#trilema | 2014-07-13

nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping.

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mike_c Medium rare and yummy as always :P

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!up GNULinuxGuy

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;;gettrust GNULinuxGuy

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WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user GNULinuxGuy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=GNULinuxGuy | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=GNULinuxGuy | Rated since: never

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;;rate GNULinuxGuy 1 New blood

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Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

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mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P

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i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied.

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it can be helpful, but it is sharp.

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"However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC"

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this is the lulziest shit i read all day,.

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reminds of old saying: 'eat right. exercise. die very surprised.'

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mircea_popescu I mean I ship my guns using FFL's and require permits to transfer snails across state lines :)

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mike_c I grew up on Battle.net (Blizzard Entertainment games) and I've always hung around successful people... so I don't mind getting my balls busted. It is good for me

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lol

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is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha

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i miss herbi

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BayAreaCoins let's take this one meta further.

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*prepares balls*

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the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken

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;;seen herbijudlestoids

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herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <herbijudlestoids> <3

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not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her.

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the world works exactly backwards.

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he's invented mybitcoin

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BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common.

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the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is"

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the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with"

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the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was,

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but plenty more in the same vein.

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dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive << your summary is approved. when do you quit your dayjob to do ba logs summary full time ?

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'everyone' has a use for atomic dirigible. except for the folks who can afford it.

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i dont have a day job

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buncha fucking bums in this chan

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nobody can keep a job.

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https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 << darkcoin dramz

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!up stormlight

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dead link?

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apparently they got a hard fork.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 < that work ?

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[ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | Fork for Masternode Payments!

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aye

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"Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network?

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Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin?

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Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?"

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in case you didn't know this... apparently darkcoin is a big deal. o.O

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http://www.cityam.com/1403524841/darkcoin-fails-rise-after-latest-hardfork-failure << this REALLY sounds a lot like solidcoin.

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Darkcoin fails to rise after latest hardfork failure | City A.M.

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hardfork failure?

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a new language for your new coin

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had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes."

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!up BayAreaCoins

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Ah damn, thank you sir.

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*

danielpbarron accepts bitcents 151enbTugrchY8YB8adH3rRjAHez9VFAvd

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k <3 :D

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;;calc 3600 * 24 / 512 * 25

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4218.75

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so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ?

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the magix.

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danielpbarron 0fc3075cbfb1e8cb9f1f8b114086291a79ca543a8dd2485ca11afc3ad0d395aa

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ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision.

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just for the record, sometimes the supervison sucks.

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danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ?

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mike_c agreed.

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i am not proposing to excuse the idiocy of the phb.

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lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;)

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*sarcasm*

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only took like 3 months or so i reckon

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sweet! thanks, BayAreaCoins

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Not a problem man! Thank you

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What do you guys what to see next for bitcoin that doesn't exist right now or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm?

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Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them?

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decimation he's new, give him a break.

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BayAreaCoins you're new, so nobody really knows what you';d be good at.

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that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while.

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or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto

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benkay i bet you 64.58.198.181 answers on all teh windows ports.

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webchat forwards user IP?

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this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to.

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BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on.

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No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say.

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mircea_popescu: of course it *can*. *does*, though.

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benkay excuse me for getting stoned. Gotta give me a min.. I go to bed and wake up everyday with my big boy spider man underware

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benkay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDITyYfua8

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Bernie Mac I Ain't Scared of You Mofos - YouTube

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BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot.

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mircea_popescu ya I'll get on that this week. I have a Thompson 1927-A1 coming in next week I can probably get listed and sold ASAP.

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that's not the important part there.

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mircea_popescu Ok, I'll read into it and get it taken care of.

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re: net worth of 'merican adult: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/americans-have-relatively-poor-net-wealth-cm257517

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Americans Have Relatively Poor Net Wealth - NASDAQ.com

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only 28% of us adults have over $100k

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decimation that thing uses bad real estate data.

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underwarez

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!up Graet

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lol

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;) :D lol

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:In Australia, over 65% of all adults have a net worth exceeding $100,000"

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we also have inflated property prices out the ass

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cazalla exactly.

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http://econintersect.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/z-temp3.png

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well, in May 2014 the median existing home price was $213,400 in the us http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HOSMEDUSM052N

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Median Sales Price of Existing Homes - FRED - St. Louis Fed

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this thing claims aussies are 50% richer than austrians

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Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on.

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this is ludicrous.

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kyuupichan enjoy.

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anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck

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decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per.

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"provided noone sells"

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right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house

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the median us adult is therefore a debt slave

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if you adjust those numbers for real-real estate prices, you get about 90% ish of us peeps under 1k (which is also your error, or at least mine)

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also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match

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so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value"

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ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe.

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SWEDEN.

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thing's fucking borked.

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doesn't sweden have a government minimum income

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Another blockchain spammer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7

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Bitcoin Address 1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7

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there will be an infinity of these

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http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/ << apparently nearly 50% of us households carry a credit card balance monthly

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American Household Credit Card Debt Statistics: 2014

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so they cleary have less than $0 net worth

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How to create a masternode? - Get a machine with a static ip

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this is the anon coin.

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it relies on... machines with static ips.

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decimation right.

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I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose

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decimation: truth.

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decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them).

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lol https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-401k-balance-age/ "Supposedly two-thirds of working households age 55-64 with at least one earner have retirement savings less than one times their annual income. Given the median household income is roughly $52,000, that?s not a good sign."

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The Average 401k Balance By Age

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of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions

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that leaves 10%, of which about half are expats.

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or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck

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the mood strikes.

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<- pending exile

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jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought.

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!s from: benkay darkcoin

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0 results for 'from: benkay darkcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+benkay+darkcoin

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ha.

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yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid."

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when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults

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i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"

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2 hours later i am... where's that cat gif

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http://www.artic.edu/~lfreit/catsoftheinternet/images/scared%20kitten.jpg

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re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently

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the russians halped.

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germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.

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the us is not in any top.

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!up basquiat_

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basquiat_

anyone use havelock?

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what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?

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https://unsee.cc/napube/

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Unsee — Free online private photo sharing

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decimation how do you know it didn't ?

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!s havelock

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65766 results for 'havelock' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock

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basquiat_ ^

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aw shit bad link. one sec

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are you saying the auction never took place?

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!s havelock -from:assbot

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916 results for 'havelock -from:assbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock+-from%3Aassbot

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decimation nah.

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I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k

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well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness

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vagrant destroy && vagrant up

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./provision 127.0.0.1 2222

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"okay girls, let's go!"

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#717140 you know ?

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#bitcoin-assets log

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eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above

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i really don't see a conflict.

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how's it work ?

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some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?

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you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ?

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yeah, i see that.

01:46

Bet created: "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19971884 = 1.1983 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999326 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}

~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~

02:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]

~ 22 minutes ~

03:19

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.002615 = 0.5884 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268999 = 0.538 BTC [-]

03:41

!up BayAreaCoins

~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~

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;;later tell mike_c hey, https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << after 1 year, everyone's on -

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Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 2 - War of Life

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The operation succeeded.

~ 25 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.00911084 = 0.574 BTC [-] {2}

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Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892.

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 500 @ 0.03079906 = 15.3995 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 500 @ 0.012 = 6 BTC [-] {3}

05:20

who won game 16?

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well there's no "win" per se.

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https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/activity/

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War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

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some people made a profit, some made a loss

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death mostly made a loss.

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fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice

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death beat life though right?

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the link is there

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i cant see it

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Death 5094 Life 4906

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so yeah, by like 2%

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https://btc.waroflife.com/ << see where it says "game 16 - finished" ?

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War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

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try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it

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on the where ?

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it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game

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yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely?

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anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game

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lol you lost ?!

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yes

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how the hell can you lose

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by backing the winning team. clearly

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-]

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ahahaha

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this sounds just like a buttcoin game.

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now i know it's gonna be successful.

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it all hinged on having something like bitbet's "omgwtfbbq i bet on winning side and lost!"

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lol so i peeled .33 off this satoshi dice clone thing

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dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks

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^

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this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh

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mike is wise.

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i realise that

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;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame

05:42

The operation succeeded.

05:55

more like ketamine, chances are it will put you to sleep and only people with personality issues go back for more

05:56

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 562 @ 0.0026855 = 1.5093 BTC [-]

05:58

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0176 = 0.528 BTC [+] {2}

06:10

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01832875 = 1.4663 BTC [+] {6}

06:21

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01879254 = 1.0148 BTC [+]

~ 1 hours 25 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.01264998 = 0.6072 BTC [+] {6}

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.03079906 = 1.54 BTC [-]

07:48

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.013 = 0.65 BTC [+]

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%mined

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[ATC Mined] Current: 20193280 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 7.52

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%diff

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[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 547975.01 in 879 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.21

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crying baby, fuck kill me now

07:56

;;bc,stats

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07:56

Gribble very bullish difficulty

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3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation

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Had ~ 50TH

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He'd budgeted +10% difficulty each period for rest of 2014; seems about right to me

07:59

Sell my BTC for holiday; BTC jumps 1.5%

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Small fraction of BTC, that is

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I sense increasing govt apprehension abt BTC

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holiday to where?

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cazalla: Maldives; mentioned it a while ago. Not exactly cheap, as I discovered.

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Well, it's my 14-years late honeymoon.

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i wanna piss off to angeles

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not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P

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I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected

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:)

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Though initial booking + cancellation was quite a nightmare

08:06

meh i'd still use credit card if i was doing that

08:07

cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then.

08:08

just seems a hassle, as you described

08:13

so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund?

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Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless.

08:14

predictable though

08:14

Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful.

08:15

All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date.

08:15

Expedia insist on cancel + rebook.

08:16

going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc

08:16

Sure, but I'm underweight fiat; would rather not spend it as not much left :)

08:18

BigBitz

tried Destinia.com kyuupichan?

08:21

BigBitz: No never heard of it. I used btctrip.com for flights for 2nd time without issue (bad experience with cheapair, though that seems unusual) and expedia for hotels.

08:23

Seems they don't have my hotel :(

~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~

10:02

Bet placed: 1.5502 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.06307729 BTC. Current weight: 97,814.

~ 27 minutes ~

10:30

[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1500 @ 0.0046455 = 6.9683 BTC [+] {18}

~ 28 minutes ~

10:58

http://www.mcst.ru/novyj-8yadernyj-mikroprocessor-elbrus-8c

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"ability to perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle, which provides high performance at moderate clock frequency" <- wow

11:17

dunno if this isn't itanium-like pipe dream

11:19

will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation

11:29

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.00266355 = 0.5593 BTC [-] {5}

11:30

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.00265205 = 1.0343 BTC [-] {4}

~ 27 minutes ~

11:57

!up hanbot

11:58

!up hanbot

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a ty

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that was strange

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gribble lost me so I had to reauth

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ah

11:59

What are you up to now days?

12:00

;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother.

↖

12:00

The operation succeeded.

12:00

artifexd, actually, i've been trying to write.

12:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.59579552 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1704 satoshi per share

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how about yourself?

12:02

Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster.

12:02

World Cup has us pretty busy.

12:02

bikes? cars?

12:02

software

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oh yeah.

12:03

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69116640 BTC to 11`660 shares, 14504 satoshi per share

12:06

so what do you do with the wc?

12:09

If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software.

12:13

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.02987824 = 1.5238 BTC [-]

12:13

One of my projects is a custom streaming audio server. High performance, customized streams for each client, transcodes one input to multiple output formats, blah, blah, blah.

12:14

artifexd: perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle << you can make a 'pipeline' as long as you like. it ends up mostly full of NOPs.

12:14

It isn't interesting to talk about, but advertisers love it and it is a lot of fun (and frustration) to work on.

12:14

if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation << russian, chinese, martian CPUs will be interesting when - and not before - they swear off x86 emulation.

12:15

If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing.

12:16

artifexd: exactly.

12:17

Are you speculating that it is a pipeline measurement or are you certain?

12:17

artifexd: well, the classic 'elbrus' was pipelined.

12:17

so it's a reasonable presumption. no, i don't have the manual for the new one.

12:17

Aren't all processors pipelined now?

12:18

To some degree, at least.

12:18

all but the cheapest embedded cpu

12:29

goood mornin' boys an' gals.

12:29

!up hanbot

12:30

;;gettrust assbot hanbot

12:30

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=hanbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot | Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013

12:30

lol

12:30

she asked

12:31

ahh look at the short logs.

12:32

;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.

12:33

The operation succeeded.

12:34

dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?

12:34

kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.

12:35

cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ?

12:38

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]

12:38

"The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrificuntil it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."

12:38

ah, if only they had heard of urbit.

12:38

they could have just made jets.

12:39

mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory)

12:40

right.

12:40

logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.

12:40

(how do you like my new 64 Gb Snark ?)

12:41

mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is.

12:41

sorta like howard hughes and his 'spruce goose'

12:41

well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting"

12:41

the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative"

12:42

*

asciilifeform failed to get excited

12:42

well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.

12:43

*

asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain...

12:43

i think you're right

12:44

they woefully misjudged their market position, too.

12:44

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.0121 = 1.21 BTC [-]

12:44

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]

12:45

mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc)

12:46

that too. but even should ms have had it ready on t+1minute, and if it worked splendidly (lolk, but bear with me)

12:46

the net result would have been foss+amd buldgeoning them into a fine paste.

12:47

so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way

12:47

there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway

12:47

classical example, "if only the nightcop hadn't turned around just then".

12:47

ya, right.

12:47

!up basquiat_

12:52

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 74 @ 0.0116404 = 0.8614 BTC [-] {2}

12:53

nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

12:54

!up nam-shub

12:54

trust vectored fighters are fucking cool.

12:56

does anyone have a copy of john brooks Business Adventures?

12:57

someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html

13:01

mircea_popescu: the real marvel is that itanics are still being produced.

13:02

(or at least they were, last year...)

13:02

didn't they name one after a senator or something ?

13:03

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/itanium/itanium-kittson-update.html

13:03

Intel Itanium Processors Update

13:03

afaik, a city

13:03

hm

13:03

what am i confusing it with

13:03

every single building at u.s. national institute of health?

13:04

(named after senator who disbursed some payola)

13:04

no dude

13:04

;;google poulson itanium

13:04

Itanium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium>; Intel finally releases 9500-series Itanium, announces plans to merge ...: <http://www.extremetech.com/computing/140082-intel-finally-releases-9500-series-itanium-announces-plans-to-merge-itanium-and-xeon>; Intel's Eight-Core, Heavily-Updated Poulson Itanium Breaks Cover ...: (1 more message)

13:13

;;bc,stats

13:13

13:22

was just looking at this, f.mpif pc4 stands to make almost 10% (if favored side wins on pending bets): http://i.imgur.com/g5MPhbF.png

13:24

wow srsly ?

13:24

!up hanbot

13:26

http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/

13:26

F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha

13:26

so far it's red all around tho

13:29

punkman looks pretty good imo, but yep, ruddy atm.

13:31

i'm rooting for a red card tonight

13:31

there's gotta be a red card

13:32

if not they're not even trying.

13:36

i need to stop binge watching netflix

13:39

this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted.

13:39

during the intervening month, they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.

13:40

holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know.

13:40

mircea_popescu sounds like a shrimp farmer

13:41

lol wut?

13:42

the publisher. casts a wide net, no anticipation of catching actual fish, just interested in a big mass of little bits.

13:43

oh.

13:43

jesus that must suck.

13:43

"why find a few good friends in this world, just pretend everything in it is an earthworm

13:43

i'm sure it stinks, anyway.

13:46

yeah. in the name of clutching at what they think they want, most people will put on some pretty ridiculous costumes.

13:55

BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir

13:55

cury - we have the goods and we WILL deliver.

13:55

Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech

13:55

-Tec guitar tubes)

13:55

this should be an ipo.

14:00

mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40%

14:00

wait what ?

14:02

yep, http://i.imgur.com/B4bugC5.png

14:04

can you do some more math erroring, get it to 160% ?

14:05

that "pending gain" is a best case sort of number no ?

14:05

if favored side wins, yeah

14:07

if I pick the favored side by total btc in the pot, then pending gain goes to -1.43 BTC

14:10

(todo: make stats exportable)

14:11

so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little.

14:11

hanbot good point re the bombs yeah

14:13

!up indiancandy1

14:13

o hey the crowds are getting rowdy

14:14

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/drought-shaming-pitting-neighbors-against-neighbors-on-social-media/

14:14

Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media « CBS Sacramento

14:14

mircea_popescu: yea we'll see how that goes, though hanbot's allocation of BTC is slightly better than global bitbet allocation so far.

14:14

drought shaming lol

14:15

asciilifeform ^

14:15

?

14:16

a slighly scarce resource, and there are the informants,

14:16

there are the brown brigades,

14:16

more interesting (linked from above) - http://now100fm.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/weird-news-wednesday-waitresses-wear-guns-in-restaurant << notice the stock pic - who the hell has a soviet 'TT' ?!

14:16

Weird News Wednesday: Waitresses Wear Guns In Restaurant « NOW 100.5 FM

14:16

there's the whole story. "could not happen here"

14:16

(bottom right hand corner of pic)

14:17

no, that's a cult gun

14:17

i wonder what assange thinks of btc

14:17

indiancandy1 he loves it.

14:18

http://demotivators.to/media/posters/1990/622228_luchshe-starenkij-tt-chem-dzyudo-i-karate.jpg << 'Лучше старенький ТТ чем дзюдо и карате' ~= 'better have an old TT, than judo and karate'

14:19

i dunno, they're god-awful

14:19

better than the 1890s seven-shooter that preceded it, by most accounts

14:19

some seriose protests going on in london

14:19

really bizzar

14:20

free palestine mallarky

14:21

!up stormlight

14:21

go argentina

14:21

mircea u having a wc party round urs

14:22

wonder if this is all the BTC wikileaks has now: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v

14:22

Bitcoin Address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v

14:23

punkman: just one mystery remains - why do they need coin.

14:24

indiancandy1 the whole street's a party

14:27

asciilifeform: seems like most of that was spent in December 2013

14:27

punkman: but on what

14:28

new year's party ?

14:30

im so jelous

14:30

why didnt u buy me a ticket

14:30

to come over

14:31

indiancandy1: afaik mircea_popescu expects guests to buy own ticket

14:32

his the billionair

14:32

indiancandy1 because you didn't do whatever video.

14:32

indiancandy1: (when friends visit you, do you pay their fare?)

14:32

what is 700 usd to him

14:32

im poor

14:32

i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash

14:32

o.o

14:32

camho rap, who knew this was a thing

14:32

0.0

14:32

o.0

14:33

indiancandy1 wait, are you a poor indian ?!

14:33

define poor

14:34

mthreat "i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash" ?

14:34

yap

14:34

great definition

14:35

im a poor half indian/greek

14:35

now b-a really has everything.

14:35

b a british airways?

14:35

LOL

14:35

nah this chan. bitcoin-assets

14:36

or, alternatively, buenos aires. which is why i moved here, to troll b-a

14:36

ambiguitytroling

14:36

maybe coz the electricy is cheap there

14:36

and the chicks got fat ass

14:36

the ass is nice, that's true.

14:37

ya

14:37

mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there

14:37

it is

14:37

kyuupichan no argument. but still.

14:37

ass ass ass ass

14:37

boobs?

14:38

sure.

14:39

https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ <<< wtf happened here ?

14:39

Game 17 - Death 5082 Life 4918 Year 68 - War of Life

14:39

did i just win like .87 btc ?

14:40

omg

14:40

its my birthday

14:40

:P

14:40

gift me

14:40

some

14:41

has anyone got

14:41

snapchat

14:43

mnop

14:44

have you got a smart phone mircea

14:44

or you got a stone age

14:44

1

14:44

nope

14:44

!up indiancandy1

14:44

why not

14:44

i don't like them

14:44

so how do u call ur mom

14:44

n family back home

14:45

people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ?

14:45

i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit.

14:45

indiancandy1 i have a normal phone

14:45

AND a secretary.

14:45

well, more than one actually as it turns out

14:45

does she give you bjs under the table

14:45

or he*

14:46

notrly

14:46

that's a different skillset.

14:47

i just thought u know bill clinton did it so

14:47

that was an aide.

14:47

no skillset.

14:48

aide << 'secretute'

14:48

secretute lmao

14:48

секретутка.

14:48

asciilifeform amusingly enough, tuta pl tute is how you say stupid woman in romanian

14:48

ascii are you romani aswell

14:48

well... one of the many ways

14:48

indiancandy1: nope

14:48

yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D

14:49

indiancandy1: you ought to know they ditched cyrillic there in... 1870s?

14:49

can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work

14:49

;;8ball

14:49

No.

14:50

atleast the goverment gave the gypsies all there gold back aye

14:50

*

asciilifeform saw the world's officially largest crystal ball a few days ago

↖

14:50

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_ball#mediaviewer/File:Quartz_crystal.jpg

14:50

Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

14:51

os your in dc

14:51

so*

14:51

i kind of look like a romani gypsy

14:51

indiancandy1: 10km or so

14:52

mp do u think i do

14:52

kinda

14:53

;;later tell mike_c http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aklhk/i_just_found_this_crazy_game_of_life_battle_with/ o look, making friends

14:53

I just found this crazy game of life battle with Bitcoin : Bitcoin

14:53

The operation succeeded.

14:53

people sometimes think i am

14:54

is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible

14:54

indiancandy1: maps.google.com

14:54

or macedonia

14:55

help !! my webcam is pixelated

14:55

on mfc do i fix this

14:56

you need to get a flux capacitor

14:59

any idea where i get this

14:59

;;flux capacitor

14:59

Error: "flux" is not a valid command.

14:59

;/

14:59

;;fluxcapacitor

14:59

Error: "fluxcapacitor" is not a valid command.

15:00

unrelated: anybody here own a 'Yeeloong' ?

15:01

indiancandy1 black sea ctually, but quite close anyway

15:02

asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ?

15:02

mircea_popescu: afaik it's the all-free-everything one

15:02

i thought the bios was still proprietary, lulziuly undermining the whole thing

15:03

mircea_popescu: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/PMON_2000

15:03

PMON 2000 - LinuxMIPS

15:04

that box doesn't even need much in the way of a bios. just a little bootloader stub.

15:04

wow score ?

15:04

mircea when u goin home

15:04

il meet u

15:04

cheap flights i can afford romai

15:04

the 'loongson' machine are virtually unobtainable in usa.

15:05

indiancandy1 might be a decade.

15:05

why

15:05

where is ur mom

15:05

romania

15:06

'pmon' includes built-in gdb stub, apparently. neato.

15:06

dont you go visit them

15:06

how can you not see your mom for 10years

15:06

*

asciilifeform might have to break down & pay an importer

15:06

btw did argentina win the wc then

15:07

they're playing it now

15:07

asciilifeform interesting.

15:07

*

asciilifeform wonders where stallman got his

15:08

did you get exhiled from romania

15:08

nope

15:09

i was gone for about a decade before.

15:09

asciilifeform perhaps online loongson

15:09

eh

15:09

http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/"Show%20models%201"

15:09

Show model Lemote Yeeloong 8101B 10" mini-laptop Pure White-- High-end GNU Linux mini laptop - Tekmote Electronics

15:09

300eur

15:09

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 175 @ 0.0168 = 2.94 BTC [+]

15:09

kakobrekla: that's the original. there's a nicer one, that has metallic chassis

15:09

should have dropped by NL while in RO

15:10

aha

15:10

did you not see your mom since you was 25 :(

15:10

i only left romania recently.

15:10

you mean this ascii: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-008

15:10

Loongson 3A Notebook - Tekmote Electronics

15:11

aha there it is.

15:11

kakobrekla: have one ?

15:11

nope

15:11

hm, looks like fagbook

15:12

kakobrekla: ever see a metallic chassis laptop that didn't ?

15:12

dunno

15:12

this

15:12

http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/CF-19_01.jpg

15:12

laptop market, afaik, still reduced to a choice between 'fagbook' and 'turdbook'

15:13

as long as i can hammer nails with it.

15:13

kakobrekla: that's the u.s. mil spec machine. it's mostly plastic.

15:13

really?

15:13

and ludicrously heavy

15:13

lol

15:13

you can get them by the crate, surplus. nobody wants.

15:14

at any rate, 'loongson' isn't interesting because of the mechanicals.

15:14

this too? http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dell-e6420-XFR_g2_edited-1.jpg

15:14

i see some bolts

15:14

hmmm

15:14

from the topside

15:14

should be alu no?

15:14

can't say i ever used one of these

15:14

!up indiancandy1

15:15

thanks ascii

15:15

anyway, you CAN indeed make it alu and not look like fagbook

15:15

may look like toaster instead

15:15

but point achieved.

15:15

*

asciilifeform wants a 'sovbook'

15:18

lol

15:18

so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide

15:18

video

15:18

freaked me right out

15:19

come on, Germany!

15:19

60% possession.

15:20

well there we go

15:20

some movement

15:21

mircea_popescu: you back in Argentina? what's the buzz on the street like?

15:22

fluffypony yeah. pretty loud.

15:22

I can imagine

15:22

you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc.

15:23

whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help)

15:23

crazy

15:24

they shot some pretty respectable cherry bombs in the few hours runup

15:24

(during which the street was packed with people waiting for the game to start)

15:24

sounds wonderful

15:25

u should join the festivities

15:25

i'd rather listen to blur in concert.

15:26

heroin addicts

15:26

lavely

15:26

but so yea can you see this video

15:26

and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room

15:26

my producer is telling me its a spirit orb

15:27

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 202 @ 0.0132 = 2.6664 BTC [-] {3}

15:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd8Wm7AOI3U

15:27

YouTube

15:29

o wow.

15:29

score eh ?

15:29

wait.

15:30

these people blew their fucking top off because a german got a yellow card ?

15:30

im fucking scared now.

15:30

lol

15:30

tense moment

15:32

did u see the orb

15:32

indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no

15:33

fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ?

15:33

this is like the 3rd time.

15:33

mircea_popescu: no not yet - I pay it and its reflected immediately every time I use it

15:33

same with Bitpay on Namecheap

15:34

I wonder if it's not trying to update via some ajax call and you've disabled js so it doesn't update?

15:34

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.02890175 = 1.2139 BTC [-]

15:35

possible i guess

15:35

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 67 @ 0.01607462 = 1.077 BTC [+] {4}

15:35

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]

15:35

kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug

15:35

if you refresh the page does it show up as paid?

15:35

(actually, more like i won't bother, it's not worth the occasional 5 bux to me.

15:35

if however it was a systemic problem, then yes)

15:35

mnop

15:35

waq

15:36

;;ud waq

15:36

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WAQ | acronym for What A Queer. usually used in texts or photo comments. David sure does like to kneel in weird positions... WAQ!!! by squash89 April 25, 2011. 19 6.

15:37

hah hah

15:37

it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack

15:37

;;ud wack

15:37

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wack | Example 1: Tracy: I'm all that and a bag of chips!..and then some! Rob: Shut yo wack ass up!.. and gets off my Grill. Example 2: Tracy: What did u do last night?

15:38

fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx.

15:39

you ever did that ? owe for say a dozen jobs, pay out in 1 tx ?

15:39

no I haven't - only ever done 1 at a time

15:39

hm.

15:39

well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then.

15:40

omfg so close

15:40

specifically, n-1 pages update and ty for the payment. but the nth... nope

15:44

the Germans are all over the Argentinian goal

15:47

yeah doesn't look so good for em

15:51

mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime

15:52

"Jeff Garzik @jgarzik · 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it."

15:53

lol someone's reading b-a logs from last year ?

15:53

cazalla a ok then :p

15:54

wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga.

15:55

fluffypony this thing's going to penalty.

15:56

anyway it doesnt work. they dont roi even if you run them 24/7 and heaters you dont.

15:57

mircea_popescu: yeah I think so too

15:57

kakobrekla it'll work when the tech is stable.

15:58

stable over 10 years ?

15:58

right.

15:58

yeah.

15:58

it'll happen, in spite of all the derpage re qc.

15:58

in year 25 000 000

15:58

;;tslb

15:58

Time since last block: 2 minutes and 54 seconds

15:58

kakobrekla coupla decades.

15:58

wow bets365 add on Sky Sport gives you live betting odds (well 30 seconds old)

15:58

*ad

15:59

the biggest problem with that idea is that we prolly wont be computing on silicone then

15:59

you can hardly heat up anything with wetware for example

15:59

i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it.

15:59

and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work.

16:00

there won't be any qc computing. ever.

16:00

and so in 2050ish, it'll make prefect sense to put in a water heater cum btc miner.

16:01

principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available

16:01

qc would make for a good longbet

16:01

punkman my qc longbet is btc itself.

16:01

mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P

16:02

ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that.

16:02

yup

16:02

all heating is temporary anyway.

16:03

id still bet this wont happen on a mass scale.

16:04

window too small.

16:04

kakobrekla what do you think you'll heat yourself with in 2050 ? dead jews ?

16:04

very small rocks ?

16:04

memories of the great patriotic war ?

16:04

prolly depends on the btc price.

16:04

humanity has no future outside of electricity anyway.

16:06

ideally id have something like personal Toshiba 4S

16:09

small nuclear reactors aren't really worth it.

16:09

just build 100ish gw and be done with it

16:11

but then the neighbors notice.

16:11

what neighbours

16:11

:)

16:24

another yellow card, wtf

16:30

yellow card all the people!

16:36

did germany score ?

16:36

hm. no. street ppl just got pissed off.

16:40

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01385 = 0.554 BTC [+]

~ 42 minutes ~

17:23

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-eyes-argentine-energy-third-stop-latam-tour-175220992.html;_ylt=AwrBEiLGTcJTIl8AKwvQtDMD

17:23

Putin, Kirchner seek 'multipolarity' in Argentina visit - Yahoo News

17:23

lol

17:25

FINALLY!

17:25

holy fuck

17:31

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18529443 = 0.9265 BTC [-]

17:39

and that's that

17:41

germans you know ?

17:41

tired them the fuck out, so they could get that shot at the end

17:44

riots begun?

17:44

they actually seem kinda peacible

17:44

i think they didn't really think they'll make it to the finals anyway

17:45

nazis extradited yet?

17:47

lol

17:58

!up Belsage

18:00

consolation prize: "at least we weren't humiliated like those Brazilians"

18:01

apparently messi gets golden ball ?

18:14

;;seen moiety

18:14

moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <moiety> kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out

~ 15 minutes ~

18:29

http://i.imgur.com/y202CiZ.jpg

18:30

what a shitlord

18:31

odds of it being meta... 9:2 ?

18:32

50% of 4chan is JIDF and the other half are people trolling each other

18:32

the german player's name was götse. i can't beleive we are't seeing goatse memes

18:33

!up qazwsxedcrfv

18:33

;;ud jdif

18:33

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o...

18:33

;;ud jidf

18:33

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o...

18:33

o i see, they're oppressing jewish dyslexuals.

18:36

mthreat http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556424659

18:36

/b/ - Random

18:37

/pol/ > /b/

18:44

qazwsxedcrfv

so, where can I short LTC?

18:45

wow, i thought you were trolling that messi won golden ball

18:47

cazalla ikr ?

18:47

;;gettrust qazwsxedcrfv

18:47

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user qazwsxedcrfv: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=qazwsxedcrfv | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=qazwsxedcrfv | Rated since: never

18:47

you don't.

18:49

<mircea_popescu> ... they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.<< was it coindesk? they were target of phishing and it looked exactly like this.

18:52

BIDF!

18:52

http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556417895#q556417895

18:52

/b/ - Random

19:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]

19:04

http://i.4cdn.org/b/1405290535657.png ahaha this is too fucking lulzy.

19:06

pol already attacked tumblr the other week, many were triggered, a few suicides too

19:07

i can't remember what /pol/ is

19:07

politics

19:07

really more trolling white knights and marxists

19:08

a

19:08

odd jew as well

19:08

http://ohpi.org.au/4chans-pol-and-the-trouble-with-dean/ there is an aussie jew who takes the bait

19:08

Online Hate Prevention Institute » 4Chan’s /pol/ and the Trouble with Dean

19:10

i have trolls remorse for poor ben garrison

19:10

"Online Hate Prevention Institute " ?!

19:11

what the fuck, this should be on kickstarter.

19:13

wait, the humourless fuck that made a cartoon in which some guy holding a guy fawkes mask is told by the mask, prophetically!11 "you are not as anon as you tihnk" complains that he doesn't understand why people deface his crap ?!

19:13

i saw that thing and my first thought was to deface it. because it's so fucking square, that's why.

19:14

already been done

19:14

same thing that makes you want to punch a mongoloid kid makes you want to deface this guy's cartoon

19:14

and for the same fucking reason, i would imagine.

19:15

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1400/82/1400820980987.png

19:15

Human verification - 4plebs archive

19:15

there's a few hilarious versions around, the shit they did to ben garrison is probably the lulziest shit i've ever seen online

19:16

lol

19:16

poor bastard actually has a disclaimer on his website that no, he isn't the author of the anti semetic versions

19:17

which are actually better than his own work,

19:17

and made him famous

19:17

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02890175 = 2.8902 BTC [-]

19:17

pretty much

19:18

ahaha this article...

~ 25 minutes ~

19:44

"Those like Dean need to be held accountable and 4chan and /pol/ in particular, need to look after their own shop. An online space with a little more freedom is a good thing, but its up to the community itself to warn people like Dean off when they go too far. "

19:44

epic. "a little freedom" ? "too far" ?

19:44

lolk.

19:50

just got banned from #bitcoin http://danielpbarron.com/lol.txt

19:51

nice domain.

19:52

!up hanbot

19:52

why ty

19:55

http://i.imgur.com/ojqQQe9.png << someone should ipo the ice sun.

19:59

;;ud mfw

19:59

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mfw | >mfw gerrard scored a goal against the us after 4 minutes. by unowiel June 12, ... MFW utilize reaction images and are almost always green text. ANON: What do ...

20:00

heh, my new -1 for gmaxwell caused him to lose the ability to !up himself http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=assbot&dest=gmaxwell

20:00

#bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph

20:00

;;seen gmaxwell

20:00

gmaxwell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <gmaxwell> thestringpuller: because he's nice for ten minute spans of time, and evades the bans and not everone knows about this BS.

20:00

well fwtw.

20:04

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.002728 = 0.5183 BTC [+]

20:04

!s evades the bans

20:04

1 results for 'evades the bans' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=evades+the+bans

20:05

looks like a hole in the logs.

20:06

log's date formats are by month

20:06

gribble returns seen by years and weeks

20:06

well yes, 2years ago. proly mthreat didn't get around to parsing the old stuff he got

20:06

*shrug* who even knows

20:07

the impedance mismatch between gribbles dates and the log dateformat makes for friction.

20:07

http://i.imgur.com/gu40OjO.png

20:08

who the fuck does this. fuck first, then put condom on ?!

20:11

http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1343323/WTF

20:11

WTF 4chan

20:11

not everyone choses to live where everyone has aids

20:12

mircea_popescu: ya I was waiting for one guy who may have the logs from 2 years ago with no holes. I think his nickname begins with "A" but I can't remember it

20:12

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/dash-con-controversy-tumblr/

20:12

Over the course of a weekend, DashCon 2014 descended into chaos

20:13

megascam apparently.

20:13

a guy from 2 years ago ?!

20:14

http://imgur.com/gallery/hqWD9 scam related.

20:14

Anon discusses Dashcon. - Imgur

20:14

mircea_popescu: maybe it was Azelphur

20:14

apparently bitcoin is not exceptional wrt bagholders and their behaviour

20:15

mthreat a that could be lessee.

20:15

Azelphur yo! logs ?

20:16

who what where?

20:16

also got takeaway arriving in a second, so might disappear :)

20:17

Azelphur: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014#728423

20:17

#bitcoin-assets log

20:17

chan logs from 2012, you were gonna give to mthreat

20:17

Azelphur: if you have logs, I'd love them, to backfill search.b-a :)

20:19

mthreat: Uploading, will be available at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/misc/2014/Jul/bitcoin-assets.zip once the upload is complete.

20:19

Not Found

20:19

oh, it already completed, that was fast.

20:20

sometimes I forget the wonders of my fancy new fibre connection.

20:20

cool danke!

20:21

Azelphur: downloading, thanks!

20:22

mircea_popescu: you were right about my business endeavours btw :)

20:22

*

Azelphur goes back to thinking about how to not suck at making money

20:22

lol

20:22

hey, i actually got something for you.

20:22

things! \o/

20:22

go on? :)

20:22

how about you implement that bitcoin register thing ?

20:22

bitcoin register thing?

20:22

ok lemme find it

20:23

!s name in the spec

20:23

1 results for 'name in the spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=name+in+the+spec

20:23

Azelphur http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718931

20:23

#bitcoin-assets log

20:24

what's b-a?

20:24

bitcoin assets?

20:24

yea

20:24

brb, pizza is here

20:29

<Azelphur> mircea_popescu: you were right about my business endeavours btw :) < ah, the powers of ba.

20:29

kakobrekla you know how many times a day i get that ?

20:30

which part

20:30

"o and btw, you were right about x business idea/venture/partner/whatever"

20:30

mhm

20:30

it's kinda why i stick around here, megaegoboost

20:30

mircea_popescu: well, to be fair you were only partially right, you said he was gonna screw me over and he didn't :P

20:30

he did however take one too many drugs and end up dead :<

20:30

o.O

20:31

yeah i guess i was.... partially right.

20:31

*

mircea_popescu backs away slowly

20:31

xD

20:31

anyway shall munch my pizza then read through the log :)

20:31

enjoe.

20:32

kakobrekla btw, do you know what's the SECOND most common thing i get ?

20:33

do tell

20:33

i guess ima mail you too.

20:35

check customer support.

20:36

:)

20:37

she's coming to visit. alas... you won't be here. because somalia.

20:40

her loss!

20:41

she's loose not lossy.

20:45

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.002721 = 0.5442 BTC [-]

20:47

mircea_popescu: seems like a fun idea, although it doesn't really solve my "not sucking at making money" problem :P

20:48

usure ?

20:48

nubbins`

not sucking at making money is a problem?

20:48

nubbins`: no, but sucking at making money is ;)

20:49

step 1: admitting you have a problem

20:49

sucking makes money.

20:49

mircea_popescu: I dunno, I guess the monthly sub thing could work towards making some money, also what's assbots l2?

20:49

Azelphur but seriously, it has a fee attached. that makes money.

20:49

step 2: ba logs.

20:49

or do you want to make a lot of money fast ?

20:49

;;gettrust assbot azelphur

20:49

Currently authenticated from hostmask Azelphur!~Azelphur@azelphur.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user azelphur: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=azelphur | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=azelphur | Rated since: Mon Apr 9 00:11:58 2012

20:49

Level 2: 5 via 5 connections.

20:49

oh right, level 2 connections

20:49

ayup

20:50

mircea_popescu: who doesn't want to make a lot of money fast

20:50

;)

20:50

<syntheticsky> anyone interested in starting a new altcoin based on the concept of strong artificial intelligence? I run an AI project. please /join #syntheticsky if interested

20:50

<syntheticsky> or email me at synthetic.sky@gmx.de

20:50

<syntheticsky> as as I can't stay online

20:50

i think if you ask nicely kako may share the code of how he tests it

20:50

benkay lets jkoin then

20:50

mircea_popescu: tests what?

20:50

(crayballs altcoiners)

20:50

Azelphur the l2ness

20:50

oh, that's easy to test

20:51

kk

20:51

reusing code has the advantage that bugs may be found

20:51

especially valuable if kako wrote it

20:52

testing in production...twice!

20:52

*

Azelphur shrugs

20:52

depends what language its in

20:52

php

20:52

yea...pass

20:52

xD

20:52

php on bungee rope

20:52

the competitor to ruby on rails.

20:53

probably going to win by virtue of inertia

20:53

mircea_popescu: been doing this kinda thing since before my balls had dropped, I'm sure I can manage ;)

20:53

my php made more btc than your python or whatever.

20:53

asciilifeform ever linked you to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVtapIMHTXs ?

20:53

Viata de care noi nu stim - YouTube

20:53

kakobrekla: doubt it :P

20:53

i dont.

20:54

kinda not a language-level thing, the profitability of an operation.

20:54

^

20:54

lies.

20:54

orly? story time?

20:55

no lol

20:55

thats the point

20:55

it what comes out of it.

20:55

its*

20:56

http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10514163_10153083113518569_5085828363159786149_o.jpg

20:56

so much downs in that lineup

20:57

haha

20:57

are you an internet troll making blind unidimensional blackness, dub ?

20:58

mike_c https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/activity/#bomb_payments << all three big bombs life ? srsly ?

20:58

War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

20:58

SCAM!

20:59

the blockchain is scamming, not me.

20:59

blame the miners

20:59

btw, seen hanbot's rehash idea ?

21:00

no

21:01

hm grible eats last tells

21:01

!s rehash

21:01

39 results for 'rehash' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rehash

21:01

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2014#753871

21:01

#bitcoin-assets log

21:07

"- Tumblr user kirbeh described hotel mints being given away at a panel as competition prizes."

21:07

no srsly, the neobees of this world gotta learn from this dashcom thing

21:07

i mean this is even cheaper than the bitcoin foundation prizepool.

21:09

"- None of the main convention organizers appear to have a background in fan conventions or similar events. DashCon owners Megan Eli and Roxanne Schwieterman are a novelist with 15 years of business experience and a 20-year-old with a degree in hospitality management, respectively."

21:13

well, more like why even bother worry about it. the odds of that happenning are zero.

21:14

it ?

21:14

rehash on edge case

21:15

a. because the sort of people who want to play this are ocd types

21:15

and you don't want to put that sort of copy in front of ocd types.

21:15

it grates.

21:16

;;calc 0.04633 ** 20

21:16

0

21:16

indeed gribble

21:16

lol

21:17

2.07 x 10 ^ -27

21:17

srsly, the world will be invaded by aliens a billion times over before that happens

21:18

and i do handle it, not like the game blows up

21:20

aite, i guess it can be a point of argument then. gotta give users something to complain about

21:20

which reminds me, chatbox ?

21:20

i could drop in an iframe with freenode web chat :)

21:21

i've thought of a couple different chat mechanisms. JD's chat box always seemed like a negative to me

21:21

did you ever spend any time in there?

21:21

originally.

21:21

but a freenode drop seems ideal to me.

21:23

;;later tell punkman yes.. something in that area is needed.

21:23

The operation succeeded.

21:24

it's hard to have a "your bets" thing, because it's all on the blockchain. but i could let you mark arbitrary bets as yours and then track those.

21:25

;;g kiwi irc

21:25

Error: "g" is not a valid command.

21:25

;;google kiwi irc

21:26

KiwiIRC - The webIRC client: <https://kiwiirc.com/>; Kiwi IRC | Embedding: <https://kiwiirc.com/embedding>; prawnsalad/KiwiIRC · GitHub: <https://github.com/prawnsalad/KiwiIRC/>

21:26

that one is also not bad

21:27

that will do nicely

21:27

thx

21:29

http://fanlore.org/wiki/When_a_Fan_Hits_the_Shit

21:29

When a Fan Hits the Shit - Fanlore

21:29

there is SO MUCH idiocy on the internet i had happily ignored

21:30

and it all fucking moved into btc.

21:30

and then i sit here and wonder wtf do all these idiots come from.

21:30

why, lj. tumblr. the con scene. this that and the fucking other.

21:34

meh, think my phone is proper dead

21:42

mircea_popescu: have you seen house of cards?

21:55

i'm being attacked

21:55

this guy's got balls

22:01

Duffer1: ?

22:03

they somehow got my unique email pw

22:03

used it to reset my coinbase password

22:03

then tried to call my cell phone company to set up call forwarding

22:04

my unique random generated 25 alpha/num email pw, how does someone get that?

22:05

how were they able to change coinbase pw when i have 2fa enabled

22:05

wtf

22:05

keylogger?

22:06

2fa lasts 30 seconds; if someone were watching live, they could use it as you type it. <-- ultra paranoid

22:06

holy heck

22:07

i've got my bank account on lockdown, regained control of my compromised email for now

22:07

i need to figure how they got it so they don't regain control

22:09

I want to put this as the background of a good song remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYrYCE4i1c&feature=share

22:09

(Audiobook) The Original Bitcoin White Paper by Satoshi Nakamoto - YouTube

22:10

22:09:41 CTCP VERSION reply from Duffer1: HexChat 2.9.6 [x64] / Windows 7 [2.81GHz] << there's your problem

22:10

windoes or hexchat?

22:11

did the bold not show up? (windows)

22:12

the name highlight may have overridden the bold

22:16

seriously though, just windows?

22:17

how did they know my phone service provider

22:18

if they hav your email, they can find it out?

22:18

if you receive email from provider

22:18

it's not associated, the service is even in my moms name

22:18

which is why they weren't successful in setting up call forwarding

22:23

idk man, I don't trust ubuntu; I can't even imagine trying to feign security on a windows machine

22:25

Duffer1: if you are concerned the machine is compromised you should pull the network cable and never plug it back in.

22:26

that's the thing, i have no idea what was compromised

22:27

well you have some idea: your email was compromised apparently

22:28

email and coinbase and almost cell phone carrier

22:28

mircea_popescu:dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ? << sometimes there is: https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/

22:28

Game 11 - Death 9097 Life 903 Year 1000 - War of Life

22:28

what's the commonality?

22:28

computer.

22:31

should i get a new HD or am I ok with just a new OS?

22:31

lol

22:31

Duffer1: Hard dives are cheap

22:31

no i know, i've just never been compromised like this before, they didn't get anything, but still that's scary as fuck

22:34

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 285 @ 0.002729 = 0.7778 BTC [+] {2}

22:36

anyone else have access to your machine?

22:36

đđđđđđ

22:36

ops.

22:36

gotta change the password now!

22:37

nah just me and i'm here 24/7, also I run keyscrambler

22:37

i suspect they called comcast and got some tier one wanker to reset pw

22:38

i can't figure out how they got coinbase though unless coinbase itself is compromised

22:44

Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.38923557 BTC. Current weight: 94,456.

22:45

;;ticker

22:45

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 627.71, Best ask: 629.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.27000, Last trade: 630.0, 24 hour volume: 3803.10216359, 24 hour low: 626.09, 24 hour high: 638.73, 24 hour vwap: 632.752522547

22:49

danielpbarron: why don't you trust ubuntu? (that's what I use)

22:50

cazalla: Because the history of White Africans is one steeped in failure probably

22:56

BingoBoingo: what's a better alternative for a novice?

22:56

Maybe Linux mint debian edition. Alternately Scientific Linux.

22:58

i should probably put in the effort to learn a little more eh

22:59

;;ident Duffer1

22:59

Nick 'Duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~Duffer1@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is identified as user 'Duffer1', with GPG key id D5B0A00741A54A60, key fingerprint 68D283ADB0688306D98C5BE0D5B0A00741A54A60, and bitcoin address 1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG

22:59

Duffer1: Are your gpg key and bitcoin wallet secure? How do we know that you are really you?

23:02

cazalla, it's too popular; it's focus is on spready adoption rather than security

23:03

I use it too; that's why I singled it out of all the other *nix variants

23:12

mike_c rare tho

23:14

cazalla: For pure ease of use some Debian derivative will prolly cause you the least headaches

23:15

artifexd afaik my gpg key wasn't compromised, but i have know way to confirm, my bitcoins are safe, i don't have anything online or on my comp

23:16

Still, it might be a good idea to put sweeping all your wallets and changing your gribble keys on your cleanup todo list.

23:17

fuck you're right

23:18

Sweeping to a paper wallet is first on my "what to do when shit is suspicious" list.

23:18

i'm already on paper, but i'll probably have to change gpg info

23:19

with what machine was the paper created?

23:19

offline laptop, i bought it for that purpoes

23:19

You also have a bitcoin address registered with gribble.

23:19

purpose

23:19

nice

23:20

ya i take my shit seriously, which is why i'm surprised they got as far as they did

23:20

I made my paper wallet with an abacus in a steel shielded room.

23:20

With the lights off.

23:20

hehe

23:21

I hope I didn't miss a bead.

23:21

Well, windows is a limiting factor on how serious you can be

23:21

indeed

23:21

i don't get it then; you have an offline machine for your BTC but you keep your gpg key on the online windows thing?

23:22

yea

23:22

although you don't have that much in your gpg identity yet; 2 ratings

23:23

yea pretty much convenience vs security on that one

23:24

Someone is also much more likely to try to steal a wallet than a gpg key.

23:24

maybe they have to get one to get the other

23:24

gpg key compromise can be recovered from. Once your coins fly, they're gone.

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thestringpuller nope.

23:25

lol.. losing your gpg key could very well equal losing your coins.. plus more

23:25

<Duffer1> this guy's got balls << who ?

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danielpbarron they're unrelated for me at least

23:25

evil people, they don't like leaving me alone :(

23:26

<Duffer1> wtf << 2fa is shit. otherwise sounds like you got a keylogger.

23:26

i use a program that encrypts every keystroke at the driver level

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Duffer1: Why? Dunno what purpose a program like that can serve.

23:27

to prevent keylogging - even if they had hardware access to my machine they shouldn't be able to log

23:27

<Duffer1> i suspect they called comcast and got some tier one wanker to reset pw << now this is also possible.

23:28

Duffer1 think. at some point your machine sees the keys.

23:28

yep. a chrome extension, for example, doesn't care about your hardware

23:29

you're right

23:29

atm i'm building a list of everything that needs to change, it's long

23:29

The thing is this Encrypt the keystrokes to beat keyloggers turd smells like pure security theatre and little else

23:30

also what danielpbarron said. ffs, srsly ? make a key on the airgapped laptop and get a qr gun for cryssakes.

23:30

they're like $20

23:30

no idea how to do that

23:31

you buy the qr gun. you plug it into your windoze machine.

23:31

you decrypt whatever on the laptop, and use the gun to read the screen

23:32

that's pretty clever lol

23:32

or w/e, you can just take pics with a camera. you got a camera don't you ?

23:32

ocr is free basically.

23:32

ocr?

23:32

;;ud ocr

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OCR | Optical Character Recognition. Used in computing terminology. Actually, is a computer software designed to translate images of typewritten text int...

23:32

i see

23:32

;;ddg duckduckgo workie?

23:32

Error: "ddg" is not a valid command.

23:33

just curious

23:33

you can make !ddg if you want

23:33

tho what'd be really useful would be a translate.

23:33

google fucked up api access to gt

23:34

https://twitter.com/x__LaBellaVita/status/488503917387325441 < check out all the mike_c fan chicks coming out of the woodwork

23:35

it looks like google translate is a paid service (for API) - https://developers.google.com/translate/v2/pricing

23:35

Pricing - Google Translate API — Google Developers

23:35

$20 per 1M characters of tet

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*text

23:35

hm.

23:35

reasonable I guess

23:35

i'll pay the $20 if you want to add it.

23:36

how does one update the ! bot

23:36

!s hm ?

23:36

828 results for 'hm ?' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hm+%3F

23:37

o it goes through assbot. i forgot, somehoiw thought you had rolled your own bot

23:37

%d

23:37

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 542762.62 in 812 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.87

23:37

%t

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%ob

23:37

[X-BT] Bid: 221 Ask: 278 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 22k High: 224 Low: 221 VWAP: 223

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45k@282 722@279 30k@278 | 84k@221 300k@220 45k@201

23:37

nanotube hey, if i pay the google translate api thing, you bring back gribble translate ?

23:38

!up copumpkin

23:38

sup

23:38

not much

23:38

you know how to voice yourself ? i forget.

23:38

haven't been in here since voicing was a thing, so nope :)

23:38

pm assbot !up while authed.

23:38

is my ISP fucked or is mpex down?

23:38

it's down.

23:38

ah

23:39

http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-status-update/

23:39

MPEx status update pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

23:39

onoes!

23:39

ya well.

23:40

!up AndrewJackson

23:40

lol. cellular automata gets all the chicks

23:40

mircea_popescu: well, good luck with that! I'm going to bed, just wanted to check in :)

23:41

laters.

23:42

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 266 @ 0.00272903 = 0.7259 BTC [-] {2}

23:42

https://twitter.com/sigwinch/status/488490541760671744

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ibressh.org uses the IP number 217.70.184.38 only which also vente-cuisines-contemporaines-salondeprovence.com , en-bord-de-champs.com , gdlindustries.com and

23:43

gld industries eh ?

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