| 00:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3375 @ 0.00085504 = 2.8858 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 131 @ 0.002 = 0.262 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 00:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 511 @ 0.00568 = 2.9025 BTC [-] |
| 00:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7839 @ 0.0008602 = 6.7431 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:49 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/aTkQXFa |
| 00:49 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 00:50 |
nubbins` |
rough draft |
| 00:53 |
nubbins` |
idea is to make it look sort of similar to an old-style bearer bond |
| 00:53 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Maybe keep the GPG signed contracts in their native file format? |
| 00:53 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo: this is more for show than anything |
| 00:54 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Well, then. |
| 00:54 |
nubbins` |
this would be silkscreened onto nice 100% cotton paper |
| 00:55 |
nubbins` |
skeuomorphism at its finest :P |
| 00:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Beautiful nubbins` but generally cotton paper of archival quality is paired with ink to last rather than color to look good |
| 00:57 |
nubbins` |
i know, this is what i do for a living ;) |
| 00:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Silkscreening paper kind of sucks generally too. |
| 00:58 |
nubbins` |
you can silkscreen on any sort of paper. we use acid-free archival rag |
| 00:58 |
Vexual |
cute cert |
| 00:58 |
nubbins` |
speedball products, these are not :) |
| 00:59 |
Vexual |
are those hops leaves at the top? |
| 01:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07499999 = 0.3 BTC [-] |
| 01:01 |
nubbins` |
similar, but no |
| 01:03 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/G4P4p3H |
| 01:03 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 01:03 |
nubbins` |
"S.MG 2013" added to bottom |
| 01:03 |
nubbins` |
i wouldn't mind adding some of those spirograph-style curvy lines |
| 01:04 |
Vexual |
hops symbolise truth |
| 01:05 |
Vexual |
to me that is, im not offering some alternate history of the world |
| 01:07 |
nubbins` |
fun fact, hops and cannabis are members of the same family |
| 01:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7711 @ 0.00085527 = 6.595 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:07 |
Vexual |
i am aware of that fun fact |
| 01:07 |
Vexual |
only two known members of cannabe or whathaveyou |
| 01:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 517 @ 0.00085242 = 0.4407 BTC [-] |
| 01:09 |
Vexual |
i wonder if it was an ice age divergence? one being cold climate and one warm |
| 01:10 |
nubbins` |
who knows? interesting how they both ended up being enjoyed as intoxicants |
| 01:10 |
Vexual |
yes |
| 01:11 |
Vexual |
and vikinings tended to prefer ale where chinese preferred weed |
| 01:13 |
Vexual |
theres some symbiotic epigenetic unknown stuff happening there |
| 01:13 |
nubbins` |
i watched a documentary a while back that was about apples, tulips and weed |
| 01:13 |
nubbins` |
oh, and potatoes |
| 01:14 |
nubbins` |
on the surface, not much in common |
| 01:14 |
Vexual |
all been influenced by man? |
| 01:14 |
nubbins` |
but all have successfully spread from one small geographic area across the globe, because of their relationship to humans |
| 01:14 |
nubbins` |
exactly |
| 01:14 |
nubbins` |
http://video.pbs.org/program/botany-of-desire/ |
| 01:15 |
ozbot |
Botany of Desire | Watch Online | PBS Video |
| 01:15 |
Vexual |
genetic engineering of plants has done much less than so many generations of selective breeding |
| 01:16 |
nubbins` |
nod |
| 01:17 |
Vexual |
thats not to say new gene slpicing tools arent exciting |
| 01:18 |
nubbins` |
no, but the varieties that were around before genetic engineering could be said to have so far withstood the test of time, which isn't a trivial test |
| 01:19 |
nubbins` |
engineered varieties, who knows? |
| 01:19 |
BingoBoingo |
The only think more boring than watching grass grow just might be watching plants fuck. |
| 01:19 |
nubbins` |
i mean, it was what, a year ago? two? that it was suddenly announced "lel, whoops, BPA gives you cancer" |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1297 @ 0.00190777 = 2.4744 BTC [-] {4} |
| 01:20 |
nubbins` |
when the "lel, whoops" has the ability to grow beyond a certain scope, it becomes much less of an attractive option, in my mind |
| 01:20 |
nubbins` |
which is why i'm cautious about my optimism towards engineering |
| 01:21 |
nubbins` |
or any number of things. lel, whoops, 30,000kg of hamburger meat recalled because we contaminated it with e. coli! |
| 01:22 |
Vexual |
dna is a tricky machine |
| 01:22 |
nubbins` |
the trickiest |
| 01:23 |
Vexual |
probably the coolest too |
| 01:23 |
nubbins` |
it's pure hubris to assume you can fully understand the results of manipulating such a complex thing |
| 01:23 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 01:24 |
Vexual |
im out of touch with current tools for mapping genes |
| 01:25 |
nubbins` |
it's been so long since i even touched up on the basics, all i have left now are opinions :P |
| 01:25 |
Vexual |
same |
| 01:26 |
Vexual |
ive got half a memory of some cool shit happening that ive blocked to avoid becoming a mad scientist |
| 01:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.61428574 = 4.3 BTC [-] {3} |
| 01:27 |
Vexual |
i remember now, theres on open source software package where you can create dna with object oriented visual language |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
and you can get it printed |
| 01:29 |
Vexual |
i think they check its not airbourne swineflu or whatever |
| 01:30 |
nubbins` |
what! |
| 01:30 |
Vexual |
too many splices gets very expensive if memory serves |
| 01:30 |
nubbins` |
insane |
| 01:30 |
Vexual |
its loaded with a lot of known outcomes i think |
| 01:33 |
Vexual |
yeah genetics is still going places, people forget |
| 01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` haha investry |
| 01:34 |
nubbins` |
right?! |
| 01:38 |
Vexual |
ive sent my dna to every lab in the us |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
of course it could not really be made into a real bearer bond... |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
hm! |
| 01:40 |
nubbins` |
oh no, of course |
| 01:40 |
Vexual |
apparently im susceptable to alcoholism |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
unless, of course, it came as a cardano. in which case it COULD be a bearer instrument |
| 01:40 |
nubbins` |
Vexual: now you can't hash the result and use it as a brainwallet to store all your funds. |
| 01:41 |
nubbins` |
home sequencing is the way to go ;p |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
they're out there now tho |
| 01:41 |
mircea_popescu |
linked by imgur to nubbins` investry http://imgur.com/gallery/oZRUE |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
at least i have plausable deniability |
| 01:41 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
shopped |
| 01:42 |
nubbins` |
also linked, http://imgur.com/gallery/Tv68u |
| 01:42 |
nubbins` |
"overall, i turned my life around" |
| 01:42 |
Vexual |
needs shopping |
| 01:43 |
mircea_popescu |
he's gay now ? |
| 01:44 |
nubbins` |
i feel like there's a pun hiding in the last picture, but i can't quite find it |
| 01:46 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: more of a fancy paper wallet than anything. cardanos as bearer bonds is an interesting idea though |
| 01:47 |
nubbins` |
imagine! |
| 01:47 |
Vexual |
hey mp, if i start a genetics lab that does splices for btc, can i float for free on mpes? |
| 01:48 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 01:48 |
Vexual |
it will be an ongoing concern from the outset, repleat with bespectacled korean hotties |
| 01:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1098 @ 0.00085438 = 0.9381 BTC [+] |
| 01:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 910 @ 0.00085645 = 0.7794 BTC [+] |
| 01:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07200001 = 0.144 BTC [-] |
| 01:59 |
nubbins` |
okay, time to sleep |
| 01:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60969998 = 6.097 BTC [-] {6} |
| 01:59 |
Vexual |
ithe ipo money would be to install a manager and lab the fuck out of that shit |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00566349 = 1.4159 BTC [-] {5} |
| 02:01 |
BingoBoingo |
I can't believe I haven't though of abusing Cardanos into bearer bonds yet. |
| 02:02 |
Vexual |
maybe put a petent lawyer on the books |
| 02:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] |
| 02:07 |
Vexual |
i just saw a gecko hiding behind my toilet cistern, hows that for imagry? |
| 02:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 201 @ 0.00199999 = 0.402 BTC [+] |
| 02:09 |
Vexual |
a crazy psychiatris wrote a long book, and a normal human is expected to see a penis where a skyscraper is? |
| 02:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: Lawyers aren't that worth that much or I would have hired one without a drive through for their office. |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
patent lawyers are gold bullion |
| 02:13 |
Vexual |
by volume |
| 02:13 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm not sure Vexual, I mean we are all pink on the inside... |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
true enough, and time marches on |
| 02:15 |
Vexual |
but money is money |
| 02:15 |
Vexual |
as the finance experts will tell you |
| 02:15 |
Vexual |
and most is what is true of dollars is true of bitcoin |
| 02:17 |
Vexual |
*for |
| 02:19 |
Vexual |
bitcoin is still in the real of philosiphers |
| 02:19 |
Vexual |
not yet a science |
| 02:19 |
Vexual |
perhaps an art |
| 02:21 |
Vexual |
you can copy paste something from wikipedia, or imagine it through the eyes of your favourite ancient author |
| 02:22 |
Vexual |
but money talks and bullshit walks, as willful man will tell |
| 02:25 |
Vexual |
for those who are unfamiliar with the internation, ill give you this piece |
| 02:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4633 @ 0.00085234 = 3.9489 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0057 = 0.57 BTC [+] |
| 02:26 |
Vexual |
ive rode a wild bull round round a yard to win a five pound bet |
| 02:26 |
Vexual |
but this is sure the derndest ride that ive encountered yet |
| 02:27 |
Vexual |
ill give that two wheeled outlaw best, it's shaken all my nerve |
| 02:28 |
Vexual |
To feel it whistle through the air and plunge and buck and swerve |
| 02:28 |
Vexual |
but what ill sit while hide will hold and girths and straps are tight |
| 02:29 |
Vexual |
i'll ride this here two wheeled concern right straight away at sight |
| 02:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00084647 = 2.1585 BTC [-] |
| 02:32 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9mxhayU7GA |
| 02:32 |
ozbot |
Damian "Jr Gong" Marley - Old War Chant (Mr. Marley) - YouTube |
| 02:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.0058 = 0.3828 BTC [+] |
| 02:36 |
BingoBoingo |
I guess I'll warn anyone invested in Bitcoinsports.eu that this is an active betslip I own http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/6d7fa?destination=bet-slip |
| 02:39 |
Vexual |
i just got an unusual sign of regression |
| 02:40 |
Vexual |
but i doubt its related to the bitcoin dollar price |
| 02:41 |
Vexual |
it was a bird i havent seen for a year |
| 02:42 |
Vexual |
always tied in two |
| 02:42 |
Vexual |
she shat on the floor |
| 02:45 |
Vexual |
then she took off on black and white wings |
| 02:51 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJFaUqwuQY |
| 02:51 |
ozbot |
Afroman - Hungry Hustler - YouTube |
| 02:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: Bitcoin Dollar price will be irrelevant in not less than a year. Before long the importance will reverse. |
| 02:56 |
Vexual |
thats why i have no idea how to sell |
| 02:56 |
Vexual |
ill wait til i can buy something i want |
| 02:56 |
BigBitz |
I will buy your coin from you :) |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
you got a large parcel of fruitful land? |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyVZFJGX5g |
| 02:57 |
ozbot |
Black Sabbath - Paranoid(1970 - Music Video) - YouTube |
| 02:57 |
BigBitz |
I do not. I have cash :) |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
if its usd, you can save your keyboard strokes |
| 02:57 |
BigBitz |
USD lol |
| 02:58 |
BigBitz |
GBP ftw |
| 02:58 |
Vexual |
yuan perhaps |
| 02:58 |
BigBitz |
Sure I can get you JPY :) |
| 02:58 |
Vexual |
fuck off with your fake money |
| 02:58 |
BigBitz |
... |
| 02:59 |
Vexual |
no really im not selling |
| 02:59 |
BigBitz |
keep holding. |
| 02:59 |
BigBitz |
keep strong. |
| 02:59 |
Vexual |
im looking for some nice acres, anywhere |
| 03:00 |
BigBitz |
you must have a lot of bitcoin :) |
| 03:00 |
Vexual |
2 bitcoin will buy a nice acxre in 10 years |
| 03:00 |
BigBitz |
Hopefully :) |
| 03:00 |
BigBitz |
bbl. |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
at todays land prices |
| 03:02 |
Vexual |
more billion humans gonna want more food |
| 03:03 |
Vexual |
life gets cheaper, prices get steeper, that s the future boys |
| 03:05 |
BingoBoingo |
I'll be honest. I would part with some coin soon for a Dodge Stealth in decent condition. |
| 03:06 |
Vexual |
:) |
| 03:06 |
Vexual |
sounds nice |
| 03:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Vexual: The thing is I'd have to find the sort of redneck who has both a Dodge Stealth to sell and an awareness of what Bitcoin is. |
| 03:07 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYiQ2FVG8I |
| 03:07 |
ozbot |
The Black Eyed Peas - Weekend ft. Esthero - YouTube |
| 03:08 |
Vexual |
nice cars are tempting, but they dont make income aunless one is a limo driver |
| 03:09 |
Vexual |
im not rich enough to spend 30k on 4 wheels |
| 03:10 |
Vexual |
i like to keep a car with no ecu in case of emp |
| 03:12 |
Vexual |
also incase real style is required |
| 03:15 |
Vexual |
buy an old 70's mustang and make it nice with extra money you stupid american fuck |
| 03:17 |
Vexual |
a two door 70s ford is no less than 50 in australia |
| 03:18 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5QYYlfXQFk |
| 03:18 |
ozbot |
Mad Max chase - YouTube |
| 03:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+] |
| 03:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114889 = 1.1489 BTC [-] |
| 03:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] |
| 03:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00114889 = 0.5744 BTC [-] |
| 03:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 101 @ 0.00114889 = 0.116 BTC [-] |
| 03:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7781 @ 0.00084458 = 6.5717 BTC [-] |
| 03:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62989997 = 1.8897 BTC [+] |
| 03:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62989997 = 1.8897 BTC [+] |
| 03:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62989997 BTC [+] |
| 03:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00084544 = 4.6744 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 19 @ 0.0079 = 0.1501 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 04:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.075 = 0.375 BTC [+] |
| 04:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 492 @ 0.00114889 = 0.5653 BTC [-] {3} |
| 04:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.62982726 = 6.9281 BTC [-] {3} |
| 04:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 342 @ 0.00109767 = 0.3754 BTC [-] {10} |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 05:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00565657 = 0.5939 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 05:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17236 @ 0.00014718 = 2.5368 BTC [+] {4} |
| 05:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62998 BTC [+] |
| 05:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00084324 = 2.6562 BTC [-] |
| 06:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.00108501 = 0.1031 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 06:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.002 = 1 BTC [+] |
| 06:21 |
jurov |
http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/ |
| 06:21 |
ozbot |
Time to let the cat out of the hat. : SilkroadUNcensored |
| 06:22 |
jurov |
another lulzy piece how proactive is btc community toward scammers, silkroad edition |
| 06:23 |
jurov |
and much more |
| 06:23 |
davout |
jurov: scam hunting is good |
| 06:23 |
davout |
it keeps retards busy |
| 06:24 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov interesting. |
| 06:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00108501 = 0.1085 BTC [-] |
| 06:26 |
mircea_popescu |
What was even more interesting, was that the notice used a high quality logo unable to be found by anyone else despite an hour of searching, until a random user popped in and said “I found it in 2 minutes by using Google.“ No, you did not. I spent 30 minutes staring at Google images, and I found nothing. |
| 06:26 |
mircea_popescu |
funny how the dork mind works. "i can't do shit therefore shit can't be done stop lying to me!!11" |
| 06:27 |
davout |
"His nose is constantly being edited." --> the jews, always the jews |
| 06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"The mouth which comes from this photo is one shameful mistake." whay ?! |
| 06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
was silkroad built atop a hill ? |
| 06:29 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the "wrong guy" suspicions aren't entirely without merit, even if reddit makes a typically redditarded soup out of it. |
| 06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"The FBI has not made a single official comment via any of their press channels. The FBI media relations team has updated nearly every day before" ahahah forum mentality, i think the government is a scam because it hasn't posted in the thread for a week!!1 |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 06:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 258 @ 0.00108 = 0.2786 BTC [-] {3} |
| 07:00 |
KRS1 |
heh |
| 07:02 |
KRS1 |
is bitkoins.com really the #1 Bitcoin news and forum site |
| 07:05 |
mircea_popescu |
totally. |
| 07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
godaddy domain Registered OnMarch 30, 2013. so it has to be. |
| 07:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62998 = 1.26 BTC [+] |
| 07:09 |
KRS1 |
never heard of it heh |
| 07:11 |
krlbrgmn |
mircea_popescu re: http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ "A good chunk of the recent hashpower is split roughly evenly between the Chinese and the US government." |
| 07:11 |
krlbrgmn |
mircea_popescu can you please give more hints? |
| 07:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00083981 = 4.535 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 07:28 |
KRS1 |
you might have to ask him for a complimentary Trilema subscription, there are hints in there from time to time. |
| 07:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00084216 = 1.8949 BTC [+] |
| 07:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-] |
| 07:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.002 = 2 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:50 |
mircea_popescu |
krlbrgmn not atm |
| 07:51 |
kakobrekla |
http://imgur.com/2ISD5dB |
| 07:51 |
ozbot |
...I accept nothing. - Imgur |
| 07:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00084287 = 2.36 BTC [+] {3} |
| 07:52 |
mircea_popescu |
good one |
| 07:59 |
mircea_popescu |
<BingoBoingo> adis99: I'm kind of wondering why they allowed such a puny bet to be protected from market forces. << mod just forgot private bets need 10btc in zeroconf. |
| 08:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00566 = 0.1075 BTC [-] |
| 08:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 08:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 358 @ 0.002 = 0.716 BTC [+] |
| 08:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00083975 = 4.3247 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00084452 = 1.0979 BTC [+] |
| 08:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00083917 = 4.5315 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:47 |
kakobrekla |
Sorry kakobrekla, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum. |
| 08:47 |
kakobrekla |
Reposting deleted posts (60 days) |
| 08:48 |
kakobrekla |
you know, i wouldnt have to be reposting if the idiots wouldnt be deleting. |
| 08:49 |
kleeck |
http://www.sadtrombone.com/?play=true |
| 08:49 |
ozbot |
Sad Trombone |
| 08:49 |
pankkake |
Congratulations! |
| 08:51 |
kakobrekla |
thanks! |
| 08:51 |
davout |
being banned from the forums sounds like a promotion! |
| 08:52 |
kleeck |
Yeah... reposting. SO HARD. SO NOBLE. |
| 08:53 |
TomServo |
!jd |
| 08:53 |
assbot |
Just-Dice stat: 5405 BTC profit, 59.2k BTC invested, 197.69 mio bets, 4.24 mio BTC wagered |
| 08:54 |
kakobrekla |
deleting a scam accusation makes the deleter an accomplice/shill |
| 08:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6101 = 6.101 BTC [-] |
| 09:05 |
samson_ |
I see Cryptsy.com is offering 100,000 shares (20% of company) on cryptostocks.com in an IPO with no expiry date for 0.05 BTC each - listed yesterday by the looks of it |
| 09:05 |
pankkake |
altcoins dying? time to sell the company! |
| 09:06 |
Apocalyptic |
^^ |
| 09:06 |
VanCleef |
i only invest in PIF and Amythest |
| 09:06 |
samson_ |
Apparently they are going to apply for licensing so they can sell coins for USD |
| 09:06 |
samson_ |
All coins including BTC |
| 09:06 |
pankkake |
and they value themselves at 25000 BTC, sure :) |
| 09:06 |
samson_ |
never mind the alts - it's a way into BTC |
| 09:07 |
samson_ |
Well that's the issue - it looks a bit overpriced |
| 09:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00566001 = 0.5094 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:07 |
pankkake |
I don't even see how they are going to complete raising 5000 BTC |
| 09:07 |
samson_ |
me neither |
| 09:08 |
pankkake |
worst of all, why aren't they using their own websites to sell the shares? |
| 09:08 |
samson_ |
I would normally buy some as the value would probably go up anyway but with no end date listed for the IPO price they might not sell all 100,000 and that would fix the price |
| 09:08 |
Apocalyptic |
pankkake, the part where most bitcoin people seem to fail the most is company/assets valuation |
| 09:09 |
samson_ |
I bought some ASICMINER shares just over a year ago, that was the last time I invested in any assets - that wasn't so bad |
| 09:10 |
bitesak |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02E4cj4Vvo#t=49 |
| 09:10 |
ozbot |
"I Support an Orwellian Police State in America" - YouTube |
| 09:10 |
bitesak |
the futures bright ! |
| 09:11 |
samson_ |
lol |
| |
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| 09:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00084452 = 2.4913 BTC [+] |
| 09:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.604975 = 24.199 BTC [-] {6} |
| 09:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 296 @ 0.00565845 = 1.6749 BTC [-] {7} |
| 09:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00553028 = 0.8351 BTC [-] {9} |
| |
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| 10:13 |
taub |
btcn more volume than gox and bitstamp last 24h ! |
| 10:13 |
taub |
are chinamen pushing the price ralley? |
| 10:13 |
Apocalyptic |
yes they are obviously |
| 10:13 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla what forum is this ? |
| 10:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.594304 = 5.943 BTC [-] {5} |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
samson_ you know tjhe story of the fraudulent ipo of cryptostocks itself righ ? |
| 10:15 |
kleeck |
Chinese Government is pushing BTC to destablize the USD further and have stronger grounds to push BRIC away from the USD. |
| 10:15 |
Apocalyptic |
i don't mircea, tell me |
| 10:15 |
kleeck |
/tinfoil hat |
| 10:15 |
mircea_popescu |
well basically the guy made an ipo of his own site, which included a hefty licensing fee to be paid to himself |
| 10:16 |
mircea_popescu |
the deal got altered after the ipo so as to vacuum most value from the supposed "investors" |
| 10:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it's all over the forum, see his ipo thread |
| 10:16 |
mircea_popescu |
provided kakobrekla didn't delete all the posts meanwhile, of course. |
| 10:16 |
Apocalyptic |
why would kako do that ? |
| 10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
kleeck yeah, totally, bric needs more reasons to move away from usd. the chinese also summoned the us ambasador in paris, i bet. |
| 10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic it's a joke, kakobrekla was complaining above he got banned for reposting deleted posts. |
| 10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously it'd be the forum administration deleting old smoking gun posts, not kakobrekla |
| 10:17 |
Apocalyptic |
ok, i've been out of the loop for a while |
| 10:18 |
Apocalyptic |
gotta catch up |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084076 = 5.0446 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00545598 = 0.3656 BTC [-] {4} |
| 10:42 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu, bitcointalk ofc. |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
what was the post anyway ? |
| 10:43 |
kakobrekla |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg3393033#msg3393033 |
| 10:43 |
ozbot |
Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on [BTC-TC] |
| 10:43 |
kakobrekla |
its still there, the 3rd version of it or whatever. |
| 10:43 |
kakobrekla |
but badbear felt butthurt when i pmed him |
| 10:43 |
kakobrekla |
that i know that he is trying to push ban for me |
| 10:44 |
kakobrekla |
and now they plan to check all pms |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
weird. |
| 10:44 |
kakobrekla |
to see who leaked that info |
| 10:44 |
kakobrekla |
cause that is unacceptable! |
| 10:44 |
kakobrekla |
lolz. |
| 10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
what info you mean ? |
| 10:45 |
kakobrekla |
the info that he is pushing ban for me in the staff department forum |
| 10:45 |
kakobrekla |
and deleting my posts. |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
it went like this |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
1. i post some stuff |
| |
↖ |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
2. it gets deleted |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
3. i re-post it |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
4. garr cries over my pm to leave britney alone |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
5. it gets deleted |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
6. i repost it |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
some stuff = ? |
| 10:47 |
kakobrekla |
7. i get info who is deleting and trying to ban me |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think you;'re getting banned here for expliciting it. |
| 10:48 |
kakobrekla |
8. i pm that douchebag that he should stop deleting to stop reposts |
| 10:48 |
kakobrekla |
9. ban |
| 10:48 |
kakobrekla |
and 10. |
| 10:48 |
kakobrekla |
drama continiues in the mod department |
| 10:48 |
Apocalyptic |
sounds like btctalk indeed |
| 10:49 |
kakobrekla |
some stuff i guess is "the slander of garr" |
| 10:49 |
kakobrekla |
as garr put it. |
| 10:49 |
kakobrekla |
im just having some morning coffee forum fun |
| 10:50 |
davout |
i can confirm that the butthurt level rose in the mod sections |
| 10:51 |
jcpham |
i can confirm i've never used btctalk in the sense of this conversation |
| 10:51 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
| 10:52 |
Apocalyptic |
davout, you still do btc-central's btc withdrawal manually ? |
| 10:53 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck cares anyway, not like that cryptowhatever is doing anything |
| 10:56 |
davout |
Apocalyptic: yes |
| 10:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00084452 = 0.8867 BTC [+] |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/09/04/shodan-terrifying-search-engine/ |
| 11:00 |
ozbot |
The Terrifying Search Engine That Finds Internet-Connected Cameras, Traffic Lights, Medical Devices, |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
that's kind of lulzy |
| 11:06 |
kakobrekla |
oh no! everything but the 'moron'! |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| |
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| 11:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00083849 = 3.6097 BTC [-] |
| 11:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62799999 BTC [+] |
| 11:55 |
bitesak |
hello |
| 11:55 |
kakobrekla |
hi |
| 12:00 |
Rulother |
hiyo |
| 12:09 |
ChaangNoi |
sawatde |
| 12:22 |
TATI |
TAT.ASICMINER migrations form Bitfunder to Havelock now open for a limited time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192498.msg3395298#msg3395298 |
| 12:22 |
TATI |
from* |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2812 @ 0.00084278 = 2.3699 BTC [+] |
| 12:26 |
dexX7 |
i assume you don't do 100x am100 -> am1 conversions? |
| 12:27 |
TATI |
nope |
| 12:27 |
bitesak |
;;ticker |
| 12:27 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 213.30515, Best ask: 215.76366, Bid-ask spread: 2.45851, Last trade: 215.76433, 24 hour volume: 27047.04154481, 24 hour low: 198.51000, 24 hour high: 216.00000, 24 hour vwap: 207.62934 |
| 12:41 |
benkay |
"None of us, none of the people in that room want to just accept these kinds of conditions written in a top-down fashion by the Foundation that is effectively today a US foundation." |
| 12:41 |
benkay |
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7643/bitcoin-in-israel-interview-with-meni-rosenfeld-and-ron-gross-part-2/ |
| 12:41 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin in Israel: Interview with Meni Rosenfeld and Ron Gross, Part 2 – Bitcoin Magazine |
| 12:42 |
benkay |
tee hee us bitcoin "foundation" rejected like a tryhard |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.627 BTC [-] |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay such a shocker. |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean nobody cares about yet another group of posers ?! but who could have imagiend this! |
| 13:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00545001 = 0.1799 BTC [-] |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00545001 = 0.1145 BTC [-] |
| 13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310985.msg3382569#msg3382569 from the lulz department. |
| 13:02 |
ozbot |
Bitfunder - no reason for a fire sale |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://mikethegoat.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/assessing-the-state-of-pgp-keys-with-phuctor/ |
| 13:05 |
ozbot |
Assessing The State Of PGP Keys With Phuctor | Mike the Crypto Goat |
| 13:07 |
dexX7 |
"the latter guy is uh, infamous in the bitcoin world" :D |
| 13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
left him a comment. |
| 13:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00083669 = 6.4425 BTC [-] {4} |
| 13:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.57751099 = 28.8755 BTC [-] {9} |
| 13:22 |
pankkake |
I'm not sure central bank governor is a good title. sounds like scammer mafia boss |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
we're troll baiting each other |
| 13:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00083662 = 2.8863 BTC [-] |
| 13:29 |
deadweasel |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/10/23/crowdfunding-ipo-sec-jobs-act/3169395/ |
| 13:29 |
ozbot |
SEC moves toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs |
| 13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 115 @ 0.0011487 = 0.1321 BTC [+] |
| 13:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
it will turn "salami" scams, where small amounts are defrauded from investors, into the new normal," |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
"This is not a good day for financially unsophisticated investors who will be targeted unrelentingly by stock promoters." |
| 13:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz invetsors never got defrauded before |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
small time is easier. many more, harder to regulate, etc. |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
but yeah |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
measure has its downsides, definitely. also kind of unavoidable. |
| 13:35 |
deadweasel |
crowdfunding americans are going to lose their shirts. |
| 13:35 |
deadweasel |
in general, we are exceedingly ignorant. |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean the borrowed shirts they currently wear ? or what "their" ? |
| 13:36 |
deadweasel |
yes, we are wearing china's old t-shirts. |
| 13:36 |
deadweasel |
they are very soft and cozy. |
| 13:36 |
deadweasel |
because sweatshop kids wore them first. |
| 13:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114852 = 0.1149 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:37 |
deadweasel |
hopefully, they will learn something and teach their kids and grandkids how to not be defrauded. but it's more likely they get drunk and beat them instead. |
| 13:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.00114987 = 0.4025 BTC [+] {4} |
| 13:39 |
pankkake |
well, kickstarter shows americans are happy to lose their money already :) |
| 13:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00114989 = 0.23 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114989 = 0.115 BTC [+] |
| 13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, what pman said |
| 13:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00545 = 0.3815 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i seriously could not believe the stats of that thing |
| 13:47 |
kakobrekla |
urlpls |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean... that in bitcoin crazy lalaland people like that scam whose name escapes me now take pride in 80% return rates is onme thing. but mainstream ? just wow. |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/07/26/board-game-creator-cans-123k-kickstarter-project-reinforces-the-platforms-accountability-issues/ |
| 13:48 |
ozbot |
No Accountability: Board Game Creator Cans $123K Kickstarter Project |
| 13:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1295 @ 0.00083584 = 1.0824 BTC [-] |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
good example. but just google kickstarter scam |
| 13:49 |
benkay |
but mircea people are basically good |
| 13:49 |
benkay |
and make smart investments |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
except they do it in the ass. |
| 13:52 |
Apocalyptic |
they male smart investments until one day they don't... |
| 13:53 |
Apocalyptic |
*make |
| 13:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00083508 = 4.0919 BTC [-] {3} |
| 14:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 31.67198172 BTC to 8`451 shares, 374772 satoshi per share |
| 14:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.380015 = 3.8002 BTC [-] |
| 14:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.572 BTC [-] |
| 14:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2458 @ 0.00114989 = 2.8264 BTC [+] |
| 14:12 |
dexX7 |
https://hashfast.com/?p=2445&preview=true "taking a few weeks longer than expected" |
| 14:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3385 @ 0.00083169 = 2.8153 BTC [-] |
| 14:12 |
ozbot |
UPDATED SHIPPING NEWS | HashFast Technologies |
| 14:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62799987 = 4.396 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00083662 = 1.0458 BTC [+] |
| 14:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00015 = 0.225 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:33 |
mod6 |
;;seen #bitcoin-assets thestringpuller |
| 14:33 |
gribble |
thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> vis-a-vis Namworld the Canadian |
| 14:34 |
mod6 |
wow. GTAV or a women has him pinned down. |
| 14:35 |
nubbins` |
hi |
| 14:36 |
phungus |
he's been absent from BitVPS as well |
| 14:36 |
phungus |
I think he's been overwhelmed by life recently |
| 14:36 |
phungus |
Namworld, that is |
| 14:37 |
mod6 |
oh |
| 14:37 |
mod6 |
is it looking for a home still? |
| 14:37 |
kakobrekla |
is he homeless? |
| 14:38 |
phungus |
BitVPS or Namworld? |
| 14:38 |
phungus |
:-) |
| 14:38 |
kakobrekla |
dunno , both |
| 14:38 |
phungus |
BitVPS == homeless as far as a share exchange goes |
| 14:38 |
phungus |
no idea about Nam |
| 14:39 |
phungus |
MPEX should offer us a sweet deal to re-list... hint hint |
| 14:39 |
mod6 |
its been mentioned |
| 14:39 |
phungus |
we would probably do it |
| 14:39 |
nubbins` |
"I wonder whether one of the team should contact one of the keyservers and request a dump of their database. " |
| 14:39 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 14:40 |
phungus |
a $6500 fee to join an exchange is a little excessive though and I'm not sure but that might be a show-stopper right there |
| 14:40 |
phungus |
lol |
| 14:40 |
phungus |
if it's still 30BTC |
| 14:41 |
phungus |
we only got delisted because rg sold the corp to us and didn't tell anyone which broke the exchange rules |
| 14:41 |
mod6 |
i rememeber vividly. |
| 14:41 |
phungus |
we're even more solid today than we were then tho |
| 14:41 |
phungus |
we own physical gear, etc |
| 14:42 |
phungus |
and have been profitable the whole year |
| 14:43 |
nubbins` |
there are mpex brokers |
| 14:43 |
nubbins` |
https://coinbr.com/about |
| 14:43 |
ozbot |
About CoinBr |
| 14:44 |
skinnkavaj |
pankkake |
| 14:44 |
skinnkavaj |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316810.0 |
| 14:44 |
ozbot |
[CRYPTOAVE.com] New BTC/DGC exchange IPO |
| 14:45 |
nubbins` |
!ticker --market bitstamp |
| 14:45 |
assbot |
Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way? |
| 14:45 |
phungus |
a Broker doesn't seem like it would help for listing |
| 14:45 |
nubbins` |
oh |
| 14:45 |
nubbins` |
;;gpg eauth nubbins` |
| 14:45 |
gribble |
Request successful for user nubbins`, hostmask nubbins`!~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134193006.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/CF2950F23C844002 |
| 14:45 |
pankkake |
whatcoin now? |
| 14:46 |
nubbins` |
phungus: no, but it would help for people buying/selling |
| 14:46 |
phungus |
yeah, I suppose so |
| 14:46 |
nubbins` |
;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:1dcbd21828071f2ba4842d8ccd3869b43616b165010a4fef2c4aa785 |
| 14:46 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user nubbins` with key CF2950F23C844002 |
| 14:46 |
nubbins` |
it's 30 btc even if you're listing? |
| 14:47 |
deadweasel |
yes |
| 14:47 |
deadweasel |
pay the man! |
| 14:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.BBET] 2145 @ 0.00063999 = 1.3728 BTC [+] |
| 14:49 |
mod6 |
you'd have to discuss listing with mp. and if bitvps was relisted, im pretty sure that at least the ceo/cfo would need to have an acct @ mpex to pay divs etc. |
| 14:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 851 @ 0.0011499 = 0.9786 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.000235 = 1.175 BTC [+] |
| 14:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3158 @ 0.00115224 = 3.6388 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:53 |
mod6 |
even if the divs can be paid through a broker, i suppose that whatever float retained by the owners would need to be held somewhere, requiring an account. |
| 14:53 |
mod6 |
verdad? |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.000648 = 3.24 BTC [+] |
| 14:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00083468 = 2.4623 BTC [-] |
| 14:56 |
the20year |
howdee |
| 14:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.00083658 = 3.4844 BTC [+] |
| 15:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 13.32992160 BTC to 374`436 shares, 3560 satoshi per share |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.001155 = 0.1929 BTC [+] |
| 15:08 |
mod6 |
if you're angla merkel, would you believe obama when he says that he's not motitoring your phone calls? |
| 15:09 |
deadweasel |
you believe whatever he tells you to believe. |
| 15:10 |
kleeck |
I just read this gem of an article. Here's a very apt quote. |
| 15:10 |
kleeck |
"Crowdfunding today is rife with examples of consumers donating money to entrepreneurs, only for those people to take the money without ever producing the product or service that was pitched." |
| 15:10 |
kleeck |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/10/23/crowdfunding-ipo-sec-jobs-act/3169395/ |
| 15:10 |
ozbot |
SEC moves toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs |
| 15:10 |
assbot |
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| 15:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7035 @ 0.00083658 = 5.8853 BTC [+] |
| 15:10 |
mod6 |
deadweasel: haha |
| 15:11 |
assbot |
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| 15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 yeah. |
| 15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
but namworld has an account iirc |
| 15:12 |
mod6 |
ah. ok |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
and no, the recent spying scandals have cost the us in europe more than what clinton has managed to build. |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
(bill clinton, that is) |
| 15:14 |
mod6 |
maybe merkel needs to fool 'em with some phonograph whitenoise records. |
| 15:15 |
mod6 |
a la cryptonomicon |
| 15:16 |
mod6 |
i wouldn't believe a goddamn word these guys say, they've always got their fingers crossed. |
| 15:16 |
assbot |
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| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
actually there's some talk of the eu making its own sigint and ditching nato |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
"russians and the us equally hostile" and so on. |
| 15:18 |
mod6 |
they certainly should. |
| 15:18 |
asciilifeform |
if dogs could speak, there would probably be talk among poodles of building their own walking parks and ditching humans. |
| 15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
except in this field the eu has more money and more human capital. |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what was the EU's answer to the U.S. demand for root privs on Galileo (EU GPS equiv.) ? |
| 15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
what year was that ? |
| 15:20 |
asciilifeform |
if i recall, the question was posed as 'give us an off switch or your sats get added to the target list.' |
| 15:20 |
asciilifeform |
couple of years ago |
| 15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
a lot has changed in those couple of years. |
| 15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
why, even last year the us could get away with kidnapping the future president of france. |
| 15:22 |
asciilifeform |
seems like the galileo people caved |
| 15:23 |
asciilifeform |
they agreed to move their freq. band away from u.s. gps, so it could be jammed separately. |
| 15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
im telling you, a lot has changed in the past ~6 months, and a lot in tjhe past 6 days. |
| 15:23 |
asciilifeform |
that's the sort of thing i was talking about. |
| 15:24 |
asciilifeform |
wake me up when they start publicly hanging us signint agents when caught in the wiring closets. |
| 15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
not likely they'll ever do that. |
| 15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the yurpeans are romantics, they've not killed a spy since forever. |
| 15:25 |
asciilifeform |
so, not poodles? maybe occasionally ill-tempered ones, but where's the bite. |
| 15:25 |
mod6 |
mara hati was the last? |
| 15:26 |
mod6 |
*hari |
| 15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what's this, infantry engagement ? spying is about information not killing people |
| 15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 mata hari was supposed to die in her bed, except they couldn't find it, so they did the next best thing : |
| 15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
tied to a pole with a bunch of dudes |
| 15:28 |
asciilifeform |
point, in that it isn't about blood per se, except to demonstrate intent. but which euro nation has banned u.s. OS on gov. hardware? |
| 15:28 |
asciilifeform |
look to me like they're happy to be pwned. |
| 15:28 |
asciilifeform |
just not publicly and loudly. |
| 15:28 |
mod6 |
is sad really. |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
that impression is a great asset im sure. |
| 15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
rivkin's protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, the us has managed to drive itself into this narrow ally where practically speaking china is it's closest ally. |
| 15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a sad state of affairs when a man can't really find a friend past his creditors. |
| 15:32 |
mod6 |
true enough, you reap what you sow. |
| 15:33 |
mod6 |
im paranoid enough as an american. they've got everyone on tap. if i was a forign int service, gov or private citizen, i'd boycott all us software, and rebuild. |
| 15:34 |
mod6 |
no reason to use the stuff that comes with backdoors from these savages. |
| 15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
fortunately the foss was always big in europe |
| 15:37 |
mod6 |
that always helps. |
| 15:38 |
mod6 |
the nsa twisting nipples in enc algos and prngs is scary though. that stuff gets widespread. |
| 15:38 |
mod6 |
not a lot of people can determine if its been diddled with or not |
| 15:39 |
mod6 |
what was the one we were talking about most recently? the ECC backdoor? |
| 15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe someone brings good quality hardware rngs to the masses. |
| 15:40 |
mod6 |
:) |
| 15:41 |
mod6 |
when that day comes, it'll be a great day for personal and ditital liberty. |
| 15:41 |
KRS1- |
doesn't their filtering/diddling cause a delay with time sensitive synchronization |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. |
| 15:44 |
mod6 |
bah, *digital |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
until everybody understands that cryptographic suitability is an entirely non-mathematical property of the bits (vs. entropic quality, an easily-quantified one) - people will be confused. |
| 15:45 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
cryptographic 'randomness' is a matter of provenance (as in this: http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php) rather than entropy per se. |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
well, actually, randomness is not a property of numbers. it's a property of processes. |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
oldest observation in the book |
| 15:46 |
mod6 |
thats the problem with hardware prng's, they can always be tampered with |
| 15:46 |
nubbins` |
haha, the color of bits re: 4'33 |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"random number" really shuld be "number obtained randomly" |
| 15:47 |
nubbins` |
that's some seriously christian-based logic right there |
| 15:47 |
nubbins` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(philosophy) |
| 15:47 |
jcpham |
christians are always right |
| 15:47 |
assbot |
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| 15:48 |
nubbins` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_theory |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` how you mean ? |
| 15:49 |
nubbins` |
i mean when you take communion, you are, in the view of the church, literally eating the body of christ |
| 15:49 |
nubbins` |
now, it looks and acts like a plain unleavened wafer |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes. |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is acquinas' idea. |
| 15:49 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 15:50 |
nubbins` |
and put into the context of 4'33 in the article asciilifeform linked |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
it's not a philosophical question at all, re: the bits. their 'security' is a function of the bits and of the enemy's brain. if he knows (or might easily learn) them, they might be entropic, but not suitable for crypto. |
| 15:50 |
nubbins` |
"this string of zeroes isn't 4'33, but THIS string of zeroes *is*" |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
the digits of 'pi' pass every test of entropy you can think of. (save one!) |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
i think you two are discussing different things |
| 15:51 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 15:51 |
nubbins` |
i didn't get more than a couple paragraphs into that article |
| 15:51 |
nubbins` |
and then i went off on a tangent |
| 15:52 |
nubbins` |
about transubstantiation :( |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i must join my recommendation to the http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php article. |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it's one of those rare bits written by a competent translator, ie, one who has solid familiarity in two different fields. |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
for the impatient: it wasn't about crypto per se, but still mandatory. |
| 15:58 |
nubbins` |
hm, i wonder if a contact mic would be useful in the context of RNGs |
| 15:58 |
nubbins` |
they're really small, and really cheap |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
for some values of useful. i prefer them to avalanche processes, but they have to be well filtered |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: not that you can't use audio as an entropy seed, but most of it is incredibly periodic |
| 16:00 |
nubbins` |
hmm |
| 16:00 |
asciilifeform |
that's not even counting non-audio signals that the amp picks up (mains hum, for one) |
| 16:00 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 16:00 |
nubbins` |
maybe more suitable in a battery-operated device |
| 16:00 |
nubbins` |
on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need |
| 16:00 |
nubbins` |
but i don't think it's quite that straight-forward |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
think of all the periodic audio where you now stand. pc fan. wind. your breath. etc |
| 16:01 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 16:01 |
nubbins` |
these things are incredibly sensitive though |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
plug it into an oscilloscope and instantly see what i meant. |
| 16:01 |
nubbins` |
well. incredibly sensitive to touch, incredibly insensitive to regular sources of sound |
| 16:02 |
nubbins` |
you can put one inside your mouth and scream, and it'll barely register |
| 16:02 |
nubbins` |
or you can rub a feather against it, and deafen yourself |
| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
<nubbins`> on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need << o no, not at all. you can't use such low bits. |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
point is, a piece of garbage that may seem 'random' to the naked eye can have all kinds of nice predictable patterns if one knows where to look. |
| 16:03 |
nubbins` |
yeah, guess that's the catch |
| 16:04 |
nubbins` |
any amplifier would introduce its own brand of consistency to the signal, &c &c |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
you're going the wrong way with the amplifiers |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
what you do is you put up a mic and sample it at 0.00000001 hz. |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
that's random enough |
| 16:04 |
mircea_popescu |
takes a while, but nevertheless. |
| 16:05 |
assbot |
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| 16:05 |
nubbins` |
noise from contact mic fed into a non-linear equation as an input variable? |
| 16:05 |
nubbins` |
just thinking out loud here |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
that's just hashing |
| 16:06 |
nubbins` |
haha |
| 16:06 |
nubbins` |
that's right |
| 16:06 |
asciilifeform |
if you're ok with a glacially-slow entropy source, just expose a DRAM chip to sunlight, with deliberately inadequate refresh cycles, wait for radiation bit-flippage. |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that's horribly biased. |
| 16:07 |
dub |
is it still going to be random if I control input into the mic? because its trvial to do that remotely |
| 16:07 |
nubbins` |
trivial? |
| 16:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as vonneumann-debiasable as anything else |
| 16:08 |
dub |
yes |
| 16:08 |
nubbins` |
i've got one in my hand right now |
| 16:08 |
nubbins` |
control its input! |
| 16:08 |
dub |
I'd need to be a bit nearer to you but its doable |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
they're almost completely insensitive to air vibrations. you'd need to have it in your hand |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
hmm |
| 16:09 |
dub |
all you need is a radio and an amp |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: anything attached to a human brain is a terrible source of entropy |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: ever play with 'von neumann's mind reader' algo ? |
| 16:09 |
nubbins` |
nope |
| 16:11 |
dub |
nubbins`: http://lifehacker.com/5852903/silence-noisy-neighbors-by-transmitting-signals-through-their-own-speakers is an example but it might be easier to just introduce a less than random noise floor |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/p.cpp |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
enjoy |
| 16:12 |
assbot |
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| 16:12 |
nubbins` |
yeah, what i'm saying is that you'd deafen me before the contact mic would pick up the audio from my stereo |
| 16:12 |
nubbins` |
literally, i'd be dead with blood coming out of my ears |
| 16:12 |
dub |
you're wrong but keep talking |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
<nubbins`> control its input! << olo |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you sghould make that a webservice. |
| 16:14 |
nubbins` |
contact mics are orders of magnitude more sensitive to touch vibration than air vibration |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
i did at one point, lost the code |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
the way the game works: |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the interraction happens through em not airwaves. |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
you say '0' or '1' |
| 16:14 |
nubbins` |
o |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
computer says '0' or '1' |
| 16:14 |
dub |
20 years ago we could modulate an RF signal such that your skull would resonate a recognisable signal you would hear inside your head |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
you tell it if it was correct |
| 16:15 |
asciilifeform |
it goes off and changes weights on markov chain. |
| 16:15 |
asciilifeform |
keeps score. |
| 16:15 |
asciilifeform |
human usually loses unless he cheats |
| 16:15 |
asciilifeform |
(starts counting letters in phrases from memory, flips coins, etc.) |
| 16:16 |
asciilifeform |
not my idea. attributed to johnny von n, but i was given it by my brother, who plucked it from an ancient soviet textbook. |
| 16:16 |
assbot |
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| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
if you make it a webservice this'll be a great group activity at april conference. |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
get everyone drunk, person with worst score picks up the tab |
| 16:16 |
asciilifeform |
sure why not! |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
hm. well, i guess if i was onto something here, it would've been figured out ages ago |
| 16:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"Hey, Reddit, Ycombinator, and Metafilter readers! You know what, I'm proud that this article has become a benchmark, but I've written a lot of others I like too, some of them more recently than 2004. It would sure be nice if my other articles got some love instead of just this one being linked from a discussion every week." |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
dude wrote an article a decade ago, which saw 100bn page loads and 34 comments. |
| 16:20 |
mircea_popescu |
understandably a little miffed |
| 16:21 |
assbot |
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| 16:21 |
assbot |
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| 16:24 |
dub |
he should fartscroll.js it |
| 16:24 |
pankkake |
could a vacuum tube be used as an entropy source? |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake that's basically avalanche |
| 16:26 |
pankkake |
ok. interesting |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
basically you put a diode into backwards mode and count the electrons that make it past the barrier |
| 16:26 |
b0n1 |
is it profitable trading gold in china? |
| 16:27 |
b0n1 |
meaning to ship it out and sell it on for example european market |
| 16:27 |
b0n1 |
anyone a source or a clue? |
| 16:27 |
pankkake |
I like vacuum tubes for the looks basically :p I'd buy that kind of random number generator |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
b0n1 no. china is a net importer, and because of govt pressure consumer gold is even more expensive |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
go the other way. |
| 16:28 |
pankkake |
don't you have to smugle it? or it's india |
| 16:28 |
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| 16:28 |
topace |
do the coinabul peeps every lurk on irc these days ? |
| 16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
coingenuity |
| 16:28 |
nubbins` |
pankkake: plus you could be all badass walking into the music store |
| 16:29 |
nubbins` |
"yeah, i need some tubes" |
| 16:29 |
nubbins` |
"oh, for your amp?" |
| 16:29 |
b0n1 |
what is a good chinese commodity for taking out and selling elsewhere more expensive |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
b0n1 women. |
| 16:29 |
b0n1 |
jade? is there actually a market for jade in europe? |
| 16:29 |
b0n1 |
lal mircea_popescu |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
also, tshirts, electronic appliances of all kinds, small plastic toys |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
as well as 90% of all the items you have seen today. |
| 16:29 |
nubbins` |
chinese t-shirts |
| 16:30 |
mod6 |
pankkake: seems like india has import controls, something like 15% tax on gold import |
| 16:30 |
b0n1 |
well but there are certainly high market entry barriers, right? Maybe you need licences that are difficult to get? |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
basically you need to sign an agreement that if you steal their money they'll kill you with knives. |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
think of dealing with the mob, it's how china handles its export business. |
| 16:31 |
pankkake |
nubbins`: exactly, and I already have tubes for my amp anyway ;) |
| 16:32 |
nubbins` |
i'm picturing a Hiwatt with a built-in RNG |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
but speaking of gold, anyone saw the 2mn oz paper sale on the 11th ? |
| 16:33 |
mod6 |
yeah |
| 16:33 |
nubbins` |
"5-level eq, all tubes, sub-harmonic generator, and here's a usb port" |
| 16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
day's lol it was. |
| 16:34 |
coingenuity |
mircea_popescu: hm? |
| 16:34 |
coingenuity |
ah |
| 16:35 |
b0n1 |
do you have to pay tax on gold in china? |
| 16:35 |
coingenuity |
b0n1: you can't import gold to china |
| 16:35 |
b0n1 |
export |
| 16:35 |
b0n1 |
no import |
| 16:36 |
coingenuity |
you pay your 'tax' in the form of price-fixes by the government, which is the only authority allowed to sell/buy |
| 16:36 |
coingenuity |
you cant export either |
| 16:36 |
coingenuity |
bank of china is the only one allowed |
| 16:36 |
b0n1 |
black market? |
| 16:36 |
coingenuity |
you can bribe them and get an export authorization, or so i hear |
| 16:36 |
b0n1 |
shadow banking system? |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
this dude is cute. |
| 16:37 |
coingenuity |
whats good mircea_popescu :) |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, all hail b0n1, the new black gold market czar of china |
| 16:37 |
b0n1 |
:) |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
they'll shoot you dood. |
| 16:37 |
coingenuity |
^ |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
but otherwise, china buys 100-150 tons a month. thanks to the jpm&co keeping the price low with their derivative trades, |
| 16:38 |
coingenuity |
heh |
| 16:38 |
coingenuity |
yeah, the gov buys a ton |
| 16:38 |
b0n1 |
coingenuity, is it difficult to get the export authorization? |
| 16:38 |
coingenuity |
b0n1: i assume its nearly impossible |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
start by getting the job of chinese foreign trade minister |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
then it;'s easy. |
| 16:38 |
coingenuity |
^ |
| 16:39 |
b0n1 |
:) maybe i am |
| 16:39 |
b0n1 |
haha |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
on the internet every dog is the emperor of china. |
| 16:39 |
coingenuity |
lol |
| 16:39 |
b0n1 |
coingenuity, what do you think of jade? |
| 16:40 |
coingenuity |
b0n1: no opinion |
| 16:40 |
b0n1 |
or as mircea_popescu said any textile stuff. you could just go to a trading company that ship the stuff always straight to europe |
| 16:40 |
nubbins` |
b0n1: curious to know what you're getting at here |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
yes yes. if you have a good opportunity they'll provide you goods. learn chinese, go hang out there fgor a year. it's a living. |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
not quite as good a living as it was in 1993, but anyway. |
| 16:42 |
assbot |
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| 16:42 |
b0n1 |
nubbins`, maybe some cool sources to read a bit about that |
| 16:43 |
b0n1 |
good forums or stuff... cant find any good source |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
i meant, why are you so interested in exporting a good from chins |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
uh. china |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
!ticker |
| 16:44 |
assbot |
I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. |
| 16:44 |
nubbins` |
hm |
| 16:45 |
nubbins` |
;;ticker |
| 16:45 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.80016, Best ask: 223.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.19984, Last trade: 221.80016, 24 hour volume: 37045.60898872, 24 hour low: 199.60000, 24 hour high: 224.30000, 24 hour vwap: 211.91772 |
| 16:45 |
nubbins` |
^ that's getting a bit ridiculous |
| 16:45 |
b0n1 |
nubbins`, because i think there is great potential after the opening |
| 16:46 |
mod6 |
i've been thinking about this chart lately: http://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin << even after the rally, look where it is. |
| 16:46 |
nubbins` |
ha |
| 16:47 |
kakobrekla |
http://smpake.com/etc/btc/ |
| 16:48 |
nubbins` |
i'm having trouble deciding how greedy to be |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 which is why the rally. |
| 16:49 |
mod6 |
kakobrekla: what does the x axis rep? im cornfused. |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
on top of everything else however, like tech obsolesncence etc, the independent miners now also have the problem of dealing with people who mine for political rather than economic reasons |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it'll be tough |
| 16:49 |
kakobrekla |
horizontal is time |
| 16:49 |
nubbins` |
10% attack |
| 16:50 |
mod6 |
kakobrekla: i can't figure how those numbers are linear though |
| 16:50 |
nubbins` |
anyway, the dilemma is that if i sell this stack of btc now, i could lose out on potential gains if the trend continues to rise |
| |
↖ |
| 16:50 |
kakobrekla |
its a copla of years chars since its started to chart |
| 16:50 |
kakobrekla |
dayum its been long :\ |
| 16:50 |
nubbins` |
but if i sit on them with the expectation that the trend continues, i risk losing out on potential gains as well |
| 16:51 |
nubbins` |
and so i'm left trying to decide just how greedy i am |
| 16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao. 1st world problems. |
| 16:51 |
nubbins` |
i know right? |
| 16:52 |
mod6 |
oh because { 26.x, 27.x, 28.x, 27.x, 26.x ...} etc |
| 16:52 |
mod6 |
ok heh |
| 16:52 |
mod6 |
oh thats the date, not the month. got it. |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
ah! |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
well, that makes more sense now |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
what an odd date format |
| 16:53 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not odd, it's european/ |
| 16:53 |
nubbins` |
you just said two opposite things |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
inception |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/17/signature-thursday-how-strong-is-yours/ |
| 16:54 |
ozbot |
Signature Thursday: How strong is yours? | Bingo Blog |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
im curious how long before judges move to gpg sigs |
| 16:54 |
deadweasel |
yes, wake up, the price is actually $33/btc |
| 16:56 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: prolly never |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno, i wouldn't take the judge job w/o gpg sigs. |
| 16:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.31000087 = 2.48 BTC [-] {2} |
| 16:57 |
nubbins` |
well, there are plenty of judges that won't accept emailed documents but will accept faxes |
| 16:57 |
nubbins` |
not necessarily the most eager to embrace technology |
| 16:58 |
nubbins` |
anyway, i gotta go prep for a zine workshop. peace |
| 16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, but suppose it becomes law tomorrow that should your signature be forged, you're responsible as if you had signed. |
| 16:58 |
nubbins` |
heh! |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
part of a larger obama responsibility reform package, that also includes a rule that if your computer is hacked and sends spam, you're fined |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ten bux an email or something reasonable like that. |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
(half of which going to the party that reports the spam, of course) |
| 17:00 |
nubbins` |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMjGAimtRc |
| 17:00 |
ozbot |
Roger Hodgson - Dreamer [Live] - YouTube |
| 17:00 |
nubbins` |
and on that note, i'm out |
| 17:00 |
mod6 |
only a matter of time until a party collects keys and then spams people to generate rev. |
| 17:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2662 @ 0.00084533 = 2.2503 BTC [+] |
| 17:01 |
mod6 |
(if that should happen) |
| 17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 how'd that work ? |
| 17:01 |
mod6 |
<dude> Your Honor, I swear I never sent those emails. <Judge> Sorry son, this spam has your key sig. |
| 17:02 |
mod6 |
*gavel* |
| 17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
a no. |
| 17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
most of spam floating about today is traceable to clueless "businesses" |
| 17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that run poorly secured, windows computers on the network |
| 17:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.57300014 = 1.719 BTC [-] |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
consider : Subject: This Company Announced News Today From: frank@altimayachts.com |
| 17:03 |
mircea_popescu |
"Altima Yachts, Inc was founded out of a desire by our founder, Frank Sciortino, to produce the finest cruising yacht possible at a reasonable investment level." |
| 17:04 |
pankkake |
so running windows is now a crime in the US? at least government intervention does something positive! |
| 17:04 |
pankkake |
at last* |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8087 @ 0.00084594 = 6.8411 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ah the sweet day when im tyrant and everyone who ever worked for microsoft is permanently in jail. |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0055432 = 0.2772 BTC [-] {6} |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00084719 = 1.4512 BTC [+] |
| 17:10 |
dub |
http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2013/10/device-electricity-silicon-chips/ |
| 17:10 |
ozbot |
New device stores electricity on silicon chips | Research News @ Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt Universi |
| 17:13 |
dexX7 |
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513393903/0001193125-13-393903-index.htm < "is this good news?" |
| 17:13 |
dexX7 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316872.0 |
| 17:13 |
ozbot |
Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust on Bloomberg |
| 17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
not much yet. |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
it's been pending listing since summer. |
| 17:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
| 17:17 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.01112, Best ask: 223.79500, Bid-ask spread: 1.78388, Last trade: 222.01110, 24 hour volume: 37508.43892433, 24 hour low: 199.60135, 24 hour high: 224.30000, 24 hour vwap: 212.23333 |
| 17:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;bcstats |
| 17:17 |
pgp |
mod6: Regarding miner profits, Blockchain.info has not updated it's assumption of Watts/GH in a long time. Latest hardware is at around 10 Watts per GH not 650 Watts. Miners are still making plenty... |
| 17:17 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 265603 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 508 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, 26 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 380572529.595 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.14722 |
| 17:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;estimate |
| 17:17 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 380572529.595 based on data since last change | 433506794.872 based on data for last three days |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
42 ej |
| 17:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] |
| 17:20 |
mod6 |
pgp: ah. thx. |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00571022 = 0.4911 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gentime 1000000 |
| 17:25 |
gribble |
The average time to generate a block at 1000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 267731249.482, is 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes, and 14 seconds |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 13*24*3.600*10 |
| 17:26 |
gribble |
11232 |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 25 * 220 / 11232 |
| 17:26 |
gribble |
0.489672364672 |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nah that's broken |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 13*24*10 |
| 17:27 |
gribble |
3120 |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 25 * 220 / 3120 |
| 17:28 |
gribble |
1.76282051282 |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
so yeah, if they pay less than 1.75 dollars / kwh and the gear was free they're making a profit. |
| 17:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
| 17:28 |
benkay |
;;tslb |
| 17:28 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 7 minutes and 59 seconds |
| 17:31 |
mod6 |
so could a hardware device that measures the decay of a certain isotope be contrived to obtain a reliable source of random numbers? and if so, what would be the best isotope to use? |
| 17:31 |
mod6 |
was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_isotopes_by_half-life in the 10^-3 range... |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
if the gear costs 100k per terahash and it has to be amortised in 6 months however, the cost of electricity would have to be under -7 dollars/kwh or so. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 i'll tell you later, in the shape of a future nsa product :D |
| 17:33 |
mod6 |
:] |
| 17:33 |
dub |
it'll be a box with a camera and a turtle in it |
| 17:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00084685 = 1.1856 BTC [-] |
| 17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
why a turtle specifically ? |
| 17:35 |
dub |
best size vs. longevity I could think of in 8 seconds |
| 17:35 |
dub |
some of those little guys last 20 years |
| 17:35 |
dub |
big ones longer than us obviously but harder to ug around |
| 17:35 |
dub |
lug* |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/03/Peanut-Deformed-Turtle-Six-Pack-Ring-1-537x380.jpg |
| 17:37 |
dub |
darwin be praised |
| 17:37 |
jurov |
<phungus> [18:45:17] a Broker doesn't seem like it would help for listing << why not? it can help you, infact i'm already doing stuff to help namworld with this passthroughs ;) |
| 17:38 |
jurov |
*with his passthroughs |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61269944 BTC [+] |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.005496 = 0.1374 BTC [-] {8} |
| 17:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 746 @ 0.005251 = 3.9172 BTC [-] {32} |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 567 @ 0.00503144 = 2.8528 BTC [-] {5} |
| 17:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 83 @ 0.04989408 = 4.1412 BTC [-] {8} |
| 17:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-] |
| 17:42 |
kakobrekla |
>>"Kakobrekla is the slanderous soul" |
| 17:42 |
kakobrekla |
lmao |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
who did you slander this time |
| 17:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.61275 = 3.0638 BTC [+] |
| 17:43 |
dub |
has to be luke |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
could be luke... |
| 17:44 |
kakobrekla |
no, its that kiddo. |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
here, i'll trade you : "the writer here has something interesting to say and a few useful ways to explain it, but jesus if trilema hasn't completely fucking spoiled me for elegance and conciseness." |
| 17:46 |
kakobrekla |
dunno how to slander that. |
| 17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
slander IMMUNITY |
| 17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+AssetBot> [Graet.Loan] 2 @ 0.00502000 = 0.01004000 [-] |
| 17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's a .01 face value "bond" (loan) |
| 17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the market is never wrong |
| 17:56 |
jurov |
"slanderous soul" ... sounds almost poetic |
| 18:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00520001 = 0.26 BTC [+] |
| 18:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.0052 = 0.1196 BTC [-] |
| 18:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 42 @ 0.627069 = 26.3369 BTC [+] {13} |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.57329476 = 10.8926 BTC [-] {8} |
| 18:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00084157 = 0.6733 BTC [-] |
| 18:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00500001 = 2.5 BTC [-] {4} |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00500084 = 0.6001 BTC [+] {2} |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 401 @ 0.00500009 = 2.005 BTC [-] {4} |
| 18:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 256 @ 0.0050002 = 1.2801 BTC [+] {6} |
| 18:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00084657 = 2.2011 BTC [+] |
| 18:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5621 BTC [-] |
| 18:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 668 @ 0.00017 = 0.1136 BTC [+] |
| 19:01 |
jurov |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/10/22/how-chinas-xiaomi-does-in-a-week-what-apple-does-in-a-year-update-devices/ |
| 19:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00084124 = 6.1411 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 19:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10036 @ 0.00084082 = 8.4385 BTC [-] {2} |
| 19:43 |
dub |
its pretty easy realy |
| 19:43 |
dub |
when there are no resourcing limits, no regulations, no need to control quality |
| 19:44 |
dub |
of course they wont last more than a few minutes on the timescale of apple's history |
| 19:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00519507 = 0.1662 BTC [+] {4} |
| 19:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] |
| 19:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00519871 = 0.3015 BTC [-] {3} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 20:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2070 @ 0.00084082 = 1.7405 BTC [-] |
| 20:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60597499 = 2.4239 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00083786 = 1.0054 BTC [-] |
| 20:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.563 BTC [-] |
| 20:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00083294 = 5.4558 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00519999 = 0.3016 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0050002 = 0.125 BTC [-] |
| 20:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1623 @ 0.00083169 = 1.3498 BTC [-] |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 758 @ 0.00114998 = 0.8717 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 21:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00083786 = 5.9907 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 21:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56200004 = 1.124 BTC [-] |
| 21:45 |
dub |
;;ath |
| 21:45 |
gribble |
Error: "ath" is not a valid command. |
| 21:46 |
dub |
;;ticker --market all |
| 21:46 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD last: 229.30538, vol: 39977.16721744 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 204.96, vol: 24337.44747621 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 201.002, vol: 21812.9261 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 208.0, vol: 11634.46571442 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 196.01, vol: 844.79642574 | Volume-weighted last average: 214.236556853 |
| 21:46 |
assbot |
123! |
| 21:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11693 @ 0.00083568 = 9.7716 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:01 |
Diablo-D3 |
wtf 229 |
| 22:02 |
dub |
we should ask mircea_popescu if its ok to be this high |
| 22:02 |
Diablo-D3 |
before or after toking on a bong? |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
if you mean http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-ever.png it's damned scary |
| 22:03 |
dub |
we may need an angry blog post to bring it down |
| 22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
there ain't no bringing this down babeh. |
| 22:05 |
dub |
the price, not net speed |
| 22:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00083575 = 11.1991 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:05 |
pgp |
i wish charts like that were plotted against log10... |
| 22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
pgp http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-ever.png |
| 22:06 |
BingoBoingo |
This just looks like the same process that started last winter where the new $100 normal was discovered. Maybe we are in for Bitcoin's trek from being the internet's crisp hundred dollar bill to being the crisp 500 euro note. |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
there certainly exists the sufficient cause and backing for it. |
| 22:07 |
KRS1 |
cool next month i get to start throwing my asic miners away..useless. |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS1 have BingoBoingo over for a bbq |
| 22:08 |
KRS1 |
I live in Florida near Miami. |
| 22:08 |
KRS1 |
not far from Miami |
| 22:08 |
dexX7 |
bitcoin backing / justification for a huge rise = purchased asic hardware, mp? |
| 22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS1: That isn't too long of a drive. I just might have to retape my passenger side mirror on before I try returning to the Interstate Highways. |
| 22:09 |
KRS1 |
jaja |
| 22:10 |
KRS1 |
A while back i met Aaron the author of BAMT. He lives not far from me. |
| 22:10 |
KRS1 |
met quite a few people in BTC here. |
| 22:10 |
KRS1 |
LorenzoMoney..he's cool. |
| 22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 nope, i've never mined, i still am not mining. |
| 22:11 |
KRS1 |
like you have a reason to..haha keep doing what you do |
| 22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, we can't all do everything. |
| 22:13 |
KRS1 |
wouldnt want to..im working for my retirement so i can say FU and earn a few percent in the south caribbean somewhere. |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, curious if we're in for a rehash of july 2010. (vertical degree of magnitude wall, i think there were two consecutive 400% increases there) |
| 22:14 |
phungus |
it, fels the same |
| 22:14 |
phungus |
feels |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
it does have a sort of air doesn't it |
| 22:15 |
phungus |
I am saying 500 |
| 22:15 |
phungus |
then the reset |
| 22:15 |
phungus |
maybe that's too high |
| 22:15 |
phungus |
I dunno |
| 22:15 |
KRS1 |
one would think when the btc would be 100% mined to figure that maybe? |
| 22:15 |
KRS1 |
year or two before supply runs out? |
| 22:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00083564 = 6.8589 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:16 |
KRS1 |
$266 was fun indeed |
| 22:17 |
nubbins` |
i think they were talking about difficulty |
| 22:17 |
KRS1 |
oh right 2010 |
| 22:17 |
nubbins` |
yeah, last pasted link |
| 22:18 |
nubbins` |
that's a wild couple of jumps |
| 22:18 |
KRS1 |
;;seen chaang-noi |
| 22:18 |
gribble |
chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 56 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <chaang-noi> TOM FORD |
| 22:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.56200004 = 2.248 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` of course one has to appreciate it was on very narrow base |
| 22:19 |
nubbins` |
yeah. two beers will make you the drunkest guy in an empty bar. |
| 22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
7 degrees of magnitude below current levels. |
| 22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 22:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1223 BTC [-] |
| 22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS1 i dunno about LorenzoMoney, he's been maligning my good name calling me a fascist science writer and stuff |
| 22:26 |
nubbins` |
lel |
| 22:26 |
KRS1 |
damn =/ |
| 22:27 |
KRS1 |
I met him seemed ok..thats odd. |
| 22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr? |
| 22:28 |
KRS1 |
sorry to hear that |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS1 you realise it's a joke, mostly. |
| 22:32 |
KRS1 |
oh i missed that ok |
| 22:32 |
KRS1 |
came out of nowhere |
| 22:33 |
dexX7 |
;;calc 1/205 |
| 22:33 |
gribble |
0.00487804878049 |
| 22:40 |
BingoBoingo |
I'll just throw out it feels more like January 2013 than silk Road July (and to most people that should mean nothing, don't you cultivate your own personalized WOT's). |
| 22:42 |
dub |
wot |
| 22:42 |
KRS1 |
wut |
| 22:43 |
asciilifeform |
for the crypto/information-theory buffs: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html |
| 22:45 |
KRS1 |
Score % Leader Man 3 100.00 Machine 0 0.00 |
| 22:45 |
KRS1 |
i am teh win |
| 22:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;market buy 20000 |
| 22:46 |
gribble |
A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 5406287.9873 USD and would take the last price up to 493.3530 USD, resulting in an average price of 270.3144 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds |
| 22:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;bids 0 |
| 22:46 |
gribble |
There are currently 73141057 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14581346.7977 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.6065 seconds |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform cool beans |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS1 beat it with a score > 100 |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
everybody try it on your cat. or wife. or other pets. |
| 22:50 |
TomServo |
what's the high score? :) |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
Man685.71* Machine114.29< |
| 22:50 |
mike_c |
that website can read my mind. super annoying. |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not too hard to beat to shit provided you have infinite memory. |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't, so the computer will eventually win. |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
(as sooner or later you begin forgetting your earlier patterns) |
| 22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
basically if you can't score > 50% on 100 rolls you'll never be a card counter in blackjack |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
you can cheat by tossing a coin, say. but it's gotta be a perfectly fair coin! |
| 22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, this warrants a write-up |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
the point of the exercise was to illustrate a fact. |
| 22:52 |
TomServo |
it does that well, I think. |
| 23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sooo, in the latest installment of "libertards are owned by technology", it'd seem the uncompromised obamacare will in fact be delayed after all. because websites are hard. |
| 23:03 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: But they have a dream team of engineers whose owners won't be named... |
| 23:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00477138 = 0.1718 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Also managed 55.93% on 100 rolls on Ma vs. Machine |
| 23:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00462708 = 0.2221 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06989999 = 0.1398 BTC [+] |
| 23:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0698 = 0.2792 BTC [-] |
| 23:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 123 @ 0.00442712 = 0.5445 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00441 = 0.4631 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:09 |
nubbins` |
53.19% :( |
| 23:12 |
mircea_popescu |
wd. |
| 23:12 |
nubbins` |
oh wait. i stopped when i had 100 points |
| 23:12 |
nubbins` |
i misread |
| 23:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.0698 = 2.3034 BTC [-] |
| 23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if you toss a coin you'll get something like 1% over the machine in 1000 tries |
| 23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
or w/e, 0.01 in 1mn tries |
| 23:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21199 @ 0.00083626 = 17.7279 BTC [+] {3} |
| 23:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9539 @ 0.00083842 = 7.9977 BTC [+] |
| 23:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0698 = 0.1396 BTC [-] |
| 23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"October 24, 2013 will bring with it something that has not been heard of since 1921. The entire House and Senate, all of Capitol Hill will close for the funeral of a Representative. However unlike the 1921 Congress Closing, all members are being flown to Florida for the funeral by the United States Air Force." |
| 23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
if "terrorists" happen to bomb that plane... |
| 23:25 |
VanCleef |
my dad died as a terrorist show some respect |
| 23:26 |
KRS1 |
haha |
| 23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm guessing Bitcoin doesn't have an assassination market yet? |
| 23:28 |
VanCleef |
yeh right some fat virgin nerd is going to leave their grandmothers basement to do a hit |
| 23:28 |
Apocalyptic |
BingoBoingo, ask DRP |
| 23:28 |
VanCleef |
good one |
| 23:28 |
VanCleef |
why would they do that when they can smell their computer chair all day |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/find-out-just-how-human-your-girlfriend-really-is/ |
| 23:29 |
ozbot |
Find out just how human your girlfriend really is* pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 23:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.56160001 = 2.808 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ^ :D |
| 23:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [+] |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
VanCleef Apocalyptic: You never know. Even the fat need exercise sometimes. Look how skinny the coke made DPR when he couldn't sell it. |
| 23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
coke doesn't make you skinny, it's practically sugar. |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Not to your metabolism. |
| 23:35 |
VanCleef |
i met a crackwhore the other night at a nightclub |
| 23:35 |
VanCleef |
its funny when they really look like a crackwhore |
| 23:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25270 @ 0.00083728 = 21.1581 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:35 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, people who specify CRACKwhore make me thing ladyboys are a lot more popular than i imagine. |
| 23:36 |
VanCleef |
very popular |
| 23:36 |
VanCleef |
even actual women are starting to look like ladyboys now |
| 23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo no, seriouslys, it's usually sugar cut. at least the upscale stuff. |
| 23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Around here allegedly the contaminant is usually gypsum that was in the way of copper that needed stole. |
| 23:41 |
mircea_popescu |
also for that reason crack cocaine != cocaine |
| 23:43 |
KRS1 |
very different |
| 23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, the speed at which you can reach a decent serum concentration generally makes a difference on end effect. |
| 23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
that's not the whole story there. crack is significantly more toxic. |
| 23:47 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: More toxic yes, but mostly from combustion byproducts. The bicarbonates that make the crack a rock generally don't stay very benign when they burn. |
| 23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
also from the sudden avalanche of sodium blockers being less well tolerated by the heart |
| 23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Then there's the part where lung tissue tends to atrophy in the presence of cocaine in a way it can't for nicotine since humans generally have a bunch of enzymes ready to break down cholinergics like nicotine, though not so much for cocaine. |
| 23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Nicotine is the odd case in which any non-smoking route of administration can generally get more drug to the brain. For cocaine, the opiates and others the case is usually the opposite. |
| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
http://cdn2.tauntr.com/sites/default/files/CokeSpoon_Cowboys.jpg |
| 23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
/me wonders where MrKlye is for this conversation |
| 23:57 |
nubbins` |
i've seen people add heaping spoonfuls of powdered glucosamine to bags of coke |
| 23:57 |
nubbins` |
anything white that won't immediately kill you, really |
| 23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
glucosamine isn't particularly toxic or anything |
| 23:59 |
mircea_popescu |
actually i think you can't even find a "food supplement" that doesn't include it. |