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04:01 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-27#1011723 << Not only practical, but a garb of quality not manufactured anymore (at least to my knowledge).
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04:01 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-27 17:24:14 phf[awt]: and nikolai the second wearing the same outfit (his was red though) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48050981657_06e2f9a58d_o.jpg
04:03 crtdaydreams Speaking of apparel quality, a pair of decent quality boots that last >6mo seems to be an astonishingly difficult thing to get a hold of.
04:09 crtdaydreams There doesn't seem to be a linear correlation with greater expense == higher quality with footwear in general.
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06:14 crtdaydreams vex: this one's for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxy1eF_w7sU
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06:36 PeterL crtdaydreams: I don't know if they are carried in your area, but Red Wing and Wolverine brand work boots seem to be the highest quality around here.
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07:57 PeterL http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-27#1113408 << obviously, if the hosting bill goes unpaid then the website disappears eventually.
07:57 dulapbot (asciilifeform) 2022-08-27 ARCHIMEDES: Is there any potential that MP's website hosting bill may go unpaid, or for that matter, that the site may simply disappear at some point?
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08:55 shinohai http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-28#1011793 << It's that NGU technology. ^_^
08:55 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-28 23:40:51 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-28#1011732 << if it's anything like a fire sale, they hike up the prices two weeks in advance then it drops for the sale back to msrp
08:56 shinohai Been kinda behind with my blatta maintenance, will be pressing latest after un cafecito this morning.
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09:37 phf i've been slow with my pest progress, because i started building a general solution for message rendering: maintain packet graph, insert into graph on packet receipt, do a kahn sort, then diff the result sequence using Hirschberg algorithm, which tells me “optimal” minimal updates to the already rendered message view (
09:37 phf i.e. if the packet was appended or if it's out of order and needs to be inserted somewhere in the past)
09:38 phf something tells me there's a simpler way of doing things, but…
09:39 phf but meanwhile i can do a simple prod song and dance to make sure that my netchain/selfchain are correct :> http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Oesr
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09:59 phf http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011801 << well, it's certainly still manufactured, because "kuban cossacks" is a strange ru paramilitary organization, which is equal parts freemasons, honorable order of kentucky colonels, stolen valor larpers, religious police and parade units
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09:59 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 04:01:30 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|awt|signpost]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-27#1011723 << Not only practical, but a garb of quality not manufactured anymore (at least to my knowledge).
10:00 phf e.g. https://kubnews.ru/upload/resize_cache/iblock/1b1/800_533_2/1b19c3fd5b64ef7d53bdcdab827f3648.jpg
10:01 phf but also https://www.yuga.ru/media/e9/6b/kazaki-postroenie_b03__9e6xmif.jpg
10:05 phf here's a whole bunch of photos from "kuban cossack parade", https://regnum.ru/news/cultura/2616075.html
10:08 phf now as to the "quality", that a different question, there's definitely a handful of manufacturers who make a whole range, from cheap cotton immitations to
10:10 phf sent it before finished editing; from cotton immitations to i suspect somewhat functional wool replicas, that had at least some field use in mind
10:16 phf i was at some point surprised to find high quality garments in ru, that are made locally and sold very cheap, that are designed for military and infrastructure use. it's a kind of highbreed between us military surplus and prison made clothing. if you want e.g. fishing gear to sit outside in -40c all day can have the whole
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10:16 phf set (coverall, boots, thermals, under layer) for ~~$100 and it'll work and mostly last, but will look ugly. i suspect cossack coats have similar quality
10:20 asciilifeform phf: afaik indeed comes in 'cosplay' and 'practical' flavour, rather like usa 'tacticals'; and the 2 not much resemble one anuther
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10:43 phf milspec cherkeska: PALS instead of gazyr, shorten to right above knees, MARPAT
10:45 phf of course for traditional reasons one wears triple mag pouch where gazyr used to be
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11:55 asciilifeform phf: the undying 'full mag stopped bullet' meme prolly also connected
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12:24 shinohai Testing blatta v9973
12:26 shinohai $vwap
12:29 busybot The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 20169.89 USD
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17:55 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011806 << looks like they have a .au distributor, when current pair kicks the bucket will prolly give a pair of red wings a go.
17:55 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 06:36:52 PeterL: crtdaydreams: I don't know if they are carried in your area, but Red Wing and Wolverine brand work boots seem to be the highest quality around here.
18:02 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011816 << interesting. not dissimilar from "queens guard"
18:02 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 09:59:16 phf[awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011801 << well, it's certainly still manufactured, because "kuban cossacks" is a strange ru paramilitary organization, which is equal parts freemasons, honorable order of kentucky colonels, stolen valor larpers, religious police and parade units
18:03 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-29#1011823 << imagine would be better than nuthin' in coming winter
18:03 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-29 10:16:51 phf[awt]: i was at some point surprised to find high quality garments in ru, that are made locally and sold very cheap, that are designed for military and infrastructure use. it's a kind of highbreed between us military surplus and prison made clothing. if you want e.g. fishing gear to sit outside in -40c all day can have the whole
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18:33 phf i've stopped by a handful of red wing stores and somehow their instore offerings are always ugly as hell
18:33 billymg crtdaydreams: can confirm, wolverine boots are great. i've got three pairs of these i bought in ny after a coworker got me into the trend
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18:33 billymg used to wear them every day
18:33 billymg also had a pair of redwings that i just recently gave away, wolverines are slightly higher quality imo
18:34 billymg phf: imo their only worthwhile offering is the iron ranger
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18:36 phf yes, which is also the only boot that's practical for me: i need traditional heel and low tread sole, because anything else has a risk of getting caught in stirrup
18:36 phf but i've not seen an iron ranger in store even once :o
18:38 PeterL I have a pair of Woverine steel-toes that I got from a previous employer, after 7 years they are pretty beat up but I still use them whenever I do yardwork.
18:39 PeterL now I mostly wear a pair of Hytest steel-toe shoes, they are a bit older than the others and I had to get the insoles replaced, but the outer shell is still in good shape
18:41 PeterL these are the shoes where I was moving a piano, dropped it about a foot straight down onto my foot. I looked down and said "heh, glad I'm wearing protective shoes!"
18:42 PeterL left a small dent in the leather on top of the shoe, but I didn't feel anything
18:44 PeterL Where I work I'm required to have steel-toes for safety reasons, but I don't put a lot of wear on them like a guy in the trades would, and the biggest thing I have actually dropped on my toe at work was a wrench the size of my pinky
18:44 phf my current go to boot is a lulzy frankenstein: it's a cheap chinese “classic” doc martens, where some city cobbler replaced the sole with whatever he had in a box, because the stitching was a fake and the sole just separated. the cobbler put it on glue, but when it separated second time a local amish cobbler's son stit
18:44 phf ched it proper. so now it's actually a semi-descent shoe. i wore it for ~~10 years.
18:45 phf i had a horse step on the toe a few times, it's not a piano, but it made me wish to have a steel toe
18:46 PeterL the other time the steel toes comes in handy is when my kids are around, they always want to stand right on my feet when they talk to me
18:46 phf oh the amish also replaced the insole and the heel. stone soup shoe
18:49 phf PeterL, that seems like a kind of parenting experience one wants to minimize but then misses dearly
18:51 PeterL when I have my shoes on it's fine, but then they do it when I don't have on shoes, and that hundred pounds starts to hurt
19:05 phf the pain of fatherhood!
19:15 PeterL right!?! and they are always so needy, like they expect me to feed them every single day or something
19:16 PeterL although, sometimes it is funny. Like my teen-ager was all "I'm hungry" and I said to make a sandwich, and they were like "meh, that's too much work"
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19:54 awt PeterL: my daughter just started cooking her own food because she didn't like what I was making. Of course she mostly cooks mac&cheese and pasta w/ red sauce.
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20:57 signpost I recently noticed how much having my toes jammed together sucks, currently hunting for a good wide toe-box shoe.
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20:57 signpost worked from home for too long and my toes spread out!
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21:19 phf correct method is of course to keep your foot's last at your preferred cordwainer :}
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21:37 signpost answer to so many things... "have you considered having real ones made?"
21:47 * shinohai searches for "cobblers near signpost" finds nothing .....
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22:03 phf welcome to "that's why we can't have nice things"
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