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00:05 BingoBoingo We all float on alright
00:08 BingoBoingo Du hast
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]
00:18 BingoBoingo Oh Chicago PD tonight... Why do all of the feds have stainless steel lockers...
00:23 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/meet-keysweeper-the-10-usb-charger-that-steals-ms-keyboard-strokes << microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor.
00:23 assbot Meet KeySweeper, the $10 USB charger that steals MS keyboard strokes | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2UAHR )
00:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I assume that is every charger
00:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Your new router seems to be getting mad props nao.
00:24 asciilifeform 'charger' was just the furniture used as mask.
00:27 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/obama-wants-congress-to-increase-prison-sentences-for-hackers << further lulz
00:27 assbot Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/155u4Ro )
00:27 BingoBoingo Coffee pot works as well, yes. /. thread proposing new router as single oard computer for the wrong reasons, mad lulz
00:28 asciilifeform link?
00:31 BingoBoingo http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/01/14/2028230/tiny-fanless-mini-pc-runs-linux-or-windows-on-quad-core-amd-soc
00:31 assbot Tiny Fanless Mini-PC Runs Linux Or Windows On Quad-core AMD SoC - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/155uK9k )
00:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ty
00:31 asciilifeform that's an x86 box
00:31 BingoBoingo Almost liek they want to poison the rep of the decent if not good
00:31 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You router is mentioned downthread
00:32 BingoBoingo Endorsers endorse it for bad/wrong reasons
00:33 asciilifeform not seeing it
00:33 asciilifeform nm
00:33 BingoBoingo "no karma" on mentioning posts
00:35 BingoBoingo So...
00:35 asciilifeform not that many vendors to choose from - if you want a fanless non-x86, non-arm box with >256M ram.
00:35 BingoBoingo mentions appear... clackholed
00:36 BingoBoingo *blackholed
00:39 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo actually ima write that up for qntra.
00:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Go for it.
00:46 BingoBoingo My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty
00:51 BingoBoingo !UP DreadKnight
00:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}
00:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}
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01:33 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: add keyserver to the list of things la serenissima wants its own of, eh? << heh sure, eventually.
01:34 mircea_popescu artifexd: <BingoBoingo> A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine << I like it << kinda how it has to work anyway
01:34 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah. I got that much from the convo. asciilifeform Was totally right about the thing living as streams of UDP piss
01:35 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: and now you found out that altcoin extremist are also bad ? << dude... you people are so hard to troll i swear. what sort of a cult are we running here out of this much internet savvy and genre savvy and whatnot! i think we're supposed to fall over backwards every time some random lolcow wanders in and says something nice.
01:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor. << OTP ? :D
01:39 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty << it finally dawned on me what cazalla wanted with domme chicks.
01:39 mircea_popescu get a busted lip, bust out 50 qntra articles in a rage.
01:39 BingoBoingo Seriously
01:41 BingoBoingo I'm not so picky. Just B cups and a big fat butt... I'm good on that.
01:41 BingoBoingo I bleed... She bleeds... that's just logistics
01:42 BingoBoingo Seriously looks like Obummer is going to push the E-patriot act though which sucks
01:43 mircea_popescu if a shit suddenly farts, is it shittier than before it farted ?
01:44 BingoBoingo No, It is just a shart, an awkward compromise
01:50 BingoBoingo #bitcoin-otc right nao: <BingoBoingo> Any thoughts or interest on order #21899
01:50 BingoBoingo <Dizzle> Well, possible there's a niceguy stevepn out there that FF took the name of for his dirty deeds. If he's authed, it's FF fo sho :P
01:50 BingoBoingo <Dizzle> ;;view 21899
01:50 BingoBoingo <gribble> #21899 Wed Jan 14 21:58:43 2015 BingoBoingo BUY 40.0 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor @ 1 BTC (Serious Inqueries only)
01:50 BingoBoingo <Dizzle> Why so cheap, BingoBoingo, is it a power hog?
01:50 BingoBoingo <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: that's ONE buy? what a weird combo. :)
01:50 BingoBoingo * Newyorkadam has quit (Quit: Newyorkadam)
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> Dizzle: Not cheap. I price BTC at fair market value. None of this roulette on whether Bitstamp can deliver bullshit.
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: Makes perfect sense. Naval reactors are reliable. Basically free electricity for 20 years
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> Also for cooling, weld some fins on and... ocean
01:50 BingoBoingo <Dizzle> ohh, you're buying, thought you were selling for a second. :D
01:50 BingoBoingo * ctx` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> Nah, I want the boat and hardware to fill it.
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> I'll buy higher than 1 BTC for what I want... But... I'm not gonna get Jew'd on this shit.
01:50 BingoBoingo <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: can civilians GET a working reactor? :P
01:50 mircea_popescu dude srsly...
01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: WHy not. I didn't personally sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
01:50 mircea_popescu pastebin wtf.
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01:50 BingoBoingo <BingoBoingo> And I will be Damned if Obola tries to negate my second amendment rights with treaty agreements.
01:51 BingoBoingo Eh, I know what I want to buy.
02:03 punkman http://italiastartupvisa.mise.gov.it/ "The Italian Government policy to attract innovative entrepreneurs from all over the world"
02:03 assbot Italia Startup Visa | main page ... ( http://bit.ly/1yeHHLo )
02:04 punkman "a KPMG report recently stated that “Made in Italy” is the 3rd best known brand in the world."
02:04 mircea_popescu ahaha
02:04 mircea_popescu they probably just intend to pickpocket them.
02:04 punkman big time
02:06 punkman "certified incubator"
02:06 mircea_popescu well, rome, capital of the rroma people.
02:07 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/ << mircea_popescu
02:07 assbot Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9OTFV )
02:07 fluffypony [09:06:09] <@Stalker>I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT
02:07 fluffypony [09:06:17] <@Stalker>Cosplay is modelling for the ugly girls
02:07 fluffypony !bash 2
02:07 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33HTVBM.txt )
02:07 mircea_popescu ahaha
02:07 mircea_popescu fluffypony they're more often fat than ugly, to put a... fine point on it.
02:07 fluffypony lol
02:08 punkman they hire professional models to cosplay in all the conventions these days
02:08 mircea_popescu howrysheeit look at it! mom, i made the papers!
02:09 mircea_popescu "Sometimes, rom and romani are spelled with a double r, i.e., rrom and rromani. In this case rr is used to represent the phoneme /ʀ/ (also written as ř and rh), which in some Romani dialects has remained different from the one written with a single r. " << actually, this is incorrect.
02:10 mircea_popescu the source of the double r in writing is that right at the time gypsies decided to yet again rename in the early 90s, there was circulating on romanian TV a reading of a caragiale novel (romani verzi) mocking a very nutty sort of nationalism current in his time, that was being read in a particularrrrr manerrrr by a certain comedian.
02:11 mircea_popescu this was immediately and universally applied to what was perceived as a silly and pompous notion of the minority in question.
02:25 BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski
02:25 pete_dushenski grazi!
02:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]
02:25 pete_dushenski i come bearing blog: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/14/its-time-for-post-post-modernity-to-mature-or-perish/
02:25 assbot It’s time for post-post-modernity to mature or perish. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9RVtO )
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]
02:27 pete_dushenski contravex: now sporting new quippy comment thingies on the sidebar!
02:27 BingoBoingo !up qntranet
02:27 BingoBoingo Hello qntranet
02:27 mircea_popescu so mucxh voice.
02:27 BingoBoingo How are you?
02:28 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski funny how scoopbot dies half hour before you come in lol
02:28 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu lol well scoopbot and i never really saw eye to eye
02:28 pete_dushenski just ask peterl
02:29 pete_dushenski the thing refused to recognise my extistence
02:29 mircea_popescu mebbe it has a crash on oyu.
02:29 pete_dushenski which is fine by me, i don't need no stinkin' bot taking my job!
02:29 BingoBoingo O.o PeterL does scoopbot want to fuck other Pete???
02:30 pete_dushenski it's all out war
02:30 pete_dushenski :)
02:31 mircea_popescu lol
02:32 fluffypony "journalism" at its finest: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/cirrus-bitcoin-bucks
02:32 assbot An Undercover Agent Was Making $1000 a Week in Bitcoin as a Silk Road Admin | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2Fzpt )
02:33 fluffypony 'Dread Pirate Roberts, or DRP, used the username “dread,”'
02:33 fluffypony because acronyms are hard
02:33 mircea_popescu iirc saw that in teh logs.
02:34 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu for no other reason than that i've observed it, i have to say that your blogs have been kinder and gentler of late
02:34 mircea_popescu apparently one admin was actually undercover agent, the official story now goes
02:34 BingoBoingo That's been they story for well over a month nao
02:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski the fact that i can't tell if you're straight or sarcastic is telling
02:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo but not originally.
02:34 pete_dushenski lol
02:35 pete_dushenski so, so telling
02:35 mircea_popescu so which was it ?
02:35 pete_dushenski i'm being straight!
02:35 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well originally in law Defense lawyer could have said no legally observed evil, but... evil judge...
02:35 pete_dushenski i can probably attribute a chunk of this to the acclimatisation process
02:35 pete_dushenski my lungs have adapted to the air up here
02:36 pete_dushenski the shock has worn off perhaps
02:37 pete_dushenski just as the "oh noes how come the education system never taught us xyz and instead pulled the wool over our eyes" reaction is weakening
02:38 mircea_popescu "The men who murdered Virginia's original twenty-six cemetery-occupants were never punished. Why? Because Alfred the Great, when he invented trial by jury and knew that he had admirably framed it to secure justice in his age of the world, was not aware that in the nineteenth century the condition of things would be so entirely changed that unless he rose from the grave and altered the jury plan to meet the emergency, i
02:38 mircea_popescu t would prove the most ingenious and infallible agency for defeating justice that human wisdom could contrive. For how could he imagine that we simpletons would go on using his jury plan after circumstances had stripped it of its usefulness, any more than he could imagine that we would go on using his candle-clock after we had invented chronometers? In his day news could not travel fast, and hence he could easily find
02:38 mircea_popescu a jury of honest, intelligent men who had not heard of the case they were called to try—but in our day of telegraphs and newspapers his plan compels us to swear in juries composed of fools and rascals, because the system rigidly excludes honest men and men of brains."
02:38 BingoBoingo "Laws, not men" bas birthed more evil than any other construction
02:38 mircea_popescu srsly, twain was complaining of it.
02:40 * BingoBoingo still finds "failed" tagalog a potentially more fruitful endeavor than that Chicom pidgin
02:48 BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz
02:49 moldysnizz hey bingo!
02:50 moldysnizz How's it been?
02:50 BingoBoingo Not bad
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03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00042219 = 19.3363 BTC [-] {3}
03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00042219 = 19.3363 BTC [-] {3}
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03:32 punkman http://www.gofundme.com/2015/01/13/gofundme-tops-kickstarter-as-worlds-1-crowdfunding-platform/
03:32 assbot GoFundMe Tops Kickstarter as World’s #1 Crowdfunding Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8O0Jf )
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04:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]
04:01 Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 31(Y):69(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,836.
04:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]
04:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1750 @ 0.00058 = 1.015 BTC [+]
04:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1750 @ 0.00058 = 1.015 BTC [+]
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04:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38251 @ 0.00042198 = 16.1412 BTC [-]
04:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38251 @ 0.00042198 = 16.1412 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00041483 = 9.3752 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}
05:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00041483 = 9.3752 BTC [-]
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}
05:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5900 @ 0.00058605 = 3.4577 BTC [+] {6}
05:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5900 @ 0.00058605 = 3.4577 BTC [+] {6}
05:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10047 @ 0.0005968 = 5.996 BTC [+] {4}
05:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10023 @ 0.00059691 = 5.9828 BTC [+] {3}
05:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8980 @ 0.00041483 = 3.7252 BTC [-]
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65800 @ 0.00040988 = 26.9701 BTC [-] {3}
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56820 @ 0.0004091 = 23.2451 BTC [-] {2}
05:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14430 @ 0.0004085 = 5.8947 BTC [-]
05:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63923 @ 0.00040781 = 26.0684 BTC [-] {3}
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68970 @ 0.0004061 = 28.0087 BTC [-] {3}
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19477 @ 0.00040227 = 7.835 BTC [-]
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05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63234 @ 0.00042192 = 26.6797 BTC [+] {2}
05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63234 @ 0.00042192 = 26.6797 BTC [+] {2}
05:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]
05:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]
05:58 Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 23(Y):77(N) by weight. Total bet: 39.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,811.
06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37534 @ 0.00042072 = 15.7913 BTC [-] {2}
06:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59561 @ 0.00042786 = 25.4838 BTC [+] {3}
06:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22027 @ 0.00044004 = 9.6928 BTC [+]
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07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [+]
07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [-]
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2049 @ 0.00058467 = 1.198 BTC [+] {8}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3490 @ 0.00058356 = 2.0366 BTC [+] {9}
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07:51 mats http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/obama-wants-congress-to-increase-prison-sentences-for-hackers/
07:51 assbot Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymScZX )
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08:13 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: yea it'll be on the editor's desk today sometime. no use fighting sleep debt, which has been paid in full.
08:18 BingoBoingo !up AaronvanW
08:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}
08:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}
08:25 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2sagqu/since_bitcoin_has_lost_a_lot_of_value_since_the/cnnr6m9 << asciilifeform Buterin admits to waterfall
08:25 assbot vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/1yfICLG )
08:25 BingoBoingo !up viorels
08:33 davout BingoBoingo: hah
08:38 mats http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf The Mathematics Community and the NSA
08:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/14DHJyp )
08:43 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: kid has a lot to learn eh?
08:49 BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel
08:49 gabriel_laddel ty
08:49 BingoBoingo !up sinetek
08:49 BingoBoingo !up AaronvanW
08:54 gabriel_laddel from The Mathematics Community and the NSA "Mathematician are leading the way to design and implement the algorithms that create this rising tide. Here we share many common interests with industry: e.g., big data analytics, cloud computing, machine learning and advanced search. So-called metadata (intelligence information that can be ascertained without examining the actual content of a communication) plays a big ro
08:54 gabriel_laddel le here, as our governing rules generally do not permit deep inspection when the apertuse into our data set widens. Getting this right is paramount: the average NSA mathematician takes fourteen courses each yer to be up-to-date on the procedures that govern these activities."
08:55 gabriel_laddel Because that is how you go about attracting the best mathematicians, big data and boring classes to keep up to date on the law.
08:55 davout lol
08:56 gabriel_laddel note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14.
08:56 gabriel_laddel I've got to wonder if they draw straws and a few poor bastards get stuck taking all the classes.
08:57 Apocalyptic mats, thanks for the link
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041109 = 11.3461 BTC [+] {2}
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041109 = 11.3461 BTC [+] {2}
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]
09:03 gabriel_laddel http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/KeystoneKops.jpg
09:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCfHPk )
09:14 punkman http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/13/iceland-brewery-whale-testicle-beer/21714213/
09:25 BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel
09:26 gabriel_laddel I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd?
09:29 BingoBoingo Seems to be the case
09:30 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: It seems to be the case that we're waiting?
09:30 BingoBoingo I didn't say that.
09:30 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: Well I'm not sure how else to read that.
09:31 BingoBoingo Well, there's the other clause in your question.
09:32 davout wasn't kakobrekla working on sthg?
09:32 gabriel_laddel well yes, but you're response doesn't clarify.
09:32 gabriel_laddel *your
09:33 davout i would clarify if i had clarity :)
09:33 BingoBoingo !b 2
09:33 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0VWDJWZ.txt )
09:34 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: Because I lack clarity too. But a something seems to be happening.
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10:03 kakobrekla yeah its almost complete.
10:06 jurov eta 2 weeks
10:10 BingoBoingo http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/some-gripes-about-nacl
10:10 assbot some gripes about nacl ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCvRbi )
10:10 davout jurov: you forgot the (tm)
10:11 davout kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D
10:13 kakobrekla asswot
10:15 BingoBoingo !b 2
10:15 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/362X0B9.txt )
10:15 BingoBoingo !s bitcoin
10:15 assbot 23025 results for 'bitcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoin
10:15 BingoBoingo !s ass
10:15 assbot 1135 results for 'ass' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass
10:16 BingoBoingo Huh, I thought that might be flipped
10:16 TomServo Can you share any details?
10:16 BingoBoingo !s ass*
10:16 assbot 280758 results for 'ass*' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass%2A
10:16 BingoBoingo Ah, much better
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10:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}
10:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}
10:38 mircea_popescu http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179517/amia-prosecutor-accuses-cfk-timerman-of-covering-up-iran << argentina heating up.
10:38 assbot AMIA prosecutor accuses CFK, Timerman of 'covering up' Iran's involvement in bombing - BuenosAiresHerald.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCD8bk )
10:50 thestringpuller you get my reply mircea_popescu :P
10:50 mircea_popescu mno
10:50 thestringpuller via da logz
10:50 mircea_popescu didnt look yet
10:51 thestringpuller ah.
10:54 mircea_popescu mats >> it's on qntra even.
10:55 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14. << i expect it's just a shortcut to pay them better.
10:55 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd? << kakobrekla has been, for a while now
10:57 mircea_popescu davout: kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D << wot capabilit yintegration into assbot!
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}
10:58 davout mircea_popescu: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/54/5467b21bf2e9a7c44519e2728bb5aa86798e3b769ffa1545b6a1173897757ef9.jpg
10:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCHUFI )
11:00 mircea_popescu thestringpuller ic!
11:00 mircea_popescu news waits for no man, mr.
11:02 mircea_popescu lol
11:02 mircea_popescu @ ethereum reddit.
11:03 mats http://www.wired.com/2014/12/finney-swat
11:03 assbot An Extortionist Has Been Making Life Hell for Bitcoin's Earliest Adopters | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCIS4M )
11:03 mircea_popescu lolwut ?! finney was dead wasn't he ?!
11:04 davout mircea_popescu: that was before he died
11:04 mircea_popescu wow. i thought i had read eulogies and everything
11:04 mircea_popescu oh
11:04 mircea_popescu ty for that made my head spin for a minute
11:05 mircea_popescu "Roger Ver, another early bitcoin adopter, believes he was victimized by the same person the week before the Finney family was swatted. That’s when someone using the names Nitrous and Savaged hacked into Ver’s email accounts and demanded that he cough up 37 bitcoins"
11:05 mircea_popescu lmao roger ver is such an exercise in tramp
11:06 davout mircea_popescu: x.eur pl0x
11:06 mircea_popescu aye.
11:08 Bet created: "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/
11:10 mats http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/uk-swiss-snb-cap-idUKKBN0KO0XV20150115
11:10 assbot Swiss central bank shocks markets with currency 'tsunami'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCKYla )
11:10 Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/ Odds: 0(Y):100(N) by coin, 0(Y):100(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,998.
11:12 mats i wonder how they plan to manage domestic deflation
11:12 mircea_popescu by not caring.
11:13 mircea_popescu if you mean the swiss
11:13 davout mats: in what way would it be a problem? exports?
11:14 mats for the swiss, inflation is 0%, some interbank rates are negative, oil is falling, and this move will probably drop imports 10%+
11:15 mircea_popescu they're too well integrated with euro to actually care.
11:19 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/555693914112663552
11:19 assbot I know, I know, /hashtag/firstworldproblems?src=hash, but flying coach just blows. Thanks /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash. (Then again, Miami awaits!)
11:20 mats lol
11:20 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/01/transaction-fees-and-the-future-of-bitcoin/
11:20 assbot Transaction Fees and the Future of Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCNPuq )
11:22 BingoBoingo hanbot chetty Your qntra comments are up http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/#comment-7332
11:22 assbot Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCO9JL )
11:25 TomServo Does scoopbot need to be replaced? It seems to often be MIA.
11:36 mircea_popescu davout shoulkd be there.
11:36 davout tyvm
11:36 mircea_popescu TomServo well ideally it'd have to be fixed,
11:37 mircea_popescu but if that doesn't woirk i guess it'll have to be replaced.
11:37 mircea_popescu ivreally wish people were a LOT more open with the problems they have. if there's one time to be all over this place, it's then.
11:37 mircea_popescu the alternative of "it dun work and i'm mia" pretty much the worst possible approach.
11:38 TomServo Oh - I thought it was working (aside from contravex), but just having trouble staying online.
11:38 mircea_popescu i dunno anymore than you do on the topic.
11:38 mircea_popescu just what i see in logs.
11:38 TomServo If it just needs a more stable home I can probably help.
11:38 mircea_popescu yeah but we dunno what it needs or what's going on, and so can't help.
11:39 TomServo I forgot who ran it, but reach out if I can lend a hand!
11:39 mircea_popescu i will next i see 'em.
11:41 BingoBoingo http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/15/danes_mull_session_logging_law_despite_eu_data_retention_ban/
11:41 assbot Denmark mulls new EU-defying session-logging law • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCTIb2 )
11:42 davout TomServo: peterl runs it iirc
11:42 BingoBoingo Now the Danish Parliament looks set to reintroduce the obligation, despite an evaluation of its effectiveness showing only one case out of around 24 trillion registrations where it had actually helped police
11:42 BingoBoingo ^ lulzy shit
11:42 mircea_popescu lol
11:44 mircea_popescu this pretense that shit like "denmark" even have the power to legislate.
11:44 mircea_popescu gtfo, you're a municipal council. stick to peeling chewinggum off the sidewalk and debating what uniform to put the parking meter chicks in.
11:45 BingoBoingo Silicon Valley http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/four-on-five-nba-basketball.html
11:45 assbot The NBA’s Golden Age of Innovation Is Coming -- NYMag ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICxmui )
11:45 mircea_popescu bwahaha
11:46 mircea_popescu you know, the ironic bit here is that... ceausescu called his epic fail "epoca de aur". teh golden age of ballooning.
11:46 mircea_popescu SNB Chairman Thomas Jordan denied at a news conference that the move amounted to a "panic reaction", saying the cap had been scrapped because it was unsustainable. "If you decide to exit such a policy, you have to take the markets by surprise," Jordan said. << quite.
11:46 mircea_popescu one can't maintain arbitrary caps like that.
11:46 TomServo davout: Thanks, I'll drop a line.
11:47 mircea_popescu one shouldn't even try, but hey.
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 151 @ 0.00689999 = 1.0419 BTC [+] {2}
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 172 @ 0.00689999 = 1.1868 BTC [+] {3}
11:48 mircea_popescu ""I've never seen such a drop in one go, it's huge. People will probably be buying euros, but also dollars and other currencies," said one UBS teller, after selling euros to a Russian client."
11:48 mircea_popescu orly ? people are goinmg to BUY dollars because they're worthless ?
11:48 mircea_popescu and are going to SELL stuff like RUB ? what "people" are these people ?
11:49 mircea_popescu "Fitch's managing director of sovereign ratings Ed Parker said the move would not affect Switzerland's top-grade rating." ahahahaha jesus fucking christ.
11:49 mircea_popescu tell me if it's going to affect the us's top rating, derps.
11:52 BingoBoingo Three https://i.imgur.com/qvcVB6p.jpg
11:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICzCBH )
11:57 BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski
11:57 BingoBoingo !up AaronvanW
11:58 davout BingoBoingo: the third's face is creepy
11:58 pete_dushenski guten morgen!
11:58 davout ohai
11:58 BingoBoingo davout: Deer probably find your "I'm fucking" face creepy too
12:00 davout i never really had the occasion to make a butseks-a-guy-who-sekses-up-some-chick face so i guess that's an unknown for now
12:01 BingoBoingo Well...
12:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51704 @ 0.00044013 = 22.7565 BTC [+] {2}
12:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51704 @ 0.00044013 = 22.7565 BTC [+] {2}
12:21 BingoBoingo !up bigtip
12:21 BingoBoingo !up viorels
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.11772061 = 5.2974 BTC [+] {10}
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.11772061 = 5.2974 BTC [+] {10}
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2419 @ 0.00065799 = 1.5917 BTC [-]
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2419 @ 0.00065799 = 1.5917 BTC [-]
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4887 @ 0.00065799 = 3.2156 BTC [-] {2}
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4887 @ 0.00065799 = 3.2156 BTC [-] {2}
12:32 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/un-mic-exercitiu/ << so if anyone feels like delving into romanian, this is me doing journalism school in 2010. comments moar valuable htan article as per usual.
12:32 assbot Un mic exercitiu. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xtmeas )
12:37 davout mircea_popescu: at first i was like 'Be that as it may'
12:38 davout but then 'Be that as it may, consider ca am cam obtinut ce am dorit prin comentariile(adevarat, exasperant de incalcite) prin care autorul completeaza sau clarifica unele sectiuni mai gri.'
12:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4542 @ 0.00065799 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}
12:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4542 @ 0.00065799 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}
12:42 mats i have recently discovered grocery delivery
12:44 mats it is amazeeng
12:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00043472 = 26.4744 BTC [-]
12:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00043472 = 26.4744 BTC [-]
12:56 * mats preps a pound of walnuts for roasting with honey and cinnamon
13:05 mircea_popescu davout it's right.
13:05 mats ;;ticker --market all
13:06 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.23, vol: 91288.38996660 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.0, vol: 54412.72426 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 209279.78459044 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 219.71, vol: 41.24919397 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 211.4035, vol: 354868.10020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 210.22177, vol: 158.71142587 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 222.738329988, vol: 180.853045 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
13:14 ben_vulpes buenas terroristas
13:15 mircea_popescu "An individual who owned twenty feet in the Ophir mine before its great riches were revealed to men, traded it for a horse, and a very sorry looking brute he was, too. A year or so afterward, when Ophir stock went up to $3,000 a foot, this man, who had not a cent, used to say he was the most startling example of magnificence and misery the world had ever seen—because he was able to ride a sixty-thousand-dollar horse
13:15 mircea_popescu —yet could not scrape up cash enough to buy a saddle, and was obliged to borrow one or ride bareback. He said if fortune were to give him another sixty-thousand-dollar horse it would ruin him."
13:15 mircea_popescu check it out! kako's golf used to be a horse.
13:15 ben_vulpes riding bareback's not *so* bad...
13:15 * ben_vulpes never did it for more than a few hours tho
13:15 ben_vulpes and i did have a blanket thinger
13:16 mircea_popescu it's not feasible long term.
13:16 mircea_popescu run both you and the horse bloody.
13:16 ben_vulpes not good capital equipment maintenance.
13:16 ben_vulpes man i want some horses!
13:16 ben_vulpes that's capital equipment that makes more capital equipment.
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}
13:17 mircea_popescu talk to davout iirc he was looking to start a farm.
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}
13:17 ben_vulpes davout: doing it in france
13:18 ben_vulpes in other news, i have to put up a notice to my employees that my company bears unemployment insurance. this is all standard practice, but it irks me that the responsibility for educating people about their rights falls to me.
13:18 ben_vulpes it's this sneaky tax, basically.
13:18 ben_vulpes "we're going to pass a law, and then make the people who actually get shit done teach the proles about it."
13:18 mircea_popescu i have no idea what you imagine the point of a company is if not educate its workers.
13:18 ben_vulpes er, worker's compensation. not unemployment.
13:19 ben_vulpes we educate plenty!
13:19 ben_vulpes but being told to educate on a thing of such triviality and irrelevance to the business is loathsome.
13:19 ben_vulpes i must hang a poster.
13:19 mthreat i think i've seen those in the bathroom
13:19 ben_vulpes a vile red and blue poster.
13:20 mircea_popescu so you're really after the political statement that it is a business owner's own right and privilege to educate whatever he sees fit, and the intermeddling of some "state" is at best unwelcome ?
13:20 mircea_popescu sure.
13:20 mircea_popescu how goes mthreat ?
13:20 mthreat not bad
13:20 ben_vulpes i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster.
13:20 mircea_popescu saw teh flood ?
13:21 mthreat not sure, in BsAs?
13:21 mircea_popescu yeah, libertador was under a foot of water coupla days ago
13:21 mircea_popescu suddenly the car was afloat lol.
13:21 mthreat oh.. no I hadn't
13:21 BingoBoingo <ben_vulpes> i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster. << sign under it that says "Do not deface poster" should both result in defaced posted while still counting as a reasonable precaution
13:21 mthreat ya.. i've seen minor versions of that. drainage FTW
13:21 mircea_popescu it can really pour here.
13:22 mthreat flash floods are fairly common in central texas too
13:22 mthreat people always trying to drive through it and drowning
13:24 mircea_popescu lol. "o, there's a problem ? let's ignore it maybe it goes away".
13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69600 @ 0.00043275 = 30.1194 BTC [-] {2}
13:24 mircea_popescu college was not for naught!
13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69600 @ 0.00043275 = 30.1194 BTC [-] {2}
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13:51 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.05 BTC. Current weight: 14,021.
13:51 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to top 360$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1102/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.1 BTC. Current weight: 85,870.
13:57 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> [] mebbe it has a crash on oyu. << ouch.
14:03 ben_vulpes !up pete_dushenski
14:03 ben_vulpes what's up with your keytuation?
14:03 pete_dushenski ty ben!
14:03 pete_dushenski uh nothing much
14:03 pete_dushenski just waiting for assbot
14:04 pete_dushenski that'll show those holiday-takers!
14:05 pete_dushenski http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/01/15/target-to-exit-canada/ << and gooood riddance!
14:05 assbot Target To Exit Canada « CBS Minnesota ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2Lm2p )
14:06 pete_dushenski there's no room in this town for a retailer that hangs its hat on faux francais pronunciation of its name
14:07 pete_dushenski you don't see simon's pulling the nasal "n" card
14:13 pete_dushenski anyone read bruce bueno de mesquita ?
14:13 pete_dushenski he was recommended by a commenter on contravex and his writings looks to be pretty on point
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.1198888 = 1.079 BTC [-] {2}
14:14 pete_dushenski *look
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 333 @ 0.12927546 = 43.0487 BTC [+] {13}
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 324 @ 0.1295362 = 41.9697 BTC [+] {11}
14:15 pete_dushenski Some $12 trillion in new money has been created since the global financial crisis by the major central banks in a broad attempt to bolster hobbled banking systems, ease debt service and revive a damaged global economy. << deflation, surely, is right around the corner
14:16 mircea_popescu terrorist redpiller pedophile racist
14:18 pete_dushenski sounds aboot right
14:18 mircea_popescu are you threatening me ?!?!
14:19 * pete_dushenski goes to order some future contraband
14:19 pete_dushenski me? never!
14:20 mircea_popescu i need progress for my bunghole
14:21 pete_dushenski ya, it's smearing everywhere
14:21 pete_dushenski quite the mess you've made
14:22 mircea_popescu lol
14:23 asciilifeform http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf << required reading for all shitgnomologists. 'we're not sorry, but we're sorry we got caught.'
14:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/14DHJyp )
14:24 pete_dushenski A man who portrayed himself as a member of a wealthy Pakistani family and was often seen driving luxury cars including a Ferrari faces sentencing in a multimillion-dollar investment scam involving three former Miami Heat players and the team itself. << as if the donald sterling shmozzle wasn't embarrassing enough for the nba
14:24 pete_dushenski it's the the major pro sports in the us are trying to out-retard each other
14:24 pete_dushenski "no our players and fans our stupider!"
14:25 mircea_popescu lmao
14:25 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo writing up this one ?
14:25 asciilifeform https://threatpost.com/new-strain-of-crowti-ransomware-moving-in-i2p-network/110416 << even crapware artists moving off tor
14:25 assbot Crowti Cryptowall 3.0 Ransomware Moving in I2P Network | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6yEpQ )
14:26 mircea_popescu lol
14:26 pete_dushenski Zafar convinced Miller to give him $2.6 million, Lewis to give him $4 million and Jones to give him $1.5 million, all for an investment opportunity that Zafar said would "quickly obtain a significant return." But rather than reimburse the Miami Heat or three individuals, Zafar used the money "for his personal use and benefit,"
14:27 pete_dushenski Zafar's attorney has said his client pleaded guilty to accept responsibility and move forward with his life. << he'd better. it also ties into this week's pleabargain convo
14:27 pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sentencing-scheduled-multimillion-dollar-miami-heat-fraud-061059671--finance.html
14:27 assbot Sentencing scheduled in multimillion-dollar Miami Heat fraud - Yahoo Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6z6EJ )
14:27 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:37 ben_vulpes !up pete_dushenski
14:38 pete_dushenski merci!
14:38 ben_vulpes de rien
14:43 pete_dushenski through the first 11 months of 2014, Prius sales were down nearly 16% compared with the prior year.
14:43 pete_dushenski but global warming!
14:43 pete_dushenski "What happened? The short answer is: cheap gas prices."
14:44 pete_dushenski "with $2 gas being commonplace, the Prius is only viewed as a smart financial choice by drivers “who stink at math.”"
14:44 pete_dushenski " among other reasons, its fuel efficiency advantage over the competition has shrunk substantially, and Tesla has emerged as the green car of choice that’s not only environmentally friendly, but stylish and a rip-roaring hoot to drive as well."
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]
14:44 pete_dushenski "The cachet of the Prius has dissipated in the years since because,"
14:45 pete_dushenski damn that shit's too funny
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]
14:45 pete_dushenski funny how clarkson called the prius out for being a poser's turd back in 07 or whatever
14:47 pete_dushenski and pointed out that the battery required rare earths from all over creation and was therefore, cradle to cradle, less enviromentally conscientious
14:47 pete_dushenski and now, go figure that clarkson is all wooed by the i8
14:50 thestringpuller oh lookie lookie a pete_dushenski
14:50 pete_dushenski heya
14:50 thestringpuller having fun at degrassi jr. high?
14:50 thestringpuller jkjk
14:50 thestringpuller !up bigtip
14:51 danielpbarron http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30828694
14:51 assbot BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug
14:51 pete_dushenski thestringpuller me and drizzy ;)
14:53 thestringpuller oh yea canadians do have drake
14:53 thestringpuller i say he makes up for justin bieber
14:54 thestringpuller so this chick was down here in the studio my friend interned at
14:54 thestringpuller some 15 year old chick polow da don was trying to pimp (of throw's some d's on it fame)
14:54 thestringpuller anyhow she was at one of Drake's parties and Bieber was there
14:54 thestringpuller and Drake really doesn't like Bieber, but somehow kid shows up anywas
14:55 thestringpuller So Drake starts rolling a blunt and won't pass it to Bieber
14:55 thestringpuller and Bieber has a straight up temper trantrum
14:55 pete_dushenski lol
14:55 pete_dushenski men only
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}
14:56 pete_dushenski ^amhash1 getting pretty close to 50% of ipo value.
14:56 pete_dushenski has it been 6 months already?
14:57 thestringpuller should be a metric of how quick Mining bonds depreciate in value
14:57 thestringpuller or maybe there just shouldn't be mining bonds at all ~_~
14:57 pete_dushenski so it looks like sony doesn't want to be the hardware company that goes down in horrible flames racing to the bottom
14:57 pete_dushenski they're releasing a $1200 walkman!
14:58 pete_dushenski 150mb songs
14:58 pete_dushenski for supah megah qualité
14:58 pete_dushenski thestringpuller there is a metric, see trilema
14:58 pete_dushenski 50% in 6 months
14:58 pete_dushenski :)
14:58 thestringpuller XD
14:58 thestringpuller which trilema
14:58 thestringpuller as trilema is a library with no dewey decimal
14:59 pete_dushenski mighta been pmb's
14:59 pete_dushenski (perpetual mining bonds)
15:00 thestringpuller that 1200 dollar walkman just looks like a glorified flac player
15:00 thestringpuller wut 4. audiophiles rip vinyl to walkman?
15:01 pete_dushenski mebbe
15:02 pete_dushenski i mostly just like that it's at least trying to be premium
15:02 pete_dushenski and not just in an lv gucci prada way
15:03 pete_dushenski and why not rip vinyl to walkman?
15:03 pete_dushenski not like you have a vinyl player in your camry
15:03 pete_dushenski or at the coffee shop
15:03 pete_dushenski or out on a walk
15:09 thestringpuller lol
15:12 kakobrekla in case you missed it
15:12 kakobrekla https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png
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15:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5igLB )
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15:51 cazalla https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/555821164661321728 pretty lulzy if true
15:52 assbot Defense's alternative theory seems to be that MARK KARPELES OF MT GOX and one other were the real DPR. /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash
15:52 fluffypony lol
15:52 fluffypony Karpeles getting blamed for errthing
15:53 bitstein https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/555827037488037889
15:53 assbot To be clear, everyone, defense has NOT made the argument Mark Karpeles was DPR, instead got a DHS agent to admit he was a suspect
15:55 TomServo wat, nowai
15:57 ben_vulpes <mats> [] i have recently discovered grocery delivery << i like it too, except i just have lady v do it
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3075 @ 0.00063401 = 1.9496 BTC [-]
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3075 @ 0.00063401 = 1.9496 BTC [-]
15:59 thestringpuller stop being a sexist ben_vulpes
16:01 ben_vulpes baby girl's on payroll
16:01 ben_vulpes chef, grocery shopper, dog walker
16:02 mats you're cool
16:02 ben_vulpes i ain't sexist
16:02 ben_vulpes i'm an employah
16:02 kakobrekla me too
16:02 kakobrekla even got her a no-show job.
16:03 thestringpuller what is a no show job?
16:03 mats being on payroll without working
16:03 thestringpuller so communism?
16:03 ben_vulpes well it's my personal payroll as opposed to the company payroll, assholes
16:04 thestringpuller so ben_vulpes lets his wife indulge in socialism?
16:04 ben_vulpes but as soon as i figure out the non profit hustle in the states i'm going to get myself a lobbying job
16:04 mats wat
16:05 ben_vulpes thestringpuller: more like, i indulge in capitalism
16:05 mats how much does a gigolo cost these days?
16:05 ben_vulpes this involves buying what i want.
16:06 asciilifeform lol, we all keep pets ?
16:07 ben_vulpes husbandry, right up there in the list of ancient professions.
16:10 ben_vulpes https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2sagqu/since_bitcoin_has_lost_a_lot_of_value_since_the/cnpxp80 << dafuq is CHF
16:10 assbot vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/17Ms6ad )
16:12 kakobrekla ben_vulpes swiss franc
16:12 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2015#978561
16:12 assbot Logged on 15-01-2015 20:12:53; kakobrekla: https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png
16:13 davout good evening!
16:14 kakobrekla ^^ re chf, a few folks committed suicide today cause of it.
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16:14 kakobrekla and a few banks will close in the following months.
16:14 kakobrekla they will try to hide it first.
16:14 kakobrekla also some fx brokerages closed.
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16:15 kakobrekla like a nuke fell.
16:15 mircea_popescu <assbot> BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug << aww that';s so cute
16:15 davout kakobrekla: dat swan. such black.
16:16 kakobrekla hehe
16:16 mircea_popescu but is it driving adoption ?
16:17 davout there was antonopoulos' ama on the driving adoption side
16:17 davout :D
16:17 kakobrekla well, there will be more orphans so i perhaps more adoptions
16:17 mircea_popescu "our plan to drive adoption is twofold : first, make a lot of people off themselves. their thus orphaned offspring, will, necessarily, be adopted. we will endeavour to drive as many as possible, but some might have to walk."
16:17 davout first question: "waddaya think about block size"
16:17 kakobrekla -i
16:17 mircea_popescu davout this because clearly the fork won't fail, but contrairiwise
16:18 davout he said things should be fixed when they actually become a problem
16:18 mircea_popescu not bad for a dead man.
16:18 davout aka "next question please"
16:19 mircea_popescu so what, o'reilly smelled the gunpowder and is splitting from the scam foundation ? or are they actually yielding in corpore but still trying to protect gavin's head from my platter ?
16:21 mircea_popescu cazalla: pretty lulzy if true << not as much a matter of true as a matter of holy shit, that trial will be a coin toss. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#976369 still curtious on that point.
16:21 assbot Logged on 14-01-2015 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.
16:21 davout meanwhile, bitcoin foundation's executive director on twitter... https://twitter.com/virtuallylaw/status/555829864075243521
16:21 assbot /petertoddbtc got it. I'd take it with many grains of salt. That would be nuts...
16:21 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker <<< burlesque dancer, escort ?
16:27 ben_vulpes does escort me around myeah :D
16:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00042713 = 8.4747 BTC [-] {2}
16:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00042713 = 8.4747 BTC [-] {2}
16:43 ben_vulpes http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/01/the-failure-of-a-past-basic-income-guarantee-the-speenhamland-system.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29 << i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not
16:43 assbot The Failure of a Past Basic Income Guarantee, the Speenhamland System | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE1wNB )
16:46 ben_vulpes http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/ << derpy but sorta interesting points in the third to last pp
16:46 assbot Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2b1u )
16:46 davout http://fr.anco.is/2015/01/15/x-eur-january-15th-2015-statement/
16:46 assbot X.EUR January 15th 2015 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2dql )
16:47 davout so far the best investment in january: +64%
16:47 asciilifeform ^ again repeats the 'no inherent value' crock of shit
16:48 kakobrekla cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy.
16:49 kakobrekla no article about that eh.
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]
16:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]
16:58 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/nsa-employee-will-continue-to-co-chair-influential-crypto-standards-group << mega-lol
16:58 assbot NSA employee will continue to co-chair influential crypto standards group | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE5DcG )
17:07 kakobrekla o looks like ukto/ukyo is in jail
17:07 kakobrekla twist: not for bitcoin fraud.
17:09 kakobrekla some wtf here: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da
17:09 assbot Bitcoin Trader Accused of Murder Says He Was Tied Up, Forced to Sell Stocks - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE8rGJ )
17:14 jurov ^ that's about ukyo?
17:15 kakobrekla afaik not
17:15 thestringpuller where is the utko news then?
17:15 thestringpuller ~_~
17:15 joecool ;;gpg info ukyo
17:15 gribble No such user registered.
17:15 thestringpuller ;;gpg info utko
17:15 gribble No such user registered.
17:15 thestringpuller ;;gpg info ukto
17:15 gribble User 'ukto', with keyid 61D2F81E4BFEEF11, fingerprint 004467FBE2285A57978AA34A61D2F81E4BFEEF11, and bitcoin address None, registered on Tue Jun 14 22:19:01 2011, last authed on Sun Sep 4 11:57:45 2011. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=ukto . Currently not authenticated.
17:23 kakobrekla re ukto news is from tardstalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg9845674#msg9845674
17:23 assbot [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEbYEK )
17:24 kakobrekla a month old.
17:35 kakobrekla anyway bbl.
17:50 jurov "After taking the rate into negative territory last month for the first time since the 1970s, it cut another 0.5 percentage points on Thursday to -0.75 percent"
17:50 jurov "it cut"
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18:27 ben_vulpes first
18:27 thestringpuller :P
18:27 thestringpuller second
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49853 @ 0.0004248 = 21.1776 BTC [+]
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49853 @ 0.0004248 = 21.1776 BTC [+]
18:43 mircea_popescu https://i.imgur.com/OEC7s6Y.jpg << check out "the man responsible" lolz
18:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5FnFs )
18:46 mircea_popescu lol gotta love the forum derps. "o hai we're here in the swamp isolated from the goings on in bitcoin. how come we have nfi what's going on ???"
18:46 mircea_popescu uh i dunno...
18:52 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not << depends on the definition of guaranteed job. guaranteed payments are always inflationary - that's the very definition of inflation : payment without a counterprestation. jobs however can be guaranteed in such a way that prestation is at the same time guaranteed, at least theoretically.
18:52 mircea_popescu consider my alt economy where the currency is teeth. every person can be guaranteed a job as selftooth extractor, paying 30 teeth over their lifetime.
18:52 mircea_popescu now, irl the cow's not spherical nor does it live in a vacuum, but hey.
18:54 mircea_popescu washington post article is especially niggardly, which is what one'd expect from the vanguard of us socialism. "o noes, if you look at just this portion of the graph, bitcoin has been falling".
18:54 mircea_popescu guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.
18:56 mircea_popescu http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GHC+Interactive#symbol=GHC;range=1y look at that, from 900 to 500!
18:56 assbot GHC Interactive Stock Chart | Yahoo! Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3cj0q )
18:56 mircea_popescu Matt O'Brien is a reporter for Wonkblog covering economic affairs. He was previously a senior associate editor at The Atlantic. He is also an idiot soon to be permanently unemployed.
18:58 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy. << well... that's a point there, canada totally is a ponzi scheme.
18:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't get it, in what sense is CFRG/ietf influential ?
18:59 mircea_popescu gavin isn't quitting the scam foundation either, and obviously the msm would present it as "influential". what's it influence, reddit ?
19:00 * cazalla waves fists at scoopbot
19:00 cazalla http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/
19:00 assbot It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3d8Xc )
19:02 mircea_popescu easy, but unproductive.
19:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg << 'influential' in the sense of perfect position for slow and subtle shitgnomification of various protocols
19:02 assbot Active IETF Working Groups ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dxZs )
19:03 asciilifeform http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cfrg/current/msg03554.html << for n00bs
19:03 assbot [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dJbg )
19:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't know anyone is actually using their protocols for serious work anymore than anyone'd be using the foundation crapolade for any serious work.
19:05 assbot xiando +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
19:06 thestringpuller Dr. Popescu
19:07 mircea_popescu It was a driving, vigorous, restless population in those days. It was a curious population. It was the only population of the kind that the world has ever seen gathered together, and it is not likely that the world will ever see its like again. For observe, it was an assemblage of two hundred thousand young men—not simpering, dainty, kid-gloved weaklings, but stalwart, muscular, dauntless young braves, brimful of pus
19:07 mircea_popescu h and energy, and royally endowed with every attribute that goes to make up a peerless and magnificent manhood—the very pick and choice of the world's glorious ones. No women, no children, no gray and stooping veterans,—none but erect, bright-eyed, quick-moving, strong-handed young giants—the strangest population, the finest population, the most gallant host that ever trooped down the startled solitudes of an unp
19:07 mircea_popescu eopled land. And where are they now? Scattered to the ends of the earth—or prematurely aged and decrepit—or shot or stabbed in street affrays—or dead of disappointed hopes and broken hearts—all gone, or nearly all—victims devoted upon the altar of the golden calf—the noblest holocaust that ever wafted its sacrificial incense heavenward. It is pitiful to think upon.
19:07 Apocalyptic cazalla, "That that article"
19:07 mircea_popescu It was a splendid population—for all the slow, sleepy, sluggish-brained sloths staid at home—you never find that sort of people among pioneers—you cannot build pioneers out of that sort of material. It was that population that gave to California a name for getting up astounding enterprises and rushing them through with a magnificent dash and daring and a recklessness of cost or consequences, which she bears unto
19:07 mircea_popescu this day—and when she projects a new surprise, the grave world smiles as usual, and says "Well, that is California all over."
19:07 mircea_popescu check it out! i found what vc's are trying to live off today! a ~150 year old corpse!
19:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 396 @ 0.00676765 = 2.68 BTC [+] {6}
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 400 @ 0.00676947 = 2.7078 BTC [+] {6}
19:08 cazalla Apocalyptic, reads OK to me
19:08 mircea_popescu PeterL ppl's be bitching bout scoopbot all day. wha happened ?
19:09 PeterL dunno, seems it lost its connection to irc
19:09 PeterL TomServo here?
19:11 Apocalyptic myeah, altought it's not the most fortunate sentence construction
19:11 ben_vulpes http://internet.gawker.com/silk-road-trial-defense-says-mt-gox-ceo-is-the-real-d-1679786377/+maxread << (internet.gawker.com???)
19:11 assbot Silk Road Trial: Defense Says Mt. Gox CEO Is the Real Drug Lord  ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5JTnh )
19:12 mircea_popescu they revolutionized the www
19:12 mircea_popescu such lulz
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 174 @ 0.00699999 = 1.218 BTC [+] {6}
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 185 @ 0.00699999 = 1.295 BTC [+] {6}
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 178 @ 0.00699999 = 1.246 BTC [+] {6}
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 166 @ 0.00699999 = 1.162 BTC [+] {5}
19:21 Apocalyptic "Der-Yeghiayan testified that his own investigation had found that Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered silkroadmarket.org as a means to publicize the site further."
19:22 mircea_popescu Something very important happened. The property holders of Nevada voted against the State Constitution; but the folks who had nothing to lose were in the majority, and carried the measure over their heads. But after all it did not immediately look like a disaster, though unquestionably it was one I hesitated, calculated the chances, and then concluded not to sell. Stocks went on rising; speculation went mad; bankers, m
19:22 mircea_popescu erchants, lawyers, doctors, mechanics, laborers, even the very washerwomen and servant girls, were putting up their earnings on silver stocks, and every sun that rose in the morning went down on paupers enriched and rich men beggared. What a gambling carnival it was! Gould and Curry soared to six thousand three hundred dollars a foot! And then—all of a sudden, out went the bottom and everything and everybody went to
19:22 mircea_popescu ruin and destruction! The wreck was complete.
19:23 mircea_popescu The bubble scarcely left a microscopic moisture behind it. I was an early beggar and a thorough one. My hoarded stocks were not worth the paper they were printed on. I threw them all away. I, the cheerful idiot that had been squandering money like water, and thought myself beyond the reach of misfortune, had not now as much as fifty dollars when I gathered together my various debts and paid them. I removed from the hot
19:23 mircea_popescu el to a very private boarding house. I took a reporter's berth and went to work. I was not entirely broken in spirit, for I was building confidently on the sale of the silver mine in the east. But I could not hear from Dan. My letters miscarried or were not answered.
19:23 mircea_popescu what a fortunate thing it is that in bitcoin, unlike in the united states, men with no means have no vote.
19:26 thestringpuller stop disenfranching the poor mircea_popescu
19:26 mircea_popescu im not disenfranchising them. i merely don't value their arbitrary enfranchisement more than i value a paper fixing new orbits for the solar system.
19:28 thestringpuller but don't you want more adoption?!?
19:28 PeterL when they adopt bitcoin they gets some say
19:32 TomServo PeterL: Allo
19:32 PeterL allo
19:33 PeterL you say you might be able to help with hosting scoopbot?
19:33 TomServo Sure
19:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00042932 = 11.7204 BTC [+] {3}
19:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00042932 = 11.7204 BTC [+] {3}
19:50 thestringpuller !b 4
19:50 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3AZFKA2.txt )
20:02 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/johndalton/status/555825090168762368
20:02 assbot "Some people think I'm nice & are shocked when they find out different. I'm not a nice person, & I don't care about you." --Linus /hashtag/lca2015?src=hash
20:03 mircea_popescu guy gets it.
20:15 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/what-does-desperation-look-like/
20:15 mircea_popescu o wb scoopbot
20:15 mircea_popescu PeterL wha was the issue with it ?
20:16 PeterL I'm still trying to figure out
20:16 PeterL yesterday my host went down, not sure why bot stopped today
20:16 PeterL I'm going to try hacking in an autorestart again
20:17 mircea_popescu if you can use cpanel i can set you up momentarily.
20:17 PeterL oh?
20:17 mircea_popescu sure ?
20:17 mircea_popescu all you gotta do is ask and generally, explain what the problems are you know.
20:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31187 @ 0.00042338 = 13.204 BTC [-]
20:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31187 @ 0.00042338 = 13.204 BTC [-]
20:19 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: seems to work better as time goes on and more resources are available :P
20:19 thestringpuller except sleep
20:19 thestringpuller can't seem to get enough of that
20:19 mircea_popescu :)
20:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00042064 = 2.2084 BTC [-]
20:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00042064 = 2.2084 BTC [-]
20:29 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: i'm addicted to docker
20:29 thestringpuller trying to learn how to run supervisord
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20:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00042143 = 9.0607 BTC [+] {2}
20:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00042143 = 9.0607 BTC [+] {2}
20:58 asciilifeform 'fun' discovery of the day. freebsd 'tmpfs' created under kernel built with gcc will not be mounted by kernel built with llvm.
20:59 asciilifeform this is (almost certainly, i did not check but it seems like a no-brainer) on account of those parts of c which are not in fact standardized in any meaningful way (e.g., 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout)
21:00 asciilifeform ergo llvm is a piece of shit, though it works and is internally consistent (presumably) - by the same logic, i would argue, as 'gavincoin' is a spurious turd
21:00 asciilifeform in that it presents as meeting a certain set of expectations, which are violated six times every morning before breakfast, and rest assured the authors will say 'no matter'
21:02 asciilifeform incidentally, this is an issue first documented in (afaik, at least as early as) 2011, and remains unpatched. because actually fixing would require that one side 'surrender'
21:02 asciilifeform i.e., accept the layouts of the other.
21:02 asciilifeform very interestingly, there is scarcely any discussion of this matter on the net, besides two or three single-paragraph forum posts.
21:10 ben_vulpes thestringpuller: no!
21:10 ben_vulpes no supervisord
21:10 ben_vulpes one process per container
21:10 ben_vulpes docker run -d to daemonize the proc in container
21:10 BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz
21:11 moldysnizz Well, hi there.
21:13 BingoBoingo !up mike_c
21:13 mike_c down, down! first time in forever i can auth myself :)
21:14 BingoBoingo !down mike_c
21:14 mike_c ah, nice to have all the robots back.
21:25 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/olivierjanss/status/555889044618346498
21:25 assbot I have black on white proof of Mark Karpeles making multiple death threats against an ex-employee. So does Japanese police. /hashtag/RossUlbricht?src=hash
21:27 ben_vulpes (black and white, but whatever)
21:28 BingoBoingo Make be the proof really is black on white.
21:28 Apocalyptic funny thing
21:29 Apocalyptic "<mtgox555> [03:19:56] Ashley Barr is a guy who worked at MtGox who lived in (White Rock) Vancouver. DPR is quoted to wanting a guy in White Rock murdered"
21:30 BingoBoingo o.O
21:31 Apocalyptic ben_vulpes, he's french
21:32 ben_vulpes shitty excuse if you ask me
21:32 Apocalyptic probably a literal translation of "noir sur blanc" as the idiomatic expression goes
21:32 ben_vulpes no but you see american english is the only english
21:33 Apocalyptic you're a language terrorist nao ?
21:33 cazalla mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, sent each of you an email
21:47 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout << struct fo sho
21:48 mircea_popescu cool deal cazalla
21:55 mircea_popescu PeterL: X-Failed-Recipients: peter-at-btcscoop.com
21:56 mircea_popescu otherwise, http://pastebin.com/t9UKJGfx
21:56 assbot -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) hQQOAy/yVjmzb - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bzjw9R )
22:02 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/555869373764608002
22:03 assbot By the way, here's my 2013 interview with Silk Road's DPR that the DHS told a judge "sounds very much like Karpeles" http://t.co/ZFOtAXLbXL
22:03 BingoBoingo !up pete_dushenski
22:04 pete_dushenski thx!
22:05 thestringpuller yay for canadians
22:05 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: south park-ified would have an egg head lol
22:06 thestringpuller "canadian head" like ike
22:06 pete_dushenski the ponziest of lands!
22:06 pete_dushenski stupid chf! thx for blowing our cover guise!
22:06 mircea_popescu well... you got a pension system right ? just like the us ?
22:06 mircea_popescu that's a ponzi right there.
22:07 pete_dushenski thestringpuller now there would be a caricature :)
22:07 pete_dushenski pension and then some
22:07 BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/linus-torvalds-on-why-he-isnt-nice-i-dont-care-about-you/
22:07 assbot Linus Torvalds on why he isn’t nice: “I don’t care about you” | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3rRp )
22:08 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu so naturally the fees on canada's pension scheme have been escalating of late. it was once 1% of income, now up to 4% or something
22:08 * mircea_popescu not about to click on more arstechnica etc. qntra or bust.
22:10 joecool BingoBoingo: put it up again in a week when buzzfeed gets it
22:11 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/15/knowing-when-to-head-for-the-exits-is-how-the-rich-stay-rich/
22:11 assbot Knowing when to head for the exits is how the rich stay rich. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3Int )
22:12 BingoBoingo !up btcgrok
22:12 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski best header so far.
22:12 mircea_popescu by far.
22:12 mircea_popescu make VEX allcaps ultrathick.
22:12 mircea_popescu and get rid of that idiotic one inch white atop the header.
22:13 pete_dushenski the colour pops eh? but ya, the "vex" is too quiet...
22:13 decimation asciilifeform: what does it mean that Dr. Wertheimer decided to post his 'apology' in the AMS journal?
22:15 asciilifeform decimation: nsa is the largest employer of folks with any type of maths degree in usa.
22:15 asciilifeform decimation: whether this constitutes 'meaning' - i do not know.
22:16 decimation so this is a tacit admission that they can't hire anymore?
22:16 ben_vulpes http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-problem-falcon9-crash-landing-2015-1 << why are hydraulic actuators losing fluid?
22:16 assbot SpaceX Problem Falcon9 Crash Landing - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub4fWp )
22:16 asciilifeform decimation: unlikely
22:17 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes bad gaskets ?
22:17 ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/554023312033341440 << engineering?
22:17 assbot /alankerlin Hydraulics are usually closed, but that adds mass vs short acting open systems. F9 fins only work for 4 mins. We were ~10% off.
22:17 ben_vulpes if you have to carry the shit use on the way down, why...
22:17 ben_vulpes perhaps the add'l costs of sealed systems?
22:18 ben_vulpes grid fins are interesting.
22:18 decimation actually if the rocket lands 'face up', won't the fins be facing the 'wrong way'?
22:19 decimation seems like you would want vectored thrust
22:19 ben_vulpes these fins are at the top of the stage.
22:19 decimation ah interesting
22:19 ben_vulpes passively stable control problem.
22:20 ben_vulpes decimation: i think they *do* have vectored thrust, but the relight operation is risky and adds complexity to reentry trajectory.
22:20 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: docker is like being a kid at christmas all over again
22:21 thestringpuller what base image do you use for python apps?
22:21 ben_vulpes debian:6
22:21 ben_vulpes (hue)
22:21 ben_vulpes ubuntu, typically.
22:21 ben_vulpes if biting off the braindamage, why not eat all layers of the cake.
22:22 decimation ben_vulpes: ah, it seems they also have external retrorockets
22:22 decimation probably solid fuel
22:22 ben_vulpes decimation: "probably" << based on what?
22:22 ben_vulpes SRBs are not (afaik) extinguishable, relightable or throttleable.
22:22 ben_vulpes this leaves you with vectoring which is...not really enough for the task at hand.
22:23 decimation from your article: "In September 2013, SpaceX successfully fired boosters as the rocket fell to Earth, slowing it down so it could land softly."
22:23 decimation so I interpret 'boosters' as 'external retro packs'
22:23 decimation but the guy who wrote it could be a 'tard
22:24 ben_vulpes decimation: which link?
22:24 decimation the businessinsider article
22:24 ben_vulpes hm
22:25 ben_vulpes i'm only seeing two occurences of the string "slow" and neither in the context you quoted.
22:25 decimation oh wait, I"m looking at a different article http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-reuseable-falcon-9-ocean-landing-2014-12
22:25 assbot SpaceX Reuseable Falcon 9 Ocean Landing - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub56X3 )
22:25 mircea_popescu of course that'd be exactly opposite of boosting.
22:25 ben_vulpes hush you, it's a sign change.
22:25 mircea_popescu heh.
22:25 decimation indeed
22:25 mircea_popescu npw i finally understand what they mean by boosting the economy.
22:26 mircea_popescu busting.
22:26 decimation http://www.spacex.com/news/2013/10/14/upgraded-falcon-9-mission-overview < that link describes the actual relight sequence for the inital test
22:26 assbot Upgraded Falcon 9 Mission Overview | SpaceX ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub5apI )
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31863 @ 0.00043105 = 13.7345 BTC [+]
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31863 @ 0.00043105 = 13.7345 BTC [+]
22:26 ben_vulpes read the linked article, decimation
22:27 ben_vulpes business insider is, unsurprisingly, unable to parse straightforward rocket engineering reports.
22:27 ben_vulpes a) not a booster
22:27 ben_vulpes b) leave britney alone
22:29 mircea_popescu i dunno why you ppls keep reading/linking this crud, srsly. they're broken, we know they're broken... i guess it's decent comedy
22:29 ben_vulpes who's broken? what's broken?
22:29 mircea_popescu business outsider.
22:29 mircea_popescu arsderpica.
22:30 mircea_popescu faker. whatever.
22:30 ben_vulpes they do quote reddit as sources now
22:30 ben_vulpes asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: https://github.com/urbit/sample-apps
22:30 assbot urbit/sample-apps · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub5xk5 )
22:30 decimation lol. yeah I wish I knew wtf this 'leaking fluid' stuff means
22:31 ben_vulpes decimation: i don't think it's "leaking" so much as it's not a traditional "closed" hydraulic system.
22:32 ben_vulpes cursory research indicates that pressurization during powered flight comes from the onboard turbopump and that when not under powered flight there's some pressure reservoir.
22:32 ben_vulpes turns out, pv=nrt is tricky in practice.
22:32 ben_vulpes 10%!
22:33 decimation okay so there's a pre-pressurized tank that is at the top of the rocket, it runs out of pressure after pissing out its fluid
22:33 decimation make seense
22:33 mircea_popescu 10% is skill kind-of a lot.
22:33 mircea_popescu seeing how you could overfill.
22:33 decimation well, the problem is that every ounce of that tank costs $$$
22:35 mircea_popescu generally you can overfill any tankb y 10%
22:35 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: the urbit samples seem to consist of 'hello world'-style toys
22:35 mircea_popescu what's it gonna do, write its senator about it ?
22:36 decimation asciilifeform: moldbug hasn't make something 'useful' of urbit yet?
22:36 undata what a terrifying syntax
22:36 * decimation tried to run urbit after it was publicized, got tired of the entire world collapsing every other day
22:36 asciilifeform decimation: he made something very useful, from own point of view: a few $mil usd.
22:37 decimation heh. from some theilite?
22:37 asciilifeform decimation: andresen horowitz, iirc
22:38 ben_vulpes https://raw.githubusercontent.com/urbit/sample-apps/master/blazon/app/blazon/core.hook << undata indeed
22:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KP4y3x )
22:39 undata holy operator hell
22:40 undata then you'd have to memorize their goofy names for things too
22:40 undata reminds me of the ruby ass-dungeon
22:40 ben_vulpes why this obsession with new programming languages
22:40 undata ben_vulpes: scoreboard bro
22:40 asciilifeform undata: it works quite like, e.g., haskell.
22:41 undata asciilifeform: seemed it was some kind of functional environment, but I can't read it
22:41 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: mr mold's interest in programming language design, somehow, did not extend to any attempt at self-hosting the apparatus. the bulk of his code, iirc, is in straight c.
22:41 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> why this obsession with new programming languages <<< same reason every us chick has had three prior sex partners.
22:41 mircea_popescu even the ones that fuck the whole bar.
22:43 mircea_popescu https://phaven-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/image_part/asset/21981/sTmc2SxXQPQwoDH-EhCjHpN7TZM/medium_media_httpiimgurcomVh_gfDco.gif
22:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KP57dG )
22:44 undata it's all about getting your goofy pile of shit on HN
22:45 * asciilifeform confesses that he was immediately responsible for getting mr mold's shit onto HN
22:45 asciilifeform the public repo was initially 'secret'
22:45 undata demerit!
22:45 undata heh I don't know, there could be interesting ideas in there; I haven't looked
22:46 asciilifeform there were, in fact, interesting ideas in there. i quietly followed his work for more than a year.
22:47 mircea_popescu http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.php << guy has a shrine.
22:47 assbot Firearms Philosophy of Ivan Chesnokov ... ( http://bit.ly/1KP5xkl )
22:48 decimation really, moldbug 'needs' at least a few $bil to make hardware
22:49 undata "MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE" << ahahaha oh god, my sides
22:49 * undata reads the rest
22:49 mircea_popescu WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR RIFLE? STUPID HICK AMERICAN WITH TEN GALLON HAT AND GIANT PICKUP TRUCK LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE SIMONOV KARBIN AND SAYS "NO, RIFLE NEED MORE DUMB SHIT ON IT"?
22:50 mircea_popescu WHAT IS REASON FOR PISTOL GRIP?
22:50 mircea_popescu that's a good fucking question lmao. sks fired from the hip by teenage boys in rural texas ? no wonder people can't land fucking rockets.
22:52 undata the guy's right about the mosin
22:52 undata mine's still in incredible shape
22:53 mircea_popescu SURE, IS ONLY YUGOSLAV COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF SERGEI SIMONOV. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY SERGEI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!"
22:53 mircea_popescu i'd like to hire this guy
22:53 mircea_popescu do reddit mpex pr.
22:54 mod6 haha
22:55 mircea_popescu hey ivan chesnokov : apply will you. all you need is a gpg sig, you can sit behind 7 proxies for all i care.
22:55 mircea_popescu bitcoin buys many daughter thumb!
23:03 BingoBoingo "YUGOSLAV TYPE HAS SPECIAL GAS TUBE LEVER AND GRENADE SPIGOT ON END OF BARREL. I THINK LIVE GRENADE FOR CIVILIAN IN AMERICA IS PROBABLY ENOUGH REASON FOR GULAG, SO IS PROBABLY NO REAL USE FOR GRENADE SPIGOT TO YOU. "
23:04 BingoBoingo "YOU LOOK FOR NICE SHINE AND GOOD SMOOTH SURFACE. YOU LOOK FOR SHARP EDGE ON RIFLING OF BARREL. YOU NOTICE AND AVOID BARREL IF HAS POCKMARKS LIKE ASS OF FAT GIRL. "
23:04 mircea_popescu he has a good point re the light tho
23:05 mircea_popescu that's how you buy an unknown rifle.
23:06 BingoBoingo Yeah, so much wisdom here/
23:06 mircea_popescu IN RUSSIA WE ALSO HAVE RULES OF COURTING. DO NOT BRING SIDEARM TO FIRST TIME WITH GIRL. SENDS WRONG MESSAGE, THAT YOU ARE BAD CONSCRIPT WHO WILL RAPE GIRL.
23:06 mircea_popescu somehow it seems to me he uses conscript as transliteration of ciolovek
23:06 BingoBoingo ON SECOND TIME MANY DRINKS OF VODKA TO MAKE GIRL WANT FUCK; MATCHING ENOUGH DRINKS MAKES DANGEROUS TO CARRY SIDEARM.
23:07 mircea_popescu dude check it out, the only extant country he actually mentions is romania
23:08 mircea_popescu since no more yugo or motherland.
23:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55001 @ 0.00043648 = 24.0068 BTC [+] {4}
23:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55001 @ 0.00043648 = 24.0068 BTC [+] {4}
23:11 decimation my dad recently had his kitchen floor rebuilt. the wooden floor carpenters were apparently all romanian
23:12 mircea_popescu i can see it.
23:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00043134 = 6.1897 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00043134 = 6.1897 BTC [-]
23:14 asciilifeform decimation: mr mold said to be (publicly, iirc) that he is not interested in making hardware.
23:14 decimation that doesn't mean that hardware isn't interested in him!
23:18 mircea_popescu generally the paper revolutionaries looking for a little "investment" tend to make it clear they don't actually wish to rock the boat.
23:20 decimation ;;ticker
23:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 216.9, Best ask: 217.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 217.0, 24 hour volume: 73997.24940145, 24 hour low: 189.47, 24 hour high: 233.9, 24 hour vwap: 211.842718099
23:22 asciilifeform *said to me
23:28 decimation thestringpuller: you posted http://bitcoinobituaries.com/ a few weeks ago, it's quite amusing
23:28 assbot Bitcoin Obituaries: Following Bitcoin While It Dies & Goes Up in Price ... ( http://bit.ly/14GuTzB )
23:28 BingoBoingo https://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/sacred-cows-the-second-serving/
23:28 assbot sacred cows, the second serving. | the munchkin wrangler. ... ( http://bit.ly/14GuWvb )
23:29 mircea_popescu http://lil-purrfect-femme.tumblr.com/post/85850686448/be-careful-of-switch-rape
23:29 assbot Queen of Feminism — Be Careful of "Switch Rape" ... ( http://bit.ly/14Gv3qB )
23:30 mircea_popescu "So I think I was raped last night…. Or sexually assaulted. I was hooking up with this guy I regularly hook up with since the break up, but I’m not really into him and just kinda want him to satisfy me u know? So we were having sex like usual…. But then he turned me around and began penetrating me from behind “doggy style.” He kept going. Not ONCE did he ask if it was ok to change positions. What should I do
23:30 mircea_popescu ??! I don’t want him to hate me because I have a crush on his hot friend, but rape is not ok. I let him continue and we both came, but it’s natural to have sensations even when raped. I can’t even think straight anymore idk what to do. Thinking about posting his Facebook here."
23:30 mircea_popescu problem with idiots is that even middlingly executed parody is indistinguishable from their actual creeds.
23:31 asciilifeform 'Twice the recoil of the 9mm for 10% more muzzle energy.' << physics???
23:32 mircea_popescu energy is mv**2 ; impules is mv
23:32 mircea_popescu i imagine he means recoil = impulse
23:33 mircea_popescu thus it's more productive energy-wise to use faster bullets, not larger slower ones.
23:34 * asciilifeform still waiting to hear of man-portable 'light gas' gun.
23:35 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/279bef0688fb36857c4be85ada7231e7/tumblr_n5fjx9ePBD1ty7bx2o1_1280.jpg meanwhile.
23:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPaBoX )
23:37 decimation http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley-antitrust-case-settlement-poaching-engineers.html << lol "To head off a trial and the exposure of reams of incriminating emails, Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe — the four remaining defendants — are offering to pay $415 million, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations." "Last spring, the two sides agreed on $324.5 million. After legal fees, that would
23:37 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPaLfO )
23:37 decimation have amounted to a few thousand dollars for each of the 64,000 class members."
23:37 mircea_popescu lol. only half a billion ?
23:38 mircea_popescu but they can spend A TRILLION for a shitty plane, those people ?
23:38 decimation of course, esteemed professors in USG law explain how this is good: Ms. Lobel said. “But it’s a good result in that there has been much media attention to the illegality of such retention practices, real monetary consequences and promises to cease all such practices in the future.”"
23:38 mircea_popescu how come the disparity ?
23:38 mircea_popescu why's google, apple and etc not pay a trillion ? it's just bezzlars anyway.
23:38 mircea_popescu but they're suddenly NOT the same thing if they leave the circuit, are they.
23:38 asciilifeform especially not this way.
23:38 decimation hey little engineer derp! here's $5k for us supressing your wage for a decade - it's cool because the newspapers have said google is bad
23:38 mircea_popescu especially not.
23:39 asciilifeform if apple, google, spend 1000 usd, publicly - think of the stock value
23:39 mircea_popescu yet it was ok for bp to be assessed a trillion.
23:39 asciilifeform think of the punctured illusion of fat industry.
23:39 mircea_popescu because it went from bezzle pocket t obezzle pocket.
23:39 decimation well, bp is bad because oil is bad
23:39 mircea_popescu these magical money that make anyone rich up to the point where they'rer to be spent...
23:40 asciilifeform 'gnomish gold'
23:40 mircea_popescu x company sells for 100 mn. you talk to the founders... they made 50k off the deal.
23:40 mircea_popescu rly ?
23:40 asciilifeform or what was the legend.
23:40 mircea_popescu "yreah, my gf sells romance novels, it was like 3 of her books"
23:40 mircea_popescu "well i guess that's fair, they also sell for 20-30mn"
23:41 decimation mircea_popescu: conversely, it makes 'total sense' for the management of apple or whoever to buy back stock
23:41 decimation curiously they are all compensated directly in stock options & equivilents...
23:41 mircea_popescu doh.
23:41 mircea_popescu buffett explained this scam back when he was still you know, possessed of himself.
23:42 mircea_popescu hire some derp to work your company, pay him by share price, next thing you know he;'s buying up your stock.
23:42 mircea_popescu with your own moneyt
23:42 mircea_popescu and making the %.
23:42 decimation exactly. in the us system it's even worse, given the pervasive nature of index-fund investing by derps with retirements
23:43 mircea_popescu socialistoids of all flavours praise this system of "dilute ownership"
23:43 mircea_popescu because, obviously, it gives no one actual power.
23:43 xiando that bitcoin in commieland is starting to look like a wedge don't it http://btccharts.everdot.org/2015-01-16/wedgey.jpg oh well
23:44 decimation mircea_popescu: it makes the little people feel like they are getting their money's worth, as their stock valuation rises, while the management cashes out
23:44 decimation it's a brillant scam if you can run it
23:44 mircea_popescu hey xiando , translate this to chinese for me http://trilema.com/2015/if-you-go-on-a-bitcoin-fork-irrespective-which-scammer-proposes-it-you-will-lose-your-bitcoins/ ?
23:44 assbot If you go on a Bitcoin fork, irrespective which scammer proposes it, you will lose your Bitcoins. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPbAFD )
23:45 mircea_popescu decimation it's as fucking unbriliant as a lump of coal. at the end of the week, instead of having a decent steak and a game of bridge with intellgient people,
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23:45 mircea_popescu you're stuck hiding in your gated compound from imaginary niggers.
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23:46 xiando I do not speak chinese so sorry
23:47 mircea_popescu oh ? hm, i guess i got confused.
23:58 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/555932764965699585
23:58 assbot Judge Forrest ended the first week of the Silk Road trial by reminding the jury not to watch the Princess Bride over the weekend.
23:58 mircea_popescu lol wut ?!
23:58 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvbouyUcj41qetcz3o1_500.jpg
23:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/14GAztp )
23:59 BingoBoingo The Silk Road Aministrator title is a reference to the plot of that film.
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