#trilema | 2013-10-22

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00:06	nubbins`	assembling zines, fun times
00:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
00:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00673194 = 0.377 BTC [+] {2}
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01:18	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2013 @ 0.00113 = 2.2747 BTC [-]
01:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00673876 = 0.5458 BTC [+] {2}
01:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.66100003 BTC [-]
01:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.66 = 3.3 BTC [-]
01:23	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 8000 @ 0.00014237 = 1.139 BTC [-] {5}
01:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6201 BTC [-]
01:26	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6201 = 1.8603 BTC [-]
01:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.61688001 = 3.0844 BTC [-] {4}
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01:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.612101 BTC [-]
01:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.61208335 = 7.345 BTC [-] {4}
01:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.612 BTC [-]
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02:07	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6138 @ 0.00087597 = 5.3767 BTC [-]
02:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00114979 = 0.4599 BTC [+]
02:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 95 @ 0.00114979 = 0.1092 BTC [+]
02:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+]
02:39	taub	its going to a milllion!!!
02:39	taub	i could've should've done so much different
02:39	taub	i seriously had buy orders at the lows which i pulled last second
		~ 32 minutes ~
03:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.06999999 = 0.28 BTC [-]
03:25	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4536 @ 0.00087733 = 3.9796 BTC [+]
03:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 207 @ 0.00114979 = 0.238 BTC [+]
03:32	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 697 @ 0.0011499 = 0.8015 BTC [+] {2}
03:37	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00201794 = 0.2422 BTC [-] {3}
03:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002006 = 0.2006 BTC [-] {2}
03:50	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00632 = 0.1706 BTC [+]
		~ 15 minutes ~
04:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00609883 = 0.2562 BTC [-] {8}
04:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00600038 = 0.228 BTC [-] {5}
04:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.006 = 0.246 BTC [-]
		~ 24 minutes ~
04:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00571081 = 0.4169 BTC [-] {6}
04:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00566721 = 0.5667 BTC [-] {3}
04:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00614999 = 0.1537 BTC [+]
05:08	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6555 @ 0.00011993 = 0.7861 BTC [-] {2}
		~ 45 minutes ~
05:54	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4000 @ 0.0011499 = 4.5996 BTC [+]
05:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1761 @ 0.00011993 = 0.2112 BTC [-] {2}
		~ 50 minutes ~
06:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+]
06:56	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 6577 @ 0.0001402 = 0.9221 BTC [-] {2}
06:56	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+]
06:58	bitesak	;;ticker
06:58	gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 203.00000, Best ask: 203.10999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 203.11000, 24 hour volume: 32421.85068733, 24 hour low: 187.79998, 24 hour high: 205.50000, 24 hour vwap: 196.27046
07:02	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00210001 = 0.5922 BTC [+] {2}
07:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.0021 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
07:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.613 BTC [+]
07:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00200011 = 2.0001 BTC [-] {6}
07:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-]
07:09	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 177 @ 0.002 = 0.354 BTC [-]
07:22	bitesak	;;next
07:22	gribble	See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/
07:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
07:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 7101 @ 0.0019031 = 13.5139 BTC [-] {4}
07:42	assbot	[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 7 @ 0.13863583 = 0.9705 BTC [-]
		~ 17 minutes ~
08:00	TATI	$5 spread on coinbase buy/sell price
08:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00596 = 0.2384 BTC [+]
08:00	TATI	(unusual)
08:00	kakobrekla	2$ on the cfds
08:01	dexX7	where are btc cfds traded?
08:01	TATI	satoshi square
08:01	kakobrekla	i was looking at ava trade before
08:02	kakobrekla	its 3bucks now
08:03	Sandu	is there any proof of US/China mining?
08:03	kleeck_	no
08:09	TATI	proof of what now?
08:09	TATI	the government? labcoin?
08:10	Troic	proof of government
08:11	Troic	http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/
08:11	ozbot	Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce
08:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.123 BTC [-]
08:15	Sandu	why MP is not sharing the evidence?
08:21	assbot	[MPEX] [S.NSA] 900 @ 0.0002 = 0.18 BTC [-]
08:28	jurov	Sandu maybe evidence wrt china involvement is there in plain sight?
08:28	jurov	;;nethash
08:28	gribble	3040531.14261
08:29	jurov	3th . just btw.
08:29	jurov	no. it's 3000th :)
08:29	jurov	;;bc,stats
08:29	gribble	Current Blocks: 265303 \| Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 \| Next Difficulty In: 808 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 17 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 373795571.281 \| Estimated Percent Change: 39.61597
08:31	Sandu	is the dif spike evidence in itself?
08:32	Troic	circumstantial evidence ?
08:32	Sandu	this is not evidence
08:33	jurov	do you think that's all just kncminer?
08:33	Sandu	there are plenty of asic producers
08:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00046 = 0.46 BTC [-]
08:37	Jere_Jones	There is a significant difference between the Chinese people getting into the mining game and the Chinese government getting into the mining game. The US people have been mining for years yet that does not mean the US government has ever set up a mining operation. The evidence would have to show governmental entities are responsible for at least some mining.
08:37	Troic	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0
08:37	ozbot	Estimate of ASIC pre-orders (6,000 to 8,000 TH/s by end of 2013)
08:45	jurov	anyway, that is of no concern to me who is mining
08:46	jurov	what's worse, that iDiff-Dec has to be priced around 0.3 BTC (difficulty 3e9)
08:47	Jere_Jones	I would argue that it does make a difference.
08:47	Jere_Jones	If private individuals were mining, profit is important. A government doesn't have that restriction.
08:49	jurov	orly, how many private miners do actually profit today?
08:50	Jere_Jones	I do.
08:51	jurov	actually i think chinese govt (or Party-affiliated entrepreneurs) can buy stuff from friedcat at manufacture price, won't have to pay market rates for electricity, etc.. and thus would be more profitable
08:51	Jere_Jones	But the moment I think mining is no longer profitable, I turn my machines off. Because mining, to me, is about the money. Mining to some people is about "securing the network", and that's ok.
08:51	Jere_Jones	Mining to a government will be about control and power. Profit is almost a non-concern.
08:51	asciilifeform	or, alternatively, destroying it.
08:52	jurov	Jere_Jones so you think you profit or you actually did the math for your machines?
08:52	Apocalyptic	destroying is falls under power
08:52	Apocalyptic	*it
08:53	Jere_Jones	I have already made back the purchase price and the machines currently pay for their electricity.
08:53	jurov	okay, but i asked for profit, nor mere roi :)
08:53	jurov	*not mere roi
08:54	Jere_Jones	Profit means I get more out than I put in, right?
08:54	jurov	yes. at least in $.
08:54	Jere_Jones	I, currently, would be poorer if I turned them off.
08:55	Jere_Jones	I am profitable every day in BTC and $ with my mining. I expect that many people are. I'm not special.
08:56	Jere_Jones	The problem is getting into mining now is not, according to my maths, not going to be profitable.
08:58	jurov	omg all that you're saying is sooo vague...
08:59	jurov	let's have concrete example: say you borrowed $$$ a year ago and put them into asic preorder that was recently delivered
08:59	jurov	would you be richer or poorer now?
08:59	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.652 BTC [+]
09:00	Jere_Jones	I don't know of a single asic where that would be profitable
09:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6695 BTC [+]
09:00	Jere_Jones	But, also, there are no asics you could have preordered a year ago where you just got it.
09:01	Jere_Jones	Even BFL. A preorder a year ago would have been delivered months ago.
09:01	jurov	you see. so the profit motive just is not there and miners who are talking about profit are under self-delusion.
09:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.67338 = 3.3669 BTC [+] {3}
09:01	Jere_Jones	New miners who are talking about profit are self-delusional. I agree.
09:02	jurov	going in one year ago is not new
09:02	Jere_Jones	In the mining space, I'd say that a year ago is old school. When I say "new", I mean that you haven't purchased anything and are looking to start.
09:03	Jere_Jones	You could probably say that no machine purchased in the last month will ever be profitable (in BTC).
09:03	Jere_Jones	^ Correction: I would say that. You may or may not say that. :)
09:03	jurov	anyway, what i'm up to is: you compared profit motives of individuals vs. govt ... but there is no such thing with mining
09:04	Jere_Jones	I disagree.
09:04	Jere_Jones	I mine because it is profitable.
09:04	Jere_Jones	When it is no longer profitable, I will stop.
09:05	Jere_Jones	Profit is my motivation to mine. Except my usb block eruptor. I'll probably keep that guy going for ever... just 'cause. :)
09:06	kleeck_	My friends who went out and bought multicore processors for their mining rigs are really kicking themselves for mining at a loss those years ago.
09:06	kleeck_	Oh wait. No they aren't...
09:07	Jere_Jones	Future value of bitcoin does figure into my profit calculations.
09:07	kleeck_	Fair enough.
09:07	kleeck_	(Their investment was pretty small compared to modern asics, also. To be fair.)
09:08	jurov	it's hard to discuss when we have different definitions of profit. For me, profit is computed considering whole investment.
09:09	jurov	For Jere_Jones it's obviously only electricity.
09:09	kleeck_	Oh come on. Profit is clear: a financial gain, esp. the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.
09:09	kleeck_	This isn't a philosophical debate.
09:11	Jere_Jones	Concrete example: If I bought a batch 2 avalon for 80-ish btc. They have made back that 80-ish btc. They continue to make more $ than they cost in electricity. That, to me, is profitable.
09:11	jurov	Okay then. If.
09:12	kleeck_	That is absolutely profitable. Not just to you.
09:12	gecko_gs2	Let's just all agree that we gonna be rich
09:12	gecko_gs2	And get drinking
09:13	Jere_Jones	I think jurov has a very significant point that people starting to mine now can't claim profit as a motive because they will never make a profit.
09:13	kleeck_	shoo gecko_gs2, the grownups are talking.
09:13	Jere_Jones	Thus they are a) delusional, b) stupid, or c) have other motives.
09:13	gecko_gs2	Sry
09:13	gecko_gs2	Lemme get shitfaced
09:14	gecko_gs2	Then we'll talk
09:14	kleeck_	Jere_Jones, as per my CPU mining scenario, we can't really know that. You are correct that under current ROI calculations it is not profitable. However, if Bitcoin rises appropriately those individuals could see excellent return on their mining investment.
09:15	kleeck_	I know people who were mining at a loss back at the start. BTC wasn't worth the electricity and hardware.
09:15	kleeck_	Then, all of the sudden it was. Then it was worth much, much more.
09:16	Jere_Jones	Is it a profit if you paid for your gear in btc and never make that btc back? Even if the btc you earn is worth more $ than the btc you spent?
09:16	Jere_Jones	Buying and holding the btc would be more profitable.
09:16	dexX7	^
09:17	kleeck_	That would be the difference between the current scenario and the CPU miners scenario. I don't think they really had a place to buy coins.
09:17	Jere_Jones	There are several reasons to sink mad amounts of cash into mining equipment, but profit due to pool mining isn't one of them.
09:18	kleeck_	Not that I recall, at least.
09:18	Jere_Jones	Back then it was OTC all the way. That was before my time though.
09:18	kleeck_	I thought it was silly. :)
09:19	kleeck_	Oh, neat, you have 1000 worthless 1s and 0s...
09:19	kleeck_	I just cry now.
09:19	Jere_Jones	That's what I think about the altcoins. :)
09:19	kleeck_	^ Yeah! Actually. The exact same way I feel about altcoins now is how I felt about btc then.
09:20	kleeck_	Does that mean I should start mining altcoins?
09:20	kleeck_	:P
09:20	Jere_Jones	I'm floored that dustcoin says mining btc is the most profitable right now.
09:21	kleeck_	How can that be?
09:21	Jere_Jones	http://dustcoin.com/mining
09:21	ozbot	Cryptocoin Mining Information, Profitability and Calculators
09:21	Jere_Jones	I'm trusting them to do the math right. I haven't done it myself.
09:22	Jere_Jones	Anyway, I have to take off. Thanks for the conversation, I enjoyed it.
09:22	kleeck_	Same.
09:22	kleeck_	Take care.
09:23	jurov	Thanks too!
09:36	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.06715 = 0.3358 BTC [-]
09:42	gecko_x2	ok kleeck
09:43	gecko_x2	working on the jamaican rum
09:43	gecko_x2	soon we'll talk :)
09:43	gecko_x2	like grownups
09:43	gecko_x2	get ready
09:43	gecko_x2	:D
09:48	jurov	cuz alcohol makes one an adult. right.
09:50	kakobrekla	no, thats cigs.
09:51	pankkake	smoking cigars is the first step toward homosexuality
09:51	pankkake	oh, I'm back to 13-20 ignores
09:55	gecko_x2	there we go
09:55	gecko_x2	4 very adult comments
09:55	gecko_x2	right off the bat :p
09:55	pankkake	butts
09:55	kakobrekla	tits
09:55	gecko_x2	i should eat something before we get going here :p
09:56	gecko_x2	brb
09:56	jurov	manboobs!
09:57	gecko_x2	mmm
09:57	jurov	mmm
09:57	gecko_x2	baby, i got the sauna ready
09:58	gecko_x2	wanna join?
09:58	jurov	is it designated secure?
09:58	gecko_x2	absolutely
09:58	jurov	ooh
09:58	gecko_x2	and it comes with a massage
10:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00114963 = 0.1609 BTC [+] {2}
10:07	bob__	;;nethash
10:07	gribble	3051328.76913
10:12	jurov	https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E December open for trading
10:14	gecko_x2	"LMAO. Yep. That's right. Some people are happy to go collect in the region of around $700,000. And no, I'm not tough, self employed investigators debt collectors are."
10:14	gecko_x2	i'm gonna have to agree with Mr. NineLives on this one
10:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 92 @ 0.00111 = 0.1021 BTC [-]
10:18	gecko_x2	if i could get out with 50% loss at this point i would
10:19	gecko_x2	at 95%, it doesn't matter
10:19	gecko_x2	but nevertheless, sam's actions are despicable
10:19	gecko_x2	and someone is gonna react
10:20	gecko_x2	if i were this sam guy i'd pay back the remaining funds and fucking vanish
10:20	gecko_x2	right now
10:20	gecko_x2	for me personally it's only about 10 btc so i dun care
10:20	gecko_x2	but someone will
10:20	gecko_x2	man i'd be so gone if i were sam
10:35	gecko_x2	i'm thinking this whole labcoin operation could be a ff operation by the illuminati
10:36	gecko_x2	and spare me the fucking ridicule
10:36	jurov	you're outdoing yourself today
10:36	gecko_x2	the illuminati is real, and bitcoin is fucking right in the middle of the radar
10:37	gecko_x2	that's fact
10:37	gecko_x2	everyone here is known to them
10:37	the20year	yep
10:37	the20year	and they're using HAARP to hack your brains
10:37	gecko_x2	physical address, full med history, place of birth
10:37	jurov	we are the new world order!
10:37	gecko_x2	doon't be fucking naive
10:37	jurov	you think mircea is one of them?
10:38	the20year	It's a fact
10:38	deadweasel	don't be a drunk dickhead, gecko_x2
10:38	gecko_x2	no clue
10:38	gecko_x2	i'm not
10:38	jcpham	my vagina hurts from reading
10:38	the20year	He's one of their shills, trying to spread disinformation
10:38	gecko_x2	how many times do we have to go through this
10:38	jurov	if you have no clue on mp, where are your "facts", then?
10:38	gecko_x2	at first it's just 'conspiracy theory'
10:38	gecko_x2	then it becomes real
10:38	the20year	or it stays one
10:38	the20year	Remember hybrid corn in the 30s?
10:38	gecko_x2	i have no clue on MP
10:38	gecko_x2	none
10:39	jurov	yes! let's start illuminati cell
10:39	the20year	Hybrid corn was going to kill every single person in the US when they introduced it in 1930, and only those who consumed heirloom corn would die
10:39	gecko_x2	it's time to wake up ppl
10:39	the20year	err only heirloom eaters would live
10:39	gecko_x2	information means shit
10:39	jurov	what's the program supposed to be? managed depopulation? i guess we can manage it
10:39	gecko_x2	things that happen means shit
10:39	gecko_x2	i knew this reaction would come
10:39	gecko_x2	immediately
10:40	gecko_x2	it makes me more convinced
10:40	gecko_x2	you need to learn psychology
10:40	gecko_x2	and how information acts through time
10:41	kakobrekla	you need to learn reverse psychology :)
10:41	the20year	that the thousands of conspiracy theories that falter are forgot?
10:41	gecko_x2	in the past 6 months you've all learned that the NSA have gigantic computers with string theory shit that knows all about you
10:41	jurov	honestly, i have no problem to believe in anything. but even bilderberg group turned to harmless circlejerk
10:41	the20year	I'm not saying that every conspiracy is wrong, but plenty of them are, enough so that every single one needs to be heavily debated
10:41	gecko_x2	and still you sit here and argue like this was some kind of kindergarden game
10:41	gecko_x2	it's not
10:42	the20year	gecko, since patriot act was inacted the government essentially had a license to do that
10:42	gecko_x2	bitcoin is dangerous
10:42	jurov	circlejerk isn't kindergarten game, so much i admit
10:42	Apocalyptic	no doubt it is gecko_x2
10:42	the20year	because those computers can track every single transaction? Seems pretty beneficial to the NSA to me
10:42	gecko_x2	bitcoin is like a silver bullet for the werewolves
10:42	the20year	It's easier to track the flow of money via bitcoin than it is paper money
10:43	the20year	If the NSA is truly all encompassing, then they have every single IP and mac address that a bitcoin could flow through, and a nearly infinite amount of laundering won't fix that
10:43	gecko_x2	absolutely they have lol
10:43	gecko_x2	absolutely
10:43	gecko_x2	you need to learn how to logically deduct information
10:44	the20year	Same NSA that has broken nearly every type of encryption can't grab IPs and use them to find MAC addresses off of providers?
10:44	gecko_x2	the reason for all the news about snowden and NSA is not to 'reveal' something
10:44	Apocalyptic	"<the20year> Same NSA that has broken nearly every type of encryption" really dude ?
10:44	the20year	The same NSA that has spread malware and viruses to grab such information?
10:44	gecko_x2	it is to program our subconscious minds to realize that there is nothing we can do
10:44	the20year	Apocalyptic: they've got backdoors to just about everything
10:45	Apocalyptic	shit my gnupg is backdoored
10:45	gecko_x2	that they have awesome power and we must submit
10:45	the20year	Apocalyptic: if you're connected to the internet, then they know who you are
10:45	gecko_x2	the NSA have specialized teams for every OS out there
10:45	gecko_x2	they called them 'Tailored Access Group'
10:45	the20year	and somehow the magic bitcoin has foiled them for good
10:45	gecko_x2	they can't break strong crypto
10:46	deadweasel	gecko_x2, are you going to do anythign about it besides flail around in tin-foil clothing and cowboy hats in IRC?
10:46	the20year	Except if they have quantum computers, they can
10:46	gecko_x2	but endpoint security is so weak they don't have to
10:46	gecko_x2	they have audio and timing data on every keyboard ever manufactured
10:46	the20year	but they can't track your bitcoins?
10:46	Apocalyptic	<gecko_x2> they have audio and timing data on every keyboard ever manufactured // now we reach a new level
10:47	deadweasel	how far down the rabbit hole do we go today?
10:47	gecko_x2	they can decode what you are typing on your keyboard in realtime by measuring the tiny vibrations of the soundwaves your keyboard makes from the surface of the window in your room
10:47	gecko_x2	from space.
10:47	gecko_x2	in realtime
10:47	gecko_x2	wake the fuck up.
10:47	deadweasel	probably, so what?
10:47	gecko_x2	Apocalyptic new level? they were doing this in the fucking 50's
10:48	jurov	they decode and manage all of your brainwaves. HA! you can't outdo that!
10:48	naemsi	measuring soundwaves from space would be a feat.
10:48	deadweasel	i'm awake, I knew about this in 1990 when the programs started. I acted like you for about 9 years until I alienated everyone I loved by trying to 'SAVE THEM FROM THE GOVERNMENTS'
10:48	deadweasel	So what are you trying to accomplish?
10:48	kakobrekla	yet they still dont clean up my desktop
10:48	kakobrekla	fuckers
10:48	deadweasel	lazy fuckers
10:48	gecko_x2	there is official domumentation on how they acquire every model of typewriter manufactured in the world in the 50's
10:48	deadweasel	so fucking what?
10:48	gecko_x2	and analyse them so that they can trace any letter ever written
10:48	gecko_x2	this is NOTHING NEW
10:48	deadweasel	exactly
10:49	gecko_x2	these guys are NOT STUPID
10:49	deadweasel	so what's your point? We all realize the current situation. We also realize the liklihood of being targeted is directly tied to what actions we take on their 'turf
10:49	gecko_x2	true
10:49	deadweasel	or areas they have targeted.
10:49	gecko_x2	my point here is just don't be naive
10:49	gecko_x2	don't think this is a game
10:50	gecko_x2	after 20 years something you type in the forums or here might come back and haunt you
10:50	deadweasel	I'm not. I believe everything that happens on a keyboard with my hands is in their datastore. I also believe they won't look at it until some automated system pops me as suspcious enough to investigate
10:50	gecko_x2	they will store and analyse everything
10:50	deadweasel	gecko_x2: I realize that, I don't like it.
10:50	deadweasel	but it's done.
10:51	deadweasel	20 yr down the line I should have my own property... They are welcome to come talk to me about my forum posts from 20 years before....
10:51	deadweasel	but it's not going to happen.
10:51	deadweasel	statute of limitations for one.
10:51	gecko_x2	deadweasel well that's where you are wrong, once they decide they want to get rid of you, they can use the data
10:51	gecko_x2	and they will
10:51	gecko_x2	but not for LOGICAL reasons
10:51	the20year	so i'm curious , if the NSA can read your typing from space, how come they didn't get snowden's?
10:51	gecko_x2	but POLITICAL
10:52	deadweasel	gecko_x2: the government is not as efficient as you seem to believe.
10:52	gecko_x2	the20year because snowden is a ff op
10:52	gecko_x2	it's a psyop
10:52	gecko_x2	they WANT you to know this
10:52	gecko_x2	because it makes you AN ANIMAL
10:52	jurov	then you are a psyuop, too!
10:52	gecko_x2	it makes your brain work like the brain of a DOG
10:52	gecko_x2	it makes you locked in as a slave
10:52	the20year	But since you stopped taking your meds, you can think clearly now
10:52	gecko_x2	it takes away your humanity
10:53	gecko_x2	they are harvesting souls
10:53	gecko_x2	that's what they do
10:53	gecko_x2	it's very very hard to resist it
10:53	deadweasel	'they' are now harvesting souls?
10:53	gecko_x2	extremely hard
10:53	jurov	gecko_x2: you are a psy op. get away
10:53	deadweasel	I just found mine, so I'm not giving it up no how.
10:53	gecko_x2	you must be so fucking strong
10:54	deadweasel	i'm sorry, you lost me.... when you started talking.
10:54	Apocalyptic	<deadweasel> 'they' are now harvesting souls? // sure they di
10:54	Apocalyptic	*do
10:54	gecko_x2	yet you happily buy your food with symbols they create
10:54	gecko_x2	and never ask why you get something for nothing
10:54	deadweasel	I did see a new tractor called the Soul-Harvester 540D. Diesel powered.
10:54	the20year	i don't use foodstamps, so i don't get food for free
10:55	deadweasel	gecko_x2: we have all asked those questions, it's why we are in this room.
10:55	deadweasel	doesn't mean we have many choices.
10:55	gecko_x2	the dollar bills are the symbols
10:55	deadweasel	to feeding ourselves.
10:55	gecko_x2	yea i know i know
10:55	the20year	then pay with change
10:55	Apocalyptic	deadweasel, go harvest some roots and feed yourself
10:55	gecko_x2	that's why i even bother to irritate you
10:55	gecko_x2	because i know here it might make a difference
10:55	gecko_x2	don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to antagonize
10:56	gecko_x2	just someone might get a clue and go study for themselves
10:56	deadweasel	well, except for your unprovable statements (which I don't want to go over), I agree with you mostly.
10:56	deadweasel	The trend is correct...
10:56	gecko_x2	yeah
10:56	gecko_x2	i don't know everything
10:56	gecko_x2	i'm just a fucking slave like you
10:56	gecko_x2	so..
10:57	gecko_x2	i believe they will lose.
10:57	gecko_x2	that's my point
10:57	deadweasel	ok. agreed.
10:57	gecko_x2	i believe they are failing right now
10:58	gecko_x2	in the end, the ppl will rise up and get rid of them
10:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00578852 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {2}
10:58	gecko_x2	ok.. gecko:out for now :)
10:58	deadweasel	adios.
10:58	gecko_x2	thx for putting up wif my rant :D
10:59	the20year	maybe you could move to detroit, no one would find you there
11:00	jurov	if that would be so easy... seems around here we have sizeable group of peeps who believe there is powerful homosexual lobby, that wants to:
11:00	gecko_x2	the20year just remember, 'The Declaration of Independence' is not the complete name of the original bill
11:00	jurov	1. enforce freedom to choose your sex
11:00	gecko_x2	the original name was 'declaration of independence from the brittish bankers'
11:00	jurov	2. take away childern from heterosexual families and give them to homosexuals and pedophiles
11:01	the20year	Where's proof of that gecko_
11:01	gecko_x2	the20year dun have it right now.. sry
11:01	jurov	3. start compulsory sexual education starting in kindergardens that will learn nasturbation and sexual deviations
11:01	gecko_x2	i could try to find
11:01	the20year	Because google isn't showing anything
11:01	gecko_x2	but too much on the todo list atm
11:01	gecko_x2	lol
11:01	gecko_x2	ofcourse it isn't
11:01	jurov	so that majority of population will be homosexuals or deviants
11:02	gecko_x2	there is an audio file on the net
11:02	gecko_x2	if i find it i'll link
11:02	kakobrekla	are you alex jones ?
11:02	jurov	gecko_x2: read what i have written, can you believe that?
11:03	gecko_x2	jurov absolutelyu
11:03	gecko_x2	u
11:03	gecko_x2	it's all part of the plot
11:03	gecko_x2	my speciality is the fact that right now
11:03	gecko_x2	in this chan
11:03	gecko_x2	on this day
11:03	gecko_x2	we are discussing this
11:04	gecko_x2	seriously
11:04	gecko_x2	that is extremely relevant
11:04	gecko_x2	when you consider what information is, how the human mass psyche works
11:04	gecko_x2	that gives us a roadmap
11:04	gecko_x2	the very fact that this convo is taking place
11:04	gecko_x2	in itself is proof
11:05	gecko_x2	the truth always acts in certain ways
11:05	gecko_x2	it spreads like a virus
11:05	gecko_x2	until it reaches a tipping point
11:05	jurov	while lies stay hidden?
11:05	gecko_x2	in the beginning it's just a few 'cooks'
11:05	jurov	i see you're truly an expert
11:05	gecko_x2	think about it
11:06	gecko_x2	2 years ago
11:06	gecko_x2	the shit they write about snowden and the NSA today would have seemed incredibly stupid
11:06	gecko_x2	today
11:06	gecko_x2	it's fucking daily stuff
11:06	gecko_x2	that is the process
11:07	gecko_x2	that is the humman mass subconscious psyce at work
11:07	gecko_x2	sry 4 typos
11:08	jurov	i did consider such stuff. for several years and came up with markedly different outcomes
11:08	jurov	would not be productive to discuss them with you
11:08	jurov	i'll just ask you to consider this: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion
11:09	jurov	nice example how really the delusions work
11:09	gecko_x2	jurov ok i'll read
11:09	gecko_x2	but if ur not familiar, and this might be a poorly chosen link
11:09	gecko_x2	but if you haven't watched, here's just a short 5 min explanation
11:09	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAMiNTC7HOM
11:09	ozbot	Former KGB Agent Explains how Elites Brainwash The Pulic from reality - YouTube
11:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.13300025 = 0.532 BTC [+] {2}
11:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012261 = 1.2261 BTC [-] {9}
11:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 143 @ 0.0058 = 0.8294 BTC [+]
11:17	jcpham	why is someone always ranting in this channel
11:17	kakobrekla	http://www.techspot.com/news/54179-john-mcafee-is-developing-a-100-device-to-block-the-nsa.html
11:17	ozbot	John McAfee is developing a $100 device to block the NSA - TechSpot
11:18	jcpham	is it the same person using different nicks
11:21	jurov	what? you think it's the same as s.nsa?
11:22	gecko_x2	i've been ranting on efent for over 20 years now
11:22	gecko_x2	i have logs of everything
11:22	gecko_x2	efnet*
11:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00579 = 0.359 BTC [-]
11:23	gecko_x2	if i'm a change agent, then so be it
11:23	gecko_x2	all i know is i'm gonna keep ranting until i die
11:23	gecko_x2	i have already given up everything normal ppl value
11:23	gecko_x2	family, friends, reputation, ownership
11:24	gecko_x2	and i've never felt more alive
11:24	gecko_x2	i own nothing
11:24	gecko_x2	except a few bitcoins and alittle gold and silver
11:24	gecko_x2	i have basically no contact with my family except for 1
11:25	gecko_x2	i have no friends
11:25	gecko_x2	no career
11:25	gecko_x2	no nothing
11:25	gecko_x2	so if i'm a subversive change agent, i'm not aware myself
11:25	bitesak	kakobrekla: Do you know how that mcafee is different to the pirate box: http://daviddarts.com/piratebox/?title=PirateBox
11:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00566 = 0.3226 BTC [-] {3}
11:26	kakobrekla	dunno
11:27	jurov	afaik mcafee does connect to internet
11:31	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEqFRznSNAs
11:31	ozbot	Cheek - Parempi mies feat. Samuli Edelmann - YouTube
11:33	bitesak	doesn't seem like Internet connected, "Everyone in those three blocks can then communicate with each other and that will obviously change as users move in and out of a local area."
11:34	TomServo	jurov: Seems extremely silly to try and draw a fireplace/smoking analogy with no mention of frequency.
11:34	TomServo	But I must be delusional.
11:35	jurov	no, you just missed a point
11:35	TomServo	Was the point not that it's hard for people to accept that a fire can be harmful?
11:36	jurov	yes. and you try to rationalize it away..."oh but if it's not often it's okay"
11:37	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECdEma31Od8
11:37	ozbot	Salem - King Diamond - YouTube
11:38	nubbins`	hi
11:38	jcpham	turn around and leave now nubbins`
11:38	jcpham	while you still can!
11:39	nubbins`	D:
11:39	jurov	utter madness lurks here!
11:39	nubbins`	DDDDD:
11:39	nubbins`	wiat
11:39	nubbins`	i mean, wait
11:39	nubbins`	i'm mad too
11:42	pankkake	http://blog.coinbase.com/post/64702087626/we-just-released-magento-and-zencart-plugins
11:42	ozbot	We Just Released Magento and ZenCart Plugins - The Coinbase Blog
11:56	ThickAsThieves	BIPS is integrating with BigCommerce too
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12:24	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.60787776 = 5.4709 BTC [-] {6}
12:39	gecko_x2	why is mp's client cycling?
12:39	gecko_x2	did the illuminati finally get to him?
12:41	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00224967 = 0.2205 BTC [+] {3}
12:44	the20year	yes
12:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 190 @ 0.0056906 = 1.0812 BTC [-] {10}
12:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011499 = 0.115 BTC [+]
12:59	gecko_x2	mp you are the illuminist zionist elitist globalist scum?
12:59	gecko_x2	if not, prease press 1
13:02	mircea_popescu	im not zionist
13:02	mircea_popescu	and what's illuminist mean ?
13:03	gecko_x2	:D
13:03	gecko_x2	wb man
13:03	gecko_x2	we were worried about you
13:04	gecko_x2	you're client was cycling on our asses
13:04	gecko_x2	and we didn't know if the CIA got you in the bathtub
13:05	gecko_x2	your*
13:05	deadweasel	please, don't lump me into your crazy ideas.
13:05	deadweasel	;P
13:06	gecko_x2	sry
13:06	deadweasel	just had to take another whack at you, you're all hanging out today!
13:06	jurov	dead weasel in the bathtub
13:06	deadweasel	jamaican rum. Clear liquors are for rich women on diets.
13:06	deadweasel	- Ron Swanson
		~ 15 minutes ~
13:22	nubbins`	i want to see someone running 49 printers off one of those asicminer hubs
13:24	pankkake	now to find someone with 49 printers (bernanke?)
13:24	taub	;premium bitstamp mtgox
13:24	taub	,premium bitstamp mtgox
13:24	pankkake	;;premium bitstamp mtgox
13:24	gribble	bitstamp premium over mtgox is currently -3.80669144981 %.
13:24	taub	ty
13:24	taub	well that has shrunk
13:24	taub	did they open deposits back up?
13:24	pankkake	wow, close. I might lose that bitbet :/
13:24	pankkake	if true good news anyway…
13:25	taub	i dont know i can live with outit
13:26	taub	without gox that is
13:30	nubbins`	sure you can
13:30	nubbins`	gox is for squares
13:34	jerrys1	hello
13:35	jerrys1	can anyone help me determine this chart http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd on the bottom right there is green/red box which is 'trades'
13:35	jerrys1	the colors are green and red. It seems gree/red is not buy/sell but some other relationship
13:35	jerrys1	where can one see the buys completed and the sells completed or how does it work?
13:36	bob__	green/red is the price went up or the price went down.
13:37	jerrys1	but sometimes i see like. red 185. red 185 green 185
13:37	jerrys1	wtf?
13:38	bob__	hah, yeah. wtf indeed.
13:38	jerrys1	right now there is: red 201.75 green 202 green 201.9994 green 201.9993 green 202
13:39	jerrys1	ok another question. are the bids/asks ever met in the middle?
13:39	jerrys1	or if i place 20btc for ask at 205$ USD itl always stay like that until someone buys it?
13:40	jerrys1	and if I want to buy btc. I can buy your 20btc at 205$ USD OR i can place an Ask for say 20 BTC at $200 USD?
13:41	mircea_popescu	gecko_gs2 im sick.
13:41	gecko_x2	:(
13:41	gecko_x2	just the flu i hope?
13:42	mircea_popescu	yeah something like that
13:42	jurov	gecko_x2: and have you read trilema today? quite a piece has appeared
13:44	gecko_x2	i haven't
13:45	gecko_x2	to be honest i have a bunch of trileman pages constantly open in my browser, but lately haven't been able to read because they are too brilliant for my current state of mind, which dwells in shit and misery
13:45	gecko_x2	:\
13:45	gecko_x2	but someday i will read
13:46	jurov	exactly this one is well suited to your misery
13:46	gecko_x2	that girl is beautiful
13:46	gecko_x2	link then plz
13:46	jurov	it basically says that since we, as a culture, decided to deprecate rape, we're all dooomed
13:47	gecko_x2	hmm
13:47	gecko_x2	i'm still working on the airgap and cardano articles
13:48	jurov	oh, nevermind then. such a sudden change of context would you do no good.
13:48	gecko_x2	but that girl makes me want to be born again with some other genes than my current finnish shit genes
13:48	gecko_x2	yeah jurov, but i'll keep that in mind
13:48	gecko_x2	thx
13:49	phungus	< mircea_popescu> and what's illuminist mean ?
13:49	phungus	part of the illuminati
13:50	phungus	aka, part of the evil satanic cult cladestinely controlling world events as puppet masters
13:50	phungus	:-)
13:51	jurov	phungus, you'll better read trilema, too. to know who is the vile one around xD
13:54	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00223999 = 0.4211 BTC [-]
13:58	gecko_x2	wtf
13:58	gecko_x2	where did the girl go
13:58	gecko_x2	are u deleting posts mp?
13:59	jurov	calm down. trilema frontpage shows different random post every time
13:59	gecko_x2	oic
13:59	gecko_x2	i closed the tab and now i miss her
13:59	gecko_x2	:(
13:59	mircea_popescu	phungus sounded more like part of illuminisme
14:00	gecko_x2	could u link back to the pic?
14:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 590 @ 0.0011499 = 0.6784 BTC [+]
14:00	mircea_popescu	jurov i live to please :D
14:01	gecko_x2	to be honest, i find trilema extremely interesting, but having been without marihuana now for a few weeks
14:01	gecko_x2	i have issues with concentration
14:02	gecko_x2	so i've just left the tabs open for a better day
14:02	jurov	i guess trilema is best read in designated secure sauna
14:02	gecko_x2	yes and remember, if you fuck with me, i'll take you behind the sauna :p
14:03	gecko_x2	and we all know what happens there
14:03	gecko_x2	;]
14:03	jurov	frolicking in the snow!
14:04	jurov	http://www.flickr.com/photos/mickchicago/5346108999/
14:04	ozbot	Grey Squirrels Frolicking in the snow \| Flickr - Photo Sharing
14:05	gecko_x2	nah jurov
14:05	gecko_x2	behind the saune means bullet through your skull usually
14:05	gecko_x2	in this country
14:05	gecko_x2	:p
14:05	gecko_x2	but dun worry just kiddin
14:05	gecko_x2	still looking for that pic
14:06	gecko_x2	i lost it
14:06	Sandu	mircea_popescu how do you know that the yanks and the chinese are mining?
14:06	gecko_x2	even browser history won't help me
14:07	gecko_x2	:(
14:08	gecko_x2	guess it shall forever remain as a shadow in my memories then
14:08	gecko_x2	but she was beautiful
14:10	gecko_x2	trilema is hard to read because i need to pause after each sentence
14:10	gecko_x2	it's not something you read as usual
14:11	gecko_x2	as in glaze over the first few words and then deduct the rest in your mind while jumping to the next paragraph
14:11	gecko_x2	like you read most of the crap nowadays
14:11	mircea_popescu	Sandu that has not been released so far.
14:12	nubbins`	that's tantalizing
14:13	gecko_x2	mircea_popescu did i meantion that i despise my own country and the ppl in it?
14:13	gecko_x2	not a good place to be.
14:14	Sandu	mircea_popescu by yourself, you mean
14:14	jurov	gecko_x2: so move elsewhere... especially since you boasted you don't have any property nor family ties...
14:15	gecko_x2	jurov i just returned from 8 years abroad
14:15	mircea_popescu	Sandu you were asking me.
14:15	gecko_x2	nothing is free in this life
14:16	Sandu	mircea_popescu so why aren't you releasing it?
14:16	gecko_x2	and i find this place absolutely appalling
14:16	mircea_popescu	surprisingly... that also hasn;'t been released so far.
14:16	gecko_x2	ppl here live like dogs, threat others as dogs, and are totally unaware that they are doing so
14:17	gecko_x2	that's what extreme socialism and collectivism does to a human mind
14:17	KRS1-	coinbase = mtgox (almost)
14:18	Sandu	last one, haha
14:18	Sandu	and why exactly hasn't it been released so far?
14:21	the20year	http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1oz585/next_low_for_ltc_is_coming/
14:21	ozbot	Next low for LTC is coming : litecoin
14:28	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 13 @ 0.0706923 = 0.919 BTC [+] {2}
14:32	gecko_x2	fuck this fucking shit :(
14:32	gecko_x2	sry.. i'm wenting
14:32	gecko_x2	don't ever set foot in finland gais
14:33	gecko_x2	it's true hell on earth
14:37	KRS1-	screw finland..what are they good for anyway
14:37	KRS1-	stuck up pricks...
14:39	gecko_x2	that's right
14:39	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_tORtmKIjE
14:39	ozbot	The Bard`s Song (Studio) - YouTube
14:39	deadweasel	gecko_x2, you may want to balance your worldview with some positives. There is good in this world, albeit it exists in evil's shadow.
14:40	deadweasel	but it is there.
14:40	gecko_x2	yes mas i know
14:40	gecko_x2	you need to understand
14:40	gecko_x2	just spent the best years of my life away
14:41	gecko_x2	returned only to find this horror
14:41	deadweasel	nothing is wasted is if you learned something.
14:41	pankkake	http://gotinsurancecolorado.org/ look for "spread the word"
14:41	ozbot	Got Insurance
14:41	gecko_x2	right again
14:41	deadweasel	so if you came back to horror, become the only positive thing there. It will grow.
14:42	deadweasel	help those in need, they will improve, you will be happier than simply ranting about the issues -- which makes me terribly depresesd, if I recall years 12-24.
14:42	KRS1-	gecko_x2 good song
14:43	gecko_x2	sry deadweasel, i'm planning to get the fuck away from here again
14:43	gecko_x2	just means i have to disappoint my few remaining friendly souls once again
14:43	deadweasel	don't apologise to me. I'm just trying to talk to the 'me' that might be in you right now. it's very familiar.
14:43	gecko_x2	it's not easy
14:44	gecko_x2	but this shit just aini't worth it
14:44	deadweasel	everything you know will be destroyed before you come out the other side. this is the process.
14:44	gecko_x2	these ppl are DOGS
14:44	deadweasel	love it
14:44	gecko_x2	i heard that man
14:44	gecko_x2	i hear you
14:44	deadweasel	then, from the ashes... who knows?
14:45	deadweasel	anyway, I hear you too gecko_x2 ... i know it.
14:45	deadweasel	it can be overwhelming and ugly.
14:45	deadweasel	at least you are seeking
14:45	deadweasel	:)
14:46	gecko_x2	yea
14:46	Sandu	<Sandu> mircea_popescu how do you know that the yanks and the chinese are mining?
14:46	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTO1n7GNXyM
14:46	ozbot	Dio - Holy Diver - YouTube
14:47	Sandu	I've pasted my previous msg by mistake, nevermind it
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15:04	gecko_x2	k gais here goes a real cheesy one.. don't jufge
15:04	gecko_x2	judge
15:04	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CrvHg-3jFk
15:04	ozbot	MAGNUM - Don't Wake The Lion - (Too Old To Die Young) (LIVE 07) - YouTube
15:05	assbot	[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 2 @ 0.34413722 = 0.6883 BTC [+]
15:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0738999 = 0.2217 BTC [+]
15:16	gecko_x2	nice.. followed by this
15:16	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHz-JqYRSu8
15:16	ozbot	Dream Theater- Space-Dye Vest - YouTube
15:16	gecko_x2	i'm sentimental because i made up my mind
15:16	gecko_x2	to leave my country of birth for good
15:18	deadweasel	where to?
15:18	gecko_x2	no clue atm
15:18	gecko_x2	don't make any diff
15:18	gecko_x2	i know my first stop
15:18	gecko_x2	that's it
15:19	gecko_x2	gonna live on my it knowledge, my knowledge of gold bullion coins, and my knowledge of
15:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.07390495 = 1.0347 BTC [+] {2}
15:19	deadweasel	other places have problems too... so if it doesn't make any difference, why would you leave?
15:20	deadweasel	where are you?
15:20	gecko_x2	i know that man
15:20	gecko_x2	that's no prob
15:20	gecko_x2	no prob
15:20	gecko_x2	i speak perfect english
15:20	gecko_x2	to be frank
15:20	deadweasel	ok, Frank, where is your first stop?
15:20	gecko_x2	i think i'm moving to where i truly belong
15:20	deadweasel	you truly belong wherever you are.
15:20	gecko_x2	where i've been for the past 20+ years
15:21	gecko_x2	that place is called efnet
15:21	jurov	sigh
15:21	gecko_x2	that's where i'm fucking going
15:21	gecko_x2	wtf
15:21	gecko_x2	there is nothing else
15:22	gecko_x2	everyone knows me there
15:22	gecko_x2	physically, someplace alittle warmer
15:22	gecko_x2	where ppl don't bark like dogs
15:22	deadweasel	well, you can't go anywhere then.
15:23	deadweasel	enjoy.
15:23	gecko_x2	then, after the crash
15:23	gecko_x2	who knows
15:23	gecko_x2	wrong deadweasel
15:23	gecko_x2	i can handlle myself just fine anywhere
15:23	deadweasel	i don't think you can handle yourself at all. you're all over the place.
15:24	gecko_x2	lol
15:24	gecko_x2	well you're wrong there bud
15:24	deadweasel	incoherent, rambling at times, to come back to just a general malaise.
15:24	gecko_x2	yeah
15:24	deadweasel	can't actually put into words what you're going to do ro what's actually wrong. except barking dogs...
15:24	gecko_x2	that's what you call life
15:24	deadweasel	nope, it's called belief.
15:24	deadweasel	you have too much, in too many things.
15:25	deadweasel	and you are too sure
15:25	gecko_x2	but dun worry man, dun worry about me
15:25	gecko_x2	if there is anything you can learn from this fucking rant, take it
15:25	Bunnyh	i'm finnish too, and don't really understand that barking dogs thing. maybe i'm one of them!
15:25	gecko_x2	uhh
15:26	gecko_x2	that's because you've never seen the other side
15:26	deadweasel	Bunnyh: quit fucking barking!
15:26	gecko_x2	this country is sick
15:26	gecko_x2	sick to the core
15:26	deadweasel	they all are -- they have governments.
15:26	kakobrekla	'this' being what?
15:27	gecko_x2	ppl telling other ppl that they have to carry their 70 litres of beer through a kilometer long hot metal tube
15:27	gecko_x2	if they want to enjoy it
15:27	topace	HIM dividends up 50% this month!
15:27	gecko_x2	that is psychological sickness
15:27	gecko_x2	this country is mother fucking sick to the bones
15:28	gecko_x2	there is no respect left
15:28	kakobrekla	what is this 'this' you speak of?
15:28	gecko_x2	it's just dogs sniffing other dog's asses
15:28	gecko_x2	you'll see
15:28	gecko_x2	in time
15:28	jurov	lol if only that's the problem...you're welcome in k.u.k. legacy countries... we like our beer fresh from cooled tank
15:28	gecko_x2	or then you won't
15:29	gecko_x2	and die in HYKS realizing you never lived at all
15:29	gecko_x2	no thanks
15:29	KRS1-	where would you prefer to live gecko_x2 if you had free choice of anywhere
15:30	gecko_x2	i have my placed scouted
15:30	kakobrekla	invalid question
15:30	kakobrekla	there is no free will
15:30	gecko_x2	i won't list them here
15:30	gecko_x2	just speaking my mind
15:30	gecko_x2	feell free to /ignore at any time
15:30	deadweasel	very close. :)
15:30	deadweasel	but still fun
15:30	Bunnyh	who's telling who to carry their 70 litres of beer through a kilometer long hot metal tube? i don't understand
15:31	deadweasel	^
15:31	gecko_x2	bynnyh hold..
15:31	deadweasel	explain plz, beer tubes?
15:31	gecko_x2	yes hold
15:31	deadweasel	is like a waterslide, for beer?
15:31	kakobrekla	beerslide then
15:32	gecko_x2	http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1288596509325.html
15:32	ozbot	SS: Tulli panee stopin varustamojen laittomalle viinarallille - Kotimaan uutiset - Ilta-Sanomat
15:32	kakobrekla	watch the foam.
15:32	gecko_x2	read the 157 comments
15:32	gecko_x2	you'll see.
15:32	gecko_x2	fuck sick dogs
15:32	gecko_x2	nothing more.
15:32	deadweasel	So, your entire country is fucked because you found a webpage with stuff you don't like?
15:32	deadweasel	this world is fucked
15:33	kakobrekla	lol
15:33	gecko_x2	no mas
15:33	gecko_x2	this is 20 years of this shit
15:33	deadweasel	who is mas?
15:33	gecko_x2	mas= FRIEND
15:33	deadweasel	oh, thank you!
15:33	gecko_x2	right.
15:33	gecko_x2	efnet l33t speak..
15:33	jurov	you should definitely come to some ex-Austria-Hungary country. no such bs.
15:34	gecko_x2	i know
15:34	KRS1-	ignored
15:34	deadweasel	Another language... article about beer....
15:34	gecko_x2	just spent 8 years in the baltics
15:34	gecko_x2	and going back for now..
15:34	gecko_x2	later maybe south
15:34	deadweasel	gecko_x2: man, you're losing your grip a little, if you ever had it. If you have meds, take them again. Running away from sick dogs is no way to live.
15:35	gecko_x2	hehe
15:35	deadweasel	plus, wherever you go, there you are....
15:35	gecko_x2	look this rant isn't about asking your opinion
15:35	deadweasel	don't give a shit, here it is.
15:35	gecko_x2	it's just one man telling about his life
15:35	deadweasel	you ain't told us shit about your life. Just a beer tube and sick dogs.
15:35	gecko_x2	no need to get angry or judgemental
15:36	deadweasel	other than you being a little manic, I haven't judged.
15:36	gecko_x2	lol
15:36	gecko_x2	k
15:36	deadweasel	I actually understand you because I have been you.
15:36	gecko_x2	this is irc
15:36	deadweasel	which will probably frighten you.
15:36	deadweasel	because, I'm inside of you, RIGHT NOW.
15:36	gecko_x2	omg
15:36	gecko_x2	RAEP
15:36	gecko_x2	:p
15:37	gecko_x2	lolol
15:37	deadweasel	:)
15:37	gecko_x2	anyways.. time for more music
15:37	deadweasel	ok, enough shirking work. I"m just gonna leave. Nice talking gecko_x2
15:37	gecko_x2	k mas... be good
15:37	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bDN5UIVyQ
15:37	ozbot	Evanescence - Fallen (Full Album) - YouTube
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16:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2}
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16:13	ThickAsThieves	http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/
16:13	ozbot	BetCoin.tm's Allegedly Fraudulent, Unethical and Illegal Activity – Bitcoin Magazine
16:13	ThickAsThieves	but what if betcoin are they guys that bought satoshidice?
16:14	jurov	On the whole, the global Bitcoin space is a self-policing community that uproots and exposes scams and unethical Bitcoin service operators with ruthless efficiency.
16:14	jurov	HAHAHAHAHA
16:15	jborkl	oh damn, that is so untrue
16:15	jborkl	lol
16:18	jurov	"it is important to say that the majority of the bitcoin gambling operators believe in honesty and integrity" oh my
16:18	mircea_popescu	jurov lawl.
16:18	mircea_popescu	bitcoin magazine being the chief example of such.
16:19	mircea_popescu	i don't recall the last time they pushed a scam.
16:21	ThickAsThieves	i do
16:22	ThickAsThieves	vitalik is part of that quantum mining thing
16:22	ThickAsThieves	the article is so trashy also
16:23	ThickAsThieves	like some tabloid rag making wild claims
16:24	mircea_popescu	my sarcastifier ;/
16:25	ThickAsThieves	i know, i chose to desarcastify
16:27	mircea_popescu	"i chose not to run" lol
16:27	mircea_popescu	dude my motherfucking head. this is the last time i kiss on the first date
16:27	mircea_popescu	fucking hussies.
16:28	ThickAsThieves	mp is twitterpated
16:28	mircea_popescu	no, i just got the world's worst flu.
16:28	mircea_popescu	i just blew enough filling for a whole key lime pie out of my nose
16:28	mircea_popescu	same exact color and consistency too
16:28	mircea_popescu	one go!
16:28	ThickAsThieves	ah sinus infection
16:29	ThickAsThieves	remember not to pick your nose after theyve been down someone's pants
16:30	mircea_popescu	how many noses do i have iyo!
16:30	ThickAsThieves	one for each pant
16:30	mircea_popescu	lol
16:31	mircea_popescu	a man, a pant, a canal - panama!
16:32	ThickAsThieves	i have to go to a halloween party
16:32	ThickAsThieves	i think i will be kenny powers
16:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00223999 = 0.28 BTC [-]
16:33	mircea_popescu	cause you're so poor ?
16:33	ThickAsThieves	cause i dont like wearing wacky clothes
16:34	ThickAsThieves	he wears all black and sunglassed pretty much
16:34	ThickAsThieves	sunglasses
16:34	ThickAsThieves	so just need mullet and goatee
16:34	ThickAsThieves	will have to shave my neckbeard for this
16:34	mircea_popescu	i thought kenny got killed anyway
16:34	ThickAsThieves	nope
16:34	ThickAsThieves	he faked his death
16:35	mircea_popescu	wait, i was thinking kenny mccormick
16:35	ThickAsThieves	https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbgDaVLCaBzQ&ei=ieFmUuXIKYT29gTtgoGQDA&usg=AFQjCNE9tyqOxODGGzELM0Ex61Hmd1Ilew&sig2=owzcyjR3NL77wwwr2rs7Gw&bvm=bv.55123115,d.eWU
16:35	mircea_popescu	dude there's no way to dress for halloween easier than sp kenny. all eh wears is an anorak
16:35	ThickAsThieves	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDaVLCaBzQ
16:35	ozbot	BEST OF KENNY POWERS - YouTube
16:38	ThickAsThieves	that best of sucks
16:39	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0057 = 0.2907 BTC [-]
16:39	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.073999 = 0.296 BTC [+]
16:40	Vexual	http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-23/an-gold-found-in-gum-tree-leaves/5039226
16:40	ozbot	CSIRO scientists find gold in Western Australian eucalyptus trees - Australia Network News (Australi
16:41	dub	money grows on trees nao?
16:41	mircea_popescu	does this explain the pandas ?
16:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1596 @ 0.0011499 = 1.8352 BTC [+]
16:42	dub	koalas?
16:42	mircea_popescu	a that ty
16:42	mircea_popescu	whichever azn minibear tat's not fucking
16:43	ThickAsThieves	somebody tell kenilworth
16:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.073999 = 0.74 BTC [+]
16:47	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
16:52	Vexual	i like the shit eating "i get patent cheques" grin of mr koala
16:54	ThickAsThieves	;;nethash
16:54	gribble	3176962.68127
16:54	ThickAsThieves	;;estimate
16:54	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 378407272.822 based on data since last change \| 443809787.464 based on data for last three days
16:55	ThickAsThieves	its odd watching the coinbase btc/usd price
16:56	ThickAsThieves	this morning it was very close to goxprice, but with a $5 spread
16:56	ThickAsThieves	now its like $12 under gox
16:56	Vexual	with a $2 spead
16:59	Vexual	http://www.google.com/finance?q=USDCNY
16:59	ozbot	US Dollar: CURRENCY:USD quotes & news - Google Finance
17:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [-]
17:04	mircea_popescu	skinnkavaj hiow's litecoin doing these days ?
17:05	skinnkavaj	mircea_popescu: It's crashing really hard as expected. From 1st of november the uptrend starts.
17:05	Scrat	ThickAsThieves: if there's an upwards trajectory, they benefit by raising the price
17:05	mircea_popescu	wait, "as expected" now ?
17:05	skinnkavaj	Yes
17:05	mircea_popescu	you're getting a feature piece over this lol.
17:05	skinnkavaj	I said
17:05	skinnkavaj	Low will be
17:05	skinnkavaj	0.007
17:05	skinnkavaj	LTC/BTC
17:06	mircea_popescu	nope. the first time you mentioned this "0.007" was yesterday.
17:06	mircea_popescu	so no, you didn't "say".
17:07	Vexual	license to die?
17:08	Vexual	the names coin
17:08	Vexual	lite coin
17:08	ThickAsThieves	ltc is awesome because when bitcoin goes up, it goes down. And when bitcoin goes down, LTC goes down too. Such a giving lover.
17:09	ThickAsThieves	so now youve got an ocean of ltc speculators all trying to put a ring on her.
17:09	mircea_popescu	poor ltc.
17:09	ThickAsThieves	but all she wants to do is go down
17:10	dub	skinnkavaj = fontas?
17:10	ThickAsThieves	= vancleef=bithub
17:10	dub	oh jesus
17:11	ThickAsThieves	=usagi?
17:11	mircea_popescu	i thoughrt vancleef = madonna
17:11	ThickAsThieves	obv
17:13	taub	keeping the bitstamp orderbook open for too long crashes my firefox
17:13	taub	gah
17:13	taub	but its some interesting shit going down there
17:13	taub	100k being thrown around left and right
17:13	dub	its firefox
17:14	jurov	just bitstamp trying some 'sploits
17:15	mircea_popescu	prolly firefox still leaking memory
17:17	taub	ThickAsThieves: ltc has been sorta steady in terms of $
17:17	taub	1.7-1.8 during this recent btc bull move
17:19	pankkake	that's not very impressive, especially as USD is losing value
17:19	taub	yea
17:20	pankkake	and I guess it's part of the rise of BTC/USD too
17:21	pankkake	I'm glad I don't have USDs in bitstamp :)
17:22	taub	:/
17:22	pankkake	being an eurofag and all
17:23	taub	bfx <> bitstamp price parity has been having troubles
17:23	taub	Not enough USD reserve on Bitstamp, you cannot buy on Bitstamp at the moment.
17:23	taub	hard to trade bfx off bitstamp charts that way
17:23	taub	then again, everybody being thsi long might be a warning flag
17:30	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH4C4mh6RME
17:30	ozbot	Disturbed - Indestructible [Full Album] - YouTube
17:33	pankkake	that's teenager music
17:34	gecko_x2	and who's gonna run this world?
17:34	dub	robots
17:34	dub	not teenagers thats for sure
17:35	gecko_x2	you're gonna die
17:35	dub	useless little cunts
17:35	gecko_x2	and teenagers are gonna run it
17:35	dub	unlikely
17:35	gecko_x2	you must be about 25
17:36	gecko_x2	enjoy while it lasts
17:37	pankkake	teenagers with attitude
17:39	jurov	and starry eyes
17:41	dub	yes, 25
17:41	dub	still a teenager myself
17:41	gecko_x2	then /ignore me immediately
17:41	gecko_x2	and go live
17:42	dub	you lost me at from finland in all honesty
17:42	gecko_x2	u dunno anything about that
17:42	dub	never had a usful encounter with a fin
17:42	gecko_x2	and you shouldn't
17:42	dub	and I find racial stereotypes most efficient
17:43	gecko_x2	has nothing to do with that
17:43	gecko_x2	again
17:43	gecko_x2	don't spend you're time here
17:43	gecko_x2	go and live
17:43	gecko_x2	it's gonna be over in a flash
17:44	gecko_x2	i am death
17:44	gecko_x2	that's why i annoy you
17:44	jurov	i actually was in finland, did not find anything out of ordinary with finnish guys
17:46	gecko_x2	if you've seen the world, you would be aware that any people threat their guests better than their own
17:46	gecko_x2	always
17:46	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/the-dork-of-the-month-award/
17:46	ozbot	The dork of the month award. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:47	dub	clearly never been to 'murica then
17:47	gecko_x2	and clearly never been arrested abroad.
17:47	mircea_popescu	<dub> robots. not teenagers thats for sure <<< that. or meth whores.
17:47	pankkake	lol, that heinlein reference still wats me up
17:47	jurov	not in slovakia. we treat guests and locals woth the same disdain
17:48	jurov	*with . maybe guests even worse
17:48	mircea_popescu	pankkake im not even sure what it's supposed to be
17:48	pankkake	probably because heinlein wrote starship troopers thus is a fascist?
17:48	gecko_x2	lub ur fucking blog mp
17:48	mircea_popescu	i mean... guy was a pretty good sf writer neh ? pushed up the standards./
17:48	gecko_x2	gonna read everything someday
17:48	gecko_x2	but not today
17:48	dub	is the quote formatting all fucked up?
17:48	pankkake	"October 20" you're missing skinnkavaj saying the first line
17:49	mircea_popescu	gecko_x2 it'll be hjard to do, like 5-10mn words in there
17:49	pankkake	actually the formatting is mostly broken
17:49	gecko_x2	well i'll start from jan '13
17:49	jurov	gecko_x2: seriously, visiting finnnish girl asked me why nobody is smiling in the services around here :D
17:49	mircea_popescu	pankkake aty
17:50	mircea_popescu	what did you rtell her ?
17:50	gecko_x2	:)
17:51	gecko_x2	btw
17:51	gecko_x2	mp
17:51	gecko_x2	skinnkavaj = swedish
17:51	gecko_x2	means 'skin suite'
17:51	gecko_x2	swedish is my mother tongue
17:51	mircea_popescu	what's that mean in english ?
17:52	gecko_x2	whaty i just said
17:52	gecko_x2	suit as in fine suit
17:52	pankkake	skin suite? not skin suit?
17:52	gecko_x2	no
17:52	gecko_x2	suit as in armani suit
17:52	gecko_x2	skin suit
17:52	gecko_x2	erm
17:52	gecko_x2	sry
17:52	gecko_x2	suite yes
17:53	gecko_x2	skin suite
17:53	pankkake	I'm lost
17:53	pankkake	anyway, it means skinny vagina
17:53	gecko_x2	i dunno the correct spelling
17:53	gecko_x2	but it means as in the suite you wear for business
17:53	Vexual	this room is no good, can i see a suite?
17:54	gecko_x2	ok just wanted to note
17:54	mircea_popescu	so gecko_x2 a suit is a piece of clothing like i wear, a suite is a hotel arrangement
17:54	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00208678 = 0.2525 BTC [-] {4}
17:54	mircea_popescu	neither of these go with skin. you mean leather ?
17:54	gecko_x2	exactly
17:54	gecko_x2	like i said
17:54	gecko_x2	skin suit
17:54	mircea_popescu	a ok. so leather suit, like on a biker ?
17:54	gecko_x2	yeah
17:54	mircea_popescu	aite. leater, not skin. skin is always on a live animal.
17:54	gecko_x2	skinn = skin
17:55	mircea_popescu	like pig is alive and pork dead.
17:55	gecko_x2	kavai = suit
17:55	gecko_x2	it sounds weird even in native language
17:55	pankkake	so it means furry
17:55	gecko_x2	is why i noticed
17:55	gecko_x2	no
17:55	gecko_x2	suit like in armani suit
17:55	mircea_popescu	pankkake in fairness, i knew this very hot chick that only wore leather pants.
17:55	mircea_popescu	i think it got to be 50 degrees in her crotch.
17:56	gecko_x2	mp i once had one of those in my 2000 audi S8
17:56	gecko_x2	only she carried a small zipbag of coke in her pussy, in her leather pants
17:56	gecko_x2	across the border.
17:57	mircea_popescu	so did it crack under the pressure ?
17:57	gecko_x2	360 BHP freely respirated
17:57	Vexual	lol coke diamonds
17:57	gecko_x2	awd with bosch electronically locked center diff
17:58	mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp7wQP2omi4
17:58	ozbot	Direttore magistrale Duca conte PierMatteo Barambani - YouTube
17:58	mircea_popescu	btw, am i the only fantocci fan here ?
17:58	gecko_x2	top speed limited to 320 kph
17:58	gecko_x2	etc..
17:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00587 = 0.2055 BTC [+]
17:59	jurov	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/the-navys-newest-warship-is-powered-by-linux/ finally found my ideal colo facility :D
18:00	mircea_popescu	ha!
18:00	mircea_popescu	usure it's not osx ?
18:01	pankkake	it would be a full aluminum ship with glowing USA flag if it was
18:01	jurov	dont' matter. as long as it can alunch missiles in case of ddos
18:02	mircea_popescu	lmao if that thing ends up beached because ddos...
18:02	mircea_popescu	ima go visit the wreck.
18:03	kakobrekla	im sure they can avoid it with binoculars
18:05	mircea_popescu	maybe theres no way to get on deck
18:05	mircea_popescu	like those office buildings you can't open the windows of
18:06	Vexual	it looks super fast, is it nuclear powered?
18:08	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.00201001 = 0.2834 BTC [-]
18:09	Vexual	whats the IBS on the schematic?
18:10	Vexual	Id guess Integrated power systems element is the reactor
18:11	gecko_x2	i know you're ignoring me on purpouse mp :p
18:11	gecko_x2	guess i need to find bettar music..
18:11	Vexual	with a sensor data line to mission readiness module
18:12	Vexual	got nuke power? check
18:12	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAXtDPKkOlA
18:12	ozbot	In Flames - Cloud Connected [High Quality] - YouTube
18:12	Vexual	mission readiness confirmed
18:14	Vexual	see if you can find a photo on the internet of a nuclear warship throwing a top speed rooster tail. you can't
18:14	Vexual	top speed is more secret than their computer systems
18:14	pankkake	gecko_x2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_hDxivKrI
18:16	gecko_x2	clicked..
18:16	gecko_x2	increasing vol and leaning back..
18:16	gecko_x2	liking
18:17	kakobrekla	i dont understand what they are singing
18:17	pankkake	pretty much the only melodic death metal that doesn't make me vomit
18:17	gecko_x2	there is calm in your indeciscion
18:18	pankkake	though I prefer their earlier work[/hipster]
18:19	gecko_x2	youtube sidebar gave me lots of memories from this excellent hypocrisy song
18:19	gecko_x2	so thx
18:19	pankkake	I mostly do understand the lyrics
18:19	kakobrekla	yeah you need to put some effort to it
18:20	gecko_x2	look
18:20	pankkake	and then there's the passive learning of listening to it over the years
18:20	gecko_x2	basically all heavy metal is synonymous to bitcoin
18:20	gecko_x2	it's all the same story
18:20	pankkake	you mean precious metal
18:20	kakobrekla	lol
18:20	gecko_x2	it's what we all are preparing for
18:20	gecko_x2	also that yes
18:21	gecko_x2	heavy metal = heavy metal
18:21	kakobrekla	i dont see the heavy metal resembelence
18:21	gecko_x2	it's there man
18:21	pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF69enruobk glorious album, and artwork, and name
18:21	ozbot	Hypocrisy - Penetralia - YouTube
18:21	gecko_x2	it's all the same story
18:21	gecko_x2	u should invite my bud piett over from efnet
18:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.625 BTC [+]
18:21	gecko_x2	he could link you to some real shit
18:22	gecko_x2	like this
18:22	gecko_x2	excellent links, i thankyou
18:22	dub	bitcoin is only 80% smelly neckbeards now haven't you heard
18:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [+]
18:23	pankkake	I'm only smelly 80% of the time
18:23	kakobrekla	80% smelly and 20% neckbeard?
18:24	pankkake	my beard looks naturally good thankfully
18:24	gecko_x2	pankkake try this little nice tune..
18:25	pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4 this is HEAVY metal
18:25	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOebk_dKFo
18:25	ozbot	IMMORTAL (Official) - "ALL SHALL FALL" music video HD - YouTube
18:25	gecko_x2	mine first
18:26	gecko_x2	:p :p
18:26	gecko_x2	i need moar alcohol
18:26	pankkake	well I do go to concerts with earplugs :p
18:26	kakobrekla	yes if by moar you mean less.
18:26	gecko_x2	haha ofcourse
18:26	Scrat	gecko_x2: if you're going to link immortal... why link that one
18:27	gecko_x2	let me drink some less alcohol
18:27	pankkake	you don't listen to sunn o))) with your ears anyway
18:27	Scrat	is abbath's crab walk?
18:27	Scrat	is it*
18:27	soypirate	pankkake: so true
18:27	gecko_x2	haven't clicked pankkake's link yet
18:28	pankkake	I love Immortal, they just don't take themselves seriously
18:28	pankkake	omg 2:28
18:28	gecko_x2	can't click yet
18:28	pankkake	I mean 2:28 of immortal
18:29	Scrat	pankkake: more like 0:45
18:29	Scrat	dat fucking crab walk
18:29	gecko_x2	sexy
18:30	gecko_x2	ok now clicking pankake
18:30	gecko_x2	what are these the elves? :p
18:30	pankkake	bathrobes
18:31	pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEctVHxs34U
18:31	ozbot	Abbath on Church Burnings - YouTube
18:31	gecko_x2	zomg they been in a turkish sauna ? :p
18:32	gecko_x2	nah.. this all good but i'm going retro
18:33	gecko_x2	lub all metal but getting old
18:33	gecko_x2	gonna serve u a surprise
18:33	gecko_x2	i mean i'm getting old
18:33	gecko_x2	not the music..
18:33	pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8 that's when you know it's then end
18:34	gecko_x2	remember this my friends?
18:34	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rd4_GDzNBg
18:34	ozbot	Gorky Park - Moscow Calling (Opening Eurovision 2009) - YouTube
18:34	gecko_x2	LOL
18:34	gecko_x2	ehh fuck it
18:34	gecko_x2	forhet it
18:34	gecko_x2	forget
18:35	gecko_x2	bad link
18:35	soypirate	hehe
18:35	gecko_x2	this is going to shit
18:35	gecko_x2	:D
18:35	gecko_x2	ok
18:36	gecko_x2	let's do something bettar
18:36	soypirate	this guy is the shit:
18:36	soypirate	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZX7EZIFD0
18:36	ozbot	Guildo Horn - Guildo hat euch lieb [Eurovision 1998 - Germany] - YouTube
18:36	gecko_x2	like this mother fucking masterpiece
18:36	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRdFIUIC_sI
18:36	ozbot	Stratovarius - Visions - Full Album - [1997] - YouTube
18:37	soypirate	gecko_x2: nice one
18:37	gecko_x2	:D
18:38	dub	ugg bring back vexual
18:38	Vexual	:)
18:38	pankkake	this chan allows only one drunk at a time
18:39	dub	I'd rather hear outback ozzy serial killer anthems than teen masturbation soundtracks
18:40	gecko_x2	well strato has worked for me in my past weeks of drunorness
18:41	gecko_x2	dunno why
18:41	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 260 @ 0.0011499 = 0.299 BTC [+]
18:41	pankkake	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOBrGj1zw8U I listened to this as a teenager, ew
18:41	ozbot	Thy Majestie - The King And The Warrior - YouTube
18:41	gecko_x2	zomg italian metal
18:41	pankkake	can't be gayer
18:41	gecko_x2	in memory of sam?
18:41	nubbins`	<jurov> On the whole, the global Bitcoin space is a self-policing community that uproots and exposes scams and unethical Bitcoin service operators with ruthless efficiency.
18:41	pankkake	hehe
18:41	nubbins`	ahahaha
18:42	nubbins`	my sides
18:42	nubbins`	where's that from?
18:42	jurov	the link above that
18:42	pankkake	I'm calling for a labcoin witch hunt, but the actual victims still don't want it
18:42	jurov	mircea_popescu: withdrawals please
18:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.07398 = 0.6658 BTC [-]
18:43	gecko_x2	mmm ruthless
18:43	gecko_x2	i liek dat word
18:44	gecko_x2	smoke bbl
18:45	nubbins`	pankkake: you're just trying to sabotage the sweet divs
18:45	nubbins`	like 52 satoshi per share last time i think?
18:46	pankkake	something like it, I can't see them in my cryptostocks account because they are too low
18:46	nubbins`	heh
18:47	nubbins`	well, ya know. people don't wanna admit they got scammed. they'd much rather just pretend it's not happening
18:48	pankkake	I understand that, I have a hard time simply admitting I made a bad decision
18:48	mircea_popescu	pankkake https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/can_i_be_truste.html
18:48	pankkake	but perhaps that mean I'm/they're not cut for the job
18:48	mircea_popescu	so much fun to be had on the internets.
18:48	pankkake	and no one's mentionning you
18:50	mircea_popescu	depends what you mean by mentioning me.
18:53	gecko_x2	virtuals is my bud
18:53	gecko_x2	remember that
18:53	gecko_x2	and he's on the case of labcoin
18:53	gecko_x2	he's the only irl bud i can talk about this shit to
18:54	gecko_x2	totally aware
18:54	gecko_x2	just wanted to say..
18:54	nubbins`	i need to figure out how to make wallpaper paste that's easily removable from walls
18:57	mircea_popescu	you can't unscrew a lightbulb.
18:59	nubbins`	well, that's more for lack of trying
18:59	nubbins`	we're planning to do a seripop-style art installation at an event next month, and i'd love to paper the walls of the bar, but i don't think the bar will appreciate having things permanently affixed to its walls
19:08	AndrewJackson	Nubbins, paint your walls with watered down paste first, then the paper will come off easy
19:13	nubbins`	yeah, i'm reading something now that says weak cornstarch paste will allow easy removal if i paint the walls rather than the paper
19:13	nubbins`	guess i should experiment some
19:15	Vexual	http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=04f_1366644470
19:15	ozbot	LiveLeak.com - Stupid Balkan guy "Tihomir" + hammer drill = FAIL
19:16	nubbins`	http://seripop.com/projects/uncountable-not-comparable/
19:16	ozbot	Seripop - Yannick Desranleau and Chloe Lum - Uncountable (Not Comparable)
19:16	nubbins`	those guys do some crazy shit with paper
19:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07399 = 0.296 BTC [+]
19:23	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 405 @ 0.0011499 = 0.4657 BTC [+]
19:24	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [+]
19:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.07399 = 0.8879 BTC [+]
19:35	Vexual	nubbins why not fix the artwork to removable board?
19:35	dub	fucking google
19:36	dub	my phone has turned into rage bait overnight
19:38	Vexual	get ubuntu
19:38	dub	fuck ubuntu
19:39	nubbins`	vexual, we're talking BIG artwork
19:39	Vexual	3mm mdf is cheap
19:39	nubbins`	although that would work if the bar won't let us paste the walls
19:40	nubbins`	corrugated plastic might be an option too
19:40	Vexual	much lighter too, you could fix it with 3m double sided tape
19:40	nubbins`	hmmmm.....
19:41	nubbins`	gears turning, etc
19:41	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCAgbkoEPMQ
19:41	ozbot	W.A.S.P. - The Headless Children (FULL ALBUM) - YouTube
19:41	nubbins`	we wanna put up large versions of these guys puking rainbows all over the bar: http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hzvrd-imgur.jpg
19:46	dub	http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/NFxVP5a_dG8
19:46	ozbot	Google Groups
19:46	Vexual	if you want to get real tricky, you could cut shapes into the corflute so that the slightly noticeable grain of the stuff follows the rainbows
19:47	mircea_popescu	get those superflat printable lcd things
19:48	nubbins`	we were thinking of printing large rectangles of paper with horizontal rainbow stripes, and overlapping them on various angles to make the rainbows swerve in different directions
19:48	nubbins`	wouldn't really work without pasting directly to the walls though
19:48	nubbins`	although, i suppose we could cut the corflute (!) into curved shapes & just join them together
19:49	Vexual	stick each rectangle to the corflute and arrange them to the wall as separate rectangles
19:50	nubbins`	hmm
19:51	nubbins`	if we cut the corflute rectangles on a diagonal, we'd have triangles which could be flipped around to create nice curves
19:51	nubbins`	http://seripop.com/projects/hording-skin/
19:51	ozbot	Seripop - Yannick Desranleau and Chloe Lum - Hoarding Skin
19:51	mircea_popescu	so good news : asciilifeform has fixed phuctor. it works about a degree of magnitude faster now. basicvally no keys are waiting anymore.
19:51	nubbins`	^ that's ALL PAPER
19:58	Vexual	cardboard would work too
19:59	nubbins`	at that point, could just tape the paper to the walls, i guess
19:59	Vexual	but white corflute could be illuminated from behind
19:59	nubbins`	WHOA
19:59	nubbins`	yes it could
20:00	Vexual	$5 fairy lights
20:00	nubbins`	in fact, our washout booth has a backlit corflute wall
20:00	nubbins`	even the dimmest light shines through
20:00	nubbins`	oh my god, this is going to be amazing
20:00	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
20:01	nubbins`	i'm sure there's a bot in an apple chan somewhere that screams MAGICAL DEVICE! every time someone says "magical"
20:01	Vexual	i want photos
20:01	nubbins`	and photos you shall get
20:02	nubbins`	aiming for late november
20:04	nubbins`	we actually have some stands left over from a multi-layered glass project that could be useful for holding corflute sheets
20:04	nubbins`	hmmmmmm
20:04	nubbins`	this gives me a lot to think about
20:04	mircea_popescu	amazing #bitcoin-assets
20:04	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
20:05	Vexual	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhJ9c-pFoI
20:05	ozbot	MAGIC FOUNTAIN (Official Video) - Art vs Science - YouTube
20:09	nubbins`	lel
20:09	nubbins`	that video just spurred an impromptu dance party
20:09	mircea_popescu	mod6 how's urbit these days btw ? you been keeping any track ?
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20:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.638415 = 3.8305 BTC [+] {5}
20:31	BingoBoingo	Oh, Schneier approved my comment. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/can_i_be_truste.html#c2003318
20:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 21 @ 0.07399 = 1.5538 BTC [+]
20:32	gecko_x2	nice
20:32	mircea_popescu	lol you're special. people were complaining he ate their comments earlier.
20:32	gecko_x2	i trust u all know schneier's history and who he is
20:32	gecko_x2	mp?
20:33	gecko_x2	anyways
20:33	mircea_popescu	ianae
20:33	gecko_x2	nice.
20:33	mircea_popescu	but more or less.
20:33	gecko_x2	schneier is the original crypto guy in our generation
20:33	gecko_x2	there is nobody higher really
20:33	gecko_x2	atleast publically
20:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.07399 = 0.4439 BTC [+]
20:34	gecko_x2	his blog is the original public crypto blog
20:34	gecko_x2	the primary enemy of the NSA and the illuminati
20:34	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.073999 = 1.184 BTC [+]
20:35	gecko_x2	so.. nice.
20:35	mircea_popescu	a yeah. kinda went downhill since 2004 tho
20:35	gecko_x2	schneier was involved in smuggling the original PGP source code outside of us borders
20:36	gecko_x2	they did it by printing it out on A4's and physically mailing it
20:36	gecko_x2	back then the pentagon defined him as enemy of the state
20:36	gecko_x2	he later fought off those charges in US courts
20:37	gecko_x2	during the 80's
20:37	gecko_x2	would never be possible today
20:37	mircea_popescu	aren't you confusing him with zimmermann ?
20:37	gecko_x2	umm yes
20:37	gecko_x2	but this isn't clear
20:38	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 27 @ 0.075 = 2.025 BTC [+]
20:38	gecko_x2	schneier was zimm's bud
20:38	gecko_x2	so we dunno
20:38	gecko_x2	afaik
20:38	BingoBoingo	Schneier is just the Dude who submits algorithms to NIST competitions and never makes it past second place.
20:38	gecko_x2	i trust schneier more than zimm
20:40	gecko_x2	look
20:40	gecko_x2	the surname zimmerman is jewish
20:41	gecko_x2	sch is nit jew
20:41	gecko_x2	not*
20:41	gecko_x2	no jew surname begins with sch
20:41	gecko_x2	aka zion, aka illuminati
20:43	mircea_popescu	gecko_gs2 for the record, schneier was like 17 in 1980.
20:44	gecko_x2	noted
20:44	gecko_x2	still
20:44	gecko_x2	zimmerman, spielberg, lucas
20:45	gecko_x2	all zionists
20:45	gecko_x2	bunot sch
20:45	gecko_x2	but not*
20:45	gecko_x2	afak
20:45	gecko_x2	afaik
20:45	gecko_x2	damn i need more alcohol and music :D
20:46	gecko_x2	schneier is german
20:46	gecko_x2	arian
20:48	gecko_x2	now the zionists form the basis of the illuminati
20:49	gecko_x2	and the banker system known as the city of london
20:49	gecko_x2	'the city' being the key word
20:50	gecko_x2	and yes, the huge dildo shaped building in london really does represent a penis
20:50	gecko_x2	that's how these guys work
20:53	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6455 BTC [+]
20:53	gecko_x2	their latest trick is called 'the shard'
20:53	gecko_x2	it represents themselves fucking the ppl in the world in the anus with a broken glass bottle
20:54	gecko_x2	you can look it up.
20:55	gecko_x2	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shard
20:56	KRS1	yeah, and the phone company killed kennedy.
20:56	gecko_x2	what
20:56	gecko_x2	kennedy wanted to introduce debt free money
20:56	gecko_x2	and so he was taken out
20:56	gecko_x2	that's all there is to it
20:57	gecko_x2	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh3nO6-V_A
20:57	ozbot	Metallica - Whiskey in the jar - YouTube
20:57	KRS1	I think it was Northeastern Bell.
20:58	gecko_x2	Bell = illuminati
20:58	gecko_x2	the shape of a church bell represents the shape of their power structure
20:59	gecko_x2	the narrow top, the wide middle part and then the scum of the earth
21:00	KRS1	I think it was corporate or maybe one of their subsidiaries. Maybe billing.
21:00	gecko_x2	every church you visit on the earth has it's doors shaped in a certain way
21:00	gecko_x2	that shape represents the vagina
21:00	KRS1	Just had to make a new tinfoil hat. My old one fell apart.
21:00	KRS1	this one fits much better.
21:00	dub	I've lost count if this guy is trolling or an acutal fruitcake
21:01	gecko_x2	you all know how every church door is shaped with the pointy top
21:01	gecko_x2	represents the vagina and the clit
21:01	KRS1	he's got a lot of energy, he was talking all this jazz when i left the office at 4:30
21:01	gecko_x2	that's why men used to leave all their weapons outside
21:01	KRS1	just don't mention Finland.
21:02	gecko_x2	:\
21:02	gecko_x2	i assure you it's all true.
21:02	KRS1	Of course it is.
21:02	KRS1	I'm with ya bro.
21:02	gecko_x2	:P
21:02	gecko_x2	i'm not boosting my ego
21:03	gecko_x2	just stating the obvious
21:03	gecko_x2	you go to any capital on this planet
21:03	gecko_x2	look up the biggest building there is
21:03	gecko_x2	and it's one of 7 banks
21:03	gecko_x2	try it and u see
21:04	KRS1	hmm.
21:04	gecko_x2	any capital
21:04	gecko_x2	biggest building
21:04	dub	fails in my country
21:04	gecko_x2	look at the logo
21:04	gecko_x2	which is?
21:05	dub	its not finland
21:05	gecko_x2	ofcourse, you have to know the etymology of the word 'bank'
21:05	dub	of course
21:06	gecko_x2	do you know where that comes from?
21:06	dub	let me guess, if its made of concrete and steel its secretly a bank
21:06	gecko_x2	before humanity knew of that word, all 'banks' were called credit anzthalt'
21:06	mircea_popescu	dub same root as bankruptcy, italian (lombard) middle ages.
21:06	gecko_x2	but that word was born in london england
21:07	asciilifeform	banca, money changer's bench. thought everybody knew that one.
21:07	gecko_x2	where they figured out that it's useful to build your gold deposit house on top of a hill
21:07	gecko_x2	or 'bank' in brittish english
21:07	mircea_popescu	gecko_gs2 nah.
21:08	gecko_x2	because it was easier to fend off the ppl rushing to the place once they realized that they had issued much more receits for the gold than there actually was gold
21:08	gecko_x2	building the vault on a 'bank' or a hill was a good idea because it slowed the ppl down, and made it easier to push them down with sharp sticks
21:09	gecko_x2	when there was a 'bank run'
21:09	mircea_popescu	no dood. banca yielded banque in french, and either or both of these yielded bank in english
21:09	mircea_popescu	sometime around 1500 or so
21:09	gecko_x2	no.
21:09	gecko_x2	no no no
21:09	dub	finland says no
21:09	gecko_x2	that's all 'official'
21:09	mircea_popescu	lol
21:10	gecko_x2	all 'official' stuff u learn in school is a lie
21:10	gecko_x2	the word bank comes from the bank of england
21:10	gecko_x2	which was the first gold vault to be built upon a hill
21:10	gecko_x2	to make it easier to fend off the people
21:11	gecko_x2	with sharp spears
21:11	gecko_x2	know your histiry dudes
21:11	gecko_x2	your REAL history
21:11	dub	he right
21:12	KRS1	idk we just some dumb bitcoin monkeys what do we know
21:12	mircea_popescu	so what's the alternative etymology fior bankruptcy then ?
21:12	mircea_popescu	hill got ruptured ?
21:12	gecko_x2	pretty much yeah
21:13	gecko_x2	there is a even more interesting etymology that ties into this
21:13	mircea_popescu	gecko_gs2 you ever been in the old bank of england building ?
21:13	gecko_x2	if you want to know, or should i stfu?
21:13	gecko_x2	mp nope.
21:13	mircea_popescu	well... you'd have known its not actually on a hill.
21:13	gecko_x2	the real history of the tie
21:13	dub	if you fold up the bank does it look like twin towers?
21:13	dub	I bet it does
21:13	gecko_x2	mp afaik it actually was
21:14	mircea_popescu	how the fuck it actually was, it's close enough to the thames.
21:14	gecko_x2	but i'm no expert.. i just like etymology
21:14	gecko_x2	and i really like to know the TRUE reason for things
21:15	gecko_x2	which is not the same as you are thought through these school books
21:15	gecko_x2	what was that main publisher again
21:16	mircea_popescu	but you know, some proposed reason doersn't become true just because it contradicts the common answer.
21:16	dub	dood it becomes true when alx jones screams it
21:16	gecko_x2	dun remember, anyways check the back's of every school book published in the west
21:17	mircea_popescu	anyway. the old lady of threadneedle street.
21:17	gecko_x2	and it will lead you back to the illuminati
21:17	mircea_popescu	aka the company and governor of the bank of england
21:17	gecko_x2	this is not aj data
21:17	gecko_x2	not at all
21:18	gecko_x2	but aj is right in his own way
21:18	gecko_x2	ah
21:18	gecko_x2	was it gummerus
21:18	gecko_x2	and wellin & göös or something
21:18	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-]
21:18	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5073 @ 0.00085765 = 4.3509 BTC [-]
21:18	gecko_x2	every school book in the north
21:19	dub	for the love of god, shut the fuck up
21:19	gecko_x2	lol
21:19	gecko_x2	k
21:19	dub	and preferably kill yourself immediately
21:19	gecko_x2	:(
21:19	Vexual	do the spears msut be spharp?
21:20	gecko_x2	i didn't like that dub
21:20	gecko_x2	i go away now
21:20	dub	yet you live on..
21:20	Vexual	and thats why we have skyscrapers
21:21	gecko_x2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWgHEbQsGw
21:21	ozbot	Ratt- Dance - YouTube
21:23	mircea_popescu	anyway, the notion of putting a bank uphill is silly... all the customers'd get tired hauling all the gold
21:23	mircea_popescu	you want it low down
21:24	Vexual	security by gravity
21:24	KRS1	Anyone here know anything about trading gold
21:29	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 727 @ 0.00085934 = 0.6247 BTC [+]
21:30	gecko_x2	uhh mp
21:30	gecko_x2	the origins of fractional reserves stems from the gold receits in amsterdam
21:31	gecko_x2	where the ppl stored their gold in a safe vault for a receit
21:31	gecko_x2	later they noticed that periodically there was always a bank run
21:32	gecko_x2	when the ppl noticed that there were way more receits than there could ever be gold
21:32	gecko_x2	and so they built the bank vault on a hill to slow the ppl down once they came running
21:32	nubbins`	my sides
21:33	Vexual	theres no hills in amsterdam
21:33	gecko_x2	no
21:33	gecko_x2	but in london there is
21:33	mod6	when i think of finland: http://i.qkme.me/3u7ql0.jpg
21:34	asciilifeform	mod6: whatever happened to that fellow?
21:34	gecko_x2	nice.
21:34	mod6	probably eaten by a grue.
21:34	mod6	or got his dick stuck in an iceberg.
21:34	gecko_x2	"The Bank's headquarters have been in London's main financial district, the City of London, on Threadneedle Street, since 1734. It is sometimes known by the metonym The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street or The Old Lady, a name taken from the legend of Sarah Whitehead, whose ghost is said to haunt the Bank's garden.[12] The busy road junction outside is known as Bank junction."
21:35	mircea_popescu	mod6 honestly, all finn chicks i ever met were pretty hot and kinda slutty
21:35	dub	http://p.bfram.es/finland-be-afraid-be-very-afraid.jpg
21:35	mircea_popescu	nice skin too
21:35	gecko_x2	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England
21:35	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform im pretty sure it was a sa op and got neatly closed.
21:35	dub	isnt there like 9 chicks to every dude
21:35	mircea_popescu	dub possibly. perkele.
21:35	gecko_x2	"When the idea and reality of the National Debt came about during the 18th century this was also managed by the Bank. By the charter renewal in 1781 it was also the bankers' bank – keeping enough gold to pay its notes on demand until 26 February 1797 when war had so diminished gold reserves that the government prohibited the Bank from paying out in gold. This prohibition lasted until
21:35	gecko_x2	1821."
21:36	mod6	huh, well that seems like a saving grace.
21:36	mircea_popescu	gecko_gs2 no, actually, it weas much earlier. the 1711 south sea bubble was a mostly failed attempt to finance the english natl debt with paper.
21:37	mircea_popescu	there had been a natl debt since there was a nation. everywhere.
21:37	gecko_x2	gold was before debt
21:37	gecko_x2	gold carries no debt
21:38	gecko_x2	only storing gold carries debt
21:38	gecko_x2	and storing it.. they tried with holes foro ages
21:38	gecko_x2	for*
21:38	gecko_x2	until they realized a bank was much better than a hole
21:39	gecko_x2	because when the ppl come storming, you dont want to sit in a hole
21:39	gecko_x2	you want to be uphill
21:39	nubbins`	sitting in a bank
21:39	nubbins`	exchanging bitcoins in the lobby
21:39	gecko_x2	right
21:39	Vexual	id rather be in a hole
21:40	mircea_popescu	i never heard of a foxhill...
21:40	nubbins`	does the hole have pens you can use?
21:40	gecko_x2	i don't know if any of you know that 'the city' really means
21:41	gecko_x2	are you aware that today the city has their own police force, their own army, their own justice system and their own judges?
21:41	gecko_x2	if you take a trip to london tomorrow
21:41	mircea_popescu	and their own obgyns ?
21:41	gecko_x2	and walk into 'the city'
21:41	nubbins`	hahaha
21:41	gecko_x2	and do something to get arrested
21:42	gecko_x2	the police that arrest you will carry guns
21:42	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00085372 = 2.5612 BTC [-]
21:42	gecko_x2	which the rest of the english police do not
21:42	nubbins`	police not carrying guns is sort of the exception
21:42	gecko_x2	because they are a separate police force from a separate legal juridistiction
21:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8696 @ 0.0011499 = 9.9995 BTC [+] {2}
21:43	gecko_x2	you need to be aware of this shit my friends
21:43	mircea_popescu	http://nypost.com/2013/10/06/city-park-police-want-to-carry-guns/‎
21:44	gecko_x2	the city has their own army too
21:44	gecko_x2	headquarters are called MI5
21:44	gecko_x2	the rest of england's secret service is called MI6
21:45	gecko_x2	2 different entities
21:45	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 818 @ 0.00223965 = 1.832 BTC [+] {7}
21:45	nubbins`	"We’re police officers without the salary, the title and the gun."
21:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1000 @ 0.0001402 = 0.1402 BTC [-] {2}
21:46	gecko_x2	in bond movies they are always referring to MI6
21:46	gecko_x2	never ever referring to MI5
21:46	gecko_x2	that's also by design
21:47	gecko_x2	you need to learn your fucking history
21:47	dub	have you got kids?
21:47	gecko_x2	it's 4:47 am here
21:47	gecko_x2	what do you think?
21:48	dub	I guess that means no, how much bitcion would it take to have you sterilised?
21:48	KRS1	HAHA
21:48	gecko_x2	oh.. nice one
21:48	dub	seriously, the genome is broken enough without you polluting it further
21:48	gecko_x2	k
21:49	gecko_x2	i go afk now then
21:49	dub	have you considered homosexuality?
21:49	gecko_x2	do we have a change agent here?
21:49	gecko_x2	who cares.. cyas
21:51	Vexual	he makes a good point tho
21:52	KRS1	just shh vexual dont get him started again
21:53	KRS1	the IQ of this channel went down about 30
21:53	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4312 @ 0.00085324 = 3.6792 BTC [-] {2}
21:56	Vexual	id think he will have confused himself into unconciousness soon
21:58	gecko_x2	"bank (n.1)
21:58	gecko_x2	"financial institution," late 15c., from either Old Italian banca or Middle French banque (itself from the Italian word), both meaning "table" (the notion is of the moneylender's exchange table), from a Germanic source (cf. Old High German bank "bench"); see bank (n.2)."
21:59	gecko_x2	"Bank holiday is from 1871, though the tradition is as old as the Bank of England. To cry all the way to the bank was coined 1956 by flamboyant pianist Liberace, after a Madison Square Garden concert that was packed with patrons but panned by critics."
21:59	gecko_x2	"bank (n.2)
21:59	gecko_x2	"earthen incline, edge of a river," c.1200, probably in Old English but not attested in surviving documents, from a Scandinavian source such as Old Norse banki, Old Danish banke "sandbank," from Proto-Germanic bangkon "slope," cognate with bankiz "shelf" (see bench (n.))."
21:59	gecko_x2	"bank (v.)
21:59	gecko_x2	"to act as a banker," 1727, from bank (n.1). As "to deposit in a bank" from 1833. Figurative sense of "to rely on" (i.e. "to put money on") is from 1884, U.S. colloquial. Meaning "to ascend," as of an incline, is from 1892. In aeronautics, from 1911. Related: Banked; banking."
22:00	dub	he's gone full retard
22:01	gecko_x2	"Meaning "to ascend," as of an incline"
22:01	gecko_x2	there u go buddy
22:01	gecko_x2	coming to you buddy
22:02	gecko_x2	bench (n.)
22:02	gecko_x2	Old English benc "long seat," from Proto-Germanic bankiz "bank of earth," perhaps here "man-made earthwork," later "bench, table" (cf. Old Frisian bank "bench," Old Norse bekkr, Danish bænk, Middle Dutch banc, Old High German banch), from PIE root bheg- "to break." Used for "office of a judge" since late 13c. Sporting sense "reserve of players" (in baseball, North American football,
22:02	gecko_x2	etc.) is by 1909, from literal sense of place where players sit when not in action (by 1889).
22:02	gecko_x2	bench (v.)
22:02	gecko_x2	"to take out of the game," 1902, from bench (n.) in the sporting sense. Related: Benched; benching. Old English also had a verb form, but it meant "to make benches."
22:03	gecko_x2	bank = man made hill
22:03	gecko_x2	there u go buddy
22:03	gecko_x2	now i goto bed :p
22:04	gecko_x2	"bed (v.)
22:04	gecko_x2	Old English beddian "to provide with a bed or lodgings," from bed (n.). From c.1300 as "to go to bed," also "to copulate with, to go to bed with;" 1440 as "to lay out (land) in plots or beds." Related: Bedded; bedding."
22:04	gecko_x2	bed (n.)
22:04	gecko_x2	Old English bedd "bed, couch, resting place, garden plot," from Proto-Germanic badjam "sleeping place dug in the ground" (cf. Old Frisian, Old Saxon bed, Middle Dutch bedde, Old Norse beðr, Old High German betti, German Bett, Gothic badi "bed"), from PIE root bhedh- "to dig, pierce" (cf. Hittite beda- "to pierce, prick," Greek bothyros "pit," Latin fossa "ditch," Lithuanian bedre
22:04	gecko_x2	"to dig," Breton bez "grave"). Both "sleeping" and "gardening" senses are in Old English. Meaning "bottom of a lake, sea, watercourse" is from 1580s.
22:04	KRS1	good god are you trying to fill up the logs or something
22:04	KRS1	u might be more annoying than that other gecko from the insurance commercials.
22:05	gecko_x2	that lizard is funny
22:05	gecko_x2	i'm not
22:05	KRS1	nope
22:05	KRS1	not entertaining in the least bit.
22:05	gecko_x2	coming to you buddy
22:05	gecko_x2	i been watching strike back
22:05	gecko_x2	the best tv action serie evar.
22:10	nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/cbc-stories-on-leaked-report-irresponsible-minister-1.2159429
22:11	ozbot	CBC stories on leaked report 'irresponsible': minister - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
22:16	adis99	hey can we remove password on the new bet?
22:16	adis99	http://bitbet.us/bet/570/bitcoin-will-drop-back-below-150-before-end/
22:16	ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin will drop back below $150 before end of 2013
22:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.6489 = 5.8401 BTC [+] {3}
22:17	BingoBoingo	adis99: It seems essentially by publishing the password.
22:18	adis99	in comments?
22:22	nubbins`	man, i just watched the video from that cbc article and it's making my brain hurt
22:22	BingoBoingo	adis99: Do you have a better place to publish it?
22:24	adis99	well i didnt mean to make it private ;)
22:24	adis99	i dont mind if its unlocked or password published
22:25	BingoBoingo	adis99: I'm kind of wondering why they allowed such a puny bet to be protected from market forces.
22:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-]
22:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-]
22:46	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00084879 = 5.0927 BTC [-] {2}
22:49	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4912 @ 0.00085327 = 4.1913 BTC [+] {2}
22:52	adis99	sry lost internet
22:53	adis99	so you guys think Bitcoin price will go below 150 USD or not?
22:54	gecko_x2	absolutely
22:55	gecko_x2	after it goes to $2000 first
22:55	gecko_x2	maybe even NINE THOUSAND
22:56	gecko_x2	look mr. adis99
22:56	gecko_x2	the mere fact that you ask this question practically guarantees the outcome
22:57	gecko_x2	by the laws of the universe
22:57	gecko_x2	but you dont know when
22:57	gecko_x2	that's the real question
22:57	gecko_x2	WHEN will it go to 150
22:57	adis99	well let me specify, by the end of this year?
22:57	gecko_x2	and when it gores there, what will 150 mean?
22:58	gecko_x2	oh
22:58	gecko_x2	well. no.
22:58	gecko_x2	or maybe yes
22:58	adis99	how can you be sure?
22:58	gecko_x2	but then again, if that happens
22:58	adis99	ohh ok
22:58	gecko_x2	what will 150 be worth?
22:58	gecko_x2	what will it mean?
22:58	adis99	it that happens i win bet
22:58	adis99	:P
22:58	gecko_x2	will it equal 300 od today?
22:58	gecko_x2	or more?
22:58	gecko_x2	or less?
22:59	gecko_x2	you see
22:59	gecko_x2	in this life, everything you think will happen will happen
22:59	gecko_x2	because you are the life itself
22:59	gecko_x2	you see?
22:59	gecko_x2	now, i go for a smoke
23:00	adis99	i see, sounds like you a a philosopher ;)
23:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
23:00	gecko_x2	no i just hate the illuminist black magicians
23:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.64737498 = 5.179 BTC [+] {2}
23:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.64889999 = 6.489 BTC [+] {4}
23:08	KRS1	oh god again
23:08	KRS1	dude go to #illuminati or something
23:13	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0008601 = 3.4404 BTC [+]
23:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1825 @ 0.00014894 = 0.2718 BTC [+]
23:16	BingoBoingo	TheSeven: How is Amazing Labcoin Amazing along on Cryptostocks?
23:20	Kleeck_	Amazing, really.
23:21	BingoBoingo	Kleeck_: You try the Phuctor yet?
23:22	Kleeck_	No sir.
23:22	Kleeck_	How do I phuct the phuctor?
23:32	BingoBoingo	Kleeck_: First or Fist you have a GPG public key you paste into http://nosuchlabs.com then you bookmark it and return to check it periodically, and so the Phuctor works.
23:33	Kleeck_	Why do I care about Phuctor?
23:33	Kleeck_	aside from the awesome name?
23:36	BingoBoingo	Kleeck_: Because it offers a service that was wanted.I tells you if public keys were obviously weak. It is amazingly more valuable to test your correspondents keys than your own since encryption depends on theirs anyway.
23:36	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
23:36	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6589 BTC [+]
23:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00199999 = 0.11 BTC [-]
23:49	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.0008601 = 7.3539 BTC [+]
23:51	BingoBoingo	Luke-Jr: Any thoughts on Phuctor>

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