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00:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
00:08	thestringpuller	dub that album RUUUUUULES
00:08	Diablo-D3	dub: why, because you refuse to do what you're supposed to?
00:09	thestringpuller	best daft punk album yet
00:09	thestringpuller	yea dub
00:09	thestringpuller	play less wub wub
00:09	thestringpuller	more dub dub dub
00:09	thestringpuller	808's kickin
00:09	thestringpuller	kenwoond up high
00:09	dub	lets sample the same guitar riff and use it in every track!
00:10	Diablo-D3	the best track is giorgio
00:10	dub	it took like 8 years to make an album of the same song over and over
00:11	dub	and shitheels will lap it up like a bunch of apple users
00:11	Diablo-D3	dub: no, that'd be tron legacy ;)
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00:27	KRS1	I'M THE TR-808
00:35	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.063 = 0.252 BTC [+]
00:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36 BTC [-]
00:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 52 @ 0.30290722 = 15.7512 BTC [-] {14}
00:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.21133473 = 1.268 BTC [-] {2}
00:50	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 634 @ 0.00046106 = 0.2923 BTC [-] {2}
00:51	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2306 @ 0.00082543 = 1.9034 BTC [+]
01:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
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01:29	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05001 = 1.0002 BTC [-] {2}
01:32	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}
01:39	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5345 @ 0.00082412 = 4.4049 BTC [-]
01:51	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 599 @ 0.00082412 = 0.4936 BTC [-]
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02:10	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 223 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2443 BTC [+]
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02:37	zacm	buttercoin ftw
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04:01	mircea_popescu	nice job with the stats kakobrekla
04:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.637 = 1.274 BTC [+] {2}
04:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36907559 = 0.7382 BTC [+] {2}
04:02	mircea_popescu	Jere_Jones it's mostly a mix of noobs and idiots tbh.
04:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00267 = 0.3391 BTC [-]
04:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
04:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.155 = 0.62 BTC [-]
04:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1095 BTC [+]
04:13	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
04:16	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 461 @ 0.00022855 = 0.1054 BTC [+]
04:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00022879 = 2.2879 BTC [+]
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04:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008256 = 4.128 BTC [+]
04:37	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00082409 = 1.0713 BTC [-]
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05:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [-]
05:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000229 = 0.229 BTC [+]
05:13	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00268751 = 0.7471 BTC [+] {2}
05:13	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.61716666 = 3.703 BTC [-] {3}
05:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.61 = 10.37 BTC [-]
05:16	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63975 = 1.2795 BTC [+] {2}
05:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 147 @ 0.00109548 = 0.161 BTC [+]
05:29	bidji	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322656.0
05:29	ozbot	[OFFICIAL] mcxNOW Final Investment Round. 6700BTC already invested
05:29	bidji	mcxNOW IPO is now open to the public
05:33	mircea_popescu	so go to -otc
05:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1252 BTC [+] {2}
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06:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00568897 = 0.4153 BTC [+] {2}
06:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0056889 = 0.1138 BTC [-]
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07:22	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00082482 = 2.6394 BTC [+] {2}
07:22	KRS1	Hello.
07:22	zacm	mcxnow free feeshares/
07:23	KRS1	last i heard that exchange was scamming people
07:25	kleeck	KRS1, I get the feeling that you heard that in this channel, with no proof to back the claim. Just a hunch. ;)
07:27	zacm	lol
07:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 191 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2092 BTC [+]
07:27	KRS1	kleeck: its been said for quite a while now
07:27	KRS1	6 mo or more maybe
07:27	kleeck	And has anyone given examples and proof?
07:27	zacm	activemining should hire that exchange's programmers to handle the trading of shares
07:27	KRS1	read what I said: "last I heard"
07:27	kleeck	The only thing I've heard is, "It's a ponzi"
07:28	kleeck	But when I looked into it, it wasn't.
07:28	KRS1	i didnt look into it
07:29	KRS1	I have witnessed several altcoin pumps go through that exchange
07:30	zacm	btc-e doesn't have any pumps
07:30	zacm	i hear everyone in the trollbox has a phd too
07:33	skinnkavaj	I bet pankkake is invested in ActM
07:34	pankkake	lol
07:34	zacm	actm would be decent if it wasn't involved with bitfondler
07:34	skinnkavaj	Doubled by litecoin holdings yesterday pankkake
07:34	zacm	no way
07:34	zacm	impossible
07:34	zacm	how?!
07:35	skinnkavaj	You know the Litecoin securities exchange
07:35	skinnkavaj	www.litecoininvest.com
07:35	kleeck	.d
07:35	ozbot	390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 849 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.1316% in 4d 6h 52m 50s
07:35	pankkake	activemining has more problems than that, right from the start
07:36	zacm	litecoininvest is new btct.co ?
07:36	skinnkavaj	LTC/USD going up in value from 1st of Nov as predicted.
07:37	zacm	litey is an amazing altcoin
07:37	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
07:37	zacm	i won't touch the worldcoin but i like litey
07:37	skinnkavaj	Who would touch any other altcoin other than BTC/LTC
07:37	skinnkavaj	The third coin in the BTC/LTC family
07:37	skinnkavaj	Is not yet decided
07:38	zacm	probably xpm
07:38	zacm	even though it sucks with it's unlimitedness
07:38	pankkake	the real issue is that it is very cheap to 51% attack
07:39	kakobrekla	i wonder why noone foreked it yet
07:39	kakobrekla	with a limited coin supply
07:39	kakobrekla	forked*
07:39	pankkake	meh. if you look at what happened to ppcoin, it's now below bitcoin's inflation, or close
07:39	kakobrekla	i wasnt following ppcoin
07:39	kakobrekla	what happend there
07:40	skinnkavaj	For LTC updates follow https://twitter.com/skinnkavaj
07:40	pankkake	it's the same reward system: the reward goes down when difficulty goes up
07:41	pankkake	well, now that I think of it, we're not going to see primecoin asics
07:41	pankkake	so the inflation is going to be high for a long time
07:42	kakobrekla	yep
07:42	pankkake	actually, I think its price is high because noobs aren't able to mine it
07:42	zacm	xpm would be way better with a cap
07:42	kleeck	I've stepped into a comedy, right? http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-orders-nsa-to-stop-spying-on-the-world-bank-imf-2013-10
07:43	zacm	lol nice
07:43	zacm	doesn't the world bank need spying
07:43	kleeck	Should Obama be the one leading that charge?
07:43	zacm	it will be his greatest legacy yet!
07:43	jurov	kleeck you were *born* into a comedy
07:44	kleeck	Truly.
07:44	kleeck	I think I'm in the wrong country.
07:44	jurov	there's no right country
07:44	kleeck	But the grass is always greener, right?
07:44	pankkake	I don't think there is a right one. maybe somalia
07:44	kleeck	lol
07:44	kleeck	Yarrr!
07:45	kleeck	I think there are better.
07:45	kleeck	For my mentality/political persuasion.
07:45	kleeck	Maybe Switzerland.
07:47	pankkake	indeed, switzerland is great. moreover, many things are local there (like taxes)
07:47	pankkake	well in the USA too
07:48	pankkake	skinnkavaj: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322750.0
07:48	pankkake	> Bear minimum funding requirements
07:48	pankkake	> Bear
07:49	kakobrekla	whats the Bull minimum?
07:49	pankkake	I am imagining an angry bear you have to calm with bitcoins
07:57	KRS1	SOMALIA IS LOVERS!@$%@^#$%&
08:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:08	pankkake	"I LOST EVERY PENCE ON YOUR PROJECT!"
08:08	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082409 = 3.1315 BTC [-]
08:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 380 @ 0.000265 = 0.1007 BTC [-]
08:12	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Invest in LTC ASICS bro you never know when you need a pair of boots https://www.ltcasics.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=62
08:12	pankkake	old joke is old
08:13	pankkake	they sell silver but not gold, that currency is useless!
08:13	skinnkavaj	Troll combat specialist XD
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08:30	assbot	[MPEX] [S.NSA] 450 @ 0.00023133 = 0.1041 BTC [+] {2}
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09:26	assbot	[MPEX] [S.NSA] 2200 @ 0.00017591 = 0.387 BTC [-]
09:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00568887 = 0.5746 BTC [+] {3}
09:27	Namworld	Wasn't burnside going to close btct.co completly on the 1st ._.
09:30	pankkake	"Approximately October 31"
09:31	pankkake	though he said after that he planned to give back as much balances as possible, might be the reason it's still up
09:32	nubbins`	hi
09:35	Namworld	Well he should have addresses. For most people anyway
09:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3594 @ 0.00082576 = 2.9678 BTC [+]
09:37	nubbins`	beer shits
09:44	zacm	BTCaTastrophe.co
09:45	zacm	is bitfondler better? the fact that a letter was sent by sec and kept secret from people implies no
09:45	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
09:47	truffles	but everyone keeps secrets
09:47	nubbins`	dark, terrible secrets
09:48	Namworld	There was a letter?
09:48	truffles	darker the better rite
09:50	pankkake	I wouldn't trust bitfunder with anything, regardless of the SEC
09:52	Namworld	Well I'm looking to borrow BTC in slices of 25 BTC. Anyone interested? I have a longstanding history as a borrower.
09:52	truffles	that doesnt sound good
09:52	truffles	"longstanding history as a borrower"
09:53	truffles	in finance thats all that matters nm
09:56	truffles	pizza or chinese food tough call
09:57	Namworld	Pizza
09:57	abracadabra	mexican
09:57	Namworld	Indian
09:57	truffles	im not trying to get fat
09:57	abracadabra	oh?
09:57	abracadabra	then eat rice cakes
09:58	truffles	same comment lol
09:58	truffles	doesnt it make u binge
09:58	zacm	Namworld: yeah Ken from ActiveMining mentioned a letter to bitfunder from SEC a few days ago. probably just the tip of the iceberg lol. wonder what all the ids being requested will be used for later.
09:59	Namworld	Oh... but from what I read, it seems SEC was requesting info specifically about Ken
09:59	Namworld	Although they might be asking about other issuers too
09:59	truffles	its never just 1
09:59	truffles	gl with that guys
10:00	truffles	pizza sounds good
10:00	nubbins`	tastes good too
10:01	truffles	make own or buy?
10:01	nubbins`	make yr own
10:01	nubbins`	flatbread crust, bbq sauce, chicken, red onion, bacon, fresh mushrooms, cheddar
10:01	truffles	mushrooms gross
10:01	nubbins`	grow up
10:01	truffles	im turning 36 soon sure
10:02	topace	"mushrooms gross" from the guys who's name is "truffles"
10:02	topace	lol
10:02	nubbins`	time to start eating your mushrooms!
10:02	nubbins`	^
10:02	nubbins`	topace, who knows, maybe he owns pigs
10:02	truffles	mushrooms are in truffles?
10:02	nubbins`	nah
10:03	nubbins`	still fungus tho
10:03	topace	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truffle
10:03	truffles	some1 gifted me some delicious truffles from the uk
10:03	Namworld	A truffle is a mushroom considered a delicacy. Nothing to do with a chocolate truffle tho. Although some chocolate truffles contain truffle liquor.
10:04	truffles	forgot to save the box : (
10:04	topace	funny you dont even know what your own name means
10:04	nubbins`	truffles look rotten, i'd be curious to try one
10:04	truffles	theyre not all yum
10:05	truffles	topace truffles could mean many things though
10:05	ThickAsThieves	i havent had a truffle but ive had truffle oil and truffle salt
10:05	ThickAsThieves	a lot like garlic
10:05	nubbins`	hmm
10:06	ThickAsThieves	white truffle at least
10:06	truffles	white anything is usually subpar
10:06	nubbins`	yeah, i watched a cooking show once where they had to make a dish with truffles
10:06	ThickAsThieves	white tea is higher in caffeine
10:06	nubbins`	all these top chefs were losing their minds that they were being given the honor of cooking like 2 whole truffles
10:06	ThickAsThieves	hehe
10:07	nubbins`	white power is higher in genetic defects
10:07	truffles	powder?
10:08	nubbins`	power
10:08	nubbins`	http://www.triblocal.com/wilmette-kenilworth/files/2010/12/patricklangballe.jpg
10:08	truffles	we're all human
10:08	truffles	well maybe not all of us
10:08	nubbins`	that may be a friedcat tattoo on his temple
10:10	truffles	68? looks like a paint job gone bad
10:11	Namworld	[10:06] <truffles> white anything is usually subpar
10:11	Namworld	Well not with truffles
10:11	truffles	if u think so
10:11	truffles	i just dont like white chocolate
10:12	Namworld	I thought you were answering to TaT which mentioned the other kind of truffles
10:13	nubbins`	white light is pretty swell, too
10:13	nubbins`	nice and balanced
10:16	truffles	balanced..
10:18	nubbins`	yes, all 3 primary colors in equal amounts
10:19	truffles	the more u know
10:20	ThickAsThieves	white chocolate isnt even chocolate
10:20	ThickAsThieves	white light is not 3 colors
10:20	ThickAsThieves	it's all colors
10:20	truffles	there is so much to read on this
10:21	truffles	so im gonna defer to those in the know
10:22	nubbins`	YES! purolator just showed up with a ton of paper for me
10:22	nubbins`	tat, you got me on a technicality
10:23	nubbins`	worth noting that every color in a rainbow is some combination of the 3 primaries ;)
10:23	truffles	"White is the blending of all colors"
10:23	ThickAsThieves	not quite true
10:23	truffles	so im gonna end with that
10:23	ThickAsThieves	the every color being 3 primaries
10:24	nubbins`	every color that humans can see
10:24	ThickAsThieves	you can use 3 colors to make many colors
10:24	ThickAsThieves	doesnt even have to be primary colors
10:24	ThickAsThieves	RGB for example
10:24	nubbins`	green being a mix of two primaries, yellow and blue
10:24	ThickAsThieves	but you cant make every color with only 3 colors, it now depends on how you define "color"
10:25	truffles	nubbins` get ur facts right so i can memorize it properly!
10:25	ThickAsThieves	any limitation of color will create a gamut
10:25	ThickAsThieves	and now luminosity comes into play
10:25	nubbins`	and if you don't limit it, you've got the full EM spectrum
10:25	truffles	is black a color?
10:25	nubbins`	but i don't think anyone is going to call gamma rays a color
10:25	ThickAsThieves	black is abesence of color
10:25	nubbins`	so, as humans, we put sensible limits on things
10:25	ThickAsThieves	although most things arent truly black
10:26	ThickAsThieves	other than a black hole
10:26	truffles	haha
10:26	ThickAsThieves	black would not reflect any light
10:26	ThickAsThieves	but you can still see black clothes
10:26	ThickAsThieves	so they arent really black black
10:26	truffles	absence of light they said
10:26	nubbins`	blackesque
10:27	truffles	so if we can run with this theory here
10:27	nubbins`	anyway, you're correct in that there are plenty of colors that can't be replicated with the 3 primaries
10:27	nubbins`	like neons
10:27	nubbins`	fluorescents
10:27	truffles	black was the original then came the white and other combinations
10:27	nubbins`	etc
10:28	ThickAsThieves	yeah this is a tricky concept for people when comparing colors on their monitor to prints
10:28	ThickAsThieves	most dont understand how luminosity affects color
10:28	nubbins`	nod
10:28	ThickAsThieves	if a color is illuminated, it is not gonna print emitting light
10:29	ThickAsThieves	only reflecting it
10:29	nubbins`	well, just look how confused people get over additive vs. subtractive colors
10:29	ThickAsThieves	flourescent inks are awesome for this reason
10:30	ThickAsThieves	since they kind abridge the gap
10:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 460 @ 0.00109548 = 0.5039 BTC [+]
10:30	truffles	yall gone full on nerd now
10:30	ThickAsThieves	sorry i used to work on industrial large format printers
10:30	ThickAsThieves	color calibration and matching
10:30	ThickAsThieves	etc
10:30	truffles	orly
10:30	truffles	was it fun place?
10:30	nubbins`	i ordered my first pantone mixing kit yesterday, i feel so grown up now
10:31	ThickAsThieves	it was fun other than the company was run by total morons
10:31	truffles	sounds similar to accounting but with printing
10:31	ThickAsThieves	i learned a lot
10:31	nubbins`	shame the swatch books are so goddamn expensive
10:31	ThickAsThieves	got my first manager position there
10:31	nubbins`	i've been toying with the idea of printing obscene designs on black t-shirts with black ink
10:31	truffles	hard worker u r
10:32	ThickAsThieves	i have an old Kid Dynamite shirt that's black on black
10:32	ThickAsThieves	i love it
10:32	truffles	so none will know its there nubbins`?
10:32	nubbins`	would be great with ink that has a bit of shine
10:32	nubbins`	plastisol-based
10:32	nubbins`	water-based would be too dull to show up
10:32	nubbins`	truffles: you'd see it if it catches the light
10:32	ThickAsThieves	yeah mine is screen printed
10:33	ThickAsThieves	has like a tatoo sorta design
10:33	nubbins`	nice
10:33	ThickAsThieves	tattoo*
10:33	nubbins`	although to be fair i've printed obscene things with white ink on black shirts
10:33	ThickAsThieves	hehe
10:33	nubbins`	so i guess really it's more the black-on-black than the obscenity that's got me interested
10:34	nubbins`	https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1186731_649107825122300_1040636811_n.jpg
10:34	nubbins`	improperly cured, but you get the idea
10:35	ThickAsThieves	hehe
10:35	nubbins`	occasionally i find myself out in public with that shirt on. embarassment ensues
10:35	nubbins`	mothers tutting at me
10:35	pankkake	wow
10:36	pankkake	and here I thought tshirthell was offensive
10:36	ThickAsThieves	i cant find my Kid Dynamite shirt on the internet anywhere
10:36	ThickAsThieves	maybe its worth something
10:36	nubbins`	t-shirt hell is just "shocking", great for edgy 17 year olds
10:37	nubbins`	mostly trite
10:37	jcpham	so i have one of these bitcoin neon signs in my office
10:37	jcpham	it's rather large i haven't unboxed it yet
10:37	skinnkavaj	People are hungry for new Litecoininvest
10:37	skinnkavaj	Bought 1250 LTC of shares
10:37	nubbins`	if any of you guys are into music, the guy in the plaid shirt is Thurston Moore from sonic youth
10:37	skinnkavaj	Sold half for 1250 LTC
10:38	skinnkavaj	https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/SKETIS.INVEST
10:38	ozbot	Litecoininvest
10:38	jcpham	i like da mursics
10:38	ThickAsThieves	he looks doffier than normal
10:38	ThickAsThieves	doofier
10:38	nubbins`	heh
10:38	ThickAsThieves	must be getting an old man nose
10:38	nubbins`	guy's 55
10:39	ThickAsThieves	i suppose i probly havent seen a pic of him since 1997 or whatever
10:39	nubbins`	his new band, chelsea light moving, is pretty good
10:39	nubbins`	not on the same level as dick surgery, but ya know
10:39	ThickAsThieves	the guy on the left is someone too?
10:39	nubbins`	guy on the left is my buddy ted
10:39	ThickAsThieves	word
10:39	nubbins`	dick surgery is our band :(
10:39	ThickAsThieves	hehe
10:39	pankkake	haha
10:40	truffles	that guy looked like he wasup to no good
10:40	pankkake	grindcore?
10:40	truffles	shirt guy
10:41	nubbins`	nah
10:41	nubbins`	electro-metal improv
10:41	nubbins`	just noise really
10:41	truffles	nah looking at face
10:41	nubbins`	logo is better than the music
10:41	truffles	lol
10:42	truffles	dont link to me then
10:42	truffles	im gonna be mean ldo
10:43	nubbins`	dicksurgery.ca
10:43	nubbins`	we record our jams
10:43	nubbins`	i recommend "hats off ta skipper" from the latest post
10:43	nubbins`	wordpress player is a bit fidgety though, i had to reload a couple times before it worked
10:44	truffles	will look later
10:44	truffles	like an hr
10:44	nubbins`	we have brief moments of lucidity
10:45	truffles	i dunno, modern day bands suck
10:46	nubbins`	i disagree
10:46	nubbins`	pop sucks, but it always has
10:46	truffles	pop at least some have decent vocals
10:47	truffles	bands hand behind the instruments
10:47	ThickAsThieves	haha
10:47	ThickAsThieves	you obv dont play an instrument
10:47	truffles	hide*
10:47	truffles	sure i did
10:47	ThickAsThieves	then you got tired of hiding?
10:47	nubbins`	my sides
10:48	truffles	yea i didnt have a future in that bs
10:48	ThickAsThieves	95% of people dont
10:49	ThickAsThieves	music as a business is no fun anyway
10:49	pankkake	decent vocals? is there any pop not autotuned now?
10:50	truffles	meh
10:54	ThickAsThieves	i found the art from my black on black KD shirt http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=79352&
10:54	ThickAsThieves	they still have stickers of it
10:55	nubbins`	that would look sawk black-on-black
10:56	nubbins`	heh, i'm just watching old videos of local bands playing bar shows
10:56	nubbins`	came across one in which i spotted myself, holding a video camera, falling around loaded drunk
10:56	ThickAsThieves	man, interpunk still had merch from my old account when i had a label in the 90s
10:56	ThickAsThieves	has*
10:57	ThickAsThieves	they hold shit in the warehouse forever
10:58	nubbins`	waaaitaminute
10:58	nubbins`	interpunk
10:58	nubbins`	i bought an ataris t-shirt from them back in high school
10:58	nubbins`	that was like 15 fuckin years ago! good for them
10:59	ThickAsThieves	i played a few shows with the ataris
10:59	ThickAsThieves	smoked pot with the singer
10:59	nubbins`	nice
10:59	ThickAsThieves	he;s a douche
10:59	ThickAsThieves	or was a douche
10:59	ThickAsThieves	hehe
11:01	nubbins`	less nice!
11:03	nubbins`	a-ha! i found the video that i took while falling around loaded
11:03	nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=augdqIHm3Gs
11:03	ozbot	Local Tough All Stars Mixup - YouTube
11:04	nubbins`	pretty much impossible to watch once i start moving around
11:12	jurov	;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
11:12	gribble	Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
11:13	jurov	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
11:13	gribble	Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found.
11:13	jurov	;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2a3c8e32b7ffdcca25593fd281c7f87d6e0b89253d35417911c668c4
11:13	gribble	Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found.
11:13	jurov	sry for noise
11:28	truffles	wonder what these ppl were thinking with that band name..
11:31	dexX7	http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/bitcoin http://stats.grok.se/zh/latest90/%E6%AF%94%E7%89%B9%E5%B8%81 start your timers.. 1-2 weeks till another new wave of user hits
11:31	ozbot	Wikipedia article traffic statistics
11:31	truffles	"hats off ta skipper" did not want to load, insert bad dick joke
11:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0055102 = 0.1047 BTC [-]
11:38	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.00267 = 0.1949 BTC [-]
11:46	nubbins`	heh
11:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 111 @ 0.00109548 = 0.1216 BTC [+]
11:46	nubbins`	reload the page, player is dodgy
11:46	deadweasel	;;ticker
11:46	gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 213.74501, Best ask: 214.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25499, Last trade: 214.00000, 24 hour volume: 5861.25962100, 24 hour low: 209.60000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.93918
11:50	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 99 @ 0.055 = 5.445 BTC [+]
11:53	kleeck	pankkake, you love MCXNow, right?
11:54	Apocalyptic	he does ?
11:54	pankkake	I wouldn't say love
11:54	pankkake	I think it's very clever
11:54	Apocalyptic	the share thing ?
11:55	kleeck	Are you investing in it?
11:55	pankkake	the whole thing; like gettings fees from deposits
11:55	dexX7	lol
11:56	pankkake	I already regret buying one share
11:56	dexX7	"a scammer is someone who promotes a scam2
11:56	dexX7	;)
11:56	pankkake	if I promote mcxnow I'd be a scammer yeah :p
11:56	truffles	lots of scammers out there with that definition
11:56	pankkake	well actually mcxnow isn't a scam, it's an exchaneg of scams :)
11:56	Apocalyptic	much less than cryptsy though
11:57	dexX7	i don't think it's a scam... the idea is somewhat great and i'm more envy of this guy for being that successful
11:57	pankkake	indeed
11:57	Apocalyptic	at least they don't add every scam coin out there
11:57	truffles	trying again nubbins` cuz im that impatient
11:57	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6425 = 1.285 BTC [+] {2}
11:57	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 927 @ 0.002695 = 2.4983 BTC [+]
11:57	pankkake	it's not a scam, but I don't think all the shares are going to be sold
11:57	dexX7	yup
11:58	dexX7	but the return isn't all that great also, right? like only 10 % per year or so?
11:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.00269948 = 1.5792 BTC [+] {2}
11:58	dexX7	woah half of them are sold
11:59	pankkake	it depends on wether you believe they will do more stuff, or that altcoins will keep gathering interets
11:59	truffles	nubbins` is it small is that why u guys were like, u know we should name our band something we can fix, i got it dicksurgery!
11:59	dexX7	i think the reason that the trading is freezed is that the owner believes the new holders would crash the price, so if you want some, wait till this happens maybe
12:00	nubbins`	truffles, i invite you to revisit the logo
12:00	nubbins`	we only perform penis reduction surgery
12:00	truffles	believe it if i see it
12:00	truffles	giving this another minute geeeeeeeeeeeeez
12:01	pankkake	yeah. I should have waited, but I thought it would resume back to trading after the limited time thing
12:01	nubbins`	http://dicksurgery.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/dick-surgery.png?w=490
12:01	truffles	wont load it again unless u fix this bs
12:01	nubbins`	player is messed up. if it doesn't play immediately, waiting won't help
12:02	truffles	its cutting off the most important part though
12:02	nubbins`	the body?
12:02	nubbins`	you only need the tip
12:02	truffles	tip
12:03	kleeck	Just noticed that mcxFEE is traded @ .53 currently, but a share IPOs @ .4?
12:03	kleeck	This raises lots of questions.
12:03	dexX7	it's freezed
12:04	truffles	does it
12:04	kleeck	Why was it being traded before the IPO - the "I" means INITIAL.
12:05	dexX7	what I?
12:05	ThickAsThieves	pre-mined!
12:05	nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-YpPxL8oA
12:05	ozbot	The Melvins - "The Kicking Machine" - Surveillance - YouTube
12:05	nubbins`	lel
12:05	kleeck	WHERE IS THE I
12:05	nubbins`	dude sat up in bed playing bass
12:05	truffles	;;
12:05	truffles	;;ticker
12:05	gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.41091, Best ask: 213.99996, Bid-ask spread: 1.58905, Last trade: 213.99996, 24 hour volume: 5878.88462327, 24 hour low: 209.76000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.96858
12:05	truffles	bitcoin rising
12:05	truffles	ohnoes
12:07	kleeck	stamp still 202.
12:07	kleeck	meh.
12:07	dexX7	not all that much volume
12:07	dexX7	half of btct's top days :)
12:08	truffles	i think that singer need a haircut, too much sideshow bob going on
12:09	nubbins`	haha
12:09	nubbins`	he was sideshow bob before sideshow bob was sideshow bob
12:09	nubbins`	http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/buzz-osbourne-yearbook.jpg
12:10	truffles	didnt like the song
12:10	nubbins`	cant please everyone
12:10	pankkake	lol
12:10	truffles	im easy though
12:11	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00083067 = 2.9904 BTC [+]
12:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00569383 = 0.5979 BTC [+] {6}
12:13	nubbins`	i have to admit, i'm surprised that btc has been hovering around 200 for this long
12:13	nubbins`	i guess 200 is the new 100
12:13	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00569937 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {4}
12:14	bob____	long = 2 weeks?
12:14	dexX7	it's long
12:14	truffles	guess it wont get back to 10
12:14	bob____	super long
12:15	dexX7	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1poaeb/this_will_all_end_in_tears/ << tin foil hat explaination why this is
12:15	ozbot	This will all end in tears. : Bitcoin
12:16	truffles	at least that guy knows how to write something engaging
12:16	truffles	wall of text nonetheless
12:17	nubbins`	made it halfway before losing interest
12:17	dexX7	tl;tr: chinese gov bought the coins, because the us now owns many
12:17	nubbins`	"Mr. Nobel was horrified to see how dynamite was used, you will be horrified to see how Bitcoin will be used."
12:17	nubbins`	what does that even mean?
12:17	truffles	intent never fullfilled?
12:18	pankkake	dynamite was meant for *mining*, right?
12:19	nubbins`	it was meant for blowing shit up, regardless of purpose
12:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
12:20	truffles	i do enjoy reading a good tin foil story
12:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.000265 = 0.3578 BTC [-]
12:22	truffles	when i can step into a store and buy shit with bitcoin, im gonna have my oh shit moment
12:22	nubbins`	as in "oh shit, why is this still less convenient than cash"?
12:22	pankkake	I hate cash, I have to count stuff
12:23	pankkake	and I never have enough coins
12:23	truffles	remember those days when ppl had to carry around heavy coins
12:23	pankkake	or end up with many little worthless coins
12:23	pankkake	(let's call them lite coins)
12:23	dexX7	lol
12:23	deadweasel	so glad we don't get change in LTC...
12:23	nubbins`	remember those days? i'm still living them
12:24	pankkake	I like the feeling of 2EUR coins though
12:24	nubbins`	pound coins are nice
12:24	truffles	weasel do u agree with accountt1234?
12:25	nubbins`	pankkake: gonna print your fc shirt soon, i just need to digest this enormous lunch
12:25	deadweasel	dafuq truffles ?
12:25	pankkake	no hurry. I'm surprised of so few orders
12:25	truffles	tin foil stuff
12:25	pankkake	well, maybe shares prices explain it :D
12:26	truffles	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1poaeb/this_will_all_end_in_tears/ that
12:26	ozbot	This will all end in tears. : Bitcoin
12:26	deadweasel	already has for many.
12:26	truffles	" How will the people of the world feel about people becoming billionaires through sheer luck? "
12:27	pankkake	I discovered bitcoin in 2009 and never bought anything. it's not luck.
12:27	nubbins`	heh
12:27	nubbins`	pankkake: there were a lot more t-shirt sales when the share price was > 4
12:27	nubbins`	i think the fact that most people still holding AM shares have lost their shirts kind of tempered demand a bit
12:29	truffles	pankkake so howd u get those coins!!
12:29	truffles	i want my ten btc
12:29	truffles	-my
12:30	truffles	-want + would like
12:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
12:31	truffles	good job cleaning up that namworld
12:32	Namworld	It's feasible
12:32	truffles	didnt like the phrasing
12:32	truffles	hehe
12:33	Namworld	I've had hundreds of BTC loaned to me at less than 1% per month for almost a year.
12:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1106 @ 0.00082658 = 0.9142 BTC [-] {2}
12:37	Apocalyptic	Namworld, just launch a bond
12:38	pankkake	it was BTC-BOND
12:39	Namworld	It lived through GLBSE and BTCT.co, now with BTCT.co, people are redeeming en masse once again. Going to suck up all my liquidities.
12:39	Namworld	I'm going direct now.
12:40	truffles	Apocalyptic whats it called?
12:40	jurov	anyone who wants to get coinbr referrals, watch this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141293.msg3450794#msg3450794
12:40	Apocalyptic	truffles, ?
12:40	jurov	announcement imminent
12:41	truffles	"<Apocalyptic> Namworld, just launch a bond" ??
12:41	Apocalyptic	i advise him to launch a bond if he needs a loan, don't know what he will call it
12:42	Apocalyptic	btw pankkake time to quit mcxnow for https://www.x-bt.com/ :)
12:42	truffles	for some reason i did not read the word "just" and that sentence changes
12:42	pankkake	"Automated database integrity checks"
12:42	dexX7	jurov: probably newb question, but are the btcusd options on coinbr, too?
12:42	pankkake	still, less ridiculous list than inputsi.o
12:43	jurov	dexX7: Yes, can be bough/sold/exercised online. Only MKOPT/SPLIT is not implemented, but can be done on request.
12:44	truffles	x-bt going to be teh new ..?
12:44	Apocalyptic	pankkake, what exactly do you find ridiculous ? marketing needs to be done
12:44	Namworld	I already have a bond called BTC-BOND
12:44	pankkake	indeed this is purely marketing
12:45	truffles	gl with that Apocalyptic
12:45	pankkake	anyway, rel x-bt.com: logo has incorrect apostrophe sign, and isn't at the right size, making it look ugly
12:46	truffles	lol
12:46	Apocalyptic	thanks truffles
12:47	Apocalyptic	damn, i only heard compliments about the logo so far
12:50	pankkake	it's your website? :)
12:50	Apocalyptic	yes
12:53	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 900 @ 0.00109548 = 0.9859 BTC [+]
12:54	nubbins`	that's not an apostrophe
12:54	nubbins`	it's a `
12:55	nubbins`	(grave accent)
12:55	truffles	nitpicking begins
12:55	pankkake	it should be a ' or better, a ’ :)
12:56	nubbins`	ooh nice one
12:56	truffles	accent aigu would be better
12:56	nubbins`	or, y'know, worse
12:56	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00082834 = 2.3194 BTC [+] {2}
12:56	pankkake	I'm anal about typography
12:57	truffles	i dont like anal
12:57	nubbins`	grow up
12:57	truffles	sad face
12:58	nubbins`	see prev stmt
12:58	truffles	doesnt help at all, ill just do MOar
12:59	nubbins`	oh god i just realized i made coffee
12:59	truffles	ewww
12:59	truffles	switch to tea
13:00	nubbins`	coffee is the drink tea wants to be
13:00	truffles	smells bad
13:00	truffles	lowers sperm count
13:00	Namworld	Now accepting claims for S.MPOE-PT and S.BBET-PT @ https://coinbr.com/btct/nampt_1
13:00	nubbins`	sounds like you've only had crappy cofee
13:00	nubbins`	+f
13:00	pankkake	coffee smells great
13:00	nubbins`	tastes better
13:00	truffles	ive had coffee in some random alcoholic drink once
13:01	nubbins`	as long as you don't adulterate it
13:01	truffles	couldve puked
13:01	nubbins`	none of this cream-sugar bullshit
13:01	pankkake	well real men like their coffee black
13:01	nubbins`	nod
13:01	nubbins`	i use 2x the standard amount of beans
13:01	nubbins`	you could stand a spoon up in my coffee
13:02	truffles	doesnt sound appealing
13:02	nubbins`	well, if you don't like coffee, of course it doesn't
13:02	truffles	lets pitch that to other coffee drinkers shall we
13:02	nubbins`	i was roasting my own for a while. good time in my life
13:03	nubbins`	ethiopia yirgacheffe is my favourite
13:03	nubbins`	tastes like blueberries exploding in your mouth
13:03	truffles	id like a blueberry muffin
13:06	truffles	hi mjr
13:07	Apocalyptic	i love blueberry muffins
13:07	truffles	: )
13:08	Namworld	I don't drink coffee. What does that makes me?
13:08	truffles	sane
13:08	nubbins`	a hammer in search of a nail
13:08	truffles	waking up to the smell is the worst
13:08	pankkake	I need a better coffee machine. the ones I had at some workplaces were great
13:08	pankkake	well it's addictive
13:09	nubbins`	the aeropress makes great coffee
13:09	Namworld	I like the taste of coffee. Coffee cake. Biscuits. Etc.
13:09	nubbins`	it's what got me into drinking black
13:09	Namworld	Just not coffee
13:09	Namworld	It's like apples
13:09	Namworld	I love everything with apples, except apples
13:09	nubbins`	french presses are good too, although if you don't like THICK coffee they're probably not your best choice
13:09	pankkake	haha, yeah I usually prefer stuff made of apples too
13:09	nubbins`	i'm allergic to apples, they make my throat burn
13:09	nubbins`	:(
13:09	truffles	how can u not love apples
13:10	nubbins`	waking up to the smell of apples is the worst
13:10	truffles	golden apples r the best
13:10	pankkake	lol
13:10	pankkake	all apples? they can be quite different
13:11	nubbins`	i'm just kidding
13:11	truffles	i get it, i have a thing against the red ones
13:11	Namworld	Eating crude apples makes gives me shivers that burrows deep down to my soul and make me cringe.
13:11	nubbins`	i love apples, can't eat them
13:11	nubbins`	same with peaches, pears, cherries
13:11	nubbins`	sucks
13:11	truffles	maybe the next generation will fare better, tough luck this round nubbins`
13:11	truffles	(talking about ur genes)
13:11	nubbins`	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome
13:12	pankkake	oh, so you like apple. i was like http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/108/5/9/mad_applejack_by_jennieoo-d4wlp3m.png
13:12	pankkake	apples*
13:12	Namworld	It's like chalkboard to some people. The crunch of crude apple is excrutiating.
13:12	truffles	if u have bad teeth?
13:13	nubbins`	it's funny though, if they're peeled it's not nearly as bad
13:13	nubbins`	and if they're cooked/canned, no problems at all
13:13	truffles	fresh fruit is like the best thing on earth
13:13	nubbins`	nod
13:13	Namworld	I lvoe fresh fruits. Except apples
13:13	nubbins`	seedless green grapes
13:14	nubbins`	PINEAPPLE
13:14	nubbins`	^^^
13:14	nubbins`	every now and then i buy a full pineapple and i don't stop eating until my mouth begins to bleed
13:14	truffles	pealing them is such a hassle
13:14	Namworld	Love the taste of apples, but they need to be cooked first to remove the crshshshsh it makes when you bite in them.
13:14	nubbins`	can't help myself
13:15	Namworld	I can stand nails on chalkboard or biting in styrofoam. But not the crshshshsh of crude apples.
13:15	nubbins`	now, that does raise the question as to why pineapple makes my mouth bleed
13:15	Namworld	I don't fucking understand
13:15	truffles	Namworld u have such a specific issue lol
13:15	pankkake	if you peel the apples they're much easier to eat
13:16	truffles	so weak!!
13:16	pankkake	I have this: http://youtu.be/2Y1Rm3Y7MEs
13:17	truffles	the skin is good to eat though
13:17	pankkake	if it's organic. otherwise BLEH
13:18	jurov	so, digg is apparently still alive and sending me emails from the grave. their today's headline is
13:18	jurov	http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/how-spot-reptilians-runing-us-government/71020/
13:18	ozbot	How to Spot the Reptilians Running the U.S. Government - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire
13:18	nubbins`	hahahahaha
13:18	Namworld	I don't even have to eat one, just someone biting in one beside me makes me shiver.
13:18	nubbins`	pankkake: awesome
13:19	Namworld	Curse those crude apples.
13:19	truffles	ure missing out
13:19	truffles	nubbins` when u eat the pinapples make sure it doesnt touch the sides of ur mouth
13:19	truffles	acid is a bit much for that region
13:21	jurov	*truffles swallows.
13:21	truffles	truffles r yum
13:21	nubbins`	i don't think i can eat food without it touching the sides of my mouth
13:21	Namworld	Not really, plenty of good stuff with apples in them. Like pie.
13:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.64489993 = 5.1592 BTC [+] {2}
13:22	nubbins`	ah
13:22	truffles	thinking of making some apple pie
13:22	nubbins`	apparently pineapples contain a lot of bromelain
13:22	nubbins`	which is a meat tenderizer
13:22	nubbins`	so essentially when i eat a full pineapple, it's like smashing my mouth with a mallet
13:24	Namworld	Just... no
13:26	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 257 @ 0.00109548 = 0.2815 BTC [+] {2}
13:26	nubbins`	seriously, i'll take a bite out of a big piece, pull the rest away from my mouth, and it's RED
13:27	truffles	needs more care while eating or mouth problems occur ldo
13:27	Namworld	That's cause there's some harder filaments of fibers in them and lots of acid. It's making your gums bleed.
13:27	truffles	professional fruit eater here
13:28	Namworld	(#bitcoin-assets was already renamed to #The-Color-Channel)
13:28	truffles	#truffles-chat
13:30	truffles	i do what i can to provide light chattery, btc stuff is prob stressful ya know
13:31	bob____	when's the announcement?
13:31	bob____	i have been holding my breath for a fricking hour
13:32	truffles	exhibit a
13:32	bob____	"imminent" means soon.
13:32	nubbins`	announcement from whom?
13:32	bob____	jurov.
13:32	jurov	bob____: just go to addy Namworld provided
13:32	jurov	https://coinbr.com/btct/nampt_1 here
13:32	ozbot	[CoinBr]BTCT export
13:33	bob____	weak, you linked to that *before* you said you had an announcement
13:33	jurov	if you have coinbr account, you can spam linked btctalk thread with referrals :D
13:33	bob____	i thought there was another one
13:33	bob____	got all excited and shit
13:34	jurov	i'm out of announcements for foreseeable future, sorry to excite you
13:34	truffles	prob needs some dicksurgery in his life now
13:34	bob____	definitely
13:35	nubbins`	ha
13:35	jurov	hmmm... but prolly i can erase the "beta" out of the logo and make proper preannouncement and announcement
13:35	nubbins`	pre-pre-pre
13:36	truffles	yea if u hype it up like that ure sure to let ppl down
13:36	bob____	bah, save it for when you improve your logo and make it amazing.
13:36	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:36	jurov	the mermaid is amazing enough... or you want bigger boobs?
13:36	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:36	bob____	i want white lines instead of black so i can see her
13:36	truffles	amazing is the word
13:36	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:37	truffles	omg im gonna be amazing
13:37	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:37	jurov	final logo will be more like this: http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/coinbr-248x50.png
13:37	nubbins`	oof
13:37	bob____	ok, so that was the pre-announcement
13:37	bob____	now we're getting somewhere
13:37	truffles	its gonna be amazing
13:37	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:37	bob____	thank you truffles.
13:37	jurov	(^^)
13:38	truffles	its amazing i dont see any boobs on that
13:38	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:38	nubbins`	please stop
13:38	truffles	its not my fault!
13:41	truffles	im gonna have to avoid the word now
13:41	truffles	why dont u find it funny
13:41	truffles	some1 thought it was
13:41	nubbins`	because it happened six times in two minutes
13:41	truffles	whats a good lenght of time then
13:41	nubbins`	does anyone who doesn't have shit taste in music want to recommend a full album for me to listen to while printing?
13:42	truffles	listen to californication
13:42	pankkake	that is very subjective
13:42	pankkake	barf
13:42	truffles	what theyre good!
13:42	jurov	http://www.youtube.com/user/IvoryTrance/videos?view=1&flow=grid nubbins`: since you need to calm down, i recommend the relax playlist
13:42	ozbot	IvoryTrance - YouTube
13:43	jurov	it's amazing
13:43	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:43	nubbins`	californication, lel
13:43	truffles	i find the amazing thing hilarious
13:43	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:43	nubbins`	ehh, not into trance
13:44	truffles	whats wrong with the peppers?
13:45	nubbins`	washed up, trite shitheads who haven't had a good album in like 20 years
13:45	jurov	it's not classic dum-dum-dum trance. my fave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2gkA8XuvvQ
13:45	truffles	the melvins?
13:45	pankkake	it's chillout. I like it :)
13:46	nubbins`	nah, i need something more upbeat
13:46	nubbins`	also preferably something they wouldn't play at a dance club
13:47	truffles	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv8sY2CxZA my go to for upbeat
13:47	ozbot	Metallica - Whiplash - YouTube
13:47	nubbins`	fuck metallica
13:47	nubbins`	i'm not sure i should have asked you guys for your input
13:48	truffles	uh huh
13:48	truffles	r u jelly of metallica?
13:48	nubbins`	HEH
13:48	nubbins`	bunch of fuckin losers
13:49	truffles	i just rly like that song discovered it this yr
13:49	pankkake	I AM THE TABLE
13:49	truffles	lol
13:49	nubbins`	washed up, trite shitheads who probably never had a good album
13:49	truffles	i jib about that one a lot
13:49	Namworld	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321672.0
13:49	ozbot	Elray Resources[-OTCBB ELRA-]*Elray Gaming Inc.*
13:49	Namworld	lulzy
13:49	truffles	i am the table rofl
13:49	pankkake	http://youtu.be/6VlEzRxeLac
13:49	ozbot	Asura - Code Eternity [FULL ALBUM] - YouTube
13:49	Namworld	I see MPOE-PR already left her mark on the thread
13:50	nubbins`	meh
13:50	pankkake	the guy can't make a post with any beggining of sense
13:50	nubbins`	all this electro stuff you're posting sounds overly masturbatory to me
13:50	nubbins`	13-minute builds and shit
13:51	nubbins`	i'm not on ecstasy
13:51	truffles	so u wouldnt like dupstep?
13:51	pankkake	yeah. I hope jurov will like it though :)
13:51	pankkake	dumpstep
13:51	nubbins`	dubstep isn't great
13:51	nubbins`	it's just electro run through a VCF
13:51	truffles	haters gonna hate
13:51	nubbins`	and some asshole twists 2 knobs
13:52	pankkake	http://youtu.be/138AnFonZMg
13:52	ozbot	La Roux - In For The Kill (Skream Remix HQ) - YouTube
13:52	nubbins`	http://imgur.com/PHKuhmL
13:52	ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer
13:52	nubbins`	^ dubstep
13:52	pankkake	hahaha
13:53	truffles	lol
13:53	truffles	i cant look away
13:53	truffles	what is that
13:53	jcpham	funny
13:53	nubbins`	okay, can someone recommend a full album that would be appreciated by someone who isn't fucked on drugs at a rave?
13:54	truffles	i like this in for the kill song good choice pankkake
13:54	pankkake	aw, you just excluded all my musical taste at once
13:54	pankkake	well there's others but worse
13:55	nubbins`	heh
13:55	nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtiArBwMnTA
13:55	ozbot	The Birthday Party - King Ink Live LIVE - YouTube
13:55	nubbins`	more my style
13:55	nubbins`	that whole album is amazing btw
13:55	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
13:56	nubbins`	my wife HATES it tho
13:56	truffles	so lemme guess u only like rock?
13:56	nubbins`	no, i like most types of music
13:57	nubbins`	but i like listening to shit out of the ordinary
13:57	truffles	there seems to be some kind of noise in the background of this song
13:57	nubbins`	australia in the early 80s, there's lots of noise in the background. shit equipment :P
13:58	truffles	i find better dubstep than that..
13:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00579896 = 1.7397 BTC [+] {5}
13:59	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62233333 = 1.867 BTC [-] {2}
14:00	pankkake	http://youtu.be/f0P8xt-O99M
14:00	ozbot	Cynic - Traced in Air (Full Album) - YouTube
14:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1174 @ 0.00109548 = 1.2861 BTC [+]
14:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0058895 = 1.7669 BTC [+] {3}
14:01	nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc3ZAs17uAg&list=PLC8479FFD675AD19D
14:01	ozbot	Beirut - "Nantes" - YouTube
14:02	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.621 = 1.863 BTC [-]
14:02	truffles	dat photo!
14:02	truffles	must not stare
14:02	nubbins`	sorry
14:02	nubbins`	wrong link
14:02	nubbins`	try this one
14:02	nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6TCjgeD8Us
14:02	ozbot	Beirut Cheap Magic Inside. Complete 69 minutes - YouTube
14:03	truffles	talking about the cynic
14:03	plambert	can anybody here answer questions about CoinBR?
14:03	dexX7	jurov *ping*
14:03	deadweasel	diggin the jamz, thx nubs
14:03	deadweasel	plambert, what's the Q? The answerman is here somewhere.
14:04	truffles	weasel which ones?
14:04	nubbins`	weasel check that last one
14:04	deadweasel	Adam's Murmur, Cynic
14:04	truffles	cynic wasnt him
14:04	jurov	plambert, i can
14:04	truffles	he's got bad rock tastes man
14:04	plambert	I sent some bitcoin to my account, and I see it moved from the address I sent it to, but it still says the account balance is 0?
14:04	deadweasel	for hair metal, it's pretty good
14:05	truffles	its all metal/rock to me..
14:05	jurov	O.o it missed a deposit? ill check
14:05	deadweasel	plambert, deposits, I believe are done by hand, for security reasons... give it an hour, he usually gets to it quickly.
14:05	deadweasel	oops, i jurov
14:05	deadweasel	hi*
14:06	deadweasel	lucky for him
14:06	deadweasel	Cynic crashed my pandora
14:06	deadweasel	fucking nubbs!
14:07	truffles	im musiced out
14:07	deadweasel	plug yer ears
14:07	truffles	nah will continue next week
14:08	deadweasel	http://www.movember.com/
14:08	ozbot	Movember
14:08	deadweasel	DO IT.
14:08	deadweasel	For your fucking prostate's sake :)
14:08	truffles	k
14:08	pankkake	I haven't shaved in a month or so
14:09	deadweasel	i'd be surprised if you'd left your house in a month or so pankkake
14:09	deadweasel	:P
14:09	jurov	plambert: fixed, sorry for that
14:09	nubbins`	longest i went w/o shaving was 9 months
14:09	pankkake	eh, never get out much
14:09	deadweasel	it's overrated.
14:09	pankkake	but those last months even less so
14:09	plambert	cool, glad that was easy to fix :)
14:09	deadweasel	it's a feature, plambert
14:09	nubbins`	https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1006328_10153093527940088_1669218208_n.jpg
14:10	truffles	men just need to be tough anyways, health pfff
14:10	plambert	a feature of CoinBR or a feature of bitcoin?
14:10	deadweasel	nubbs, that you?
14:10	pankkake	color do not match
14:10	nubbins`	deadweasel: yeah
14:10	nubbins`	from this summer
14:10	deadweasel	nice to meet you!
14:10	nubbins`	the pleasure is mine
14:11	pankkake	I don't have your beard level yet
14:11	jurov	plambert: something happened to wallet monitoring
14:11	truffles	too much beard
14:11	nubbins`	pankkake: it's all shaved off now
14:11	pankkake	RIP
14:11	nubbins`	yeah
14:11	nubbins`	i had a court date
14:11	nubbins`	didn't want to look like a miscreant
14:11	pankkake	haha
14:11	truffles	what woman wants that in her ...
14:12	nubbins`	truffles: i was married about 4 hours after that picture was taken
14:12	deadweasel	lol, awesome.
14:12	nubbins`	all fluffed up for my big day ;p
14:12	truffles	why is ur hair different color
14:12	truffles	ure redhead?
14:12	nubbins`	same reason my nut hair is a different color
14:13	deadweasel	haha, he's a mongrel dog, like all great people.
14:13	nubbins`	genetics
14:13	nubbins`	only my beard is red
14:13	truffles	mongrel dog sounds very pleasant
14:13	deadweasel	i have some reds in my stache, some gray, most dark brn. head near black.
14:13	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082712 = 0.8271 BTC [-]
14:14	nubbins`	deadweasel: looks like i'm not the only camper here
14:14	truffles	im a cat person
14:14	truffles	no wonder we clash weasel
14:16	plambert	jurov: does CoinBR send out an email when an order gets filled?
14:16	jurov	no, it's planned
14:16	jurov	argh, i should file a bug...when python logging can't write to tty, it waits and stops everything :(
14:16	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00594429 = 2.9721 BTC [+] {6}
14:17	deadweasel	truffles we get along great
14:17	deadweasel	:)
14:17	truffles	says u
14:17	truffles	i could be steaming over here
14:17	nubbins`	https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/947247_688017367890882_1899067181_n.jpg
14:17	nubbins`	lel
14:17	nubbins`	forgot about that one
14:18	pankkake	it's like a cat picture but with a man instead
14:18	nubbins`	new screens for business = new box for me
14:18	deadweasel	the box is always better than the contents, every cat-person knows that.
14:18	truffles	i have a photo with a cat in box just like that
14:18	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6150001 = 3.075 BTC [-]
14:19	nubbins`	deadweasel: nod
14:19	nubbins`	https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1234335_10153295828715088_1417739520_n.jpg
14:19	nubbins`	same kitchen, 3 feet to the left
14:19	deadweasel	the ultimate: refridgerator box
14:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00604444 = 0.3264 BTC [+] {2}
14:20	nubbins`	pankkake: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943558_10153009658410088_2105594213_n.jpg
14:20	deadweasel	Newfoundland Labrador Liquor Foundation? SOunds like a group I would get along with...
14:20	pankkake	♥
14:21	truffles	not a pretty kitty ..
14:21	truffles	needs exercise too
14:22	nubbins`	essentially the cutest cat
14:22	nubbins`	ANYWAY
14:22	jimmybob	IM GOING MAKE A MILLION QUID ON ACTM
14:22	nubbins`	i'm supposed to be printing shirts
14:22	nubbins`	thanks, nobody, for suggesting music
14:22	jimmybob	I HAVE 546 SHARES
14:22	jcpham	activemining huh
14:22	truffles	ure too picky
14:22	truffles	quids..
14:24	pankkake	what's quids?
14:24	truffles	money
14:24	truffles	terribly named
14:24	pankkake	harry potter money?
14:24	truffles	might as well be
14:24	deadweasel	i suggest Santigold
14:25	truffles	after extensively staring ive concluded this is a cute kitty
14:25	deadweasel	Maybe some takenobu if you can handle cello music
14:25	deadweasel	Ronald Jenkees for electronic
14:26	deadweasel	Gil-Scott Heron for some good fucking music
14:26	truffles	sex?
14:26	deadweasel	Reggie Watts and Rhazel for some good artistic and funny shit
14:26	deadweasel	yes, pls, truffles.
14:26	truffles	u wish :D
14:27	bob____	jurov: try logging to a file instead of a terminal. then you can always look at the file later if you want to read it.
14:27	jurov	perhaps.
14:28	bob____	at least i make myself laugh.
14:28	truffles	got u beat on that bob
14:29	bob____	yes but i am assuming you are drunk.
14:29	truffles	on life
14:30	truffles	weasel this was false advertising with mr heron
14:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000265 = 0.265 BTC [+]
14:31	truffles	he's no marvin gaye
14:31	bob____	hehe, they figured out the problem with healthcare.gov
14:31	bob____	'President Obama embraced a cloud first policy, and going forward I hope this may be among the last few major IT projects not built entirely on the cloud from day one,' said former White House CTO Aneesh Chopra
14:31	pankkake	it was the .gov?
14:31	jimmybob	JUST BECAUSE I HAVE MORE QUIDS THAN YALL
14:32	pankkake	lol
14:32	pankkake	so it was "not enough cloud"
14:32	pankkake	:|
14:32	bob____	need more day 0 cloudz
14:36	deadweasel	'Needs More CloudBell'
14:36	deadweasel	truffles, if you can get down with Gil-Scott, you're just not trying..
14:37	truffles	exactly
		~ 19 minutes ~
14:56	truffles	um
14:56	truffles	guess its time to decompress
15:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00580007 = 0.2204 BTC [-]
15:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 125 @ 0.04555998 = 5.695 BTC [-] {9}
15:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00580007 = 0.2668 BTC [-]
15:06	kakobrekla	hi
15:06	kakobrekla	what did i miss
15:09	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2200 @ 0.00109001 = 2.398 BTC [-] {8}
15:10	bob____	!t m s.bbet
15:10	assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00046 / 0.00068456 / 0.00071 (21805 shares, 14.93 BTC), 30D: 0.00046 / 0.00064054 / 0.00071 (30105 shares, 19.28 BTC)
15:10	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00108225 = 2.1645 BTC [-] {11}
15:14	kakobrekla	nothing then?
15:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1566 @ 0.00561131 = 8.7873 BTC [-] {18}
15:15	bob____	nope
15:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.0056 = 0.784 BTC [-] {2}
15:16	kakobrekla	mkay.
15:16	bob____	kako, if there are 10mm shares of s.bbet, how come the dividend pays out as if there were only 3mm shares?
15:16	bob____	says 10mm shares: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141458.msg1506357#msg1506357
15:17	bob____	but "per satoshi" dividends on mpex imply 3mm shares
15:17	kakobrekla	3m are on mpex, 7 aint.
15:17	bob____	oh
15:18	Namworld	The dividend on MPEx should also be 3/10th of what dividend should actually be
15:19	kakobrekla	;;later tell mircea_popescu kinda interesting http://bitbet.us/stats/1F5xmcawt7zDwLmZfyEju51csDeYLZ5ais/
15:19	gribble	The operation succeeded.
15:19	Namworld	Per share amount should be accurate to profit / 10 million
15:19	bob____	hard to tell since mp still needs practice at paying out dividends
15:20	kakobrekla	:D
15:25	bob____	so at 0.0005 s.bbet has a p/e of around 100. not bat-shit crazy given growth potential.
15:25	jurov	kakobrekla: will there be top winners,top losers stats? =P
15:25	kakobrekla	mebbe
15:25	kakobrekla	its ticky to do those in the right way.
15:26	kakobrekla	tricky
15:26	nubbins`	tikki tikki tembo
15:26	kakobrekla	not the code but the way you present it
15:27	kakobrekla	that shit has major psychological effects.
15:27	bob____	top losers is a bad idea for a gambling site..
15:27	bob____	might get them to stop playing
15:27	kakobrekla	i know some good solutions to this just cant be applied to bbet
15:28	kakobrekla	so, we will see.
15:32	nubbins`	"top 10 losers of the year"
15:32	kakobrekla	inaba takes the caek.
15:34	kakobrekla	sooo
15:34	kakobrekla	john K
15:34	kakobrekla	'the goto guy for escrow'
15:34	kakobrekla	gone
15:35	kakobrekla	hey nanotube, can you make the ID clickable in the rating list so one can link to a particular rating 'tx'
15:36	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36489989 BTC [-]
15:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3648999 = 1.0947 BTC [+]
15:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0056 = 0.4424 BTC [-]
15:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3000001 BTC [-]
15:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00556563 = 0.6234 BTC [-] {2}
15:56	mircea_popescu	;;ticker
15:56	gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.40008, Best ask: 213.79936, Bid-ask spread: 1.39928, Last trade: 212.40002, 24 hour volume: 5661.20444295, 24 hour low: 209.76000, 24 hour high: 215.00000, 24 hour vwap: 212.92397
15:56	deadweasel	kakobrekla, you said John K is GONE?
15:56	kakobrekla	is what the word is
15:56	dexX7	ouch
15:57	deadweasel	jesus, did he leave in the middle of a large escrow?
15:57	dexX7	i heard this some days/weeks ago, too
15:57	kakobrekla	340 btc
15:57	dexX7	he holds several thousand coins imho
15:57	pankkake	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322809.0
15:57	deadweasel	yeah, I'm out of the loop.
15:57	ozbot	Where's John K?
15:57	deadweasel	thx
15:57	mircea_popescu	wow.
15:57	kakobrekla	i got this on email, forum excerpts
15:57	kakobrekla	so cool.
15:57	dexX7	for example some bitcointalk treasury coins
15:57	deadweasel	If Graet ever disappears, I'll shit myself.
15:58	kakobrekla	oh yeah
15:58	kakobrekla	in the OTC it says he holds forums coins
15:58	mircea_popescu	so this is why people were bitching to basically be alloweds to use bitbet as an escrow for months
15:58	mircea_popescu	still, oct 23rd. he could have got run over by a bus / had a heart attack / etc.
15:58	mircea_popescu	perhaps too early to panic.
15:59	kakobrekla	21736 theymos 92 johnthedong 2013-03-21 03:35:46 9 Long-time forum moderator. Holds BTC for the forum.
15:59	nubbins`	maybe a spooky halloween ghost found him
15:59	deadweasel	haha, did that bitbet resolve yet?
15:59	deadweasel	maybe I should go put a coin on it...
15:59	jurov	is he a trolltalk treasurer as well? maybe i can win the bet at last :P
15:59	deadweasel	unless he was hit by a bus...
15:59	mircea_popescu	jurov yeah he is.
16:00	Namworld	What's that thing about John K. being gone?
16:02	jurov	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322809.0
16:02	ozbot	Where's John K?
16:02	kakobrekla	were is waldo?
16:02	kakobrekla	where
16:05	mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.60
16:05	ozbot	Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
16:05	mircea_popescu	meanwhile the we're poor but eager butthurt continues
16:06	kakobrekla	>No. What's listed are assets publicly and provenly owned. Everyone else's supposed BTC stashes are nothing more than empty claims.
16:07	kakobrekla	is this the time when we start signing messages to measure dicklenght
16:07	mircea_popescu	well honestly i am sort-of hoping rpietilla goes berserk again and starts sending people btc
16:07	mircea_popescu	for graet justic
16:07	mircea_popescu	ow shit, that highlights him doesn't it. sorry g!
16:08	kakobrekla	lol
16:10	mircea_popescu	anyway it'll be funny when it gets to ver's 300k btc. i never met someone with millions in their pocket go nuts over a 5 btc mispayment or whatever that was last summer.
16:10	kakobrekla	lol
16:10	jurov	;;later tell BingoBoingo "thx for free pentests, but nothing to be seen here"
16:10	gribble	The operation succeeded.
16:12	kakobrekla	i dont think you need teh quotes btw
16:13	nubbins`	yeah, now it looks sarcastic
16:13	nubbins`	;;later tell jurov "thanks"
16:13	gribble	The operation succeeded.
16:13	jurov	better safe than sorry... i quote everything that has spaces
16:13	jurov	and mircea quotes even numbers]
16:13	jurov	in JSON
16:14	kakobrekla	yeah but hes a nutjob
16:14	nubbins`	well, that's valid
16:14	nubbins`	then EVERYTHING is a string
16:14	nubbins`	no need to worry about casting
16:15	mircea_popescu	i'm not a job. never had a job in my life.
16:15	jurov	cuz to avoid some braindamaged implementations which use floating point for all numbers
16:15	jurov	etc.
16:15	mircea_popescu	nubbins` knows.
16:15	kakobrekla	me neither
16:15	kakobrekla	tbh
16:15	nubbins`	mp may be the only man who has (a) never had a job and (b) never worn a t-shirt
16:15	nubbins`	usually the two are mutually exclusive
16:15	mircea_popescu	so hashfast is not delivering ?
16:16	mircea_popescu	nubbins` actually i'll do you better : it's not that i've never worn a shirt, it's that i've always worn a suit.
16:16	mircea_popescu	people have pix of me @seaside hanging out with da nudist bitchez in a suit
16:17	kakobrekla	lol
16:17	pankkake	a real-life barney stinson?
16:17	mircea_popescu	i dunno who tha is
16:17	nubbins`	http://imgur.com/SSSMuCY
16:17	ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer
16:22	mircea_popescu	;;ident Scrat
16:22	gribble	Nick 'Scrat', with hostmask 'Scrat!~Scrat@unaffiliated/scrat', is not identified.
16:23	Scrat	boo
16:23	mircea_popescu	heya.
16:24	Scrat	;;ident
16:24	gribble	You are identified as user scrat, with GPG key id 85FC850EDF0A28FB, key fingerprint 457405953F36448B7AC91A5C85FC850EDF0A28FB, and bitcoin address 1Ch2shUcZDXrU3YskYDqY7CQCpsaeZU9Wa
16:26	mircea_popescu	nubbins` unbelievable as this may sound, i was a much cuter kid.
16:26	nubbins`	i'm fairly sure that baby has his eyebrows penciled in
16:27	mircea_popescu	for most of my infancy i was a curly blond haired kid with blue eyes
16:29	mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/431/nyc-will-ban-cigarette-sales-to-those-under/
16:29	ozbot	BitBet - NYC will ban cigarette sales to those under the age of 21 by end of October
16:29	mircea_popescu	dude wtf, this is about to resolve as yes.
16:30	nubbins`	haha
16:30	nubbins`	read about that earlier today
16:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.614 = 1.228 BTC [-] {2}
16:31	nubbins`	i guess next you'll need to be 21 to vote
16:31	mircea_popescu	somebody's making some bitcents at the expense of ten million newyorkers
16:32	nubbins`	http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/
16:32	ozbot	BitBet - Havelock will announce US restrictions by Guy Fawkes Night
16:32	nubbins`	honestly thought this one would end up going the other way. this is why i don't gamble much
16:33	mircea_popescu	nubbins` most bitbet bets go the other fucking way.
16:33	mircea_popescu	hence "that gay ass site, bitbet"
16:35	nubbins`	heh
16:35	nubbins`	funny thing about ways, i guess
16:37	mircea_popescu	douchengjie@d181.k12.id.us 4:33 pm It is our new report (Super sub-penny)!!!
16:37	mircea_popescu	look at that, spammer got the first 6 letters right.
		~ 15 minutes ~
16:52	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 546 @ 0.001082 = 0.5908 BTC [-]
17:03	jurov	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141293.msg3458927#msg3458927 pankkake i see what you did there :DDD
17:03	ozbot	[BTC-TC] S.MPOE / S.BBET Pass-throughs
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17:27	nanotube	kakobrekla: sure theoretically yes... but what's the use case?
17:32	mike_c	I'm going to try something.. maybe stupid but we'll see.
17:32	mike_c	Let's try and auction off some options
17:33	mike_c	I've got 40 calls up at 200: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T currently selling for 0.32
17:33	mike_c	every 5 minutes I'm going to drop the price 0.02 until somebody buys them.
17:33	mike_c	ready set go!
17:34	mircea_popescu	you know the bot will autobuy them eventually
17:35	mike_c	unless a smart investor picks them up
17:35	mircea_popescu	true.
17:35	mike_c	i heard a rumor there were smart investors in this channel
17:38	mircea_popescu	wholly unsubstantiated.
17:38	ThickAsThieves	well, some are smart, some are investors
17:39	mike_c	we'll see. price dropped. one bidder already at 0.1215!
17:39	assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1437919/plain/)
17:39	ThickAsThieves	!b 5
17:39	ThickAsThieves	Yes, I'm quoting myself.
17:39	ThickAsThieves	!b1
17:39	assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1437920/plain/)
17:39	ThickAsThieves	!b 2
17:40	ThickAsThieves	:)
17:45	mike_c	for inspiration, last month people who bought my options made 28%. that's damn near 1% a day. price dropped.
17:47	topace	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/20131101-announcement.php
17:48	pankkake	yay
17:49	pankkake	oh well, I lost http://bitbet.us/bet/552/havelock-will-announce-us-restrictions-by-guy-fawkes/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK
17:50	mike_c	http://ohuiginn.net/panama/company/id/610201
17:50	pankkake	another Alberto!
17:51	mike_c	if that's accurate, the directors are on the board of a ton of companies.
17:51	mike_c	which means it's a shell corp, no?
17:53	Namworld	Apparently
17:57	mike_c	down to 0.24, no nibbles yet. http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T
17:57	mircea_popescu	;;calc 200 / .76
17:57	gribble	263.157894737
17:58	kakobrekla	nanotube i just want to have the mans to point to a specific user to user action, could also be done in a way that log.bitcoin-assets works (with the hash tag in the url to jump & highlight a specific line)
17:58	kakobrekla	mans. right. means.
18:06	Namworld	Sell them for 0.12
18:06	Namworld	There's bids
18:06	mike_c	price is dropping every 5 minutes
18:06	mike_c	about to drop to 0.2
18:07	mike_c	;; calc 200 / 0.8
18:07	gribble	250
18:07	mike_c	man.. i'm gunna get reamed on this. down to 0.2
18:08	mircea_popescu	why are you so sure it's going past 250 ?
18:08	Namworld	The buyers at 0.12 are going to get reamed
18:09	Namworld	I feel the current price is maybe too high. It's nice that value is rising but I'm unsure why it needs to raise so quickly.
18:09	mike_c	it's about volatility, not where the price is
18:09	mike_c	0.12 does not represent much volatitlity at all. even 0.2 is a great buy
18:09	Namworld	If we doubled in price every 2 months like that, in 1 year we'd be at 12,800 USD per BTC
18:10	mike_c	the rate of change of the underlying is not even a factor in option pricing.
18:10	mike_c	it's implied volatility.
18:11	mike_c	also, different conversation, 10k usd / btc does not seem impossible to me :)
18:12	mircea_popescu	mike_c by the end of this month you can count on it as impossible.
18:12	mike_c	yes
18:12	mike_c	although your collateral requirements for options seem to account for it..
18:12	mike_c	1 btc per option seems stiff
18:17	mircea_popescu	it's mostly so peopel don't go into tbtf mode.
18:17	Vp7771	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323077.0;topicseen
18:17	ozbot	[Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com
18:17	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0008302 = 2.7397 BTC [+]
18:18	Vp7771	no fucking kidding
18:18	Vp7771	this sounds awesome
18:18	mike_c	ok.. if anybody is lurking and waiting to snipe these, you are running out of time. down to 0.16
18:19	Vp7771	sounds like some cool shit going on in Panama
18:22	mircea_popescu	http://www.supervalores.gob.pa/files/Sociedades/sociedades_inversion_registradas_notificadas.pdf
18:22	mircea_popescu	CNV No. 313‐2008
18:23	mircea_popescu	http://www.gacetaoficial.gob.pa/pdfTemp/26372/16482.pdf
18:25	mircea_popescu	there doesn't seem to be much outside of that.
18:26	mike_c	auction is over in 2 minutes. last chance. http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T
18:27	assbot	[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 40 @ 0.14 = 5.6 BTC [+]
18:28	mike_c	oh snap!
18:28	mike_c	with 30 seconds left
18:28	mike_c	good buy somebody.
18:29	mircea_popescu	;;calc 200 / .86
18:29	gribble	232.558139535
18:29	mircea_popescu	that looks quite possible.
18:29	mike_c	yes.. lower than i was hoping for.
18:29	mike_c	but the market has spoken.
18:30	mike_c	well, that was fun. good times everyone.
18:30	mircea_popescu	$vwap ^oix
18:31	mpexbot	mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:31	mircea_popescu	orly
18:43	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu have the ugliest security exchange in the world and most disturbing PR person on the planet
18:43	mircea_popescu	o/
18:47	jurov	don't forget ugliest broker interface!
18:47	mike_c	and it hasn't sold to the panamanians.
18:48	pankkake	but the broken has a mermaid
18:48	pankkake	broker* oops
18:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0609 = 0.1827 BTC [-]
18:48	jurov	she's there to distract :D
18:48	pankkake	to lure our coins
18:49	skinnkavaj	Didn't MPOE get hacked recently and burnside humilated MPOE-PR in forums?
18:50	mircea_popescu	in the sense you were right about investments recently, sure.
18:50	skinnkavaj	That was the funniest post on bitcointalk ever
18:50	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: Is MPOE-PR your girl friend or someone you hired?
18:51	mircea_popescu	mpoe-pr is teh forum pm.
18:52	Vp7771	Mirceau what are those docs?
18:54	BingoBoingo	Jurov, ur welcome.
18:55	BingoBoingo	skinnkavaj: You do know that there are very affordable and very good looking MPEx brokers right? https://coinbr.com/ref?c=a6P4RWfUKU
18:57	nubbins`	as if i'd follow a referral link that says "fuk u" at the end! ;)
18:58	pankkake	good point! here is a fix https://coinbr.com/ref?c=V1CUawCMeE
18:58	mircea_popescu	lol this guy's strings always end up like that
18:58	pankkake	referral links turn users into spammers
18:58	jurov	omg..... BingoBoingo, u want to change it? but the old one ceases to work then
19:00	BingoBoingo	jurov: I like this one. I mean one of my BTC addresses is 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4
19:02	mircea_popescu	Vp7771 you know you can just type mirc and hit tab, that way it actually highlights
19:02	mircea_popescu	and the 2nd doc is the registration paperwork of the panama fund thing. the first is a list.
19:02	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0609 = 0.1218 BTC [-]
19:06	mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20o
19:06	ozbot	Leon Theremin playing his own instrument - YouTube
19:07	mike_c	mircea_popescu: i want to make one more push for announcing option exercises to assbot. it is the only way to know two things: 1) open interest 2) excercise costs. otherwise it's just a big mystery when/if the option holders are excercising and, not that mpex would ever make a mistake, there is no way for me to verify the excercise costs.
19:08	mircea_popescu	what has changed since the prev discussion ?
19:08	mike_c	um, last time you just said it "wasn't standard"
19:08	mike_c	i was hoping to sway you.
19:09	mircea_popescu	so, on one hand option exercises are not commonly announced in any market.
19:09	mike_c	sort of they are though. when excercises are assigned the option holder knows about it
19:09	mike_c	er, option writer
19:09	benkay	you'll know if you get exercised against, mike_c. if you're calling stat regularly enough.
19:10	mike_c	no, you won't. that's my issue.
19:10	mircea_popescu	on the other hand, the btc options market is fragile, and this may be one of those cases where information aggravates problems.
19:10	benkay	yes you will if you are programmatically running bookkeeping
19:10	mike_c	no, all excercises are calculated and assigned at end-of-month
19:10	mike_c	not during the month
19:10	mircea_popescu	benkay when, he can infer at end of month
19:11	benkay	mircea_popescu: is it true that exercises aren't assigned until end of month?
19:11	mircea_popescu	exercises are assigned, but collateral is not returned until end of month.
19:12	mircea_popescu	basically underwriting an option puts you in this firm, fixed term commitment.
19:12	benkay	of course.
19:13	mike_c	i'm trying to figure out what problem the information would aggravate?
19:13	mike_c	we know when they are sold, but knowing when they are excercised would..
19:13	mike_c	i'm blanking
19:14	mircea_popescu	conceivably it would cause panic, especially if you take the returned capital to immediately go the other way.
19:14	mike_c	ah
19:14	mircea_popescu	let's take a case, as a for instance. you write 1000 calls @200, deposit 1000 btc.
19:14	mircea_popescu	you sell these for .15
19:14	mircea_popescu	a week later, the price doubles. you get exercised. you obtain say 650 btc back.
19:15	mircea_popescu	if you dump this 650 btc into buying more btc on margin, you are in fact adding to the noise
19:15	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: re: the termenvox link: good illustration of virtuoso (vs. bozo) concept.
19:15	mike_c	ok. i would in fact be fine with announcing the excercise, but not returning the capital.
19:15	mircea_popescu	in a heavily mommentum traded by vastly the incompetent and clueless, on very little actgual capital
19:15	mircea_popescu	this is a recipe for disaster.
19:16	mircea_popescu	announcing the exercise is not substantially different, in that it would send an actionable signal of the same type.
19:16	mike_c	but it would take more capital to act on it.
19:16	mircea_popescu	suppose you have credit taken which gets called on the ground of exercises being announced.
19:16	mircea_popescu	well no, problem branches in a different direction now.
19:16	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah. tho he cheats by having the piano there.
19:17	mircea_popescu	so, in general mike_c i can see some merit for what you're saying, and in the end things are going to move that way. mpex is in no way given for all time as it is.
19:17	mircea_popescu	nevertheless, i consider it premature.
19:17	mike_c	ok. i will come back and try again in a few months
19:18	mircea_popescu	i think the sort of macro stability you want here may take a little more than a few months.
19:18	mike_c	then you will probably say "no" at that time as well :)
19:19	mircea_popescu	anyway, you don't HAVE to underwrite options, you can pretty much cover all strategies simply buying
19:21	nubbins`	^ panama jack!
19:22	mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/embed/bXn4_JkVFVo
19:22	ozbot	cat plays theremin - YouTube
19:36	pankkake	I always wanted a theremin. it's not that expensive either
19:36	pankkake	of course I'd do nothing of it…
19:37	ThickAsThieves	i considered it
19:37	ThickAsThieves	but there are decent plugins
19:37	pankkake	but all the fun is moving your hands in the air!
19:38	pankkake	or your feet
19:38	mircea_popescu	i think it has a major ux flaw.
19:39	mircea_popescu	same problem as the touch screen :
19:39	mircea_popescu	it's really uncomfortable for humans to hold their arms extended in the air.
19:39	pankkake	indeed. and still people belive the "minority report" interface is the future
19:39	pankkake	or kinect :p
19:39	mircea_popescu	it's not.
19:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 730 @ 0.00026399 = 0.1927 BTC [-]
19:40	ThickAsThieves	its brain waves
19:40	mike_c	ultrasonic, like badbios
19:41	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6448989 = 3.2245 BTC [+]
19:42	asciilifeform	effect has a name. 'gorilla arm' syndrome.
19:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6448989 BTC [+]
19:42	asciilifeform	(what happens to a touch screen user, that is.)
19:42	mircea_popescu	yeah. loss of fine motor control as a result of inervation of the gross motor pathways.
19:42	mircea_popescu	we're really very well designed, which means economically designed.
19:43	asciilifeform	yep. same as air hammer operator's disease
19:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00599938 = 0.5759 BTC [+] {4}
19:43	asciilifeform	telegraphers (late 1890s afaik) called it 'glass arm disease'
19:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00269991 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
19:45	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.061 = 0.244 BTC [+]
19:47	mircea_popescu	(incidentally, this is also why ipads are doomed as a serious technology. no right click ? fu.)
19:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0076 = 0.38 BTC [-]
19:48	pankkake	everything apple makes is part of the conspiracy to slowly physically weaken humans
19:49	jurov	office chairs are biggest part
19:49	mircea_popescu	apple makes aerons ?
19:49	pankkake	I have to write an article about it, but keep procrastinating
19:49	dexX7	;;rate thickasthieves 3 Pleasant experience, smooth escrow service and TATI rocks!
19:49	gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user thickasthieves has been recorded.
19:49	asciilifeform	(incidentally, here's what we might have if anybody were still serious about man-machine interfaces: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861)
19:49	ThickAsThieves	aww shucks
19:49	ThickAsThieves	even after my bitching
19:49	jurov	;;rated Namworld
19:49	gribble	You have not yet rated user Namworld
19:50	jurov	;;rate Namworld 2 smooth cooperation for passthroughs unwinding
19:50	gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Namworld has been recorded.
19:50	asciilifeform	having to actually /move/ your hand is... atrocious.
19:51	pankkake	I know. I got RSI, and it never really leaves :(
19:51	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform doesn't believe in foreplay.
19:51	mircea_popescu	he doesn't rub the nubbin, he just plugs the hole.
19:51	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: foreplay here would be the learning. then a lifetime of, well, full throttle.
19:52	mircea_popescu	computers want to have fun too
19:52	jurov	i always seek to have big desk with monitor as far as possible... means whole hands resting and no RSI, foreplay or not
19:53	jurov	actually this one is inherited from my grandpa
19:54	asciilifeform	when i was young i thought programmers would eventually end up being spottable on the street by their titanic hands
19:54	asciilifeform	sort of like dock workers' biceps in the old days
19:55	asciilifeform	btw anybody suffering from 'emacs pinkie' should seriously consider: pedals.
19:55	asciilifeform	i've got a nice set here
19:55	asciilifeform	great painless way to set those 'meta' bits when you gotta.
19:56	asciilifeform	also convenient for toggling through screens, etc.
19:56	pankkake	oh, i was wondering about it actually
19:57	pankkake	perhaps as a Shift key
19:57	asciilifeform	if you're in the cockpit 12-14 hr/day, give serious thought to your widgets.
19:57	asciilifeform	you don't get a second set of limbs
19:57	pankkake	well I usually spend more on monitors, keyboards, than on the actual computer :)
19:58	pankkake	desk ergonomics are my first question to employers, before pay
19:58	asciilifeform	decent keyboard hasn't been made since ~'89 afaik.
19:59	pankkake	I don't like the buckling springs
20:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 51 @ 0.05506273 = 2.8082 BTC [-] {4}
20:00	pankkake	my keyboard is http://i.imgur.com/IUxeH.jpg kbc poker
20:00	asciilifeform	'happy hacking' ?
20:01	asciilifeform	didn't know they made those in rubber
20:01	pankkake	chinese clone with cherry mx
20:01	pankkake	much cheaper
20:01	asciilifeform	never miss the arrows?
20:01	pankkake	but I want happy hacking ones
20:01	pankkake	no, but I'm a vim user
20:01	pankkake	I have hjkl on vim and firefox at least
20:01	asciilifeform	me, i can't fathom why anyone would voluntarily forgo programmable 'F's
20:01	mircea_popescu	<asciilifeform> if you're in the cockpit 12-14 hr/day << jesus we're basically space piliots here
20:02	pankkake	well, they're often named "battlestations"
20:02	jurov	cock pits
20:02	asciilifeform	them bits won't flip themselves.
20:02	pankkake	and my mouse http://www.addedbytes.com/images/vertical-mouse.jpg
20:02	asciilifeform	found a 'chess pawn' mouse in a skip at wurk once.
20:03	dexX7	lol wtf
20:03	asciilifeform	(picture that same, but phallic / unmovable joystick shape.)
20:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.055 = 0.77 BTC [-]
20:03	pankkake	I tried a model m but I kept feeling like it would make up my neighbors
20:03	pankkake	wake*
20:04	asciilifeform	http://www.dossierd.nl/img/ap_vertical-mouse.jpg
20:04	asciilifeform	that'd be it
20:04	mircea_popescu	"Since the start, HashFast has been unequivocally committed to the idea that we will produce the highest quality product."
20:04	mircea_popescu	lettuce produce the produce!
20:04	ThickAsThieves	highest hash content
20:05	mircea_popescu	"We focus on this each and everyday [...] by finding a balance between expediency and quality."
20:05	mircea_popescu	what the ever loving fuck. how long ago did they stop teaching logic ?
20:06	ThickAsThieves	price is the balance
20:06	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8774 @ 0.00082666 = 7.2531 BTC [-] {3}
20:07	mircea_popescu	at least have the decency to ennumerate quality first if that's your "unequivocal comittment"
20:07	asciilifeform	when i read these pitches, i can't help but recall: "...Filtration System A Marvel to Behold! It Removes Eighty Percent of Human Solid Waste!"
		↖ ↖
20:07	ThickAsThieves	cut the body form the head?
20:07	ThickAsThieves	from*
20:08	asciilifeform	http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070925133821AA5DtrM
20:08	ozbot	The lyrics of Kazakhistan national anthem of BORAT? - Yahoo Answers
20:09	mircea_popescu	it would be cool if borat and ali g each started their own asic miner company
20:09	mircea_popescu	and then i could make a bitbet about it
20:11	KRS1	I kinda thought borat = ali g.
20:11	mircea_popescu	well it's baron cohen
20:11	mircea_popescu	playing both
20:11	KRS1	OK thats what I thought. Ali G is awesome
20:14	dexX7	http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3255-55nm-chip-500-count-reel/ and then https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=305968.0 x_x
20:14	ozbot	Avalon ASIC | A3255 – 55nm Chip – 500 count Reel
20:16	mircea_popescu	"I hope that the person who won the auction make available for the community part of the chips from reel at a reasonable price.
20:16	mircea_popescu	I'd love to redeem, if the price is attractive."
20:16	mircea_popescu	by now "the community" = the group of people who;'d want freebies at other's expense.
20:17	mircea_popescu	i blame the usg and fdr for this particularly niggardly redefinition of community.
20:17	ThickAsThieves	Neo & Bee Official Updates Nov. 1, 2013 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3460464#msg3460464
20:18	asciilifeform	'community' typically conceived as meaning 'jokers like me'.
20:18	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6448989 BTC [+]
20:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00269998 = 0.621 BTC [+]
20:21	KRS1	did somebody say free
20:23	nubbins`	you don't see the word "niggardly" used often in conversation
20:23	mircea_popescu	you don't see any of the ~20k english words outside of the "retard 200" used often in covernsation.
20:24	nubbins`	now there's an idea for a poster
20:24	asciilifeform	nubbins`: this actually exists. 'basic english' if i recall.
20:25	nubbins`	yeah, there's a wikipedia written in simple english
20:25	asciilifeform	somebody crapped out a 'standard' for it
20:25	nubbins`	http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
20:25	nubbins`	1000 most common words
20:25	nubbins`	relevant xkcd, one sec
20:26	nubbins`	http://xkcd.com/1133/
20:26	ozbot	xkcd: Up Goer Five
20:26	asciilifeform	anybody remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncleftish_Beholding ?
20:26	mircea_popescu	aye.
20:26	nubbins`	(eplained using only the ten hundred words people use the most often)
20:27	mircea_popescu	also "simple" means "retarded" among other things.
20:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 31 @ 0.054 = 1.674 BTC [-]
20:28	asciilifeform	https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.language.artificial/ZL4e3fD7eW0/_7p8bKwLJWkJ
20:29	asciilifeform	"Thus, water is a binding of two waterstuff unclefts
20:29	asciilifeform	with one sourstuff uncleft, while a bulkbit of one of the
20:29	asciilifeform	forestuffs making up flesh may have a thousand thousand or more
20:29	asciilifeform	unclefts of these two firststuffs together with coalstuff and
20:29	asciilifeform	chokestuff."
20:29	nubbins`	ha
20:30	mircea_popescu	;;google trilema uncleftish
20:30	gribble	No matches found.
20:30	mircea_popescu	o get out.
20:30	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/experimente-lingvistice/
20:30	ozbot	Experimente lingvistice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:32	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0059867 = 0.1676 BTC [+]
20:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13388 @ 0.00021 = 2.8115 BTC [-] {3}
20:34	asciilifeform	"This end should point toward the ground if you want to go to space. If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today."
20:35	asciilifeform	there's a bit of a general-purpose lesson here...
20:36	mircea_popescu	where's that from ?
20:37	asciilifeform	http://xkcd.com/1133/
20:37	ozbot	xkcd: Up Goer Five
20:37	asciilifeform	(from nubbins, above)
20:39	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00083083 = 10.5482 BTC [+] {3}
20:41	mircea_popescu	oh i c hehe
20:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.6448989 = 3.8694 BTC [+]
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21:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
21:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269998 = 0.135 BTC [+]
21:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00269998 = 0.3105 BTC [+]
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21:23	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269991 = 0.135 BTC [-]
21:28	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Put a bet up, first to go up 5x in value from today. Bitcoin or Litecoin?
21:29	pankkake	submit something to http://bitbet.us/ and I'll bet
21:30	pankkake	in value compared to what?
21:31	skinnkavaj	pankkake: What do you think, nipples?
21:31	pankkake	ripples? :)
21:31	skinnkavaj	Dicks?
21:31	mircea_popescu	"bitcoin will reach 1000 usd before litecoin will reach 50 cents again" ?
21:31	skinnkavaj	No the poll should be
21:32	skinnkavaj	What will go in ten times in fiat value from today, bitcoin or litecoin?
21:32	skinnkavaj	+up
21:32	pankkake	another issue is that you don't need a lot of volume to make those things move (perhaps restrict to a minimum volume)
21:32	skinnkavaj	Fastest.
21:32	pankkake	I guess you could use btc-e as a source, it has both exchangeable to fiat
21:32	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Lol, yeah go ahead try to start pump LTC on btc-e
21:32	skinnkavaj	Try it
21:32	pankkake	http://bitbet.us/bet/524/litecoin-to-rise-above-04-btc-before-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK by the way
21:33	ozbot	BitBet - Litecoin to rise above .04 BTC before 2014
21:33	skinnkavaj	pankkake: That's not the bet I am after
21:33	pankkake	well it did see wild swings these last few days
21:33	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Wild swings, yeah 0.1-0.3 USD
21:33	mircea_popescu	what's ltc atm, about .01 btc ?
21:34	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: Yes
21:34	mircea_popescu	so then there you have it. that bet only asks for ltc to go up 4x raher than 5x
21:34	mircea_popescu	and for that matter odds against it are like 10:1
21:34	mircea_popescu	go get rich.
21:34	pankkake	it moved a few times between .008 BTC and 0.012 BTC if I'm not mistaken
21:34	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: Wrong bet
21:34	skinnkavaj	I am asking from todays date
21:35	mircea_popescu	makes exactly 0 difference.
21:35	skinnkavaj	What is going to go up 10x in value first, bitcoin or litecoin?
21:35	skinnkavaj	Fiat value
21:35	skinnkavaj	Yes it does.
21:35	skinnkavaj	I think bitcoin will rise 400%
21:35	skinnkavaj	Litecoin 1000%
21:35	skinnkavaj	Based on todays USD rates.
21:36	mircea_popescu	so basically ltc = 0.025 btc.
21:36	mircea_popescu	i dunno anyone cares enough to bet on that one. seems like random noise.
21:36	KRS1	yes
21:36	KRS1	random
21:37	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: No, if LTC go up 10x in value today it will be 0.1 LTC/BTC, not 0.25 LTC/BTC.
21:37	pankkake	if bitcoin value stays right where it is
21:37	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Yes, but as stated. I want the bet to be in USD value.
21:38	mircea_popescu	skinnkavaj dude stop drowning yourself in words. if you think ltc will go up as high as 0.04 btc, you can take the 10:1 odds against on that bet and make out like a pirate.
21:38	mircea_popescu	if you don't, you don't, we all agree, nobody cares. move on.
21:38	KRS1	everyone has an opinion..mine is that the hype will die off and it will slowly die to under a buck and stay there for years
21:38	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: Lol, pussy.
21:38	skinnkavaj	Guess you are too afraid to put up that bet.
21:38	pankkake	lol
21:38	mircea_popescu	KRS1 ltc around 1 usd ain't hurting anything. on the contrary, puts the greenback in its proper perspective.
21:38	kakobrekla	O_O
21:38	mircea_popescu	that's what the dollar is, a sort of ltc.
21:39	KRS1	right
21:39	KRS1	but i was referring to all virt currency
21:39	mircea_popescu	yet another anon altcoin. this one made by the us.
21:42	skinnkavaj	Listen to mircea_popescu he has the ugliest interface joke security exchange that recently got hacked even though "Failing last since 2011"
21:42	pankkake	btctctc never got hacked?
21:42	skinnkavaj	No
21:43	mircea_popescu	eh go bark up niederaurer's tree.
21:43	mircea_popescu	how do i end up with all the deluded ninnies.
21:43	kakobrekla	skinnkavaj cause graphic matter when one is moving money.
21:44	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: You partnered up with one deluded girlfriend
21:44	skinnkavaj	kakobrekla: cause security does not matter when "Failing last since 2011"
21:44	kakobrekla	skinnkavaj you are making yourself look silly.
21:45	skinnkavaj	kakobrekla: Defending your partner in crime
21:46	skinnkavaj	Stop it
21:46	kakobrekla	only cause he pays so good.
21:46	KRS1	who cares about niceties it works really well and thats all that matters
21:47	skinnkavaj	KRS1: Living in stone age
21:47	skinnkavaj	With both stone age security and design
21:47	skinnkavaj	Hiring retarded MPOE-PR staff
21:47	kakobrekla	someone is jelly.
21:48	skinnkavaj	Someone got in to bed with the wrong person about security
21:48	skinnkavaj	and now defending him here
21:48	skinnkavaj	LOL
21:48	kakobrekla	do you use pgp?
21:48	pankkake	a good thing to do is to try to understand why are things that way
21:48	pankkake	or as mpoe-pr says "lurk moar"
21:49	skinnkavaj	kakobrekla: Yes, why do you ask
21:49	kakobrekla	just trying to understand at which point your logic fails
21:50	skinnkavaj	pankkake: mpex is not even secure, you should place "Hacked since 2013"
21:50	dexX7	betting on btc volume is stupid when there are more than one chinese btc exchange with zero fees atm
21:51	dexX7	highscore was something like 100k for one day
21:51	skinnkavaj	If it wasn't for hiring MPOE-PR as staff I wouldn't bash on mircea_popescu for having bad security
21:51	dexX7	(on one specific exchange)
21:51	skinnkavaj	dexX7: Who sad anything about volume?
21:52	dexX7	oh sorry, you're right. i read value = volume in the first sentence
21:52	pankkake	fuck, I now own 0.005
21:52	pankkake	LTC
21:52	skinnkavaj	Welcome
21:52	skinnkavaj	The grass is greener here
21:52	pankkake	and worse, it's on ripple!
21:52	kakobrekla	lol
21:53	skinnkavaj	Piratebay and Wikipedia accept LTC and LTC is going to die out soon!? LOL
21:54	skinnkavaj	Wikileaks*
21:54	skinnkavaj	Wikipedia is too retarded
21:54	skinnkavaj	To accept crypto currencies
21:55	pankkake	I think i'll donate in fiat anyway, because it can get me a tax break
21:55	kakobrekla	the thing is, exchangeing from one cc to another cc is way easier than for merchant or service provider to accept all 463 of them
21:58	pankkake	skinnkavaj: http://i.imgur.com/MJrJF6Q.png
21:58	pankkake	I would have exchanged to btc but the order book was almost empty
21:58	kakobrekla	you use that shit?
21:58	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Why are you using premined scam?
21:58	pircea_momescu	skinnkavaj it's a scam !
21:58	pankkake	not really, I use it to get free bitcoins
21:59	pankkake	kakobrekla: I wrote a script to farm a giveaway
21:59	kakobrekla	classy.
21:59	skinnkavaj	pircea_momescu: What is a scam?
21:59	pircea_momescu	skinnkavaj it's a scam !
21:59	pankkake	I've sold most of past giveaways for btc
22:00	kakobrekla	seriously nothing better to do with your time?
22:00	pankkake	not really :/
22:00	pankkake	I have excuses
22:00	skinnkavaj	Ripple is a scam yes
22:00	kakobrekla	:)
22:01	pankkake	is Ripple a scam?
22:01	pircea_momescu	pankkake ripple is a scam !
22:01	skinnkavaj	Ripple is premined
22:01	KRS1	premined to all hell as i have read it
22:02	skinnkavaj	And centralized.
22:02	KRS1	that too
22:02	pankkake	but the real question, is litecoin a scam
22:02	pircea_momescu	pankkake litecoin is a scam !
22:02	skinnkavaj	I am not even suprised people like pankkake think ripple is good
22:02	skinnkavaj	I don't expect more from you
22:02	asciilifeform	http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/us/silicon-valley-roused-by-secession-call.html?_r=0
22:03	pankkake	skinnkavaj: lurk moar. I've spent plenty of time on ripple threads
22:04	pankkake	most people defending ripple don't understand it and just want to sell their overpriced XRP
22:04	skinnkavaj	pankkake: What a waste of time. You only have to spend 30 minutes of reading to understand that it is both centralised and premined. And if you still think it's good, I will not even bother to argue with you. Then I really have to declare you retarded.
22:04	kakobrekla	skinnkavaj: lurk moar. < listen to this
22:05	pankkake	asciilifeform: interesting
22:05	kakobrekla	a 350th rehash of the matter
22:05	kakobrekla	re nytimes
22:06	mike_c	asciilifeform you just made me dumber. thanks.
22:06	skinnkavaj	Is pircea_momescu some troll hired by mircea_popescu?
22:06	pankkake	I'd be surprised if those hipsters ever seceeded though
22:06	mike_c	"The Quantified Self movement helps people self-measure and opt out of the health care system"
22:06	pankkake	skinnkavaj: it's a bot I wrote, aimed at replacing mircea_popescu entirely. so far it only has a few triggers
22:07	kakobrekla	lol
22:07	mike_c	hm, so when i quantify that I have an infection I can.. get my prescription how?
22:07	skinnkavaj	pankkake: Yeah he and MPOE-PR can be replaced by a bot
22:07	kakobrekla	skinnkavaj your troll skills suck.
22:07	skinnkavaj	I am a qualified Anti Troll Combat Specalist
22:08	kakobrekla	you mean Anti Combat Troll Specialist?
22:08	asciilifeform	mike_c: that piece is definitely 'cringe material'.
22:08	mike_c	so bad
22:09	kakobrekla	like that mps nuke that instead of hurting, it heals people.
22:13	BingoBoingo	;;
22:16	BingoBoingo	skinnkavaj: I still think I was right to dump LTC at 0.0015
22:17	pankkake	well obviously as you can buy more with the same amount of btc now
22:17	BingoBoingo	LTC might have hope if the wrong kind of people weren't shilling it
22:17	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: LTC hums along until somebody remembers that you can plug RAM into an ASIC.
22:17	pankkake	in other news, yet another scrypt alcoin was 51% attacked
22:18	mircea_popescu	dude all the highlights
22:18	mircea_popescu	what happened hiar
22:18	asciilifeform	i tell you, programmable werkfunctions are the altcoinfuture.
22:19	asciilifeform	('tis that or slavecoin.)
22:19	pankkake	how do you prevent an attack by computers you can rent by the hour?
22:19	pankkake	(or the minute, for primecoin)
22:19	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Of course. Most Altcoins die on social rather than technological grounds anyway.
22:20	asciilifeform	pankkake: how do you prevent an attack by incoming MIRV ICBM?
22:20	BingoBoingo	Cablepair and Finshaggy killed Devcoin.
22:20	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "roused". i lolled.
22:20	kakobrekla	Devcoin? Devcoin killed devcoin.
22:21	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: It seems you avoid MIRV ICBM packages by living somewhere boring, but not too much so. A lot of missiles are still in Kansas and Montana.
22:21	BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: It was flawed from the start. Its death was accelerated though.
22:21	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: that would make K and M 'interesting', wouldn't it.
22:22	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Not particularly when Missouri and Wisconsin have more fusible material to seize.
22:22	mircea_popescu	"In practice, this vision calls for building actual communities that would be beyond the reach of the state that Silicon Valley’s libertarians despise."
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22:23	pankkake	you made my bot crash
22:23	asciilifeform	point is, some things you don't prevent, you just live with them - and try to set up a world where they aren't especially tempting.
22:23	pankkake	invalid unicode
22:23	kakobrekla	pankkake is what he does.
22:23	mircea_popescu	incidentally, https://www.google.com/search?q=pircea+mopescu&complete=0
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22:23	mircea_popescu	romanian haterz have a history of calling me that.
22:24	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2013#366076 <<< assbot suffered too.
22:24	ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log
22:24	mircea_popescu	but unlike your bot, assbot is failing last since 2012.
22:24	kakobrekla	:D
22:24	asciilifeform	http://beautifuldecay.com/2013/06/07/the-obsessively-detailed-linocut-portraits-of-mircea-popescu/
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22:24	ozbot	The Obsessively Detailed Linocut Portraits Of Mircea Popescu - Beautiful/Decay Artist & Design
22:24	asciilifeform	MP, that you?
22:25	mircea_popescu	nah.
22:32	mircea_popescu	Not everyone in technology wants to flee, though. Catherine Bracy, director of community organizing at Code for America, criticized this genre of thinking as reflecting a simple lack of exposure by many Valley engineers: “Most of them aren’t confronted with or don’t have an understanding of most problems regular people are facing. If they had to collect food stamps or ride the bus or send their kid to public scho
22:32	mircea_popescu	ol, they might be more empathetic to the role that government plays in people’s lives and more interested in fixing those problems than opting out.”
22:33	mircea_popescu	herp. the leeches are displeased with this talk of being cut off!
22:34	asciilifeform	'Big fleas have little fleas, / Upon their backs to bite 'em, / And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so, ad infinitum...'
22:35	mircea_popescu	it's funny tho. "what do you mean we're not sucking these p[eople's cocks enough, and the solution is for all the "people" to spend a lot more time on their hands and knees worshipping them ?!?!?!"
22:35	mircea_popescu	"no, they SHOULD spend their time fixing our problems. cause we have problems. derp!"
22:36	mircea_popescu	"because empathy!!!1"
22:36	Ademan	wat
22:36	asciilifeform	'And the great fleas, themselves, in turn / Have greater fleas to go on; / While these again have greater still, / And greater still, and so on...'
22:37	mircea_popescu	i temporarily forget what the equivalent of empathy was. "for the greater glory of the soviets" or something
22:37	asciilifeform	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ICS21RWrg
22:37	ozbot	Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em. - YouTube
22:39	Ademan	Helping people is fine, taking other people's shit to do it on the other hand...
22:44	mircea_popescu	Ademan helping other people is only fine if you feel like it.
22:44	mircea_popescu	if they feel like it it's quite the epitome of unfine.
22:44	mircea_popescu	“ ’ .”
22:45	mircea_popescu	pankkake there, you fixed it.
22:45	pankkake	yeah. at least I learned a bit more about that lib
22:46	pankkake	(and why other people complained about it :p)
22:50	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 18663 @ 0.0002 = 3.7326 BTC [+]
22:51	skinnkavaj	So excited
22:51	skinnkavaj	mcxNOW 0.4 btc fee shares never gonna sell out
22:53	skinnkavaj	and so obvious LTC is going for 0.1 LTC/BTC
22:54	mircea_popescu	$vwap s.mg
22:54	mpexbot	mircea_popescu: S.MG 1 day: average: 0.0002 high: 0.0002 low: 0.0002 volume: 18663 btc: 3.7326 7 day: average: 0.0002 high: 0.0002 low: 0.0002 volume: 20000 btc: 4.0 30 day: average: 0.0001905 high: 0.0002 low: 0.00018 volume: 38100 btc: 7.25801
22:55	mircea_popescu	i guess people found greyhawk
23:02	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00269998 = 0.945 BTC [+]
23:05	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 12800 @ 0.0001795 = 2.2976 BTC [-]
23:09	bloctoc	doubtful given the painful install. probably just needs the money to buy ripples.
23:12	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00082613 = 0.1867 BTC [-]
23:21	mircea_popescu	bloctoc you mean eulora ?
23:22	bloctoc	yes - isn't greyhawk the old dude from eulora that sounds like uncle jessie?
23:23	mircea_popescu	something like that yeah.
23:23	mircea_popescu	so why's it painful ?
23:25	bloctoc	can't find install instructions in the readme for one. after finding launch.sh from a post months ago, it crashes on some missing dependency but I didn't see a list of deps in the readme I'm not asking for help, just answering the question. I'm sure greyhawk will be there once I get the thing running.
23:26	mircea_popescu	well i'm sort of in the business of making it less painful.
23:26	bloctoc	… and that's why I answered.
23:26	mircea_popescu	so did you download the v3 ?
23:28	bloctoc	yes, this morning. I'm not on a linux machine at the moment. I'll try again in the morning, just not into troubleshooting just right now. I'll let you know how it goes with greyhawk.
23:28	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00269998 = 0.1296 BTC [+]
23:29	Namworld	[22:51] <skinnkavaj> mcxNOW 0.4 btc fee shares never gonna sell out
23:29	Namworld	[22:53] <skinnkavaj> and so obvious LTC is going for 0.1 LTC/BTC
23:29	mircea_popescu	right, cause that should include a .sh in there. but anyway, when you get to it.
23:29	Namworld	This not be #litecoin-pricetalk
23:30	Namworld	0.1 is high as fuck...
23:31	Vexual	Haliaeetus leucogaster
23:38	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
23:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.36489994 = 3.649 BTC [+]
23:49	mike_c	eulora is 800mb already? whoa.
23:49	Vexual	monkeys exist time/monkeys have computers time <<< earth exists time/earth has monkeys time
23:51	mircea_popescu	mike_c most of it is cruft tbh
23:51	mircea_popescu	we've not done a serious scrubbing yet.
23:53	Vexual	replace the word computer with bitcoin and calculate the lowest blockheight for which the statement is true
23:54	mike_c	do you ever plan to work out of github? or just occasionally update the code you have on there.
23:55	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]
23:58	Vexual	genesis, 1, 2 or 3
23:59	Ademan	pankkake: I saw you commented on bASIC-MINING, do you know what's going on there?

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