| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | thestringpuller: no, way newer | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | TestingUnoDosTre: you'll enjoy that article | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/completely-insane-saga-coinbet-cc/2014/04/20 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | he either got extremely cocky or he was seriously amateur, like more than anyone realised | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | heh heh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | * | fluffypony probably would too | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | TestingUnoDosTre: if you have that much to throw around will you be sensible? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | who knew | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | so every "assassin" on the darknet is fake with a bunch of snuff videos | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | "Prosecutors admit there's no evidence that any of these murders actually took place – and in one case, agents actually faked photos of the target's torture and death to send to Ulbricht." | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/22/silk_road_more_contract_killing_charges/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | thestringpuller: he thought so | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | but if I'm donating or not donating am I not making an informed decision/judgement call? am I not picking a side of the fence on which to sit (which side may change later) ? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | I know - innocent until proven guilty and all that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | danielpbarron: I find myself torn...I think that SR was an interesting endeavour, and I applaud his efforts in providing a platform, but I think organising six murders is taking Internet-tough-guy too far | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | in which /r/Bitcoin can't decide whether to support Ross Ulbricht's legal defence because drugs mmmmmkay or vehemently not support it because, you know, he tried to have people killed and ran a successful criminal enterprise | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | controversial Reddit thread of the day: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23hvbt/ross_ulbrichts_sister_decribes_the_character_of/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | that is hilarious | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | *clicks* | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | ALL HAIL | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | guys his friend is a math genius | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | it's like they're trying to make Yelp for Bitcoin | #trilema |
| 2014-04-20 | fluffypony | cgcardona_: that article you linked to is hilarious | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | "we've moved to COBOL to keep it in line with our other systems" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ^^ modern banking upgrades | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | April 2009 – September 2010 (1 year 6 months) Newlands | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | Convert Banking systems written in MANTIS to COBOL under CICS using customised conversion tool and Microfocus Cobol. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | so then you're stuck on unsupported XP for a long time till that layer can get re-written | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | and the front-end gets a modern overhaul | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | the business logic stays as a 16-bit DLL/tray app | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I've seen a LOT of LoB apps where they abstracted the business logic from the display/interface | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | or stick with XP | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | the only way to run 16-bit apps in Vista+ is through a VM | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | turbo_ac100: http://www.asiteaboutnothing.net/c_16bit-virtualization.html | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | also some of those apps may be really old - Windows NT stuff | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | upgrade $$$ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | * | fluffypony nods | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | that are expensive to rewrite | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | so domain specific, company specific apps | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | oh sorry - Line of Business | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | turbo_ac100: but for LoB applications it's already pretty good | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | joecool: yeah, we're discussing the "what for" part of dignork's comment | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all the gunk pulled out would be nice | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | OS X and Linux are not winning in that space atm | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | especially for games | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol neat | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ;;rate cgcardona_ 1 bitcoin-assets regular | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | and invariably I end up in ##css asking for help :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I'm forced to dabble, so the nature of it eludes me | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I just don't "get" CSS | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | you're right, there aren't other options | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I'm quite jealous - would love to meet him one day | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | cgcardona_: CSS gives me a headache...I'm definitely not a front-end person from that perspective | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | off to a beer fest I go, cheers | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | "Goxcoin would be issued on a one-to-one basis to trusted and verified accounts." | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ok that was overly rude, I take that back :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | she's hiding the privkeys in her snatch | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | why do they think it'll make a difference calling his wife? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | meh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | HeySteve: so mention at the outset of the article that the quotes may be unsubstantiated because of reasons mentioned above? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | HeySteve: it depends - if you're trading with them then they generally have to auth; whilst you can check with nickserv if they have enforce on and are identified Freenode have said that it's possible NS passwords were leaked coz of heartbleed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yesh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | oh I miss the goxlag days | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | kakobrekla: morning | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: you missed your Twitter friend yesterday | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol - "Herp Rating Agency is an initiative born out of the need for due diligence in the Bitcoin ecosystem.", but he gave Neo & Bee a "Buy Rating" a month ago | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yep | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | and whilst everyone complains about it, you get to see why it's there | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I must say, the one good thing about having spent a few years at a listed corporate is that you see all the red tape and regulatory crap | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | everyone "started a company" in their twenties, it's just that when I did nobody would've invested in it (even if I'd asked) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | heh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | how old is Danny? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | heh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | also I'm not sure why everyone bought his spiel about being an early BTC/LTC adopter, there wasn't any evidence of that; his lack of technical understanding of cryptocurrency fundamentals would point to the opposite | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah, when you have buying power and you don't leverage it that's just idiotic | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | heh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | I agree with that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah agreed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | marketing is the last link in the chain, not the first | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | don't advertise when you don't even have a product | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | which rookie mistake are we talking about - the advertising one or another one? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | he should have tested the waters with a small budget and measured the results | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | jurov: that I agree with | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | * | fluffypony clicks to read | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | so where in that process is the mistake? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | which doesn't translate into clicks, and they then *learn* from that *mistake* that they should have spent the $100k on online advertising instead | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | the expert advises on radio advertising, and they spend $100k on radio advertising | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | and pays for some consultation | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | so he researches and finds a domain expert | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | the CEO/manager/whatever does a ton of research, and realises it is his not his expertise | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | a new business wants to do advertising | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | as an example | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | maybe I'm not understanding how "learn" and "mistake" are defined contextually | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | academically not maths - informatics and logistics, so only a smattering of maths | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | on the topic of stupidity - you mentioned in a post that clever people learn by observation, and stupid people learn by direct experience...but I'm not sure if I agree that every lesson *can* be learnt by observation | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | And yet many people hate those barriers to entry and want to invest (read: lose) money by throwing it at the dodgiest listings on the dodgiest "exchanges" because they think they'll make money in an unregulated environment. And they complain about MPEX's barriers to entry! There are truly no limits to human greed." | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | "So then MPEX.co creates a barrier to entry by being extremely strict with listings, depending heavily on the WoT for trust and on GPG for contracts, and charging a 30 BTC fee to register as a trader (alternatively you can use a broker like CoinBr. This prevents scammy listings and (generally speaking) means that investors are of the sort that have money to invest and the rationale to think things through. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | waiting for the downvotes to commence :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | not yet, just posted it a few mins ago | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | so I pointed out that there already *is* an exchange with barriers to entry to prevent stupidity, but that "everyone" complains about it and then wonders why they get scammed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | yes - and hilariously there's now a call for regulation and barriers to entry | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/cgwetpq?context=3 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | 10am here | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | ancient Greece or dusty motherboard: http://i.imgur.com/97UageG.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | http://antonopoulos.com/2014/04/18/neo-bee-a-statement-by-andreas-m-antonopoulos-a-consultants-perspective/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-19 | fluffypony | morning | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | sleep time, cheers | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | take with a pinch of salt and make up our own mind | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | right, so sort by rating, talk to those with the most positive and most negative stories | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | thus the issue only arises when n(2) maintains a microscopic view and disregards the WoT in favour of observed or hearsay indications of "trust" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | one would hope so | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | so if n(2) had a macroscopic view they would see the rating given by n(1) ? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | so then is it a matter of macroscopic vs. microscopic views of the WoT as it relates to a single entity within the WoT? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | thestringpuller: I regularly provide lulz at market rates | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: I have friends who are giant apes, so that's ok then :) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | but he seems like a nice bloke | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | Ishmael sure does a lot of frowning | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: "Bitcoiners’ sotyr" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | but I'll give it a spin | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | it's 10:30 and I'm 3/4 of a bottle of wine down, so not sure if I'll appreciate an article that consists of more than 4 paragraphs | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | bitcoinpete: is this one also long? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | it was fun, and I enjoyed the food/booze there significantly more than like 95% of the restaurants/takeout places I was hauled off to in St. Louis | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | cool | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: I don't know - it was in May 2010? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | * | fluffypony saw a handful of Cards games | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | make me do actual work on a Friday night | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | fine | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: plz explain like I'm not a baseball person? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | mrstickball: agreed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | danielpbarron: don't get me wrong, I love the idea of a decentralised exchange, but the idea of just about anyone anonymously running an unregistered, unregulated company just seems to be asking for trouble | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | that's that thing that allows you to "invest" in anonymous "companies" that don't need to demonstrate they have any ability to earn money, right? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html - apparently it's a thing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | that's insane | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | http://elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wcd.jpeg | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | what is this sheldonthomas doing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I'm not an advanced enough AI to use an Autodesk product | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | SketchUp | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | no no no...she's lovingly rendered | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: well, I didn't want to say it, but.... | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | TestingUnoDosTre: rats + sinking ship | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | but I didn't really have the urge to fly to China and setup a QC/manufacturing structure for a product that I didn't know would sell well | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | not as cheap as China | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | manufacturing here is dirt cheap | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | * | fluffypony hugs assbot | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | to be fair, our post office's EMS shipments have been amazing and reasonably priced (they charge on actual weight, not volumetric, and deliveries have been 5-9 days worldwide) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and people can get it in 3 days instead of 3 months | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | saves all that hassle | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | that's why we've now got a US and an EU distributor | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | at any rate | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | their postal service pricing is better than ours | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | * | fluffypony nods | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and that they can ship stuff from China for 1/10th of the price and 80x the weight and it arrives in 2 days | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | you still have idiots that insist it's impossible | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | even when people confirm the timeline: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-openrigs-com-aluminium-frames-for-mining-rigs.262873/page-15#post-5692124 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | it's the guy with an $80 order that complains the loudest | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | all the guys with large orders (>$500) are chilled, because they read the timelines during checkout, they understood how long it could take | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | then suddenly 10 weeks | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | 5 weeks to the UK | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | because it's unpredictable as well | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | a lot of people complained, and we removed the shipping option | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | so | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and there's literally nothing you can do in the interim | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | but they do take ~10 weeks to the US | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | no, they all arrived, we haven't had a lost shipment yet | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and we shipped their order | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | of course, because it's the cheapest, like 70% of the people went for it | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | 2-3 months | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | it goes through the normal routing, but by ship, so it's extremely slow | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | but it's not by ship directly to the destination port | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | which is basically over the sea | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | when we launched we had a shipping option called surface mail | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | oh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | apparently I'm a support channel | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: already replied | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cp8h/my_take_on_what_happened_with_neo_bee_after/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and if you have a charming enough frontman you can be convinced of many things | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | afaik he went to Cyprus | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | mrstickball: with Neo&Bee there was due diligence from ThickAsThieves among others | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | TestingUnoDosTre: nobody does tranches, and when they do they generally do it badly | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I think it's an interesting proposition | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and by high I'm not referring to stature | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | or "must be this high to stick arm in woodchipper" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and there's always going to be another ProtoShares or BitcoinBourse or whatever | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: there are always going to be *new* people with arms to stick in woodchippers | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | well, it wouldn't make spending too difficult (maybe make it a 3 of N multisig, for eg., or even less - 2 of N), but to make scamming more difficult and thus require not only the manipulation of the market but also the manipulation of the (more competent) investor pool | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | who will control the keys to that wallet (along with the CEO/CFO/chief bigwig/whatever) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and have a small supervisory board elected among the shareholders | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | suggested that future IPOs could use a multi-sig wallet for funds raised | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | someone http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/cgvnixi?context=1 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | so on the back of this Neo&Bee scam | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | how can we be of excellent service | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | hi sheldonthomas | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I hope he does | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | ah crap | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | !up sheldonthomas | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: you around? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | actually he's been idle for 5 hours | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | artifexd: so say we all | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | "Danny Brewster was GOX'ED. His creditors and employees were BEE'ED. If YOU don't want to be LOCAL'ED, CBASE'D or BITSTAMP'ED please, please, please with sugar on top, check out the new Armory cold storage wallet" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | heh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | Apocalyptic: yeah, but that just screams scammy | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I never understood the need to IPO on multiple exchanges | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | maybe they live in hope | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | the timing does seem to be interesting | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I'll hazard that he has a lot more on his person, but let's see | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | welp | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: what's mpex's stance/your thoughts on companies that raise funds in BTC, but then don't only accept payment in BTC (and thus possibly being profitable from a fiat perspective, but not entirely from a BTC perspective) ? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | maybe just to screw with us he'll move some of those old coins around in like 2040 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | for that book you're writing? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | ed zachery | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: serious question or joke? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | we can rebuild it. we have the technology. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | lol ArsKisS, I'm not responsible for gribble, I was just explaining the rationale | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | tell nanotube then | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | still happens on a nearly daily basis | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | and it has to be there because so many people join, get pm'd, and get scammed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | not an -assets thing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | ArsKisS: that's an -otc thing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | there :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | assbot: amazing point! | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | I get your point | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | they also provide the ISBN if there isn't one already | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | http://www.smashwords.com/distribution | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | they do the distribution | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | "We work on commission. We don't charge for our ebook publishing, conversion and distribution services, and we don't sell publishing packages. We earn our commission only if we sell your book, and our commission is only 15% or less of the net, which works out to 10% of the retail price when your book sells at our retailers. For example, a $10.00 ebook sold at one of our retail partners earns you $6.00 and earns Smashwords $1.00. The same | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | book sold at Smashwords earns you about $8.00." | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | they take comm on sales | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | they don't charge | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | especially for overseas authors | #trilema |
| 2014-04-18 | fluffypony | although it could be an interesting proposition to them | #trilema |