00:02 |
ben_vulpes |
fluffypony: beauty? los angeles? |
00:02 |
ben_vulpes |
you must be out of your mind. |
00:16 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: first unrolled design on spartan... and the only one << wait which 'spartan' actually had room for unrolled sha2 ? |
00:17 |
* |
asciilifeform refrains from launching into rant re: how you can actually fit 10x more gates in fpga if you start 'cheating' by using secret data re: the internal layout, and how any system which offers this capability is actually telling lies when advertised with its highest-level intended abstractions as the correct ones. |
00:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00073341 = 23.6158 BTC [-] {2} |
00:19 |
kakobrekla |
XC6SXL150 |
00:20 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
00:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Old mining conversation: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2012/02/10#l1328912036 |
00:29 |
assbot |
BitcoinStats |
00:30 |
asciilifeform |
snore. |
00:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, old. From the days where scrypt was to many the anti-GPU pill, and delivered BTC ASIC were about a year away |
00:31 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> decimation kinda what we're trying recently. << oh hey we're paying people nao? who's this "we" and hey jurov what's the story on an addy, eh? |
00:32 |
asciilifeform |
^^^ |
00:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2071218dd794fc678ba3272537ecd010/tumblr_n7speit5Op1ra163eo4_r1_250.gif << lol! reminiscent of your grenade proposal |
00:33 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform's looking for his rocket |
00:34 |
* |
asciilifeform doubts we have anything larger than a toy rocket here in this box |
00:34 |
asciilifeform |
anyone who wants to ride that - is welcome to... |
00:34 |
ben_vulpes |
*pfhsheeeeew* |
00:34 |
ben_vulpes |
ah, estes. |
00:35 |
* |
ben_vulpes was working on the big engine handling license for a bit |
00:36 |
* |
asciilifeform reads the logs and finds the very pertinent unix-on-z80 atrocity |
00:36 |
asciilifeform |
yes, no shortage of folks willing to ride toy rocket. |
00:36 |
ben_vulpes |
interesting thing about toy rockets |
00:36 |
ben_vulpes |
build your own exotica, be exempt from licensensing. |
00:36 |
ben_vulpes |
derp |
00:37 |
ben_vulpes |
licensing* |
00:37 |
ben_vulpes |
buy exotica via mail order - must have license for such. |
00:37 |
asciilifeform |
afaik in usa one can even fly an airplane, below (100? kg) in mass, without license |
00:37 |
ben_vulpes |
this is similar to the canadian firearms protocol, where when during the process of acquisition they ask one to |
00:38 |
ben_vulpes |
"please list all people with whom you cohabitated or were in a relationship for the last two years so that we can ask them if you're going to go shoot them" |
00:38 |
ben_vulpes |
nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. |
00:41 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? |
00:42 |
asciilifeform |
tiny rocket, ejected from what amounts to a flare pistol - goes through, e.g., a truck |
00:51 |
ben_vulpes |
vaguely |
00:51 |
ben_vulpes |
more interested in mems systems |
00:51 |
ben_vulpes |
<- hipster |
00:51 |
asciilifeform |
eh this was a vietnam-era mechanical thing. |
00:51 |
ben_vulpes |
micro elecro mechanical systems systems |
00:52 |
ben_vulpes |
i want mems-controlled aero surfaces in my projectiles |
00:52 |
ben_vulpes |
i am a child of my time |
00:52 |
asciilifeform |
there's a 'golden toilet' vendor claiming to be churning out the proverbial 'bullet that goes around corners' on precisely this principle |
00:52 |
* |
asciilifeform not involved with this |
00:54 |
ben_vulpes |
i find it hard to believe that corners can be turned with the control forces effected by mems systems |
00:55 |
asciilifeform |
depends on radius of turn |
00:55 |
asciilifeform |
(picture a 'question mark' shape. easy to keep turn radius wide if there is room) |
00:55 |
ben_vulpes |
corners attractive to purchasers in urban combat are unrealistic |
00:57 |
ben_vulpes |
trajectory tweaks for ballistics or sniper action, though... |
01:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.00011 = 2.2 BTC [+] |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
Level 2: 0 via 1 connections lol da fuck does that work |
01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
<fluffypony> Beauty << looking for beauty in la ? what, like on the street ?! you want beauty, go to burbank. |
01:15 |
BingoBoingo |
.status |
01:15 |
punkbot |
BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago |
01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> nevermind that the sane person will never answer that question in a way useful to the questioner. << yeah but then if they get in an altercation with that person later not answering usefully usually makes the difference between a dismissed case and a felony convicion. |
01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: speaking of rockets and small arms, familiar with american invention, 'gyrojet' ? <<< isn't this really that french invention ? the rocket powered grenade that regularly gets stopped in branches etc and kills the shooter ? |
01:17 |
assbot |
Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
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02:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00071871 = 16.0632 BTC [-] |
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02:30 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/ |
02:30 |
assbot |
WarOfLife (S.WOL), October 2014 Statement (closing) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
02:34 |
ben_vulpes |
another one bites the dust |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Fall drama season arrives! |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
First atc, then X-BT, nao WoL |
02:38 |
ben_vulpes |
oh first atc? |
02:38 |
ben_vulpes |
coulda sworn something died before that |
02:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Prolly was something forgettable |
02:40 |
ben_vulpes |
clearly nothing of import |
02:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00072451 = 9.1288 BTC [+] |
02:52 |
mircea_popescu |
well these'd be the clean closures |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
there's all the moolah mcxnow breakoutgaming moopay etc blowups |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
there's all the unannounced ethereum etc deaths, |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
piles of stuff. |
03:03 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/disney-patents-piracy-free-search-engine/ << Done |
03:03 |
assbot |
Disney Patents "Piracy Free" Search Engine | Qntra.net |
03:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00073602 = 7.8018 BTC [+] |
03:18 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/war-of-life-closing/ |
03:18 |
assbot |
War of Life Closing | Qntra.net |
03:23 |
dub |
what a scam |
03:23 |
mircea_popescu |
the worst. |
03:24 |
cazalla |
reskin as nigs vs whites |
03:24 |
dub |
!t s.wol mp |
03:24 |
assbot |
It says some pelt-wearin' trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect that reward money. |
03:24 |
dub |
!t mp s.wol |
03:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000086 / 0.000086 / 0.000086 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC) |
03:24 |
dub |
ouchies for whoever bought at 8600 |
03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell hanbot you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:25 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell devthedev you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:25 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:25 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell princessnell you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:25 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:26 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell pete_dushenski you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:26 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:26 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov |
03:27 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
03:27 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:27 |
mircea_popescu |
teh p |
03:27 |
mircea_popescu |
teh p's have it huh. |
03:28 |
BingoBoingo |
So many p's and to think diametric and decimation are hard to tell apart |
03:33 |
BingoBoingo |
.status |
03:33 |
punkbot |
BingoBoingo: 2 pending deeds | Last bundle 4 hours and 50 minutes ago |
03:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Tipping service update feat Weev (who was suspended from twitter nao) http://weev.livejournal.com/410337.html |
03:41 |
assbot |
weev: Gratipay allowed its SJW employee to stop my donations in secret. |
03:42 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo isn't this the guy with the totally failed pseudo-kiclstarter max keiser campaign thing ? |
03:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
03:42 |
BingoBoingo |
The Troll with the "Hedge Fund" |
03:43 |
mircea_popescu |
that was so much lulz. what was it called, jumpkick ? startderp ? |
03:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Troll llc. |
03:43 |
BingoBoingo |
!s sad and disappoint |
03:43 |
assbot |
0 results for 'sad and disappoint' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sad+and+disappoint |
03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
no the "platform" |
03:44 |
cazalla |
startjoin |
03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ah yes! |
03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!s startjoin |
03:44 |
assbot |
4 results for 'startjoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=startjoin |
03:45 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.startjoin.com/comments/project/trollc |
03:45 |
assbot |
User comments around the project: TRO LLC |
03:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http://41.media.tumblr.com/1cbd5bdff9ad29d8b278b90a9344d98c/tumblr_n3e4gz3bii1t8zkreo1_500.jpg girls just wanna have fun... |
03:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, those comments |
03:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it did deliver ze mucho lulz. |
03:49 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, this is all for me. tomorrow! |
03:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vexual |
03:52 |
Vexual |
bag girl did she survive ;;8ball |
03:52 |
Vexual |
;;8ball |
03:52 |
gribble |
One would be wise to think so. |
03:56 |
Vexual |
count the teeth make th ebet |
04:04 |
Vexual |
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/forget-the-real-melbourne-cup-form-guide-this-is-what-you-need-if-you-know-nothing-about-racing/story-fnibcaa0-1227110357781?nk=c075cca746594e4227002a4c821d4a6f |
04:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14976 @ 0.00074343 = 11.1336 BTC [+] |
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04:43 |
punkman |
BingoBoingo: you rascal, triggered another bug in bot with your last two deeds |
04:43 |
BingoBoingo |
O.o |
04:43 |
jurov |
hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today |
04:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Thank you jurov |
04:43 |
punkman |
bug fixed 3 hours ago by upstream, living on the edge! |
04:44 |
punkman |
is the website snappy for everyone? |
04:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure. |
04:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Website hides the secret "if bingo then fuck you" code that drives the backend |
04:46 |
punkman |
this thing got so many threads and subprocesses, I wonder what new and exciting breakage tomorrow will bring |
04:47 |
BingoBoingo |
punkbot: Tomorrow you find an SHA collision |
04:55 |
BingoBoingo |
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/epic-2014-recalling-a-decade-old-imagining-of-the-tech-driven-media-future/ |
04:55 |
assbot |
EPIC 2014: recalling a decade-old imagining of the media’s future | Ars Technica |
05:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00074539 = 12.0753 BTC [+] |
05:11 |
cazalla |
prefer the greyhounds to the cup tbh |
05:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!up phf |
05:17 |
gabriel_laddel |
!s deedbot language |
05:17 |
assbot |
0 results for 'deedbot language' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot+language |
05:18 |
gabriel_laddel |
punkman: what language have you written deedbot in? |
05:18 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
python |
05:19 |
punkman |
gabriel_laddel: https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler |
05:19 |
assbot |
extempore/deedbundler · GitHub |
05:20 |
punkman |
you can grab the script under deedtools/ and sweep some of the unspent bundle txs |
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05:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00074705 = 9.5996 BTC [+] {2} |
05:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00074837 = 2.507 BTC [+] |
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06:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27731 @ 0.00074615 = 20.6915 BTC [-] {3} |
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06:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20212 @ 0.00074155 = 14.9882 BTC [-] |
06:44 |
punkbot |
Bundled 2 deeds | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1uM6gZk7 |
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07:07 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 1uM6gZk7VBTWEKabZXK5EPcugt9dYijvc | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1uM6gZk7 |
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07:32 |
thestringpuller |
;;seen jurov |
07:32 |
gribble |
jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jurov> hi all, i received the s.qntr shares, will start distributing them, or the receipts later today |
07:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00074512 = 12.2945 BTC [+] |
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08:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00074572 = 4.5489 BTC [+] |
08:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00074541 = 10.1376 BTC [-] {2} |
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09:00 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell mircea_popescu nope, not the french one. gyrojet went out of print because, iirc, of misfires. |
09:00 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
09:03 |
asciilifeform |
WOL << RIP. |
09:03 |
asciilifeform |
it was neato. |
09:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/03/drone-wars |
09:06 |
assbot |
China Builds Anti-Drone Laser Tech | TechCrunch |
09:07 |
asciilifeform |
see also: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-02-2014#488932 |
09:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-02-2014 00:14:14; asciilifeform: let's do gedankenexperiment. |
09:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26825 @ 0.00074131 = 19.8856 BTC [-] {2} |
09:13 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes, mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org << where's the other stuff? |
09:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
mornin |
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09:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00074281 = 17.2332 BTC [+] |
09:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00074133 = 21.0167 BTC [-] {2} |
09:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13255 @ 0.00074371 = 9.8579 BTC [+] {2} |
09:55 |
mike_c |
dub:ouchies for whoever bought at 8600 << nobody did. fabian was testing and bought 1 share of everything. |
09:56 |
FabianB |
not of s.wol |
09:58 |
mike_c |
you sure? it was at the same time and only 1 share. |
09:58 |
mike_c |
in any case, it was only 1-2 shares. |
10:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
I'm holding 72277 S.WOL purchased at 0.00004006 |
10:03 |
* |
ThickAsThieves wins. |
10:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
plus a boatload of ATCs |
10:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
good times |
10:04 |
chetty |
holding usually wins in mpex |
10:04 |
mike_c |
yeah, we didn't do each other any favors. |
10:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
not anymore |
10:04 |
mike_c |
i've got boats of atc too |
10:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
curse of pankkake |
10:05 |
mike_c |
anyway, sorry WoL sucked. |
10:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12685 @ 0.00074266 = 9.4206 BTC [-] |
10:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm not sure we got to learn whether it sucked |
10:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
but if theres any desire to kill it, it should of course be killed |
10:05 |
mike_c |
the market (consumers) certainly voted |
10:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
did consumers know it existed? |
10:06 |
mike_c |
like any business, some did. and they didn't want to play. many additions/changes were made, with no effect. |
10:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah it was tricky sell |
10:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe would be better encompassed in a broader gaming site |
10:07 |
mike_c |
thing is, if you market a little and get a little, you market more. if you market a little and get nothing.. |
10:07 |
mike_c |
various rounds of improvements & marketing were tried |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
mike_c youre probably right, but to be annoying, it's also possible your initial set of bettors werent your target market |
10:08 |
chetty |
frankly I didnt have the patience for it, I played a couple times but kept forgetting to check back |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
ie me |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont play games |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i tried it |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
then stopped cuz well of course |
10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
probly most of us dont play bitgames |
10:09 |
mike_c |
i don't know what the right answer is, and I am not a master marketer. but if the games had been more fun there would have been more traction than 0. |
10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
word |
10:09 |
chetty |
<< not much on straight gambling |
10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
then my final crit would be that maybe it shouldnt have IPOd at all |
10:09 |
mike_c |
that is possible |
10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe swol can sell it? |
10:11 |
mike_c |
"it"? |
10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
the game |
10:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00074266 = 10.62 BTC [-] |
10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
sell it to satoshicasino or whaetver |
10:11 |
mike_c |
meh. "how much will you pay me for this game nobody likes" |
10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
haha |
10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
one man's trash |
10:11 |
mike_c |
maybe they'll give me ATC for it ;) |
10:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'll give you all my atc for it |
10:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's only fair |
10:13 |
kakobrekla |
sorry to hear mike_c :\ |
10:13 |
mike_c |
thanks. them's the breaks. |
10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
actually this is a question |
10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
is the game not an asset of SWOL's? |
10:14 |
mike_c |
asset valued at 0, yes. |
10:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
everything never sold is 0 |
10:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
in that sense |
10:14 |
kakobrekla |
idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category |
10:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
certainly its value is higher than 0 |
10:15 |
mike_c |
not sure i agree, but say its value is 1 btc. how much would it cost to sell it? |
10:15 |
kakobrekla |
btcfiat i will correct myself. |
10:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21138 @ 0.00074491 = 15.7459 BTC [+] {2} |
10:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont think either of those values is known |
10:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
but you da boss |
10:16 |
punkman |
mike_c: was thinking of playing some WoL, just my luck :P |
10:17 |
punkman |
so did everyone drop out of the btc games too? |
10:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1462 @ 0.0007484 = 1.0942 BTC [+] |
10:17 |
mike_c |
yeah. 0 bets on last 4 weekly games. |
10:18 |
mike_c |
<+kakobrekla> idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << I can't think of any examples to refute this. |
10:19 |
mike_c |
now that JD is gone |
10:19 |
kakobrekla |
the parrot. |
10:19 |
kakobrekla |
it is dead. |
10:24 |
punkman |
puzzle now has 0.05btc http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/HEvYcqtx |
10:24 |
assbot |
Deed HEvYcqtx | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
10:25 |
punkman |
I'm making a series of puzzles, this one is not very good, checking difficulty |
10:25 |
punkman |
help me test |
10:34 |
FabianB |
http://guardtime.com/ksi-technology/ <-- are they trying to market their own fork of closed-source namecoin? |
10:34 |
assbot |
KSI Technology | Guardtime |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
11:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35907 @ 0.00074124 = 26.6157 BTC [-] {3} |
11:13 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: updated. jurov: any word on the turdatron? |
11:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00074061 = 14.8492 BTC [-] |
11:24 |
Pierre_Rochard |
I’m writing up bitcoin accounting software, do y’all have any feature requests? https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/pacioli |
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11:24 |
assbot |
NakamotoInstitute/pacioli · GitHub |
11:36 |
chetty |
Pierre_Rochard, some good verifyable encryption, like you can use your own pgp key or something to cover any stored files |
11:38 |
nubbins` |
.deed http://dpaste.com/0CEGF80.txt |
11:38 |
punkbot |
nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
11:38 |
nubbins` |
right on |
11:38 |
nubbins` |
expected deed id: 62Mg7bxwiWUSHFzytWMyDsLdDUKRDnsF4MoJbsMNFKcL |
11:38 |
nubbins` |
expected public address: 18puZUqAxbErt5V92xCr1DaDYgnoRmkmhr |
11:38 |
* |
nubbins` crosses fingers |
11:42 |
Pierre_Rochard |
chetty: that’s reasonable, though only archived ‘source documents’ could be encrypted with PGP without really hurting performance. The other accounting records would use postgresql’s built in encryption features: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/encryption-options.html |
11:42 |
assbot |
PostgreSQL: Documentation: 9.3: Encryption Options |
11:43 |
Pierre_Rochard |
chetty: keep in mind, you would host the database yourself, ideally on localhost without exposing it to the internet |
11:48 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1AKLFcJb |
11:50 |
punkman |
nubbins`: expected deed id: 62Mg7bxwiWUSHFzytWMyDsLdDUKRDnsF4MoJbsMNFKcL << that can't be right |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
nod, checking now |
11:50 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 1AKLFcJbTfFJzVyqdEc2jrZnWNBuAQc4yt | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1AKLFcJb |
11:51 |
punkman |
I guess hex string used where you need byte string |
11:52 |
nubbins` |
yeah, if i pull the hex down via json it verifies ok |
11:52 |
joecool |
what is this? is there documentation on it yet? |
11:52 |
nubbins` |
i'm sure it's something else to do with line endings |
11:57 |
diametric |
http://www.underhanded-c.org/ |
11:57 |
assbot |
The Underhanded C Contest |
12:03 |
nubbins` |
punkman: yeah, verified it's a line ending issue |
12:04 |
nubbins` |
my local file has \n, but if i grab the raw deed from pastebin / dpaste via curl and save it to a file, it's all \r\n |
12:04 |
nubbins` |
but if i pipe it to my clipboard instead of using curl -o, and then paste into a new text file, it preserves \n |
12:04 |
nubbins` |
so... shrug. |
12:05 |
punkman |
that id was too long though |
12:05 |
nubbins` |
o? |
12:06 |
punkman |
oh wait, my bad |
12:06 |
nubbins` |
just a straight-up shasum |
12:07 |
* |
nubbins` scratches chin |
12:07 |
nubbins` |
so i guess my verification/prediction util should convert any \n to \r\n |
12:07 |
asciilifeform |
underhanded c contest << and yes, that's a brand-new one! |
12:07 |
jurov |
ben_vulpes, asciilifeform: it should accept patches/sigs as described in http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev |
12:08 |
jurov |
just db output is missing |
12:08 |
jurov |
but now i need to sort out s.wol first |
12:08 |
asciilifeform |
db output ? |
12:08 |
jurov |
the TODO links |
12:11 |
punkman |
nubbins`: hmm same here, so does dpaste convert to CRLF? |
12:11 |
nubbins` |
.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WtVe054c |
12:11 |
punkbot |
nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
'There were a few serialization tricks. Submitter Arthur ODwyer writes usernames and IDs into a string' - from last year's winner. |
12:12 |
nubbins` |
punkman i have nfi. like i said, i get different results when i do curl -o vs curl | pbcopy |
12:12 |
asciilifeform |
'Ti am pleased to learn that o'dwyer is alive. he, or at least a fellow by very same name, and i, went to school together. |
12:12 |
nubbins` |
almost makes me wonder if curl is doing it :0 |
12:12 |
punkman |
tried with wget/curl, both gave me CRLF |
12:13 |
nubbins` |
didja try piping it into a pastebin/clipboard util? |
12:13 |
asciilifeform |
' todo links? |
12:13 |
nubbins` |
and then pasting into text editor |
12:13 |
punkman |
yeah got LF then |
12:13 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: on the listinf/btc-dev there will be links to list with accepted patches and their signatures |
12:14 |
nubbins` |
strange hey? |
12:14 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: does that mean we have a maintainer? |
12:14 |
nubbins` |
curl > output.txt also preserves CRLF |
12:15 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: i mean, accepted by turdatron . that does not mean they are valid in any sense |
12:15 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
12:16 |
nubbins` |
<+nubbins`> .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WtVe054c <<< expecting deed id AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 and public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF |
12:17 |
jurov |
*sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier |
12:17 |
jurov |
now it just one balance thither, another yonder.. as susual on mpex |
12:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.underhanded-c.org/_m_201409.html << best C! |
12:18 |
assbot |
The Underhanded C Contest » 2014 » September |
12:18 |
nubbins` |
punkman see above ^^ |
12:18 |
nubbins` |
http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 |
12:18 |
assbot |
Deed AF1zMmjk | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
12:19 |
nubbins` |
assuming no other deeds get submitted, address should match up as well |
12:20 |
punkman |
punkbot, status |
12:20 |
punkbot |
punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 31 minutes ago |
12:20 |
punkman |
btw, punkbot will now announce additions/removals from trust list |
12:21 |
nubbins` |
nice |
12:21 |
jurov |
;;rate punkman -10 test :DDDD |
12:22 |
nubbins` |
tool for verifying submitted deeds: http://pastebin.com/AXpdkmvJ |
12:22 |
assbot |
checkdeed.js - Pastebin.com |
12:23 |
nubbins` |
tool for predicting deed ID of clearsigned file: http://pastebin.com/Ls76h1kd |
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12:23 |
assbot |
processdeed.js - Pastebin.com |
12:23 |
nubbins` |
joecool you wanted documentation, see above ;) |
12:24 |
punkman |
nubbins`, here's how I do it for raw bundles, also checks blockchain https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler/blob/master/deedtools/deedtools.py |
12:24 |
assbot |
deedbundler/deedtools.py at master · extempore/deedbundler · GitHub |
12:24 |
nubbins` |
handy deed utils |
12:25 |
nubbins` |
!s deed utils |
12:25 |
assbot |
0 results for 'deed utils' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deed+utils |
12:25 |
nubbins` |
shrug, :D |
12:26 |
nubbins` |
punkman this thing is coming together :D |
12:28 |
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Bet created: "Eric Frein to receive death sentence" http://bitbet.us/bet/1061/ |
12:28 |
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Unable to get details for bet 1062: invalid character '<' looking for beginning of value |
12:29 |
punkman |
wasn't that bet created a few days ago |
12:30 |
kakobrekla |
yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used |
12:31 |
kakobrekla |
(its still using twitter and i just pushed some nonsense there) |
12:31 |
kakobrekla |
fuck you to anyone who mentions rss again. |
12:32 |
punkman |
kakobrekla: what's the custom rss URL, maybe it'd be useful for bitbet.py |
12:32 |
kakobrekla |
you mentioned rss. |
12:36 |
nubbins` |
heh |
12:48 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt |
12:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.0007433 = 6.1761 BTC [+] |
12:55 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/u-s-gene-patents-patient-care-stymied-in-canada-hospital-claims-1.2820211 |
12:55 |
assbot |
U.S. gene patents: Patient care stymied in Canada, hospital claims - Health - CBC News |
12:56 |
nubbins` |
<+punkbot> Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt << it works! |
12:56 |
assbot |
Bundle 14GVvUrt | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
12:56 |
jurov |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk_VszbZa_s |
12:56 |
assbot |
Такого как Путин / One Like Putin, English Subs - YouTube |
12:56 |
* |
jurov invites asciilifeform to dance |
12:56 |
jurov |
o/ |
12:57 |
jurov |
\o |
12:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00074028 = 11.1042 BTC [-] |
12:59 |
kakobrekla |
speaking of Putin, if anyone doesnt know of, check out Rasputin. |
12:59 |
thestringpuller |
Grigori? |
12:59 |
thestringpuller |
;;google Grigori Rasputin |
12:59 |
gribble |
Grigori Rasputin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin>; Rasputin - Biography - Religious Figure - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/rasputin-9452162>; Grigory Rasputin - Russiapedia - RT.com: <http://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/history-and-mythology/grigory-rasputin/> |
13:02 |
joecool |
rastafarian putin |
13:04 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/14GVvUrt |
13:13 |
nubbins` |
joecool i did this once |
13:13 |
nubbins` |
can't find original, here's a lo-res copy |
13:13 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/0bukv18 |
13:13 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
13:16 |
jurov |
Okay, it turns out the balance changes were just cancelled orders and S.WOL balance did not vanish yet |
13:16 |
jurov |
so i can move on to s.qntr writers |
13:16 |
jurov |
coinbr users, auth with gribble and claim here or PM me your username |
13:17 |
jurov |
will be processed in FIFO manner |
13:18 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo ^ |
13:19 |
jurov |
cazalla peterl PinkPosixPXE ^ |
13:22 |
thestringpuller |
jurov: BingoBoingo submitted a deed. check logs. |
13:24 |
jurov |
so we'll let our lawyers talk, okay |
13:32 |
nubbins` |
.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZvVKFM9 |
13:32 |
punkbot |
nubbins`: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
13:32 |
nubbins` |
better late than never |
13:35 |
thestringpuller |
nubbins`: did the poster ever leave canada? I tracked it last night and it said "scanned" |
13:35 |
nubbins` |
i'll look into it :) |
13:35 |
thestringpuller |
ty :D |
13:35 |
nubbins` |
asciilifeform in the meantime it looks like i fucked up the dates in this contract |
13:36 |
kakobrekla |
(Darwin) < got that right. |
13:39 |
jurov |
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: transferred |
13:48 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1DiTPHSU |
13:52 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 1DiTPHSU9ztLsLvYeT9qTqB9n4vJUrPHZU | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1DiTPHSU |
13:53 |
kakobrekla |
also from today http://www.bestbitcoincasino.com/bitcoin-adds-new-flavors-to-prediction-markets/ |
13:53 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Adds New Flavors to Prediction Markets |
13:54 |
kakobrekla |
>Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account. |
13:54 |
kakobrekla |
>< |
13:55 |
mike_c |
they should change their name to firstbestbitcoincasino. |
13:55 |
kakobrekla |
000000001firstbestbitcoincasino |
13:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00073914 = 13.8958 BTC [-] |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
text is weird but at least bitbet has the crown on the .jpg |
13:59 |
mike_c |
if you put the word 'premier' on the homepage you would have won the text too. |
13:59 |
* |
kakobrekla still learning. |
14:04 |
punkman |
;;ticker |
14:04 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 327.32, Best ask: 327.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 327.98, 24 hour volume: 10636.65677201, 24 hour low: 322.0, 24 hour high: 333.99, 24 hour vwap: 328.637453091 |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
14:24 |
punkman |
"During her rise to fame DePol insured her legs for $100,000 after which newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppina_Morlacchi |
14:24 |
assbot |
Giuseppina Morlacchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
14:27 |
punkman |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Zcu3yCAAAuw5I.png |
14:29 |
punkman |
!up growth |
14:29 |
punkman |
hope it's benign |
14:30 |
thestringpuller |
heh |
14:34 |
punkman |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11205477/Ted-Baker-loses-5m-after-employee-steals-seven-tonnes-of-clothes.html |
14:34 |
assbot |
Ted Baker loses £5m after employee steals seven tonnes of clothes - Telegraph |
14:37 |
punkman |
that article delivers |
14:38 |
punkman |
"NODL had spotted losses after he joined the company in 2003, but had mistakenly put them down to flaws in its stock control system." |
14:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!t m s.qntr |
14:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC) |
14:42 |
thestringpuller |
whoa it's moving |
14:43 |
punkbot |
[trust-update] no changes |
14:44 |
ben_vulpes |
that's the oddest damn donation mechanism i've seen in my life. |
14:44 |
punkman |
ben_vulpes: heh |
14:44 |
punkman |
!t m s.bbet |
14:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00049 / 0.00049 / 0.00049 (8 shares, 0.00 BTC) |
14:50 |
* |
jurov just learned of "openssl smime" ...truly a kitchen sink, this |
14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> "newspapers claimed Morlacchi was 'more valuable than Kentucky'. << well, at that time they were! |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes the clothes ?! |
14:53 |
kakobrekla |
punkman getting ready to dump ? >< |
14:53 |
kakobrekla |
also unfortunate name, now you need to be tabbed twice. |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
very much so. it pains me to tab twice. |
14:54 |
punkman |
maybe I should be 1punkman |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe just 1punk |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
you know punk and man form an oxymoron btw ? |
14:54 |
bounce |
1p. cheap bugger. |
14:54 |
punkman |
bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
good idea. |
14:54 |
kakobrekla |
deep penetration bot? |
14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
and incidentally, the same naming convention as for websites (distinct first two letters) works here, too. |
14:55 |
punkman |
deep, double, dry, take your pick |
14:55 |
kakobrekla |
daniel p bot ? |
14:56 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: what's the oxymoron |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
a punk is a young boy used (generally against his will) for the sexual gratification of adult males. |
14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
!up kiwi-test-user |
14:56 |
kiwi-test-user |
syn |
14:56 |
ben_vulpes |
ack |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman http://trilema.com/2012/big-rock-candy-mountain/ "The punk rolled up his big blue eyes And said to the jocker, Sandy," |
14:57 |
assbot |
Big Rock Candy Mountain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
14:58 |
bounce |
I thought it had to do with mohawks and guitars and things |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes. |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
eeexactly. |
14:58 |
kakobrekla |
why not 'deedbot' anyway? |
14:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13534 @ 0.00073678 = 9.9716 BTC [-] {2} |
15:02 |
ben_vulpes |
rapidssl transmits certificates in the clear via email |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
!up cb_bitcoin |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes what, that is a problem ? o.O |
15:03 |
ben_vulpes |
i don't even know any more |
15:04 |
danielpbarron |
;;later tell punkman <+punkman> bot's alt-name is dpbot, can switch << please do |
15:04 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:04 |
ben_vulpes |
double penetration bot? |
15:05 |
kakobrekla |
sorta on topic, i tried to get a box at OVH and when they asked for dox, i asked for pgp. after about 10 days, i got a reply : You can upload the documents to Dropbox or google Docs and password protect them. And provide us with the password. And we will be able to validate your account. |
15:05 |
kakobrekla |
gtfo. |
15:05 |
punkman |
speaking of young boys http://dpaste.com/383BH45 |
15:05 |
assbot |
dpaste: 383BH45 |
15:06 |
kakobrekla |
lol!! |
15:07 |
mike_c |
kakobrekla: where does bitbet live now? or is it state secret? |
15:07 |
danielpbarron |
and by please do I mean please do not call it dpb* |
15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla lol. nice going! |
15:09 |
jurov |
punkman you need to be tabbed twice. << i suggest change to spunkman |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
then it needs to be stabbed like fifty times. |
15:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00073624 = 11.1908 BTC [-] |
15:12 |
bounce |
wtf does ovh even demand dox at all? isn't money enough these days? |
15:12 |
punkman |
lots of hosting companies do that |
15:12 |
punkman |
in case you are a haxx0r or whatever |
15:12 |
jurov |
yes they cover their ass if you start doing sth illegal |
15:12 |
kakobrekla |
mike_c actually im going to be moving it tonight it seems atm still on hetzner, new home is securedservers.com as anyone with the public ip address can figure out |
15:14 |
punkman |
"100% uptime, GUARANTEED!" |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
mhm |
15:14 |
punkman |
it must be good |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
hehe |
15:14 |
bounce |
that site takes about five seconds to go from blank page to something visible. |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce money is nothing these days. |
15:14 |
mike_c |
which dc you going with? |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
i picked this by recommendation, not by design |
15:14 |
mike_c |
amsterdam/phonix/ashburn? |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
ams |
15:15 |
mike_c |
good choice. now just convince management you need to visit the servers often. |
15:15 |
kakobrekla |
lol why |
15:16 |
mike_c |
cuz amsterdam is fun! |
15:16 |
kakobrekla |
ah |
15:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00073385 = 15.9245 BTC [-] {2} |
15:16 |
punkman |
that'd help getting the hosting bill to 9k a month |
15:16 |
punkman |
you are not spending enough kako! |
15:17 |
kakobrekla |
jus need 8.5k really |
15:17 |
jurov |
plane tickets to buenos aires will help, too |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
how much is yurp to ba ? like 1k ? |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
2k ? |
15:19 |
kakobrekla |
i dunno |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
also, anyone own aged/trusted accounts on BlackHatWorld TrafficPlanet WarriorForum DigitalPoint SitePoint they might wish to sell or share ? |
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15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta buy some media support for this qntra thing. |
15:21 |
punkman |
about 1.5k round-trip from Italy |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
euro ? |
15:21 |
punkman |
yea |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
still, not so terrible. |
15:22 |
bounce |
what are those? |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce forums where the derpy web kids gather. |
15:23 |
kakobrekla |
mp just wants more ddos |
15:23 |
kakobrekla |
"hey, its pageviews" |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla it totally was worth every dime i didn't pay, that ddos. |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
did you see the thanks from the capitol of fires i got ? |
15:23 |
kakobrekla |
dunno? |
15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
!s from:mircea_popescu pastebin |
15:24 |
assbot |
43 results for 'from:mircea_popescu pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+pastebin |
15:25 |
kakobrekla |
everything but a pastebin link |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2014#906564 |
15:25 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-11-2014 19:28:51; mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/PnsGiZ2A <<< dude... this is just what i do. i save the people who save people from FIRE |
15:26 |
kakobrekla |
lolk |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
no dude, now i have an in with brooklyn fd. if i ever got a fire problem in brooklyn ima call my man raffa direct. |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't understand how the world works. |
15:27 |
punkman |
https://twitter.com/st_vincent/status/528982224075763712 |
15:27 |
assbot |
Really need to do laundry, but torn between "SLUT" and "COWBOY" settings... http://t.co/AkFJnECkzm |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahaha |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really "cowboytoy" |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
which i suppose means cowgirl ? |
15:30 |
punkman |
http://cryptome.org/2014/11/fbi-mil-isis-homeland-threat.htm |
15:33 |
punkman |
what happened to fbi miner guy? |
15:33 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/7th-underhanded-c-contest-going-on-now/ |
15:33 |
assbot |
7th Underhanded C Contest Going on Now | Qntra.net |
15:34 |
bounce |
is this proof the USG is completely filled with muppets? |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce well it will be completely filled with cartoon characters soon |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo o hey cool. you participating ? |
15:34 |
bounce |
yeah probably a slander on the muppets. sorry jim! |
15:35 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: No, just figured a writeup fits Qntra's demographic. |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly. |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone from b-a gets in there im buyin' you a beer. |
15:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Thanks, I just wanted to link to a relevant past challenge in the writeup http://www.underhanded-c.org/_page_id_16.html |
15:36 |
assbot |
The Underhanded C Contest » 2007 |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman: this thing got so many threads and subprocesses, I wonder what new and exciting breakage tomorrow will bring |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
spoken like a true admin! |
15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman is it stable nao ? i was planning to do a trilema write-up, is it time ? |
15:43 |
punkman |
maybe give it a few days |
15:43 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: there will be qntra writeup soon |
15:43 |
thestringpuller |
too* |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-qntra/ ? |
15:44 |
assbot |
Introducing the qntra pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
15:46 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: qntra writeup about punkbot |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ah, talk to these other guys. |
15:47 |
thestringpuller |
i kno. it's on editor's desk now. just letting you know. ;) |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
ah cool. |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i didn't get it originally :) good for you. |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves: maybe swol can sell it? <<< it definitely can. it's been publicly announced it closes, someone wants to make an offer they know where to make it. |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla: idk whats up with buttcoins users but my take is that btcusd chumpatroning takes 90%+ of the cake in 'services' category << just about right. |
15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
joecool: what is this? is there documentation on it yet? <<< you mean the deedbot ? |
15:51 |
joecool |
mircea_popescu: yes |
15:52 |
joecool |
i had been absent from here for a month or two, it is new |
15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
ah, its a deed registrar we've been trying to get going since summer. finally punkman made it work. |
15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
if you look through the logs the spec is a pastebin plastered like a dozen diff places. |
15:53 |
nubbins` |
^ text of gpg-signed deed is used as passphrase for brainwallet, address of which is funded with pittance to prove document's existence at a particular point in time |
15:53 |
joecool |
oh so it has a reference in the blockchain too? |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: punkman i have nfi. like i said, i get different results when i do curl -o vs curl | pbcopy << this sounds like os/x |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
joecool yes. |
15:53 |
joecool |
pretty cool |
15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
totally. |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: *sigh* if s.wol paid out dividends and then immediately vanished, it would be so much easier <<< that's how it will work ? |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu funny thing is, pbcopy is the only osx-specific tool, and it's the only one that preserves \n line endings |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
cause it knows it should see ? |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
all the unix stuff is "eh, whatevs" |
15:56 |
thestringpuller |
pbcopy is really annoying |
15:56 |
thestringpuller |
got a mac recently...and yea |
15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla: fuck you to anyone who mentions rss again. <<< awww angry kako!!! of WRATH! |
15:56 |
nubbins` |
thestringpuller ehh it does what it should |
15:56 |
nubbins` |
joecool here's an example |
15:57 |
nubbins` |
http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 |
15:57 |
assbot |
Deed AF1zMmjk | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
15:57 |
nubbins` |
if you sha256sum the text of that deed, you'll get AF1zMmjkgvSVLM5dmTZH3hqndeHpG1KukwYahkhcSsj6 as a result |
15:58 |
nubbins` |
that ^ is then used as a brainwallet passphrase to get the public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF and its associated private key |
15:58 |
nubbins` |
next, that address is funded: https://blockchain.info/address/14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF |
15:58 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF |
15:58 |
nubbins` |
thereby proving the document's existence at the time of funding. |
15:58 |
nubbins` |
deeds 101 |
15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla: >Perhaps the most common brand is Predictious. It takes pride as the premier Bitcoin prediction market that requires bettors to sign in using a Google account. <<< ahahahaha bejesus. |
15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
then again i shouldn't laugh, the aborigines also took pride in smearing shit all over their faces or w/e it is they did, when the bitcoin colonists found them. |
16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!t m s.qntr |
16:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC), 30D: 0.00013514 / 0.00013638 / 0.00014 (3911 shares, 0.53 BTC) |
16:00 |
mod6 |
.deedbot http://therealbitcoin.com/charter-B71EADAF.asc |
16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe check that out, trading! |
16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you got an addy for trasurer for bitcoin foundation published yet ? or how's that thing coming along ? |
16:01 |
mod6 |
.deed http://therealbitcoin.com/charter-B71EADAF.asc |
16:01 |
punkbot |
mod6: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
16:02 |
nubbins` |
use the genesis deed address for donations 8) |
16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
16:02 |
nubbins` |
meantime, my 0-fee tx finally made it thru |
16:02 |
nubbins` |
https://blockchain.info/address/149LB8VYaT1BdMLyQUL92Kj6KrJfNwcp64 |
16:02 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 149LB8VYaT1BdMLyQUL92Kj6KrJfNwcp64 |
16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
tbh, punkman made a major innovation with the bot. that it responds when you call it, like |
16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
punkbot deed baby |
16:02 |
punkbot |
mircea_popescu: Error: 'baby' is not a valid http url. |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
this is pretty fucking great, because the special char space was getting crowded |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i think this should be the standard bot calling procedure. say its name. |
16:03 |
nubbins` |
;;it !sure ,,was |
16:03 |
gribble |
Error: "it" is not a valid command. |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot t m s.qntr |
16:03 |
nubbins` |
gribble ticker |
16:03 |
kakobrekla |
%no *it #wasnt |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla omg whay the haet! |
16:03 |
nubbins` |
kako haetmoad OFF |
16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, it's gonna be the standard going forward. |
16:04 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: on it |
16:04 |
kakobrekla |
its a good thing we can have as many standards as we need |
16:04 |
bounce |
fifteen |
16:04 |
nubbins` |
so many standards, so few substandards |
16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
16:05 |
nubbins` |
perhaps we'll call this the superstandard, yes? set it apart a bit? |
16:05 |
davout |
nubbins`: just call it microsoft |
16:05 |
kakobrekla |
my standard is a standard one, you can use whatever. |
16:05 |
nubbins` |
i support the standard standards |
16:06 |
nubbins` |
on a go-forward basis |
16:06 |
mike_c |
as a consumer of kako's standards, I can vouch they are anything but standard |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
my standards just got for-pay model. |
16:06 |
nubbins` |
erm, is that standard? |
16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
!Contre nous de la tyrannie l'étendard sanglant est levé! |
16:06 |
kakobrekla |
it is now. |
16:06 |
mike_c |
but they work, which is also not standard. |
16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Zebetus |
16:07 |
kakobrekla |
mike_c idk i make em up on spot :| |
16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
so they're more like spotdards ? |
16:07 |
kakobrekla |
well they are standard for me |
16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
try making them on the stan next time. |
16:08 |
kakobrekla |
so you can call em potato |
16:08 |
kakobrekla |
standard potato |
16:08 |
kakobrekla |
nice round n shit. |
16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
like a tomato. |
16:11 |
Azelphur |
mircea_popescu: haha, I see you upped a friend of mine :) |
16:11 |
bounce |
my, isn't that nice. google slowly breaking stuff in browsers to push their own craptastic contraption with copious user friendlyness and vendor lock-in sauce |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ool. |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce strategy! |
16:13 |
* |
bounce is using pre-webkit opera now. not too happy everything is going webkit, just with shittier and shittier user interfaces wrapped around it. |
16:13 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1MXeLHi5 |
16:14 |
nubbins` |
bounce ever try the w3c browser |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce makes two of us. |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
on both scores. |
16:14 |
nubbins` |
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ |
16:14 |
assbot |
Amaya Home Page |
16:15 |
kakobrekla |
presto sux though. |
16:15 |
bounce |
years and years ago, and it didn't impress me with the w3c |
16:15 |
BingoBoingo |
from thestringpuller http://qntra.net/2014/11/new-bitcoin-deed-system-launches/ |
16:15 |
assbot |
New Bitcoin Deed System Launches | Qntra.net |
16:16 |
jurov |
13EVfGFm2MYM8rFfz5n2pzJh6AznEh8126 will do? |
16:16 |
bounce |
how many man-years would it cost to come up with a decent web rendering engine these days? |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
bout two. |
16:17 |
mike_c |
new qntra share model: word_count - (footnotes * 100) |
16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
and ima bbl! |
16:17 |
bounce |
that sounds low |
16:17 |
mike_c |
news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. |
16:18 |
kakobrekla |
its not news |
16:18 |
kakobrekla |
its views and cumentary |
16:19 |
kakobrekla |
but i agree on big footnotes being big |
16:19 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/328QWJ8.txt ) |
16:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
16:20 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while |
16:20 |
kakobrekla |
especially when you explain with 4 words taking up 2 lines space |
16:21 |
kakobrekla |
but i can see it, mp having big cultural influence in this cult, weird bitbet doesnt have footnotes (yet) |
16:22 |
kakobrekla |
also has anyone ever done headnotes? |
16:22 |
kakobrekla |
maybe something like -3. this site is not for stupid, -2. .... |
16:22 |
mike_c |
hehe |
16:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!b4 |
16:30 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/ |
16:30 |
assbot |
Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Crypto Challenge For The Telegram Developers |
16:31 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 1MXeLHi5CRAAkeoJqxFRzBwgMjg7LrLxsA | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1MXeLHi5 |
16:31 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes: 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 |
16:43 |
nubbins` |
jurov now gpg sign dat shit |
16:43 |
nubbins` |
http://therealbitcoin.org/treasurer_contract.html |
16:43 |
nubbins` |
and deed it up! |
16:45 |
jurov |
with the blablablas? |
16:46 |
nubbins` |
preferably replace the blablas with something that at least passes checksum |
16:46 |
PeterL |
!up scoopbot |
16:49 |
jurov |
the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there? |
16:50 |
PeterL |
is kakobrekla here? |
16:52 |
kakobrekla |
yea |
16:54 |
PeterL |
so scoopbot is ready (penguirker replacement), I suppose I need to talk to you about registering him in the chan? |
16:56 |
punkman |
PeterL: did you use irker too? |
16:56 |
PeterL |
no, it is a bot I made myself |
16:57 |
kakobrekla |
but does it work? |
16:57 |
PeterL |
yes |
16:57 |
kakobrekla |
is the syntax such that my great ass suggested? |
16:57 |
kakobrekla |
s/that/as |
16:58 |
PeterL |
huh? |
16:58 |
kakobrekla |
!s if you are going to do it |
16:58 |
assbot |
10 results for 'if you are going to do it' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=if+you+are+going+to+do+it |
16:59 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#882883 |
16:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 19-10-2014 02:27:17; kakobrekla: PeterL if you are going to do it, make the syntax 'New blog post on $sitename by $author: $url" |
16:59 |
PeterL |
oh, that. right now it is "new blog post on $sitename: $url" |
17:00 |
kakobrekla |
add the author? |
17:02 |
PeterL |
ok, I will do that now |
17:02 |
kakobrekla |
great |
17:03 |
kakobrekla |
once this works and if you are bored, add wordcount at the end of report and estimated reading time |
17:04 |
bounce |
ugh. |
17:04 |
kakobrekla |
wha? |
17:04 |
* |
bounce was about to say something about making the notice shorter, but estimated reading time? ew! |
17:04 |
kakobrekla |
yeah |
17:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00073187 = 12.8809 BTC [-] {2} |
17:05 |
kakobrekla |
easier to make the call - click or not to click |
17:05 |
mike_c |
plus # of footnotes |
17:05 |
bounce |
no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. |
17:06 |
kakobrekla |
maybe |
17:06 |
kakobrekla |
on the other hand would work for qntra |
17:06 |
kakobrekla |
reading @ easy difficulty |
17:07 |
bounce |
so youse gots a difficulty estimator @ qntra? |
17:07 |
PeterL |
ok, now scoopbot should include the author. |
17:08 |
PeterL |
!up scoopbot |
17:08 |
kakobrekla |
but anyway a simplistic approach : estimate reading time by multiplying the word count by result of brainwallet test |
17:09 |
jurov |
;;isup deeds.bitcoin-assets.com |
17:09 |
gribble |
deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is up |
17:10 |
bounce |
author, wordcount, footnote count would give some indication to make your own estimation |
17:10 |
kakobrekla |
whats footnote measure? |
17:10 |
kakobrekla |
nothing. |
17:10 |
mike_c |
reading time |
17:10 |
kakobrekla |
maybe the cultness of the article |
17:10 |
bounce |
if you don't want to hear the answer, you might as well not ask the question. |
17:10 |
PeterL |
would I be able to tell where the footnotes start from the blob of text in the rss feed? |
17:11 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
17:11 |
jurov |
is up but sloooow |
17:11 |
kakobrekla |
PeterL we just masturbating here |
17:11 |
PeterL |
my next task is to rework all scoopbot's commands to respond to his name |
17:11 |
bounce |
the entire article ends up in the rss feed? |
17:12 |
PeterL |
depends on the feed, I think? |
17:12 |
kakobrekla |
who knows, its rss |
17:12 |
bounce |
footnotes are a major break in reading flow, so they're quite influential for the overall reading user experience and therefore the total amount of time the user gets to waste going back and forth |
17:13 |
bounce |
to answer your |
17:13 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, we are measuring reading time, not comprehension time |
17:13 |
bounce |
question you didn't want answered |
17:13 |
kakobrekla |
if i give you 300 pages of easy text, you can not read it in 1 minutes |
17:13 |
kakobrekla |
no matter how easy it is |
17:13 |
bounce |
you're not measuring anything, you're making vague estimates on unsound assumptions |
17:14 |
PinkPosixPXE |
01:27 #bitcoin-assets: <+mircea_popescu> ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE you've been awarded some s.qntr shares for your contributions to qntra as per http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ talk to jurov << Thanks for adding it to the exchange and doling out some shares, and thanks as well jurov :) |
17:14 |
assbot |
Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
17:14 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: we need some default agreement for shares that don't get claimed |
17:14 |
jurov |
i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. |
17:14 |
jurov |
and after that, shares+dividends will be delivered after 14 days of the request |
17:15 |
jurov |
er.. in 14days of the request |
17:16 |
jurov |
now, what with the treasurer stuff? i'll just sign in without the references. |
17:16 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I've been meaning to chat more on here about assisting with some of the bitcoin dev and testing work I've been watching go on, but I've been slammed with projects, I have too many projects/hobbies I'm beginning to think. Either way, I wrote up an install_bitcoin script that takes into account dependency issues for certain versoins of debian and ubuntu.. not sure if anyone would find it useful, |
17:16 |
PinkPosixPXE |
mod6 expressed interest, and I set it up after running into issues on one of my instances, and then tested it across a vagrant+virtualbox testing environment with a few debian and ubuntu distros. |
17:16 |
kakobrekla |
PinkPosixPXE ditch the bad hobbies |
17:16 |
mike_c |
sounds like a good addition to wiki.b-a |
17:17 |
kakobrekla |
wiki , yes, as stan pointed out, needs work. |
17:17 |
PinkPosixPXE |
yea, I can point out several pages where people complain about hte dependency issues, and so I thought 'well this script would fix them all' then idiots don't go using berklydb/bdb 5.3 or another versoin that isn't wallet or blockchain storage compatible |
17:17 |
punkman |
would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? |
17:18 |
punkman |
cazalla, ^ |
17:18 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Looks like we'll close on our next bank funding round this week |
17:18 |
jurov |
punkman i can create another mailing list for that |
17:18 |
PinkPosixPXE |
kakobrekla: well it's all that + full time syseng work.. so .. been trying to find time and get rid of the unimportant ones |
17:18 |
punkman |
jurov, ah yeah that might be a good way to duct-tape this together |
17:18 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Not sure if any of you are into rentalstarter... |
17:22 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate PinkPosixPXE 1 helps noobs |
17:22 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user PinkPosixPXE has changed from 1 to 1. |
17:23 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ty :) |
17:23 |
kakobrekla |
its true |
17:23 |
mike_c |
!t h rent |
17:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00450000 / 0.00456986 / 0.00490800 (482 shares, 2.20267263 BTC), 7D: 0.00412527 / 0.00465236 / 0.00490998 (1567 shares, 7.29024029 BTC), 30D: 0.00400000 / 0.00451531 / 0.00509996 (4875 shares, 22.01212200 BTC) |
17:24 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I can also help you guys figure out the gpg git key signing if that's still a debacle or issue for you, but I'll have to ask more questions, and find out the scope/desires first, before we could dive into that. But I'm happy to help throw my extra cpu cycles at this stuff :) |
17:25 |
jurov |
PinkPosixPXE: current status is: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev , no git at all |
17:26 |
kakobrekla |
PinkPosixPXE were you actually following the debate? |
17:27 |
fivezerotwo |
hello everyone, its been a while |
17:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
thanks jurov, perfect.. wanted to see where things were at.. |
17:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
kakobrekla: I followed much of it for the past few weeks |
17:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
the idscussions around the patches, and testing, bitcoin foundation, git signing, etc. |
17:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
discussions* |
17:28 |
PinkPosixPXE |
but the last week has been really busy |
17:29 |
kakobrekla |
well color me surprised then. |
17:29 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I was going to speak up sooner, but I didn't want to commit/promise anything, when I was so busy |
17:29 |
PinkPosixPXE |
so I just kept watching the discussions, and kept up with what was going on |
17:30 |
PeterL |
!up scoopbot |
17:31 |
kakobrekla |
PeterL is that thing registered with nickserv? |
17:31 |
jurov |
punkbot, deed https://coinbr.com/foundation.txt.asc |
17:31 |
punkbot |
jurov: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
17:31 |
PeterL |
yes |
17:31 |
mike_c |
;;ident scoopbot |
17:31 |
gribble |
Nick 'scoopbot', with hostmask 'scoopbot!~scoopbot@cphost02.qhoster.net', is not identified. |
17:32 |
PeterL |
do I need to make a grible ident for it? |
17:32 |
kakobrekla |
no |
17:32 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate ninjashogun -3 UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable Can't find right IRC window |
17:32 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ninjashogun has changed from -3 to -3. |
17:32 |
bounce |
a nickserv account would be decent, though |
17:32 |
bounce |
as in, with a cloak saying to bug you if it misbehaves |
17:33 |
PeterL |
oh, how do I do that? |
17:33 |
kakobrekla |
PeterL get a cloak in #freenode |
17:33 |
punkman |
you need to group a second nick for it first |
17:34 |
PeterL |
so the bot should be logged in under my account? |
17:34 |
punkman |
no I mean to get a cloak, you need to have an alternate nick grouped in the account |
17:34 |
* |
bounce would make a separate account, but dunno what freenode wants |
17:35 |
kakobrekla |
lol cs |
17:35 |
PeterL |
oh, a second nick grouped to scoopbot? |
17:35 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, should be voiced on join |
17:35 |
mike_c |
https://freenode.net/faq.shtml - see "what is the recommended way to set up my irc nickname" #5 & #6 |
17:35 |
assbot |
freenode: frequently-asked questions |
17:35 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Right now we have about .015btc/share in equity, stock price is well under that though |
17:35 |
kakobrekla |
if i got the command right anyway |
17:36 |
mike_c |
The20YearIRCloud: any more ipos coming up? |
17:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Nope |
17:36 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/american-malls-converted-to-data-centres/ |
17:36 |
assbot |
American Malls Converted To Data Centres | Qntra.net |
17:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Absolutely no need for em |
17:37 |
mike_c |
;;calc (0.000031 * 12) / 0.015 |
17:37 |
gribble |
0.0248 |
17:38 |
mike_c |
is the company building up cash or paying out most free cash flow in divs? |
17:38 |
The20YearIRCloud |
RIght now we're looking at changing the div pay to reflect higher re-investment in the company |
17:39 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Especially since the banks right now are offering us 1:5 leverage for each dollar we put into the loans, and that's pretty hard to refuse. |
17:39 |
mike_c |
so lowering divs and building up equity |
17:39 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Divs won't actually go down, they just won't go up |
17:39 |
The20YearIRCloud |
While equity will increase significantly more |
17:40 |
The20YearIRCloud |
I'm looking by end of year under current system to be paying out around 10-14btc/month in dividends if we don't change the setup. Our last month's payment was something like 5btc |
17:40 |
mike_c |
cool. well if you're not issuing more shares who cares what the price is |
17:40 |
The20YearIRCloud |
I personally don't, it lets me buy more shares. However I know we have some that want to see high dividends |
17:41 |
mike_c |
well lucky for you they aren't voting shares |
17:41 |
The20YearIRCloud |
and a mix of high share price & dividend price shows more of a proof-of-concept to investors |
17:41 |
fivezerotwo |
So we expanded our layer 4 attacking power. Qntra/Trilema, therealbitcoin, bitbet, bitcoin-assets.com... take your pick! |
17:41 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Even if they were voting shares it wouldn't change much. Our top 3 shareholders whom account for something like 60% of share ownership are all on the board and agree with where we're headed |
17:42 |
fivezerotwo |
PinkPosi4PXE, Its stupid to reconnect without a cloak |
17:42 |
mike_c |
great, so keep plugging? you're profitable and don't need more investment. sounds good to me. |
17:42 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Pretty much |
17:42 |
mike_c |
congrats. |
17:42 |
The20YearIRCloud |
The bank's telling us we should be able to loan a little under $1mm with our current margins |
17:42 |
nubbins` |
<+jurov> the REFERENCES can't be replaced by definition.. why they must be there? <<< heh |
17:43 |
mike_c |
biggest risk to your business now is probably being associated with havelock. |
17:43 |
The20YearIRCloud |
And our margins are *quite* healthy considering industry averages |
17:43 |
cazalla |
fivezerotwo, you never got back to me |
17:43 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Yep |
17:43 |
fivezerotwo |
cazalla, oh yeah |
17:43 |
nubbins` |
jurov in fact, that REFERENCE should be amended to point to the foundation charter. |
17:43 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB |
17:43 |
The20YearIRCloud |
I wouldn't be surprised to see the BOA want to move away in the next year |
17:43 |
jurov |
^ too late |
17:44 |
mike_c |
that would be smart. |
17:44 |
jurov |
ben_vulpes this deed^ |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
ah for shame, was just about to post the details in question |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/J74EmoXm5mggdfGwAWvFCx4Z9KWycj3jeeLthijXAvY |
17:44 |
assbot |
Deed J74EmoXm | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
17:45 |
The20YearIRCloud |
But, for the time being that's where we are, it's working for us (kind of). |
17:45 |
nubbins` |
now there's a [R.1] in the doc w/ no reference below :S |
17:45 |
mike_c |
yeah, it works right up until it doesn't. |
17:46 |
nubbins` |
[R.1] As established in The Bitcoin Public Record, Deed ID 9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj, |
17:46 |
nubbins` |
Bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 confirmed in block BLOCKHEIGHT with transaction ID db155b101580cf08c366f6016abe3310a1122f7f67f7303878a7254e854e2689. |
17:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Arbeit Macht Frei http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/03/_work_sets_you_free_sign_stolen_dachau_memorial_robbed.html |
17:47 |
assbot |
"Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. |
17:47 |
punkman |
hah |
17:48 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 12CJHNrBGLNxLaYbX9NH2tnU1JAeXxByZ6 | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/12CJHNrB |
17:50 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/ |
17:50 |
assbot |
New Bitcoin Deed System Launches : Bitcoin |
17:51 |
fivezerotwo |
upvote this please :) |
17:51 |
punkman |
ddos incoming? |
17:52 |
fivezerotwo |
punkman, yeah, getting PinkPosixPXE's AWS account suspended first, then moving to assets sites |
17:52 |
punkman |
well this particular one won't take much |
17:52 |
punkman |
could probably refresh really fast in your browser |
17:52 |
fivezerotwo |
have fun, i'll see you soon :D |
17:52 |
The20YearIRCloud |
I'm having fun with the company though, one day a month I get to feel what it's like to walk around like a drug dealer with $3k-$4k cash in my pocket. |
17:53 |
cazalla |
fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol http://pastebin.com/zYgMgPhU |
17:53 |
assbot |
<fivezerotwo> i haz vry p0wrful LOIC cannonz <fivezerotwo> 15mpps <cazalla> i - Pastebin.com |
17:53 |
kakobrekla |
"hey pssst got anything on ya??" "nothing but some apartment dust." |
17:54 |
kakobrekla |
is it not funny? |
17:54 |
kakobrekla |
too dry? |
17:54 |
* |
kakobrekla puts more water on the thing. |
17:55 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: See, that's useful. Wet Apartment dust === Spackle |
17:57 |
The20YearIRCloud |
That's about it |
17:57 |
The20YearIRCloud |
"hey, got any bedbugs?" |
18:03 |
punkman |
<fivezerotwo> 15mpps << wait, all this trouble from 15mbits? |
18:04 |
kakobrekla |
its packets per second |
18:04 |
kakobrekla |
also dick millimeters |
18:04 |
kakobrekla |
same thing |
18:04 |
BingoBoingo |
millipenises? |
18:05 |
punkman |
well better post any deeds before it explodes |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
imagine paying someone to stop a ddos |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
my sides |
18:25 |
jurov |
could only get funnier if he hasked to put the ransom note into a deed |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
heh |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
punkman fwiw: |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
<@gmaxwell> nubbins`: Change the hash to get rid of the crazy base58 (pita to implement) in the inner loop and make it a merkle tree so the proof can be compact even with many things commited. And instead of using a private key, use a pay-to-contract https://github.com/Blockstream/contracthashtool |
18:26 |
assbot |
Blockstream/contracthashtool · GitHub |
18:28 |
cazalla |
punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? <<< it's an idea but i think we keep process as is atm |
18:30 |
PeterL |
ben_vulpes: you run cascadianhacker.com? |
18:31 |
punkman |
nubbins`: lol base58 is the pita to implement |
18:32 |
punkman |
but good point about merkle tree |
18:36 |
PinkPosixPXE |
that was entertaining |
18:36 |
PinkPosixPXE |
what a jackass.. with his leet .NET framework skillz |
18:37 |
kakobrekla |
allow me to recommend you a cloak. |
18:37 |
PinkPosixPXE |
yea, im already setting one up.. I can flip my ip as often as I like, but I'm setting up ipv6 cloaking |
18:38 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I also spoke to amazon just in case .. his 'ddos' was pretty weak |
18:38 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
18:40 |
nubbins` |
i bet it was like 1% of xmas traffic ;/ |
18:41 |
nubbins` |
PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D |
18:43 |
PinkPosixPXE |
hehe |
18:45 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I'm actually in the process of migrating off aws to my beefier vps' with ddos mitigation and the works, but just hadn't done so yet.. didn't know mr. micro penis police was going to decide to pull my pigtails while he sits in his mothers basement.. |
18:45 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I didn't get a calendar invite from him.. ;) |
18:46 |
kakobrekla |
yes, lets irc get 10gbps lines for our ircing needs |
18:46 |
kakobrekla |
-irc |
18:49 |
nubbins` |
but how will we generate deeds locally and fund the addresses ourselves if deeds.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
18:49 |
nubbins` |
by using the available tools?! |
18:50 |
kakobrekla |
paper and pen? |
18:50 |
nubbins` |
it's as if there's no stopping us ;0 |
18:51 |
jurov |
maybe using asciilifeform's blockchain telegraph? |
18:51 |
nubbins` |
blockchain ham |
18:52 |
PinkPosixPXE |
hehe these vps' are for a few other projects as well, but will also meet my irc needs |
18:53 |
kakobrekla |
jurov another boxen is cheaper than that :) |
19:00 |
ben_vulpes |
PeterL: oui c'est moi |
19:00 |
PeterL |
does it have a rss feed? |
19:10 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ok, time to finish up some work/be productive, and have some delightful Pho for dinner! |
19:15 |
kakobrekla |
you live in the nam? |
19:17 |
PinkPosixPXE |
hehe nah, I just buy food from the nam's restaurant.. the good ones |
19:19 |
PinkPosixPXE |
nom 'nam |
19:21 |
ben_vulpes |
PeterL: i made one at one point, but it's fallen over since. |
19:22 |
PeterL |
aha, let me know if you get a feed working so I can add it to the bot's list |
19:32 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate fivezerotwo -1 >I wanna see if trust list notifications work correctly (next one in a couple of hours) |
19:32 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded. |
19:34 |
scoopbot |
New post on BTC Scoop by peter: http://blog.btcscoop.com/introducing-the-scoopbot/ |
19:36 |
kakobrekla |
it werks |
19:36 |
kakobrekla |
drinks for everyone! |
19:36 |
PeterL |
when I tried to add author i borked it, but now it works again |
19:37 |
kakobrekla |
you cant really claim that |
19:37 |
BingoBoingo |
scoopbot request n00dz |
19:38 |
kakobrekla |
> http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2014#905173 |
19:38 |
assbot |
Logged on 31-10-2014 04:09:06; kakobrekla: there is only non working code atm so stfu. |
19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
ahhh that was the best salmon in soffran sauce i ever had. |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh another "if massive mining power, then this had probably been discussed to death before" attack http://bramcohen.com/2014/11/03/an-attack-on-the-timestamp-semantics-of-bitcoin |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, actually, the timestamping is known to be weak. |
19:43 |
kakobrekla |
soffran ? saffron? |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
saffron yea |
19:43 |
kakobrekla |
that thing is poison. |
19:44 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c: news flash: news doesn't have footnotes. << i dunno, maybe i'm nuts but imo the current solution to the problem of illiterare population (dumb down the news) is maybe not the best. putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ? |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla isn't that if you eat thr wrong part ? |
19:46 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: mircea_popescu: or i can generate something like 1BTCFund but it 'll take a while <<< eeentirely up to you. |
19:47 |
PeterL |
news doesn't have footnotes because they have not adapted to using the technology yet |
19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
and totally bitbet needs moar footnotes :D |
19:47 |
PeterL |
they are still stuck trying to make their websites look like a paper newspaper |
19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
19:47 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu afaik no. but you need 10 grams to take you out. |
19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
and breaking all the fucking browsers as a result. |
19:48 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla seeing how i didn't pay like 10k for the sauce alone, i somehow doubt there was enough in there then |
19:48 |
kakobrekla |
lucky for us it has a strong taste so you dont need much of it. |
19:48 |
kakobrekla |
less than half a gram for a persons meal +- |
19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman Sorry, the requested URL 'http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5%00bundle' caused an error: Not found: '/raw_bundles/1M/1MXeLHi5\x00bundle' |
19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i just clicked a link! |
19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
0x1) CLAUSES 0x0] INTRODUCTION ; RESPONSIBILITIES => ) ==== ] |
19:51 |
punkman |
where was that link? |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
Download bundle: JSON | Raw << raw part |
19:52 |
punkman |
oic |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce: no, it's complete bs. reading time does not depend on wordcount alone. or even taking word length into consideration. <<< seriously guise, this "reading time" thing is poppy. |
19:53 |
asciilifeform |
putting footnotes in there so even the clueless can follow may work ? << lol! what next, footnotes for linux kernel so illiterates can understand? bitcoind? lev landau's 'mechanics' ? |
19:54 |
kakobrekla |
ftr im against against. |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce: footnotes are a major break in reading flow [...] <<< here's a tip&trick : hover pointer over footnote mark, there's a tooltip that loads it. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform sure. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
it'd be better than the current pretense of "we invented a new, easier one!" |
19:55 |
kakobrekla |
nobody notices kakos headnotes. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
"it doesn't work, and it's pretty stupid, but at least you know, ux!" |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla heads too big, hard to notice. |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
what would, e.g., herr landau, have accomplished, if he had to occupy himself with teaching arithmetic. |
19:56 |
cazalla |
fwiw, i don't think the kakobrekla's and asciilifeform's of this world are the target audience for Qntra |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
cazalla: who, if it isn't a deep secret, is? |
19:56 |
kakobrekla |
fine ill go back to coindesk. |
19:56 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: kakobrekla is the audience for everything |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: i propose if they don't get claimed in 14 days, then they get loaned to coinbr. <<< i think that's how brokers work anyway, minus the 14 days |
19:57 |
* |
asciilifeform a believer in 'last psychiatrist's theorem' - 'if yer reading it, it's for you' |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not landau. later contributors can footnote it. |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
qntra doesn't make the news, it just footnotes it! |
19:58 |
cazalla |
although maybe BingoBoingo's articles have more appeal to the sophisticated Qntra reader |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
qntra, american malls converting to data centers << obligatory >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/07/dead-souls.html |
19:59 |
* |
BingoBoingo thinks this is prolly the most qntra piece so far. http://qntra.net/2014/10/matonis-to-resign-from-vessenes-bitcoin-foundation/ |
19:59 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman: would qntra like to sponsor a WP plugin that accepts signed posts and puts them in editor's queue? << it's not a bad idea on the face but the truth is that the pipeline is too finnicky and too dependent on handwork for it to be useful. yet. |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
signed posts << incidentally, this - plus a dose of wot - is the final thermonuclear pill against spam. |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
call it 'ninjashotgun.' |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it seems to be working fine yes. |
20:02 |
punkman |
also good idea for solo blog and comments |
20:02 |
punkman |
so you can post with logging in or such |
20:02 |
punkman |
*without |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
screw logging in. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
what's wrong with "you can just post" |
20:03 |
asciilifeform |
box (or mail gate) that swallows signed ascii text. a la turdatron. |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: "Work sets you free" sign stolen: Dachau memorial robbed. <<< that thing gets stolen periodically. |
20:04 |
kakobrekla |
poppy.< i dunno if poppy is good or bad (imma guess bad) but the diff between word count and reading time is the diff between 'df' and df -h' |
20:05 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders about the value of the pinched sign on the artcoin market |
20:05 |
mircea_popescu |
poppycock, ie, bad |
20:05 |
kakobrekla |
yes totally bad to put it human companionable form |
20:05 |
kakobrekla |
sux beyond vacuum |
20:06 |
kakobrekla |
jesus autofail |
20:06 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: fivezerotwo wants 2 btc to stop lol <<< guy sounds a lot more like, he'd want to start above the grunt level, doesn't know how to ask but figures (correctly) that no matter how he'd ask he won't get it. |
20:06 |
kakobrekla |
comprehendable is what i meant? |
20:06 |
mircea_popescu |
comprehensible. |
20:07 |
kakobrekla |
see |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
like reprehensible, but with cunt instead of raep. |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
so reading this log, is trilema down or what. |
20:08 |
mike_c |
not down for me. |
20:08 |
kakobrekla |
no, bitbet is. |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxz8P7JA_Zo << re: 2btc |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: <@gmaxwell> nubbins`: blabla <<< how about we each do our part to keep idiocy cointained in -otc -dev and wherever else. |
20:09 |
kakobrekla |
my domain name slave is sleeping unfortunately |
20:09 |
kakobrekla |
and while i could call him up, eh. |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the rush. |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`: PinkPosixPXE don't knock .net, where else can you combine c-style code with visual basic in the same executable? :D <<< os/x ? |
20:11 |
punkman |
re: merkle tree - maybe in the future where we have 100 deeds per bundle, but it's already a hash tree so... |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
'We never pay any-one Dane-geld / No matter how trifling the cost; / For the end of that game is oppression and shame, / And the nation that pays it is lost!"' |
20:11 |
* |
punkman blows raspberry |
20:11 |
kakobrekla |
;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com |
20:11 |
gribble |
log.bitcoin-assets.com is up |
20:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128200 @ 0.00073227 = 93.877 BTC [+] {8} |
20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman fatswell is an expert at the wikigame. how to say words that appear like they have substance. |
20:15 |
ben_vulpes |
punkbot: status |
20:15 |
punkbot |
ben_vulpes: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 31 minutes ago |
20:15 |
ben_vulpes |
punkbot: balance |
20:15 |
punkbot |
ben_vulpes: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.0146 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 132 more bundles. |
20:15 |
joecool |
!ping |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
scoopbot hello |
20:16 |
artifexd |
<kakobrekla> yes, someone requested to make a custom rss feed for []bot only for it not to be used << It will be. Just... not yet. |
20:17 |
kakobrekla |
oki |
20:19 |
asciilifeform |
https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 << mega-lol. |
20:19 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 |
20:20 |
* |
asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. |
20:24 |
ben_vulpes |
!up foo_nugget |
20:24 |
ben_vulpes |
punkbot: help |
20:24 |
punkbot |
ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands. |
20:24 |
ben_vulpes |
punkbot: list |
20:24 |
ben_vulpes |
... |
20:25 |
punkman |
punkbot list deedsystem |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
* asciilifeform not surprised, expected precisely this. << wouldja give a man a moment ? i gotta answer comments and whatnot! |
20:39 |
asciilifeform |
lulzies |
20:43 |
punkbot |
[trust-update] | removed: fivezerotwo |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
!s from:nubbins` pastebin.com |
20:43 |
assbot |
14 results for 'from:nubbins` pastebin.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Anubbins%60+pastebin.com |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#509702 |
20:44 |
assbot |
Logged on 17-02-2014 00:11:53; asciilifeform: "came to drakula two catholic monks, from the hungarian lands, pittances to collect. he ordered them brought apart, and called up one, pointed to the yard, where one could see many sat upon stakes, or on wheels broken. he did ask: 'was i just? and who are these people, sitting on stakes?' answered the monk, 'no, lord, you do evil, killing without mercy; a lord must be merciful. and those sat upon the |
20:44 |
asciilifeform |
^ re: fl4m3w4r in mircea_popescu's comments |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you got a pointer to where you and nubbins` cut the book deal ? |
20:46 |
PinkPosixPXE |
more fivezerotwo garbage > http://dpaste.com/1QE0QRB |
20:46 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1QE0QRB: fivezerotwo 2014-11-03, by PinkPosixPXE |
20:46 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: url bug fixed, and there's the trust-list notification |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
search is being unfriendly. |
20:46 |
PinkPosixPXE |
essentially the same crap |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
punkbot loveya. |
20:46 |
PinkPosixPXE |
that was from earlier, but same as the threats you guys are getting, just threw it out there |
20:46 |
PinkPosixPXE |
ok Pho, bbl! |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
enjoe. |
20:48 |
kakobrekla |
15:31 <fivezerotwo> these people have a world view that 99% of the populance are dumb morons < its not my fault :( |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
99% of the populace actually are dumb morons. |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it' |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
s not a worldview. |
20:53 |
punkman |
kakobrekla: I have a gift for you |
20:53 |
punkman |
http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/kakobrekla/rss |
20:53 |
assbot |
deeds signed by kakobrekla |
20:53 |
kakobrekla |
nowai, mp takes those away from me |
20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
who will step forward to claim responsibility for taking the deed faucet booty? |
20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
has someone, and i failed to notice? |
20:58 |
PeterL |
I'm waiting for a bunch to be out there and then I am going to take them all at once |
20:59 |
punkman |
http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/from/nubbins%60 even nubbins` url works, success! |
20:59 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets deed registry |
20:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe fivezerotwo waits a few years and he can scrape his ransom out of the deedbot bin? |
20:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48500 @ 0.00073039 = 35.4239 BTC [-] {2} |
21:00 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman: what's the story with deed titles? |
21:00 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7by9/new_bitcoin_deed_system_launches/cls7erz << someone missed the point |
21:00 |
assbot |
majorpaynei86 comments on New Bitcoin Deed System Launches |
21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
https://blockchain.info/address/1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP |
21:01 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1D4kG2YPA6WHnkVs57VJXsRkpEF2TNB6zP |
21:01 |
punkman |
ben_vulpes, just add Deed_title: bla bla on a line |
21:01 |
punkman |
maybe I make that just Title: ? |
21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
"recordation" |
21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
yeeeeah |
21:02 |
ben_vulpes |
seems superfluous to me |
21:02 |
ben_vulpes |
plus, imposing a structure on deeds is questionable |
21:02 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman: ^^ |
21:02 |
* |
ben_vulpes goes back to permutating an api that the clients didn't want to document |
21:02 |
punkman |
someone asked for it at some point |
21:03 |
ben_vulpes |
my favorite part of software is telling clients "no". |
21:03 |
ben_vulpes |
for some reason saying no is harder in -assets. |
21:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16695 @ 0.0007295 = 12.179 BTC [-] |
21:04 |
PeterL |
what happens if the document has more than one line with Title: on it? |
21:05 |
punkman |
PeterL: uses first match |
21:07 |
kakobrekla |
bitbet is on the new boxen. if there is an emergency you can edit your hosts or wait couple of hours. |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/ |
21:07 |
assbot |
The Bitcoin Foundation finally incorporated! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
21:08 |
ben_vulpes |
throw parseError("Don't fuck with me, assets") |
21:09 |
ben_vulpes |
good god mircea_popescu |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
hm ? |
21:09 |
ben_vulpes |
don't *do* that |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
what! |
21:09 |
* |
kakobrekla knew thats gonna happen |
21:09 |
punkman |
deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj << urovj , that deed hash |
21:10 |
ben_vulpes |
https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 |
21:10 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 |
21:10 |
* |
kakobrekla guessed the sum. |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
why not ?! |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla wd. punkman yeah lol i did a dbl take too. |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, it's fucking incredible, the guy's anagram? rly ?! but sig checked out so. |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe we call him urovj from now on in memory of it. |
21:11 |
punkman |
vanity deeds! just append nonces until you get it |
21:11 |
kakobrekla |
;;isup bitbet.us |
21:11 |
gribble |
bitbet.us is up |
21:11 |
kakobrekla |
now he stops.... |
21:11 |
kakobrekla |
meh |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't understand how the world works kakobrekla |
21:12 |
kakobrekla |
clearly nobody does anymore |
21:12 |
kakobrekla |
( i have been reading the logs) |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
!up eightyeight |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
the world is decentralised, so it no longer works! |
21:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<BingoBoingo> reddit << someone missed the point << yeah, tarddit continues to inhabit this delusion whereby what it thinks and understands matters and is important. for greater lulz! |
21:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00073087 = 24.1918 BTC [+] |
21:17 |
mike_c |
not having a reddit account helps me resist the occasional urge to educate them. |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
works for me 2. |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
meh i have put it back on the old box lol |
21:19 |
PeterL |
I never saw the appeal of reddit, it's like having all the inane comments from newspaper sites, but without the article to read |
21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? |
21:20 |
PeterL |
some do, but not anything useful as far as I've seen |
21:20 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> do newspaper sites still get comments anymore ? << Haven't seen any on the local papers recently, seems to have moved to Topix mostly, aka reddit for the poorer and stupider |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla home | log | search | bash | stats | wiki << pls to insert deeds |
21:21 |
kakobrekla |
ah on ze mirror |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
o im in a bubble ?! |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
nm then |
21:22 |
kakobrekla |
no no that thing is hardcoded |
21:22 |
kakobrekla |
waits for my manual edit |
21:22 |
kakobrekla |
hold on |
21:23 |
PeterL |
http://xkcd.com/481/ |
21:23 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/ |
21:24 |
* |
mircea_popescu tries to recall what boost supposedly did |
21:25 |
PeterL |
aha, here is the one I was actually looking for: http://xkcd.com/1385/ |
21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla listen, bitbetworks |
21:25 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, "incubate" startups like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA40yMept8c |
21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't it supposed not to work ?! wtf scam is this. |
21:25 |
kakobrekla |
yes we have a problem |
21:25 |
kakobrekla |
bitbetworks |
21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
<fivezerotwo> reddit killed digg, one of the fastest growing tech startups at that time <<< ahahhhaha o gawd. |
21:26 |
kakobrekla |
log1 fixd |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"digg decided to shoot itself in the head with web2.0, and reddit was one of the places that allowed child porn back then so here we are, hear us roar!" |
21:27 |
mthreat |
Bariloche photo of the day: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1522883_10105277724055560_3211410691125884834_o.jpg |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
all hail the b-a explorer! |
21:27 |
kakobrekla |
now dont add anymore .ba services |
21:27 |
kakobrekla |
or else imma have to recode that header |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
why not! |
21:27 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/boost-vc-close-6-6-million-in-funding/ |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
kik |
21:27 |
mthreat |
I can see why hitler came here after ww2 |
21:27 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-foundation-finally-incorporated/ |
21:28 |
mike_c |
;;rate PeterL 1 author of scoopbot |
21:28 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded. |
21:28 |
mike_c |
nice to have that back. |
21:28 |
PeterL |
is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? |
21:29 |
mike_c |
sounds good. |
21:29 |
punkman |
PeterL: name of website is a bit redundant, also might be better with irc names instead of rss authors |
21:30 |
PeterL |
right now it is pulling the author from the rss feed, to get irc nick would be a bit trickier |
21:31 |
mike_c |
hard code it. you have to maintain the list of blogs anyway |
21:31 |
PeterL |
it is also pulling the site title from the feed, it is not my fault they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
author not in rss? |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
what rss is that? |
21:32 |
punkman |
just thinking it might be silly when it eventually says "by admin" |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
like a shitty one? |
21:32 |
PeterL |
yes, author is in rss, but author in rss feed does not match irc nick |
21:32 |
kakobrekla |
mike_c hardcode not worky. point is qntra has many contributors |
21:33 |
kakobrekla |
yeah well fuck them |
21:33 |
decimation |
seems like the logs have been ddos'ed |
21:33 |
PeterL |
I guess it could get the author from the rss, then compare it against a list of irc nicks? |
21:33 |
kakobrekla |
yea looks like it decimation |
21:33 |
PeterL |
and assbot stopped saying the names of linked pages |
21:34 |
kakobrekla |
yes thats what happens under ddos |
21:34 |
mike_c |
point is qntra has many contributors << derp. oh yeah. |
21:34 |
kakobrekla |
or else someone comes here, pastes a link he controls, gets the ip from behind cloak |
21:35 |
decimation |
I wonder if usg has attempted to jail someone for possessing a private rsa key that is directly linked with extortion? |
21:35 |
punkman |
http://i.imgur.com/AXiOs9q.png < are they telling me to go elsewhere? |
21:35 |
PeterL |
have there been private rsa keys linked to extortion? |
21:35 |
cazalla |
PeterL, shots fired! |
21:36 |
kakobrekla |
punkbot sell price be their bid |
21:36 |
PeterL |
who shot what? |
21:36 |
decimation |
cazella's linked pastebin strongly implied such |
21:37 |
decimation |
although to be fair, the link to the gpg key is a bit tenuous |
21:37 |
cazalla |
PeterL, this "they don't have a more interesting name for thier blog", do you know we took almost 2 days to pick the name |
21:37 |
PeterL |
I just mean the blog name is exactly the same as the url |
21:38 |
PeterL |
even has the .net |
21:38 |
cazalla |
if this was reddit, i would down vote you right now |
21:40 |
cazalla |
seriously though, i always like how penguirker did it |
21:41 |
PeterL |
which was just the link? |
21:42 |
cazalla |
PeterL, it was like http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875299 but maybe others want more info, who knows |
21:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2014 16:28:31; penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ |
21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
hm so i was just notified by the reddit sec that there's no reddit police |
21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and the reddit fbi confirmed. |
21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i think we may have a case of http://www.watchcartoononline.com/cow-and-chicken-season-4-episode-4-mall-cop |
21:43 |
kakobrekla |
and reddit nsa denied the whole thing. |
21:43 |
cazalla |
https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k? |
21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
<PeterL> is checking every 5 minutes a good timeframe you think? << yeah. |
21:44 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> seems like the logs have been ddos'ed << i see em ? |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
<cazalla> https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net does this means qntra dropped out of 200k? << Never went under 200k yet |
21:44 |
PeterL |
so the bitcoin foundation has an address, what do they do with the donated bitcoins? |
21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: The rank is based on the last full month |
21:46 |
decimation |
;;isitdown logs.bitcoin-assets.com |
21:46 |
ben_vulpes |
PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? |
21:46 |
gribble |
logs.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
21:46 |
decimation |
;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com |
21:46 |
gribble |
log.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
21:46 |
decimation |
;;isitdown log1.bitcoin-assets.com |
21:46 |
gribble |
log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up |
21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ahok |
21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
PeterL whatever they feel like, basically. |
21:47 |
ben_vulpes |
buttcorns again, probably knowing the jackoffs involved. |
21:47 |
PeterL |
mircea_popescu: have they stated anything they feel like doing yet? |
21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i vaguely remember trying to lure testers maybe ? |
21:49 |
decimation |
so after watching Stierlitz, I surfed the wikipedia describing the NASDP government intelligence 4th department http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo "According to Canadian historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was—for the most part—made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by citizens for their information.[78] Gellately argued that it was because of |
| |
↖ |
21:49 |
decimation |
the widespread willingness of Germans to inform on each other to the Gestapo that Germany between 1933 and 1945 was a prime example of panopticism." |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
lol i like cazalla's pastebin. |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation this is factual. |
21:49 |
decimation |
so, really all you need to have a 'reign of terror' is to put a 'suggestion box' in front of the secret police office |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
all you need to have a reign of terror is to empower the bottom of the social hierarchy. it never fails. |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
be it the peasants in russia, or the derps in nazi germany, whenever the "common man" is taken from under the foot and put on the table trouble soon follows. |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the us worked just fine, and definitely better than the entire rest of the world, BEFORE extending the franchise. |
21:51 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22PXEMC.txt ) |
21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
21:51 |
decimation |
yeah, if the NASDP leadership weren't fucktards, they would have put more emphasis on actual intelligence rather than harassing idiots |
21:53 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: agreed. as I drive to work, I listen to that french revolution podcast, and they just covered the 'housewife army' that managed to dislodge Louis from Versailles |
21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
whenever "joe said" is not automatically followed by "oh yea ? and who the fuck is joe ?" the situation is already in the handbasked and moments away from hell. |
21:53 |
PinkPosixPXE |
19:46 #bitcoin-assets: <+ben_vulpes> PinkPosixPXE: did the scriptkiddies getcher aws account? << nope |
21:53 |
PinkPosixPXE |
:) |
21:54 |
PinkPosixPXE |
may be dropped about 10000 packets total, and did nothing as soon as I flipped my ip.. |
21:55 |
PinkPosixPXE |
perhaps they decided going after 1 person wasn't enough for their e-peen-inflation |
21:55 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: incorporated << neato. now nubbins` can bake tshirts! |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
but everything here is one single person or another. |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform lol what, tshirts with the charter ? |
21:56 |
asciilifeform |
with sumthing. |
21:57 |
kakobrekla |
how do tshirts help? |
21:57 |
asciilifeform |
idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
have we been fooled ?! |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
'attacking #bitcoin-assets for their comments on reddit, assault against basic income, and other crap' << l0l!! |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
there it is, 'basic income' again |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
is that 'a thing' now? |
21:58 |
mircea_popescu |
what else do you suppose keeps approximately-washed middle aged boys in shared apartments with internet access ? |
21:59 |
asciilifeform |
i'd dearly love to know. where do i get some. |
21:59 |
* |
asciilifeform has to do all kinds of gnarly things for his 'b4s1c 1nc0m3' |
22:00 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I guess some idiots on reddit have to be scam trolls to get their daily income... |
22:00 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Then, didn't they like demand 2BTC ? |
22:00 |
kakobrekla |
idk, but 10 btc would buy a good fat crate'o'em < is this a protest of how unusable btc is to you or ? |
22:01 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: iirc you invented a way of using |
22:01 |
kakobrekla |
wha? |
22:01 |
asciilifeform |
how long can one run a kakobrekla on 10 btc ? |
22:02 |
kakobrekla |
sadly i also need to convert to a more acceptable format |
22:02 |
kakobrekla |
still |
22:02 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I recall that you were a proponent of 'guaranteed income' |
22:03 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: nah, more like guaranteed cloister |
22:03 |
cazalla |
ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\ |
22:03 |
kakobrekla |
asciilifeform and to answer your question, a few months |
22:03 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla lol problem solved. |
22:03 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla is clean, environmentally-spiffy engine |
22:03 |
mike_c |
first off, ridicule! second, how do you run an iphone without itunes anyway? |
22:04 |
* |
kakobrekla has optimized his reoccurring costs quite a bit |
22:04 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: like, if you are unwilling to provide for yourself, the gov't will supply one small stone cell with three gruels per day? |
22:04 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: where i live, they sorta do this already, but gotta be aryan |
22:04 |
cazalla |
mike_c, what would i use ichunes with my iphone for? |
22:05 |
mike_c |
well i don't know what you'd use an iphone for at all. but i thought you needed itunes to install shit on it. |
22:05 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: the current pNohe is entirely usable without a computer. |
22:06 |
cazalla |
mike_c, you can use the appstore and just upload your music, download pics via ftp provided it is broken |
22:07 |
mike_c |
i guess you can use an iphone to impress the other girls at the party. gotta get a cute cover for it though. |
22:07 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: in Stierlitz, is it some kind of inside joke when they go through the 'personnel file' of every high ranking Nazi and they all say exactly the same thing? |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: aha. |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: idea is, you can't play unless 'aryan, good nordic character' |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: so clearly, if you're in the game, that's you. |
22:08 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: notice, 'baron von stierlitz' has the same in his file. |
22:09 |
decimation |
of course. I feel like I started halfway in though, they keep mentioning his earlier exploits with V weapons and I seem to have missed that |
22:09 |
cazalla |
mike_c, i thought it was the girls that like to impress with their phone, blinged up cases and all |
22:10 |
mike_c |
yes, the key to the joke was "the other girls" |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
stone cell with three gruels << notice a peculiar fact about various 'advanced' bezzlatron nations where one can get a nice flat and three fine restaurant meals a day. but, for some reason, the occupants of said flats are not coughing up any great advances in sciences, arts. |
22:10 |
asciilifeform |
ergo, the sponsors are selective about who gets the cell and three gruels. in a very particular way. |
22:11 |
cazalla |
mike_c, matters not, sporting an old phone will just get you labelled as a hipster because the 3310 is vintage yo |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
(only exception i know of re: 'not coughing up' was j. k. rowling, author of the children's book 'harry potter.' i wonder if they billed her for the pension retroactively...) |
22:12 |
mike_c |
certainly works in brooklyn |
22:12 |
asciilifeform |
i suppose ed limonov might be another exception. |
22:13 |
decimation |
either those who are rich in bezzlars are sitting on their brilliant inventions or the method by which one comes to hold bezzlars has little to do with productive activity |
22:13 |
decimation |
of course, there is the 'george boole' problem, as you point out in the comments |
22:14 |
asciilifeform |
neh, the thread was, in some parts of the world one can get the 'three gruels and a cell', but very few of the folks subscribed have shat out anything worth talking about |
22:17 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: it is an odd fact that most 'upright' folks in the us would prefer to starve rather than depend on welfare, yet the same folks view their mortgage deductions as a birthright |
22:17 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: outside of usa, there are misconceptions. it isn't like anyone can just go and sign up for 'welfare.' |
22:18 |
asciilifeform |
if you aren't in the target demographics (not purely 'ethnic', but approximately for most purposes) it may as well be 'macarthur grant' or nobel, for all you'll ever see of it |
22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> wait a seccond. is lawsky the reddit supernintendo or the actual supernintendo ? << scam, he's just one of those rpi based emulators made the chicoms |
22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> one can get a nice flat and three fine meals [...] not coughing up any great advances in arts. <<< yes, they are. |
22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
cocksucking's an art too you know. |
22:20 |
asciilifeform |
and afaik, most of 'homo redditicus' is not living from government pensions, but from relatives |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and where do the relatives get it ? |
22:20 |
asciilifeform |
same place i get it. |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
from tax breaks to deferring of college debt, it's all a gift. |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
<cazalla> ignoring the ridicule for having an iphone, i was going to write up this circle app but cannot because there is 2180 results for apps with the name circle and you must install ichunes to use the link to install :\ << sounds like a review in itself |
22:21 |
asciilifeform |
the tax breaks mostly subsidize playing in chumpatrons like real estate |
22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
now to the massive task of documenting this deedsbot thing. |
22:22 |
asciilifeform |
(e.g., the 2k i pay landlord is 100% tax-free income for him) |
22:23 |
kakobrekla |
jebus 2k rent? |
22:23 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: aha. |
22:23 |
kakobrekla |
srsly. |
22:23 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: 'cheap' too. |
22:24 |
kakobrekla |
unserious |
22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Seriously plausible for a US coast. |
22:24 |
decimation |
yeah in ascii's area $2k for a house is cheap |
22:24 |
mike_c |
significantly cheaper than mine.. |
22:24 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu has it right re: the massive bezzle gifts, but notice that these aren't really handouts to the plebes - they only get to touch the money and feel warm inside for a few seconds, then they have to give it directly to real estate chumpmeisters or college racket |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
well of course. |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla unlike europe, the us is very poorly developed. |
22:25 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
well... they ain't got that. |
22:26 |
asciilifeform |
the 2k does not include other bezzles. e.g., auto, without which it is flatly impossible to buy edibles much less earn anything |
22:26 |
asciilifeform |
and various insurances. |
22:27 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I added all this up once, and came to the conclusion that every single person in the washington DC area must have an income of >$100k |
22:27 |
decimation |
which didn't seem right |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
punkbot list deedsystem |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this supposed to do ? |
22:28 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: every 'burgher' (see mircea_popescu's essay on the subject) - exactly right |
22:28 |
asciilifeform |
but there are several categories of inhabitant who don't need money at all |
22:29 |
asciilifeform |
unfortunately those categories are almost entirely membership-by-birth. |
22:31 |
decimation |
regarding birth, the ironic thing about wash dc is that the majority of these 'burghers' are holding gov't jobs, which are more-or-less sinecures for life |
22:31 |
decimation |
meanwhile they have kids, who also need to eat |
22:32 |
decimation |
those kids being the exact objects which the real estate/job-for-life chumpatrons must devour to sustain themselves |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
22:47 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> not even kidding. you know that thing where you can't walk for 50 miles without ending up in a town, nor 10 miles without crossing a road ? << True story, did that. |
22:48 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/ |
22:52 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/commissioner-mark-wetjen-cftc-would-have-authority-to-bring-enforcement-actions-against/ |
22:53 |
cazalla |
beat you to it, scoopbot |
22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
o nice, scoopbot. |
22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
scooptbot request n00dz |
22:54 |
decimation |
lol so the wall street journal op-ed is where one makes usg policy now? |
22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: No, it's where USG policy used to be made |
22:59 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: government jobs << in usa, everyone - at least, within a few steps of recursion - has a government job. |
22:59 |
asciilifeform |
(see the canonical piece by 'last psychiatrics' re: one town where this was demonstrable to the naked eye.) |
23:00 |
decimation |
yeah, in the wash dc area it's just a little flatter I guess |
23:00 |
asciilifeform |
that is, either works for usg, works for entity funded by usg, or works for a humble physical service (e.g. restaurant, plumber's shop) that is frequented by 1 and 2 |
23:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41888 @ 0.00072794 = 30.492 BTC [-] {5} |
23:01 |
asciilifeform |
if you're a potato monger in idaho - usg funded. |
23:01 |
asciilifeform |
even if you only sell for gold dubloons and have never heard of farm subsidy. |
23:02 |
decimation |
of course 99% of farmers prefer to receive usg electronic transfers directly to their accounts |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
but the point here is, the most humble tomato peddler at my local market - still usg funded. |
23:03 |
decimation |
yeah, this is true |
23:03 |
decimation |
for instance, he's still going to have to sell some gold to pay his land tax in dollars |
23:03 |
asciilifeform |
(it blew my mind the other week when i noticed that these were being paid, by many folks in the crowd, with... something quite like actual monopoly money. issued by the state, it turned out, 'vegetable food stamps.' presumably these are redeemable for usd in some dark cellar at city hall.) |
23:03 |
decimation |
that fellow who lived under a stump or whatever might claim to be somewhat independent, but really he's just taking advantage of usg's lack landlordship |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform nope, they're not. |
23:04 |
decimation |
no ascii that's EBT |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: ? |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
they're not redeemable for usd. |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
wai wat |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
what're they redeemable for? veggies at neighbouring tables? |
23:04 |
asciilifeform |
arse-mouth system? |
23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform tax receipts mostly. |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't go plunk down a pile of em and get dollars in exchange. |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't sell them to a guy down the street |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
etc. |
23:05 |
* |
asciilifeform floored |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you recall when california paid its suppliers in ious |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
then REFUSED to take the same in exchange for tax receipts ? |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
the only innovation there is refusing to take them in exchange for the only thing they used to be good for. |
23:06 |
decimation |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo |
23:06 |
assbot |
Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit) - YouTube |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
ca should've been cut up and loaded onto slave ships long ago |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
but in reality, the place is a miniature r&d laboratory for usg bezzlatronics. |
23:07 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: I've heard it's common practice to buy 'qualified' goods and sell on ebay for usd |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe, i dunno |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
aha like cc scammers. |
23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman hey how does one download the bundle db ? |
23:12 |
decimation |
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UV7NDO0.htm |
23:12 |
assbot |
Food stamp fraud raising concerns in gov't offices - BusinessWeek |
23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
75 billion a year. |
23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/ << USG shorting augmented |
23:14 |
assbot |
Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net |
23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
that comes to... brace yourselves... 250 bucks a year per capita. |
23:14 |
decimation |
on food stamps alone |
23:15 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: misplaced a zero again? |
23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
about 1/4 ton tomato paste in bulk |
23:15 |
decimation |
there's also WIC http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/press-releases/2014/fifty-four-defendants-charged-in-18-million-wic-and-food-stamp-fraud-conspiracy |
23:15 |
assbot |
FBI — Fifty-Four Defendants Charged in $18 Million WIC and Food Stamp Fraud Conspiracy |
23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation yeah the mob's making a killing with it. |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno why they keep playing it coy and oh, people. |
23:16 |
kakobrekla |
whats left in bfl, a few k btc? |
23:16 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/court-order-bfl-to-transfer-bitcoins-to-court/ |
23:16 |
assbot |
Court Order: BFL to transfer Bitcoins to Court | Qntra.net |
23:16 |
joecool |
lol at the AKA's |
23:17 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla doubtful anything's left, fgor a year now |
23:17 |
decimation |
I like how one arm of USG is threating anyone who has touched a bitcoin, while the other arm claims that they could not possibly investigate welfare fraud |
23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
welfare fraud is good. |
23:18 |
asciilifeform |
' The order also gives the receiver authorization to convert the bitcoins "to cash on a systematic and reasoned basis."' << brace for waterfall. |
23:18 |
kakobrekla |
i have enough of this waterboarding :p |
23:18 |
decimation |
well, welfare fraud definitely serves some purpose, otherwise usg would 'investigate' it |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation lemme illustrate the point with a humorous story. |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.27bslash6.com/massanutten.html |
23:21 |
assbot |
Massanutten. Water slides, mini-golf and bears. |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the part where he says "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority" |
23:22 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-bitcoin-assets-deed-system/ |
23:22 |
assbot |
The #bitcoin-assets deed system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
just as long as you agree to move your sustenance to stealing from the government, the government won. |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
you're still depending on it, whether you like it or not. |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
it doesn't care if you fight "for" or "against" it, just as long as your fight is ~about~ it. |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
on it goes. |
23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a good reason http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ comes up with "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" or w/e else. |
23:24 |
decimation |
lol I've stayed at massanutten |
23:24 |
* |
asciilifeform 'private key for the confirmatory transaction' << misread as 'the crematory transaction' |
23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
23:27 |
decimation |
massanutten is kind of a weird retirement area/resort for the wash dc area |
23:27 |
decimation |
for people who are not creative enough to find a more amusing place to live than a hill in rural Virginia |
23:29 |
decimation |
lol "That looks like a dog with a blanket on it. I'm not going to waste anyones time sending an officer out to check that. " |
23:29 |
decimation |
this guy is strong with the art of troll |
23:30 |
asciilifeform |
"ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. |
23:31 |
asciilifeform |
although even this no longer suffices. |
23:31 |
asciilifeform |
seems like they don't make oceans wide enough, any more. |
23:31 |
decimation |
so the anarcho-tyranny that 'upstanding citizens' complain about is really just two sides of the same customer service counter |
23:32 |
decimation |
the stick, for those who are willing to yield, the carrot for those who are willing to eat |
23:33 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
people generally are slaves. this holds true irrespective of what the fashionable slavegarb is at any point. |
23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> "ignore it" not with "debunk it" or "use it" << ignoring herr lysenko is best done from across an ocean. << the internet is an ocean. |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, we also beat coinfire to the BFL story |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
By about 20 minutes |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
wd! |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/529494297117487104 << Calling them out |
23:44 |
assbot |
Court in the /ButterflyLabs case has ordered for some of the co bitcoins to be moved to a court wallet & to be sold: https://t.co/7nxuZcdG7t |
23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Since we were firsted the link http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3955937 |
23:56 |
BingoBoingo |
scoopbot request tits |