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11:26 awt $ticker btc usd
11:26 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $19972.25
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13:35 shinohai FIRE SALE!!!!!!
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14:49 awt May need a mechanism to filter out dupe address casts. Don't really want to store address cast messages in the long buffer though.
14:53 jonsykkel they filtred by dedup buffer no?
14:57 jonsykkel or i guess u mean ur storing all of them and most of them contain same ip/port
14:59 jonsykkel could do "peer x addr changed to y" in logs
14:59 awt jonsykkel: rereading the spec - says it stores all fully processed unique messages
14:59 awt So I guess yeah I should be storing address cast messages in the long buffer
15:00 jonsykkel ah long bufer = dedup bufer, ignore my mesages
15:07 awt Currently long buffer gets written to the db. Maybe only save address cast messages that update the db? I can't think of a reason why you'd want to save them long term at all.
15:08 awt s/db/at
15:10 jonsykkel a atacker could then change ur peers address in some cases by replaying adres cast that should of been deduped
15:11 jonsykkel guess coudl be argued that they can do this anyway by holding back a packet and releasing it later
15:12 awt jonsykkel: ah I see yes
15:13 jonsykkel (and of cours, atacker has no idea wat the packets contain)
15:16 awt Just seems not good to log automated messages
15:16 awt s/log/store
15:22 awt for bob, if alice is cold, bob is going to be periodically sending out ac messages to john, and john's going to have to store those messages.
15:24 jonsykkel i imagine that Tc constant in spec is set to somthing on the order of 60sec
15:25 jonsykkel so "Ta must be greater than or equal to Tc" -> max 60 casts per hour for each cold peer
15:26 jonsykkel and by constant i mean knob
15:33 awt jonsykkel: if alice is dead - ac broadcasts may continue for eternity
15:34 jonsykkel awt: indeed, but longbufer only stores last hour
15:35 jonsykkel so u will only have ur bufer capacity permanently reduced by ~60*dead_peers
15:37 awt True. Need to fix blatta long buffer though :( currently just goes straight to db and stores forever.
15:37 jonsykkel aha
15:40 signpost http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-28#1011732 << when the stock market takes another rip downward normies will be fleeing their goxcorn too.
15:40 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-28 13:35:58 shinohai: FIRE SALE!!!!!!
15:41 * signpost has his bag wide open, 50% off coupon pls.
15:42 awt Yeah. I'm ready.
15:56 billymg anyone here have any insight into what's going on with eu energy prices? on the surface it looks like they're in for an interesting winter
16:09 awt Kind of hard to believe it's as bad as they say.
16:09 * awt shrugs
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16:37 signpost why hard to believe? https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/2022-08/75c1a84eec22b664b7a47481e3b8c1d3.png
16:42 signpost billymg: german bureaucrats are already talking about begging to turn on nord stream 2.
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17:00 billymg signpost: ah, i didn't hear that (that germany is thinking of crawling back to russia)
17:01 billymg signpost: re: why hard to believe, can't speak for awt but i felt that way also, mainly because of the constant media gaslighting for the last 3 years on nearly any and every topic
17:01 signpost https://archive.ph/gySS6
17:03 signpost if the question is whether people will do anything about lack of heat or power, no argument to the contrary here.
17:03 billymg signpost: that would mean them paying in rubles, right? or did russia budge on that at some point?
17:04 signpost I'm not aware that russia has budged on a thing, look like they're doing great atm.
17:04 billymg yeah, seems that way to me as well
17:07 billymg i like asking on pest because folks here have a way of giving very clear answers that can't be found elsewhere
17:07 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-22 11:55:00 phf[awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-21#1011252 << “jordan peterson, the mastermind behind american trumpism, and trump’s number one advisor”
17:07 signpost for sure
17:09 signpost iirc jonsykkel is our only current eufag
17:09 jonsykkel power gone up yep
17:11 signpost jonsykkel: ty for your incisive analysis :)
17:11 jonsykkel np np
17:12 billymg jonsykkel: let us know when they go sri lankan on the politicians
17:12 jonsykkel of course as an end user of the socialist state i dont see a big diffrence until i look at detailed section of bill where the compensation is listed
17:13 jonsykkel sure ill keep u posted
17:17 signpost I kinda want to buy a natgas etf, but I figure every time I have an urge like that I'm too late for the trade.
17:17 awt signpost: hard to believe *it will be* I think is more what I meant. Disasters on the horizon for a long time tend not to be as bad as predicted.
17:19 signpost yeah, being cold or without power is not an apocalypse, I agree.
17:20 awt War started early in the year. Anyone with a clue would have been preparing since then.
17:20 signpost more/less expected standard of living under socialism
17:22 signpost curious if these numbers are accurate: https://www.worldometers.info/gas/germany-natural-gas/
17:30 signpost hey mats, get a pest station already.
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23:04 * asciilifeform back from beach fwiw
23:04 * asciilifeform will catch up on log in coming days
23:05 * asciilifeform went for 1st time since iirc '17, w/ meatspace folx
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23:40 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-28#1011732 << if it's anything like a fire sale, they hike up the prices two weeks in advance then it drops for the sale back to msrp
23:40 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-28 13:35:58 shinohai: FIRE SALE!!!!!!
23:44 crtdaydreams $ticker btc usd
23:44 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $19852.76
23:46 crtdaydreams it go down.
23:47 crtdaydreams s/weeks/years
23:49 crtdaydreams http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-26#1011692 << gotcha.
23:49 bitbot Logged on 2022-08-26 19:36:32 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-26#1011643 << >> http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-07-15#1009689
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