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00:00 assbot Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
00:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23076 @ 0.00080552 = 18.5882 BTC [+]
00:05 thestringpuller ;;bc,stats
00:05 gribble Current Blocks: 307140 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1307 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16458311240.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.25228
00:05 moiety whoops well the doge community does not like being told "fuck you".... i'm in the doghouse
00:13 Vexual boingo brain u genius
00:16 mthreat !up mjr_
00:21 mthreat <mircea_popescu> mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << sure, do you have the logs for the first year?
00:22 Vexual lol
00:22 mthreat <benkay> linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work << i'm shit at CSS; feel free to suggest changes, with css/html code if possible
00:23 mircea_popescu mthreat drop me your email, ill send you what i got.
00:23 mircea_popescu lemme see here
00:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080559 = 13.0103 BTC [+] {2}
00:24 mircea_popescu Azelphur FabianB mod6 punkman mind sendinmg your early logs to mthreat too ?
00:24 mircea_popescu up until july 2013 if memory serves.
00:25 mircea_popescu may actually.
00:26 mthreat log.b-a currently goes back to 26-4-2013 I believe
00:26 mjr_ what a treasure trove of fun memories
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9997 @ 0.00080506 = 8.0482 BTC [-]
00:26 mthreat http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2013
00:26 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
00:27 mthreat ^ that is the oldest day, and the first entry has id #1.
00:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00080464 = 8.7062 BTC [-] {2}
00:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 894 @ 0.00080255 = 0.7175 BTC [-]
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00:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00080255 = 13.523 BTC [-]
01:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00080574 = 6.8488 BTC [+]
01:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.067 = 1.206 BTC [+]
01:04 Vexual yo smidge, -1 me for effectiveness
01:04 Vexual :)
01:06 benkay ;;ident Vexual
01:06 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne
01:06 benkay is this real life?
01:06 Vexual can i haz job now ben10?
01:06 benkay ;;gettrust assbot muXne
01:06 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
01:07 benkay well if this aint a how d'you do
01:07 benkay i don't hire markov chains, Vexual
01:10 benkay but play some music i might send you a bitcent or two
01:10 Vexual shit got lippy, i deleted it
01:10 Vexual now i forget what you like
01:11 benkay well i enjoyed this a lot today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-QRw9Pl5WI&eml=2014June19/1644059/6011909
01:11 assbot Seeed - Cherry Oh 2014 (Animatic) - YouTube
01:13 benkay peeeeete
01:13 benkay m'lad
01:13 bitcoinpete lol hey benkay
01:14 bitcoinpete just came across this gem: https://twitter.com/coin_artist/status/480574910515789825
01:14 assbot Portrait of /AmirTaaki and /Radomysisky. Let the decrypting begin. Victor takes all. /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/art?src=hash /hashtag/hiddentreasure?src=hash http://t.co/JmrjfROEWO
01:17 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--WNQEZhtOQ
01:17 assbot "I Always Smile Kid" BL-DUB BEATS - YouTube
01:20 mircea_popescu ହିନ୍ଜଡା << this is a word
01:21 Apocalyptic in Sumerian maybe
01:21 mircea_popescu some indian language
01:21 Vexual sanskrit?
01:22 moiety what does it mean?
01:22 Vexual ^
01:23 moiety is it just me that it looks like a row of people to?
01:23 moiety well, heads
01:24 mircea_popescu yeah.
01:24 moiety XD
01:26 Vexual i met a girl that knew sanskrit once
01:26 mircea_popescu mthreat sent to april 27th
01:27 mircea_popescu there are prolly holes in it tho
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.067 = 1.005 BTC [+]
01:27 mthreat ok
01:28 mircea_popescu ;;later tell pigeons hey you got old -assets logs ? 2012 to 2013 ?
01:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:30 mircea_popescu Aug 10 08:04:15 *patrickharnett (cb4f5ec0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.79.94.192) has joined #bitcoin-assets
01:30 mircea_popescu days of yore heh
01:30 mircea_popescu ;;seen bitfoo
01:30 gribble bitfoo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 14 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <bitfoo> +1 for informative titles
01:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-]
01:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00080485 = 12.4752 BTC [-] {3}
01:34 mircea_popescu ;;seen oneeyed
01:34 gribble oneeyed was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <OneEyed> Oh, I thought I had read an IRC transcript on bitcointalk earlier today. Sorry for the confusion.
01:34 mircea_popescu what's jcpham's gay nick these days ?
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4438 @ 0.00080599 = 3.577 BTC [+]
01:39 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, rithm
01:39 mircea_popescu a yes ty.
01:39 mircea_popescu ;;later tell rithm hey you got old -assets logs ? dump em on mthreat
01:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:40 Apocalyptic yw
01:40 bitcoinpete man the world cup wouldn't be 1/10th as interesting w/o bitbet
01:40 moiety imma get a couple hours sleep, night all :]
01:40 bitcoinpete having a huge amount of fun
01:41 bitcoinpete cheers moiety :)
01:41 mircea_popescu moiety sex weeks to you!
01:41 moiety XD
01:43 bitcoinpete the blackcoin "community" has been driving some traffic to my blog with the litecoin article
01:43 bitcoinpete http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/28nfvs/why_its_over_for_litecoin_this_is_great_for/
01:43 assbot Why Its Over For Litecoin (This is GREAT for BlackCoin!) : blackcoin
01:43 bitcoinpete there are some lulz in the comments
01:44 bitcoinpete "Peter Dushenski is a first class bellend who would attack blackcoin if it was in litecoins position. JUST REMEMBER THAT!"
01:44 bitcoinpete probably the best one there
01:44 bitcoinpete "Blackcoin definitely has what it takes to be competitive in today's market. A solid development team combined with a focus on real-world adoption will give us a bright future."
01:45 Vexual yarr
01:45 bitcoinpete "I don't necessarily disagree with the message, and I think advertising there a great idea. However, we should absolutely not stoop to coin wars type of posts. Blackcoin can succeed along with LTC."
01:45 bitcoinpete don't stoop!
01:46 bitcoinpete "My point is simply that honey attracts more flies than vinegar and we don't need to attack other coins or promote negativity. It turns people off."
01:46 bitcoinpete that dale carnegie...
01:46 mircea_popescu bellend eh ?
01:47 mircea_popescu wtf is blackcoin in the first place.
01:47 Vexual not atc\
01:48 mircea_popescu that's a point.
01:48 bitcoinpete ya… bellend… not even "m'lad"
01:49 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/BlackCoinPool/status/480459195855020032
01:49 assbot /hashtag/TeamBlack?src=hash just finished getting interviewed by /CoinTelegraph really awesome stuff! http://t.co/EObIGvkbYr
01:49 bitcoinpete there they be
01:49 bitcoinpete in all dat glory
01:50 mircea_popescu justusranvier you know if you made a point of cutting out tired cliches such as "By now everyone has heard of" your writing'd benefit immensely.
01:50 bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: Fucking hashpower << this.
01:51 mircea_popescu "The origins of modern currencies started with gold and other precious metals." modern has an actual meaning. modern currencies start with the paper receipts used in england and then spread all over. premodern money starts with bronze and shells.
01:52 Vexual bronzing up is still a thing
01:52 mircea_popescu "Over time, as finance and commerce became more sophisticated, the concept of a unit of account emerge and gold generally became the default unit. Much has been written regarding why gold fell into this role, but for our purposes here it’s sufficient to note that it did." << seriously ?! what is this, insult the reader's intelligence club ?
01:53 Vexual ;;ud bronzing up
01:53 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bronzing%20Up | "They smeared themselves with their own waste, but the protest (known in jails as bronzing up) proved futile when they were later told they were not required at ...
01:54 mircea_popescu that thing needs a complete re-write
01:54 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqrvF4qCQAAEmtE.jpg << that's the solid dev team that defvinitely "has what it takes in the market" ?
01:55 mircea_popescu also in the news, cointelegraph needs a bubble level
01:56 bitcoinpete that yellow tie does wonders to obscure the gender of its bearer
01:57 bitcoinpete sorta reminds me of the italian model cum nun
01:57 bitcoinpete in the "well that's unexpected" way
01:58 mircea_popescu not like there's any women in these solid teams anyway
01:59 bitcoinpete despite their "fairly distributed" motto
01:59 bitcoinpete i bet you their "community bounties" aren't all they're cracked up to be either
02:00 bitcoinpete Cosmos: I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive << i want to sense sarcasm but i'm just not seeing it
02:00 bitcoinpete o there it is
02:00 bitcoinpete subtle
02:02 mircea_popescu "They are beyond question the loveliest of all their sex...In the United States, of course, where natural selection has been going on, as elsewhere, and where, much more than elsewhere, that has been a great variety to choose from. The eventual American woman will be even more beautiful than the woman of to-day. Her claims to that distinction will result from a fine combination of the best points of all those many race
02:02 mircea_popescu s which have helped to make our population."
02:02 mircea_popescu someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago.
02:03 bitcoinpete never saw walmarters coming...
02:04 mircea_popescu beauty does not coexist with convenience.
02:04 mircea_popescu only the knuth and starvation makes beautiful girls.
02:05 mircea_popescu apparently it's spelled knout
02:05 bitcoinpete ;;google knout
02:05 gribble Knout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knout>; Knout - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knout>; knout - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/knout>
02:06 bitcoinpete myeah
02:06 bitcoinpete googling "knuth" brings up this http://xkcd.com/163/
02:06 assbot xkcd: Donald Knuth
02:07 mircea_popescu flogger and famine. there, it even alliterates.
02:08 bitcoinpete starve and strap too
02:10 Vexual hmmmmmmmm
02:11 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k
02:11 assbot Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
02:22 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-PsaQCwoY
02:22 assbot OnDubGround - NoNoNo RMX - YouTube
02:22 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. << added to the growing list
02:30 bitcoinpete decimation: 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox << following the leader instead of trying new shit like this is guaranteed to screw over the entire industry
02:30 bitcoinpete just end up racing to the bottom on cost and process efficiency
02:42 bitcoinpete and logged up and... ready for bed. golf in the morning!
02:50 mircea_popescu nighty dear world.
02:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00080963 = 12.2659 BTC [+] {2}
03:06 punkman1 https://soundcloud.com/whyy-the-pulse/an-audio-illusion
03:06 assbot An audio illusion by WHYY The Pulse on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
03:07 punkman1 morning guv'nor
03:10 Vexual morm'm got that sans flash?
03:13 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjhsPt_8Gw
03:13 assbot Daft Punk - Teachers - YouTube
03:14 punkman1 try this https://ec-media.soundcloud.com/nOGV3YdxVaIA.128.mp3?f10880d39085a94a0418a7ef69b03d522cd6dfee9399eeb9a522019f6bfabf3fa1507fb8f4c1c7664b20f98a253a4cf99c459385527def42fa82ef5f49968df33e2860fbc6&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJNIGGLK7XA7YZSNQ&Expires=1403421391&Signature=iHJ%2FXd9SWVqXYX%2FhuSBLM8ly0B0%3D
03:14 Vexual yeah i got it, thanks
03:15 punkman1 makes me think of how I got no idea what some song is saying until I read the lyrics
03:16 Vexual allow me
03:17 punkman1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8H2klXyhRs
03:17 assbot Bad Joke [PARAZITII] - YouTube
03:22 Vexual kennilworth on da mic
03:23 Vexual thanks for the landcruisers
03:24 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyS9M8T03A following you home since forever
03:24 assbot George Clinton - Atomic Dog - YouTube
03:26 punkman1 hello, this is dog
03:27 punkman1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-K6yN4hEQ
03:27 assbot Pueblo Cafe - Todo Mi Vida - HD - High Quality - YouTube
03:34 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8
03:34 assbot Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
03:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00080981 = 2.065 BTC [+]
03:38 punkman1 ;;rate muXne 1 #b-a dj
03:38 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
03:39 Vexual ;;rate pynkman1 1 sexy wit da curses
03:39 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
03:39 Vexual ;;rate punkman1 sexy wit da curses
03:39 gribble Error: 'sexy' is not a valid integer.
03:40 Vexual ;;rate punkman 1 sexy with curses
03:40 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded.
03:40 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn0li1q1O0
03:40 assbot Siriusmo "Itchy / Cornerboy" - YouTube
03:43 Vexual wait
03:43 Vexual are you punkman?
03:43 Vexual yes
03:43 Vexual take it back to the shack
03:48 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc
03:48 assbot Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
03:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 69 @ 0.18968827 = 13.0885 BTC [-] {5}
03:58 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQYtAOSFEo
03:58 assbot DJ Hell - Wonderland - YouTube
04:05 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtMl-uipA8
04:05 assbot FKA twigs - Water Me - YouTube
04:05 Vexual hehe
04:09 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aF9AJm0RFc
04:09 assbot Johnny Cash - Hurt - YouTube
04:13 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-CpE73o2M
04:13 assbot Fever Ray 'When I Grow Up' - YouTube
04:13 Vexual as the sun comes up over latvia
04:22 benkay <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date
04:25 benkay <mircea_popescu> someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. // there are some gems. some.
04:27 benkay ;;later tell Vexual <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k << never again
04:27 assbot Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
04:27 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.066 = 1.518 BTC [-] {2}
04:39 benkay <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 // la cumbia!
04:39 assbot Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
04:40 benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014&bots=true#728328 // i take it back this is clearly our own dear Vexual
04:40 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
04:42 benkay <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc // i bet one or two of 'em is interested in becoming an actual sexopt
04:42 assbot Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
04:42 benkay sexpot
04:44 benkay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawlers_(band)
04:44 assbot Nightcrawlers (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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05:31 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 602 @ 0.00229842 = 1.3836 BTC [+] {2}
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05:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00087109 = 2.6568 BTC [+]
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06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00087109 = 6.5332 BTC [+]
06:20 muXne I forgot how to do it
06:21 Vexual like dat?
06:22 Vexual punkman u like lyrics?
06:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00087013 = 6.7 BTC [-]
06:24 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI check the date
06:24 assbot Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain - YouTube
06:30 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMX1sc3eOTE
06:30 assbot New York - Alicia Keys "Empire State of Mind" [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube
06:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10001 @ 0.00086986 = 8.6995 BTC [-] {2}
06:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500022 = 0.65 BTC [-]
06:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0650001 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2}
06:41 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0
06:41 assbot Patience - YouTube
06:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10083 @ 0.00086686 = 8.7405 BTC [-] {2}
06:47 Vexual moiety:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd9gpPifuU
06:52 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvy5TGLUls8
06:52 assbot Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Set Up Shop - YouTube
06:58 Vexual BLEND IT
07:05 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZmI3a-N-A
07:05 assbot The Herbaliser - The Blend - YouTube
07:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06363571 = 0.8909 BTC [-] {4}
07:13 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZtyV1kGMY
07:13 assbot Cypress Hill x Rusko - Can't Keep Me Down (Feat. Damian Marley) - YouTube
07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06286572 = 6.2866 BTC [-] {11}
07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.0298998 = 1.495 BTC [+] {6}
07:18 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTGrfs5TXM dear reader, your war doesnt exist
07:18 assbot War - Low Rider (HQ Audio) - YouTube
07:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03022011 = 1.511 BTC [+] {5}
07:25 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwXKJoKJz4
07:25 assbot Kelis - Milkshake - YouTube
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06007957 = 1.1415 BTC [-] {6}
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1704 @ 0.00087075 = 1.4838 BTC [+]
07:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0649999 = 1.495 BTC [+]
07:34 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbW1srpjZc hopper oz you thought deniro was a thing
07:34 assbot AC/DC if you want blood + Hell Ride - Tribute - YouTube
07:35 Vexual deniro is not a thing
07:35 fluffypony http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-06-18-db00fab.png
07:40 Vexual how goes the estonian tailors?
07:42 Bet placed: 2.9544 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.57721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,589.
07:54 fluffypony Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night
07:56 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_CEmybOjc
07:56 assbot Easy Rider - Jack Nicholson, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper[Best quality] - YouTube
07:56 Vexual i tried to go to hong kong
07:56 Vexual demeanour fine famability too high
07:58 Vexual i wont mentio the airline;i'm xhanging
07:59 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc
07:59 assbot Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider - YouTube
08:03 Vexual eat a dick kako https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo
08:03 assbot Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
08:04 Vexual fine as in accepable
08:09 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrqA93sW-8
08:09 assbot Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube
08:14 Azelphur mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards
08:16 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE
08:16 assbot Jennifer Lopez - Jenny from the Block - YouTube
08:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00087085 = 9.5794 BTC [+] {2}
08:23 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wtncm2yzUE
08:23 assbot Billy Bunks - Strumpets - YouTube
08:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06479972 = 0.7776 BTC [-] {2}
08:29 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb_racnz08
08:29 assbot Raw Aussie Hip-Hop with Cairns MC Wilba rapping live on Boom Bap FM - YouTube
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0008675 = 16.4825 BTC [-] {3}
08:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26640 @ 0.0008725 = 23.2434 BTC [+] {3}
08:39 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwTj9rR0BYY
08:39 assbot Hermitude - Ukiyo - YouTube
08:43 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeaIvjoH1FY
08:43 assbot Flight Facilities - Crave You (Adventure Club Dubstep Remix) - YouTube
08:43 Vexual sup TAT
08:43 ThickAsThieves sup
08:43 Vexual to adventure, and beyond
08:44 ThickAsThieves mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=269740803
08:44 assbot Steam Greenlight :: VoidSpace - The Dogecoin MMORPG
08:44 Vexual how many kid would wanna be you??
08:44 ThickAsThieves kids don't even know about me
08:44 ThickAsThieves it's how you stay cool
08:44 fluffypony you're so hipster
08:44 Vexual kids pick up on shit
08:45 fluffypony werd
08:49 ThickAsThieves flashback! http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/banana1015.com/files/2012/07/gngft.jpg
08:50 ThickAsThieves intersting, i didnt know steam sold non-games, they also have the greenlight program for non-games too http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765&section=software
08:50 assbot Steam Greenlight
08:51 ThickAsThieves mostly software you might use to make games...
08:52 ThickAsThieves vexual, gimme a good song, nothing dubstep or redneck
08:52 Vexual wait
08:52 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11A_lvcseo
08:52 assbot Blondie - Call Me - YouTube
08:53 ThickAsThieves hehe
08:53 Vexual lofi
08:55 ThickAsThieves it's weird to have such a rock song with no band in the video
08:56 ThickAsThieves she's all pretending to be Aretha Franklin when she should be Joan Jetting
08:56 Vexual the band is tied to the radiator back at he hotel
08:56 ThickAsThieves i wonder how much coke she did that night
08:56 ThickAsThieves she looks pretty drunk
08:57 Vexual yeah i think shes on nubbins herbs
08:58 ThickAsThieves this guy is drunk too "Yea, these are nice. I want the gold one but I will probably wait since bitcoins are way undervalued and gold is somewhat over valued in relation."
08:59 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0skjm-uJSs
08:59 assbot Blondie - The Tide Is High - YouTube
08:59 ThickAsThieves The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
09:00 Vexual yeah ppYgrdJ0pWk
09:00 ThickAsThieves I have 7 reddit karma!
09:01 xmj I have 20!
09:01 xmj My bad. 13.
09:01 Vexual how to reddit?
09:01 ThickAsThieves it's hard getting karma without agreeing with and pumping everything
09:01 xmj ThickAsThieves: just post interesting links.
09:02 ThickAsThieves for varying values of interesting...
09:04 xmj well du
09:04 xmj h
09:05 Vexual pWhj4sVeVS0
09:05 Vexual no?
09:06 ThickAsThieves i dont speak that language
09:06 Vexual pWhj4sVeVD0
09:06 xmj Vexual: posted his root password into irc. let's hack him. his ip is 127.0.0.1
09:09 Vexual 10 tons of honey pot for fools xjm
09:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 133 @ 0.06000085 = 7.9801 BTC [-] {8}
09:10 xmj Vexual: apologies. i'm mildly bored.
09:10 Vexual comment things on your way past
09:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 488 @ 0.05333757 = 26.0287 BTC [-] {21}
09:11 Vexual too late for that or you work in the garden
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00086529 = 2.5959 BTC [-]
09:15 Vexual ill gibe you a tip var is called vex
09:15 Vexual but your fail will cascade to fertiliser
09:16 Vexual mext years limes if you care
09:17 mircea_popescu lol hi there
09:17 Vexual PBCJWJXeFzk
09:18 Vexual hey
09:18 ThickAsThieves i wonder if vexual could pass a turing test
09:20 Vexual ;;rate mircrea_popescu 1 sexy
09:20 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
09:20 Vexual +d
09:21 Vexual TAT o can't chess
09:22 Vexual or see the kb
09:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves probably. turing test mostly verifies predictability.
09:23 Vexual well thats a fail, bring it
09:24 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edwsf-8F3sI
09:24 assbot Michael Bubl - Feeling Good [Official Music Video] - YouTube
09:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
09:27 ThickAsThieves it's interesting learning the signs of deception in stock TA articles, charts, etc, to try to influence the market to buy at tops, sell at bottoms
09:27 ThickAsThieves you pretty much cant trust shit
09:28 Vexual tat you know more about me than i do
09:28 mircea_popescu exactly.
09:28 ThickAsThieves like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/20/options-play-for-tapping-into-strength-of-netflix/
09:28 assbot Options Play For Tapping Into Strength Of Netflix - Forbes
09:28 ThickAsThieves i thought it'd be an article saying NFLX is going down
09:28 ThickAsThieves nope!
09:28 ThickAsThieves it just double-topped and she says buy!
09:29 Vexual i never knew netflix was tradable
09:29 mircea_popescu you have to understand how propaganda works.
09:29 ThickAsThieves i wonder how these things go IRL, like does her boss say "Please write a bullish NFLX article"
09:30 mircea_popescu there's no such thing as english language free press.
09:30 mircea_popescu no, generally it's not. goebbels didn't go "please write me a bullshit anti-jew speech again"
09:31 Vexual meanwhile australia is rocking private trackers and not caring
09:34 Vexual nrst belive im writing the bitcoin tax law too
09:34 ThickAsThieves "Bitreserve’s tagline is ‘the end of bitcoin volatility’. "
09:35 mircea_popescu what's bitreserve lol
09:36 Vexual ^
09:36 mircea_popescu o the cnet guy
09:36 mircea_popescu ya ya.
09:37 mircea_popescu read the guy's personal history sometime btw. it's quite instructive.
09:37 mircea_popescu patron saint of all neobees.
09:37 Vexual h,h,how to be cool?
09:37 ThickAsThieves cnet never really seemed interesting to me
09:38 mircea_popescu well basically guy sold out for about half a bn (back when us dollars were still worth something)
09:38 mircea_popescu then went on a spending spree, which left him bankrupt last year.
09:39 ThickAsThieves perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then
09:39 mircea_popescu now he thinks himself a bitcoin expert, without having spent his year humbly reading here.
09:39 mircea_popescu right. this can only end in tears.
09:39 mircea_popescu "Bitreserve is Minor’s way to address the problems and opportunities he sees with Bitcoin. He says most people will never be comfortable holding the volatile digital currency"
09:39 ThickAsThieves it irks me that bigger media now calls Ver Bitcoin Jesus
09:39 mircea_popescu i mean think about it. so many sorts of wrong in so little space...
09:39 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves why ?
09:39 ThickAsThieves too much irony for me
09:40 ThickAsThieves i guess i need to stop caring about idiots that trust the media
09:40 mircea_popescu i'll tell you, it's your emotional investment in said media, and more generally the notion that the whole establishment is a positive thing "taken together" that irks you.
09:41 mircea_popescu it's an evil empire, chiefly because it's made by stupid people to promote wrongness and error.
09:42 ThickAsThieves i guess itll at least yield drama fuel
09:42 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFprD6qIs
09:42 assbot Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube
09:43 mircea_popescu dubious. who cares about ver now that he's poor ?
09:43 ThickAsThieves well the media will be happy to report his failures
09:44 ThickAsThieves Bitcoin Jesus Crucified
09:44 mircea_popescu im wondering if they have a pedo story in the drawer about him too. i wasn't able to find one.
09:44 ThickAsThieves nah he has a real undertone of lack of confidence
09:44 ThickAsThieves probly has micropenis or something
09:45 Vexual fuck i spilled my shisky then
09:45 ThickAsThieves i guess those are probly higher % pedos...
09:47 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpgwxfPfsw
09:47 assbot If you like pina coladas - jimmy bufett Lyrics - YouTube
09:47 bitcoinpete ;;bc,stats
09:47 gribble Current Blocks: 307218 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1229 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16646758858.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.65207
09:47 bitcoinpete 129 ph...
09:47 ThickAsThieves wow
09:48 ThickAsThieves i guess ASICMINER is delivering
09:48 Vexual ph is so 2014
09:48 ThickAsThieves Estimated Next Difficulty:16,947,623,526 (+25.89%)
09:48 bitcoinpete ThickAsThieves: knc too
09:49 mircea_popescu and to cap the previous discussion : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Beckwith_James_Carroll_Portrait_of_Evelyn_Nesbitt.jpg
09:49 mircea_popescu woman is 16 and a half.
09:49 mircea_popescu o damn.
09:49 ThickAsThieves http://bitbet.us/bet/783/bitcoin-incremental-difficulty-to-increase-by-3b-or/
09:49 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 3.81 B (81%) on Yes, 0.87 B (19%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 47`543 (100`000 to 6`000)
09:49 ThickAsThieves just got interesting
09:49 Vexual recent pic?
09:49 mircea_popescu ya srsly.
09:49 mircea_popescu Vexual not more than coffee.
09:49 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 491.17953373 BTC. Current weight: 42,265.
09:51 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298nld4Yfds
09:51 assbot Paul Simon - 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover + lyrics - YouTube
09:51 xmj how fast is the rate of change?
09:51 Vexual variable
09:52 xmj approximately, per week
09:52 Vexual difficulty? its a thing unto itself
09:52 Vexual miners of ol' say price drives mining
09:53 Vexual i say bitcoin is bunta
09:53 Vexual ;;ud bunta
09:53 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunta | The chief told the explorers they had two choices: death or bunta. The first, saying he has a wife and kids, easily chose bunta. The whole tribe bends him over ...
09:53 bitcoinpete ThickAsThieves: "On June 5th Friedcat's update mentioned the close to 60PH that was finishing up production. When asked how long that was from an inventory standpoint, he indicated 1 to 1.5 months from that day to sell everything plus the fiat to BTC conversion. 1.5 months from June 5th puts us around July 20th, a solid month from now."
09:53 ThickAsThieves apparently it's pretty hard to make a bitbet that difficulty can't satisfy
09:53 bitcoinpete from forumz
09:53 Vexual bitbet gets scary close to diff
09:53 Vexual months out
09:54 kakobrekla <Vexual> bitbet gets scary close to diff < take an unimaginable number and it will end up scary close.
09:54 mircea_popescu yup.
09:54 mircea_popescu exactly.
09:54 ThickAsThieves punkman should do another datamine: What if you bet .1 btc on Yes for all bets including "difficulty" and No for all others
09:55 ThickAsThieves probly $1m
09:55 ThickAsThieves hehe
09:55 mircea_popescu lol
09:55 kakobrekla nah, he just makes to make a bet that over next N bets the outcome will be positive
09:55 kakobrekla and bet on that.
09:56 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny, all these wanna-bes and have-beens trying to get involved into bitcoin with dysfunctional, nonsensical business models
09:56 Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 86(Y):14(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.67721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,541.
09:56 mircea_popescu when all they'd really need would be to forget all the wallets and whatnot and just you know, bet yes on this and no onthat
09:58 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEvh-DZ-kE
09:58 assbot Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (HQ with lyrics) - YouTube
09:58 xmj mircea_popescu: like those hedgefunds that put up bitcoin funds?
09:59 Vexual everything is all
10:00 ThickAsThieves “Cybercriminals acting in late 2013 installed a malicious computer program on the servers of a large hedge fund, crippling its high-speed trading strategy and sending information about its trades to unknown offsite computers.”
10:00 mircea_popescu lol
10:00 Vexual >>low speed
10:00 mircea_popescu there you go asciilifeform
10:00 ThickAsThieves Because of this systemic risk, the SEC recently announced it “will be conducting examinations of more than 50 registered broker-dealers and registered investment advisers, focusing on areas related to cybersecurity.”
10:00 mircea_popescu and diametric. naggum was wrong.
10:01 ThickAsThieves SEC gonna need a bigger boat
10:01 mircea_popescu people doing "navy manuals" and whatever the fuck use decent software stacks for a limited time only.
10:01 Vexual lol
10:01 mircea_popescu in general, once corruption becomes fashionable, holdouts last ageneration or less.
10:02 mircea_popescu and obviously, there's no prize for the people that ran safe stacks. there's a prize for those who didn't, who now get to a) bundle a lot of unrelated responmsibility and blame it on this known cause and b) ask for more money.
10:03 mircea_popescu sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her.
10:04 mircea_popescu in this sense, you don't want either democracy or strong government, because neither democracy nor strong government are capable of acting differently from the weak spirited but rich parent of an estranged daughter.
10:05 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: spot on analogy
10:06 bitcoinpete "According to the analogy theory, it’s because making analogies requires thinking across traditional mental categories. In fact, some cognitive scientists have proposed that the farther the analogy—that is, the farther apart the previous experience and new situation—the more likely it will lead to a radically new idea." << hocus "science" but a point
10:06 bitcoinpete http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/06/18/where-do-new-ideas-come-from/
10:06 assbot Where Do New Ideas Come From? – Phenomena: Only Human
10:06 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete there is something to the afieldness theory i think.
10:06 mircea_popescu i certainly use a lot of sex analogies in work fields specifically because people [english speakers] so deliberately compartimentalise the two
10:07 mircea_popescu it's a process much akin to inclusive franchise - more likely to yield better ballot results.
10:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00087778 = 8.8656 BTC [+]
10:08 bitcoinpete it's definitely hard for native english speakers to come up with our own sex analogies
10:08 bitcoinpete because of how compartmentalized all such notions are
10:08 mircea_popescu nude workday ftw.
10:08 Vexual i win
10:09 bitcoinpete we understand them, just generate them with difficulty
10:09 bitcoinpete i really shouldn't say "we"
10:09 mircea_popescu yeah.
10:09 bitcoinpete eh it's a skill to be worked on
10:09 mircea_popescu english jesus pete :D
10:10 bitcoinpete lol pete is already one of those bible doods
10:10 bitcoinpete i've been using a lot more analogies in irl conversation since hanging out here
10:10 bitcoinpete with pretty exceptional results
10:10 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAE8TOiZAs
10:10 assbot Forest Swords - Thor's Stone (Lee 'Scratch' Perry Remix) - YouTube
10:11 mircea_popescu watch out, you'rte gonna start picking up women and whatnot
10:11 bitcoinpete you shoulda seen me at the club on friday night
10:11 bitcoinpete lol
10:11 bitcoinpete wife was in las vegas for a friend's birthday
10:11 mircea_popescu (yes, it is my considered opinion that the one sine qua non condition for successful flirting is the device of analogy. anything else people insist upon, such as looking good, being funny, having money or w/e is piss)
10:12 bitcoinpete analogies tie in to "being funny"
10:12 bitcoinpete or they can
10:12 mircea_popescu woman may enjoy to laugh, but proper analogy brings this innocent sense of wonder forth
10:12 mircea_popescu which is how people fuck anyway.
10:13 bitcoinpete at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden
10:13 mircea_popescu mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories << werd.
10:14 bitcoinpete so people fuck by analogy…
10:14 Vexual carvel
10:14 Vexual fit fucks
10:15 mircea_popescu lol yeah
10:15 Vexual the undeniable
10:15 mircea_popescu punkman that's a direct (ie, word-for-word, idiom-blind) translation of a highly tensed romanian text.
10:15 mircea_popescu basically, sung google translate.
10:16 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/480657179918499840
10:16 assbot When I say 'most confused fan at the World Cup', I obviously mean after Columbian Nazi Weed Pope. Obviously. http://t.co/TXPVYcvHyo
10:17 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpugpzsQgus
10:17 assbot kymani marley - warriors - YouTube
10:17 mircea_popescu lol that's pretty good.
10:17 mircea_popescu i doubt the guy's confused per se. looks more like, we're lulzy to him.
10:19 mircea_popescu " In the next 2 days 18 indie bands in Shoreditch will name themselves Nazi Weed Pope."
10:19 thestringpuller lol i had a dream about bitcoin-assets
10:19 mircea_popescu benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ?
10:19 mircea_popescu thestringpuller did it involve vigorous copulative movements ?
10:20 mircea_popescu benkay: there are some gems. some. << well of course. but the guy didn't say "there's going to be A total knockout born somewhere in the US"
10:22 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dkfdZVcRCg
10:22 assbot EEK A MOUSE BITTY BONG - YouTube
10:22 bitcoinpete "It is highly unlikely that most Americans feel the current rise in prices as noise. Inflation has a way of eating into every penny that you have especially when the market is flooded with debt."
10:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: <<< well... "going to", anyway.
10:22 bitcoinpete http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/message-from-yellen-let-them-eat-noise/
10:22 assbot Message From Yellen: Let Them Eat “Noise” | David Stockman's Contra Corner
10:23 punkman ThickAsThieves: that gives an extra 0.23 BTC
10:23 punkman mircea_popescu: who wrote it?
10:23 mircea_popescu wrote what ?
10:23 mircea_popescu don't say "it" to me like it means something bish!!! i'm eighteen lines deep
10:23 punkman the tensed romanian text
10:23 mircea_popescu oh. lessee
10:24 punkman your "it" was the Bad Joke song, right?
10:25 mircea_popescu ya
10:26 mircea_popescu so it's mostly Cheloo (Cătălin Ștefan Ion), Ombladon (Bogdan Ionuț Păstacă) thyat write teh text thy play
10:29 mircea_popescu most of the stuff they write is practically chinese (ie, doesn't follow romanian topic conventions (as in most latin languages you can order the words either plainly or meaningfully in romanian), they layer an abundance of cultured reference in between common metaphor (which is a process of significating that goes one step further than the idiom, roughly used to be known in english as conceit back before the us was a t
10:29 mircea_popescu hing))
10:29 mircea_popescu and so trying to translate it mostly yields word salad
10:32 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete well she actually does have a point. the shreds of data people are making a big deal about are likely statistical noise.
10:32 mircea_popescu the systemic problems however... nobody wants to talk about those.
10:34 mircea_popescu lol that blondie vid is the tits. by her face you'd think she thinks she's singing inside a huge churning blender.
10:34 BingoBoingo OMG a recipe for word salad, where's dotcoin?
10:34 Vexual wait
10:35 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: myeah
10:36 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTp8rIK3nQ
10:36 assbot Blondie 1975 A Girl Should Know Better CBGB. - YouTube
10:36 bitcoinpete to use an analogy, fighting over a lifted toilet seat is easier than addressing the broken marriage
10:37 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxpe1oSp_sg << anyway, here's blondy back before she had fucked a truck and snorted a barge
10:37 assbot Blondie - Heart of Glass 1979 Video TopPop stereo widescreen - YouTube
10:37 mircea_popescu back when she had only fucked a regimen and snorted a pail
10:39 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-fabulous-baker-boys/ << the pfeiff plays something very akin to blondy in that. kickass filmn too
10:39 assbot The Fabulous Baker Boys pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:42 penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-one-more-cut-before-the-big-show/
10:43 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
10:43 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 599.24, Best ask: 600.29, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 599.24, 24 hour volume: 4127.55171453, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 597.461641604
10:43 bitcoinpete and i'm off to the course. ciao!
10:44 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG.
10:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self)
10:45 mircea_popescu so he came ?
10:45 thestringpuller ^- was talking about the dream not RL
10:45 thestringpuller (if that was directed at me)
10:45 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oDhuIPiTQ
10:45 assbot Elizabeth Hurley and Patsy Kensit in "Kill Cruise" (1990) - YouTube
10:47 mircea_popescu ;;google pemphigus
10:47 gribble International Pemphigus Pemphigoid Foundation | a common hope ...: <http://www.pemphigus.org/>; Pemphigus Definition - Diseases and Conditions - Mayo Clinic: <http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pemphigus/basics/definition/con-20025041>; Pemphigus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemphigus>
10:49 Bet placed: 5.01 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.68721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,522.
10:50 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZqN_VFhdo
10:50 assbot Daft Punk - Da Funk - YouTube
10:50 BingoBoingo %book
10:50 atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160
10:52 mircea_popescu lol that thing was even odds for a while
10:52 Vexual %diff
10:52 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 452941.55 in 146 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -36.68
10:52 Vexual fuck 6 months
10:53 Vexual :D
10:55 BingoBoingo %ticker
10:55 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
10:56 Vexual mmmm, the other satoshi
10:57 Vexual ican't belive it's not bitcoin
10:58 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs
10:58 assbot ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube
10:59 mircea_popescu "A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found that 20% of heterosexual men had only one partner, 55% had two to twenty partners, and 25% had more than twenty partners."
11:00 xmj mircea_popescu: des the study list the median?
11:00 mircea_popescu those 5% lied and it's a neat 25-50-25 i bet
11:00 Vexual and mp had a speadsheet
11:00 mircea_popescu Vexual i have no idea how one can go through a lifetime and fuck less than a coupla dozen people.
11:00 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WGPF1R.txt )
11:00 BingoBoingo !b 4
11:00 mircea_popescu for that matter, i don't know how one can go through highschool thus.
11:01 Vexual i delete my logs weekly
11:01 mircea_popescu but it'd prolly be pretty sad, rather frustrating and quite boring
11:02 Vexual ;;calc 18/23
11:02 gribble 0.782608695652
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04963532 = 2.9285 BTC [-] {27}
11:04 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust muXne
11:04 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
11:04 ThickAsThieves fwiw the Bitcoin Foundation still hasn't provided the free membership they noted all Bitcoin2014 conference attendees would be eligible for
11:04 BingoBoingo ;;rate muXne Markov chain
11:04 gribble Error: 'Markov' is not a valid integer.
11:05 ThickAsThieves not that i want it
11:05 ThickAsThieves but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting
11:05 Vexual bastards.
11:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00087364 = 37.1297 BTC [-] {3}
11:06 mircea_popescu uh. how would they provide it ?
11:06 Vexual harry potter wand
11:08 Vexual hermione touches you and youre in
11:08 ThickAsThieves by making a account on their website of course
11:08 ThickAsThieves maybe getting added to some email list
11:08 mircea_popescu oh
11:09 ThickAsThieves then i can bitch at them in their forum
11:09 mircea_popescu i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list
11:09 ThickAsThieves it
11:09 mircea_popescu once you're on list X and they say list X got membership that's it, you got it
11:09 Vexual i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane
11:09 ThickAsThieves 's not really anything
11:09 ThickAsThieves i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :(
11:10 mircea_popescu lol so don't.
11:10 Vexual i want my 3 bc back
11:10 ThickAsThieves This Website is Not a Member
11:10 mircea_popescu btw, do we have any earl of dorset/rochester / pre-"glorious" revolution experts in attendance ?
11:11 ThickAsThieves no, that guy is busy filling out a survey about how many people he's slept with
11:12 mircea_popescu lol wut
11:13 ThickAsThieves sorry, vexual is contagious
11:13 mircea_popescu i wonder how many privately retained vexual interpretation experts exist so far.
11:14 Vexual im not one
11:14 mircea_popescu i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer.
11:14 ThickAsThieves <+Vexual> im not one /// ha! i was gonna day 'does Vexual count?'
11:14 Vexual ive heard my trust clients are happy
11:15 mircea_popescu he can't count, no.
11:15 Vexual i can count
11:15 Vexual for a minute or two
11:16 mircea_popescu http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Texts/mankind.html btw
11:16 assbot Rochester, "A Satyr against Reason and Mankind"
11:18 Vexual i prefered the one about the crow in the swamp
11:19 Vexual prettuer
11:25 Vexual http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/lawson-henry/the-ballad-of-mabel-clare-0022053
11:25 assbot The Ballad Of Mabel Clare - Henry Lawson - Poem - Australian Poetry Library
11:27 mircea_popescu australian poet ? seriously ?
11:28 mircea_popescu what is this, the future ?
11:30 Vexual yeah they have to have a punchline
11:34 BingoBoingo !jd mpif
11:34 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.40505278 BTC; +0.42724399 BTC (+0.2484%) since last check 1d 23h 33m 35s ago.
11:35 mircea_popescu look kako, jdice put mpif ahead. quick, do something!
11:37 kakobrekla rm -rf wallet.dat
11:37 kakobrekla ops wrong window.
11:39 mircea_popescu lol
11:39 mircea_popescu usagi backups ?
11:40 kakobrekla no, i upgraded to no backup at all
11:40 mircea_popescu ;;google no pok
11:40 gribble NO POK - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieDXIhci7o>; RK House - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDA_4DKrbM>; No Pork At All - Seven years and comment is non-stop! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA>
11:41 BingoBoingo !up cowloon
11:42 asciilifeform does somebody still have log gaps? i've got a nearly continuous ~90MB turd starting at oct. 2012
11:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if you can cut off the part past 1st of may 2013, mthreat can prolly use more copies for coherence.
11:46 BingoBoingo ;;rate muXne 1 Markov chain
11:46 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
11:46 BingoBoingo ;;later tell moiety What did you do to the Dogers nao???
11:46 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06192108 = 0.6192 BTC [+]
11:51 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
11:51 gribble Current Blocks: 307234 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16615191009.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.41758
11:51 BingoBoingo What... the... fuck!
11:52 mircea_popescu ikr
11:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ba-turd.txt.gz
11:53 mircea_popescu mthreat ^
11:53 asciilifeform ^ note that my clock is set to american east time
11:53 mircea_popescu danke
11:56 BingoBoingo !up bocobit
11:56 * asciilifeform realizes he did not perform the traditional 'year of lurk'
11:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition
11:57 asciilifeform when did btca materialize anyway ?
11:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform roughly speaking april 2012.
11:58 mircea_popescu but i only started using it seriously in august
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.77524885 BTC to 9`505 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00087 = 6.5624 BTC [-] {2}
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00086374 = 17.8794 BTC [-] {2}
12:06 dignork Technocracy step I : http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1820&re=1
12:06 assbot Shtetl-Optimized » Blog Archive » Eigenmorality
12:08 punkman "So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject?  I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions.  The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how."
12:10 mircea_popescu lmao
12:10 mircea_popescu punkman who's this ?
12:11 punkman dignork's link
12:11 mircea_popescu o yea
12:11 mircea_popescu dignork maybe suggest this chan to the author ?
12:11 dignork I don't know him personally, will throw a comment
12:13 mircea_popescu !up ak__
12:13 mircea_popescu incidentally his definition is both a) quite strong and b) what i actually use
12:13 mircea_popescu the proposition that it's borne by history seems also quite defensible
12:14 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/morality/
12:14 assbot Morality Play
12:14 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/morality/
12:14 assbot Morality Play
12:16 mircea_popescu lol funny fit
12:18 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press. << OMG Trilema's jig is up!!!
12:18 mircea_popescu it's not teh press omg.
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05300003 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2}
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.053 = 1.325 BTC [-] {3}
12:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10157 @ 0.00086735 = 8.8097 BTC [+]
12:29 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers
12:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.056 = 0.504 BTC [+]
12:37 mircea_popescu "So for example, even if someone is unfailingly nice to you, if that person is an asshole to everyone else, then the eigenmoses moral code would demand that you return the person’s cooperation with icy defection."
12:37 mircea_popescu lol such bs.
12:37 mircea_popescu the model needs ego.
12:38 mthreat <+Azelphur> mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards << myeah that'd be great
12:39 ThickAsThieves <+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers /// pretty pro, huh?
12:39 thestringpuller lol everytime MPOE goes below 800000 there is a buying frenzy
12:39 mircea_popescu yeah bro
12:39 thestringpuller 80000 sastoshi*
12:39 thestringpuller ugh
12:39 mircea_popescu Even though the measures acquit themselves well in this particular tournament, it’s admittedly easy to construct scenarios where the prescriptions of eigenjesus and eigenmoses alike violently diverge from most people’s moral intuitions. We’ve already touched on a few such scenarios above (for example, are you really morally obligated to lick the boots of someone who kicks you, just because that person is a saint
12:39 mircea_popescu to everyone other than you?). << dpends if you're aiming to lead or to follow.
12:40 mircea_popescu does anyone feel like putting some work into python simulation ?
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05699475 = 0.6269 BTC [+] {2}
12:40 thestringpuller python for simulations...? sound like it'll be running a long time...
12:41 mircea_popescu thestringpuller academics, what do they know.
12:41 mircea_popescu punkman1 what are you doing these days ?
12:42 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28l0pf/most_blatant_extortion_ive_ever_seen_on/
12:42 assbot Most blatant extortion I've ever seen on localbitcoins.com forums : Bitcoin
12:45 dignork ThickAsThieves: the guy obviously doesn't know that LBC trades are going through escrow, so he can only damage some ratings. That is, unless buyers are clinical idiots, and release funds first.
12:46 mircea_popescu let's run through this dignork
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05699467 = 1.1399 BTC [-] {2}
12:47 mircea_popescu you (D) want to buy LTC. Seller (S) and scammer (X) and escrow (E) are the other players.
12:47 mircea_popescu d contacts x, x contacts s, sets up deal with e, obtains bank acct.
12:47 mircea_popescu x sends bank acct to d, d pays to account, s receives it, s says so to e
12:47 mircea_popescu e releases ltc to x
12:48 mircea_popescu x disappears.
12:48 mircea_popescu escrow deals are easily defeated by triangulation, which is why wot is still a thing where escrow is a noob toy.
12:48 mircea_popescu rather than vice-versa.
12:49 dignork x will have to show his escrow balance, otherwise d won't pay
12:49 mircea_popescu d doesn't know to ask.
12:49 mircea_popescu x has a multitude of ways to fake it, too.
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05592064 = 1.4539 BTC [-] {2}
12:50 dignork this is d assumed to be an idiot, or x have non-trivial ability to impersonate e
12:51 mircea_popescu both are true to sufficient degree for the practical needs of the swindle in question.
12:51 mircea_popescu think of it, this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by the power rangers a) gave half a million btc to trendon shavers and then b) gave half a million btc to silk road
12:52 mircea_popescu thus creating a one million btc headache for me and everyone else seriously comitted to making btc the end of western style government.
12:52 dignork well, so e would be able to fight it in court, but e doesn't want to get into court in the first place, so yeah, it has some merits
12:54 benkay <ThickAsThieves> perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then // bitcoin crucifixion
12:54 mircea_popescu dignork for that matter, x can simply convey d's request for proof to e
12:54 mircea_popescu e has to satisfy it.
12:54 mircea_popescu x now can prove to d.
12:55 mircea_popescu now how many "escrows" on the "market" have the sense to include a "Issued for use of X" thus defeating this mitm ?
12:55 mircea_popescu yes, they have to be clinically brain injured, as you say. guess what ? they fucking are
12:55 mircea_popescu and they think this is fine and "a community"
12:55 dignork mircea_popescu: LBC can divert this attack, by making e submit bank details
12:55 mircea_popescu and fuck you for being mean and dispariging them
12:56 dignork then x won't be able to open a trading account with duplicate details
12:56 mircea_popescu maybe
12:57 mircea_popescu that's the most you get here, a sort of up and down and all around maybe.
12:57 mircea_popescu and by now yuour defense has reduced to trying to implement a broken sort of wot anyway
13:00 dignork it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache
13:01 asciilifeform dignork: whenever you see a field where it seems as if 'cryptography never happened' - answer is always a misallocation of 'skin in game'
13:01 asciilifeform e.g. bank doesn't eat the loss from fraud
13:01 benkay <mircea_popescu> sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her. // my favorite is the one who gets her own condo and a photo studio to play with and raise her kid in
13:01 mircea_popescu hey, mine too.
13:04 mircea_popescu dignork even if you take the banks out of it, the escrow model is still weak to distributed identity attacks
13:04 mircea_popescu which is a degenerate form taken by sybil attack in the degenerate wot that escrow is
13:05 benkay ;;later tell bitcoinpete <bitcoinpete> at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden // whence the startle?
13:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:05 mircea_popescu and for that matter, this scam has a history older than steam. entreprising young american fellows used to canvass old world ads for girls looking to marry, then forward the details to old rich american to pay for thepassage
13:05 mircea_popescu and pick the girl up himself.
13:06 mircea_popescu women being a... consumable commodity, which once consumed has very strong incentives to stick
13:06 asciilifeform this scam will never die. every so often around here you hear of somebody caught stealing packages from doorsteps. same idea.
13:07 asciilifeform the thief may or may not have 'insider' tip on who just ordered new laptop, gold bar, etc
13:07 mircea_popescu and in principle, to make the point whole, for all those who wish the "good old days" were to return : they can not. they have been defeated in the field, through being weak to such things.
13:07 mircea_popescu i know for one i would never marry in other way than through making some old fart pay for it thus, were i living in 1814
13:07 mircea_popescu as a matter of principle.
13:09 mircea_popescu and so you can't have any sort of "conservative morality" predicated on anything in the set of ("women not being sluts", "god fearing", "wealth and power by age rather than with and connection")
13:09 mircea_popescu s/with/wit
13:09 punkman mircea_popescu: yeah maybe I can do a simulation
13:10 asciilifeform simulation of what ?
13:10 mircea_popescu punkman i would be very interested to see what happens if someone were to take the guy;'s idea, clean all the crap off it, and then add what's missing.
13:10 mircea_popescu by crap i mean, i suspect the academic used WAY TO FEW bots. use 100s of each type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar things.
13:10 asciilifeform ah that
13:11 asciilifeform ;;google social learning tournament
13:11 gribble Social Learning Strategies Tournament - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament1/sociallearning.html>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament II - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament2/Social_Learning_Strategies_Tournament_II_Rules.pdf>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament | Facebook: (1 more message)
13:11 mircea_popescu and by what's missing, i mean ego. the bots must consider themselves equally important to the whole world.
13:11 dignork mircea_popescu: what kind of data do you want to use, current WoT is tiny
13:11 mircea_popescu which is, if this switch can either kill me or kill the world, throwing it is even odds.
13:11 mircea_popescu dignork random generated.
13:11 asciilifeform (think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids')
13:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i recall we discussingsomething similar months ago
13:12 mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=axelrod
13:12 assbot axelrod
13:12 mircea_popescu here we go
13:12 mircea_popescu omfg i love mthreat
13:12 asciilifeform the laland tourney is considerably more interesting imho
13:12 punkman mircea_popescu, I'll give it a look, see how much I grok
13:13 mircea_popescu works.
13:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which one was that ?
13:14 mircea_popescu punkman prolly also drop the guy a link to the logs
13:14 mircea_popescu multiple sources can't hurt :p
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.055 = 2.145 BTC [-]
13:15 asciilifeform http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989663
13:15 assbot Why Copy Others? Insights from the Social Learning Strategies Tournament
13:15 asciilifeform ^ paper on winners from Tourney 1
13:15 mircea_popescu punkman also, the bs "nice" has to be thrown out, it's meaningless. just count who starts wars.
13:16 mircea_popescu (which approach probably would improve the original paper a lot too, just re-do it but not counting totals, merely counting cases of backstabbing)
13:17 mircea_popescu probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill
13:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the part i find the lulziest about these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in the field, defeated by hundreds if not thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies.
13:18 asciilifeform the gods of spam - always win
13:18 mircea_popescu it's almost as if being a scientist consisted entirely of beating the cheap boarding houses and asylums to select out of the pox ridden old hags "the paragons of beauty"
13:19 mircea_popescu that perhaps they were, twenty years prior, back in their flap days
13:20 mircea_popescu (for the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a testament to the traditional positive social view on tween prostitution)
13:20 asciilifeform seniority-based structure will do that.
13:20 mircea_popescu quite.
13:21 asciilifeform obligatory:
13:21 asciilifeform ;;google tarver decline and fall
13:21 gribble Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: <http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm>; my pdf copy: <http://babel.ls.fi.upm.es/~pablo/Jumble/decline.pdf>; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: <http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-05-28/news/39587015_1_first-degree-murder-second-degree-murder-former-hcc>
13:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1943 @ 0.00087151 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
13:22 asciilifeform 'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity. These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music. And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles
13:22 asciilifeform of these epics. First, the author rarely appears alone, sharing space with two or three others. Often the collaborators are Ph.D. students who are routinely doing most of the spade work on some low grant in the hope of climbing the greasy pole. Dividing the number of titles by the author's actual contribution probably reduces those hundred papers to twenty-five. Then looking at the titles themselves, you'll see
13:22 asciilifeform that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.'
13:22 mircea_popescu i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms".
13:23 benkay "For wits are treated just like common whores:
13:23 benkay First they're enjoyed, and then kicked out of doors."
13:23 mircea_popescu how're enjoyin' the logs mr vulpes ?
13:26 mircea_popescu lol derp goes right into how "they've won the scientific debate on climate change"
13:26 mircea_popescu except "deniers make phony think tanks"
13:26 asciilifeform where's this
13:27 mircea_popescu same article above, with the bad model for evaluating bots.
13:27 mircea_popescu by now im quite thankful for this entire global warming scam. it saves me so much reading.
13:27 asciilifeform it's a scam of the desperation/starvation variety. armies of folks conned into burning their lives for 'degree' want to eat.
13:28 asciilifeform want to stave off Butugychag.
13:29 mircea_popescu in a sense their intuition is quite correct : the world is in fact ending.
13:29 mircea_popescu just, their world isn't really THE world. but then again who knows this ever.
13:30 benkay "Adore those shrines of virtue, homage pay,
13:30 benkay And, with the rabble world, their laws obey.
13:30 benkay If such there be, yet grant me this at least: [220]
13:30 benkay Man differs more from man, than man from beast."
13:30 mircea_popescu goatfuckers had a point all along huh
13:31 benkay log challenge doesn't grow less with the ability to parse it quickly - now all the time saved reading quickly and ignoring the noise goes into reading the things herein linked.
13:31 benkay particularly good reading today, mircea_popescu, ty to yourself and asciilifeform
13:31 benkay and i think punkman
13:32 benkay mmm. search engines.
13:33 mircea_popescu i think the deal is kako gets the praise for the logs,
13:33 mircea_popescu i just get the arguments
13:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00086331 = 16.0144 BTC [-] {2}
13:34 benkay pfhah
13:34 mircea_popescu ha! now this may be a good formalisation of the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all those guys trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya, that'll work..."
13:35 mthreat <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results.
13:36 mircea_popescu ah
13:36 mircea_popescu kakobrekla what format would you want ?
13:37 thestringpuller !mpif
13:37 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021754 BTC (Total: 435.09 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
13:37 mircea_popescu mthreat the linking is particularly useful tho. is the crawl inefficient ?
13:37 mthreat mircea_popescu: not really, it's pretty easy.
13:37 mircea_popescu cool
13:37 mircea_popescu past days don't change anyway so you do once a day as it were ?
13:38 mthreat once Iset up the cron, yeah something like that :) Maybe twice a day, whatever.
13:38 mircea_popescu cool.
13:38 benkay this eigenmoses and eigenjesus stuff is interesting in that sir thomas moore follows the eigenjesus strategy
13:39 mircea_popescu benkay how do you figure ? and it's more
13:39 mthreat kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the <a href> anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day
13:39 mthreat if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0589999 = 1.711 BTC [+] {3}
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0008669 = 18.5517 BTC [+]
13:40 mircea_popescu can just use negative
13:40 mircea_popescu seems more... apt.
13:41 mthreat heh... like 300 BC
13:41 mircea_popescu yup
13:41 mthreat we'll call it "BMT" before mthreat
13:41 mircea_popescu hahaha
13:41 benkay well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest
13:41 mircea_popescu you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power.
13:41 benkay "Imagine, for instance, that 98% of the players are unfailingly nice to each other, but unfailingly cruel to the remaining 2% (who they can recognize, let’s say, by their long noses or darker skin—some trivial feature like that). Meanwhile, the put-upon 2% return the favor by being nice to each other and mean to the 98%. Who, in this scenario, is moral, and who’s immoral? The mathematical verdict of both eigenmoses and eigenjesus is
13:41 benkay unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
13:41 mircea_popescu benkay you read what, the book ? saw the movie ?
13:41 benkay i've only seen the movie.
13:42 benkay i'm referring to the character in the play/movie.
13:42 mircea_popescu yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king.
13:42 mircea_popescu what do you mean "work against" ?
13:42 benkay yeah, good question.
13:42 mircea_popescu what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ?
13:42 benkay i mean i need more coffee and a caning.
13:43 benkay but if the sovereign is demonstrably immoral and god sayeth otherwise?
13:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00086261 = 4.3131 BTC [-] {2}
13:43 mircea_popescu a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem
13:44 benkay my loyalty is first to god - and then the king.
13:44 decimation benkay: is that quote from the play?
13:44 benkay decimation: my tortured imagination.
13:45 mircea_popescu what quote
13:45 asciilifeform bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc
13:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform except what is a cliff ?
13:45 benkay divorce ;)
13:45 mircea_popescu lol
13:46 mircea_popescu the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects
13:46 mircea_popescu this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot
13:46 mircea_popescu there's very little difference between feudalism and escrow
13:47 mircea_popescu in fact, feudalism is a means of working land held in escrow.
13:47 mircea_popescu lemme try for proper english over here.
13:47 benkay it boils down to he who may destroy is the sovereign?
13:47 mircea_popescu loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes.
13:48 mircea_popescu benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king
13:48 mircea_popescu ie, once they get that schmuck to lie under oath and convict him of treason
13:49 decimation indeed, giving those loyal subjects universal sufferage solves nothing
13:49 benkay that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time.
13:49 mircea_popescu no such thing is clear.
13:49 benkay hm
13:50 decimation that very point was the climax of the movie (man for all seasons)
13:50 kakobrekla mthreat dunno, csv, mysql, what have you got ?
13:50 mircea_popescu decimation nah, the climax was when he shows himself an eunuch
13:51 mthreat kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end.
13:51 mircea_popescu up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not.
13:51 mircea_popescu mthreat ever got mine ?
13:51 mthreat belgium beats russia 1-0
13:52 mthreat mircea_popescu: yeah but asciilifeform's overlaps
13:52 mircea_popescu mine starts earlier im pretty sure ? or not ?
13:52 kakobrekla my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that.
13:52 mircea_popescu ideally this should be done once and cover the whole shjebang
13:52 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ship them to him ?
13:52 mthreat yours only had march/april 2013 I think
13:52 mircea_popescu 2012. look again.
13:52 kakobrekla but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
13:53 mircea_popescu and also ever got Azelphur's version ?
13:53 mthreat mircea_popescu: not yet
13:53 kakobrekla my logs are more work than worth
13:53 mircea_popescu kako a ok
13:53 mthreat kakobrekla: also you'll have to figure out how to number entries before your current entry #1 (April 26, 2013)
13:54 kakobrekla into negative ofc
13:54 mircea_popescu here's an interesting if unrelated point : what characteristic of classical english theatre, cca 1600s, was shared by both classical french and italian, but not ever since ? so that 99.x% of all good plays, all good actors and all good performances have this one thing in common, that's not been seen again ?
13:55 mircea_popescu (and the same holds for opera)
13:56 decimation exquisite set-making?
13:56 mircea_popescu mnope
13:57 decimation well, I don't have french or italian, but Shakspeare's plays were ... poetry
13:57 mircea_popescu turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people.
13:58 mircea_popescu consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast
13:58 mircea_popescu and the audience knew the craft better than any debutante.
13:58 mircea_popescu such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing.
14:00 decimation Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/
14:00 assbot Google Books
14:00 decimation books?id=5OsNAQAAMAAJ
14:01 mircea_popescu i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are
14:01 mircea_popescu "lo and behold, we should be affraid that democracy is now in peril of falling out of the box and revoting cape horn"
14:02 decimation the Patagonian cliffs care not for word-smithing and spinning
14:02 benkay i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
14:02 mthreat mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
14:03 mircea_popescu benkay problem is that approach contradicts the "world peace" approach. not burn anytihng at hand but clothe and feed anyone at hand ?
14:03 decimation one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous
14:03 mircea_popescu would you rather have soot or shit ?
14:04 decimation plutonium for me
14:04 mircea_popescu mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ?
14:04 mircea_popescu decimation no no, "we should tax everything and put the money into '''research'''"
14:04 mircea_popescu only THAT is the correct way to solve all the world's p[roblems
14:05 mircea_popescu in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice.
14:05 decimation actually, at least one of the mice was probably on the cat's side
14:06 decimation after all, it's better to have no humans at all than to have kulaks etc
14:06 mircea_popescu yes. one of the mice was oi the cat's left side
14:06 mircea_popescu while the other in the right
14:06 mthreat mircea_popescu: yah you were correct. But as you said, your log has gaps, so hopefully Azelphur's logs are more complete.
14:06 mircea_popescu hopefully ya
14:07 mircea_popescu to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
14:07 mircea_popescu let it not be said that irresponsible laziness has not made nice things
14:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu is one of those weirdos who actually turns his computer on and off ?!
14:08 mircea_popescu yea
14:09 decimation well, one can be certain of its state when power is not applied
14:09 mircea_popescu ^
14:09 decimation save wake-on-lan nastiness
14:09 mircea_popescu no such thing
14:10 asciilifeform someone actually uses wake on lan !?!
14:10 decimation well, impi, remote access, all the same kind of thing
14:10 asciilifeform who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ?
14:10 decimation I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
14:11 mircea_popescu Instituto Mexicano de la Propiedad Industrial. Registre su marca hoy.
14:11 decimation but yeah, not on a workstation
14:12 decimation I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise
14:12 asciilifeform i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
14:13 decimation well, to me the major attraction beside the ip-kvm is the power cycle feature
14:13 decimation but that can be had for even less money honestly
14:13 asciilifeform the high-end kvm have power relays
14:14 decimation interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh
14:14 asciilifeform is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway
14:14 asciilifeform e.g. whore with aids might as well contract syphilis
14:15 decimation yeah you are right ascii, but you do realize that nearly all public and private entities in the US fall into that category
14:16 decimation here's how the SEC put it: http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments
14:16 assbot Investor Alert: Bitcoin and Other Virtual Currency-Related Investments | Investor.gov
14:16 decimation "Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections."
14:17 decimation why would you want to live outside the benevolent "protection" of USG?
14:18 decimation honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin
14:22 thestringpuller how would you even insure bitcoins and who would insure them?
14:22 thestringpuller only MP has the capital to actually insure anyone...
14:23 thestringpuller (insure anyone worht insuring)
14:23 mircea_popescu nobody can insure bitcoin in the sipc/fdic sense, because nobody can print them.
14:24 mircea_popescu that type of insurance is typical manufacturer insurance, "that the product be free of defects or replaced"
14:24 thestringpuller what about the sense of car insurance?
14:24 mircea_popescu and so in this sense, it's not that bitcoin isn't insured in that way. it's moreover that bank deposits etc aren't, and the continuance of the fraudulent pretense to the contrary promulgated by various usg agencies among which the sec above strictly depends on it not being needed.
14:25 thestringpuller wow
14:25 thestringpuller profound...
14:25 thestringpuller (cause it's true)
14:31 decimation mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing. "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian."
14:31 decimation Don't use Bitcoin because we can't take it away from you, at our option
14:31 mircea_popescu lol
14:32 mircea_popescu but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option.
14:33 decimation so to be clear, it used to be the case that in order for someone to seize "your" money, they had to show up at your house and take your physical coins
14:33 mircea_popescu !up nerdfiles
14:34 mircea_popescu well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill.
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05527325 = 2.7637 BTC [-] {7}
14:37 decimation lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19735993 = 0.9868 BTC [+] {3}
14:39 thestringpuller ;;bc,stats
14:39 gribble Current Blocks: 307250 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1197 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16522880011.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.7319
14:41 mircea_popescu decimation and so they have modified themselves. no man living with carlyle would regard the average existence of today's westerner as anything but the most abject imprisonment
14:41 thestringpuller ;;gettrust casascius
14:41 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user casascius: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=casascius | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=casascius | Rated since: Fri May 13 00:14:25 2011
14:41 mircea_popescu so... they've modified themselves, to take more cock with less fretting.
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15:11 moiety ;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40
15:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:13 mircea_popescu wait wut
15:13 moiety i upset the doge people last night
15:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0586998 = 0.6457 BTC [+]
15:19 benkay <zrobo> cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 56 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0003. 24 hr volume: 310 megadoge
15:20 benkay http://celiabasto.tumblr.com/post/88217340700
15:20 assbot celia basto | 100% art | 100% ART
15:21 punkman let there be blog http://extemporized.com/
15:21 assbot extemporized
15:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00087187 = 13.5576 BTC [+] {2}
15:26 chetty moiety: don't you know women are not allowed to curse
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0586999 = 0.7631 BTC [-]
15:34 kakobrekla ;;later tell vexual log would be better off without your jewtube links.
15:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:34 moiety chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.0586999 = 1.5262 BTC [-]
15:42 penguirker New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/introducing-bitbet-py/
15:42 penguirker New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/hello-world/
15:42 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
15:44 FabianB mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there
15:44 mircea_popescu FabianB kk
15:44 mircea_popescu <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ?
15:44 assbot extemporized
15:44 ThickAsThieves sweet
15:45 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the smaller it gets, the harder it is to say
15:45 mircea_popescu "democracy" as practiced among a hundred that know each other is no democracy anyway
15:46 ThickAsThieves understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
15:47 ThickAsThieves i also wonder if age is a factor as well
15:47 ThickAsThieves probably on a curve
15:50 chetty ThickAsThieves,avg life in the time frame was short, if you lived very long you likely had more wisdom (which is why you lived)
15:51 ThickAsThieves i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever
15:51 chetty not sure age counts for much anymore
15:51 ThickAsThieves age of the group
15:51 ThickAsThieves not the individual
15:51 ThickAsThieves maybe inextricable
15:53 chetty I think closed is kinda relative tho, more like the semi-permeable membrane
15:54 ThickAsThieves like #b-a
15:56 chetty exactly
15:58 chetty http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JURORS_SOCIAL_MEDIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-22-11-58-35
15:58 assbot News from The Associated Press
16:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00086737 = 1.4312 BTC [-]
16:14 ThickAsThieves http://btcoracle.com/index.php is this OneFixt?
16:14 assbot BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading
16:14 ThickAsThieves !up OneFixt
16:15 OneFixt yup
16:15 OneFixt wait, no
16:15 ThickAsThieves lol
16:15 OneFixt not me, misread
16:15 OneFixt lol
16:15 ThickAsThieves good to know
16:16 * ThickAsThieves kinda misses btc options
16:19 ThickAsThieves coindesk has to articles about people offering bitcoin options, neither mentions mpex
16:25 mircea_popescu well it doesn't offer them anymore
16:25 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm. the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large.
16:30 Mats_cd03 i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize
16:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00086529 = 35.6499 BTC [-] {3}
16:31 mircea_popescu there's little incentive for it yet.
16:31 ThickAsThieves look at that boner https://icbit.se/WebTrade/Trading.aspx
16:31 assbot ICBIT Web Trading
16:34 mircea_popescu OneFixt you got teh logs ?
16:34 OneFixt which logs?
16:35 mircea_popescu of here.
16:35 OneFixt some, why?
16:35 mircea_popescu ah. well we're trying to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013
16:35 mircea_popescu if you got usable stuff dump to mthreat
16:35 OneFixt ah
16:35 OneFixt mine is not at all easy to dump unfortunately
16:36 mircea_popescu kay.
16:36 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
16:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.1, Best ask: 598.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.05000, Last trade: 598.15, 24 hour volume: 4096.67247212, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 598.315804175
16:39 FabianB $traded
16:39 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
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17:07 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/unii-sunt-putin-luati-da-altii-saracii-sunt-luati-rau-de-tot-mai-frate/
17:11 Bet created: "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/
17:14 Bet created: "Facebook stock to close at over $70 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/957/
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00086276 = 5.4785 BTC [-]
17:15 Namworld Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
17:15 mthreat split 7-to-1
17:17 Bet created: "Haruki Murakami to win lit Nobel" http://bitbet.us/bet/958/
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17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0560047 = 0.56 BTC [+]
17:35 mthreat mircea_popescu: have you managed to find good pizza in this town?
17:36 mircea_popescu mthreat american good pizza or romanian good pizza ?
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05597559 = 1.1195 BTC [-] {3}
17:37 mthreat mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza
17:37 mthreat #1, HAS tomato sauce
17:37 mircea_popescu it's kjinda it's own thing. imo better than italian.
17:37 mthreat here it's mostly bread and cheese
17:37 mircea_popescu anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D
17:38 mthreat magic
17:38 mircea_popescu but yes, tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on
17:40 punkman mircea_popescu: <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? << yes
17:40 assbot extemporized
17:40 punkman I think I should make a special feed for penguin though
17:41 mircea_popescu seems it picks it up jus' fine
17:41 punkman lest there be two dozen recipes posted one day
17:42 punkman did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog
17:43 mircea_popescu nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@!
17:49 mthreat There was this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was called "Dracula".
17:50 Bet created: "Anyone other than Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez to win the 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or" http://bitbet.us/bet/959/
17:52 mircea_popescu surprisingly.
17:53 punkman so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions?
17:53 assbot Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books
17:53 punkman "upon the time" ftw
17:53 punkman feeling russian
17:53 mircea_popescu punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all the math one could ever want.
17:54 mircea_popescu if it doesn't DO something it's not math anyway.
17:54 asciilifeform punkman: 'All the Mathematics You Missed' (Garrity) if impatient/american
17:54 asciilifeform punkman: otherwise what mircea_popescu said
17:54 mircea_popescu wow someone agrees ?!
17:55 mircea_popescu i thought that's like, my most heretic view.
17:55 asciilifeform the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text
17:55 asciilifeform i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers
17:55 asciilifeform also ask yourself, which mathematics
17:56 punkman this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_of_Theoretical_Physics ?
17:56 assbot Course of Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:56 asciilifeform l&l is geared to methods of theoretical physics (landau's famous 'minimum' exam)
18:01 asciilifeform punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman
18:01 asciilifeform http://faraday.fie.umich.mx/~rrusiles/Fie/Horizontal/Hopcroft_Introduction_to_Automata_Theory_Languages_and_Computation.pdf
18:01 asciilifeform ^ unfortunately not the edition with the hot chick on the cover
18:01 asciilifeform but full text
18:07 punkman mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05300046 = 0.583 BTC [-] {4}
18:08 punkman I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/
18:14 thestringpuller punkman: bitbet.py is dope
18:14 Mats_cd03 http://econbrowser.com/archives/2014/06/iraq-oil-markets-and-the-u-s-economy
18:14 assbot Iraq, oil markets, and the U.S. economy | Econbrowser
18:14 thestringpuller I'll have to see how you did colorization
18:15 Mats_cd03 and... http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/3-reasons-Iraq-conflict-isn-t-driving-up-gas-5569945.php
18:15 assbot 3 reasons Iraq conflict isn't driving up gas prices (yet) - SFGate
18:24 mircea_popescu punkman that is a point
18:24 mircea_popescu by now the research paper journals are little more than blogs anyway.
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.01735 = 1.3533 BTC [-]
18:26 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public,
18:26 mircea_popescu on it goes. 5 reasons why fucking up is okay and starvation isn't imminent.
18:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8353 @ 0.00085902 = 7.1754 BTC [-]
18:35 thestringpuller 5 conspiracy theories that are actually real
18:35 thestringpuller more at 11
18:44 punkman heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while."
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05699603 = 1.1969 BTC [+] {2}
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19:12 decimation thanks for the book asciilifeform
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19:49 BingoBoingo %diff
19:49 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 450695.27 in 113 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.00
19:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00084838 = 28.2171 BTC [-] {2}
19:52 punkman BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet
19:53 BingoBoingo punkman: Yeah, it's going to be tricky. Wonder how much hash is going to arrive after the diff change
19:54 mircea_popescu ;;calc 24 * 3600 / 512
19:54 gribble 168.75
19:55 punkman so we must be doing like 100 a day now?
19:55 mircea_popescu ;;calc 168.75 * .63
19:55 gribble 106.3125
20:00 punkman mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop.
20:01 mircea_popescu so make 400 bots, 20 of each type, meet everyone 500 times and play for n where the probability is .95
20:01 Mats_cd03 mircea_popescu: forgot the '(yet)'.
20:01 mircea_popescu 0.995 is bullshit, 200 rounds average ? wtf.
20:01 mircea_popescu but, importantly, give them ego.
20:02 punkman if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it
20:02 Mats_cd03 ;;bc,stats
20:02 gribble Current Blocks: 307282 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1165 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16351547351.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45924
20:02 mircea_popescu let's.
20:02 punkman examples: https://github.com/tscizzle/IPD_Morality/blob/master/the_bots.py
20:02 assbot IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master tscizzle/IPD_Morality GitHub
20:02 mircea_popescu specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot.
20:03 mircea_popescu b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type
20:03 mircea_popescu c) each bot has idem 0 to 20 of their type and also 0 to 5 of all types.
20:03 mircea_popescu all bots know the adversary's hitory with themselves
20:04 mircea_popescu now, on this information, each both has an ego, defined as the balance between the weight they give their own history vs the collected world history
20:05 mircea_popescu a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego.
20:05 mircea_popescu the bot that only cares of its own history has max, and the bot that ignores its own has min.
20:05 mircea_popescu these are also per-bot factors
20:05 mircea_popescu then let them play.
20:06 asciilifeform just one thing missing here
20:06 asciilifeform what's a tourney without... a prize.
20:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the prize is their life.
20:06 asciilifeform lol
20:06 Mats_cd03 lol.
20:06 punkman they get bigger number when they win
20:06 punkman they like number
20:06 mircea_popescu lol
20:07 mircea_popescu and srlsly, ditch the dumbass "total wot score" model they use
20:07 mircea_popescu just count betrayals.
20:07 mircea_popescu how people pretending to be in math and philosophy can be this fucking dumb is beyond me.
20:07 mircea_popescu next they're going to count the holes in the mains socket to get the voltage.
20:08 punkman the bots only know past moves during the current round as it is
20:08 mircea_popescu yes but from what i've seen, as a sum
20:08 mircea_popescu not as the all-crucial "he y'd you you n'd him"
20:08 punkman no it's a list of all previous moves
20:09 mircea_popescu a is it ?
20:09 mircea_popescu that's ok then
20:09 punkman (in the current round)
20:09 punkman no knowledge about world/environment
20:09 mircea_popescu not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart
20:10 mircea_popescu you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one
20:11 mircea_popescu After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu
20:11 mircea_popescu dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term. It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students.
20:13 punkman " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account."
20:13 punkman "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy."
20:14 mircea_popescu moves can be used as a ticker
20:14 mircea_popescu todo seems spurious.
20:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: other screeds by tarver: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog
20:21 assbot Popular Essays
20:21 mircea_popescu If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content.
20:22 mircea_popescu i actually read this before.
20:22 punkman I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant
20:22 punkman *fork
20:22 asciilifeform ^ tarver does not shit gold, not all necessarily worth reading
20:22 mircea_popescu punkman not bad. ICBE
20:22 mircea_popescu soon you'll get investors.
20:22 punkman from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag."
20:23 mircea_popescu punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares.
20:23 punkman yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament
20:24 mircea_popescu punkman for that matter, let people handpick lol
20:24 mircea_popescu human bot impersonators, that's epic
20:25 mircea_popescu hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie.
20:25 mircea_popescu this, quite very much.
20:25 mircea_popescu western women aspire to the respect of men, while living their western lives ?! lolk.
20:26 mircea_popescu i'd rather respect indian hajira.
20:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.05201126 = 1.9764 BTC [+]
20:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05201145 = 0.5201 BTC [+]
20:31 asciilifeform from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html
20:31 assbot A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types
20:32 mircea_popescu "et in arcadia ego" dumbass.
20:33 asciilifeform shoddy troll is shoddy, 'longcat is long,' news at 11
20:34 mircea_popescu no dude. legolas, definiely legit.
20:34 mircea_popescu - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I don’t know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thor’s Hammer on it.
20:34 mircea_popescu should be on reddit.
20:34 asciilifeform (some weirdo actually sent me the link)
20:35 mircea_popescu " The Dark Enlightenment allegedly has millions of dollars of money to play with."
20:35 mircea_popescu orly.
20:35 mircea_popescu what, like almost 1k btc ?
20:35 asciilifeform i think that was meant to imply mr. thiel
20:35 mircea_popescu Different forms of formal attire were required for each day (tuxedos, 3-piece suits, etc)
20:35 mircea_popescu dude!
20:35 mircea_popescu ah this is great lol
20:35 asciilifeform ('island' - obvious tipoff)
20:36 mircea_popescu "For the initial oath taking, everyone must swear on a copy of Darwin’s Origin of Species, just to show their fidelity to HBD"
20:36 asciilifeform (thiel actually exists, is said to hang out with 'moldbuggerers')
20:36 mircea_popescu ahgagaga wait, wait what
20:37 punkman I put on my robe and wizard hat
20:37 mircea_popescu i keep waiting for the biscuit already
20:37 mircea_popescu they're doing the sweaing on the ilyad and drinking out of specially made pornoi cups
20:37 mircea_popescu - They also have all their own secret handshakes, and their own terminology [like the Cathedral ("political correctness"), thedening ("re-establishing ethnic group identity"), genophilia ("love of one's own race"), NRx ("neoreaction"), etc.].
20:38 mircea_popescu well i guess we gotta ipo it now
20:39 mircea_popescu "But of course, cannibalism is not PC either and embracing something simply and solely on the basis that it is a “reaction” is one of the stupidest things humans can do. You can’t build a life on protest and reaction." <<< ahahaha
20:39 mircea_popescu the entire fucking left is built on reaction, from the 60s onwards.
20:39 mircea_popescu i would guess that yeah, you can't.
20:43 BingoBoingo %ticker
20:43 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
20:43 BingoBoingo %bok
20:43 BingoBoingo %b
20:43 BingoBoingo %book
20:43 atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160
20:44 moiety i sensed biscuits. i should have an IPO of bear biscuits
20:44 mircea_popescu moiety you can't possibly be privy to what i meant by biscuits ?!
20:44 moiety i don't think i am at all
20:45 moiety hence my leaps to shortbread in bear form
20:45 mircea_popescu ah yeah.
20:46 mircea_popescu ;;google cum biscuit
20:46 gribble Soggy biscuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soggy_biscuit>; Urban Dictionary: cum biscuit: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cum%20biscuit>; Urban Dictionary: soggy biscuit: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soggy%20biscuit>
20:46 moiety oh!
20:46 moiety well then, i'll be shutting up now
20:46 mircea_popescu lol
20:47 mircea_popescu anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way.
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008496 = 4.5454 BTC [+]
20:59 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
20:59 gribble Current Blocks: 307288 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16357998925.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.50716
20:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0008431 = 34.82 BTC [-] {3}
21:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.05037493 = 2.1157 BTC [-] {9}
21:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.04647775 = 2.9281 BTC [-] {14}
21:05 moiety !up chax
21:05 moiety hello
21:05 chax Howdy!
21:06 moiety :] what brings you here?
21:07 moiety lol kbai
21:07 benkay chax is working on a bitcoin-api-as-a-service thinger
21:08 moiety !up chax thought i scared you there XD
21:08 moiety thanks benkay
21:10 benkay hey chax
21:10 benkay slow sunday?
21:14 Mats_cd03 :(
21:14 benkay such connection issues...
21:14 benkay and from a SaaS vendor rep...
21:16 Mats_cd03 that title seems premature
21:16 Mats_cd03 is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today
21:17 benkay wallet api?
21:17 benkay nah
21:17 benkay don't think so
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04105652 = 0.9443 BTC [-] {7}
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04056994 = 0.6085 BTC [-]
21:35 moiety i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along
21:36 moiety have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour
21:37 benkay miserable.
21:37 kakobrekla bnc
21:37 Mats_cd03 use a bouncer.
21:38 Mats_cd03 or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud
21:41 kakobrekla yeah, you also get a nice free nsa backups with that
21:43 mircea_popescu !up Yoko__
21:49 moiety i thoughti had a bouncer built in with this and thats why i didnt timeout, will investigate
21:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.035793 = 1.7897 BTC [-] {6}
22:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.035 = 1.505 BTC [-]
22:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082942 = 8.0039 BTC [-]
22:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.033 = 5.115 BTC [-] {4}
22:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03283 = 3.283 BTC [-]
22:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00082811 = 20.6199 BTC [-]
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02200002 = 0.836 BTC [-] {7}
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.022 = 1.122 BTC [-] {4}
22:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.02131429 = 0.746 BTC [-] {2}
22:14 thestringpuller ;;ud cray
22:14 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray | No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets people going.
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.02775205 = 0.7771 BTC [-] {9}
22:21 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :(
22:21 mircea_popescu maybe.
22:22 thestringpuller maybe is better than never lol
22:36 benkay gotta have a price signal first
22:43 thestringpuller should just open up an exchange in antarctica
22:43 thestringpuller or on the moon
22:54 moiety i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually
22:54 Mats_cd03 http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081766 = 13.0826 BTC [-]
23:03 benkay tardigrade, but close
23:03 benkay tardi gribble
23:03 benkay late bots
23:13 moiety ergh! Mats_cd03! ok so maybe not that one, he looks angry! imeant this one http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01247/gribble_1247958c.jpg
23:14 moiety !up extra
23:14 moiety !up pennies
23:14 moiety !up Lycerion
23:14 extra thanks
23:14 pennies thank you
23:14 moiety you're welcome :]
23:14 Lycerion thanks
23:15 moiety np :] welcome to -assets?
23:15 moiety assets*
23:16 moiety what do you do?
23:17 extra mostly lose money trading
23:18 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/09JVD4A.txt )
23:18 benkay !b 2
23:19 benkay ;;gettrust extra
23:19 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user extra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=extra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=extra | Rated since: never
23:19 pennies so what is this place?
23:19 benkay a house of ill repute
23:19 pennies i want to be apart of this lovely place
23:19 pennies i am a seeker of lovely places
23:20 benkay ;;ident pennies
23:20 gribble Nick 'pennies', with hostmask 'pennies!423790bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.55.144.187', is not identified.
23:20 benkay i don't think apart means what you think it means, pennies
23:21 pennies why?
23:21 benkay well if one is apart from a thing one is not a part of it
23:21 benkay ;;google define apart
23:21 gribble Apart | Define Apart at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apart>; Apart - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart>; Apart from - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart%20from>
23:22 benkay to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride.
23:22 benkay but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust
23:23 benkay ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust
23:23 gribble #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>; #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>
23:27 pennies i feel unwanted
23:29 Mats_cd03 benkay is a semantic asshole, don't take it personally
23:29 benkay http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mashed-potato-spillage-closes-yorkshire-road-for-five-hours-9554812.html
23:29 assbot Mashed potato spillage closes Yorkshire road for five hours - Home News - UK - The Independent
23:29 benkay well pennies why would anyone want you?
23:29 benkay gotta d that h v
23:30 Mats_cd03 moiety: heh
23:31 moiety lol extra
23:31 extra sup moiety
23:31 benkay semantic asshole
23:32 moiety how do people find here without knowing what it is
23:32 moiety or looking at topics
23:32 extra who says I didn't read the topic
23:32 moiety not you extra, i meant pennies
23:32 moiety !up chax
23:33 extra pennies is just a retard
23:33 extra but we love him
23:33 moiety welcome back chax
23:33 moiety oh you all know each other? how so?
23:33 extra random btc trading channels
23:33 Mats_cd03 what do i look like? a poet? shit
23:34 moiety lmao at the mashed potato benkay, reminds me of the overflowing pizza dough
23:34 benkay Mats_cd03: wouldja put that in my rating pplease? "semantic asshole"
23:35 benkay i thought you'd appreciate that moiety
23:35 Mats_cd03 as it is in heaven
23:38 moiety well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :]
23:38 moiety i did benkay :D
23:41 moiety also updated guide is in the wiki
23:42 moiety hi peterl
23:42 peterl hi moiety and everybody
23:44 benkay how've you been sir
23:44 benkay !up extra
23:45 moiety kakobrekla, Mats_cd03 .. is psyBNC ok enough to use?
23:45 moiety !up Lycerion
23:45 nubbins` pbbt
23:45 thestringpuller nubbins`: what's da stats on dat shirt
23:46 benkay oh holy hell logsearch is great
23:46 thestringpuller no rush
23:46 thestringpuller is it still too late to get trackign added?
23:46 mthreat benkay: thanks!
23:46 thestringpuller yea mthreat gangsta shit
23:46 benkay mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front
23:47 mthreat oldest trick in the book
23:47 benkay ;;rate mthreat 1 knows who to pay off
23:47 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1.
23:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.0008182 = 3.5093 BTC [+]
23:48 Mats_cd03 got bored, thought I'd read last year's logs from this day
23:48 Mats_cd03 bitcoin935:voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life
23:48 Mats_cd03 bitcoin935:voorhees is going to get whats coming to him
23:48 Mats_cd03 where is your god now
23:48 thestringpuller HOLY SHIT
23:48 thestringpuller that's funny as fuck
23:49 mthreat benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right
23:49 mthreat (from the http log, i mean)
23:50 mthreat or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field
23:50 benkay yeah that's weird
23:50 benkay glad that shit's not my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
23:50 thestringpuller lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money...
23:50 thestringpuller lol
23:51 Mats_cd03 moiety: ya i have heard good things about it
23:53 thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#97671 << dayyumn
23:53 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
23:54 dub didn't it hit close to 5?
23:54 benkay no but don't get me wrong mthreat - it's awesome and i'm quite thrilled to have it
23:55 thestringpuller lol...history...fuck...gettin' old
23:55 benkay but from's behavior is totally weird
23:56 Mats_cd03 meanwhile goat brags about 4M in fiat to random
23:56 Mats_cd03 cute
23:57 mthreat benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right?
23:57 thestringpuller whatever happened to goat? Do I have to just read or can someone give me tl;dr ?
23:58 nubbins` not sure
23:58 Namworld He's living the good life in thailand I think
23:58 nubbins` still on the forums
23:58 Mats_cd03 ;;seen chaang-noi
23:58 gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> might have to sue em
23:58 thestringpuller i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that...
23:58 Namworld Pops around ever other month
23:58 Mats_cd03 lol.
23:59 thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2013#196389 << LOL!
23:59 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
23:59 benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#96976
23:59 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
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