| 00:00 |
BingoBoingo |
.d |
| 00:00 |
ozbot |
4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1845 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.5056% in 11d 11h 7m 10s |
| 00:02 |
benkay` |
chetty: why'd they do that? |
| 00:03 |
MisterE |
War with Russia will be good for the economy |
| 00:04 |
MisterE |
benkay`: Chinese hate things they can not control |
| 00:04 |
BingoBoingo |
MisterE: Prolly for the BTC ecomony and the remibi. Shit for the others though |
| 00:17 |
BingoBoingo |
cablepair is back https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66851.msg778189#msg778189 |
| 00:19 |
VanCleef |
that's why china likes america |
| 00:19 |
benkay` |
http://thenitai.com/2014/03/12/why-you-might-not-want-to-incorporate-in-the-usa/ |
| 00:19 |
ozbot |
Why you might not want to incorporate in the USA | The Nitai (there can only be one) |
| 00:21 |
benkay` |
yuuuuuup. |
| 00:21 |
benkay` |
all forces are arrayed against starting a company here. |
| 00:22 |
benkay` |
we picked up a contractor from an associate's shop that had folded, and immediately (despite not hiring the man), got a fat packet of mail from the state about this gentleman's employment status asking us all sorts of inane questions. |
| 00:22 |
benkay` |
i don't even wat |
| 00:23 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://imgur.com/a/EOghf |
| 00:23 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 00:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07799118 = 0.234 BTC [+] |
| 00:37 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/13/an-overview-of-betable-sports-part-2-basketball/ |
| 00:37 |
ozbot |
An Overview of Betable Sports Part 2: Basketball | Bingo Blog |
| 00:49 |
benkay |
davout i need more cello :( |
| 00:50 |
chetty |
http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/12/the-jailbird-crimes-on-twitter-have-soared-by-390-per-cent-4548653/ |
| 00:50 |
ozbot |
The jailbird: Crimes on Twitter have soared by 390 per cent | Metro News |
| 01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Let's get ready for some transaction spam https://twitter.com/supertyler/status/444225344644857857 |
| 01:01 |
MisterE |
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/13/xapo-raises-20-million-to-bury-your-bitcoin-underground/ |
| 01:01 |
ozbot |
Xapo Raises $20 Million To Bury Your Bitcoin Underground | TechCrunch |
| 01:03 |
lnovy |
transaction reversibility, oh boy... |
| 01:04 |
benkay |
"It is not clear exactly what part social media played in the crimes. |
| 01:04 |
benkay |
|
| 01:04 |
benkay |
But Kent police, which investigated 3,528 crimes involving Facebook and 191 related to Twitter last year, gave one example where two women posted pictures online of themselves with stolen hubcaps." |
| 01:04 |
benkay |
so - poor people are flocking to social media and bringing their poor habits with them i gather. |
| 01:04 |
benkay |
among them, theft. |
| 01:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Seems like it |
| 01:07 |
chetty |
people are people |
| 01:08 |
MisterE |
seems like it |
| 01:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Is anyone else here developing a visceral dislike of medium.com blogs? |
| 01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
| 01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking js cruft everywhere |
| 01:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Great story, shit layout http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/3/12/5496096/james-scott-jailhouse-boxer-profile |
| 01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not a bad read that. glosses over some stuff, but at least it glosses over different stuff from the usg propaganda machine |
| 01:14 |
BingoBoingo |
HTML for content, CSS for layout and formating, JS for optional dohickeys |
| 01:15 |
MisterE |
what is not a bad read mircea_popescu ? |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/10/ukraine-the-sovereignty-argument-and-the-real-problem-of-fascism |
| 01:15 |
ozbot |
Ukraine: The Sovereignty Argument, and the Real Problem of Fascism » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, |
| 01:15 |
MisterE |
ty |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
dexx jesus the butthurt with that woman is phenomenal. what happened to "i've been a stupid cunt and all it took you folks was five minutes to make it obvious. you're awesome thank you so much for taking the time!" |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess they don't teach that in self-affirmative-shiteater classes for womenz in tech and other important things huh. |
| 01:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I find amazing that in spite of a decade and a half of shitfits related to "extremist groups" whose membership never exceeds the hundreds, actual instability still comes from nation-states whose membership numbers in the millions to the hundreds of millions |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
not rly in spite. |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
if your wife suddenly throws a jealousy fit out of the blue, you know she's just been cheating. |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
even braindead bitcointalk scammers know enough of the world to be screaming thief while stealing. |
| 01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Or she cut out the implanon in her shoulder that was there to ward off the scammzor babies |
| 01:22 |
mircea_popescu |
Azelphur: yea, that's why I think an alarm would be better, that at least gets the attention of people around you << so they can join in ? |
| 01:23 |
Azelphur |
mircea_popescu: hehe, I still think people aren't all assholes ;) |
| 01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
repressive society tho. completely different environment. |
| 01:23 |
Azelphur |
yea, guess so |
| 01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Actual anti-rape device http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/74629 |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
this notion that a woman is a person is very novel and very strange, and rather limited geographically. notwithstanding what western progressives would like to pretend. |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
in most of the world, woman chiefly still means head of cattle. |
| 01:25 |
lnovy |
I'll just leave it here... http://youtu.be/D1XPS-j-O24 |
| 01:25 |
mircea_popescu |
the only way that's changing is once it becomes more productive economically to work than to procreate, which is probably an euphemism for never |
| 01:26 |
Azelphur |
lnovy: haha |
| 01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Depends a great deal on the woman |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo less than you'd think. humans are programmable, and women eminently so. |
| 01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Anti-gang rape device, suitable for buses http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec-PMR30-2.htm |
| 01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
a gun ? |
| 01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Well, for some circumstances. |
| 01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
I assume the women who would use it would be untrainable |
| 01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
think full metal jacket. you see a bunch of women in there with gunnery sargeant gomer pyle ? |
| 01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Might be more valuable operating the missiles, or as officers commanding the mine grunts |
| 01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
it takes six fucking months to break down the male blocks on killing, and even then it only works sorta 50-50. |
| 01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
and that's old 1970s data. by now... i'd be surprised if one kid out of ten ever becomes a useful soldier. |
| 01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
You see mor women killing with less hesitation in 2009 than you really had before since Joan of arc |
| 01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
And more the killing happens less in useful soldier applications |
| 01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. |
| 01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
this on tv or irl ? |
| 01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
IRL, I've got lots of antidotes, but nothing I can feed a stats machine |
| 01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Male acquaitance killed a lot of goats and no people on a deployment, because everyone else was shooting |
| 01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092 |
| 01:31 |
ozbot |
Men, women, and murder: gender-specific differences... [J Trauma. 1992] - PubMed - NCBI |
| 01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Female acquaintance killed a lot of people because they were unfuckable |
| 01:31 |
lnovy |
Are those really comparable? It's bit different to kill and to kill as a soldier, no? |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
A total of 215,273 homicides were studied, 77% of which involved male victims and 23% female victims. Although women comprise more than half the U.S. population, they committed only 14.7% of the homicides noted during the study interval. |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lnovy yes, in the sense that it's much easier as a solider. |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
basically murder works exactly like siegel indicated : "we don't kill mooks, we just off each other" |
| 01:33 |
lnovy |
I don't share that view... homicides are not always coldblooded killing... |
| 01:33 |
lnovy |
uncontrolable soldier is mostly useless |
| 01:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00079961 = 1.4817 BTC [+] |
| 01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
lnovy it's about a degree of magnitude easier for me to get some dood to shoot at "the enemy" than it'd be to get some woman to shoot at her would-be attacker. |
| 01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
and as far as guns are concerned, they're for killing not for displaying. |
| 01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Most male vetrans I've seen drunk enough to spill the dark secrets spill that they didn't kill people. A majority of the women who admit to being in firefights admit to shooting to kill people because they really don't want to carry goat boy to term if the base is over run |
| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo those women also admit to having serious trouble ever dating. |
| 01:35 |
lnovy |
interesting |
| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
by the time yo uget her where she can defend herself at gunpoint, you also got her to where she's slipping herself roofies |
| 01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Sometimes, but the blowjobs are above par |
| 01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo anyway, let's talk something interesting like business |
| 01:37 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: SO you get the ATC fund's status. |
| 01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
the way i'm thinking, if you pick a sport you like and you actually know enough about to make a line, you can then make that line, and promote it like any bookie |
| 01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
this should be vig-profitable, whatever it's supposed to make, 8% or what was it. |
| 01:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh, but getting people, especially in BTC to bite on a line... is a challenge |
| 01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i never heard of a promoter that had it easy. |
| 01:38 |
BingoBoingo |
They never do. |
| 01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why the promoter makes dough. if it were easy it'd be every kid and his app situation |
| 01:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Right |
| 01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno, i never actually run gambling. but i'm vaguely aware it's a living, so |
| 01:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently it is less of a living than it used to be. |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves yeah, totally, community is everything. except they have no idea what that word means. |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo unlike what ? |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking lawyering is less of a living than it used to be |
| 01:39 |
BingoBoingo |
The replacement level poker player is skilling up. |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
singer-songwriter is MUCH less of a living than it used to be |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
even cocksucking, if you believe the casino cocksuckers, is much less than it used to be |
| 01:40 |
BingoBoingo |
lawyering and s/sing are going down because the replacement level for each sucks more. |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe. but for whatever reason... nothing makes what it used to make. |
| 01:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Has it ever? |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda the point, bank clerks cca 1950 could maintain a nice beachfront house in california, a housewife and her children |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
bank vps can't afford the same today, with the wife working. |
| 01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
1950 was around the time fiat reached its maximum leverage though. |
| 01:42 |
mircea_popescu |
( http://trilema.com/2012/the-wrong-man/ point in case. guy in that movie is a fine example) |
| 01:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves punkman benkay it's wences' new thing. he previously made the same exact thing (lemon) which apparently got sold. |
| 01:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2566 @ 0.0008004 = 2.0538 BTC [+] |
| 01:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Is Joe the new John Doe? |
| 01:45 |
BingoBoingo |
http://trilema.com/2014/me-at-its-finest/ |
| 01:45 |
ozbot |
Me at its finest pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you can probably laser/gamma/magnetic resonance for the ink inside huh. |
| 01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo pretty much. |
| 01:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Works well |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
dub more like found a good angle to humiliated people with it. |
| 01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell decimation as far as i recall the theory behind carbon dating and especialyl the "constant decay" part has been under fire for decades. |
| 01:47 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, the miners are digging into the ATC bid wall nao |
| 01:48 |
joecool |
literally lol'd @ that post |
| 01:49 |
joecool |
got worried when i saw the link and thought it was about me |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
no see \cause you're joeCOOL |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
these are just plain joe. |
| 01:50 |
mircea_popescu |
sooo... turkey going up in flames too huh. |
| 01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
curious if they finally turn muslim, ataturk's memory and the military can only go so far. |
| 01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
snotty eu refused to let them in when they had a chance, and much to their detriment, as a eu member turkey would have definitely taken the eu out of any crisis |
| 01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
and now... |
| 01:51 |
BingoBoingo |
They've been sliding more muslin for two decades now |
| 01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yup |
| 01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
it's gone, basically. |
| 01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Eu needed them more |
| 01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
much like the crimeea. you can posutre all you want, but in the realpolitik world crimeea was gone the moment obama got raped over syria. |
| 01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
in a sense, kerry's idiocy sealed its fate, had he kept his stupid mouth shut... |
| 01:52 |
joecool |
putin keepin the pimp hand strong |
| 01:53 |
BingoBoingo |
At least the Black Sea doesn't seem like ti will be a shooting war anytime soon |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
and obviously, the little secret nobody wants to share in the english language propaganda machine is that currently russian jets are about two classes over anything nato can fly. |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
not even counting the pilots, just the machines. |
| 01:53 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Crimea was sealed in the NATO Libya intervention when the French Raphaels outperformed the new US aircraft |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 01:54 |
mircea_popescu |
and the raphs suck. |
| 01:54 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno that the raphs suck |
| 01:54 |
mircea_popescu |
turns out it's not enough to be really firmly convinced you're cool. gotta also do homework. |
| 01:54 |
BingoBoingo |
Russia wins on fast planes |
| 01:55 |
mircea_popescu |
and on radar |
| 01:55 |
BingoBoingo |
US wins on ONGWTFBBQ planes, but they don'e have many of them... Most aren't approved for flight because pilots need oxygen |
| 01:55 |
mircea_popescu |
and on countermissile and on a ton of other shit |
| 01:56 |
BingoBoingo |
The US pretty much only seems to have the solid win on strategic bombers... and if those are needed the war's been lost |
| 01:57 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo the latest su can actually outfly sidewinders |
| 01:57 |
mircea_popescu |
well the problem is... strategic bombers are useless in this context. the russians can airplane-intercept tomahawks as it is. |
| 01:57 |
mircea_popescu |
what's a bomber to do ? |
| 01:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, according to the Hollywood liason office SU just sells knock off plans to china. |
| 01:58 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Well, there's the B-2... ANd that's about it. |
| 01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
su = sukhoi |
| 01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
B-2 can fly from western Missouri to western Missouri |
| 01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: US only really advertised the MIGs as potention OPFOR... Prolly for morale reasons |
| 01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
not if it gets a fuelbomb dropped on its head |
| 02:00 |
chetty |
but the US planes were all designed and built according to standards - and union rules and all, they must be the best |
| 02:00 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty no doubt about it, they're the best union builds :D |
| 02:00 |
chetty |
:D |
| 02:00 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo yeah. the migs, here's a funny story about the migs : |
| 02:00 |
joecool |
china getting any good at knockoffs? |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the nato exercise in 2012 consisted of a romanian team flying migs (old migs, mind you) as "the enemy" |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the romanian team downed half the us planes, and a bunch of french and dutch |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it was a carnage. |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.0008004 = 15.5678 BTC [+] |
| 02:01 |
BingoBoingo |
AH |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
lesson learned ? zero. |
| 02:01 |
mircea_popescu |
and these are people who can barely afford the fuel to fly the damned rust buckets. |
| 02:02 |
chetty |
they musta cheated |
| 02:02 |
mircea_popescu |
(they did have the jewish elecwarfare upgrades tho, which apparently are damned good) |
| 02:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, the US killed their most capable carriet based aircraft because Iran needed spare parts... |
| 02:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Well on the news the USN is talking about getting more EWAR variant F/A 18's but the pentagon wants more money for vaporware F-35's because they can take off and land like a helicopter |
| 02:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48384 @ 0.00080062 = 38.7372 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2816 @ 0.00080198 = 2.2584 BTC [+] |
| 02:07 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: and congress is old and keeps earmarking more tanks |
| 02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
and to top it all off, we don't even know what the chinese are flying. |
| 02:07 |
joecool |
mircea_popescu: i would guess it doesn't really matter what, but there will be a lot of whatever what is |
| 02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
tho if we're to apply the old yurpean wisdom, considering how fucking scared the russians must be to spend so much on their sus... the chinese must be pretty bad. |
| 02:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Honestly I think China is selling designs to SU now |
| 02:08 |
joecool |
zerg rushers, etc |
| 02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
joecool maybe. the thing with them is that they're really good at keeping secrets. |
| 02:08 |
joecool |
mircea_popescu: wall builders are usually good at that |
| 02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
no chinese gouzenko's let alone wikileaks |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
and so we literally don't know wtf their jets actually are. |
| 02:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Who wanted to trade Rare Earths yesterday... MisterE? |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
but you know, when in 500ad the sarmatians started pushing west, you knew something was scaring them at the other end. |
| 02:10 |
BingoBoingo |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2014#557705 |
| 02:10 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 02:11 |
mircea_popescu |
wow all caught up with log. iiincredible. |
| 02:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed |
| 02:11 |
BingoBoingo |
I plan on falling behind in about 20 hours again |
| 02:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/5e3a7342a73f477fbc5952bf184ea4ab/tumblr_mu3o7p4YE01s8tt3vo1_500.jpg |
| 02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
here's a nice outfit to celebrate. |
| 02:12 |
BingoBoingo |
First I need to come up with a fundraising plan for blog |
| 02:12 |
Dimsler |
mircea_popescu, how was your vacation? |
| 02:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Would there be more interest in this oil painting http://imgur.com/F6IjZAJ or years, plural of an advertising placement on the blog? |
| 02:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31878 @ 0.00080198 = 25.5655 BTC [+] |
| 02:15 |
BingoBoingo |
My fundraising target for the blog is 2-8 BTC, which should be enough to keep it hosted... forever |
| 02:17 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm amenable to parting with both the painting of Kim Jung Il's heart attack on a train and a portion of my sidebar together. |
| 02:18 |
BingoBoingo |
If one of the other bloggers want to be the Patron I would be amenable to Slashdot coaching. |
| 02:19 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: which blog? |
| 02:20 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/ |
| 02:21 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: what kind of traffic |
| 02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: I am skeptical that I can find sponsors atm in the 2-8 BTC range, but... the blog made slasdot twice in 2014 |
| 02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: Traffic is erratic |
| 02:21 |
B007 |
http://bitcoinaware.com/article/12248/xapo-raises-20-million-for-ultra-secure-bitcoin-storage/ |
| 02:21 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Aware | Aritcles | Xapo Raises $20 Million for Ultra-Secure Bitcoin Storage |
| 02:22 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: site is abit rough on the eyes, my co is doing design for youmeandbtc in return for advertising |
| 02:22 |
joecool |
http://www.youmeandbtc.com/ < old |
| 02:22 |
ozbot |
You, Me, and BTC |
| 02:22 |
joecool |
http://207.12.89.216/ < new |
| 02:22 |
ozbot |
You, Me, and BTC - |
| 02:22 |
joecool |
(not done yet, but getting there) |
| 02:22 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: The design aesthetic on my site is ENTIRELY intentional |
| 02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I might get a softer linen background |
| 02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I prefer minimal styling though. |
| 02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
As a moral cause |
| 02:24 |
BingoBoingo |
And my best viewership in one day was 34,205 viewers with javascript enabled |
| 02:25 |
B007 |
Support BingoBlog by sending coins to: 17sTosfHxNzGD4VUP3pjoHCEVofzSEcL95 |
| 02:25 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: ah, you might want to look at moving it to something like dropplets |
| 02:25 |
joecool |
if you're really serious about minimalism |
| 02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: WTFis droplets? |
| 02:25 |
joecool |
http://dropplets.com/ < |
| 02:25 |
ozbot |
Welcome to an Easier Way to Blog |
| 02:26 |
joecool |
doesn't even use a db |
| 02:26 |
B007 |
BingoBoingo: what do you do irl? |
| 02:27 |
BingoBoingo |
B007: I am a trained librarian who does freelance work because I was fed a lie... Well a lot of lies |
| 02:27 |
benkay |
droplets, eh? i imagine i'll go flat flat text with bare links next. |
| 02:28 |
joecool |
might want to look at bootstrap too |
| 02:28 |
joecool |
it's a little more "traditional" looking |
| 02:28 |
joecool |
http://getbootstrap.com/examples/blog/ < etc |
| 02:28 |
ozbot |
Blog Template for Bootstrap |
| 02:28 |
B007 |
librarian? like restock shelves? or do research ? |
| 02:29 |
BingoBoingo |
B007: My experience in grad school was in Health Sciences librarianship, but... school is a lie |
| 02:29 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: Bootstrap is not happening |
| 02:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Dropplet is probably not happening |
| 02:30 |
B007 |
how is school a lie |
| 02:30 |
B007 |
or I guess for you was |
| 02:30 |
benkay |
no bingo you see what you really want is something really fancy someone spent a shitload of money on designing |
| 02:31 |
benkay |
someone who really matters in the ux world like twitter |
| 02:31 |
benkay |
that's how you drive pageviews! |
| 02:31 |
B007 |
my website has only my own pageviews |
| 02:31 |
benkay |
ugh yes everything must now be flat text files gpg signed |
| 02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
Dimsler very long |
| 02:32 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: You understand. I want something ever so slightly more friendly for machine readers than human readers, and I only want rounded surfaced on my dick in sum bitch's mouth |
| 02:32 |
joecool |
benkay: well if you want lots of pageviews and don't really care who its from, use buzzfeed as example (or newsweek lol) |
| 02:32 |
benkay |
yeah you can get real far with the sv crowd chasing those lcd pageviews |
| 02:33 |
benkay |
anyways you guys i get to experience America this weekend! |
| 02:33 |
benkay |
some family is flying babydoll and i out for her sister's birthday. this includes a Hajj to Disneyland, apparently. |
| 02:33 |
BingoBoingo |
B007: It was a lie in the sense that the program admitted 3x more students than the market would bear and the students who got hired all sucked a meaner dick than I would |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay you're not living in the US ?! |
| 02:34 |
benkay |
california is a different country man |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
bejeez all these foreigner terrorists getting uppity... |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
so your gf is from topeka |
| 02:34 |
joecool |
benkay: i'd like to think florida is too |
| 02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
the shame |
| 02:35 |
benkay |
topeka? |
| 02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, benkay I would have pegged you as being from the Republic of Oregon |
| 02:35 |
benkay |
as in the styx? |
| 02:35 |
benkay |
sticks? |
| 02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
topeka, kansas. |
| 02:35 |
mircea_popescu |
in which you're not anymore, babydoll! |
| 02:35 |
benkay |
right right |
| 02:35 |
benkay |
sticks, in the vernacular |
| 02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: How much to kill http://www.youmeandbtc.com/ with fire? |
| 02:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Topeka_1869.jpg |
| 02:36 |
benkay |
BingoBoingo my location's pretty trivially deductable |
| 02:36 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: lol |
| 02:36 |
benkay |
no points |
| 02:37 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: in other news, pm |
| 02:37 |
BingoBoingo |
? |
| 02:40 |
B007 |
if you donate I will luv you forever http://www.binaryspawn.com/donate/ |
| 02:44 |
B007 |
so what are some good books to learn about finance? |
| 02:44 |
B007 |
or websites? |
| 02:45 |
BingoBoingo |
B007: I'd suggest Kritik der Urteilskraft |
| 02:49 |
B007 |
ask for finance book, get philosophical book |
| 02:49 |
B007 |
It does lool interesting though |
| 02:49 |
benkay |
The Rational Investor |
| 02:49 |
chetty |
same thing B007 |
| 02:50 |
benkay |
wait hang on wrong title |
| 02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
B007: You wanted a book on subjective decision making, I offered te same |
| 02:50 |
B007 |
yes, thanks |
| 02:51 |
MisterE |
great Belarus is getting involved |
| 02:51 |
BingoBoingo |
MisterE: Link plox? |
| 02:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00080383 = 10.289 BTC [+] |
| 02:52 |
MisterE |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26564851 |
| 02:52 |
ozbot |
BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Russia tells UN it does not want war |
| 02:52 |
MisterE |
In a sign the tension may be spreading, Belarus - a Russian ally - confirmed Moscow had deployed, at its request, extra fighter jets and military transport aircraft after Nato boosted its forces in the neighbouring Baltic countries. |
| 02:56 |
BingoBoingo |
I wonder if kakobrekla might want to help keep my blog alive for bit4x advertising and an oil painting? |
| 02:58 |
kakobrekla |
hm, perhaps i get you some adaptive css instead? |
| 02:58 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell dimsler whoa that was quick. |
| 02:58 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 02:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"China's Li Keqiang warns investors to prepare for wave of bankruptcies" |
| 03:05 |
B007 |
"serious challenges" |
| 03:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49650 @ 0.00079969 = 39.7046 BTC [-] |
| 03:05 |
B007 |
" Beijing is copying the Japanese tactic of ramping up public infrastructure spending to replace the steep slowdown in private sector investment." |
| 03:05 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: That might work |
| 03:06 |
MisterE |
China is in a world of hurt |
| 03:06 |
MisterE |
they just dont want the world to know it |
| 03:06 |
benkay |
but jets? |
| 03:07 |
benkay |
my money's on drone swarms. |
| 03:07 |
BingoBoingo |
My hope is I do this one fundraiser. Someone gets a year or decade of advertising, and the balance keeps the site alive for literally, rather than merely figuratively... forever. |
| 03:07 |
benkay |
wow there's an idea forever hosting |
| 03:07 |
benkay |
o wait blockchain |
| 03:07 |
benkay |
stick it in the blockchain, BingoBoingo |
| 03:08 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Site can't be hosted in the blockchain, but a contract can. |
| 03:09 |
benkay |
i heard tell of... |
| 03:09 |
* |
benkay hushes voice and looks around |
| 03:09 |
benkay |
js embedded in the blockchain that executes in browsers |
| 03:09 |
benkay |
oh no! |
| 03:09 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: basically the thought is if BTC keeps going up 30x a year, only a few BTC now can host a site for eternity |
| 03:10 |
benkay |
put up a paywall. |
| 03:11 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Too young. Need at least three years... Or a catastrophic nuclear attack on New York, DC, and LA |
| 03:12 |
benkay |
you're missing the point. |
| 03:12 |
benkay |
donations suck. |
| 03:12 |
benkay |
sell credits |
| 03:12 |
benkay |
this should be a wp plugin |
| 03:12 |
benkay |
someone call phpbrekla |
| 03:12 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H25lz7gchaw |
| 03:12 |
ozbot |
Eiffel 65 - I'm Blue - YouTube |
| 03:13 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: The thing is there is yet to be solid infrastructure for credits or advertising in BTC |
| 03:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Aged an critical elders can sell credits |
| 03:14 |
benkay |
you have the price dial to turn as well |
| 03:14 |
benkay |
furthermore the blog credit market needs some price discovery |
| 03:14 |
cads |
hwy guys have you hear about that new cryptocurrency based on protein folding? |
| 03:14 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: It what way can I really turn the dial though |
| 03:14 |
* |
cads wishes he wasn't just pulling your legs |
| 03:14 |
benkay |
well one of two directions, right? |
| 03:15 |
benkay |
either cheaper or more expensive |
| 03:15 |
kakobrekla |
meh even the non btc advertising platforms are scams |
| 03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
cads noobs gotta think they're smart, you know ? |
| 03:15 |
kakobrekla |
how can you expect anything more from btc ones |
| 03:15 |
BingoBoingo |
In an immature market though... The dial might not even be attached to the cam |
| 03:16 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I got it. What do you call a cryptocurrency based on protein folding? |
| 03:16 |
benkay |
or sell access to specific pieces |
| 03:16 |
cads |
An amino-asset. |
| 03:16 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Well, I've seen little actual promise from ads in either space |
| 03:16 |
benkay |
cads brilliant |
| 03:16 |
Duffer1 |
............... |
| 03:17 |
BingoBoingo |
And somehow this shit is more betable than Basketball http://kotaku.com/league-of-legends-pro-attempted-suicide-after-tournamen-1542880793 |
| 03:17 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
| 03:17 |
assbot |
Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1726375/plain/) |
| 03:17 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 8 |
| 03:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I swear I tried to do the basketball post as honestly as I could without calling it nigger golf |
| 03:19 |
benkay |
bahahaha |
| 03:19 |
MisterE |
most pro sports are dominated by blacks |
| 03:19 |
benkay |
wow that kotaku article's full of lulz as well. dude crumpled some modern tin fake building and didn't die. |
| 03:20 |
MisterE |
heh, I'll read |
| 03:21 |
cads |
"The Skynet hypothesis is a boogeyman intended to scare the young and the paranoid. The real threat from AI is that it will become so good at the pointless tasks that we have given it that those pointless tasks will become a black hole of resources." I am reading an article about a concept the author calls malignant computing - computing that increases itself and hurts the market in an effort to perpetuate itself. http://radar.oreilly. |
| 03:21 |
cads |
com/2014/03/malignant-computation.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+oreilly/radar/atom+(O'Reilly+Radar) |
| 03:21 |
BingoBoingo |
MisterE: Explain Hockey? |
| 03:21 |
MisterE |
I cant it sounds dumb |
| 03:22 |
MisterE |
but I've been to a hockey game and it's very cool |
| 03:22 |
MisterE |
its one of those that does poorly transferring to TV |
| 03:22 |
MisterE |
unlike basketball that seems built for tv |
| 03:22 |
MisterE |
and ftr I think hockey is still dominated by white barbarians |
| 03:24 |
cads |
Arguments like that have been raised originally against high frequency trading, and as we're familier with, against the hashchain algorithm. |
| 03:24 |
cads |
the author seems to hint that if a proof of work system is going to be malignant and self expandingit may as well be proof of some universally useful work |
| 03:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Well I'll post this again in case anyone can't scroll up http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/13/an-overview-of-betable-sports-part-2-basketball/ |
| 03:25 |
benkay |
what, securing the monetary base isn't universally useful? |
| 03:25 |
cads |
but only gives as an example Primecoin, a c-currency where the proof of work involves finding primes. |
| 03:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/truck-driver-who-wore-vampire-fangs-accused-of-keeping-sex-slaves-in-semitrailer-for-months/ |
| 03:26 |
ozbot |
Truck Driver Who Wore Vampire Fangs Accused Of Keeping Sex Slaves In Semitrailer For Months « CBS L |
| 03:26 |
mircea_popescu |
utah vampyre |
| 03:27 |
mircea_popescu |
cads you realise that's a whole lot of ignorant nonsense do you ? |
| 03:29 |
MisterE |
http://coingen.io/ |
| 03:29 |
MisterE |
everyone can have a crypto coin |
| 03:30 |
cads |
can we make a computing system that grows such that it harms the market? sure, high speed trading has caused serious disasters - but we can also argue those are just growing pains and we're better off for the high speed bots. |
| 03:31 |
mircea_popescu |
that's besides the point. there's a certain troop of losers that have had a purely ideological problem with bitcoin mining since 2009 |
| 03:31 |
mircea_popescu |
the idea is that bitcoin uses energy, and they don't like using energy. period. |
| 03:31 |
cads |
right |
| 03:32 |
mircea_popescu |
now, that this is hogwashed into something pompous sounding like "malignant computing" is exactly typical of the mannerisms of the particular ideological group in question. |
| 03:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the gargle holds no futher merit past its function as a retard magnet. |
| 03:33 |
chetty |
I want a time machine, send those folks back to walk streets a foot deep in horse shit |
| 03:33 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps amusing an exercise would be restructuring the argument, except directed at them. |
| 03:33 |
mircea_popescu |
malignant pseudopolitics is this process which expands to occupy all fora available. |
| 03:33 |
MisterE |
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/scientist-devised-crypto-attack-could-one-day-steal-secret-bitcoin-keys/ |
| 03:33 |
ozbot |
Scientist-devised crypto attack could one day steal secret Bitcoin keys | Ars Technica |
| 03:33 |
mircea_popescu |
sort-of what the socialists are doing in the us, or the communists did in the soviet union. |
| 03:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it's malignant alright, it's pointless alright, with or without all the huffpo crap the world would be exactly in the same position. |
| 03:34 |
mircea_popescu |
nao what ? purely ideological construct, works just as well in any random direction. |
| 03:35 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: lets leave aside the author's obvious retardation and focus on prime coin and the idea of doing externally useful work as a side effect of the cryptocurrency. |
| 03:35 |
mircea_popescu |
the entire thing shows striking similarities to the peta-and-animal-saving debacle, for that matter. |
| 03:36 |
mircea_popescu |
well, there are two major problems involved here. |
| 03:36 |
mircea_popescu |
one would seem to be thermodynamic, which is to say that the total utility of work available is limited, and if you do outside useful work you won't do the work you set out to do in the first place. |
| 03:36 |
mircea_popescu |
this could be understood on a macro level as "if there are outside constraints on your pow process, you'll need that many more iterations" |
| 03:36 |
cads |
the author does provide me with say 30 bits of novel information (I had not known of prime coin - the paper is interesting) |
| 03:37 |
mircea_popescu |
im not debating whether it's interesting, it's definitely interesting. i'm just saying it;'s stupid. stupid things are usually interesting, at least as amusements |
| 03:37 |
cads |
first example of a scientific computing cryptocurrency (and I certainly hope we'll see more useful ones as well) |
| 03:38 |
Duffer1 |
scientific utility of a cunningham chain discovery mechanism is debatable |
| 03:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no but you're math-literate, how would this work ? you compute two things with the same stone ? what's the idea here ? |
| 03:38 |
cads |
mircea_popescu> this could be understood on a macro level as "if there are outside constraints on your pow process, you'll need that many more iterations" |
| 03:39 |
cads |
this would be neat to model, and may well be true in a very theormodynamic sense |
| 03:39 |
cads |
hmm |
| 03:39 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, let me offer what i believe is a homomorphism |
| 03:39 |
mircea_popescu |
"you can make any sha key you want, as long as every other byte is FA" |
| 03:39 |
mircea_popescu |
now. does this mean your key will simply have to be twice as long for equal security ? |
| 03:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10099644 = 0.202 BTC [+] |
| 03:42 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 03:42 |
mircea_popescu |
im probably restating well known and anciently established mathematical fact, but here, mp's lemma : any computation of two results can be reduced to two computations of the respective results, and the sum of the energy consumed by the latter will be at most equal to the energy consumed by the former process. |
| 03:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Sounds reasonable |
| 03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
and actually this could probably be expanded into interesting results for ppl trying to understand various higher level maths. "define a comutative algebra in which a ring can exist for which any addition also calculates a multiplication and vice-versa" |
| 03:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Shame Erdos and his bog bag of meth are out of the picture |
| 03:44 |
mircea_popescu |
something like the 2+2 = 4 2*2 = 4 sorta thing. |
| 03:45 |
cads |
let me offer a counter "you can solve a partial hash collision problem (something like an O(2^k) expected running time), or you can solve a np-complete problem requiring brute searching a binary tree of height k (assume similar expected chance of success)." |
| 03:45 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo no we want like emmy noether for this shit |
| 03:46 |
cads |
Now suppose both solutions are verifiably by a third party in polynomial time. But suppose additionally that the answer for the second problem also has a value of $100 to the third party. The question is should the second process take more energy to compute? |
| 03:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Like he didn't have a big bag of meth either |
| 03:49 |
cads |
I feel the value supposition must be completely independent and coincidental to the energy requirements. You could even suppose it is pure coincidence the output of the second algorithm is structured such that it's useful to the third party. |
| 03:50 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, it's clearly interesting. or as the romanian expression goes, "un prostovan arunca o piatra in apa si zece filosofi se chinuie s-o scoata" |
| 03:51 |
mircea_popescu |
cads but if it's purely coincidental then you don't have a pow that does protein folding, you just have a pow that occasionally folds a protein |
| 03:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i imagine after enough btc blocks, we'll actually get shakespeare's merchant of venice in the hashes, so why not |
| 03:52 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: it's without question that anyone can look at the outputs of the two algorithms and verify that ~2^k energy was expended. Perhaps the problem happens when we require the second algorithm to also guarantee a useful output relative to the third party. |
| 03:52 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 03:52 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly. |
| 03:53 |
BingoBoingo |
The rejected hashes might already contain that play. |
| 03:53 |
cads |
i don't see it because regardless of the supposed usefullness, the algorithm still uses 2^k energy. |
| 03:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cads no but the key is your "or". turn it to "and" and see. |
| 03:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cause really to work as advertised or is no good |
| 03:54 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo emmy noether was a woman |
| 03:55 |
mircea_popescu |
possibly the smartest woman that ever lived. |
| 03:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 32 @ 0.0063672 = 0.2038 BTC [-] {2} |
| 03:56 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Once they hit the crystal... It's just safest to assign them the pronoun that inspires the least sexual interest. |
| 03:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 45 @ 0.00637406 = 0.2868 BTC [+] {4} |
| 03:57 |
mircea_popescu |
a bit ironic because the poor woman suffered plenty through being a woman. ended up teaching under hilbert's name because the sort of boneheads roaming about end of 19th century couldn't have a woman colleague |
| 03:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Indeed. Most of the really big breaks in computational theory cam from the women before the dorks realized they could make their own fantasy worlds. |
| 03:59 |
cads |
well lets see a better example. Problem 1 makes us solve the travelling salesman problem on random graphs. Problem 2 makes us solve travelling salesman on maps that appear indistinguishable from the first ones, but in fact encode valuable information in their solutions. For your hypothesis to be true, it should be impossible for the second problem to cost less energy than the first? |
| 03:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Also ironic, how pissed would the whales be if they knew we used the same word for our losers and their dicks. |
| 04:00 |
BingoBoingo |
cads: Define indistinguishable |
| 04:00 |
mircea_popescu |
cads not at all. my lemma is more general, in your proposed terms it would be : |
| 04:00 |
cads |
BingoBoingo: right, I'm to tired to do that rigorously or even tell if why I said even makes sense. |
| 04:01 |
BingoBoingo |
For most naive attempts at implementations the second set would likely be simpler and cheaper than the first |
| 04:01 |
cads |
BingoBoingo: right |
| 04:02 |
mircea_popescu |
should an algorithm exist to resolve the problem of ts on randomly distributed graphs, an application of that algorithm on a selected set of graphs with a useful application will cost more than the normal by an ammount at least equal to the cost of computing the useful application. |
| 04:03 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean for the first set you could probably encode information much as RSA does. I don't have enough vodka on hand to speculate if that would be a good idea. Most of Elliptic curve cryptography works on spaces that can be played with in graph theory world though. |
| 04:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, if on average your useless-pow block costs 1, the useful-pow will cost 1+ε, where ε >= the useful |
| 04:03 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I don't feel it mathematically yet but I feel why we'd like this to hold, economically |
| 04:04 |
BingoBoingo |
In a world with Auroa coin and Mazacoin... THere is a good chance random graphs might mine better in tard efforts at implementation |
| 04:04 |
mircea_popescu |
to me it's quite straightforwardly obvious but im much too wasted to be able to show it. |
| 04:05 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I think we should be able to test the hypothesis directly against the primecoin if we try hard enough |
| 04:05 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Your lemma is sensical so long as it is restricted to hard POW's |
| 04:05 |
mircea_popescu |
cads but would we be able to trust the results |
| 04:05 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I feel the same here, for the opposite side |
| 04:05 |
mircea_popescu |
this is not unlike proving a given set of numbers is "random" |
| 04:05 |
BingoBoingo |
cads: Primecoin isn't even that cool at finding useful primes |
| 04:05 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i suppose it degenerates into some sort of banal equality otherwise |
| 04:06 |
Duffer1 |
not even primes, just cunningham prime chains |
| 04:06 |
Duffer1 |
Riecoin is the one for large primes |
| 04:07 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Well, most minds have their head splints set to promote that nowadays. |
| 04:07 |
Duffer1 |
afaik the outcome of either cannot be guaranteed to yield a useful result beyond PoW |
| 04:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting: Penrose's book doesn't have an index entry for "random" |
| 04:07 |
mircea_popescu |
random is a scam. |
| 04:07 |
BingoBoingo |
FOr srs |
| 04:08 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose actually my lemma may end up the equivalent of quantum indeterminacy, but for maths. |
| 04:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, if you don't look it costs 1, if you look worth ε it costs 1+ε and fuck you. |
| 04:08 |
cads |
"Hypothesis: if an algorithm's output provides proof of 1 unit of work, and that output is also usable to provide the equivalent of epsilon units of useful work for another problem, then the energy expenditure of the algorithm must be greater or equal to 1 + epsilon units of work." |
| 04:09 |
BingoBoingo |
If random existed it would have an index entry on page 1095 between "quantum reality" and "relatavistic quantum angular momentum" |
| 04:09 |
Duffer1 |
not necessarily a scam, but certainly not reliable. Prime coin has produced measurable results beyond PoW utility |
| 04:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00080391 = 7.9587 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:09 |
mircea_popescu |
cads something like that |
| 04:10 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: to formalize this completely we'll have to assume something like a polynomial time algorithm that converts the output of algorithm A into a solution for problem B. |
| 04:10 |
mircea_popescu |
well wait, that's hiding the ε ? |
| 04:10 |
cads |
probably |
| 04:10 |
cads |
if it works out |
| 04:10 |
cads |
that's the only place for the e to come from, isn't it? |
| 04:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and importantly, this is looking forward in time. |
| 04:11 |
mircea_popescu |
you can in principle sift through the history and find convenient cases for any particular problem |
| 04:11 |
mircea_popescu |
byt the idea here is that we promise some sort of result in the future. |
| 04:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.07346034 = 3.673 BTC [-] {9} |
| 04:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"turn this wheel and an egg will fall out every revolution and also a feather every ten revolutions" is okay, whereas |
| 04:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"turn this wheel and an egg will fall out every revolution, then look if any eggs have feathers attached" is not okay |
| 04:12 |
Duffer1 |
that's pretty much how primecoin works lol |
| 04:12 |
mircea_popescu |
o is it ? |
| 04:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.0037 = 0.3663 BTC [-] {3} |
| 04:12 |
mircea_popescu |
(i've not looked much into it at all) |
| 04:12 |
cads |
suppose we have algorithm A, and we have that a solution of A reduces polynomially solutions B, C, D, E, F, G... |
| 04:13 |
MisterE |
major LTC manipulation now |
| 04:13 |
MisterE |
Whale is swinging it around like a cat by its tail |
| 04:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00043822 = 0.4382 BTC [-] {14} |
| 04:13 |
MisterE |
not that I have ever done that to a cat |
| 04:13 |
MisterE |
... |
| 04:14 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: we'll have an epsilon for each target problem, and maybe the cost of solving al the target problems starting from A must be greater than or equal to solving B, C, D... seperately. |
| 04:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00463317 = 0.4633 BTC [-] {5} |
| 04:14 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, im wiped. we'll have to continue this tomorro |
| 04:14 |
mircea_popescu |
cheers all. |
| 04:14 |
cads |
mircea_popescu: I concur |
| 04:14 |
MisterE |
laterz |
| 04:14 |
MisterE |
interesting |
| 04:14 |
Duffer1 |
MP read the Primecoin whitepapaer you'd like it |
| 04:15 |
MisterE |
do continue |
| 04:15 |
Duffer1 |
later man |
| 04:15 |
Duffer1 |
cads read the Reicoin whitepaper you'd like it ^.^ |
| 04:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.0382 = 0.382 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:16 |
cads |
Duffer1: I do feel like we're arguing more from philosophical/economical principle that computation shouldn't give us two things for free - but this seems false. |
| 04:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07889999 = 0.1578 BTC [+] |
| 04:17 |
cads |
for a really weaksauce example, say I take the square of a number x. In the result I've also computed the square of the number -x, and this for 'free'. |
| 04:17 |
Duffer1 |
primecoin has already proven that hashing can produce utility beyond PoW |
| 04:18 |
MisterE |
NMC does useful stuff too |
| 04:18 |
cads |
MP's conjecture is that it must trade off utility between Pow and the secondary function |
| 04:18 |
Duffer1 |
ya, i must disagree with that position |
| 04:19 |
cads |
same here but I have to say it's intriguing |
| 04:19 |
Duffer1 |
mistere it does, but it's still a hashcash based PoW |
| 04:19 |
BingoBoingo |
NMC was thought to do useful shit, but miners won't commit transactions with useful data |
| 04:19 |
cads |
Duffer1: I've not heard of reicoin yet (I'd merely heard of primecoin half an hour ago) |
| 04:20 |
VanCleef |
is it possible to have a alt coin that doesn't require any miners to verify it? once its sent its instantly confirmed? |
| 04:20 |
Duffer1 |
riecoin's pow attempts to find prime sextuplets to generate absurdly long prime numbers |
| 04:20 |
Duffer1 |
500+ digit |
| 04:21 |
cads |
I want to see a cryptocurrency backed in automated service provider contracts |
| 04:21 |
cads |
whatever that means :) |
| 04:21 |
cads |
VanCleef: sounds like you want to set up a kind of test network? |
| 04:23 |
VanCleef |
i think so? |
| 04:23 |
Duffer1 |
cads http://riecoin.org/#questions |
| 04:24 |
VanCleef |
its just awkward when doing a face trade with someone and they ask if they can sleep over while waiting for it to confirm |
| 04:25 |
VanCleef |
i sat with a guy for 8 hours at starbucks once and i ran out of things to talk about about an hour |
| 04:26 |
Mats_cd03 |
pay a higher tx fee then scrub |
| 04:26 |
cads |
VanCleef: a test network holds no market value so it'll confirm quick but mean zip |
| 04:29 |
VanCleef |
ok, not a test network |
| 04:30 |
kakobrekla |
meh, blockchain buys rtbtc, everything goes to shit. |
| 04:31 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
| 04:31 |
Mats_cd03 |
whatever the tx fee in the ref client is, double it, problem solved |
| 04:32 |
VanCleef |
i'll remember that for next time mats |
| 04:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
the confirmation delay is something altcoins have experimented with |
| 04:33 |
moiety |
mew |
| 04:33 |
moiety |
bb got a sec? |
| 04:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
they mostly suck |
| 04:36 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Sure |
| 04:37 |
BingoBoingo |
So blockchain.info started looking really sickly really fast. |
| 04:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Smallpox? |
| 04:40 |
MisterE |
last week they were the big news on Bloomberg |
| 04:40 |
MisterE |
the start of this down trend |
| 04:40 |
MisterE |
when their news was poop |
| 04:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Like Blockchain.info when from being useful, cultured manure to straight up salmonella liquishits |
| 05:00 |
MisterE |
users leavig btce in droves |
| 05:00 |
MisterE |
looks like Stamp is the new king |
| 05:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59041 = 1.1808 BTC [-] |
| 05:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5904 BTC [-] |
| 05:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00079969 = 35.5862 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 05:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07889999 = 0.3945 BTC [+] |
| 05:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21439 @ 0.00079984 = 17.1478 BTC [+] |
| 05:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00080045 = 6.8438 BTC [+] {2} |
| 06:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00080388 = 5.5468 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 06:26 |
BingoBoingo |
So... Mark Shuttleworth just can't demand a display server work |
| 06:26 |
BingoBoingo |
http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/03/13/2241232/ubuntus-mir-gets-delayed-again |
| 06:26 |
ozbot |
Ubuntu's Mir Gets Delayed Again - Slashdot |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 06:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00080394 = 21.1436 BTC [+] |
| 06:49 |
davout |
;;later tell mircea_popescu deposits pl0x |
| 06:49 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 06:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00080388 = 18.4089 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 07:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04527334 = 0.1358 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.04497705 = 0.8546 BTC [-] {4} |
| 07:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.005743 = 0.402 BTC [-] {3} |
| 07:31 |
nubbins` |
hi |
| 07:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00080219 = 24.7877 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 08:19 |
dub |
;tslb |
| 08:19 |
nubbins` |
;;tslc |
| 08:19 |
gribble |
Error: "tslc" is not a valid command. |
| 08:19 |
dub |
:;tslb |
| 08:20 |
nubbins` |
(time since last coffee) |
| 08:20 |
dub |
lel |
| 08:20 |
dub |
;;tslb |
| 08:20 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 29 minutes and 2 seconds |
| 08:20 |
nubbins` |
:o |
| 08:20 |
dub |
every time |
| 08:20 |
dub |
I tell you |
| 08:20 |
nubbins` |
so there's this escrow guy on the forums, saltyspitoon |
| 08:20 |
nubbins` |
great fella |
| 08:20 |
nubbins` |
was gonna leave him some wot ratings |
| 08:21 |
nubbins` |
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=saltyspitoon |
| 08:21 |
ozbot |
Rating Details for User 'saltyspitoon' |
| 08:21 |
nubbins` |
almost too perfect to ruin |
| 08:21 |
dub |
heh |
| 08:23 |
dub |
fuck you bitcoin, fuck you in the goat ass |
| 08:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00080312 = 24.2944 BTC [+] {2} |
| 08:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0008034 = 22.6559 BTC [+] {2} |
| 08:40 |
Neil |
Damn these blocks getting scarce |
| 08:43 |
Neil |
<mircea_popescu> Neil since you mentioned jtd, you ever read the original mpoe prospectus ? << I have, probably twice. What's the connection? |
| 08:45 |
Neil |
http://bitbet.us/bet/596/btc-difficulty-to-increase-by-less-than-10/ << Time for the difficulty bulls to get worried? |
| 08:45 |
ozbot |
BitBet - BTC difficulty to increase by less than 10% |
| 08:47 |
Apocalyptic |
.d |
| 08:47 |
ozbot |
4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1800 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.0162% in 11d 23h 55m 0s |
| 08:47 |
Neil |
The last 2 weeks are the first time in a long time at least 50% of the time I open blockchain.info it shows a block over 1hr old. |
| 08:47 |
Apocalyptic |
too soon to tell imo |
| 08:48 |
Neil |
It's like a mini-inflation shock. History shows they take about 2 months to feed into the price. June 2016 with the halving is gonna be epic. |
| 08:50 |
Neil |
Nov 12 led to a 100x price in 1yr |
| 08:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2224 @ 0.00015467 = 0.344 BTC [-] {5} |
| 08:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5904 BTC [-] |
| 09:05 |
Neil |
Mr Derek Dick was one heck of a lyricist. |
| 09:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2949 @ 0.00345037 = 10.1751 BTC [-] {30} |
| 09:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44689 @ 0.00080149 = 35.8178 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:24 |
Neil |
Derek William Dick. What a guy. |
| 09:30 |
Neil |
Respect |
| 09:32 |
Neil |
"Singing psychedelic praises to the depths of a China bowl" |
| 09:32 |
Neil |
"You've got venom in your stomach, you've got poison in your head" |
| 09:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00080396 = 21.4657 BTC [+] {3} |
| 09:34 |
Neil |
He knows, you know, he knows, you know, he knows, you know, but he's got problems!" |
| 09:34 |
Neil |
Underrated as fck. |
| 09:37 |
blackwhite |
so one bitcoin could potentially be subdivided into "infinite" sub sets right? |
| 09:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00080004 = 27.2414 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.07202505 = 0.2881 BTC [-] {3} |
| 09:42 |
Neil |
blackwhite: One bitcoin is one bitcoin. To what extent one agrees to subdivide it is but a mere footnote. The default assumption amongst market participants, owing to history, is 100m "satoshis" are a bitcoin. |
| 09:44 |
Neil |
Which probably to Mr Satoshi 5 years ago seemed like a pipe-dream, but now is starting to feel like a low-ball |
| 09:45 |
blackwhite |
Yeah the reason why I ask is. If for some reason suddenly 10million bit coins go lost that basically would mean the end of the currency, but couldn't that somehow be countered by splitting each bitcoin so we deal in satoshis instead? Asking because I can't wrap my head around that problem |
| 09:45 |
blackwhite |
i.e. it's not impossible to imagine large sums of bitcoin dissapear |
| 09:45 |
blackwhite |
then what |
| 09:46 |
Neil |
"Yeah the reason why I ask is. If for some reason suddenly 10million bit coins go lost that basically would mean the end of the currency" uhh please explain that big underspecified jump in logic. |
| 09:46 |
Neil |
It *would* mean everyone else's suddenly got worth a lot more, but the end? You don't understand. |
| 09:47 |
Neil |
But re splitting, absolutely, you get it. |
| 09:49 |
Neil |
blackwhite: First thing to understand is most the shit you read in the media isn't a "problem", it's just the guy writing the article's "problem" |
| 09:49 |
Neil |
decide for yourself |
| 09:51 |
Neil |
blackwhite: If there are 100kg of gold in the world, and then 20kg disappear, then what? |
| 09:51 |
Neil |
Nothing, just it's cool if you own some of that 20kg that is left. That is all. |
| 09:54 |
blackwhite |
yeah but consider this argument for instance: "If Bitcoin matured into a complete currency, with large numbers of workers using it as their medium of account, then its inflexibility could bring economic havoc. Money-supply “shocks”, like the disappearance of Mt Gox, could set off a systemic collapse. Given a loss of faith in exchanges, users might withdraw their coins in a panic, leading to a dangerous decline in transaction volume. Such |
| 09:54 |
blackwhite |
hoarding could threaten Bitcoin’s status as a medium of exchange, leading to its complete demise as a currency. |
| 09:54 |
blackwhite |
Reputable exchanges with large institutional holdings could help stem such panics by advertising a willingness to sell their Bitcoins to meet liquidity demand. Yet because Bitcoin reserves are finite, users may not find the promise credible. By contrast, central banks with the inexhaustible resources of the printing press face no such inconvenient constraints." |
| 09:54 |
blackwhite |
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21599053-chronic-deflation-may-keep-bitcoin-displacing-its-fiat-rivals-money |
| 09:55 |
Neil |
blackwhite: I don't know where to start. Maybe start thinking for yourself and stop drinking the logical fallacies? |
| 09:55 |
blackwhite |
Neil oh I am |
| 09:55 |
blackwhite |
i am just saying thats an argument being put out there |
| 09:55 |
Neil |
It's Keynesian claptrap and the opposite of reality. |
| 09:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.0031105 = 0.1493 BTC [-] |
| 09:56 |
Neil |
Arguments don't matter though. Ownership transfer does. |
| 09:56 |
blackwhite |
yeah sure |
| 09:57 |
Neil |
Just act in your own self interest and ignore the noise |
| 09:58 |
blackwhite |
well to be honest I am not so much interested in bitcoin as a currency but more as a technology. I don't mine but purely trade my services for bitcoin. So its all good |
| 09:58 |
blackwhite |
and yeah agree on that |
| 09:58 |
Neil |
Good for you. That's all we need - volountary interaction. |
| 09:59 |
Neil |
Of course, as a speculator I believe you'd benefit by holding, but I don't begrudge you deciding what to do with your own money. Hopefully vice versa. |
| 10:01 |
Neil |
My belief is that bitcoin will succeed for one simple reason, whose power almost eveyrone underestimates (apart from Satoshi): people will come to realise holding bitcoin is in their own best interest. And everything else will follow, in the future as it already has, from $0.01 to $500. Nothing has changed. |
| 10:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-] |
| 10:02 |
Neil |
And boy do I look forward to the day I can travel the world and spend bitcoin. I think it's only 2 years away. |
| 10:03 |
nubbins` |
http://mark-karpeles.com/m.php?page=trades&user_id=188 |
| 10:03 |
blackwhite |
yeah that is why I am also trying to get bit coins by doing what I do best. Interface design, product design, branding etc. |
| 10:03 |
Neil |
blackwhite: Good for you. Keep true to that and you will succeed. |
| 10:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00079805 = 21.0685 BTC [-] {3} |
| 10:05 |
Neil |
blackwhite: The world is your oyster. Whether your customer is an Iranian or a Korean. Who gives a fuck apart from those who benefit by dividing us. |
| 10:05 |
blackwhite |
I think John Smart said it best. |
| 10:05 |
blackwhite |
from his tweet |
| 10:05 |
blackwhite |
FedGovt dollars are *debt instruments*. #Bitcoin is first chance for little investor to say enough. Tea Party & Occupy both see it's value. |
| 10:06 |
Neil |
Yeah it'll take time, but it'll happen. I'm 100% sure. |
| 10:10 |
blackwhite |
so what are some of the models people use to make money with bit coins besides mining? |
| 10:10 |
blackwhite |
I saw this |
| 10:10 |
blackwhite |
http://www.mpex.co/ |
| 10:10 |
nubbins` |
sell things you make for btc |
| 10:10 |
blackwhite |
apparently its fairly successful |
| 10:11 |
blackwhite |
yeah thats what I am doing |
| 10:11 |
Neil |
blackwhite: There's nothing wrong with just sitting on your coins. Just make sure they're safe. |
| 10:11 |
nubbins` |
mining/buying is for suckers |
| 10:11 |
blackwhite |
Neil not saying there is just interested in some of the models out there |
| 10:11 |
dexx |
http://bitcoindev.us.to/en/developer-guide |
| 10:11 |
ozbot |
Developer Guide - Bitcoin |
| 10:11 |
blackwhite |
trying to learn as much as possible about this field |
| 10:12 |
Neil |
Sure. I think some of MP's businesses are interesting. Just they're trading at an insane premium IMO, because of lack of credible alternatives. Make your own decision. |
| 10:13 |
Neil |
And if he's run over by a bus tomorrow, what are you left holding? |
| 10:13 |
Neil |
Something of very unclear value IMO. |
| 10:14 |
Neil |
And he's clearly playing in an unclear tax / regulatory state. (Not that I blame him at all). But take it into account. |
| 10:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0060231 = 0.1205 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:17 |
thestringpuller |
lack of credible alternatives is an understatement |
| 10:19 |
blackwhite |
In other words there is room for competition? |
| 10:20 |
Neil |
blackwhite: Absolutely |
| 10:20 |
Neil |
But I'm not claiming it'd be easy; I'm quite sure it'd be very tough |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 58 @ 0.00600179 = 0.3481 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:24 |
nubbins` |
Neil: problem with most things on mpex is low volume |
| 10:24 |
nubbins` |
so it's pretty easy to swing prices |
| 10:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.075 = 0.525 BTC [-] |
| 10:25 |
nubbins` |
ignoring mpoe, you're looking at ~1btc/24h across all assets |
| 10:33 |
thestringpuller |
speaking of popescus |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
you were ? |
| 10:33 |
nubbins` |
read the log D; |
| 10:33 |
* |
nubbins` cackles |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
in a minute lol |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i gotta article i gotta write first |
| 10:37 |
nubbins` |
measles outbreak in nyc |
| 10:37 |
chetty |
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/it-begins-past-week-foreigners-sell-record-amount-over-100-billion-treasurys-held-fe |
| 10:37 |
nubbins` |
but, y'know, don't bother vaccinating your kids |
| 10:37 |
ozbot |
Foreigners Sell A Record Amount, Over $100 Billion, Of Treasurys Held By The Fed In Past Week | Zero |
| 10:37 |
Diablo-D3 |
$100 billion is about 1% of treasury bonds. |
| 10:38 |
Diablo-D3 |
so zerohedge fails to be relevant yet again |
| 10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
somewhere in the middle. it's not what they make it out to be, but it is a blip |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much all depends on whether tomorrow is 1.x trillion or not. |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00079906 = 9.309 BTC [+] |
| 10:40 |
VanCleef |
question is mpex a registered business? |
| 10:41 |
nubbins` |
Diablo-D3: they fail at html too |
| 10:41 |
nubbins` |
brutal layout |
| 10:41 |
Diablo-D3 |
VanCleef: not in any nation that metters |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
VanCleef mpex is a bitcoin business. |
| 10:42 |
VanCleef |
okey, but is it incoporated? |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
as a bitcoin business. |
| 10:43 |
VanCleef |
ohokey cool,like in the country you live or is it offshored? |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it does not live in any country. it. is. a. bitcoin. business. |
| 10:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04517499 = 0.7228 BTC [-] {6} |
| 10:43 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 'six fucking months to break down the male blocks on killing, and even then it only works sorta 50-50' << i've yet to see this confirmed for homo sapiens vs. homo americanus circa 1940s |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform but we were discussing homo americanus neh ? |
| 10:44 |
VanCleef |
hehe ok so i guess its not incoporated ina traditional sense,like google or facebook is |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
not any more than google or facebook are incorporated in a proper sense, such as mpex is. |
| 10:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 695 @ 0.00015014 = 0.1043 BTC [-] {3} |
| 10:45 |
VanCleef |
gotcha |
| 10:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04481 = 0.2689 BTC [-] |
| 10:49 |
asciilifeform |
emmy noether was a titan. i suspect that we still haven't fully digested her output. |
| 10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
im not the only one catching up on logs huh |
| 10:50 |
asciilifeform |
what 'physicist' living today is fit even to be beheaded by noether. |
| 10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform beheaded may be going a little far, but la petite mort however... |
| 10:51 |
asciilifeform |
;;google kaishakunin |
| 10:51 |
gribble |
Kaishakunin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaishakunin>; The fine art of seppuku: <http://www.win.net/ratsnest/archive-articles21/fog0000000384.html>; Kaishakunin.com - IT-Sicherheitsberatung Magdeburg - Stefan ...: <http://www.kaishakunin.com/> |
| 10:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15398 @ 0.00079777 = 12.2841 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:57 |
nubbins` |
hmm |
| 10:57 |
nubbins` |
that's a euphemism |
| 10:57 |
nubbins` |
and reminds me of a website i came across years ago |
| 10:58 |
nubbins` |
http://www.beautifulagony.com/public/main.php |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
haha |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
old news |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
it had cultural impact though: |
| 10:59 |
asciilifeform |
in russian sf writer viktor pelevin's epic 'SNUFF', the descendants of the americans (living in a mostly broken-down antigrav ship over what remains of russia) continue to decay, |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
feminists raised 'age of consent' to 46 |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
so most porn that anyone would be willing to see is classified as 'child' and forbidden |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
so the officially permitted porn consists of watching the censor's faces as they view the forbidden |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i've seen some pretty hot 50yos... |
| 11:00 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
and it becomes known as 'derivative porn' or 'Derp' for short. |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
viewing Derp becomes a mark of a 'cultured' man |
| 11:01 |
asciilifeform |
and everybody pretends to like it. |
| 11:02 |
Diablo-D3 |
I would like to classify feminists as girls who are afraid to grow up and become women |
| 11:03 |
nubbins` |
i would like to sit back and have a lel as you folks define feminism |
| 11:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04629946 = 0.1852 BTC [+] {3} |
| 11:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.01587764 = 1.5878 BTC [-] {13} |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the mistaken notion that while socialism (ie, the salvation of the members of the group through recourse to the group) doesn't work, subsets of this (such as, the salvation of women by recourse to the group) do somehow magically work. |
| 11:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.0007977 = 4.7631 BTC [-] |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
because for people that were too fucking lazy and high on their own farts to pay attention in school, |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
proving something like x^2 > 2x is not sufficient, we then have to go individually and show that 4^2 > 8, 5^2 > 10 etc etc |
| 11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
"thinking", in america. |
| 11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] |
| 11:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00591538 = 0.1124 BTC [+] {3} |
| 11:16 |
artifexd |
nubbins` Revisit your mark-karpeles link and lol |
| 11:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.072 = 0.216 BTC [-] |
| 11:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
<MisterE> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/scientist-devised-crypto-attack-could-one-day-steal-secret-bitcoin-keys/ >>>> is it just me or is this whole article moot in regards to Bitcoin, being that no one uses Intel to mine and even malware was made it would have to somehow run on the ASIC system of the chosen device? |
| 11:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.00599369 = 0.1319 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-] |
| 11:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
blackwhite those quotes are ridiculous |
| 11:25 |
TomServo |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/buffett-s-board-opposes-shareholder-s-dividend-proposal.html |
| 11:25 |
TomServo |
Shareholder David Witt, who has a stake valued at about $8,650 based on yesterday’s closing price, proposed the measure, stating that Berkshire has “more money than it needs” and that the board should consider the investors who aren’t billionaires. |
| 11:25 |
blackwhite |
well that might be but thats hardly an argument :) |
| 11:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
indeed |
| 11:25 |
blackwhite |
it doesn't really matter cause even if it has a point it's not really the point. |
| 11:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
right |
| 11:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
the decimal doesnt matter |
| 11:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
and no economic shockwaves will happen due to it or bitcoin's eventual shift from inflationary to static supply |
| 11:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00079759 = 31.5048 BTC [-] {3} |
| 11:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
what was the source link again? |
| 11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://bitcoindev.us.to/en/developer-guide |
| 11:30 |
ozbot |
Developer Guide - Bitcoin |
| 11:38 |
bounce |
skipped the standard issue FUDwords artcle for the abstract of the paper. it reads like the ecdsa equivalent of the cache hit/miss sidechannel gpg key snatch. ie, don't run bitcoin transactions on shared or even virtual anything boxes. no running wallets on ec2, say. |
| 11:38 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: isn't everyone tired of cache timing attach being 'reinvented' every month and pushed as a great discovery? |
| 11:38 |
asciilifeform |
*attack |
| 11:39 |
Apocalyptic |
I for one am |
| 11:39 |
asciilifeform |
this almost calls for a memecat graphic or the like. |
| 11:39 |
asciilifeform |
'old attack is old.' |
| 11:39 |
Apocalyptic |
and that applies to all these timing side channels attacks |
| 11:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
ah i somehow assumed they were talking about mining for some reason |
| 11:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
probably from reading all that primecoin pw log |
| 11:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
pow* |
| 11:41 |
asciilifeform |
yes, letting enemy run code on the box where you crypto is dumb. news at 11. |
| 11:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2206 @ 0.00014942 = 0.3296 BTC [-] {5} |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not even fucking hard to reimplement gpg without caching |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
or for that matter, with fake cache hits for the lulz. |
| 11:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2202 @ 0.000149 = 0.3281 BTC [-] |
| 11:45 |
asciilifeform |
still foolish to rely on x86 'rings' for isolation of something genuinely important |
| 11:49 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform man no one talks about the rings anymore |
| 11:49 |
thestringpuller |
lets isolate execution! |
| 11:50 |
asciilifeform |
x86 reminds me of certain old soviet apartments, with toilet in the kitchen behind a curtain. |
| 11:50 |
thestringpuller |
hahahahaha wow... |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/ |
| 11:52 |
ozbot |
âYou cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong.â |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
in which i'm incredibly fucking mean. |
| 11:52 |
asciilifeform |
lol tom knight |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
;) |
| 11:53 |
asciilifeform |
those rats |
| 11:53 |
asciilifeform |
fellow i know from india (former physicist) confirmed the famous rat temple |
| 11:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00080078 = 40.9999 BTC [+] {3} |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
said to me, 'i went there before any serious maths exam.' |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
yup |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
yer supposed to let them nibble on your toes for a bit |
| 11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i prefer less fertile mammals nibbling on my toes. |
| 11:55 |
Diablo-D3 |
[11:52:16] <mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/ |
| 11:56 |
Diablo-D3 |
unless it runs windows |
| 11:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1150 @ 0.00085455 = 0.9827 BTC [-] {5} |
| 11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
arguably that you can never fix |
| 11:56 |
Diablo-D3 |
and its the step on the list before reinstalling windows |
| 11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
even if you do know what's going wrong |
| 11:56 |
Diablo-D3 |
mircea_popescu: yeah |
| 11:56 |
Diablo-D3 |
windows is just fubar |
| 11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.23928170 BTC to 3`785 shares, 59162 satoshi per share |
| 11:59 |
VanCleef |
sfi what a fail |
| 12:01 |
pLambert |
SFI is an "idea" company? |
| 12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's an idea that funds ideas |
| 12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
llegedly |
| 12:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
a |
| 12:03 |
thestringpuller |
that's an amazing idea |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 12:03 |
VanCleef |
what you working on atm ThickAsThieves ? |
| 12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
an amazing amazing |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
a pair of twins. |
| 12:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
VanCleef, I am at a fork in the road |
| 12:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
having trouble choosing |
| 12:04 |
VanCleef |
hmmmm? |
| 12:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
to be even less descriptive, I'm not sure what I want to do next |
| 12:05 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.arkinspace.com/2011/06/holy-rats-of-karni-mata.html |
| 12:05 |
ozbot |
The Holy Rats of Karni Mata ~ The Ark In Space |
| 12:06 |
VanCleef |
yeh i think i'm the same atm, bitfunder really cursed me, cant seem to make any winning moves since then |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/24/article-2545066-1AEB2EEB00000578-272_634x822.jpg |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
'que es ser exitosa hoy" |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll probably dedicate my retirement to loling my ass off over fringe repackaging of anglosaxon bs. |
| 12:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8723 @ 0.00080337 = 7.0078 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:08 |
VanCleef |
what's the craziest thing you'vedone in thelast 2 months mircea? |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the shit i do ain't crazy, it has its own internal logic. |
| 12:09 |
VanCleef |
i mean the most fun |
| 12:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
he means, tell us a story |
| 12:09 |
VanCleef |
ya |
| 12:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz yknow, trilema isnt big enough |
| 12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
ya totally. |
| 12:10 |
nubbins` |
TIL you can freeze old cheddar with impunity |
| 12:10 |
VanCleef |
outside of btc world :) |
| 12:10 |
nubbins` |
idly wondering why the fuck nobody told me this before |
| 12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` most hard cheeses freeze just fine, tho the purists don't want to admit it. |
| 12:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
since i dont think it was linked yet http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/14/buffett-stay-away-from-bitcoin/?mod=WSJBlog |
| 12:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
“Stay away from it,” he said, according to a transcript. “It’s a mirage basically.” |
| 12:13 |
VanCleef |
oh yeah i was reading that before, uncle buff makes some good points |
| 12:13 |
nubbins` |
read that earlier |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
“I hope bitcoin becomes a better way of doing it,” he said, but “the idea that it has intrinsic value is a joke.” |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think buffet ran out of good points |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
it doesn't have intrinsic value |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
it has a lot of economic goodwill, of the actual varietyt |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
as opposed to the accounting variety. |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
uncle buff should know all about it, or at least did, cca early 80s |
| 12:13 |
pLambert |
mircea_popescu: you seem to hate on NEOBEE much, you think they will fail? |
| 12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert i have a very low oppinion of their ceo is all. |
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| 12:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2221 @ 0.000149 = 0.3309 BTC [-] {3} |
| 12:15 |
nubbins` |
cheese sandwiches are divine |
| 12:15 |
mircea_popescu |
this has little to do with failure or success, you know, even a blind dog gets a duck once. |
| 12:15 |
nubbins` |
old cheddar, red onion, orange bell pepper, mixed greens, mayo on sourdough |
| 12:16 |
nubbins` |
i'd masturbate if my hands were free |
| 12:16 |
VanCleef |
i dont know if you guys use cryptostocks but there's like 1 guy on there running about 5 scams atm, its shitty |
| 12:16 |
mircea_popescu |
that sounds epic |
| 12:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
it took a long time to sort them, but it turns out there are some pretty good vegan cheeses being made |
| 12:16 |
nubbins` |
wow, really? |
| 12:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
many many horrible ones |
| 12:16 |
mircea_popescu |
VanCleef im just sitting back and enjoying deprived's predicament re cryptoscammocks,. atm |
| 12:16 |
Apocalyptic |
VanCleef, a well known fact cryptostocks is full of scams |
| 12:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeahm you just have to know each cheese's place |
| 12:16 |
VanCleef |
i'm sure there's a couple of good gems in there |
| 12:16 |
nubbins` |
what are they made from? soy? |
| 12:17 |
VanCleef |
cannabit seems alright |
| 12:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
they are not nearly as flexible |
| 12:17 |
VanCleef |
tho share price is doing badly |
| 12:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
if i recall, i dont like any soy cheeses |
| 12:18 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/portugal-cove-farmer-hopes-to-grow-medical-marijuana-1.2568583 |
| 12:18 |
nubbins` |
right on |
| 12:18 |
ozbot |
Portugal Cove farmer hopes to grow medical marijuana - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News |
| 12:18 |
nubbins` |
that's like a 20 minute drive |
| 12:19 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/0HT0F4g |
| 12:19 |
ozbot |
Whoever makes the MtGox story TV special, please get Randy from Trailer Park |
| 12:19 |
nubbins` |
leel |
| 12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
cads i doubt the square of x and -x can count as different problems in this context. |
| 12:20 |
VanCleef |
i was watching this report on colorado w33d vendors who had 2 problems, 1. they couldn't get business bank accounts cause banks were scared 2. they were dealing with massif loads of cash and had to hire like ex mercenary types of p33ps to move the fiat for them. |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/14/did-russia-just-dump-its-treasury-holdings/?mod=WSJBlog |
| 12:21 |
ozbot |
Did Russia Just Dump Its Treasury Holdings? - MoneyBeat - WSJ |
| 12:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
vancleef didnt obama tell banks to ease up on weed growers? |
| 12:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
dunno if that actually matters |
| 12:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i think he may have |
| 12:22 |
VanCleef |
i dont know i tune out whenever oh bummer talks |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
MisterE: looks like Stamp is the new king <<< markets centralize. |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6944 @ 0.00079968 = 5.553 BTC [-] |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
Neil i was curious what your estimated jtd would be, at the time of the 2nd tranche ipo of mpoe. ie, two years ago to the day. |
| 12:24 |
VanCleef |
in the future people will be saying "man i just got stamped" |
| 12:24 |
pLambert |
doesn't have the same ring as I just got Goxxed, but it makes more sense linguistically |
| 12:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
why not keep saying goxed |
| 12:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
dont let that nigga live it down |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
blackwhite none of those pieces of crud are arguments. they're just flaming ignorance being stubbornly presented by people who are too haughty to read trilema. all that shit's been debunked there cca 2012. |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
that aside, neil has it :D |
| 12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ahaha poor spitoon what a wot. |
| 12:28 |
nubbins` |
i know hey? |
| 12:28 |
nubbins` |
it's almost too good to leave ratings on |
| 12:28 |
VanCleef |
hehe tat |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed lol |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
Neil the thing is, unless bitcoin gets to make the rules we're wasting our time here. |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin isn't "a currency" nor much of a "medium of exchange" at all. it's a substitute for government is what it is. in all its forms, from actual electoral validation processes to deciding where you eat today, and how much. |
| 12:31 |
nubbins` |
^ it's true, bitcoin chose the cheese sandwich for me |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
aristotle's politics just became second rate in the field of revolutionary. nakamoto's paper easily takes the top spot |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` funny but true, ye know ? |
| 12:32 |
nubbins` |
bit of a convoluted process, but yeah |
| 12:33 |
nubbins` |
hmm, sourdough starter for btc, shipped worldwide |
| 12:33 |
* |
nubbins` thinks about this |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
Nubbins' Dough ? |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
(accept no substitutes) |
| 12:33 |
chetty |
customs just might object nubbins' |
| 12:33 |
nubbins` |
the starter itself is just a wild yeast colony that lives in a home of flour and water |
| 12:34 |
nubbins` |
chetty, maybe -- i know lots of places in san francisco ship dried starter worldwide |
| 12:35 |
nubbins` |
it's the sort of thing that you could make yourself from scratch, but why do that when you can purchase an established starter that's already developed its own taste and characteristics? |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` thought : whether you do this or not, do the following : make a website follow the generations. |
| 12:35 |
chetty |
cause catching the yeast yourself is more fun! |
| 12:35 |
nubbins` |
sourdough pedigree |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
then if you actually sell it down the road, you have a history. if you scrap the thing, whatever. a website. |
| 12:36 |
nubbins` |
chetty: it really is :) |
| 12:36 |
nubbins` |
i made mine from scratch about a year and a half ago |
| 12:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
Dat Dough Dough |
| 12:38 |
nubbins` |
there are places in san fran that have been using the same starter for >150 years |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i heard that too yeah |
| 12:38 |
nubbins` |
pretty much a different species at that point |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
well, a subspecies |
| 12:38 |
nubbins` |
er yeah, that's what i meant ;( |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
tho... i don't suppose they actually are isolated you know ? |
| 12:39 |
nubbins` |
"it's not even yeast anymore!" |
| 12:39 |
nubbins` |
well, as much as possible |
| 12:39 |
chetty |
it does improve with age, mostly |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
new bugs fall in and contribute genetic material prolly all the time |
| 12:39 |
nubbins` |
the big no-no is feeding your starter with anything but plain white flour |
| 12:39 |
nubbins` |
that said, yeast is in the air all around us |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
BitChrista you type in the lower bar thing to talk |
| 12:40 |
nubbins` |
you can train your starter, too |
| 12:40 |
nubbins` |
get it used to different feeding schedules |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
that does something ? |
| 12:40 |
nubbins` |
some people feed 2x daily, others 1x |
| 12:40 |
nubbins` |
the starter adapts pretty easily |
| 12:41 |
nubbins` |
anyway bbl gotta install some venting |
| 12:41 |
chetty |
good grief, once a week is plenty |
| 12:41 |
BitChrista |
Thanks Mircea_Popescu |
| 12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
!t h neobee |
| 12:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00311050 / 0.00349835 / 0.00379999 (4434 shares, 15.51167558 BTC), 7D: 0.00299999 / 0.00354983 / 0.00436789 (98844 shares, 350.87894318 BTC), 30D: 0.00275000 / 0.00435665 / 0.00600000 (650572 shares, 2834.31458311 BTC) |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
;;tslb |
| 12:43 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 12 minutes and 55 seconds |
| 12:43 |
BitChrista |
mircea_popescu, what wuestions do you have about CoinVox? |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
floor just fell out of mining again, ridiculous. |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
BitChrista well, what is it, what does it do ? |
| 12:44 |
BitChrista |
We are a payment processing platform that allows politicians/ people running for office to accept donations in Bitcoin. |
| 12:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ah that! |
| 12:44 |
mircea_popescu |
so do you have some particular angle for that market that puts you in a better position than say bitpay ? |
| 12:44 |
BitChrista |
Soon they will be able to accept all cryptocurrencies. We will likely branch out to non-profits and social impact as well |
| 12:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
how does it differ from them accepting it directly or via coinbase/bitpay? |
| 12:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
do you handle AML or such? |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
bitbet is in crazy mode again, doing 50 btc a day and shit. |
| 12:46 |
BitChrista |
There are many regulations for politicians already with just accepting cash donations, It's a little trickier with Bitcoin. I also work for a web marketing company that works with candidates so we know all the regulations and compliance. So we just have the upperhand in the fact that we know how to stay in legal boundaries. |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a us only thing is it ? |
| 12:47 |
BitChrista |
ThickAsThieves, I'm sure we will encounter AML at some point but haven't yet. |
| 12:47 |
BitChrista |
We want everything to be done legally, no laundering. |
| 12:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thought you worked with politicians?! ;) |
| 12:48 |
BitChrista |
Haha right |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 12:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
mp all the best bets are diff ones |
| 12:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe a market to target |
| 12:48 |
BitChrista |
Even though we are non-partisan, I'm excited because we know which party has all the Bitcoin |
| 12:49 |
BitChrista |
muahaha |
| 12:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
wait you alreadt have huh |
| 12:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
you said something about advertising cex.io |
| 12:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
but the reverse might be good |
| 12:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 804 @ 0.00594365 = 4.7787 BTC [+] {5} |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah the diff bets are a major part of bitbet, mostly because it's one of the few places where btc holders are well connected to the economy. |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
BitChrista so are you keeping a list of "Best For Bitcoin" politicos somewhere ? |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
like an issues-group or how you call them ? |
| 12:50 |
chetty |
BitChrista I doubt many bitcoiners are either party really |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
score all reps etc |
| 12:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00599996 = 0.9 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think she is implying Libertarians |
| 12:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz Erik has all the coins |
| 12:51 |
mircea_popescu |
aren't the winklejesusii democrat ? |
| 12:51 |
mircea_popescu |
and also branson, and a number of other people who have little to nothing to do with bitcoin ? |
| 12:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
winkles wont hold those coins for long |
| 12:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the mtgoxbtc they had you mean ? |
| 12:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
heh |
| 12:52 |
mircea_popescu |
they'll prolly hold it undisturbed to judgement day |
| 12:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
possibly |
| 12:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
plus isnt their whole ETF to sell the coins? |
| 12:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6074969 = 1.215 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh yeah nubbins, i wanted to note that toffoo also had a top 5000 account on that gox trader list |
| 12:53 |
BitChrista |
mircea_popescu, I've been doing some research. I have a solid list, mostly of those running for congress. People are starting to come to us though which is nice |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
In insurance, as elsewhere, the reaction of weak managements to weak operations is often weak accounting. (Its difficult for an empty sack to stand upright.) |
| 12:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
something like 2500+ |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta love buffy, the bezzle slayer |
| 12:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.60891383 = 4.2624 BTC [+] {6} |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
BitChrista that's nice. anyway, fyi, this is the place where bitcoin finance is hatched, so, probably worth your time to lurk. |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta meet politics with finance or else what good is it. |
| 12:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.61485448 = 13.5268 BTC [+] {6} |
| 12:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves toffoo is old time, prolly pre-2013 most of it |
| 12:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah |
| 12:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
an important thing to keep in mind looking at the list |
| 12:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
which is now gone anyway |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6149999 BTC [+] |
| 12:56 |
BitChrista |
mircea_popescu thank you for introducing me to this chat room. I completely agree, once Bitcoin is in politics it'll be untouchable. |
| 12:56 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
| 12:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6184 = 3.092 BTC [+] |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
there's about a billion or so worth of bitcoins represented here, and likely more reachable because the logs make popular morning newspapers for many people |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
so yeah. |
| 12:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
most likely way itll end up in politics and wall st is via greed though |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
ofcourse. |
| 12:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
good luck have worthy representatives in that case |
| 12:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
having* |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
there's more to be made serving bitcoin interest than serving ws interest today, for the young aspiring politician |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
he just needs enough of a clue to figure that out. |
| 12:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess any motivation to have people with a clue going into politics is helpful |
| 12:59 |
chetty |
they will, politicians smell money |
| 12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the situation is roughly similar with "there's more to be made financing silicon valley cca 1960 than financing banking or energy sector stocks". |
| 13:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
currently i |
| 13:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
'm not sure why anything worth anything would choose a life in politics |
| 13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a challenge. |
| 13:01 |
Duffer1 |
the whore olympics |
| 13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
don't knock it till you rode it duffy. |
| 13:02 |
* |
mircea_popescu was a politician for most of his lyf. |
| 13:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
why stop? |
| 13:03 |
BitChrista |
mircea_popescu were you really? I feel like that would weather someone down fast |
| 13:03 |
Duffer1 |
wow i did not see that coming MP |
| 13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i got bored. |
| 13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
BitChrista if you think that'd wear someone down, try being mp for a week :D |
| 13:03 |
BitChrista |
mircea_popescu Haha! |
| 13:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
i can understand that for sure |
| 13:03 |
nubbins` |
chetty: once a week?! your poor starter :( |
| 13:03 |
Duffer1 |
being american i suppose i forgot there's non american politics out there.. |
| 13:04 |
BitChrista |
Still, please show me a *happy* politician |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you gotta appreciate, romanian politics 1990-2005 much more interesting than anything anyone's seen i nthe us. |
| 13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
with perhaps the exception of chicago. |
| 13:04 |
nubbins` |
chetty: well, to be fair, that's fine for maintenance -- i've gone as long as two months without feeding mine and successfully revived it -- but i bake every 3 or 4 days |
| 13:04 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: saw toffoo's name there. half of -otc is on the list |
| 13:05 |
nubbins` |
lightbox is on there ;D |
| 13:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.61929699 = 6.8123 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [-] |
| 13:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00609999 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {3} |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, for self-c0k stroking purposes : i was one in the "secret circle" of romanian national liberal party, which went from making 3% in an alliance to making its own government by the time i left romania. |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
then i quit it in 2008, at the time it was in power. it looks like it will make... about 3% next electoral cycle. |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
so... yeah. it was all me. |
| 13:05 |
nubbins` |
liberal party! |
| 13:05 |
Apocalyptic |
.d |
| 13:05 |
ozbot |
4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1782 blocks | Estimated Change: 0.6603% in 12d 6h 49m 59s |
| 13:05 |
nubbins` |
ain't no party like a liberal party |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` in the east liberal means you know, right of conservative. |
| 13:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00613366 = 0.3435 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
this socialist re-defining of liberal is a purely us thing. |
| 13:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
like re-defining democrat |
| 13:06 |
mircea_popescu |
or everything else. |
| 13:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
ideas! |
| 13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
but yeah, liberal canonically means, no government, no regulation, free market etc. |
| 13:07 |
nubbins` |
funny how it means the opposite some places now |
| 13:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
i watched Atlas Shrugged Part 2 last night |
| 13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
in romanian parlance of the time, the opposition (ie, what the us bipartisanly does) was called.... communism. |
| 13:07 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: and you still have your eyes? |
| 13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
in the sense that "this is just the old pcr stuff rehashed" |
| 13:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
| 13:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
it was tough |
| 13:08 |
nubbins` |
ayn rand is a pretty big lel |
| 13:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04629947 = 0.2778 BTC [+] |
| 13:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00613418 = 0.2576 BTC [+] {3} |
| 13:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont understand why they are dragging it out over so many installments |
| 13:08 |
nubbins` |
shoulda called it "readers shrugged" |
| 13:08 |
Duffer1 |
ask ayn rand |
| 13:08 |
asciilifeform |
does Ro still have a classical communist party? |
| 13:08 |
Duffer1 |
it's all about dat paper |
| 13:08 |
nubbins` |
Duffer1: we can't because she died on welfare D; |
| 13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it was made illegal in 1990 iirc. |
| 13:08 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
| 13:09 |
nubbins` |
canada has a communist party, can't say i know much about their operations |
| 13:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it might, as a private joke of some bored people somewhere |
| 13:09 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: i think that one is of the same variety as cpusa |
| 13:09 |
mircea_popescu |
cpusa still a thing ? |
| 13:09 |
nubbins` |
they might get a vote or two every federal election |
| 13:09 |
asciilifeform |
might be just some guy now. it was 100% moscow funded, afaik |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform so was it teh putin that sold all those bonds earlier ? |
| 13:10 |
asciilifeform |
ask him, not me |
| 13:10 |
nubbins` |
about 30% of it was me exiting my position |
| 13:10 |
asciilifeform |
but it does smell like 'warning shot' |
| 13:10 |
nubbins` |
LEL I KID |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
it does yeah. |
| 13:12 |
nubbins` |
pascale agreed to do a 3-hour screenprinting class down at the textiles school today |
| 13:13 |
nubbins` |
poor woman |
| 13:13 |
asciilifeform |
rand is a kind of niche cult figure here in usa. |
| 13:13 |
nubbins` |
asciilifeform: for reasons i still don't quite understand |
| 13:13 |
nubbins` |
but hey, people were into limp bizkit |
| 13:13 |
nubbins` |
no accounting for taste |
| 13:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck this hard drive is going |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
it's not often i give up on a book partway through |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
quite infrequently after i pass the 400-page mark |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
but man oh man |
| 13:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: they don't sell 'raid5' boards where you live? |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
atlas shrugged... what a fuckin beat-off |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it's just an ancient system doing various net stuff |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
but the drive just clicked |
| 13:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: swap it for 'ssd' - but specifically, one several times larger than necessary |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
im never using ssd, fuck that shit. |
| 13:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 'write levelling' will give you a good 5+ years of life. |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
i may be the only buyer left for spun drives and crt monitors in a 100 mile radius |
| 13:17 |
asciilifeform |
i refuse to run spun drives other than in a r5 harness of 4+ |
| 13:17 |
Apocalyptic |
crt monitors, really ? |
| 13:17 |
nubbins` |
dem rays |
| 13:17 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic ayup. the magic that you know and love as my endless spam is hatched on electron excitated phosphorus coatings. |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
i got rid of my last crt a couple years ago, a huge trinitron |
| 13:18 |
asciilifeform |
(spun drives from golden age is another matter. i have a 1985 seagate that still runs.) |
| 13:18 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: did ya pop it? |
| 13:18 |
mod6 |
holy shit asciilifeform |
| 13:18 |
nubbins` |
very satisfying |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this was if memory serves a 1992 seagate. |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.04629967 = 1.852 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
no i gave to some disposal place |
| 13:18 |
nubbins` |
shame |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
it was a 24"er |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
massive |
| 13:18 |
nubbins` |
you have to pay $50 to leave a crt at the dump here |
| 13:18 |
nubbins` |
but they mostly turn a blind eye |
| 13:19 |
nubbins` |
given that the alternative is illegal dumping, of which there's already too much |
| 13:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00334 = 0.1503 BTC [-] |
| 13:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
we have a nonprofit that handles it |
| 13:20 |
mircea_popescu |
i think you actually get paid here |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
makes sense, isnt there like 8lbs of lead in the big ones |
| 13:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/userdata/prodpics/PRODPIC-22982-1.jpg |
| 13:21 |
asciilifeform |
one of these. |
| 13:21 |
asciilifeform |
(pictured is 'maxtor', of same shape) |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, they mostly reuse them. as long as you give it up clean/sorted (ie, not covered in rotten meatjuices or w/e common garbage) they usually give you a few cents/kg |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
most people just leave the stuff outside on set dates for the dump workers to collect it (they get the respective cents themselkves, sort of like a tip) |
| 13:22 |
asciilifeform |
if you love crts, learn to fix them. it isn't optional |
| 13:22 |
asciilifeform |
afaik trinitron tube is no longer made. |
| 13:22 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/blood-donor-payments-to-be-outlawed-in-ontario-1.2572496 |
| 13:22 |
ozbot |
Blood donor payments to be outlawed in Ontario - Health - CBC News |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform or live in a country where they fix shit. |
| 13:22 |
nubbins` |
^ not sure if i'm for or against |
| 13:23 |
nubbins` |
on one hand, great way to get people to give blood |
| 13:23 |
nubbins` |
on the other hand, great way to get junkies to lie about their past |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
im against. Blutgeld ! |
| 13:23 |
nubbins` |
on the other other hand, they test all the blood anyway |
| 13:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
mp i wonder if part of your reason for needing super large text isnt your crt ;) |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't need it! i like it! there's a difference! |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and a good crt is way better than the best lcd/lft we you'll ever find. |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
great for low-rez porn i guess |
| 13:24 |
nubbins` |
anyway these "paid donation clinics" weren't even operated by canadian blood services, nor were they collecting for transfusions |
| 13:25 |
nubbins` |
if CBS has a problem w/ shortages, maybe they should stop banning queers from donating blood |
| 13:25 |
nubbins` |
JUST A THOUGHT |
| 13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you know designers/print process ppl etc mostly use crts to this day |
| 13:25 |
nubbins` |
pantone or nothin' baby, don't trust the screen |
| 13:25 |
asciilifeform |
there exists lcd that is acceptable substitute for a trinitron. $2K+. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk. |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
not in my experience, but i could see some doing it |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
i had one for very long |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
uh. what, srsly ? |
| 13:26 |
nubbins` |
srsly |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` an electron cannon you can actually calibrate to work. |
| 13:26 |
asciilifeform |
two vendors i know of - 'eizo' and 'barco' |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
but once i saw the large Apple monitors |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
these led things, not yet. |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
i couldng go back |
| 13:26 |
asciilifeform |
notice apple not in the list. |
| 13:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
now i use the cheapo versions |
| 13:27 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: not a big deal if you can't also calibrate the client's monitor |
| 13:27 |
asciilifeform |
apple does not make optics |
| 13:27 |
asciilifeform |
they use, afaik, 'sharp' matrices. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` but you're controlling the print process, what's the client to do |
| 13:27 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: provide pantone colors ;) |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk |
| 13:27 |
asciilifeform |
serious lcds (mentioned above) come with a kind of hockey puck with calibration sensors |
| 13:27 |
pLambert |
is there an api call that returns the number of shares of mpex stocks? |
| 13:27 |
asciilifeform |
it plugs into jack in the back |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah i used to calibrate all my shit with expensive stuff |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert no, the way this is done is that dividends and contracts list the share count. |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
drove me crazy when i'd hunch over an employee whose monitor was outta whack |
| 13:28 |
pLambert |
so I have to read through the contracts and find the shares outstanding? |
| 13:28 |
nubbins` |
ThickAsThieves: amusing how often people don't realize |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
amazing really |
| 13:28 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert either that or parse the div payments |
| 13:28 |
nubbins` |
"why is everything tinted blue?" "what do you mean?" |
| 13:29 |
pLambert |
how do I get the div payments? |
| 13:29 |
nubbins` |
then ya fix it and they say "but it's all red now" |
| 13:29 |
nubbins` |
facepalm |
| 13:29 |
asciilifeform |
the proper 'eizo' can be had used/surplus for $1k or so. |
| 13:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
another huge pet peeve i have is when the wife watches the non-hd tv channels |
| 13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00041694 = 0.4169 BTC [-] {5} |
| 13:29 |
pLambert |
is there a list somewhere of api commands? |
| 13:29 |
nubbins` |
^ hif took a dive |
| 13:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
she doesnt care at all |
| 13:30 |
nubbins` |
i guess i'm not the only person who noticed topace/lightbox on that gox list |
| 13:30 |
nubbins` |
;p |
| 13:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 13:30 |
asciilifeform |
i find it strange that people would skimp on a device that they stare at for 12+ hrs/day. |
| 13:30 |
nubbins` |
asciilifeform: monitors and chairs |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
Mar 04 11:22:27 <assbot>[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 4,050.17291466 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 810 satoshi per share |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert ^ like that |
| 13:30 |
pLambert |
nubbins`: HIF is still 4x my bid |
| 13:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9611 @ 0.00080389 = 7.7262 BTC [+] |
| 13:30 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: don't forget - also, keyboards. |
| 13:30 |
nubbins` |
pLambert: fifty cents say no divs this quarter |
| 13:31 |
pLambert |
just this quarter? how bout this year? |
| 13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
divs are overrated anyway |
| 13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
a sad sympthom of a cash starved community of shoelace investors. |
| 13:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
HIF was always insultingly overpriced |
| 13:32 |
pLambert |
says the guy who has the best track record of paying divs in bitcoins? |
| 13:32 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 13:32 |
nubbins` |
pLambert: fair enough |
| 13:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: you have what, SGI crt? |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert well yeah, but still. what's the average dividend across nyse index, 1950 to 1970 ? |
| 13:32 |
nubbins` |
unforseen expenses mumble mumble growth mumble |
| 13:32 |
pLambert |
I have no idea? |
| 13:33 |
nubbins` |
say, what type of cooking oil does everyone use? |
| 13:33 |
nubbins` |
a bit OT, i know |
| 13:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
we actually had some cooking oil discussion once |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform currently a 21 inch dell thing. i used to have a splendid 24 inch sony but hey. |
| 13:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
mostly about burning points |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
that's why i was asking |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
i use evoo (a waste for frying, really) and it smokes too quickly |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` corn or olive |
| 13:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
Sony always flirting with being known for quality, then always fucking it up by being weird |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
tho i mostly use butter. it's better for you :D |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
i may switch to canola for frying |
| 13:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
i use mostly olive |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
patriotic too ;p |
| 13:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i dont deep fry |
| 13:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
other than that 1 week |
| 13:36 |
nubbins` |
deep frying in the home is fuckin gross |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
pLambert http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/goog/dividend-history :p |
| 13:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
goog keeps saying theyre gonna split |
| 13:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
but never happens |
| 13:36 |
nubbins` |
i know some cast iron aficionados who only ever use bacon grease |
| 13:36 |
nubbins` |
but i don't really eat bacon |
| 13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete yul killed in that king of siam role :D |
| 13:37 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:38 |
nubbins` |
it's funny, the guy who runs javaranch.com (a friendly place for greenhorns!) turned me onto cast iron |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i have a pot too. they're good for many things. |
| 13:39 |
nubbins` |
anyone who spent any amount of time writing java is likely familiar with the site; few realize the guy who runs it is a real simple-living guy |
| 13:39 |
nubbins` |
nod |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
like shrimp. |
| 13:39 |
nubbins` |
teflon and other non-stick coatings are the biggest con |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
you can never get the shrimp properly cooked other than in a cast iron pot. |
| 13:40 |
nubbins` |
http://www.richsoil.com/cast-iron.jsp |
| 13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete bt otherwise your article suffers from a very strangely naive approach. ever heard of a dicelist ? |
| 13:41 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:41 |
nubbins` |
i was in awe the first time i saw someone cook an omelette on cast iron |
| 13:41 |
nubbins` |
it SLID off the fucking pan onto the plate. |
| 13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
yup |
| 13:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.0007988 = 25.4018 BTC [-] {3} |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/octopus-omlette/ << example. |
| 13:42 |
ozbot |
Octopus omlette pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 13:42 |
nubbins` |
canned octopus |
| 13:42 |
nubbins` |
:o |
| 13:42 |
tim-tams |
bingoboingo |
| 13:43 |
nubbins` |
shamefully, it's impossible to buy a proper cast iron pan (i.e. one with a machined bottom) these days |
| 13:43 |
nubbins` |
you gotta do all the legwork yourself |
| 13:43 |
nubbins` |
or buy one on ebay from a rube who never bothered to learn how to use it |
| 13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete ah i see it's in the footnote. but yeah, the select from a page process is very dubious (natural languages don't have equally distributed words, it's actually how zipf curves were discovered in the first palce) |
| 13:45 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25489 @ 0.00080389 = 20.4904 BTC [+] |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"Lenin seems to have believed that the party, as organized consciousness, consciousness as a decision-making machinery, had superior reasoning power. Indeed, in time this collective body took on an aura of infallibility, which was later elevated to a dogma, and a members loyalty was tested, in part, by his acceptance of it. It became part of the communist confession of faith to proclaim that the party was never wron |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
g.... The party itself never makes mistakes." |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly, this is narrowly mirrored by the all too fashionable ideea these days that there's some sort of wisdo min the crowds. |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
people firmly believe that codebases magically improve just by adding to them the *possibility* that someone might have read them |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
open source infallibility, the notion that wikipedia is in any sense an encyclopedia, everyone's obsession with crowd-sourcing and usg... |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really quite bolshevik, comrades. |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
(quote via rockwell's restatement of rothbard's rand commentary) |
| 13:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.00567945 = 1.1359 BTC [-] {8} |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
"In a development eerily reminiscent of the organized hatred directed against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in Orwells 1984, Rand cultists were required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand; essential to the loyalty oath was a declaration that the signer would henceforth never read any future works of the apostate and arch-heretic Branden." |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha this shit actually hapepned, too. |
| 13:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 40.50883562 BTC to 80`674 shares, 50213 satoshi per share |
| 14:05 |
nubbins` |
amazing |
| 14:05 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 14:05 |
nubbins` |
...company |
| 14:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
so what's up with this NJ banning Tesla thing |
| 14:12 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: TIL saltyspitoon was 16 when pirate left that feedback :o |
| 14:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
is there an angle that isnt ridiculous? |
| 14:12 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. they're fucking dangerous. |
| 14:13 |
asciilifeform |
the electromobile firm? or some other tesla |
| 14:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
Tesla dealerships are dangerous? |
| 14:13 |
nubbins` |
BUT DANGEROUS TO WHOM |
| 14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
the one ton ion battery on wheels. |
| 14:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
to middlemen? |
| 14:14 |
nubbins` |
the future is dangerous to middlemen too |
| 14:14 |
* |
nubbins` calmly sharpens knives |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 14:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04629968 = 0.1389 BTC [+] |
| 14:14 |
asciilifeform |
if i recall, there were fuses between the smaller cells of which the battery was built. |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
nj wants to extract taxes out of the deal. if nj people get hurt, nj wants to profit at least. |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
seems legit. |
| 14:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thougt NJ already has a tax system for retail? |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i think they were exploiting a loophole |
| 14:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
ahhh |
| 14:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe these articles should lead with that |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
then they could charge for them |
| 14:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
these articles only speak of cutting out middle men and new franchise license requirements |
| 14:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
i see nothing of tax loopholes |
| 14:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
the concept of disallowing direct sales anywhere is what is boggling me |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
but the middle man makes some money, of which it pays some money. |
| 14:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
but isnt this about whats in the interest of the consumer? |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"if nj people get hurt, nj wants to profit at least." |
| 14:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
if it's about more opportunities to tax, why dont we have 3 layers of middle man |
| 14:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
the more the better! |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
also, afaik nj is an important lobby stronghold for importers in that market. |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
chris christie wants to protect his career, he can't piss off the larger players |
| 14:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
so people buy their Tesla in a surrounding state |
| 14:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
even worse |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly, let enough do that then slap a surcharge on them |
| 14:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
one more reason not to live in NJ i guess |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
but why, they'll make an electric carbit license. |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
best place to be. |
| 14:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
meh i need to think about somthing else |
| 14:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [-] |
| 14:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.techworm.net/2014/03/mt-gox-leak-archive-tricks-people-to.html |
| 14:27 |
ozbot |
Mt. Gox leak Archive tricks people to install Bitcoin stealer Malware. | TechWorm |
| 14:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
people are really still this dumb? |
| 14:27 |
Apocalyptic |
yes |
| 14:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
hacker is distributing an .exe |
| 14:27 |
asciilifeform |
'let's all boot up winblows and run this 700M exe of unknown provenance' |
| 14:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
open it up! |
| 14:27 |
Apocalyptic |
but it says tibannebackoffice ! |
| 14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves someone was saying a few days ago about all the bitching that thing caused in ##mtgox |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic was it just a renamed backoriffice for maximal lulz ? |
| 14:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
i imagine many were saved merely cuz they downloaded it to their phones |
| 14:28 |
Apocalyptic |
haha, don't think so |
| 14:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
i cant open this file wtf! |
| 14:28 |
asciilifeform |
the real lul is that this trick almost never yields any detectable coin |
| 14:28 |
asciilifeform |
because lusers typically haven't any. |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
reminiscent of mp's piece re: spam being largely a cargocult |
| 14:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://issuu.com/playbig/docs/ybitcoin_spring_2014_complete |
| 14:29 |
ozbot |
ISSUU - yBitcoin Spring 2014 by PlayBig Digital |
| 14:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
see the latest in whose advertising and what Erik has to say |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
it yields the illusion of being "part of the community" |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
in this case, the cool community of haxxorz. |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
im sure while it fails to produce much coin if at all, it produces tons of definitely very valuable "views" |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.04629971 = 2.4539 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0033399 = 0.167 BTC [-] |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12511 @ 0.00080402 = 10.0591 BTC [+] |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which you know, is what the economy of the bankrupt world degenerated into, the economy of views. of which unit of account is one "mom look at me! mom look! mo-om!" |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3239 @ 0.0008029 = 2.6006 BTC [-] |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.04722996 = 1.1807 BTC [+] {10} |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"Driven by their conception of rational duty, every Randian lived in and indeed was himself a community of spies and informers, ready to ferret out and denounce any deviations from Randian doctrine. Thus, one time a Randian, walking with a girl friend, told her that he had attended a party at which several Randians had made an impromptu tape imitating the voices of the top Randian leaders. Stricken by this dire |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
information and after spending a sleepless night, the girl rushed to inform the top leadership of this terrible transgression. Promptly, the leading participants were called on the carpet by their Objectivist Psychotherapist and bitterly denounced in their "therapy" sessions: "After all," said the therapist, "you wouldnt mock God." When the owner of the tape refused the therapists demand to relinquish it so that |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it could be inspected in detail, his doom as a member of the movement was effectively sealed." |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ahaha this shit's too good. did this one actually happen ? |
| 14:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13461 @ 0.0008029 = 10.8078 BTC [-] |
| 14:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.04892665 = 0.7339 BTC [+] {10} |
| 14:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
if they were lucky |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39739 @ 0.00080204 = 31.8723 BTC [-] |
| 14:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.0502941 = 0.855 BTC [+] {7} |
| 14:43 |
TomServo |
nubbins`: peanut oil has a high burn point, great for frying fish |
| 14:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6189 BTC [-] |
| 14:47 |
HeySteve |
the first Diesel engine ran on peanut oil |
| 14:47 |
HeySteve |
it's good stuff |
| 14:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 29 @ 0.05308063 = 1.5393 BTC [+] {20} |
| 14:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-] |
| 14:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.0008043 = 24.129 BTC [+] |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.06144302 = 2.642 BTC [+] {3} |
| 14:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.06669939 = 0.5336 BTC [+] {3} |
| 15:00 |
nubbins` |
TomServo: so greasy tho! |
| 15:00 |
nubbins` |
fish is the one thing that i dislike frying in cast iron |
| 15:01 |
nubbins` |
we usually buy skin-on salmon and it gums the fuck out of the pan |
| 15:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-] |
| 15:03 |
nubbins` |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426987.0 |
| 15:03 |
ozbot |
New MicroSoul coins for the masses 0.01 |
| 15:04 |
nubbins` |
hologram misspellings now an intentional feature, it seems |
| 15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/444550285651107840 |
| 15:07 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: KRAMER: Will you look at this? ... |
| 15:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.0033399 = 0.157 BTC [-] |
| 15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` supposedly this is how art evolves. mistakes end up baked in by their success. |
| 15:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0033399 = 0.2939 BTC [-] |
| 15:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12874 @ 0.00080105 = 10.3127 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically in rothbard's reading, this rand character is the quintessential balabusta, a staid, obnoxious, overarching yet profoundly ignorant and puritanical fat old woman. |
| 15:41 |
nubbins` |
i didn't realize she was fat |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
me either. but from reading this i can't imagine the woman under 200ish lbs |
| 15:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 682 @ 0.00334001 = 2.2779 BTC [+] |
| 15:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.0034 = 0.2414 BTC [+] |
| 16:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0008043 = 11.22 BTC [+] |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9466412 |
| 16:11 |
ozbot |
Pinkberry co-founder Young Lee sentenced to 7 years in 2011 beating of transient | abc7.com |
| 16:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-] |
| 16:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00079762 = 20.3792 BTC [-] {3} |
| 16:29 |
nubbins` |
interesting how they capitalize Good Samaritans |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform guy shoulda started a police department instead of a frozen yogurt brand. |
| 16:30 |
nubbins` |
http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/03/14/1458235/weak-apple-prng-threatens-ios-exploit-mitigations |
| 16:30 |
ozbot |
Weak Apple PRNG Threatens iOS Exploit Mitigations - Slashdot |
| 16:31 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
| 16:31 |
nubbins` |
apparently it's worse than the old one. |
| 16:32 |
asciilifeform |
why a gizmo where the manufacturer controls the whole stack, silicon up, needs any prng at all, remains a mystery. |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
"needs". |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
apple aren't engineers, they're like yahoo. a media buying company. |
| 16:33 |
asciilifeform |
they stamp out their own 'arm' clone now |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+] |
| 16:38 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A6 |
| 16:39 |
ozbot |
Apple A6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 16:39 |
nubbins` |
designed by apple, stamped by samsung |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
many famous semiconductor firms are 'fabless' |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. the late Sun |
| 16:40 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 16:40 |
nubbins` |
and why not, really |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
sparc was built at toshiba, if i recall. |
| 16:42 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Hello |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/george-street-girls-topless-for-kirill-sparks-outrage-1.2572990 |
| 16:44 |
ozbot |
George Street girls topless for Kirill sparks outrage - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
byline: "CBC has learned underage girls were among those photographed" |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
ah, my sides. |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
so much for your brand new nightclub, guys |
| 16:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.0008046 = 16.3334 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:46 |
nubbins` |
from the club: "Due to the recent uproar caused by photos taken from our opening weekend, females [sic] patrons are advise [sic] of the following rule changes: 1) females are restricted from wearing clothes that expose more then 25 percent of there [sic] body. 2) exposure of breasts is strictly prohibited 3) the dance craze known as Twerking is banned until further notice. Other forms of dancing |
| 16:46 |
nubbins` |
will be acceptable if deemed non sexual by nature." |
| 16:46 |
nubbins` |
ahahah. |
| 16:46 |
nubbins` |
TWERKING BANNED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
but i like twerking |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
turns out that the instrument i proposed for raping casascius coins is available commercially: |
| |
↖ |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://blog.brukerafmprobes.com/2011/06/scanning-capacitance-microscopy-scm |
| 16:49 |
ozbot |
Scanning Capacitance Microscopy – SCM » Bruker Blog |
| 16:49 |
nubbins` |
aha! |
| 16:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10099999 BTC [+] |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60702 BTC [-] |
| 17:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10488 @ 0.00080222 = 8.4137 BTC [-] |
| 17:06 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, do you have something to recommend for hardware RNGs ? |
| 17:06 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: unsurprisingly, i recomment... mine. |
| 17:06 |
asciilifeform |
*recommend |
| 17:06 |
tim-tams |
BingoBoingo, you still here? |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/745/fico-will-be-elected-president-of-slovakia/ |
| 17:06 |
Apocalyptic |
the Cardano ? |
| 17:06 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Fico will be elected President of Slovakia |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov so how's that look, is the guy winning or what ? |
| 17:07 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rng/baked.png |
| 17:10 |
nubbins` |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/the-law-page/canadian-lawsuit-to-seek-500-million-from-mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange/article17500209/?cmpid=rss1 |
| 17:10 |
ozbot |
Canadian lawsuit to seek $500-million from Mt. Gox bitcoin exchange - The Globe and Mail |
| 17:10 |
dignork |
mircea_popescu, http://trilema.com/2014/me-at-its-finest/, can you explain in few words why it made sence to me, I'm not from India |
| 17:10 |
nubbins` |
dat discovery |
| 17:10 |
dignork |
s/sence/sense |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
dignork where you from ? |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma6m66tFK71re5la5o1_1280.jpg << ipo worthy ? |
| 17:10 |
dignork |
mircea_popescu, complicated question, but not from India :) |
| 17:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.11950724 = 0.3585 BTC [-] |
| 17:11 |
dignork |
mircea_popescu, let's say from USSR |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
well why do i speak english, im not from scotland, you know ? |
| 17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Not for too long, going out drinking soon |
| 17:11 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Per the blog url http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/ |
| 17:11 |
dignork |
mircea_popescu, just a popular language |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently wir sind alle aus Indien |
| 17:12 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
| 17:12 |
nubbins` |
don't panic, we're sorta germanic |
| 17:12 |
tim-tams |
BingoBoingo why did you want to burn youmeandbtc.com with fire? haha |
| 17:13 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Looks too modern, also too much empty space |
| 17:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.006099 = 0.1525 BTC [+] |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
(read that in a kennedy accent) |
| 17:14 |
dignork |
mircea_popescu, historically we might be, but it was too long ago |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
dignork anyway, the honest answer is that i've greatly overstated what's likely happenstance to make an otherwise valid and much more general point. |
| 17:14 |
tim-tams |
BingoBoingo is that sarcasm? |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
which is kinda how this entire expression trick goes. |
| 17:15 |
tim-tams |
To me I always thought the design was badish and it was way too busy |
| 17:15 |
tim-tams |
at least on the top |
| 17:15 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Maybe that's the part that makes me a bit queasy |
| 17:15 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Something about it just doesn't look right |
| 17:16 |
tim-tams |
BingoBoingo well, tonight that site should be gone |
| 17:18 |
BingoBoingo |
tim-tams: Unstyled html lists and tables are the new marble columns and granite steps |
| 17:19 |
tim-tams |
BingoBoingo: does that mean good or bad? |
| 17:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00339999 = 0.1496 BTC [+] |
| 17:21 |
dignork |
BingoBoingo, regarding html lists etc: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1403_02-08_mickens.pdf |
| 17:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00079714 = 15.4645 BTC [-] |
| 17:22 |
dub |
I refuse to open a goddamn pdf on such a topic |
| 17:23 |
nubbins` |
dub: in summary it says blah blah mumble blah |
| 17:24 |
dignork |
dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reN5vaSADKQ |
| 17:24 |
dub |
flash, thats better |
| 17:24 |
* |
dub moves lawn people along |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1728785/plain/) |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 6 |
| 17:26 |
dignork |
dub, youtube can serve html5 video, if you believe it's better than flash |
| 17:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00339999 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00080281 = 25.9709 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 49 @ 0.11950724 = 5.8559 BTC [-] |
| 17:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00349362 = 0.283 BTC [+] {4} |
| 17:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00349398 = 0.3529 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 12000 @ 0.00333023 = 39.9628 BTC [-] {9} |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] |
| 17:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6188999 BTC [+] |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00079827 = 11.7745 BTC [-] |
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| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
anyone have a mirror for BTCMSG? |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
or is that dead? |
| |
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| 18:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
can you have both a gpg and bitcoin registration in the same WoT listing? |
| 18:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
I see the hint of instructions on how to change it, but not clear on whether it just replaces it |
| 18:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60602 BTC [-] |
| 18:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol WSJ has been making many typos lately "Weibo, Twitter’s China, Files for IPO in the U.S." |
| 18:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
" 4 |
| 18:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
inShare |
| 18:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
Today, the US government gave up a major portion of its control over the day-to-day functions of the internet, as the US Department of Commerce announced it was giving up its oversight role over ICANN" |
| 18:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
bled dry and left for the rats |
| 19:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://reason.com/blog/2014/03/12/watch-rep-jared-polis-subject-cash-to-th |
| 19:00 |
ozbot |
Watch Rep. Jared Polis Subject Cash to the Bitcoin-Regulation Test - Hit & Run : Reason.com |
| 19:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
hosted by Kennedy from MTV, lol |
| 19:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04525202 = 0.6335 BTC [-] {7} |
| 19:06 |
dub |
dealing with support people at a chinese supplier named Judith, Englebert and Romeo |
| 19:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.07186395 = 3.0901 BTC [-] {6} |
| 19:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.11950724 = 3.1072 BTC [-] |
| 19:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00349397 = 0.1992 BTC [+] {2} |
| 19:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 184 @ 0.00356026 = 0.6551 BTC [+] {4} |
| 19:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.07398797 = 0.222 BTC [+] |
| 19:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.0036381 = 0.1164 BTC [+] |
| 19:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.0036797 = 0.7507 BTC [+] {4} |
| 19:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24085 @ 0.00079933 = 19.2519 BTC [+] {2} |
| 19:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9965 @ 0.00079708 = 7.9429 BTC [-] |
| 19:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 46 @ 0.04500191 = 2.0701 BTC [-] {3} |
| 20:01 |
cads |
hmm, I need a near effect sensor that can give me a reading of 3d printing surface quality. |
| |
↖ |
| 20:01 |
cads |
sonar? |
| 20:02 |
cads |
maybe a good camera |
| 20:03 |
cads |
though I want something more stupid - surface quality is either flat and smooth and the printer can speed up, or the surface quality is blobby, choppy, with sparp peaks of plastic, and the head needs to slow down to 'heal' the print's next few layers. |
| 20:04 |
cads |
so something that convolves an energy impulse with the surface and then measures the scattering should be ideal. |
| 20:06 |
cads |
maybe an CCD system with special lighting. |
| 20:08 |
cads |
I just don't want to have to write a feature detector that needs to know about the global geometry at play... maybe I can train a feature detector that just detects the silhouette fingerprint of localized choppiness and other print failures. |
| 20:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4116 @ 0.00014925 = 0.6143 BTC [-] {5} |
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| 20:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05775268 = 0.1733 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.07398797 = 0.148 BTC [+] |
| 20:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-] |
| 20:46 |
moiety |
fucks sake, it's busy in here tonight! |
| 20:46 |
moiety |
http://i.imgur.com/wdHNYsd.jpg new business on fb |
| 20:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.045002 = 1.5301 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:50 |
lnovy |
hehe.. when you switch a drug amphetamine test strip with pregnacy strip and the girl is clean, he will test pregnant :) And she can even show this before soon-to-be husband:) There a great bussiness in Poland with these... |
| 20:50 |
lnovy |
s/he/she/ |
| 21:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.045002 = 0.765 BTC [-] |
| 21:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44704 @ 0.00080314 = 35.9036 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 21:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07426666 = 0.2228 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.07100005 = 0.284 BTC [-] {3} |
| 21:49 |
bitcoinpete |
;;later tell mircea_popescu: I should check out the film, I've only seen the mainstage production :) I'm not sure how very strange my naiveté is. I'm less naive than I was 2 months ago, prior to the commencement of my IRC yeshiva, but hardly deserving of expectation. Either way, and as always, thx for reading and the feedback.You're like having a younger Taleb as a personal tutor... |
| 21:49 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 21:55 |
midnightmagic |
ooOOooo film recommendation? I love those, which one, bitcoinpete? |
| 21:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1100 @ 0.00368156 = 4.0497 BTC [+] {6} |
| 21:58 |
bitcoinpete |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_and_I_(1956_film) |
| 21:58 |
ozbot |
The King and I (1956 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 22:04 |
bitcoinpete |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVPnWmUqd4 |
| 22:04 |
ozbot |
Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr perform "Shall We Dance" - YouTube |
| 22:07 |
bitcoinpete |
What a scene. Brynner, such a pleasure to behold, has the most unbelievable poise and strength of movement. Not a single muscle fibre out of sorts. |
| 22:19 |
TomServo |
https://blog.ageispolis.net/foxacid-at-hope9/ |
| 22:19 |
ozbot |
Suspected NSA FOXACID server advertised at HOPE 9 | Wireless Fantasy |
| 22:22 |
MisterE |
morning |
| 22:22 |
MisterE |
http://www.ibtimes.com/gazprom-chairman-sold-his-entire-company-stake-february-day-shares-fell-13-percent-report-1561525 |
| 22:22 |
ozbot |
Gazprom Chairman Sold His Entire Company Stake In February, A Day Before Shares Fell 13 Percent: Rep |
| 22:28 |
chetty |
bitcoinpete: cool just about my favorite movie/actor |
| 22:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080365 = 15.9525 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:31 |
moiety |
I haven't seen the film but ive seen a stage production of the king and i |
| 22:31 |
moiety |
lnovy:that's crazy about the test strips! |
| 22:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4798 @ 0.00080371 = 3.8562 BTC [+] |
| 22:39 |
lnovy |
moiety: the drug test shows 2 lines when clean, 3 lines when under drugs... pregnancy show 1 for clean, 2 for pregnancy :) |
| 22:39 |
moiety |
mental! |
| 22:40 |
bitcoinpete |
chetty: I can see why. |
| 22:40 |
MisterE |
it's funny how you call the opposite or pregnant "clean" :p |
| 22:40 |
lnovy |
this is actually not very known in Poland and pregnant girls are buying tests by tens and selling those already pissed :) |
| 22:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.05149999 = 0.515 BTC [-] {3} |
| 22:40 |
MisterE |
wow |
| 22:40 |
lnovy |
=) |
| 22:40 |
MisterE |
pre-pissed tests |
| 22:41 |
lnovy |
yes :) |
| 22:41 |
MisterE |
do the Japs know about this? |
| 22:41 |
bitcoinpete |
Well, I'm out for tonight. Date night and all. Cheers fellas. |
| 22:41 |
MisterE |
they will be all over that |
| 22:41 |
lnovy |
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/04/showbiz/craigslist-pregnancy-kit-sale-trend/ |
| 22:41 |
ozbot |
Women selling positive pregnancy tests on Craigslist - CNN.com |
| 22:41 |
MisterE |
fucking pete with the blog and dates and life.... |
| 22:41 |
MisterE |
have fun man |
| 22:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05025 = 0.402 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:42 |
moiety |
why sell a positive one? not like you can back it up 9 months later |
| 22:42 |
Duffer1 |
they're popular near military bases |
| 22:42 |
lnovy |
false positive my darling, but we are already married :) |
| 22:42 |
lnovy |
make me another :) |
| 22:42 |
moiety |
OMG |
| 22:42 |
moiety |
thats fucked up |
| 22:42 |
lnovy |
life is a bitch |
| 22:42 |
Duffer1 |
get your claws in a man, he gets deployed, get knocked up |
| 22:43 |
moiety |
D>I>V>O>R>C>E> you lying cunt! |
| 22:43 |
lnovy |
or they are used to get money for "abortion" |
| 22:43 |
joecool |
hm i remember some months back a guy pissed on one for the hell of it and it came back positive, turns out had testicular cancer |
| 22:43 |
moiety |
wtf |
| 22:43 |
Duffer1 |
ya well divorce in america = 1/2 |
| 22:43 |
DiabloD3 |
yeah I dont know why more men dont use prenups |
| 22:43 |
Duffer1 |
so she wins no matter what unless the guy is actively aware of the scam and dumps her lyin ass before marriage |
| 22:43 |
moiety |
joecool: i thought they tested for oestrogen levels |
| 22:44 |
joecool |
moiety: apparently having cancer can cause them to flag positive |
| 22:44 |
moiety |
prenup? just dont bag a lying bitch |
| 22:44 |
DiabloD3 |
all bitches are lying |
| 22:44 |
Duffer1 |
their target is 18 year old hillbillies who don't know any better, and have nothin better to do than join the army |
| 22:44 |
moiety |
fuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 22:44 |
moiety |
wow |
| 22:45 |
moiety |
christ the more i hear, thelss i like people |
| 22:45 |
moiety |
the less* |
| 22:54 |
Duffer1 |
oh here's the fun part, in the US if you've cared for the child, then find out later it's not yours, family court will still likely find you liable for child support |
| 23:01 |
moiety |
did you see the sperm donor that is getting done for child support? |
| 23:01 |
Duffer1 |
i haven't but i'm not surprised |
| 23:02 |
moiety |
couple lesbians ordered him on craiglist (<<< lol) but they didn't follow proper procedure and home inseminated. therefore states says he's the daddy |
| 23:02 |
moiety |
state* |
| 23:02 |
moiety |
must pay support. kid is like 4 now i think too |
| 23:02 |
Duffer1 |
ouch |
| 23:03 |
moiety |
most expensive wank he has ever had i'll bet |
| 23:04 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
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| 23:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 22 @ 0.03775 = 0.8305 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12872 @ 0.00080371 = 10.3454 BTC [+] |
| 23:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.03723507 = 0.2979 BTC [-] {2} |
| 23:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 49 @ 0.0356594 = 1.7473 BTC [-] {5} |
| 23:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61885 = 1.2377 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.03473599 = 0.521 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507529.0 :p |
| 23:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0059 = 0.118 BTC [-] |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
andspeaking of which, copumpkin check this guy out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=ul25uaqbfplpcom0n928ij4sa3&topic=507529.msg5681654#msg5681654 |
| 23:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 200 @ 0.00299046 = 0.5981 BTC [+] {8} |
| 23:42 |
moiety |
is it later tell or tell later for gribbling to someone that isn't here btw? |
| 23:43 |
Duffer1 |
;;later tell moiety test |
| 23:43 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 23:43 |
moiety |
ty Duffer1! |
| 23:43 |
Duffer1 |
^.^ |
| 23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah it is |
| 23:43 |
moiety |
;;later tell benkay http://getpopcornti.me/ shut down already |
| 23:44 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 23:44 |
moiety |
ty! |
| 23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
what was that ? |
| 23:50 |
copumpkin |
mircea_popescu: weird |
| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
wild ? you did not know that ? |
| 23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you can have both |
| 23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cads sonar was made for that application. |
| 23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete you've seen the mainstage production of tom green's freddie got fingered ?! that existed ?! |
| 23:56 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 23:57 |
moiety |
it was a link that benkay posted a few days ago, saying bout time. streaming movies from torrents mircea_popescu just heard just now it went down already |
| 23:58 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10695204/Paranoia-leads-Vladimir-Putin-to-the-point-of-no-return.html |
| 23:58 |
ozbot |
Paranoia leads Vladimir Putin to the point of no return - Telegraph |
| 23:58 |
moiety |
baha i need to read this |
| 23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
this is perhaps the best i've read on the topic, for any value of best equal "entertaining due to the propaganda dial being turned to such 11, the insanity of the whole process becomes obvious even to the casual observer resulting in an unintentional self-parody quality" |