with his wife, which involves them seeting at the opposite ends of some random cafe, he alone, and she with a cover date, and periodically looking at each ot
12:41 phf her meaningfully, which is still too risky
12:43 phf a scene like that would not even be attempted for modern audience, but i wonder if the likes of humphrey bogart have it somewhere in his repertoire
~ 15 minutes ~
12:58 asciilifeform phf: reportedly it nearly got cut in production, director fought tooth'n'nail to keep it
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13:17 awt $ticker btc usd
13:18 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $19612.71
13:30 awt https://twitter.com/tyonclubhouse/status/1564661282598318080?s=21&t=6BlbMypgxoZpbcFgtK6XKg: things are seemingly already quite expensive in yurup
13:31 billymg apparently not enough people withdrawing their IOU coins from the goxes
13:33 billymg re: btc price
13:34 billymg in some cases, can't withdraw!
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13:39 billymg awt: looks pretty bad
13:40 billymg winter only a few months away now
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13:49 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011861 << lol same thing happened to me from wearing nothing but flip flops in cr. i've seen these mentioned before (made to order work/dress boots), if i lived in the US i'd give them a try
13:49 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 20:57:28 signpost: I recently noticed how much having my toes jammed together sucks, currently hunting for a good wide toe-box shoe.
13:57 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011938 << live by the gox, die by the gox
13:57 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 13:34:55 billymg: in some cases, can't withdraw!
13:59 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011940 << wai eu needs heat eh? aint it enuff to have ordnung and hyoomanrights(tm) ?
13:59 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 13:40:19 billymg: winter only a few months away now
14:02 billymg asciilifeform: what's doubly painful about that one is that the slow decline in btc balance visible in the chart is them dumping 2% annually as their "management fee"
14:03 billymg trading currently at a ~32% discount relative to btc spot price
~ 2 hours 20 minutes ~
16:24 asciilifeform billymg: considering that the ~whole point! of such schemes is to dampen btc...
~ 56 minutes ~
17:20 signpost at this point the dampening scheme appears to apply to every fake asset, whether discussing goxbtc or gox401k
17:20 signpost gotta restart the game back at the bottom
17:32 awt debasement is on hold: https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact/status/1564427614692966400
17:35 signpost fake assets I said though, not fake currencies
17:36 signpost the fake currency has to be strong for the buying the banker fucks are going to be doing somewhere in the next 6-12mos
17:39 signpost awt: what do you think the interest rate cut excuse is going to be?
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17:50 signpost meanwhile rip gorby
18:01 * shinohai orders a PizzaHut pan pizza in his honor ....
18:11 * jonsykkel microwaves a https://www.sg.no/globalassets/pimimages/4851036.jpg?w=640&h=360&scale=both
18:14 shinohai lol
18:23 asciilifeform lol apparently soros didn't share his elixir of immortality with the d00d
18:24 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011955 << do they need excuse ?
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18:24 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 17:39:30 signpost: awt: what do you think the interest rate cut excuse is going to be?
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18:52 awt signpost: no idea what the excuse will be. I thought for sure something would have broken by now.
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23:16 crtdaydreams unrelated query; what microcontrollers would folx around here rec?
23:25 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: for what ?
23:27 asciilifeform this is rather like asking 'what diesel motors would folx around here rec?'
23:27 asciilifeform ... for wat? for bulldozer? dump truck? freighter? uboat? answr will vary
23:30 * crtdaydreams knew would get this response
23:30 crtdaydreams voltage monitoring and LED driving
23:31 crtdaydreams voltage will prolly be in AC, but a bridge rectifier and cap should handle that
23:31 asciilifeform pick sumthing you're comfortable with in re instr set (or if lazy, sumthing gcc targets)
23:32 asciilifeform if yer building a 1-off to use on own desk, rather than mass production, cost dun matter at all
23:32 asciilifeform (an 'expensive' micro is still usually < 10 $ )
23:32 crtdaydreams problem is I don't have any experience with any microcontrollers
23:33 crtdaydreams this is sorta a project that I've been meaning to do and would be good to learn some more of electronics
23:34 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: take e.g. this one, marketed to abject n00bs, has pretty good library for commonplace situations and virtually efforless toolchain setup
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23:34 bitbot (asciilifeform) 2021-07-09 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i dun have anyffin against it, there are at least 3 controlling various mechanisms in asciilifeform's torture room, it's a cheap rubbish board
23:34 crtdaydreams I get the principles and have The art of electronics on standby if need be
23:34 asciilifeform comes on a breakout board with screw contacts
23:35 asciilifeform *effortless
23:37 * crtdaydreams unsure which arduino board in reference ther
23:38 asciilifeform 'arduino' has reputation of 'unsportsmanlike, for lamers' etc, but if yer problem consists of 'i wanna close a relay contact when voltage so-and-so' it'll do the job and you can bake it and fughet about it
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23:38 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: for that one used a 'Micro Beetle ATmega32u4'
23:38 asciilifeform little keychain thing
23:39 asciilifeform chinesium
23:39 asciilifeform working fine for ~2y nao, 24/7 tho
23:40 * asciilifeform needed strictly to send 4 different strings at 9600 baud when 1 of 4 respective buttons hit
23:41 asciilifeform took maybe hour to bake, and most of it went for drilling holes for the buttons & spraypainting the box
23:41 crtdaydreams is reasonable price considering AUD conversion?
23:41 asciilifeform for a 1-off ? sure
23:42 asciilifeform the box you'll put it in will likely cost moar
23:43 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: typically you can buy sumthing arduinoish locally tho, if not necessarily in the keychain form factor
23:43 asciilifeform if it aint particularly important what physical dimensions, simply buy cheapest local thing
23:43 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011982 << is the contrary considered "glue 6502 to to pcb and design own data bus w/ 4 eeprom"?
23:43 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-30 23:38:06 asciilifeform[4]: 'arduino' has reputation of 'unsportsmanlike, for lamers' etc, but if yer problem consists of 'i wanna close a relay contact when voltage so-and-so' it'll do the job and you can bake it and fughet about it
23:44 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: not necessarily, most commercial products with micros, where unit cost actually matters, use 'smallest that'll do the job' and programmed in asm
23:44 asciilifeform even the venarable pic16x84 ( asciilifeform's 1st micro, '90s) is still produced afaik
23:45 * asciilifeform has seen it in e.g. cheap mice
23:45 crtdaydreams 1c makes a dent when you're churning out 1,000,000+ shitblocks
23:45 asciilifeform subj
23:46 asciilifeform *venerable
23:47 crtdaydreams was initially considering this, but defo overkill
23:47 crtdaydreams wasn't aware they came in smaller packages
23:47 asciilifeform 'arduino' is simply a software kit on top of 'atmel' (can program it in asm if prefer)
23:48 asciilifeform comes in over9000 sizes
23:48 * asciilifeform bbl
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