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00:01 TestingUnoDosTre Low volume, price dropping
00:03 joecool hm
00:04 cgcardona_ yea 'spike' last coupla days and now coolin off.
00:08 thestringpuller TestingUnoDosTre:
00:08 thestringpuller $depth mpoe
00:08 mpexbot thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['12950 @ 0.00098156', '16798 @ 0.00098102', '10873 @ 0.00097965', '3269 @ 0.00097456', '29200 @ 0.00097379']
00:08 mpexbot thestringpuller: Asks: ['24891 @ 0.00098344', '3000 @ 0.00098435', '6450 @ 0.00098939', '11200 @ 0.00099063', '20780 @ 0.00099203']
00:08 TestingUnoDosTre Gracias
00:08 thestringpuller it's cause of the conference
00:09 TestingUnoDosTre That's what I was thinking
00:09 thestringpuller .0011 is the upper limit
00:10 thestringpuller it'll probably go crazy again tomorrow
00:10 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
00:10 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00096891 / 0.00098215 / 0.00101 (315271 shares, 309.64 BTC), 7D: 0.00095065 / 0.000966 / 0.00101 (3427477 shares, 3,310.97 BTC), 30D: 0.00080946 / 0.00095162 / 0.00101 (20403529 shares, 19,416.61 BTC)
00:10 TestingUnoDosTre Is tomorrow VIP or public?
00:11 TestingUnoDosTre What's with the slashes?
00:11 thestringpuller low average high
00:11 TestingUnoDosTre Low ave high?
00:11 TestingUnoDosTre Gotcha
00:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00098156 = 8.1469 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.501 BTC [-]
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00:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.004997 = 0.1999 BTC [-]
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01:15 thestringpuller ;;ticker
01:15 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 473.75, Best ask: 474.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 474.62, 24 hour volume: 12563.33651067, 24 hour low: 470.0, 24 hour high: 506.97, 24 hour vwap: 482.543433306
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01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-]
02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1113 @ 0.0001729 = 0.1924 BTC [-] {3}
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02:24 bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu: that must've been the stupid spam-blocker i tried adding recently. it's now deactivated. i'm vaguely familiar with the gentlemanliness of middle ages aristocratic rivalries. sounds lovely, really. far more pleasant than the tyrannical populi or tyrannical khans bookending it.
02:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5011001 = 5.011 BTC [+] {2}
02:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00098344 = 5.6056 BTC [+]
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02:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10873 @ 0.00097965 = 10.6517 BTC [-]
02:58 jurov morning
02:59 fluffypony morning
03:03 fluffypony http://antonopoulos.com/2014/04/18/neo-bee-a-statement-by-andreas-m-antonopoulos-a-consultants-perspective/
03:03 ozbot Neo & Bee – A Statement By Andreas M. Antonopoulos – A consultant’s perspective | Andreas M. A
03:05 HeySteve hello
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03:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5001 BTC [-]
03:31 fluffypony ancient Greece or dusty motherboard: http://i.imgur.com/97UageG.jpg
03:35 HeySteve ha
03:35 HeySteve going with motherboard
03:36 HeySteve hmm, I should lay out my garden with hedges and such in the form of my GPU
03:37 fluffypony lol
03:43 HeySteve been levelling it out for a badmington court
03:52 * jurov held cardano boards in his hands last night
03:52 jurov #uaskweleak
03:56 HeySteve I read about this device
03:56 HeySteve good to hear it's a thing
04:06 * mircea_popescu pulls up the logs to see who's been up early
04:07 mircea_popescu !up vcorem
04:07 assbot Voicing vcorem for 30 minutes.
04:07 mircea_popescu hey there.
04:09 mircea_popescu o hai jurov
04:09 jurov hey
04:09 jurov 10am is early? lol
04:09 mircea_popescu pretty cool the faraday cages asciilifeform came up with huh.
04:09 mircea_popescu yes it is for me!
04:09 mircea_popescu (also it's 11)
04:10 jurov i was here hour ago
04:10 mircea_popescu this is true
04:10 fluffypony 10am here
04:10 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/804/obama-will-mention-bitcoin-before-2015/#c2833
04:10 ozbot BitBet - Obama will mention Bitcoin before 2015
04:10 mircea_popescu "what if he pronounces it wrong" lmao
04:11 jurov many ppl atound here write it as "bitcoint"
04:11 mircea_popescu i got this comment link from mod was all like omgwtfbbq fml!
04:11 jurov *around
04:12 fluffypony mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23cjd9/the_full_picture_of_former_neo_bee_employees/cgwetpq?context=3
04:12 mircea_popescu is this the reddit where it turns out the "cfo" never got any accounts etc ?
04:13 mircea_popescu myeah.
04:13 fluffypony yes - and hilariously there's now a call for regulation and barriers to entry
04:14 mircea_popescu herpderp. reddit calls.
04:14 mircea_popescu HeySteve: hmm, I should lay out my garden with hedges and such in the form of my GPU << then you could dress as an electron and run around there to mine.
04:14 fluffypony so I pointed out that there already *is* an exchange with barriers to entry to prevent stupidity, but that "everyone" complains about it and then wonders why they get scammed
04:15 mircea_popescu didja get downvoted ?
04:15 fluffypony not yet, just posted it a few mins ago
04:15 fluffypony waiting for the downvotes to commence :-P
04:15 mircea_popescu "Danny’s plans before any of us came on board, were shortsighted on multiple levels. What kept us together through it all, was not the brilliance of the plan, but the coherence and communication of the assembled team and its skill sets. "
04:15 mircea_popescu fucktards these people.
04:15 fluffypony "So then MPEX.co creates a barrier to entry by being extremely strict with listings, depending heavily on the WoT for trust and on GPG for contracts, and charging a 30 BTC fee to register as a trader (alternatively you can use a broker like CoinBr. This prevents scammy listings and (generally speaking) means that investors are of the sort that have money to invest and the rationale to think things through.
04:15 fluffypony And yet many people hate those barriers to entry and want to invest (read: lose) money by throwing it at the dodgiest listings on the dodgiest "exchanges" because they think they'll make money in an unregulated environment. And they complain about MPEX's barriers to entry! There are truly no limits to human greed."
04:15 mircea_popescu there's a post abouit how communication is inexistent,
04:16 mircea_popescu under it, an explanation claiming that it was the communication that kept them together
04:16 mircea_popescu the general population is in incontrovertible point of fact too stupid to live.
04:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00097686 = 3.4679 BTC [-]
04:18 fluffypony on the topic of stupidity - you mentioned in a post that clever people learn by observation, and stupid people learn by direct experience...but I'm not sure if I agree that every lesson *can* be learnt by observation
04:18 mircea_popescu why not ?
04:19 mircea_popescu the space of observation stands with the space of experience roughly in the relation integers stand with reals
04:19 mircea_popescu hm, maybe that was opaque. what's your background fluffypony ?
04:20 fluffypony academically not maths - informatics and logistics, so only a smattering of maths
04:20 mircea_popescu ah
04:20 fluffypony maybe I'm not understanding how "learn" and "mistake" are defined contextually
04:20 fluffypony as an example
04:21 fluffypony a new business wants to do advertising
04:21 fluffypony the CEO/manager/whatever does a ton of research, and realises it is his not his expertise
04:21 fluffypony so he researches and finds a domain expert
04:21 fluffypony and pays for some consultation
04:21 mircea_popescu ok. the math-y thing i was refering too you'll prolly get if you read http://trilema.com/2014/its-not-the-sauce-its-the-poultry-and-other-metamathematical-considerations/
04:22 mircea_popescu basically, infinities are not all created equal, some are much larger than others.
04:22 fluffypony the expert advises on radio advertising, and they spend $100k on radio advertising
04:22 fluffypony which doesn't translate into clicks, and they then *learn* from that *mistake* that they should have spent the $100k on online advertising instead
04:22 mircea_popescu which was kinda the idea, there's an infinite space for experience, and in every iota of it there's an infinite space for observation.
04:22 fluffypony so where in that process is the mistake?
04:22 * fluffypony clicks to read
04:22 mircea_popescu the mistake does not exist :D
04:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12876 @ 0.00097686 = 12.578 BTC [-]
04:22 mircea_popescu this is why it's so difficult to find.
04:23 fluffypony yeah
04:24 jurov if it was major chunk of budget, it can be labeled as mistake
04:24 fluffypony jurov: that I agree with
04:24 fluffypony he should have tested the waters with a small budget and measured the results
04:25 mircea_popescu if they learn from that mistake that "they should have x instead" they're prolly pretty dumb anyway.
04:25 mircea_popescu maybe they should have hired A cup chicks to dance in a circle around roger ver, in their underwear.
04:25 fluffypony lol
04:26 mircea_popescu for instance, take danny brewester's rookie mistake
04:26 mircea_popescu (to be clear, since he's made so many : the one where he bought out all the advertising in a market, for a day)
04:26 mircea_popescu now, what's to be learned from there ?
04:27 fluffypony which rookie mistake are we talking about - the advertising one or another one?
04:27 mircea_popescu the former
04:27 fluffypony don't advertise when you don't even have a product
04:27 fluffypony marketing is the last link in the chain, not the first
04:28 mircea_popescu not a bad one.
04:29 mircea_popescu alternatively, they could have learned that advertising is the corporate equivalent of the cock measuring competition, and you don't buy it out of proportion to your market share unless you are significantly more capitalised than the average.
04:29 mircea_popescu neobee did not have more money than the average cypriot bank, and so a media overbuy strategy was a loser.
04:29 fluffypony yeah agreed
04:30 mircea_popescu well so now... vastly different lessons available from experience.
04:31 mircea_popescu and you still have to observe your own experience.
04:31 mircea_popescu so, while it's true that not every lesson can be learned from experience (usually because humans are too attached to their own, ego-defensive processing of experience), definitely any lesson can be learned from observation.
04:32 mircea_popescu and even mutually incompatible lessons, for that matter.
04:32 fluffypony I agree with that
04:32 mircea_popescu finally, they could have learned that you do not grow rich by overpaying, and that retail is for suckers.
04:33 mircea_popescu both rather useful life lessons, and the more likely to be learned.
04:33 fluffypony heh
04:33 mircea_popescu that's what truely separates the wayward (ie, erroneous) from the outright imbecilic (ie, rookie) : he didn't even fucking bother to get a good deal.
04:34 fluffypony yeah, when you have buying power and you don't leverage it that's just idiotic
04:34 mircea_popescu he had all the leverage he could possibly imaginably have : he didn't need a fixed date ; he was x-buying anyway. the publishers had nothing, he could have gotten any deal he wanted.
04:34 mircea_popescu but he didn't have brains enough to ask even, let alone push for it.
04:35 fluffypony also I'm not sure why everyone bought his spiel about being an early BTC/LTC adopter, there wasn't any evidence of that; his lack of technical understanding of cryptocurrency fundamentals would point to the opposite
04:37 mircea_popescu they all claim that sorta shit. this is part of why you don't want teenaged officers : they have issues with approval, and they seek it the wrong ways in the wrong venues.
04:38 mircea_popescu instead of seeking mine, he went seeking the publishers'. well fucking hell obivously they'll approve you giving them free money.
04:38 fluffypony yeah
04:38 mircea_popescu also breeds this habint of obtaining it by lying (like the early adopter stuff) which is pernicious, because it creats the habit of lying.
04:38 mircea_popescu sort-of like metadrugs.
04:38 fluffypony heh
04:39 mircea_popescu guy becomes unable to motivate himself : why put in half hour of work to learn how to crochet
04:39 mircea_popescu when you could claim you're an intenrational crochet champion, to the mouth gaping amazement of everyone.
04:39 mircea_popescu then next week you're also a horse riding expert
04:39 fluffypony hah hah
04:39 mircea_popescu and within half a year just the rent extracted from you by all this bullshit
04:40 mircea_popescu cause of course it needs to be supported, you end up having to leave town in the middle of some crisis because you think people expect you to go to the crochet championship next town over or w/e
04:40 fluffypony yeah
04:40 mircea_popescu the rent becomes 90% of all your expenditure, and wd! you've created a new us.
04:40 mircea_popescu incidentally, read the old pirate stuff, exactly the same broken sort of personality.
04:41 HeySteve I'm watching a good film about a man who believes himself to be Sherlock Holmes, often the delusion is rooted in denial of some painful reality
04:42 mircea_popescu yeah. usually the painful reality being that one's, you know, 17.
04:43 fluffypony how old is Danny?
04:43 mircea_popescu twenties something.
04:43 fluffypony heh
04:44 mircea_popescu like the crinkle guy, except in fiat they don't let dorks trade on the company funds.
04:44 fluffypony everyone "started a company" in their twenties, it's just that when I did nobody would've invested in it (even if I'd asked)
04:44 mircea_popescu nothing wrong with that, sure.
04:45 fluffypony I must say, the one good thing about having spent a few years at a listed corporate is that you see all the red tape and regulatory crap
04:45 fluffypony and whilst everyone complains about it, you get to see why it's there
04:45 mircea_popescu people rarely spend much time complaining about something that has no good reason to exist.
04:45 mircea_popescu it'd have gone away by now, sort of thing.
04:45 fluffypony yep
04:47 fluffypony lol - "Herp Rating Agency is an initiative born out of the need for due diligence in the Bitcoin ecosystem.", but he gave Neo & Bee a "Buy Rating" a month ago
04:48 mircea_popescu "But Andreas Topulopulus , our God And Bitcoin Leader said we can trust him?"
04:48 mircea_popescu there's all these fucktards that imagine derping about how saying nigger is bad will suddenly qualify them to opine on matters.
04:49 mircea_popescu lol look who's here.
04:49 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: you missed your Twitter friend yesterday
04:49 mircea_popescu i was just about to say, people think they can do due diligence, but universally they can not. however, there's going to be a living to be made in the future for those who actulaly learn to.
04:50 kakobrekla sup
04:50 fluffypony kakobrekla: morning
04:51 mircea_popescu kakobrekla my tits!
04:51 kakobrekla :*
04:51 mircea_popescu lol
04:52 jurov lol
04:52 jurov !b 4
04:52 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1786327/plain/)
04:52 mircea_popescu !up ThickAsThieves
04:52 assbot Voicing ThickAsThieves for 30 minutes.
04:52 mircea_popescu !down assbot
04:52 assbot I don't do bots, mircea_popescu.
04:53 ThickAsThieves test
04:53 ThickAsThieves weird, the first comment after you upped me didnt get thru
04:54 mircea_popescu cuz what counts is when assbot gets around to doing it, not when i say it.
04:54 mircea_popescu we're like a polity over here, and assbot is the bureaucracy. we can pass whatever resolutions we want...
04:54 ThickAsThieves ;;assbotlag
04:54 gribble Error: "assbotlag" is not a valid command.
04:54 mircea_popescu ;;echo assbot, you better behave or it's the ass boot camp for you matey!
04:54 gribble assbot, you better behave or it's the ass boot camp for you matey!
04:55 fluffypony oh I miss the goxlag days
04:55 jurov ;;goxlag
04:55 gribble Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
04:55 ThickAsThieves gribble can talk now too?
04:55 ThickAsThieves we're fucked
04:55 jurov .ozbot
04:55 jurov .bait
04:55 ozbot http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mamtxnMUwJ1qcs7dao1_500.jpg
04:55 mircea_popescu http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/04/19/law-is-not-scary/
04:55 ozbot Law is not scary | Preston Byrne
04:55 mircea_popescu anyone know this kid ?
04:56 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b31 this is gonna be a bet to watch i guess
04:56 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June
04:56 mircea_popescu kinds funny how contrarian people are in their betting.
04:56 ThickAsThieves indeed
04:58 ThickAsThieves maybe they are hedging
04:59 ThickAsThieves is anyone we know even doing any respectable due diligence in any shape or form?
05:02 jurov ;;ud due diligence
05:02 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=due+diligence | Due Diligence is a term used for a number of concepts involving either the performance of an investigation of a business or person, or the performa...
05:02 ozbot Urban Dictionary: due diligence
05:02 ThickAsThieves jurov is doing his due diligence on due diligence
05:03 jurov i was hoping that hipstrs redefined it already
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 211 @ 0.00232768 = 0.4911 BTC [-] {40}
05:03 jurov but they haven't headr at all
05:03 jurov *heard
05:03 HeySteve speaking of due diligence, what is the WoT etiquette on a big name who doesn't wish to auth?
05:04 ThickAsThieves fluffypony:on the topic of stupidity - you mentioned in a post that clever people learn by observation, and stupid people learn by direct experience...but I'm not sure if I agree that every lesson *can* be learnt by observation // well, NEW experiences can't be learned by observation, generally
05:04 ThickAsThieves but "new" experiences need to more than new-to-you
05:04 jurov HeySteve: look no futher that to ThickAsThieves here
05:04 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: yesh
05:05 ThickAsThieves this also goes in hand with mp's past comments on advising to make mistakes people havent made already, thereby adding to the trove of things we know won't work
05:06 fluffypony HeySteve: it depends - if you're trading with them then they generally have to auth; whilst you can check with nickserv if they have enforce on and are identified Freenode have said that it's possible NS passwords were leaked coz of heartbleed
05:06 HeySteve this is my exact concern, yes
05:06 HeySteve not a trading situation but journalistic
05:07 fluffypony HeySteve: so mention at the outset of the article that the quotes may be unsubstantiated because of reasons mentioned above?
05:08 HeySteve thanks, that makes sense. nothing else for it really
05:09 ThickAsThieves or ask the person to sign properly if it's important
05:09 ThickAsThieves etc
05:10 HeySteve that I have, no dice. verified email tho. I'm perhaps being extra cautious as it will be a big story
05:11 HeySteve I believe the most expensive item yet trading for btc
05:11 ThickAsThieves :/
05:17 kakobrekla 11:11.29 ( +jurov ) many ppl atound here write it as "bitcoint" < same here, but 'bitcoind' but they are not meanin the daemon.
05:20 jurov even worse "betececka" "betececky"
05:21 jurov (while "cecky" means tits)
05:21 kakobrekla lol
05:27 ThickAsThieves i left something icky for ya'll:
05:27 ThickAsThieves "You probably didn’t stop flying because you have to go through airport screeners, take off your shoes, let your laptop be X-rayed and your luggage possibly rummaged through by security personnel. You shouldn’t close your business either. Instead, level with your customers, tell them what the government is capable of doing, and allow them make up their own minds as to whether to do business with you or not.
05:27 ThickAsThieves Revelations aside, nothing has changed. The NSA monitored communications well before Edward Snowden leaked documents to Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. It has long had the power of the subpoena to compel a business to hand over records and documents.
05:27 ThickAsThieves Shutting down won’t accomplish much. Staying open just might."
05:28 ThickAsThieves ignore where i said "i left"
05:28 ThickAsThieves he's speaking on Lavabit
05:29 ThickAsThieves more snippets here: http://pando.com/2014/04/18/lavabit-creator-held-in-contempt-for-making-a-tiny-tiny-point/
05:34 kakobrekla the gathering is at 2?
05:35 ThickAsThieves yessir
05:36 kakobrekla kk
05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00097686 = 3.9074 BTC [-]
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 139 @ 0.00084637 = 0.1176 BTC [+] {3}
05:47 kakobrekla !up ThickAsThieves
05:47 assbot Voicing ThickAsThieves for 30 minutes.
05:48 ThickAsThieves but i already auth'd and upped myself i thought ...?
05:49 kakobrekla hm
05:49 kakobrekla do !up on pvt again
05:49 kakobrekla what does it say
05:50 kakobrekla aha
05:50 kakobrekla !up ThickAsThieves
05:50 assbot Voice for ThickAsThieves extended to 30 minutes.
05:50 kakobrekla dafuq.
05:50 kakobrekla who made this shit
05:50 ThickAsThieves i am bcauth'd, if that helps
05:51 kakobrekla lemme check smth
05:52 kakobrekla hrm i dunno perhaps you found a corner case.
05:52 kakobrekla !down ThickAsThieves
05:52 kakobrekla up on pm now
05:53 kakobrekla now its perma.
05:54 ThickAsThieves "So bitbet joins the list of sxam sites. Moderators arbitrarily declaring in-time bets as late."
05:54 ThickAsThieves cool
05:54 ThickAsThieves it wasnt me!
05:54 kakobrekla lol that thing again
05:55 kakobrekla as i said, a 'fuck you' clause must be added.
05:56 Duffer1 is that from Uno?
05:56 kakobrekla lol did you guys see that Ukyo thread
05:56 kakobrekla apparently people are calling his wife and family now
05:56 kakobrekla must be fun
05:57 Duffer1 o,o
05:57 ThickAsThieves shitty
06:02 kakobrekla https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bitfunder-moving-forward-resolution-process.197576/page-74#post-5988234
06:02 kakobrekla and such
06:02 ozbot [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process | Page 74 | Bitcointa.lk
06:02 kakobrekla lol
06:03 kakobrekla "hi mom, your son owes us millions, can you cover for it ?"
06:09 fluffypony meh
06:09 fluffypony why do they think it'll make a difference calling his wife?
06:10 kakobrekla because she has the btc ofc.
06:11 fluffypony yeah
06:11 fluffypony she's hiding the privkeys in her snatch
06:11 fluffypony ok that was overly rude, I take that back :-P
06:12 kakobrekla http://www.humint.is/goxcoin/
06:12 ozbot Goxcoin - Humint
06:12 kakobrekla O_o
06:12 cazalla Duffer1: it's TestingUnoDosTre for sure
06:12 Duffer1 i was so offended i shall report thee to the internets police
06:13 Duffer1 didn't he get a refund?
06:13 cazalla yeah
06:13 cazalla clearly not enough for him
06:13 Duffer1 he got off LUCKY
06:13 fluffypony "Goxcoin would be issued on a one-to-one basis to trusted and verified accounts."
06:13 fluffypony lol
06:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
06:13 kakobrekla ping jurov
06:13 kakobrekla your friend is looking for you
06:14 cazalla Duffer1: agreed
06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22632 @ 0.00097379 = 22.0388 BTC [-]
06:25 fluffypony off to a beer fest I go, cheers
06:35 jurov kakobrekla: you in the bar or where?
06:36 jurov i felt like resting some more
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6568 @ 0.00097379 = 6.3959 BTC [-]
06:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00097178 = 23.5657 BTC [-] {2}
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07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27576 @ 0.00096972 = 26.741 BTC [-]
07:19 TestingUnoDosTre Earliest awake- 6:17 in Derpmerica
07:34 TestingUnoDosTre No that comment wasn't from me
07:34 TestingUnoDosTre I take it to the chat, not wherever you guys were looking
07:36 TestingUnoDosTre I would rather many more herpers and derpers flock to the site so I can take their hard earned btc
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07:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04599999 = 0.23 BTC [+] {5}
07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1656 @ 0.00097686 = 1.6177 BTC [+]
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06714999 = 0.1343 BTC [-]
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04633333 = 0.139 BTC [+] {3}
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
08:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
08:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6204 @ 0.00097884 = 6.0727 BTC [+]
08:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0465 = 0.186 BTC [+] {2}
08:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.02901175 = 0.116 BTC [-] {3}
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0465 = 0.186 BTC [+]
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.029002 = 0.116 BTC [-]
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0465 = 0.186 BTC [+]
08:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.029002 = 0.116 BTC [-]
08:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
08:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
08:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.029002 = 0.116 BTC [-]
08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
08:35 TestingUnoDosTre There was another person who's bet was submitted at the same time as mine. Most likely them
08:38 TestingUnoDosTre $depth MPOE
08:38 mpexbot TestingUnoDosTre: S.MPOE Bids: ['40246 @ 0.00098051', '34294 @ 0.00097857', '30300 @ 0.00097167', '21065 @ 0.00096972', '1000 @ 0.00095001']
08:39 mpexbot TestingUnoDosTre: Asks: ['18196 @ 0.00098059', '36000 @ 0.00098512', '6450 @ 0.00098939', '11200 @ 0.00099063', '20780 @ 0.00099203']
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09:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 597 @ 0.00018195 = 0.1086 BTC [+]
~ 32 minutes ~
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00098051 = 11.1288 BTC [+]
09:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53200 @ 0.00098357 = 52.3259 BTC [+] {2}
10:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21139 @ 0.00098051 = 20.727 BTC [-]
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10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04533334 = 0.136 BTC [-] {3}
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
10:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 49 @ 0.0742218 = 3.6369 BTC [-]
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06601 = 0.132 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00496216 = 0.1836 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
10:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.0049111 = 0.4125 BTC [-] {2}
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11:11 TomServo .d
11:11 ozbot 6.979 billion | Next Diff in 1716 blocks | Estimated Change: 9.4498% in 10d 18h 47m 54s
11:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7446 @ 0.00098881 = 7.3627 BTC [+] {2}
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.067138 = 0.1343 BTC [+]
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00500999 = 0.1002 BTC [+]
11:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14857 @ 0.00099011 = 14.7101 BTC [+]
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.50001 = 5.0001 BTC [+]
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12:00 benkay mornin
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.07119720 BTC to 8`524 shares, 36030 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
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12:18 benkay ;;later tell bitcoinpete hey didja know that if you have an avatar.png at the root of your domain it'll show up on trilema as your avatar?
12:18 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:26 benkay http://tohjiro.tumblr.com/image/82780835734
12:26 ozbot All Flesh Is Erotic Flesh: Photo
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.5 = 6.5 BTC [-] {2}
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1522 @ 0.00013629 = 0.2074 BTC [-]
12:47 cgcardona_ yo
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13:02 benkay hi
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.06598382 = 1.9795 BTC [-] {6}
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06590245 = 0.659 BTC [-] {2}
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06590253 = 0.659 BTC [+]
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
13:24 cgcardona_ been working all morning getting image transitions to work w/ css from this tutorial http://css3.bradshawenterprises.com/cfimg/
13:25 cgcardona_ It's pretty sweet to move that from JS into CSS
13:25 cgcardona_ makes the code much more terse and easier to mentally digest IMO
13:26 cgcardona_ seemingly better seperation of concerns though you still need to toggle classes with JS to trigger them so it's not entirely cleanly seperated.
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.06590253 = 0.3954 BTC [+]
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13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
~ 28 minutes ~
14:17 fluffypony cgcardona_: CSS gives me a headache...I'm definitely not a front-end person from that perspective
14:18 cgcardona_ sure but what are the other options
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2693 @ 0.00098487 = 2.6523 BTC [-]
14:18 cgcardona_ the whole web stack is a rube goldberg machine if ever there were one
14:19 cgcardona_ got the w3c and ecma standardizing different languages
14:19 cgcardona_ got `background-color` in CSS and `backgroundColor` in the DOM
14:19 cgcardona_ shit is cray cray
14:20 cgcardona_ I was in the HTML5 working group in the W3C and got to see the red tape up front.
14:20 cgcardona_ one of the most passionate group of people I've ever met but legendary red-tape
14:20 cgcardona_ and bureaucracy
14:21 cgcardona_ but Tim Berners Lee is one of the most humble people that I've me who've accomplished that much IMO
14:21 cgcardona_ I met him at a W3C plenary meeting so it's possible he was extra relaxed in that environment but he was super kind.
14:27 fluffypony I'm quite jealous - would love to meet him one day
14:27 fluffypony you're right, there aren't other options
14:27 fluffypony I just don't "get" CSS
14:27 fluffypony I'm forced to dabble, so the nature of it eludes me
14:28 fluffypony and invariably I end up in ##css asking for help :-P
14:36 cgcardona_ oksushi in #css is an OG css ninja. not sure if he still hangs there these days.
14:37 cgcardona_ ;;rate fluffypony 1 seen often in #btc-assets
14:37 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fluffypony has been recorded.
14:39 fluffypony ;;rate cgcardona_ 1 bitcoin-assets regular
14:39 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cgcardona_ has been recorded.
14:40 cgcardona_ I got two shots w/ Timbl & my son http://i.imgur.com/8CmOHmZ.jpg && http://i.imgur.com/0erLCdQ.jpg </not so humble brag>
14:41 fluffypony lol neat
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04434039 = 0.2217 BTC [-] {4}
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0668 = 0.2004 BTC [-]
14:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00099089 = 13.7238 BTC [+] {2}
14:50 cgcardona_ ;;ticker
14:50 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 502.44, Best ask: 503.59, Bid-ask spread: 1.15000, Last trade: 503.59, 24 hour volume: 9381.75540973, 24 hour low: 472.81, 24 hour high: 507.43, 24 hour vwap: 490.16918288
~ 19 minutes ~
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001308 = 0.1308 BTC [-]
~ 36 minutes ~
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06689999 = 0.1338 BTC [+] {2}
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0669 = 0.1338 BTC [+]
15:56 thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo
15:56 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> fluffypony: That'd be Busch III, first season there was in 2006
15:56 thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo how'd you feel about that movie money ball?
15:56 gribble The operation succeeded.
~ 25 minutes ~
16:22 turbo_ac100 This has MP written all over it: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/reactos-community-edition/contributions/new?perk_amt=50000&perk_id=1864501
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16:50 dignork turbo_ac100: open source windows clone? I have to admit, I looked at their source code once, while trying to figure out some windows undocumented functionality, but rewriting outdated OS, what for?
16:50 midnightmagic Are they planning some kind of XP-like forever-support?
16:51 midnightmagic Maybe they're going to take all the XP customers who hate anything that's happened since.
16:51 midnightmagic *"users"
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0049107 = 0.1228 BTC [-]
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00099013 = 16.7827 BTC [-]
17:11 bounce compare freedos. an unencumbered drop-in replacement for an obsolete proprietary system. what's the point of that?
17:13 bounce useful to boot all sorts of dos diagnostics, flash utilities, whatnot. useful for games. the odd dos-only application that's critical to the business and irreplacable. and so on. same with reactos, except with a more recent and more widely used application base.
17:17 fluffypony especially for games
17:17 fluffypony OS X and Linux are not winning in that space atm
17:18 fluffypony a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all the gunk pulled out would be nice
17:27 thestringpuller fluffypony: a slim copy of ReactOS with DirectX working and all the gunk pulled out would be nice << i've been sayin' that for years lol
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
17:29 joecool i thought directx code was merged into wine like a year or two ago
17:30 turbo_ac100 midnightmagic: Yeah that's why I think the timing is good for ReactOS. Now with XP being axed for the nth time.
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.00684636 = 0.1027 BTC [+] {5}
17:30 fluffypony joecool: yeah, we're discussing the "what for" part of dignork's comment
17:30 thestringpuller joecool: it really doesn't work...
17:31 thestringpuller i have so many glitches, so i run legit windows for steam...
17:33 turbo_ac100 Problem is they won't be 100% XP anytime soon so it won't even be good enough for most people.
17:34 fluffypony turbo_ac100: but for LoB applications it's already pretty good
17:34 turbo_ac100 LoB?
17:34 fluffypony oh sorry - Line of Business
17:35 fluffypony so domain specific, company specific apps
17:35 fluffypony that are expensive to rewrite
17:35 turbo_ac100 hmkay. There is a good niche for them already then.
17:35 * fluffypony nods
17:36 turbo_ac100 Question for those companys is: Why not use win7/8
17:36 fluffypony upgrade $$$
17:36 fluffypony also some of those apps may be really old - Windows NT stuff
17:37 joecool does it really matter anymore, i thought steam was going all linux and MS pissed off the devs with the windows 8 directx stuf
17:37 joecool *stuff
17:37 fluffypony turbo_ac100: http://www.asiteaboutnothing.net/c_16bit-virtualization.html
17:37 fluffypony the only way to run 16-bit apps in Vista+ is through a VM
17:37 fluffypony or stick with XP
17:38 turbo_ac100 oh
17:38 turbo_ac100 ~10 lines in "Here is the quick workaround: Install DosBox." lol
17:38 fluffypony lol
17:39 fluffypony I've seen a LOT of LoB apps where they abstracted the business logic from the display/interface
17:39 fluffypony the business logic stays as a 16-bit DLL/tray app
17:39 fluffypony and the front-end gets a modern overhaul
17:39 turbo_ac100 this is madness...
17:40 fluffypony so then you're stuck on unsupported XP for a long time till that layer can get re-written
17:41 fluffypony April 2009 – September 2010 (1 year 6 months) Newlands
17:41 fluffypony Convert Banking systems written in MANTIS to COBOL under CICS using customised conversion tool and Microfocus Cobol.
17:41 fluffypony ^^ modern banking upgrades
17:42 fluffypony "we've moved to COBOL to keep it in line with our other systems"
17:43 turbo_ac100 COBOL a'ight
17:44 thestringpuller lol reminds me of TSYS TS1 platform
17:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3722 @ 0.00099203 = 3.6923 BTC [+]
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18:36 dignork fluffypony: COBOL, allright, but on way hopefully they moved from dbase-style to relational DB, i've seen this happening in some insurance company
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06674 = 0.1335 BTC [-]
18:48 bounce if I had a choice I'd much prefer my (expensive!) equipment be steered by something unix-y, but if that's Just Too Hard for the people designing the machinery I'll take an open source windows drop-in replacement. better for long term support and all that
18:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02970872 = 0.208 BTC [+] {6}
18:50 bounce on that note, often manufacturers explicitly forbid to install updates and servicepacks since it might well break the app. gotta love brittle "engineering" (by certified engineers!) like that. I don't suppose there's embedded software consultancy houses that'll do stress testing on the programs to see they'll stand up to such outlandish weirness as running without admin rights and still function after hotfixes get installed and such.
18:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45677 @ 0.00098832 = 45.1435 BTC [-] {3}
18:53 cgcardona_ someone invented the wot! http://bitcoinmagazine.com/12469/bitcorati-hub-bitcoin-community/ !1!!1
19:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04430003 = 0.1772 BTC [-]
19:06 dignork bounce: equipment manufactuer won't give you a warranty if you use windows drop-in
19:10 dignork cgcardona_: it sounds more like "yellow pages with comments"
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06675 = 0.2003 BTC [+]
19:35 cgcardona_ ;;ticker
19:35 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 503.8, Best ask: 505.13, Bid-ask spread: 1.33000, Last trade: 503.8, 24 hour volume: 10320.24006568, 24 hour low: 472.81, 24 hour high: 507.43, 24 hour vwap: 492.582803785
~ 34 minutes ~
20:10 kakobrekla first post.
20:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00099034 = 10.151 BTC [+]
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 131 @ 0.00084829 = 0.1111 BTC [+]
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00098981 = 7.1266 BTC [-]
20:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00013006 = 1.9509 BTC [-] {7}
20:22 thestringpuller MPOE GOGOGO
20:24 thestringpuller ;;later tell benkay get a bouncer; i sent you gpg mail;
20:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.03066091 = 1.2878 BTC [+] {13}
20:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0443 = 0.2215 BTC [-]
20:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
20:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00098981 = 9.4032 BTC [-]
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00098843 = 11.8117 BTC [-] {2}
~ 19 minutes ~
21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.51001615 = 3.0601 BTC [+] {4}
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.51004949 = 1.0201 BTC [+]
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.500001 = 1 BTC [-]
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.5 = 9 BTC [-]
21:29 thestringpuller ;;ticker
21:29 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 503.79, Best ask: 504.15, Bid-ask spread: 0.36000, Last trade: 504.68, 24 hour volume: 8876.37646469, 24 hour low: 472.97, 24 hour high: 507.43, 24 hour vwap: 492.968681954
~ 15 minutes ~
21:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0009893 = 13.9986 BTC [+]
21:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00099014 = 9.3568 BTC [+]
21:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7853 @ 0.00099014 = 7.7756 BTC [+]
22:07 mod6 $vwap s.mpoe
22:07 mpexbot mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00098295 high: 0.00099203 low: 0.00096972 volume: 399031 btc: 392.22902789 7 day: average: 0.00096795 high: 0.00101 low: 0.00095214 volume: 3479584 btc: 3368.06667466 30 day: average: 0.00095305 high: 0.00101 low: 0.00082303 volume: 20667300 btc: 19696.9546047
~ 24 minutes ~
22:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03099999 = 0.279 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03099999 = 0.279 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.04428181 = 0.4871 BTC [-] {2}
22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7154 @ 0.0009893 = 7.0775 BTC [-]
~ 21 minutes ~
23:02 thestringpuller funny how dead this channel gets when the bitcoin illuminati aren't around
23:11 thestringpuller ;;later tell benkay sent you mail
23:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27036 @ 0.00099116 = 26.797 BTC [+] {3}
~ 16 minutes ~
23:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13246 @ 0.00098936 = 13.1051 BTC [-] {2}
23:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5566 @ 0.00098905 = 5.5051 BTC [-]
23:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00098786 = 26.9192 BTC [-] {3}
23:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32299 @ 0.0009871 = 31.8823 BTC [-] {2}
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