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← 2014-03-11 | 2014-03-13 →
00:00 Chris_Sabian_ marketing...
00:02 ThickAsThieves [22:54] <mike_c> A hyperactive stock market is the pickpocket of enterprise. /// hadnt read that one, i like it.
00:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40899 @ 0.00086239 = 35.2709 BTC [-]
00:16 Chris_Sabian_ TAT - any chance you will restart XBOND?
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19169 @ 0.00086575 = 16.5956 BTC [+] {4}
00:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14431 @ 0.0008668 = 12.5088 BTC [+]
00:19 thestringpuller XBOND is gone forever
00:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0911 = 0.1822 BTC [-]
00:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00086285 = 18.163 BTC [-]
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00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29947 @ 0.00086429 = 25.8829 BTC [+] {2}
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01:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00086666 = 18.8065 BTC [+] {2}
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01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.638 = 1.914 BTC [+]
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01:59 ThickAsThieves Chris_Sabian_:TAT - any chance you will restart XBOND? // No chance whatsoever
02:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00086239 = 19.1882 BTC [-]
02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00086399 = 44.6683 BTC [+] {2}
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10990 @ 0.00086688 = 9.527 BTC [+] {2}
02:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0038998 = 0.1443 BTC [+]
02:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00389999 = 0.3471 BTC [+]
02:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.0039 = 0.2574 BTC [+]
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02:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00086663 = 29.5521 BTC [-] {3}
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03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84000 @ 0.00086181 = 72.392 BTC [-] {5}
03:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00631999 = 0.3792 BTC [+] {3}
03:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.08710926 = 0.9582 BTC [-] {10}
03:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00631999 = 0.1517 BTC [+]
03:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.04120831 = 0.989 BTC [+] {14}
03:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6000 @ 0.00017016 = 1.021 BTC [+] {11}
03:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1129 @ 0.0001711 = 0.1932 BTC [+] {4}
03:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25785 @ 0.00086583 = 22.3254 BTC [+] {3}
03:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.07 = 4.2 BTC [-]
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03:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12154 @ 0.00086117 = 10.4667 BTC [-]
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04:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00086655 = 14.2981 BTC [+]
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04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 90 @ 0.60187243 = 54.1685 BTC [-] {12}
04:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00389988 = 0.1053 BTC [-]
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.00389988 = 0.2847 BTC [-]
04:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50900 @ 0.00087057 = 44.312 BTC [+] {5}
04:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00086655 = 15.3813 BTC [-]
04:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00086655 = 11.1022 BTC [-]
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.07 = 2.24 BTC [+] {2}
05:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08451 = 0.4226 BTC [-] {3}
05:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.042125 = 0.1685 BTC [+] {3}
05:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07 = 0.21 BTC [+]
05:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3338 @ 0.00086655 = 2.8925 BTC [-]
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05:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0008608 = 8.4358 BTC [-] {2}
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05:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9445 @ 0.00085992 = 8.1219 BTC [-]
05:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00389975 = 0.9749 BTC [+]
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+]
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06:07 MisterE LTC on Huboi get in on the pump
06:07 MisterE https://www.huobi.com/topic/index.php?a=ltcshangxian
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00572647 = 0.5726 BTC [-] {6}
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00600585 = 0.9309 BTC [-] {8}
06:15 cazalla pass
06:16 cazalla litecoin is like the kid who said his $2 shop game of brick is the same as tetris on a gameboy (bitcoin)
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06:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54700 @ 0.00085979 = 47.0305 BTC [-] {2}
07:05 Mats_cd03 yeah really
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00085997 = 13.3295 BTC [+]
07:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08428 = 0.1686 BTC [-] {2}
07:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 296 @ 0.00056897 = 0.1684 BTC [+] {4}
07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00085997 = 14.4905 BTC [+]
07:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00086162 = 12.8812 BTC [+]
07:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12050 @ 0.0001469 = 1.7701 BTC [-] {20}
07:29 Neil ;;bc.stats
07:29 gribble Error: "bc.stats" is not a valid command.
07:31 Neil ;;bc,stats
07:31 gribble Current Blocks: 290189 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 114 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 11 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4219760456.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.58873
07:35 cazalla didn't think it would stay under 10%
07:43 Neil Doesn't need much of a pause to get there
07:44 cazalla it'll be a close one re: the under 10% bet
07:45 Neil Close ones like that can make a killing for bitbet
07:45 Neil That was my bet I think
07:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00086455 = 16.4697 BTC [+] {2}
07:51 Neil ;;bc,stats
07:51 gribble Current Blocks: 290190 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 113 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 32 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4214894904.81 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.46122
07:52 cazalla are you betting no?
07:54 Neil I think block 290303 needs to have a timestamp of 13/03/2014 05:57:02 or laster. But not certain.
07:54 Neil later
07:55 Neil Well I had the initial bet. Not bet since then... but it'd be a nice win if it happens
07:55 Neil Got another chance in 2 weeks even if this misses
07:57 cazalla hope not, i'm betting yes for http://bitbet.us/bet/705/btc-difficulty-to-increase-by-more-than-30/
07:57 cazalla 10% this cycle is a bit of a lull, fingers crossed for 30%+ next
07:58 Neil cazalla: Yeah I think that's not gonna happen
07:59 Neil The amount of hardware to come online to get 30% increases every 10 days is just nuts
07:59 cazalla i love the long shots :)
07:59 Neil Yeah they sometimes pay off spectacularly. I blew up on the MtGox $150 1March; if he'd only hung on another 4 days...
08:00 cazalla won on that and gox closing
08:01 Neil Gox closing was one of my bets too; I got that one right :) Just a bit too early...
08:01 cazalla why would you bet gox above 150 then?
08:01 Neil Well 25 mins between blocks is feeling good at the moment :)
08:01 cazalla seemed both went hand in hand, at least to me
08:02 Neil cazalla: Never thought they'd go before Mar 1st. Also bets were from last year
08:02 Neil I viewed it more as a BTC bet, y'know.
08:02 Neil It only became a gox bet in the last 2 weeks
08:02 cazalla i bailed on them after the 5m confiscation
08:03 cazalla if it was obvious to me at that point, i don't doubt smarter people bailed long before that
08:03 Neil I had nothing there; know many who did though. And ID etc.
08:04 Neil ;;bc,stats
08:04 cazalla I am worried about ID, I cancelled/deleted my account which after 90 days they said they purge details but I fucking doubt it
08:04 gribble Current Blocks: 290192 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 111 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4213254524.19 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.41823
08:04 Neil I doubt they deleted anything
08:04 cazalla I think you are right
08:04 Neil Some of my old transactions could be found on that web page that was put up, but some weren't there either. Very odd.
08:05 Neil Karpeles seems to have been a complete fuckwit who just didn't take anything seriously; least of all other people's money. Assuming there wasn't fraud.
08:11 btcinmypocket Neil: Well, that data was provided by someone(s) who had the lack of ethics to include bitcoin stealing trojans in with the publication, so I don't doubt you have finding problem with the records. I would expect that they would mess with a bit if there is incentive.
08:13 Neil I'm definitely in the top 3 bettors on bitbet; wouldn't be surprised if #1 by amt of BTC bet. Scary.
08:14 Neil Confirmed total: 12,479 BTC on bitbet's site. I'm well over 5% of that.
08:15 cazalla what's your track record like
08:15 cazalla did you bet on kuka? (how disappointing)
08:16 Neil Was doing very well until Gox 1Mar and the (inconsistent IMO) decision that was made on SDICE (where market cap was zero but share price was above XX). But whatever. Still above water, but only just.
08:17 Neil Lots of small wins; 2 big losses.
08:18 kakobrekla i think the biggest roller is 10%
08:18 Neil Single address?
08:18 Neil I lowballed :)
08:18 kakobrekla correct
08:18 Neil My history is over 10%
08:19 Neil But I don't use 1 address
08:19 kakobrekla i should buy you a drink then!
08:19 Neil Wouldn't say no if we happen to meet one day :)
08:24 cazalla speaking of drink
08:24 cazalla i learned that i shouldn't try to chug champagne from the bottle
08:25 cazalla blow fish face but i was desperate to drink, nothing in the house but this crap
08:25 cazalla if i was sober, i'd shut up and read more logs
08:26 cazalla but loose lips sink ships
08:27 cazalla i can't remember the article but it mentioned idiots who happened across bitcoin and made some money
08:27 cazalla that'd be me lol
08:29 Neil Well if it hits $5k I'm retiring.
08:29 Neil ;;bc,stats
08:29 gribble Current Blocks: 290195 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 108 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
08:30 cazalla likewise
08:30 Neil Wooh! A winner
08:30 cazalla 5k would allow me to buy a nice acreage, lambo but more importantly, fuck some of the wifes friends with insane display of wealth
08:31 cazalla i could fuck them now but she'd leave me
08:32 cazalla or maybe she will leave me later and like most fools, easy come, easy go
08:32 Neil If it gets to $5k I imagine it'd be possible to spend most places; no need for fiat any more. Certainly given a year or two at that level.
08:32 Neil Look forward to Yellen justifying her Ponzi
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09:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44373 @ 0.00085906 = 38.1191 BTC [-] {3}
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00085805 = 17.5471 BTC [-]
09:16 C01DA51CE morning gents
09:17 kakobrekla hi
09:17 C01DA51CE what kind of name is
09:17 C01DA51CE kakobrekla
09:17 kakobrekla the honest kind
09:18 C01DA51CE i see.
09:19 C01DA51CE my names the cool kind
09:19 C01DA51CE im 1337 hax0rer
09:19 cazalla cool as in zerocool?
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 42 @ 0.00267704 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {6}
09:19 C01DA51CE yeah
09:19 C01DA51CE im hacking the gibson
09:19 C01DA51CE as we speak
09:19 cazalla find that bitcoin the garbage file?
09:19 cazalla in*
09:19 C01DA51CE i found some dirty porn
09:20 C01DA51CE i think it was of kakobreklas sister
09:20 C01DA51CE or his dog
09:20 C01DA51CE hard to tell the two apart.
09:20 kakobrekla i dont have either so you must be stoned.
09:20 C01DA51CE yes.
09:21 C01DA51CE what do you think of the bitcoinshop.us
09:21 C01DA51CE the next amazon?
09:21 cazalla oh for sure
09:21 kakobrekla i thought you gonna carry on with the insults
09:21 cazalla *snicker*
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1121 @ 0.00015001 = 0.1682 BTC [-] {5}
09:21 C01DA51CE no im done ;p
09:21 C01DA51CE on to my next target.
09:21 kakobrekla I AM DISAPPOINT
09:21 C01DA51CE ;(
09:21 C01DA51CE I are try again soon
09:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00389975 = 0.39 BTC [-]
09:22 cazalla imagine taking a haircut from the cypriot government
09:22 cazalla and then NEOBEO comes and takes the remaining 90%
09:23 C01DA51CE i have no idea
09:23 C01DA51CE what you just said.
09:23 cazalla yeah, i am drunk and really should go to bed
09:23 C01DA51CE what time is it there?
09:23 cazalla channel is so quiet during my nights
09:23 cazalla 12:30am
09:24 KRS1 time zone?
09:24 cazalla +10
09:24 cazalla down under
09:24 C01DA51CE hrm
09:24 C01DA51CE why do they call NZ
09:24 C01DA51CE kiwis?
09:24 KRS1 i am +5 and after midnight bitcoin chans here are dead
09:24 cazalla NZ is down under as well
09:25 C01DA51CE do they grow lots of kiwis there?
09:25 cazalla the fruit or the bird?
09:25 KRS1 yes i dont like them
09:25 C01DA51CE how dont you like kiwis
09:25 KRS1 too tart
09:25 cazalla kiwi fruit or the bird?
09:25 C01DA51CE have you ever had one fresh off the vine?
09:25 cazalla ok the fruit
09:25 KRS1 fruit
09:25 cazalla kiwis are yum
09:25 KRS1 only from the store
09:25 cazalla the fruit has nothing to do with NZ btw
09:25 C01DA51CE store kiwis suck u have to have a back yard kiwi
09:26 C01DA51CE yeah its the country bird
09:26 C01DA51CE im aware ;p
09:26 KRS1 ill have to remember that..but they also have hair on them as if the hairs are whiskers from a 3 day shaven sailor.
09:26 cazalla you can eat the skin and all
09:26 cazalla good stuff
09:26 C01DA51CE yeah i wouldnt eat the skin but
09:26 C01DA51CE id peel that
09:26 cazalla no, eat it
09:26 C01DA51CE unless you like munching on
09:26 C01DA51CE a harry beavy
09:27 C01DA51CE beaver
09:27 KRS1 yesss
09:27 C01DA51CE which some may enjoy.
09:27 cazalla same deal as mangoes
09:27 cazalla the skin is the best part
09:27 KRS1 i dont like the mango skin..and they grow like mad here
09:28 cazalla it's good for you and saves cutting it up
09:37 C01DA51CE hrm
09:37 C01DA51CE where do ulive
09:37 C01DA51CE mangos grow wild?
09:46 cazalla queensland?
09:48 C01DA51CE o
09:48 C01DA51CE its tropical there?
09:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00600096 = 0.4801 BTC [-] {4}
09:55 cazalla yes
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40745 @ 0.00085872 = 34.9885 BTC [+] {3}
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56397 @ 0.00085654 = 48.3063 BTC [-] {3}
10:05 KRS1 .bait
10:05 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0y6izKybL1r600zvo1_500.jpg
10:05 KRS1 .bait
10:05 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzx926eUGZ1r61ps7o1_500.jpg
10:06 C01DA51CE wow
10:06 C01DA51CE that 2nd girl
10:06 C01DA51CE Is redic
10:10 KRS1 you bet
10:10 KRS1 .diff
10:10 ozbot 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 91 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.7103% in 0d 13h 28m 27s
10:12 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
10:12 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4227111624.54 based on data since last change | 4466857657.25 based on data for last three days
10:16 KRS1 a friend of mine is selling 2 x BFL 60 ghash miners and 2 jalapenos if anyone is interested
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15921 @ 0.00086085 = 13.7056 BTC [+]
10:22 C01DA51CE .bait
10:22 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzyridAhVW1r76ywbo1_400.jpg
10:22 C01DA51CE well that certainly
10:22 C01DA51CE is quite interesting
10:22 C01DA51CE .bait
10:22 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m10dh4ZO3g1qiqa2no1_1280.jpg
10:23 C01DA51CE .bait
10:23 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0wms7C2RI1rp8c9ao1_500.jpg
10:25 C01DA51CE http://25.media.tumblr.com/bb3663c240b2f17c095fd89524c2d9b7/tumblr_mrneznnbM01rttnhxo1_500.jpg
10:25 C01DA51CE lol
10:25 C01DA51CE so true
10:25 C01DA51CE what a bunch of whores these girls are now
10:27 KRS1 ya aint it great
10:28 C01DA51CE i guess
10:28 C01DA51CE if ur not
10:28 C01DA51CE married with children
10:30 KRS1 bachelor life for me
10:30 KRS1 sux fo ryou
10:32 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c he has good points on the topic. then people wonder why he wasn't ever a topic of study by acaemia. which academia, the one that subsits on ex hedge fund manager alumni bequests ?
10:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:32 mircea_popescu the20year you can end up with a tv show on top of everything, maybe put a little effort into it, curate a youtube channel, do some blogwork/outreach
10:32 mircea_popescu people love the sort of shit.
10:33 mircea_popescu ;;later tell Chris_Sabian i wouldn't be too worried about it. 2013 made bitcoin, it's a cut deal.
10:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 335 @ 0.00389975 = 1.3064 BTC [-]
10:54 mircea_popescu Neil: I'm definitely in the top 3 bettors on bitbet; wouldn't be surprised if #1 by amt of BTC bet. Scary. << how much is that ?
11:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.00614863 = 0.1168 BTC [-] {3}
11:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00086085 = 14.204 BTC [+]
11:04 ThickAsThieves http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/02/25/waltham-murders-boston-marathon/
11:04 ozbot The Murders Before the Marathon
11:04 jcpham mircea_popescu it's over 9000 I just checked
11:05 mircea_popescu lol ok
11:07 ThickAsThieves https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/03/12/nsa-plans-infect-millions-computers-malware/
11:07 ozbot How the NSA Plans to Infect 'Millions' of Computers with Malware - The Intercept
11:07 ThickAsThieves "An implant plug-in named CAPTIVATEDAUDIENCE, for example, is used to take over a targeted computer’s microphone and record conversations taking place near the device. Another, GUMFISH, can covertly take over a computer’s webcam and snap photographs. FOGGYBOTTOM records logs of Internet browsing histories and collects login details and passwords used to access websites and email
11:07 ThickAsThieves accounts. GROK is used to log keystrokes. And SALVAGERABBIT exfiltrates data from removable flash drives that connect to an infected computer."
11:08 ThickAsThieves https://prod01-cdn03.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/2014/03/selectors-1024x768.png
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.00627804 = 0.4081 BTC [-] {5}
11:13 jurov .d
11:13 ozbot 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 81 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.8910% in 0d 11h 56m 42s
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.00628292 = 0.1194 BTC [+] {2}
11:15 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
11:15 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4233978876.69 based on data since last change | 4459038639.54 based on data for last three days
11:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33848 @ 0.0008602 = 29.116 BTC [-] {2}
11:15 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
11:15 gribble Current Blocks: 290222 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 81 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 14 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4233978876.69 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.96136
11:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 88 @ 0.00629001 = 0.5535 BTC [+] {3}
11:19 Neil mircea_popescu: More than I thought... I keep a record of it all
11:20 Neil "BTC difficulty to increase by less than 10% 6.00000000 BTC on No" << wow, that's almost reckless
11:20 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/stats/1K4FswVNus5xJZJ6TYqAzWSy3tXBBFdGnM/ < the famous 1k4fs is like 1.2k
11:21 ThickAsThieves reckless how so?
11:21 Neil Little upside lot of downside. Just IMO.
11:21 ThickAsThieves looks safe to me
11:22 Neil Fair enough :)
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [+]
11:32 Neil When do you think we'll have a full difficulty period where sum(fees)>sum(new coins)? 6.25 BTC or 3.125 BTC or later?
11:35 Neil We'd definitely need the block size limit substantially raised or removed, but that's gonna have to happen in the next 18 mths anyway.
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00390393 = 0.2108 BTC [+] {2}
11:38 Neil ;;prevdiffchange
11:38 gribble 21.92473
11:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37036 @ 0.00085735 = 31.7528 BTC [-] {3}
11:43 thestringpuller ;;reward
11:43 gribble Error: "reward" is not a valid command.
11:47 mircea_popescu Neil 2016.
11:47 mircea_popescu and no, larger block size lowers fees.
11:47 mircea_popescu block size is good as is, 1mb.
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04233333 = 0.127 BTC [-] {2}
11:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.0008552 = 35.0632 BTC [-] {2}
11:48 Neil ThickAsThieves: Didn't realize it was your bet :)#
11:49 Neil mircea_popescu: No way in 2016... I don't see blocks with 12.5 BTC fees, and certainly not at 1MB
11:49 mircea_popescu explain how you reason /
11:51 Neil Well I believe the block size will increase. But also with say ~1k txns per 1MB block, I don't see people paying an average fee of 0.0013 BTC. Especially as I expect BTC to be significantly higher than today.
11:51 artifexd 1meg block allows for (ideally) 5000 transactions (at 200 bytes/tx). To get 12.5 btc in fees, each transaction will have to pay .0025 btc in fees. Them thar are some hefty fees.
11:51 San1ty-Work What's the general consensus here on AM and their Gen 3 chips?
11:52 VanCleef risky
11:52 Neil artifexd: The occasional 900 KB blocks rarely go over 1200 txns
11:52 mircea_popescu Neil so you believe the block size will increase. why ?
11:52 Neil It's the right thing to do.
11:52 mircea_popescu how do you know this ?
11:52 artifexd Niel hence "ideally"
11:52 Neil I don't know, it's my belief.
11:52 mircea_popescu well then here's the caper : it's beyond fucking stupid.
11:52 Neil Can't argue with that.
11:52 mircea_popescu there are two good reasons not to increase it. one is that the larger the block, the more expensive its securing
11:53 San1ty-Work VanCleef: I heard some rumors that they are planning to deploy 1600 PH
11:53 mircea_popescu currently blocks are secured through the process of mining. the hash count per block is a rough proxy for its cryptographical security.
11:53 mircea_popescu a doubling of the block size roughly quadruples the hash needed for equal security.
11:53 Neil These things should be chosen by the market, just like fees. I doubt we'll get blocks much bigger than 1MB for a long time to come, even if there weren't a limit now.
11:54 mircea_popescu cryptography aside, there is the economic problem, : the only way to extract rents is rarity.
11:54 mircea_popescu if there are 1k slots and 10k txns vieing for a slot, you may see high fees
11:54 mircea_popescu if there are 10k slots made just as soon as there's 10k txns looking for a slot, you'll not see any fees.
11:54 Neil mircea_popescu: It'd be the end of bitbet with fees that high.
11:54 mircea_popescu the idea is for this system to be self sufficient, and in this sense there must always be a rarity of txn slots in blocks with regard to txns
11:54 mircea_popescu current;y this is not satisfied.
11:55 Neil It'll sort itself out.
11:55 mircea_popescu and no, it is not valid to pretend "block size should be set by the market", because of the problem known as the disaster of commons
11:55 mircea_popescu to wit, people have an incentive to mine large blocks fopr the direct payout
11:55 Neil Not at all, or they'd have been doing it for the last year.
11:55 mircea_popescu but the securing of the chain is an expense external to them and easily externalisable
11:55 Neil Pools are afraid of orphans, and that's the way it should be.
11:56 mircea_popescu how is this germane to what we're discussing.
11:56 mircea_popescu as to the side point : bitbet avg bet is over 1 btc.
11:56 mircea_popescu i don't see a problem.
11:57 Neil Well, we'll get to see!
11:57 mircea_popescu this entire accessiblity of bitcoin angle is overplayed.
11:57 mircea_popescu buffett explains quite eminently why he doesn't want an accessibility of his stock in material linked yest
11:57 mircea_popescu generally speaking opening any one good thing to more people shittifies it.
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 16 @ 0.0062964 = 0.1007 BTC [-]
11:58 mircea_popescu let the people raise themselves up to it, rather than having it lowered to their present convenience.
11:58 mircea_popescu and let them learn to pay for service.
11:58 artifexd mircea_popescu how does doubling the block size quadruple the work needed to get equal security? If a certain lock on a certain box provides XX amount of security, how does increasing the size of the box make the lock worth less?
11:58 mircea_popescu artifexd your lock metaphore is broken. the block size is the length of a square strip of material
11:58 mircea_popescu the safety is the thickness of the square surface
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.44287593 BTC to 3`707 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
12:00 mircea_popescu this is fundamentally what hashing does : it turns the problem of "cut this thread" into "cut this surface"
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0411 = 0.2055 BTC [-] {3}
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00085472 = 22.7783 BTC [-] {2}
12:03 artifexd I'm fairly well versed in block/transaction/hash/etc mechanics and I am trying to wrap your metaphore around that structure. It doesn't make sense. I normally have a high amount of respect for what you say. In this case though, I think you're wrong. Or, I don't understand the variety and thus need more lurking.
12:04 mircea_popescu well, where's it broken ?
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+]
12:05 artifexd This will take a bit to type. Patience.
12:05 mircea_popescu that i have.
12:05 chetty http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-exchange-for-high-frequency-traders-is-launched-2014-03-12?dist=lcountdown
12:05 ozbot Bitcoin exchange for high-frequency traders is launched - The Wall Street Journal - MarketWatch
12:06 artifexd Solidifying a group of tx into a block doesn't provide security in the same sense that 100 twigs in a bundle are stronger than 100 twigs seperately. It provide security in providing a stable time reference for when tx happened. Completely different domains.
12:07 artifexd Typing more....
12:09 artifexd Making that reference harder to forge is where the security comes from. How much happens in between each reference point has no bearing on how vulnerable or reproducable each reference point is.
12:10 artifexd Does that make sense?
12:10 mircea_popescu we'll have to work at this. suppose your hash function is defined as the first character of the md5.
12:11 artifexd ok
12:11 mircea_popescu sec mining.
12:13 artifexd If we assume that md5 is a "good" hash function, then how much data you put into it doesn't have any bearing on what you get out of it. Thus the first character remains, essentially, random regardless of whether the input is 200 bytes or 200 megabytes.
12:13 mircea_popescu h(Women are not people.) = h(Jesus hates blacks &^ faggots)
12:13 mircea_popescu now, inasmuch as your blockhash is 3, how do you know the actual block (Women are not people.) is what hapepned
12:14 mircea_popescu should i claim thje actual block really was "Jesus hates blacks &^ faggots" ?
12:14 artifexd Just as much as you could claim it is mircea_popescu
12:15 mircea_popescu right.
12:15 mircea_popescu but mircea_popescu is shorter than the original block.
12:15 artifexd ok...
12:16 mircea_popescu in other words : the larger the block is, the easier for a collision to be found
12:16 mircea_popescu this ease is not linear.
12:17 artifexd I don't argue with what your saying. I would instead say that this particular manner of attack would be monumentally stupid in the case of bitcoin.
12:17 mircea_popescu why ?
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.0459 = 0.5967 BTC [+]
12:19 artifexd Because when the hash of a block is "discovered" the contents of that block are spread around the world. An attacker would have to not only find a collection of valid transactions and a sundry other pieces of data that collide with the exact same hash but also convince someone else that the replacement was the actual block.
12:20 artifexd You are essentially looking at an attack that is by definition maximum difficulty.
12:20 mircea_popescu but an attacker with a lot of hash power could create two such blocks and then swap them in and out to create dead txn
12:20 mircea_popescu which is exactly why the hash power and the block size interact to create the chain cryptographical security
12:20 mircea_popescu they just don't interact linearly.
12:20 artifexd If the hash was one letter, sure. 256 bits? "A lot" is being conservative.
12:21 mircea_popescu my point is that expanding the block size is not unlike shortening the hash length.
12:21 mircea_popescu an infinite block size is worse than the "1st char of the md5" hash scheme i just proposed.
12:21 artifexd However, your point that limiting the maximum length in order to limit the possible collisions is irrelevant as well because there is already a specific place for you to twiddle that will have the exact result you would want. The nonce/timestamp.
12:22 artifexd Your point is technically true, but practically worthless.
12:22 mircea_popescu how you reason ?
12:23 artifexd Because you still have to find the birthday collision. Why would an attacker try to create a block 1 gigabyte long (which still has to be valid) in order to clash with a block 1 megabyte long?
12:23 mircea_popescu (and for the record, i'm not arguing that this would be a particular venue of attack, i am merely showing how my thread length/surface metaphore is much better than your lock/lockbox metaphor)
12:23 mircea_popescu artifexd perhaps because it's the only one that satisfies some other criteria we don't know about.
12:24 artifexd I have a prior engagement that I have to attend to. I will think on this.
12:25 benkay training: http://imgur.com/xi9CLxg
12:25 artifexd Also, for the record, I think that increasing the block size right now is a dumb idea, not necessary and counter-productive to the desired result.
12:26 mircea_popescu benkay you take "bitches" quite literally huh.
12:27 benkay i guess it's hard to see his penis in that photo
12:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17379 @ 0.00085854 = 14.9206 BTC [+]
12:31 KRS1 .bait
12:31 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/c455620f7f4974fb00eac35cb7d839ff/tumblr_mtzytkDLTj1rwn2euo1_1280.jpg
12:31 * KRS1 kicks ozbot.
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6001 BTC [-]
12:34 KRS1 what do you know, there's faggot dog porn: http://doggay.net/
12:34 KRS1 There ya go if you are looking for the red rocket.
12:35 KRS1 who knew there were gay dogs..i kind of wondered since I once saw a boy dog trying to hump another boy dog.
12:41 jcpham gay dogs porn was something i didn't entirely want to see today
12:42 HeySteve shouldn't have joined #dogecoin then
12:42 benkay "gay" is a human thing, KRS1.
12:44 jcpham uright
12:44 jcpham not sure dogs can be "gay"
12:45 chetty http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/woman-marries-pet-dog-amanda-rodgers-sheba-british-divorcee-croatia/1/347611.html
12:45 ozbot Dismayed by men, 47-year-old UK woman 'marries' pet dog : Europe, News - India Today
12:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4050 @ 0.00015002 = 0.6076 BTC [-] {6}
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.00389975 = 1.322 BTC [-]
12:53 benkay trough of disillusionment? trough of disillusionment.
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.59000075 = 9.44 BTC [-] {4}
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00591095 = 0.7684 BTC [-] {3}
12:57 KRS1 It seems your dog can indeed be gay..
12:58 KRS1 http://www.examiner.com/article/can-a-dog-be-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual-new-test-says-yes
12:58 ozbot Can a dog be gay, lesbian or bisexual? New test says yes - Chicago animal welfare | Examiner.com
12:58 KRS1 Crazy.
12:58 benkay "examiner"
12:58 benkay nope.jpg
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59 = 4.13 BTC [-]
13:02 KRS1 It seems there's a whole subculture of queer K9's.. http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003456755/35567200_rainbow_condom_dog20gay_xlarge.jpeg
13:02 KRS1 I knew it..there was like this dog once who always walked kind of sideways...ever since I first saw it I kind of wondered.
13:03 KRS1 And some even cross their legs.
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 275 @ 0.00590058 = 1.6227 BTC [-] {2}
13:08 asciilifeform http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8707829.stm
13:08 asciilifeform 'As Mr Mullick demonstrated how to tie a "good noose" around a neck for the cameras, half a dozen children around Bengal imitated his moves and accidentally strangled friends and relatives.' << lol
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7468 @ 0.00014504 = 1.0832 BTC [-] {6}
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0039853 = 0.9963 BTC [+] {5}
13:10 ThickAsThieves http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/12/bitcoin-isnt-a-currency-cant-replace-gold-goldman-sachs/
13:10 ozbot Bitcoin Isn’t a Currency, Can’t Replace Gold: Goldman Sachs - MoneyBeat - WSJ
13:10 mircea_popescu KRS1 there's no such thing as gay dogs. dogs, much like people, will fuck other male dogs if no female dogs are available.
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0408 = 0.1224 BTC [-]
13:11 asciilifeform ' If a ledger-based technology is to succeed, the cyber-currency would very likely have to have some type of fixed exchange rate in order to overcome this obstacle.' << wtf ?
13:11 ThickAsThieves the wsj link inexplicably has a pic of dorian
13:12 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves starting to get a little pannicky, are they :D
13:12 ThickAsThieves indeed
13:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform first they lol, then they fight,
13:12 mircea_popescu then mp fucks their skulls and pisses in their eye sockets
13:12 mike_c no, first they ignore
13:12 mike_c then they lol, etc.
13:12 mircea_popescu aok
13:13 mike_c then the eye socket thing
13:13 ThickAsThieves they spell out their own doom without realizing it, as usual
13:13 ThickAsThieves "With millenniums of history behind it as a hedge against debasement, the key to gold’s success is the stability and predictability of its demand."
13:14 asciilifeform these folks are still puzzling over the question of how to fill a brick of btc with tungsten.
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.005911 = 0.1064 BTC [+] {2}
13:17 ThickAsThieves maybe they have, NYC BTC exchange inevitable...
13:18 ThickAsThieves what are the odds itll be blockahain transparent?
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.005911 = 0.13 BTC [+]
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5107 @ 0.0001407 = 0.7186 BTC [-] {8}
13:25 benkay purt darn near zero
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09099793 = 0.273 BTC [+] {3}
13:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly.
13:29 mircea_popescu in other news, tea party runs off with seat in always-democrat constituency
13:29 thestringpuller lolol bitcoins filled with tungsten
13:30 thestringpuller asciilifeform i'ma start using that one
13:30 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nil. what are the odds it'll be ok'd ?
13:31 mircea_popescu remember, this is bitcoin. the powers that are can tear the powers that wannabe a new one quite easily
13:31 mircea_popescu as the sore holes of mtgox, the foundation, etc etc scattered all over the forum neatly attest.
13:31 mircea_popescu keiser with his tv hordes is still smarting and so on.
13:31 jcpham fill all bitcoin bars with tungsten immediately
13:31 jcpham we''ll be rreech
13:34 mircea_popescu people seriously think Judy Collins was hawt at any point ?!
13:35 C01DA51CE who?
13:35 C01DA51CE http://i.imgur.com/w4PCJ9I.jpg
13:35 C01DA51CE those are pretty hot
13:36 C01DA51CE judy collins has looked like she had facial surgery but she
13:36 C01DA51CE never did
13:39 ThickAsThieves nah, not hot: http://www.biography.com/people/judy-collins-16243150
13:39 ThickAsThieves looks a bit like an exmale
13:40 mircea_popescu i agree.
13:41 mircea_popescu people seem to have this strange aesthetic amnesia when discussing faux 1960s "famous" tarts.
13:41 mircea_popescu a la baez and whatnot.
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14:03 asciilifeform http://www.securelist.com/en/advisories/57325 << loltron
14:03 ozbot Microsoft Windows DirectShow JPEG Images Parsing Memory Corruption Vulnerability - Securelist
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00085829 = 21.071 BTC [-]
14:04 benkay coooooool
14:04 mircea_popescu lmao
14:05 joecool too bad didn't come out after april 15th
14:05 mircea_popescu why april 15th ?
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+]
14:08 ThickAsThieves i find it hard to believe that a JPG exploit can exist by mistake...
14:08 mircea_popescu in windows ?
14:08 mircea_popescu the entire codestack exists by mistake
14:08 ThickAsThieves yes
14:08 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: if a man can shoot himself in the back of the head three times by mistake, then why not this.
14:08 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:09 ThickAsThieves got me there!
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [+]
14:09 mircea_popescu that's easy asciilifeform just use a mirror.
14:09 asciilifeform view lolcat, get pwnd.
14:10 mircea_popescu pwndcat
14:10 asciilifeform or .bait.
14:10 mircea_popescu did anyone put this on reddit or we've not told them yet
14:10 asciilifeform damned if i know. it's been out for days. 'spent'.
14:10 ThickAsThieves it was on theverge or something popular
14:10 C01DA51CE i think its only through DirectShow
14:11 ThickAsThieves ^
14:11 C01DA51CE dont know who which apps use this
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.0459 = 0.3213 BTC [+]
14:11 ThickAsThieves i dont think viewing JPG in web browser is susceptible
14:11 ThickAsThieves where most people view them
14:11 C01DA51CE i heard skype
14:11 C01DA51CE is vuln
14:11 ThickAsThieves although dunno if IE uses Directshow
14:12 ThickAsThieves well we know Skype is NSAized
14:12 mircea_popescu "DirectShow (sometimes abbreviated as DS or DShow), codename Quartz, is a multimedia framework and API produced by Microsoft for software developers to perform various operations with media files or streams. It is the replacement for Microsoft's earlier Video for Windows technology."
14:13 ThickAsThieves hmm i recall something else about quartz at some point
14:13 mircea_popescu basically this was activex v2
14:13 ThickAsThieves maybe with Apple?
14:14 mike_c directshow is part of DirectX, their opengl thingie.
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07 = 0.42 BTC [+] {2}
14:14 C01DA51CE sounds like
14:14 C01DA51CE a porno
14:15 mircea_popescu mike_c nah, wasn't part of directx back in like... a decade ago at least
14:15 mike_c yeah it was, i used it.
14:15 mike_c over a decade ago :)
14:15 mircea_popescu basically, the dev in charge of directx didn't want the shit in there anymore
14:15 mircea_popescu so they moved it
14:16 mike_c "Previous versions of the DirectShow SDK were included in the DirectX SDK. ", yeah, they took it out in 2005
14:16 mircea_popescu aok
14:17 ThickAsThieves http://www.bjpenn.com/grappler-vomits-submits-after-opponent-farts-in-his-face/
14:17 ozbot Grappler Vomits & Submits After Opponent Farts In His Face UFC News | MMA News - BJPENN.COM
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00086006 = 15.3521 BTC [+] {2}
14:17 mike_c haha " After this version, DirectShow was moved to the Windows SDK". the windows devs didn't mind having it in their pile of crap
14:17 mircea_popescu well... directx was a pretty decent package.
14:17 mircea_popescu at least even with random crap like say ubuntu
14:17 ThickAsThieves used heavily in games, no?
14:17 mircea_popescu windows however...
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00086054 = 9.1648 BTC [+]
14:18 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah, for a good two decades that pillar held. technical excellence in directx + marketing excellence in ms hq ensured market domination for windows
14:20 asciilifeform a bit of an oversimplification
14:20 asciilifeform ignores master touches like conniving with intel to stab os/2 in the back, etc.
14:21 mircea_popescu sure.
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.00623 = 0.1246 BTC [-]
14:25 Mats_cd03 ThickAsThieves: what btc venue would you recommend for sports betting
14:25 ThickAsThieves i wouldnt recommend sports betting
14:25 ThickAsThieves sooo
14:26 Mats_cd03 so dongs
14:26 mircea_popescu ;;estimate
14:26 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 4224066657.81 based on data since last change | 4501944129.48 based on data for last three days
14:27 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/
14:27 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 5.6B before April
14:27 mircea_popescu tight huh
14:28 ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/tuurdemeester/status/443779660002754562/photo/1
14:28 ozbot Twitter / tuurdemeester: Goldman Sachs drops the bomb: ...
14:28 ThickAsThieves not really sure what that is
14:29 ThickAsThieves i guess there's a GS report on BTC?
14:30 asciilifeform tuurdemeester - is that something like a burgomeister, but...?
14:31 ThickAsThieves http://www.coinometrics.com/bitcoin/btix?utm_content=bufferfd226
14:31 ThickAsThieves btc beats WU
14:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they paid for a wsj piece to explain how bitcoin isn't as good as gold.
14:31 mircea_popescu imagine that :D
14:32 jcpham here's your new forum: https://bitcointa.lk/pages/features/
14:33 benkay the point of bitcointalk.org being the information asymmetry, though.
14:36 ThickAsThieves jcpham, i dont get it
14:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: quite a few u.s. folks know 'the dirt' re: 'the boston tea party.' it isn't exactly a national secret.
14:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ask teenaged girls sometime.
14:38 joecool asciilifeform: are you a contributor to buzzfeed?
14:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps i should also ask them, next, the best way to avoid write-hazards on MIPS4.
14:39 asciilifeform joecool: wtf is buzzfeed
14:39 asciilifeform let me guess - aggregator for dope aficionados?
14:39 joecool "top 15 things most americans don't know about the tea party"
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 51 @ 0.00623003 = 0.3177 BTC [+] {2}
14:39 joecool that sort of headline
14:41 asciilifeform someone must tell Tuurdemeester about Expertsexchange.
14:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but suzanne was 19ish
14:43 mircea_popescu inconvenient as it may be, girls aged 16 to 19ish are the country.
14:45 asciilifeform 'buzzfeed' - the bus bars which supply current to an electric chair?
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 167 @ 0.0059 = 0.9853 BTC [-]
14:49 kakobrekla re previous twitter link, i thought he was trolling with his name, but then i checked www.tuurdemeester.com/subscribe/ and i see its fuckin real. fuckin unreal.
14:50 kakobrekla am i the only one that thinks 'turd master' ?
14:51 benkay nope.jpg
14:52 asciilifeform kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2014#556748
14:52 dub no worse than cockburn
14:52 kakobrekla burgomeister?
14:53 kakobrekla and apparently i missed your line previously.
14:53 asciilifeform ;;google burgomeister
14:53 gribble The Burgomeister's Demesne: <http://www.burgomeister.org/>; burgomeister.org • Index page: <http://www.burgomeister.org/forum/>; Burgomaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgomaster>
14:54 asciilifeform sometimes i wonder if i actually learned english, or was cheated and given something vaguely compatible
14:54 asciilifeform like pcdos vs. msdos
14:54 kakobrekla its closer to turd master, by the cover and by the content
14:55 mircea_popescu kakobrekla nope, not the only one.
14:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform english is a slut like that.
14:56 kakobrekla good, cause for a second there i thought i was psychotic or something
14:56 dub dat moment when
14:57 asciilifeform names are working parts. even matsushita finally changed its name.
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0059 = 0.177 BTC [-]
15:02 dub http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Faggoter-1
15:02 ozbot Mary Faggoter 1696 - Seeking Genealogy
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [-]
15:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.59 = 5.9 BTC [-]
15:07 KRS1 lol wut
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.06999999 = 2.24 BTC [+] {3}
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5821 = 4.0747 BTC [-]
15:08 mircea_popescu http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/4316.jpg
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.582 BTC [-]
15:09 KRS1 I hate Wal Mart, but people of Wal Mart website is such fun.
15:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.581454 = 3.4887 BTC [-] {3}
15:10 mircea_popescu i've never been
15:10 mircea_popescu but it's basically just a supermarket neh ?
15:10 benkay http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/62880/caption-contest-22/
15:10 ozbot Caption Contest - People Of Walmart
15:10 benkay *the* supermarket.
15:10 KRS1 its...an experience. Its so big its ridiculous and you can't find help. The one where I live sells everything from sardines to tires.
15:10 asciilifeform i went once, in >2 decades. it was a warehouse full of el-cheapo.
15:11 asciilifeform there are many similar shops
15:11 KRS1 They actually have some decent goods.
15:11 KRS1 When you go to leave, the checkouts make a beeping sound. When multiplied by 20+ checkout lanes the sound is deafening. The people are low class and aren't afraid to show it.
15:12 benkay http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/6012.jpg
15:13 KRS1 The one where I live is also 24 hours. Its strange.
15:14 KRS1 In case you need like...a hammer, new underwear and a lamp at 4AM.
15:14 kakobrekla i actually like the 24 hourness in general
15:14 benkay i found mircea_popescu: http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/6002.jpg
15:15 KRS1 kakobrekla: i agree, late/odd hours are the only time I'll go, if I ever do go. The daytime is just so crazy.
15:15 KRS1 LOL benkay
15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.61408464 = 12.2817 BTC [+] {8}
15:19 mircea_popescu lol my beard is much thicker than that shit
15:28 dub just a supermarket and the biggest company in th eworld by a couple of metrics
15:30 ThickAsThieves i considered taking advantage of this Target Credit Monitoring thing
15:30 ThickAsThieves but the whole thing feels like a scam itself
15:30 ThickAsThieves authorization codes and Experian logos
15:31 ThickAsThieves feels much more like a promotion that will get me more spam for years to come
15:31 ThickAsThieves this fucking world...
15:31 benkay take out all the fiat loans you can
15:31 benkay pray they're not due before we emerge from the Trough.
15:32 benkay or just bail on the US.
15:32 ThickAsThieves i'd have to leave my wife to do so
15:32 dub bonus?
15:32 ThickAsThieves hehe
15:32 ThickAsThieves some days!
15:32 dub is she permanently affixed to .us?
15:32 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: leo szilard supposedly said 'wisdom consist in getting on the train a day before everybody else.'
15:32 ThickAsThieves i know ascii i know
15:33 ThickAsThieves she just got a great job here
15:33 ThickAsThieves one she's wanted for a long time
15:33 asciilifeform this place would probably empty out overnight if everybody had work elsewhere.
15:34 benkay DC in particular?
15:34 asciilifeform usa
15:34 ThickAsThieves it's already happening
15:34 benkay i don't think there's enough 'work' to absorb all the meat that would need to emigrate to empty out the usa.
15:34 ThickAsThieves americans dont wanna work anyway
15:34 ThickAsThieves immigrants do all the work
15:35 asciilifeform maybe poor choice of words. 'employment' rather than 'work'
15:35 ThickAsThieves maybe
15:36 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: its not that americans dont want to work
15:36 dub its not like we're talking about actual work
15:36 benkay are there other socialist regimes with the printing presses to employ such volumes of cattle, asciilifeform?
15:36 Diablo-D3 its just that americans have been brainwashed by the government to have a skewed view of what work is
15:36 dub just distraction for the cattle class
15:36 Diablo-D3 like, they think going to college means something
15:36 dub give them vidya games
15:36 asciilifeform benkay: probably not the cattle. but the folks who actually know some useful trade.
15:36 Diablo-D3 protip: it doesnt, and you will not get a job because you went there
15:37 benkay Diablo-D3: are you 'degreed'?
15:37 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: plus we have the problem of companies illegally hiring mexicans that work at a fraction of minimum wage
15:37 Diablo-D3 benkay: I refuse to hold one.
15:37 benkay did you ever attend one of the 'colleges'?
15:37 Diablo-D3 benkay: degrees are a downright scam for the industry Im in
15:38 blackwhite So I have a question for all you experts. Imagine a bitcoin like protocol that allow you to embed digital assets or watermark certain digital assets. You could in theory imagine everything from digital pokemon cards to creative commons licenses as unique "scarce" resources.
15:38 benkay or straight up reject the whole prop. right out of HS?
15:38 blackwhite Thoughts?
15:38 Diablo-D3 benkay: rejected the whole thing from the get go.
15:38 Diablo-D3 benkay: I didnt even take high school seriously.
15:38 Diablo-D3 it was 4 years of attempted brainwashing that I successfully resisted
15:38 benkay public school?
15:38 Diablo-D3 yes
15:38 benkay blackwhite: sounds colored coins etc
15:38 ThickAsThieves <Diablo-D3> ThickAsThieves: plus we have the problem of companies illegally hiring mexicans that work at a fraction of minimum wage/// i dont consider this a problem
15:39 benkay ;;google trilema colored coins
15:39 gribble Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/>; The dork of the month award. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/the-dork-of-the-month-award>; Women Behind Bars pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/women-behind-bars>
15:39 benkay blackwhite: read ^^
15:39 asciilifeform most of the people i know with actual degrees - yours truly included - (sci/eng.) had, at the time of signing up, delusions of employment in academia
15:39 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: I consider it a problem. Americans are turned down for jobs because of companies acting illegally.
15:39 ThickAsThieves i'd rather commiserate with Mexicans than the people that complain about them
15:39 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: Im not blaming the mexcians
15:39 benkay Americans are turned down from jobs because the communist government imposes artificial wage constraints.
15:39 Diablo-D3 they have a pretty sweet deal
15:40 asciilifeform Diablo-D3: i have yet to run into an american who lamented 'i'd like to find work picking tomatoes, but couldn't on account of mexicans'
15:40 Diablo-D3 they get to get out of that shithole homeland of theirs and get paid a shitload of money by their standards
15:40 Diablo-D3 asciilifeform: because you'll never find a job listing for that.
15:40 ThickAsThieves asciilifeform, then you must have never been to a border state
15:40 dub lol
15:40 Diablo-D3 asciilifeform: all the big agriculture farms go out and find mexicans to work there and illegally bring them into the country
15:41 blackwhite You won't find a listing for that because no one want to take it unless they are mexicans. It's more or less the same problem around the world
15:41 blackwhite immigrants take the shitty jobs
15:41 Diablo-D3 blackwhite: there are people in america that will take any job
15:41 Diablo-D3 there are people who have applied to 1000 different jobs and were turned down
15:41 asciilifeform we have tighter 'caste stratification' here than in victorian england. an engineer, programmer, even lowly clerk, might live a whole life without speaking to these folks.
15:41 blackwhite not enough and not for what they will be paid
15:41 Diablo-D3 they're turned down for insane reasons
15:41 Diablo-D3 "oh, you have a degree, we dont want you"
15:42 benkay no, that's a good reason.
15:42 Diablo-D3 "oh, you're too old" (30s is too old? wow)
15:42 Diablo-D3 "oh, we need a minority"
15:42 benkay also a good reason.
15:42 Diablo-D3 "oh, we need a woman"
15:42 ThickAsThieves wtf is this with "good reason"
15:42 Diablo-D3 its a fucking job at mcdonalds you fucks
15:42 Diablo-D3 anyone can work it
15:42 benkay gotta be young
15:42 dub thats cause telling them they are too fat is discrimination
15:42 ThickAsThieves they don't need a good reason in the losing party's estimation
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.09299979 = 0.186 BTC [+]
15:42 benkay and cheap
15:42 Diablo-D3 dub: and that doesnt even make sense
15:42 Diablo-D3 one third of america is too fat
15:42 benkay and instructable.
15:42 benkay american college students are so self-important they can barely work service industry gigs.
15:43 Diablo-D3 benkay: yeah, they're fucked
15:43 asciilifeform incidentally, even a 100% proper science/maths/etc degree can be a liability, as you'll only be considered for the higher paygrades (naturally tighter musical chairs)
15:43 Diablo-D3 I feel sorry for them
15:43 benkay "but my feminism is insulted every day in this gig!"
15:43 ThickAsThieves i never hired a college graduate
15:43 blackwhite Diablo-D3 they are too fat because they eat shit food. They might as well die of starvation because they sure will die from obesity
15:43 ThickAsThieves they are broken
15:43 Diablo-D3 they were brainwashed into thinking untruths by the governemt
15:43 Diablo-D3 blackwhite: yes, and the sooner we burn the wheat and corn crops the better
15:43 blackwhite ahh I see we got a ancapper in the house :)
15:43 Diablo-D3 wheat, corn, sugar cain, all highly toxic drugs that should be on the schedule I list
15:43 ThickAsThieves actually i probably did hire some, i wouldnt remember because i wouldnt have cared
15:44 benkay asciilifeform: i've seen *that* up close and personally.
15:44 Diablo-D3 treat those fucks like the terrorists they are
15:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5840001 = 1.168 BTC [-] {2}
15:44 ThickAsThieves diablo-d3 always bringing it back to paleo
15:44 ThickAsThieves ...
15:45 Diablo-D3 hey, if we're going to talk about fat people, bringing up the cure is fair game
15:45 Diablo-D3 the government loves to brainwash people
15:45 ThickAsThieves paleo is no cure
15:45 ThickAsThieves fuck outta he
15:45 ThickAsThieves a
15:45 Diablo-D3 it tells kids in high school "get a degree at any cost no matter what, otherwise you'll never get a job"
15:45 asciilifeform 'a hunchback is cured by the grave.' (rus. proverb)
15:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5830002 = 1.749 BTC [-]
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15:45 asciilifeform s/cured/straightened
15:46 Diablo-D3 it tells fat people "dont eat meat, dont eat fat, dont eat cholesterol, eat wheat and corn and other "vegetables" like them" and people keep getting fatter on that insane advice
15:46 Diablo-D3 you can run ten thousand miles and never get skinny, you can eat the FDA recommended diet and never get skinny
15:46 ThickAsThieves lol
15:46 ThickAsThieves you are fucking insane
15:46 ThickAsThieves people arent fat cuz wheat
15:46 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: I went from 340 to 210
15:46 ThickAsThieves so
15:46 Diablo-D3 by following a strict paleo diet
15:47 Diablo-D3 I have all the proof I need to know I'm right. I'm living proof.
15:47 ThickAsThieves go for a run 3 times a week for same result
15:47 Diablo-D3 nope
15:47 Diablo-D3 and fat people shouldnt run
15:47 ThickAsThieves go whole foods for same result
15:47 Diablo-D3 thats a good way to getting a heart attack
15:47 ThickAsThieves baby steps
15:47 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: the thing is, I lost this weight without increased exercise.
15:48 ThickAsThieves lol
15:48 Diablo-D3 so that blows your theory out of the water
15:48 ThickAsThieves and that's a good thing?
15:48 Diablo-D3 my body finally regulating itself? thats a GREAT thing
15:48 ThickAsThieves look man, go write a fucking book or do a documentary
15:48 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: why do you hate America?
15:48 Diablo-D3 seriously
15:48 dub whats to like?
15:48 benkay little bit of column a, little bit of column b
15:48 ThickAsThieves just cuz you found an angle doesnt make it the divine answer to all things
15:48 Diablo-D3 all you do is bitch when I bring up the fact obesity has been cured.
15:49 benkay Diablo-D3's clearly all the way in column a.
15:49 dub Diablo-D3 is clearly a crackhead
15:49 Diablo-D3 The FDA can no longer brainwash america.
15:49 dub this is old news
15:49 ThickAsThieves people have been curing obesity 100 times over
15:49 Diablo-D3 Their reign of terror is over.
15:49 ThickAsThieves yet it exists
15:49 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: you sound fat.
15:49 ThickAsThieves haha
15:50 ThickAsThieves certainly not in the sense you imagine
15:50 ThickAsThieves i attribute any overweight lbs to sitting in this chair too much
15:50 ThickAsThieves nothing more
15:50 Diablo-D3 I attribute it to government interference in the natural diet of humans.
15:51 ThickAsThieves dude i'm vegan
15:51 Diablo-D3 Thats even worse
15:51 Diablo-D3 no wonder you're sick
15:51 Diablo-D3 eat meat
15:51 ThickAsThieves will it make me like you?
15:51 benkay Diablo-D3: what's your macro ratio?
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00399999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
15:52 Diablo-D3 benkay: is there a web calculator for that somewhere?
15:52 benkay uh
15:52 benkay you should be able to estimate.
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9617 @ 0.00013531 = 1.3013 BTC [-] {12}
15:52 benkay take like 15 minutes
15:52 ThickAsThieves he's not even arguing about ratios though
15:53 Diablo-D3 benkay: well like, is it based on what I eat?
15:53 ThickAsThieves he's arguing types of protein, etc
15:53 benkay do you do nutritional suppositories?!
15:53 benkay of course the stuff that goes in your face
15:53 Diablo-D3 benkay: No I mean, is that the only part of the calculation?
15:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19372 @ 0.00010835 = 2.099 BTC [-] {15}
15:53 benkay i'd assume - do you have other input sources to consider?
15:54 Diablo-D3 benkay: because like, I have quite little carb intake
15:54 ThickAsThieves i think maybe a common ground here might be, we can all agree that the processed a food is, and the more unnatural chemicals make it up or are used to create it, the worse the food is
15:54 Diablo-D3 benkay: its mostly protein and fat
15:54 ThickAsThieves the more processed*
15:54 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: yes, but grains and sugars only exist in processed form
15:54 ThickAsThieves my apple is processed?
15:55 ThickAsThieves i also didnt say all processing is bad
15:55 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: eating natural fruit is about the only source of sugars pretty much
15:56 benkay i'm okay with babe-baked breads. in moderation.
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7631 @ 0.000099 = 0.7555 BTC [-] {2}
15:56 Diablo-D3 so lets find out how many grams of various things I ate today
15:57 dub is unnatural fruit a thing?
15:57 Diablo-D3 dub: yeah, sadly
15:57 ThickAsThieves was gonna asl
15:57 ThickAsThieves ask*
15:57 Diablo-D3 dub: like, sugar loaded applesuaces
15:57 benkay so Diablo-D3 once you drop all the weight via completely cutting out carbs, one can lead a pretty healthy life eating the occasional sugar thing (or beer, or wine), provided you supplement with exercise.
15:57 Diablo-D3 sugar loaded dried fruits
15:57 Diablo-D3 etc
15:57 benkay not exercising is just as bad as living on carbs.
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28884 @ 0.00085437 = 24.6776 BTC [-] {2}
15:58 Diablo-D3 113g of this steak is 140 calories, 3.5g of fat, 0 carbs, 26g of protein....
15:58 ThickAsThieves really i think D3 simply cherishes what got him healthy to the point of fanaticism
15:58 Diablo-D3 I ate 606 grams of it
15:58 benkay ThickAsThieves: that's kinda what i'm driving at
15:58 ThickAsThieves it's admirable in a way
15:58 ThickAsThieves but annoying as fuck
15:58 dub ThickAsThieves: its the first thing he's ever stuck to for more than a minute
15:58 Diablo-D3 so thats 751 calories....
15:59 Diablo-D3 18.7 grams of fat...
15:59 benkay ;;calc 3.5/(26+3.5)
15:59 gribble 0.118644067797
15:59 ThickAsThieves i have been the same way with jogging at times
15:59 Diablo-D3 and 139 grams of protein
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15:59 ThickAsThieves i have this 3-year or so cycle where i get 40lbs overweight and pick up jogging again
15:59 ThickAsThieves it's not perfect
16:00 ThickAsThieves but it's my thing
16:00 ThickAsThieves so when people talk about losing weight
16:00 ThickAsThieves i just say
16:00 ThickAsThieves jog!
16:00 Diablo-D3 now for the vegs...
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16:01 Diablo-D3 84g (entire bag is 408g, I eat entire bag), 25 calories, 0g fat, 5g carbs, 0 protein
16:01 Diablo-D3 121 calories...
16:01 ThickAsThieves D3 poops like a champion
16:01 Diablo-D3 24g carbs
16:01 Diablo-D3 so for total today I ate...
16:02 Diablo-D3 872 calories...
16:02 benkay ;;calc 3.5 * (606/113)
16:02 gribble 18.7699115044
16:02 Diablo-D3 18.7 grams of fat, 24g carbs...
16:03 benkay ;;calc 18.7699115044/(606 + 408)
16:03 gribble 0.0185107608525
16:03 Diablo-D3 and 139g of protein
16:03 benkay homie you're cruising for gout
16:03 dub what is a bag of veggies?
16:03 Diablo-D3 dub: I get birds eye frozen stir fry shit
16:03 Diablo-D3 its actually rather good
16:03 dub you are fuckign retarded dude
16:03 Diablo-D3 its hard to find frozen that isnt shit
16:03 benkay Diablo-D3: how old are you?
16:04 dub whats wrong with fresh?
16:04 Diablo-D3 benkay: 30
16:04 benkay please get some fat in your diet
16:04 Diablo-D3 dub: nothing, it just spoils too quickly and its hard to get stuff grown in america most of the year
16:04 Diablo-D3 benkay: 18.7g of fat isnt enough?!
16:04 benkay 18.7/(606+408)
16:04 Diablo-D3 benkay: dude, thats like, way above what the FDA brainwashed people to believe is the maximum
16:04 benkay ;;calc 18.7/(606+408)
16:04 gribble 0.0184418145957
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16:05 benkay ah i'm fucking that up
16:05 benkay what's the cal/g fat?
16:05 benkay 9
16:05 artifexd_afk 9
16:05 Diablo-D3 872 calories, 18.7g of fat
16:05 benkay ;;calc 18.7*9/872
16:05 gribble 0.193004587156
16:05 benkay so 20%
16:06 benkay 75% protein is a recipe for gout
16:06 mircea_popescu <benkay> pray they're not due before we emerge from the Trough. << no actually : take loan, buy bitcoin, give bank the finger.
16:06 mircea_popescu judge can order whatever he wants, the bitcoin he can't touch
16:06 mircea_popescu help bring down the us banking system.
16:06 dub benkay: there are few real rules
16:06 benkay mhm.
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.583052 = 14.5763 BTC [+] {4}
16:07 dub benkay: people are different, the only way to apply any science is test your blood regularly
16:07 benkay heard of a thing called an "operating envelope", dub?
16:07 benkay i have no idea what exactly the dropoff is, but 75% protein for an extended period of time is fukken dangerous.
16:07 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> benkay: probably not the cattle. but the folks who actually know some useful trade. << most of those have already left.
16:07 BingoBoingo benkay: Maybe we bet on whether gout or kidney disease happens firstsies?
16:07 dub benkay: according to who?
16:07 benkay *shrug*
16:07 benkay nobody, obviously.
16:08 dub the answer is the answer
16:08 Diablo-D3 wikipedia says gout is caused by inflamation
16:09 dub its caused by uric (sp?) acid
16:09 ThickAsThieves :/
16:09 mircea_popescu <benkay> american college students are so self-important they can barely work service industry gigs. << this.
16:09 Diablo-D3 dub: ahh, so THATS what that test is for
16:10 asciilifeform but work they do.
16:10 mircea_popescu whoa shit i can;'t keep uop with you people
16:10 mircea_popescu type slower
16:10 asciilifeform coffee shop in this town is, afaik, 100% uni grads.
16:10 pLambert if your body is burning protein for energy, you will have to get rid of all the nitrogen somehow, which wears out your kidneys
16:10 Diablo-D3 pLambert: yes and no
16:10 Diablo-D3 pLambert: there is a level where too much protein is bad
16:11 asciilifeform polar explorers, 'pemmican'
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16:11 Mats_cd03 http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20030317/high-protein-diets-can-hurt-kidneys
16:11 ozbot High-Protein Diets Can Hurt Kidneys
16:11 Diablo-D3 but its a lot higher than the FDA would like you to believe
16:11 Mats_cd03 ketosis, etc
16:11 Diablo-D3 yeah, I wish people would quit trying to demonize ketosis
16:11 mircea_popescu pLambert has it pretty much
16:11 Diablo-D3 ketosis is a good thing if you're losing weight
16:11 ThickAsThieves hehe
16:11 mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 it widely depends on the genetics of the individual in question
16:11 dub if your basis for anything is the FDA you're already fucked btw
16:11 ThickAsThieves losing weight isnt purely a good thing
16:12 Mats_cd03 the psychological effects are what most people are concerned about
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.5812616 = 14.5315 BTC [-] {3}
16:12 mircea_popescu in general people vary metabolically two even three degrees of magnitude.
16:12 dub those numbers don't come from science
16:12 Diablo-D3 its only an issue if you're eating the typical american diet and you have, say, diabetes
16:12 pLambert when I did paleo, it was just a moderate amount of meat, and tons of fruit and veggies
16:12 Diablo-D3 dub: I agree, the FDA is full of shit
16:12 mircea_popescu alcohol that'll kill a pacific islander = 0.1% of the dose well tolerated by a caucasian
16:12 mircea_popescu etc
16:13 pLambert say whatever you want, but if you are burning protein the nitrogen is going out of your body via urine.
16:13 mircea_popescu some sweat.
16:13 Diablo-D3 pLambert: I agree
16:13 Diablo-D3 pLambert: but we're supposed to be burning fats and protein, not carbs
16:13 ThickAsThieves anyone have insight as to what will happen if abnormal amounts of ginger are consumed regularly?
16:13 mircea_popescu "supposed"
16:13 pLambert no, burn carbs and fats, not protein
16:14 benkay mircea_popescu: orders of magnitude you say? does this apply to intelligence? o.O
16:14 mircea_popescu we're supposed to burn whatever we get mouths on
16:14 mircea_popescu benkay easily.
16:14 pLambert your brain needs glucose to work
16:14 benkay ;)
16:14 Diablo-D3 burning carbs too much doesnt work
16:14 dub ThickAsThieves: gingervitis? sorry
16:14 Diablo-D3 its why the american diet fails
16:14 ThickAsThieves lol
16:14 Diablo-D3 dub: argh
16:14 mircea_popescu pLambert that is true, but it's also true a wide array of thing can be reformed into glucose
16:14 mircea_popescu including old rags
16:15 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves probably at the worst some digestive tract inflamation
16:15 ThickAsThieves it is an anti-inflammatory
16:15 Diablo-D3 ginger is also delicious
16:16 dub usually too much of anything is bad
16:16 mircea_popescu that it may be
16:16 Diablo-D3 pLambert: so, theres a blood test for this nitrogen shit, right?
16:16 ThickAsThieves a piss test?
16:16 pLambert you could probably have your doctor do it, but I don't think you can do it at home
16:17 pLambert I think they look for ketones in the blood as a marker for kidney failure?
16:17 mircea_popescu ketoacidosis is prolly picked up by diabetic tests
16:17 Diablo-D3 no not for ketones
16:17 Diablo-D3 I already did a piss test for that, havent gotten the results yet
16:18 mircea_popescu yeah by the time you have that problem you're well screwed.
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16:18 ThickAsThieves In normal doses, ginger may cause stomachache, diarrhea or loose stools. Recent studies have indicated that large overdoses can cause depression or an irregular heartbeat.
16:18 ThickAsThieves People with gallstones should not use ginger without a physician's authorization.
16:18 pLambert I'm not a doctor, I'm just a chemist
16:18 mircea_popescu you're a chemist ?!
16:18 pLambert yeah, why?
16:18 Diablo-D3 okay, one of these tests is "blood urea nitrogen"
16:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's an irritant, right ? it may be a systemic antiinflamatory, but it inflamates teh mucuous digestive tract
16:19 mircea_popescu no particular reason, just curious.
16:19 ThickAsThieves it being spicy i suppose is the first indiator
16:19 ThickAsThieves c
16:20 pLambert https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375996.0
16:20 ozbot I will answer chemistry questions for BTC tips
16:20 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves http://www.mega.nu/ampp/drugtext/morgan1.html grep for ginger btw
16:21 mircea_popescu how did that go lol. lota druggies?
16:22 benkay hey mike_c where did you get that line about liquid markets and the theft of capital?
16:22 benkay nm foundit
16:22 ThickAsThieves to make it more interesting, i've had joint pains in my knees for a long time
16:23 mircea_popescu "The past few days I have been doing a model reaction reacting 1-octene with syngas (CO and H2) to make nonanal" y non anal ?
16:23 mircea_popescu anal is good yo.
16:23 ThickAsThieves probly how teh ginger craving began
16:23 pLambert non-anal is not the same as nonan-al :)
16:24 mircea_popescu hehe
16:27 ThickAsThieves i guess i better cut back on the ginger
16:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves turns out it's a motor neuron toxic
16:32 benkay (The
16:32 benkay projections will be dazzling - the advocates will be sincere -
16:32 benkay but, in the end, major additional investment in a terrible
16:32 benkay industry usually is about as rewarding as struggling in
16:32 benkay quicksand.)
16:33 ThickAsThieves maybe i should take up pot instead
16:33 ThickAsThieves my dad has fibromyalgia, maybe i'm getting there too
16:34 ThickAsThieves i dont drink or do any other drugs anymore, and this seems to be leading to odd cravings
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16:34 ThickAsThieves i think my brain is just telling me to eat away pains or something
16:35 ThickAsThieves before ginger was strong desire for very hoppy beers
16:35 pLambert I have heard the paleo diet gets rid of inflamations and discomforts ...
16:35 ThickAsThieves i've heard whole food diet does same
16:35 ThickAsThieves no meat required
16:35 mircea_popescu just as long as you don't make a lifetime out of it i dun see what it can hurt
16:35 pLambert you don't need meat for paleo
16:35 ThickAsThieves d3 would surely disagree
16:36 ThickAsThieves turns out hops are related to marijuana
16:36 ThickAsThieves cannibinoids
16:38 ThickAsThieves terpenoids
16:40 mircea_popescu http://t.co/TYx0hoW7OX
16:40 ozbot Wells Fargo made up on-demand foreclosure papers plan: court filing charges | New York Post
16:41 asciilifeform some lost soul will try to make use of this 'revelation' and accidentally out of a window.
16:41 ThickAsThieves too bad, they seemed to be one of the least shady banks left
16:41 mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/europe/russia-reins-in-another-news-organization.html?_r=0
16:42 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there's no less shady bank left. they are exactly equally shady, like communicating vessels
16:42 mircea_popescu "prevailing business best practices" it's called.
16:43 asciilifeform meanwhile,
16:43 asciilifeform http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-crimean-crisis-and-western-bias.html
16:43 ozbot ClubOrlov: The Crimean “Crisis” and Western Bias
16:43 asciilifeform 'The guest post from Renée last week appeared on this blog because Huffington Post refused to run it. And now I hear that no comment linking the new Ukrainian government to the neo-Nazis or the neo-Nazis to the mass murder in Kiev can get through on any news site. It seems like there is an actual news blackout on this message.'
16:43 mircea_popescu amusingly enough, "antisemite" is now an official russian govt insult
16:43 mircea_popescu mindboggling
16:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's definitely a blackout, it being the message of the enemy. duh.
16:44 asciilifeform galicia (western ua) is a curious 'nature preserve', where critters thought extinct in the 1940s roam freely.
16:44 mircea_popescu meanwhile elsewhere,
16:44 mircea_popescu "Former Jefferies Group managing director and senior trader, Jesse Litvak, indicted on charges of securities fraud, fraud connected to the US Troubled Asset Relief Program (Tarp) and falsifying statements to the federal government, has been convicted of defrauding investors.
16:44 mircea_popescu A federal jury found Litvak guilty on all counts, according to media reports. The 12-member jury found Litvak guilty on 15 criminal counts, including 10 of securities fraud. The defendant had pleaded not guilty to the 15 counts."
16:44 asciilifeform best proof of this oddity - their own www sites.
16:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the glatz is obviously eastern prussia, not western ua :D
16:45 asciilifeform truly.
16:46 mircea_popescu most of central europe is so dubious... basically you can give a 5yo a crayon and the map
16:46 mircea_popescu whatever he draws is likely arguable as a "correct" map of the part of the world
16:47 KRS1 I cry for the 'Peans.
16:47 KRS1 This is terrible.
16:48 pLambert My ancestors moved to the US from Bohemia, now I can't find that place on a map!
16:48 mircea_popescu czech republic.
16:50 mircea_popescu "Suzanne: Well, that could be. The half crazy could pertain to the sadness, but I think it was because I was so on a creative drive and the focuses were so strong in spite of any private grief I may have about my break up with Armand and the wheres and whys. There was so much other wonderful things happening. There was the activism. I was already becoming aware of recycling at a very young, young age and I might say, I
16:50 mircea_popescu might be a pioneer in that because I was going to the Salvation Army and getting old dresses and old pieces of just cloth and making something quite wonderful out of them to dress myself, my child, and to make wonderful clothes."
16:50 mircea_popescu how to be poor and pretend you're really enlightened, a guide.
16:50 mircea_popescu this may come in handy.
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22718 @ 0.00085433 = 19.4087 BTC [-] {2}
16:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22632 @ 0.00085185 = 19.2791 BTC [-]
16:53 TomServo New War Tard post finally, if anybody follows.
16:53 TomServo http://wartard.blogspot.com/2014/03/russia-v-nato-ukraine-crimea-and-new.html
16:53 ozbot War Tard: Russia v NATO: Ukraine, Crimea and the new Cold War.
16:54 benkay TomServo: are you wartard?
16:55 TomServo Nope
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.6145551 = 5.531 BTC [+] {5}
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.618275 = 2.4731 BTC [+] {2}
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+]
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32868 @ 0.00085178 = 27.9963 BTC [-] {2}
17:07 ThickAsThieves ;;gettrust nubbins`
17:07 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
17:08 ThickAsThieves ;;rate nubbins` 1 Pleasure doing business, clear terms, fast turnaround, good communication (illustration project)
17:08 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nubbins` has been recorded.
17:08 nubbins` ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 patron of the arts
17:08 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded.
17:08 nubbins` :D
17:13 benkay WOT in action
17:13 benkay mah niggas
17:24 ThickAsThieves "The London-based bitcoin news provider (Coindesk) plans to announce on Thursday that it is adding Bitfinex to its price index, which currently includes Bitstamp of Slovenia and BTC-e of Bulgaria. Bitfinex is incorporated in Hong Kong."
17:25 ThickAsThieves http://laanwj.github.io/gox_analysis/
17:25 ozbot Mtgox trade data analysis
17:25 ThickAsThieves US/China/Aus buy, Ruskies sell
17:27 wao-ender nice
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 220 @ 0.00052955 = 0.1165 BTC [-] {5}
17:27 dub whats the data from?
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4945 @ 0.00051852 = 2.5641 BTC [-] {16}
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 8009 @ 0.0005 = 4.0045 BTC [-] {3}
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 486 @ 0.00045857 = 0.2229 BTC [-] {13}
17:33 ThickAsThieves http://nude-yoga.com/gallery/#pplightbox[pp_gal]/11/
17:33 ozbot Naked Yoga Pictures and Nude Yoga Videos
17:33 ThickAsThieves they take btc
17:42 nubbins` !t h hif
17:42 assbot [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00040000 / 0.00050966 / 0.00056898 (16635 shares, 8.47819036 BTC), 7D: 0.00040000 / 0.00051735 / 0.00056900 (20677 shares, 10.69731961 BTC), 30D: 0.00036000 / 0.0004874 / 0.00057500 (77065 shares, 37.56136889 BTC)
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00045 = 0.9 BTC [-]
17:44 KRS1 oh kick ass you can finally see the entire female parts
17:44 nubbins` http://www.coinometrics.com/bitcoin/btix?utm_content=bufferfd226
17:44 nubbins` btc > western union
17:45 KRS1 cant help but wonder if you were in a studio full of womens doing naked yoga would you smell ass and vag
17:48 nubbins` yoga pants aren't smell barriers, so i'd say it'd smell the same way yoga classes do now
17:53 diametric nubbins`: i mean not that i'm a fan of WU or anything, but that doesn't really mean anything. I can send coins between wallets all day long and have more transaction volume than WU.
17:53 diametric I still think its a good thing there is such transaction volume, even if it doesn't directly translate to bitcoin being exchanged and moved between people and groups.
18:01 nubbins` nod, good point
18:03 ThickAsThieves i wonder if there are also less wallets with most of the bitcoin in them now
18:03 ThickAsThieves that came out weird
18:04 ThickAsThieves i wonder if fewer addresses hold a high qty of coins
18:04 ThickAsThieves than, say, 6mos ago
18:04 nubbins` you'd think big wallets would get broken up over time
18:04 nubbins` rather than the opposite
18:04 nubbins` but who knows!
18:06 ThickAsThieves i would think same
18:07 ThickAsThieves merely to not have the attention of "Top 50" lists and the like
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 104 @ 0.00395 = 0.4108 BTC [-] {2}
18:13 nubbins` "Cohen was very briefly a member of the Church of Scientology, which he had heard was a 'good place to meet women.'"
18:13 nubbins` lel
18:15 wao-ender M
18:15 wao-ender <3
18:20 nubbins` i tell ya, man
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0061 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
18:20 nubbins` the guy really speaks to me
18:20 nubbins` http://www.leonardcohen.com/us/music/songs-leonard-cohen/stranger-song
18:20 ozbot The Stranger Song | The Official Leonard Cohen Site
18:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 847 @ 0.00016177 = 0.137 BTC [+] {9}
18:21 mircea_popescu KRS1 ass notrly, unless they're dirty sluts. cunt sure.
18:22 nubbins` better chance of the room smelling like dick from the two dudes who show up
18:23 mircea_popescu nubbins` ended up in some zen thing
18:23 nubbins` way it goes
18:23 nubbins` got a stack full of cohen vinyl behind me and i'm sitting here humming it to myself
18:24 mircea_popescu he's great.
18:24 nubbins` "And you say ok the bridge or someplace later."
18:24 nubbins` just fuckin words
18:24 nubbins` but they send a shiver up my spine every time
18:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.093181 = 0.4659 BTC [+]
18:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00399999 = 0.48 BTC [+]
18:35 ThickAsThieves nubbins` you ever hear PJ Harvey's album, Dry?
18:35 nubbins` haven't listened to much pj harvey altho i've got a few friends that are really into her
18:36 ThickAsThieves you might like the old stuff
18:36 ThickAsThieves Dry is my favorite by far
18:36 ThickAsThieves Rid of Me is decent too
18:37 ThickAsThieves she got too polished after those
18:37 ThickAsThieves i think I've already recommend Greg MacPherson to you too
18:37 ThickAsThieves he's Canadian
18:38 ThickAsThieves again the older stuff is better, newer stuff drifting into being too music driven
18:38 Duffer1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_PfwVNmckc
18:38 ozbot Tom Waits - Silent Night & Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis.mpg - YouTube
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00081889 = 20.1037 BTC [-]
18:42 ThickAsThieves and of course I must also recommend David Bazan and Jets to Brazil
18:42 ThickAsThieves again, the older the album the better
18:44 mircea_popescu the older the better huh
18:44 mircea_popescu what exactly is it in contemporaneity that fucks everything over.
18:44 nubbins` signal to noise ratio
18:44 ThickAsThieves i think there are many forces that make this happen
18:44 nubbins` there's still amazing music being made, it's just harder to find
18:44 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:45 ThickAsThieves usually the earlier albums have had much longer to bake
18:45 nubbins` well, this too
18:45 nubbins` there are plenty of old albums that are shit
18:45 ThickAsThieves more depression and emotion went into them as well
18:45 nubbins` we just don't remember them ;D
18:45 ThickAsThieves i do feel depression is a great muse
18:46 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2M_tzB20M
18:46 ThickAsThieves other stressful emotions too
18:47 ThickAsThieves i used to have all this music in me, but then i stopped binge drinking and dating and working for the man
18:47 Neil ThickAsThieves: regarding # addresses with large coin - it's very stable; I've been tracking it. There is a small downtrend except for the top 500 which has been in uptrend
18:48 ThickAsThieves interesting
18:48 ThickAsThieves while i'm unlikely in the top 500, i wouldnt want to be known as such
18:48 mircea_popescu because why ?
18:48 ThickAsThieves why be a target
18:49 ThickAsThieves what gain would it have otherwise
18:49 mircea_popescu dude, you gotta asume your status in the world.
18:49 ThickAsThieves do i?
18:49 Neil Lots of outputs of size around what you spend is what you want; what's someone gonna do with a 5K address apart from break it up again?
18:49 ThickAsThieves am i not?
18:50 mircea_popescu well whats this "be a target" bs.
18:50 mircea_popescu a target of what ? public worship ?
18:50 ThickAsThieves public jealousy
18:51 Neil mircea_popescu: Does the Romanian govt not bother you? Are they not interested tax-wise in your activities?
18:51 ThickAsThieves wtf use do i have to be in these people's heads
18:51 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the reason they're a problem is that their heads are full of shit.
18:52 ThickAsThieves and seeing me on a list would affect that?
18:52 mircea_popescu Neil i have no idea what you're asking. bother me ? why would it bother me. it's my government, it does my laundry.
18:52 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves just discussing the more general point. why should you be in their heads ? because you're cool, and they aren't./
18:52 ThickAsThieves it seems the shitheads would rather tear down and be in denial about those above them while observing
18:53 mircea_popescu so then let them try.
18:53 mircea_popescu prepare the batons, beat them bloody.
18:53 ThickAsThieves or not!
18:53 mircea_popescu why not ?
18:53 mircea_popescu whose world is it, yours or theirs ?
18:53 ThickAsThieves no one's?
18:53 ThickAsThieves i dont know
18:53 mircea_popescu it's gotta be someone's.
18:54 nubbins` nah
18:54 ThickAsThieves all i know is that anyone that might care how much coin I have, i cared too, i'd show em
18:54 nubbins` all an illusion
18:54 ThickAsThieves if i*
18:54 mircea_popescu well sure
18:55 ThickAsThieves i dont see you sharing your addresses anyway!
18:55 mircea_popescu occasionally.
18:56 ThickAsThieves why not openly?
18:56 ThickAsThieves spank us with your superiority
18:56 ThickAsThieves own your world
18:56 Duffer1 i thought that's what trilema was for
18:56 ThickAsThieves dont give him an out
18:56 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: You've got to make some openly know, others less openly known. Just in case someone with the means for abduction possesses a soldering iron.
18:56 Duffer1 :P
18:56 mircea_popescu lol he really got butthurt.
18:57 mircea_popescu what, srsly, does it look to you like i ain't ?
18:57 mircea_popescu "Odi Kosmatos 2m @bitcoinpete @Mircea_Popescu (previous knee-jerk tweet deleted) Hi Mircea, are you the guy who thinks everyone else is stupid? Appropriate!"
18:57 ThickAsThieves no just surprised i didnt note the hypocrisy til now
18:57 mircea_popescu what's so hypocratical about it!
18:57 ThickAsThieves i think i already pointed out what
18:58 ThickAsThieves you are not practicing what you are preaching
18:58 mircea_popescu but i dun see it, i mean what exactly ? mpex has at least one well known inbound address, it shows however many btc
18:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2014#555879
18:58 ThickAsThieves cmon
18:58 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
18:58 mircea_popescu what!
18:58 ThickAsThieves you say why not be on a list of top holders, show the shitheads the world is yours
18:59 ThickAsThieves well, show us
18:59 ThickAsThieves if not, why not?
18:59 mircea_popescu ...
18:59 Neil mircea_popescu: You mix wallets right? Inbound on bitbet could be outbound on mpex and vice versa.
18:59 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Aren't his MPOE holdings largely public?
18:59 mircea_popescu Neil notrly.
18:59 Neil BingoBoingo: MPOE holdings aren't BTC.
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 1.66964413 BTC to 21`469 shares, 7777 satoshi per share
18:59 pizzaman1337 BingoBoingo: but MPOE holdings are only "paper" BTC, not actual btc
18:59 ThickAsThieves he makes no concrete statement as to what belongs to what
19:00 ThickAsThieves an mpex addy could be for the members
19:00 mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 so that substantially changes anything ?
19:00 ThickAsThieves no one really knows how many btc mp has or claims to have
19:00 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.msg3449849#msg3449849
19:00 ThickAsThieves which was exactly the topic
19:00 ozbot Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
19:00 mircea_popescu there, how bad is that.
19:00 pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: yeah, because in practice it can't all be turned into real btc at market rates
19:00 Neil mircea_popescu: Coz you spent a huge output for the big payout on bitbet; it wasn't an input to anything plausible on bitbet in its history. So bitbet's wallet it definitely being mixed with something else - yours or mpoe's or ...
19:00 ThickAsThieves that i dont want anyone to know what i have in that context
19:01 mircea_popescu Neil bitbet had 500+ bets iirc. how much was this ?
19:01 Neil 1800
19:01 ThickAsThieves the context being a list of wallet addresses
19:01 ThickAsThieves not a forum post of market caps
19:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i think you prolly took an angle of what i said and run off with it.
19:02 mircea_popescu ran*
19:02 ThickAsThieves if that;s how you wanna play it
19:02 ThickAsThieves i'm not gonna beat a dead horse over it
19:02 Neil https://blockchain.info/tx/b94eaf3c16ad7dd35ea3b9e11a70cf9172adf4898c9b4db90761ef4ba327e777
19:02 ThickAsThieves just funny
19:02 mircea_popescu i wasn't even aware im playin.
19:02 Neil 1868 from a single addy
19:02 ozbot Bitcoin Transaction b94eaf3c16ad7dd35ea3b9e11a70cf9172adf4898c9b4db90761ef4ba327e777
19:02 ThickAsThieves it's more fun to me to not know anyway
19:03 ThickAsThieves knowing doesnt really matter, to me at least
19:03 mircea_popescu Neil that's just a function of how the payouts on large bets work.
19:03 ThickAsThieves i believe you have plenty
19:03 mircea_popescu this was the diff bet no ?
19:03 Neil mircea_popescu: Meaning what exactly?
19:04 Neil Doesn't seem to me that came from people betting on bitbet; that's my only point.
19:04 mircea_popescu https://blockchain.info/address/1PQgp6UkeeqGvU6TSseYs2nR28xQmfkFQN
19:04 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1PQgp6UkeeqGvU6TSseYs2nR28xQmfkFQN
19:04 mircea_popescu that address often disburses payouts. it's like an outbound gateway
19:06 Neil One of the inputs to that address used for the payout was 4368 BTC; which is like 40% of bitbet volume at that time...
19:06 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves anyway, it wasn't some sort of "omg you're a bad person", it was more of a "why the fuck would you be shy of the world. fuck em."
19:07 mircea_popescu Neil yeah bitbet got seeded originally, so as to build this situation it enjoys today where it has a large pool.
19:07 ThickAsThieves i think i came off more defensive than i actually am
19:07 mircea_popescu mtgox runs on 1/4 of deposits, bitbet runs on 4x. fractional reserve ftw.
19:07 ThickAsThieves you asked why be shy, i said why, you said yeah but, then i asked well why are you shy?
19:08 mircea_popescu seems kinda nutty to ask me why i'm shy dunnit ?
19:08 mircea_popescu because im too over the top as is.
19:08 ThickAsThieves not sure what that means
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00608 = 0.1763 BTC [-]
19:09 mircea_popescu well it's good enough, i'll use this as a convenient reference to show that at least one person in zee werld thinks im shy.
19:09 ThickAsThieves i mean i know you do your part to spank the idiots and seize your day
19:09 ThickAsThieves but that doesnt exactly explain why me not showing addresses is questionable
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.00607997 = 0.529 BTC [-] {2}
19:10 ThickAsThieves nor why you dont either
19:10 mircea_popescu the exact implementation is left as an exercise to the reader
19:11 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> while i'm unlikely in the top 500, i wouldnt want to be known as such << this is the line that sparked the discussion
19:11 ThickAsThieves yes
19:11 mircea_popescu it's not some sort of technical explanation of address showing.
19:11 mircea_popescu it's just a general point about being known as such.
19:11 ThickAsThieves and i further qualified it
19:11 ThickAsThieves with not wanting to be a target
19:11 mircea_popescu fuck em.
19:11 ThickAsThieves sure
19:11 mircea_popescu no but i mean literally.
19:12 ThickAsThieves but why arent you fucking them
19:12 mircea_popescu ...
19:12 ThickAsThieves with your address
19:12 ThickAsThieves no matter how we cut it, a reason can be distilled
19:12 mircea_popescu why am i not fucking them in particular X manner you'd prefer ? because i'm me.
19:12 mircea_popescu what of it.
19:12 ThickAsThieves one which you are dancing around
19:12 ThickAsThieves i'm only asking because i suspect your reasons arent much different than mine
19:12 ThickAsThieves if at all
19:13 mircea_popescu like how ?
19:13 ThickAsThieves like you;'d prefer people not know exactly how much coin you have and what addy you keep it in
19:13 ThickAsThieves if it's even one
19:14 mircea_popescu these are reasons ?
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.041 = 1.681 BTC [+]
19:14 ThickAsThieves no they are motivations
19:14 ThickAsThieves to not share the info
19:16 ThickAsThieves we're just dancing anyway, i don't see any other way to interpret this
19:16 pizzaman1337 flirting
19:17 mircea_popescu weird. wild.
19:17 ThickAsThieves whether i am perfectly articulating my case, or presenting it in the exact way to get a straight answer, you do know what I am saying
19:18 mircea_popescu nowai. srsly ?
19:18 ThickAsThieves if i am remotely accurate in my estimation of your intelligence, yes
19:19 ThickAsThieves i guess it does usually take a lot of kicking and screaming on the occassions you do give in though... so maybe i'm wring
19:19 ThickAsThieves wrong*
19:19 mircea_popescu tbh what i perceive is the matter here is that you live in an environment where poor black dudes stare you down as a daily routine, and i just said "da fuck is this, you stare THEM down mothefucker! they're poor, not you" which created a little disonance
19:20 ThickAsThieves :/
19:20 mdwu what is the difference between a poor and rich person besides their net worth?
19:20 ThickAsThieves even if that's what it boiled down to
19:21 ThickAsThieves the reason the conversation continued,
19:21 mircea_popescu mdwu that the poor person likely sucks.
19:21 ThickAsThieves is searching for why your reasons for hiding are different
19:21 mircea_popescu that hiding'd be entirely of your projection.
19:22 ThickAsThieves then why is it you do not display your coins
19:22 ThickAsThieves this is not a projection on my part
19:22 ThickAsThieves it's what I observe
19:23 mircea_popescu but to some degree i do.
19:23 pizzaman1337 this is just a striptease to see MP's bitcoin dick. We can't be impressed without a little build-up.
19:23 ThickAsThieves maybe i'm just ignorant and everyone knows your addies but me, and youre just fucking with me
19:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know the mpex addy, neh ?
19:23 mircea_popescu i just made a comment re the bitbet addies, you can tally those up, they're published
19:23 ThickAsThieves ive dug up some in the past
19:24 mircea_popescu its in the faq innit ?
19:24 ThickAsThieves i dont believe there is a known addy that is definitively your coins
19:24 ThickAsThieves just company ones
19:24 ThickAsThieves which i assume also represent user funds
19:24 asciilifeform what useful thing could one hope to achieve by dropping pants and publicly displaying bitcock?
19:25 ThickAsThieves this was my initial question as well
19:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the usual purpose one obtains doing that lol.
19:25 mircea_popescu fucking something or the other
19:25 asciilifeform seems like a proposition that's purely lose-lose, like sticking hand in a bear trap.
19:25 ThickAsThieves the answer i got was essentially to put idiots in their place
19:25 asciilifeform you might do it to demonstrate an indestructible robotic prosthesis, but otherwise it's pointless
19:26 mircea_popescu we weren't actually discussing that, i dun think.
19:26 mircea_popescu somehow the entire show me your cock thing got shoehorn into a slightly different discusison
19:26 mircea_popescu for w/e reason.
19:26 ThickAsThieves like i said before, youve got a reason for not publishing your personal wealth, if you dont want to say the reason, that's fine
19:26 ThickAsThieves but just say that
19:26 * asciilifeform goes back to tweaking PLL clock on cardano
19:27 ThickAsThieves dont make it like you are and arent at the same time
19:27 mircea_popescu going back to the forum link in question... it's reasonably published
19:28 mdwu MP: will you turn mpex options back on at some point? or is it gone for good?
19:28 mircea_popescu mdwu once there's a usable, meaningful spot yeah
19:29 mdwu did you turn it off because it was too much hassle to hedge the big short order last money?
19:29 * ThickAsThieves gives up.
19:29 mircea_popescu didja read the feb report ?
19:29 mdwu last month*
19:29 mdwu yeah
19:29 Duffer1 so.. i'm on the phone with Lilliput now should i cancel the gang or not?
19:29 mircea_popescu mdwu well that's about all that's been said on the topic.
19:30 mircea_popescu Duffer1 is that like the island next to blehFU ?
19:30 Duffer1 yea
19:31 Duffer1 perhaps a bit too obscure to be funny :P
19:34 mircea_popescu what was Apocalyptic's exchange, bt-x ?
19:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00082029 = 11.5661 BTC [+]
19:34 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: x-bt.com
19:34 mircea_popescu http://bt-c.com/
19:34 ozbot BT Company
19:34 mircea_popescu check out the lamborghini textiles
19:35 asciilifeform s/lamb/trabamb
19:36 mircea_popescu ironically these may be the genuine article.
19:36 mircea_popescu ie, actual lohn provider with a dumbass website.
~ 18 minutes ~
19:54 bitcoinpete "Exotic dancers are flocking here from as far away as Russia for the same reason as everyone else - to make their fortune in a place known as Kuwait on the Prairie."
19:55 bitcoinpete http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25983917
19:55 ozbot BBC News - North Dakota oil boom: American Dream on ice
19:55 bitcoinpete "Strippers can earn $2,500 (£1,500) per shift here, says a bouncer."
19:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15870 @ 0.00081992 = 13.0121 BTC [-] {2}
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1623 @ 0.00012875 = 0.209 BTC [-] {9}
20:00 mircea_popescu strippers can earn a coupla k's per shift anywhere, wtf.
20:03 Diablo-D3 yeah thats like
20:03 Diablo-D3 half what a good stripper can do in nyc
20:03 Diablo-D3 a third what a good stripper in LA can do
20:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0039 = 0.2145 BTC [-] {3}
20:04 bitcoinpete The difference: competition
20:05 Diablo-D3 yeah, theres way more of it in nyc and la
20:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.093181 = 0.3727 BTC [+]
20:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0062381 = 0.1185 BTC [-]
20:12 nubbins` twist: mp has no personal wealth and pays his harem w/ mpoe stock
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00081889 = 16.0093 BTC [-]
20:13 nubbins` ^ that was one of 'em buying some shoes
20:13 benkay nice shoes.
20:14 nubbins` well more than one pair obv
20:14 nubbins` save on shipping, y'know?
20:16 herbijudlestoids hullo
20:16 herbijudlestoids just dropped in to make sure youre all behaving :)
20:16 nubbins` barely
20:16 ThickAsThieves as best we can
20:17 ThickAsThieves nubbins` mp lost all the coinz on gox i guess
20:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00081803 = 17.5876 BTC [-] {2}
20:17 nubbins` lel
20:18 mircea_popescu 16 btc gets you some cool shoes
20:18 mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids how goes ?
20:18 ThickAsThieves http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/12/oklahoma-fox-station-removes-evolution-from-cosmos-by-cutting-only-15-seconds/
20:18 ozbot Oklahoma Fox station removes evolution from ‘Cosmos’ by cutting only 15 seconds | The Raw Sto
20:20 asciilifeform ;;ticker --ask --currency USD
20:20 gribble 633.99
20:21 asciilifeform ;;calc 633.99 * 16.0093
20:21 gribble 10149.736107
20:22 asciilifeform ;;calc 10149.736107 / 6.53
20:22 gribble 1554.32405926
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [+]
20:23 asciilifeform ;;calc 10149.736107 / 682.24
20:23 gribble 14.8770756728
20:24 asciilifeform ok, enough for a silver toilet.
20:24 ThickAsThieves http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Christian-Louboutin-Snakilta-Spiked-Red-Sole-Ankle-Boot-Black-Matte-Shoes/prod162100114_cat39620738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat39620738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod162100114&cmCat=product
20:24 ozbot Request Rejected
20:24 asciilifeform or a public room full of copper ones...
20:24 mircea_popescu lolwut
20:24 nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/208sss/say_hello_to_2014_bitcointalk_i_created/
20:24 ozbot Say Hello to 2014, Bitcointalk. I created Bitcointa.lk, a real alternative to Bitcointalk.org. 5 mil
20:24 nubbins` smh
20:24 ThickAsThieves jpcham made it i think
20:24 nubbins` not sure why
20:25 ThickAsThieves me either
20:25 nubbins` heh.
20:25 nubbins` well then!
20:25 ThickAsThieves i think he wanted to solve the content problem
20:25 ThickAsThieves by copying all of it
20:25 ThickAsThieves but feels almost more hollow for it
20:25 nubbins` maybe he can add content from goat's private forum too
20:26 cazalla default xenforo.. impressive
20:27 * nubbins` nods
20:29 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/4s70vPm.jpg
20:29 benkay lawlz
20:29 herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: yea good thx. big business coming in now
20:30 mircea_popescu cool./
20:30 benkay jcpham mirror the goatforum too
20:30 herbijudlestoids about to deploy a very very very large IaaS cloud
20:30 herbijudlestoids how about yall
20:33 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4odIPqfh6I
20:33 ozbot Big Business - 'Here Come The Waterworks' (Full Album HD) - YouTube
20:33 nubbins` two of these guys are in the melvins
20:33 nubbins` don't bother clicking ;(
20:33 herbijudlestoids i cant wait to be rich, so i can finally get a seat on mpex
20:34 nubbins` heh
20:34 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/gitagovinda/statuses/443741163682418688
20:34 ozbot Twitter / gitagovinda: .@coreypein wants to post this ...
20:34 mircea_popescu wont be long nao
20:34 BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: Have you considered getting back into ATC trading?
20:35 nubbins` hahah
20:35 nubbins` bingo, :0
20:35 BingoBoingo Spread's gotten closer https://x-bt.com/markets/atcbtc
20:36 herbijudlestoids BingoBoingo: no time for such shenanigans
20:36 nubbins` "The Brighton-based Argus took a question from a reader obsessed with the fragile truce between man and caprine, and somehow misattributed it to Richard Robinson, the director of the Brighton Science Festival."
20:36 herbijudlestoids i have been busy busy
20:36 nubbins` Robinson's comment on the mixup:
20:36 nubbins` "I'm afraid I cannot address your problem. I have much more important things to think about just now: sea urchins, hordes of them, with their evil poisoned spines, there in the sea, just out of view, waiting… waiting…"
20:36 BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: If there isn't time for shennanigans, there isn't time at all
20:36 herbijudlestoids there isnt time lol!
20:36 herbijudlestoids flat chat
20:36 herbijudlestoids but i missed you guys :D
20:37 BingoBoingo When I have my uranium mines I will fill them with the shennanigan-less
20:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58521002 BTC [-]
20:37 nubbins` was in a band once called Goat, the Provider
20:37 BingoBoingo If uranium is even what I have mined. Maybe I'll just have lead mines or something
20:38 Diablo-D3 I want a hot woman mine
20:38 nubbins` if you lead, i'll follow
20:38 herbijudlestoids anyway, i need to get some breakfast in me and crack on with my worx.
20:38 herbijudlestoids be good, hopefully see yas soon :)
20:39 nubbins` getting some nice submissions for our next zine
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00081556 = 9.5421 BTC [-]
20:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [+]
20:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20277 @ 0.00081537 = 16.5333 BTC [-]
20:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3427 @ 0.003716 = 12.7347 BTC [-] {30}
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 16074 @ 0.00317261 = 50.9965 BTC [-] {62}
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0062302 = 0.1246 BTC [-] {2}
21:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299999 = 0.3 BTC [-]
21:10 mircea_popescu o look at that, under par
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59001003 BTC [+]
21:16 bitcoinpete tiger?
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.00299999 = 9 BTC [-] {2}
21:17 nubbins` 19btc ask wall at par
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1200 @ 0.003 = 3.6 BTC [+]
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1188 @ 0.003 = 3.564 BTC [+] {2}
21:19 nubbins` coin funds finally released from escrow
21:19 * nubbins` claps
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00081512 = 13.7755 BTC [-] {2}
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4200 @ 0.003 = 12.6 BTC [+]
21:20 bitcoinpete S.MPOE seems to be all over the place of late.
21:20 bitcoinpete Is it always this volatile?
21:21 mircea_popescu was a lot more tepid prior to feb statement.
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.003 = 0.156 BTC [+] {2}
21:21 bitcoinpete mmm still, a hell of a wallet service
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.003 = 0.666 BTC [+] {2}
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+]
21:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48050 @ 0.0008158 = 39.1992 BTC [+] {2}
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00591002 = 0.2896 BTC [-]
21:27 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/rachel-canning-u-s-student-who-sued-parents-for-support-returns-home-1.2570514
21:27 ozbot Rachel Canning, U.S. student who sued parents for support, returns home - World - CBC News
21:27 nubbins` my sides
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 453 @ 0.003 = 1.359 BTC [+]
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.58487999 = 2.9244 BTC [-] {5}
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5823 = 1.1646 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58112 = 1.7434 BTC [-]
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.005911 = 0.6384 BTC [-] {2}
21:44 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/on-making-bitcoin-accessible-or-not/
21:44 ozbot On Making Bitcoin Accessible. Or Not. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
21:45 bitcoinpete Newest blog post
21:45 bitcoinpete Anchored by Buffet's 1983 letter to shareholders
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 93 @ 0.00623006 = 0.5794 BTC [-] {4}
21:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00081402 = 40.2126 BTC [-] {3}
21:56 mircea_popescu not a bad anchor
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.000812 = 11.8958 BTC [-]
22:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 131 @ 0.00349999 = 0.4585 BTC [+] {2}
22:14 thestringpuller ls
22:14 thestringpuller oops
22:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17309 @ 0.00081611 = 14.126 BTC [+]
22:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2803 @ 0.00081712 = 2.2904 BTC [+]
22:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.0035 = 0.637 BTC [+] {3}
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16797 @ 0.0008184 = 13.7467 BTC [+] {2}
22:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14553 @ 0.000819 = 11.9189 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.60886534 = 3.0443 BTC [+] {5}
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61699495 = 2.468 BTC [+] {3}
22:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.61816663 = 3.709 BTC [+] {3}
22:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.61951235 = 17.3463 BTC [+] {5}
22:35 KRS1 .bait
22:35 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/df0567c5ebf94a4f1db713c26e9c00ab/tumblr_mi6zs1zHVq1qz9pzzo1_1280.jpg
22:35 KRS1 .bait
22:35 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/3eaef9209e0a4791b2bace7769a3b895/tumblr_mhs703VuFQ1qk50iuo1_1280.jpg
22:37 BingoBoingo .d
22:37 ozbot 4.250 billion | Next Diff in 2014 blocks | Estimated Change: -14.4080% in 15d 23h 56m 54s
22:38 MisterE who wants some rare earth?
22:38 MisterE oops
22:38 MisterE disregard
22:42 BingoBoingo MisterE: Which one in particular?
22:43 MisterE magnetic kind?
22:43 MisterE is there another?
22:43 MisterE maybe I should wiki at lest
22:43 MisterE before brokering lol
22:43 BingoBoingo Well, if you were selling the other kind, I would suggest Bitcoin might not be mature enough for that yet...
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00359 = 0.3518 BTC [+]
22:44 MisterE whats the other kind do?
22:45 MisterE US needs to find more of this stuff
22:45 MisterE like, yesterday
22:47 BingoBoingo MisterE: The other stuff is the transuranic stuff...
22:47 BingoBoingo Prolly 5-10 years before Bitcoin is mature enough for it at least, maybe 20
22:48 MisterE hgher atomic number than uranium?
22:48 MisterE sounds like a regulation hassle
22:48 BingoBoingo like I suggested, BTC prolly not ready yet
22:50 BingoBoingo Especially when Ver is tripping balls and thinking he is Dr. Richard Kimble
22:50 mod6 haha
22:52 BingoBoingo When Ver can protect his Island with a fleet of Hind Hella Choppas then we can talk transuranic
22:52 MisterE BingoBoingo: do I know you from another tracker?
22:52 MisterE and whois Ver?
22:52 BingoBoingo MisterE: Tracker?
22:52 MisterE yea
22:52 MisterE WHat or BTN?
22:52 MisterE bit torrent tracker
22:53 BingoBoingo MisterE: I do this chan, was on CoinChat before TF went scam, and I blog at http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/
22:53 MisterE ahh ok
22:53 MisterE cool url
22:53 BingoBoingo MisterE: Someone else with this nick is some HS aged gamer kid
22:53 BingoBoingo I dun torrent.
22:53 MisterE yea think I have met them ;/
22:53 MisterE dont torrent?
22:53 MisterE wow
22:54 BingoBoingo Eh, the streaming sites provide the content without putting me in a position to be distributing it. I dun think the risk reward for torrenting the wrong this is a good value proposition in my jurisdiction.
22:55 MisterE oh so you stream
22:55 BingoBoingo I watch streaming shit. If stuff isn't on Hulu I'll watch it somewhere else.
22:55 BingoBoingo It's how I keep up with Archer.
22:55 MisterE I have a site for you
22:56 artifexd And if it isn't available for streaming, just about everything available via torrent is available via nntp
22:56 BingoBoingo I dunno, you kind of sound like 5-0
22:59 nubbins` heh
22:59 nubbins` ACAB
23:00 MisterE finally found it BingoBoingo http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/11/popcorn-time-is-like-netflix-for-pirated-content/?ncid=rss
23:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38379 @ 0.00081071 = 31.1142 BTC [-] {3}
23:01 BingoBoingo MisterE: I'd want to know more about how their site and player are architected, but that could just easily be some podunk law firm fishing for ip's to gather for one of those mass John Doe suits.
23:02 BingoBoingo Shady, foreign, and streaming is the way to be
23:02 MisterE they dont do those anymore
23:02 MisterE not very good RPR
23:02 MisterE PR*
23:02 BingoBoingo No, they don't do some kinds of those in some jurisdictions
23:02 MisterE now they go after you thru your isp
23:02 BingoBoingo Well, if I am my own ISP that would suck wouldn't it...
23:03 asciilifeform phun phact. only consumer ISPs are part of the 'n strikes' pact.
23:04 MisterE haha so it's all about going after the little guy
23:04 MisterE just like drm is about fucking legit buyers
23:04 asciilifeform rent a $20 box in some godforsaken rack, bounce packets off that.
23:04 MisterE stupid industry
23:04 MisterE slingbox
23:05 MisterE I prefer a .mp4 file I can play at my convenience
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.040082 = 0.2004 BTC [-] {3}
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00604998 = 0.127 BTC [+] {3}
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5930147 = 1.779 BTC [-] {3}
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.593008 BTC [-]
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23:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.003315 = 0.4542 BTC [-] {2}
23:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.003315 = 0.1227 BTC [-]
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