Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-10-24 | 2013-10-26 → ↓
00:00 nubbins` huh, bit of a price cut on those casascius silver/gold coins
00:00 nubbins` http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1447/eqoq.jpg
00:00 nubbins` they look slick
00:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.90444827 = 22.6112 BTC [-] {5}
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.89335714 = 12.507 BTC [-] {4}
00:07 ChaangNoi i ordered a roll
00:08 ChaangNoi i like how they are a bit different from my older gold B silver casa coins
00:09 ChaangNoi anyone happen to have a first day funded brass 1 btc casas coin?
00:12 nubbins` i wish
00:13 nubbins` have you opened your roll of special 0.5 silvers yet? ;)
00:13 nubbins` oh! i was also wondering if your iceberg & whale coins showed up after
00:15 ChaangNoi i did get the whale coins, i was too late or something for the icebergs
00:16 ChaangNoi i got my 1 silvers, the .5 silver and the .1 silver, now just waiting for the gold silvers but they have been shipped
00:16 ChaangNoi too many damn rolls and i ahve not opened any of them
00:16 nubbins` heh
00:17 nubbins` the gold/silver ones are something like 6 BTC cheaper per roll
00:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00888998 = 0.2845 BTC [+]
00:18 ChaangNoi well,they are the only ones for sale now
00:19 ChaangNoi i think he only has 700 of the gold ones
00:19 ChaangNoi not sure on the others
00:19 ChaangNoi iv lost track, too busy and i just keep buying
00:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00888998 = 0.1333 BTC [+]
00:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.95446627 = 23.8617 BTC [+] {8}
00:32 nubbins` yeah, 700
00:33 nubbins` sorry, i'd be talking to you about those certs here but it requires a lot of "hmm"ing and scribbling of numbers
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.96999 = 5.8199 BTC [+]
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00840001 = 0.5628 BTC [-]
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00823636 = 0.3624 BTC [-] {2}
00:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00082755 = 1.1586 BTC [-] {2}
00:51 nubbins` time for sleep
01:00 ChaangNoi np
01:00 ChaangNoi i was not even here lol
01:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00825001 = 0.3053 BTC [-]
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01:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.0086 = 1.118 BTC [+]
01:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00864102 = 0.2938 BTC [+] {2}
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.00888997 = 0.1156 BTC [+]
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95999999 = 2.88 BTC [-]
01:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 215 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
01:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00888997 = 0.8445 BTC [+] {2}
01:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00888997 = 0.889 BTC [+] {2}
01:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0087 = 0.87 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-]
01:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00862515 = 1.3024 BTC [-] {2}
01:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.00828104 = 0.9523 BTC [-] {3}
01:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00869997 = 0.2001 BTC [+]
01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-]
02:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-]
02:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00869998 = 0.87 BTC [+]
02:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-]
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.0512 = 0.4608 BTC [-] {2}
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00082723 = 3.2676 BTC [-] {2}
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02:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-]
02:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.92109166 = 11.0531 BTC [-] {2}
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02:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.87185599 = 34.8742 BTC [-] {11}
02:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1110 @ 0.00802244 = 8.9049 BTC [-] {12}
02:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
02:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-]
02:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.008 = 1.248 BTC [-] {3}
02:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8515 = 1.703 BTC [-] {2}
02:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.85013333 = 12.752 BTC [-] {2}
03:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.85 = 5.95 BTC [-]
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03:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00795 = 0.795 BTC [-]
03:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 561 @ 0.00791742 = 4.4417 BTC [-] {3}
03:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-]
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-]
03:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.007916 = 0.3483 BTC [-]
03:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.007916 = 2.3748 BTC [-]
03:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84899999 = 1.698 BTC [-]
03:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.84899999 = 16.131 BTC [-] {2}
03:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+]
03:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84999999 = 1.7 BTC [+]
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.80299999 = 5.621 BTC [-] {5}
03:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.8075 = 4.845 BTC [+] {6}
03:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00015725 = 0.3931 BTC [+]
03:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00799 = 0.1438 BTC [+]
03:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
03:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1343 BTC [+] {2}
04:02 b0n1 someone here trading giftcards in larger amounts?
04:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00799 = 0.2797 BTC [+]
04:10 afqe212 뭐하니 얘들아
04:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+]
04:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+]
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04:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.86 = 1.72 BTC [+]
04:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.865 = 1.73 BTC [+]
04:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00799 = 0.5673 BTC [+]
04:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00013276 = 1.3276 BTC [-] {3}
04:57 pankkake http://coinmd.org/
04:57 ozbot CoinMD - medical consultations and advice for Bitcoin
04:59 dub oh dear
04:59 dub obitgyn?
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05:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007915 = 0.7915 BTC [-]
05:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00781011 = 0.3905 BTC [-] {3}
~ 24 minutes ~
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082909 = 3.4822 BTC [+] {2}
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06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87600998 = 1.752 BTC [+] {2}
06:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 565 @ 0.00114799 = 0.6486 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
06:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00787 = 0.3778 BTC [-]
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00787 = 0.4014 BTC [-]
06:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00787 = 0.1731 BTC [-]
06:54 kakobrekla anyone heard of peercover?
06:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00209361 = 1.0468 BTC [-] {4}
06:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078194 = 0.7819 BTC [-] {2}
06:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87589999 = 1.7518 BTC [-]
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.0020998 = 0.4431 BTC [+] {3}
07:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.87590845 = 11.3868 BTC [+] {3}
07:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 358 @ 0.00798997 = 2.8604 BTC [+] {2}
07:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 442 @ 0.00859483 = 3.7989 BTC [+] {3}
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0746 = 0.373 BTC [+]
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07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00859998 = 0.3956 BTC [+]
07:17 KRS1 yawn
07:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00805025 = 0.2979 BTC [-]
07:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00083038 = 5.2314 BTC [+]
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1017 BTC [-]
07:29 kakobrekla this been discussed? https://peercover.com
07:31 kleeck Interesting.
07:31 mircea_popescu blank page.
07:31 mircea_popescu lots of js ?
07:31 kakobrekla i think this wants to be btcjam for ripple
07:31 kakobrekla =?
07:31 kakobrekla or am i missing something
07:32 kakobrekla doesnt work in O.
07:33 mircea_popescu btcjam for ripple. the internet is getting meta.
07:35 kakobrekla well without registering i dunno, i see 'facebook, linkedin and dwolla' also 'ripple'
07:35 kakobrekla and 'trust'
07:35 kakobrekla how to put these together, i dunno.
07:40 kakobrekla no wait this is some insurance thing?
07:44 kleeck "Peercover is the first distributed peer coverage service by the people for the people. The team at Peercover believes in economic self sustainability, pragmatism, simplicity, and above all security. Globally positioned, Peercover works to protect people of all creeds and credos. Get covered with people you trust, get covered with Peercover."
07:44 mircea_popescu ahahaha
07:45 mircea_popescu best in class.
07:45 mircea_popescu so usagi lives, "decentralised".
07:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082819 = 3.3128 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+]
07:58 kakobrekla can someone send a pm on retardtalk for me
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00781137 = 4.265 BTC [-] {3}
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.889999 = 3.56 BTC [+]
08:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00189001 = 0.1909 BTC [-]
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
08:15 mircea_popescu write a script, make 500k accounts, age them and take over.
08:16 mircea_popescu bitcointalk being replaced with markov chain generated noise might be an improvement.
08:16 kakobrekla 10 years ago id do that.
08:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00799999 = 0.464 BTC [+]
08:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0079 = 0.3318 BTC [-]
08:21 skinnkavaj So LTC up again
08:21 skinnkavaj Nice hedge against a falling BTC price
08:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00789999 = 0.4582 BTC [-]
08:22 mircea_popescu what's ltc ?
08:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1150 @ 0.00789855 = 9.0833 BTC [-] {6}
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00818181 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}
08:37 kakobrekla large tits collider
08:39 pankkake now that's something I want to own
08:40 b0n1 someone interested here for buying larger amounts in gift cards for bitcoins cheaper than their actual value?
~ 43 minutes ~
09:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00082935 = 0.1659 BTC [+]
09:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.898 BTC [+]
09:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.898 = 8.082 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.89999999 = 5.4 BTC [+]
09:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89999999 BTC [+]
09:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00221998 = 0.4262 BTC [+]
09:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00825 = 0.1238 BTC [-]
09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00829954 = 0.9129 BTC [+] {2}
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1327 @ 0.00775244 = 10.2875 BTC [-] {9}
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.75931249 = 18.2235 BTC [-] {8}
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00221997 = 0.2509 BTC [-]
09:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0011303 = 0.5652 BTC [-]
09:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 592 @ 0.00203333 = 1.2037 BTC [-] {2}
09:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00202 = 0.9676 BTC [-] {3}
09:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00201999 = 0.3434 BTC [-]
09:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.79187 = 2.3756 BTC [+] {3}
09:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00221216 = 0.907 BTC [+] {3}
10:01 kakobrekla http://bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities
10:01 ozbot Bitcoin Money
10:01 kakobrekla Yesterday the acting president of CVM, the securities regulator for Brazil, signed a decision ordering the administrator of “Grupo de Investimento Bitcoin” to suspend what the regulator describes as an investment fund.
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00221997 = 0.222 BTC [+]
10:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00221998 = 2.22 BTC [+] {3}
10:06 kakobrekla CVM recognizing btc as currency cause borred.
10:07 nubbins` hi
10:08 kakobrekla hm that was ike in 2012
10:08 kakobrekla where dafuck do you live kako
10:11 mircea_popescu lol
10:11 mircea_popescu i wasn't going to say anything.
10:14 nubbins` <kakobrekla> doesnt work in O.
10:14 nubbins` opera?!
10:14 nubbins` you're literally the second person i've ever met who uses it
10:14 nubbins` and i spent 5 years working as a web dev
10:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00789997 = 0.9243 BTC [+] {3}
10:15 kakobrekla nubbins` theres like 5 people on this chan using it
10:17 nubbins` :0
10:17 nubbins` imagine
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00221997 = 0.1465 BTC [-]
10:18 nubbins` anyway, uh. BITCOIN DOWN! should i put all my money in a blender and turn it on?
10:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00214817 = 0.8421 BTC [-] {2}
10:20 pankkake I put it all in Chinacoin
10:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0021915 = 0.4602 BTC [+] {2}
10:21 nubbins` you mean you didn't follow the advice from that guy who's always bleating about ltc?
10:22 pankkake some crazy movements though, if somehow you can predict them
10:22 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
10:22 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.69053, Best ask: 181.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00947, Last trade: 181.69053, 24 hour volume: 33649.20066128, 24 hour low: 181.14902, 24 hour high: 217.90003, 24 hour vwap: 197.78800
10:22 mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah. make it a 3d model.
10:23 pankkake if you use opera you hate freedom btw
10:23 nubbins` ^ ?
10:23 pankkake closed source
10:23 nubbins` ah
10:23 nubbins` lame
10:24 nubbins` you guys ever try the W3C's browser, Amaya?
10:24 kakobrekla did you go through the source of your browser ?
10:24 pankkake I tried it a few years ago, can't say it was practical to use
10:24 kakobrekla well then
10:24 kakobrekla what good does it do you
10:25 nubbins` kakobrekla: just because i don't vote doesn't mean i don't want the right! ;)
10:25 kakobrekla its all an illusion
10:26 pankkake I'd give up that right for 1 LTC. anyway I didn't read the whole linux kernel source either
10:26 pankkake nor bitcoin's
10:26 kakobrekla so you still trust X to do the job for you
10:27 pankkake I trust many people in the present and future
10:27 kakobrekla yes elephants have 4 legs usually
10:28 pankkake by that I mean many people are currently doing it and will do it. I trust the "enough eyeballs"
10:29 nubbins` potential logical fallacy
10:29 kakobrekla many people also code opera
10:30 pankkake not that many, and they are part of the same team
10:30 pankkake perhaps they're all reptilians
10:32 nubbins` anyway, pankkake was making an argument for free software, not against the morals of the opera dev team
10:33 pankkake true, I even forgot. kakobrekla you sneaky snail
10:33 kakobrekla yes sure, but that doesnt change much, just switching who you trust to do your check for you
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00222 = 0.182 BTC [+]
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2344 @ 0.00082605 = 1.9363 BTC [-]
10:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.00082684 = 0.9558 BTC [+]
10:34 kakobrekla since luke is doing some patches im more worried for bitcoind than opera.
10:35 nubbins` lel
10:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00223994 = 0.4323 BTC [+]
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2984 @ 0.00013 = 0.3879 BTC [+]
10:38 nubbins` brb, going to pick up a vacuum table!
10:38 VanCleef i get the feeling Father Peter use to touch him back in his alterboy days
10:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1242 @ 0.00224451 = 2.7877 BTC [+] {4}
10:41 KRS- That table must suck.
10:42 mircea_popescu the problem with free software is that unless there's an omnipotent dictator a la torvalds,
10:42 mircea_popescu the project goes to shirt
10:44 jurov dunno.. firefox seems to go fine
10:46 asciilifeform jurov: a very peculiar definition of 'going fine.'
10:46 jurov can you elaborate?
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.0020955 = 0.6035 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 asciilifeform jurov: firefox is a turd.
10:53 jurov i see a breakage about equally often after kernel upgrade and after ff upgrade...don't see any huge difference
10:56 nubbins` KRS-: i see what you did there ;p
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.80000001 = 1.6 BTC [+]
11:03 nubbins` doing a zine workshop tonight with 18 youths, should be nice and tangly
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88958799 BTC [+]
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88958799 = 1.7792 BTC [+] {2}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 97 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1096 BTC [-]
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00789999 = 0.5451 BTC [+] {2}
11:14 nubbins` mircea_popescu: in fact, french fries were invented in belgium
11:15 nubbins` (I can recall a French embassy stating this fact when asked for their opinion on "freedom fries")
11:16 mircea_popescu the point is contentious.
11:16 mircea_popescu belgium is france anyway :D
11:18 nubbins` next you'll be saying canada is america!
11:18 mircea_popescu lol
11:18 nubbins` wait, that's not funny
11:18 nubbins` ;)
11:18 mike_c what's zine? http://zine.pocoo.org/ ?
11:19 nubbins` mike_c: https://www.google.ca/search?q=zine&tbm=isch
11:19 mike_c ah
11:19 mike_c much cooler
11:19 nubbins` nod
11:22 nubbins` the great thing about self-publishing is that you can be as obscene as you want, and nobody cares
11:23 mircea_popescu sure htey do.
11:25 nubbins` actually, maybe "nobody will stop you" is closer to the truth
11:26 nubbins` although, the newspaper did a story on us a while back, and i sent them over some images to accompany the article. they published a full-page image of a creature with a dick and balls for a nose.
11:26 pankkake French people agree that fries are a Belgium thing
11:26 nubbins` so, y'know, life's full of surprises
11:27 pankkake though true Belgian fries are quite something compared to common fries
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9704 @ 0.0001492 = 1.4478 BTC [+] {3}
11:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3534 @ 0.00015 = 0.5301 BTC [+]
11:28 nubbins` http://imgur.com/4wvyLAz
11:28 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
11:28 nubbins` can't be bothered to rotate it
11:36 nubbins` ;;ticker
11:36 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.00000, Best ask: 184.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 36305.25866717, 24 hour low: 176.60399, 24 hour high: 215.99985, 24 hour vwap: 194.28240
11:37 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
11:37 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 182.50001, vol: 36316.43058917 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 175.04, vol: 33227.73049279 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 164.01, vol: 31857.02474 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 177.49, vol: 10766.02396314 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 170.74, vol: 1075.318944 | Volume-weighted last average: 174.521562617
11:38 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2013#357537
11:38 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.800149 = 4.8009 BTC [-] {3}
11:41 mike_c mpex options expired 16 hours ago, yes? do the 'T' and 'N' options roll over after the mpoe monthly statement is issued?
11:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.8 = 8.8 BTC [-] {2}
11:44 KRS- no
11:45 mike_c ok.. they roll over in random()*36 hours?
11:57 nubbins` http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/24/after-seven-years-in-jail-canadas-man-with-no-name-may-be-ready-to-reveal-true-identity-and-regain-freedom/
11:57 ozbot After seven years in jail, Canada’s ‘Man With No Name’ may be ready to reveal true identity
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12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.0745 = 0.447 BTC [-]
12:17 deadweasel mike_c: N's turn into T's, T's are expired.
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0075091 = 0.3755 BTC [-] {2}
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.007509 = 0.3755 BTC [-]
12:27 mircea_popescu mike_c not in random, at midnight gmt
12:27 mircea_popescu (bout 7 hours or so)
12:28 mike_c oh, i thought expiration was midnight Thursday before the last friday. not sure where i read that. thanks.
12:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082471 = 3.2988 BTC [-]
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00082471 = 0.6185 BTC [-]
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13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00235983 = 0.472 BTC [+] {3}
13:34 dexX7 http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/25/fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road/
13:34 ozbot FBI Says It's Seized $28.5 Million In Bitcoins From Ross Ulbricht, Alleged Owner Of Silk Road - Forb
13:36 mircea_popescu 100k ?
13:36 mircea_popescu better than mining
13:37 dexX7 haha yea
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3393 BTC [+]
13:37 dexX7 that's 180k confiscated coins now, if i'm not mistaken
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1105 BTC [+]
13:39 mircea_popescu An FBI official tells me that the bureau has located and seized a collection of 144,000 bitcoins, the largest seizure of that cryptocurrency ever, worth close to $28.5 million at current exchange rates. It believes that the stash belonged to Ross Ulbricht
13:39 mircea_popescu ahem. so basically all future bitcoin incvome of the us will be reported as allegedly confiscated from this guy ?
13:39 mircea_popescu nice plan.
13:40 dexX7 it probably more like "we found the privkey on his machine, so it's his drug money"
13:41 VanCleef invest in lube
13:41 VanCleef we're all going to need it for jail
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3472 BTC [+]
13:42 dexX7 the pattern is strange.. "take a wallet with > 3k coins, send 324 to 'dpr seized wallet', and repeat this step with the change"
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.785 = 3.14 BTC [-] {2}
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1697 @ 0.00209541 = 3.5559 BTC [-] {7}
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00209024 = 1.0974 BTC [-] {2}
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.75002499 = 3.0001 BTC [-] {4}
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.79768332 = 4.7861 BTC [+] {4}
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 21000 @ 0.00014022 = 2.9446 BTC [-] {7}
14:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00788995 = 0.5839 BTC [+]
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.72797965 = 42.9508 BTC [-] {9}
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00750706 = 0.3453 BTC [-] {3}
14:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00236519 = 4.7304 BTC [+] {6}
14:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5944 @ 0.0001401 = 0.8328 BTC [-]
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0078 = 0.351 BTC [+]
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14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6250 @ 0.00238832 = 14.927 BTC [+] {5}
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15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 82 @ 0.1418962 = 11.6355 BTC [+] {8}
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.14462222 = 2.6032 BTC [+] {2}
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 700 @ 0.14868269 = 104.0779 BTC [+] {4}
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 23 @ 0.15017391 = 3.454 BTC [+] {3}
15:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.2237 = 0.4474 BTC [+] {2}
15:30 lewicki woah
15:30 lewicki lots of buying on gox
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7315 BTC [+]
15:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00726781 = 3.6339 BTC [-] {6}
15:48 kleeck ;;seen yeahyeah
15:48 gribble yeahyeah was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <yeahyeah> yes
15:48 kleeck RIP
15:51 Rulother RIP
15:57 benkay is anyone charting assets listed on MPEx?
15:58 benkay stretching back further than a month...
15:58 kleeck Cashing out of Am dexX7 ?
15:58 dexX7 benkay: www.coinflow.co
16:00 dexX7 kleeck: yes. now that the shareprice will rise back to a few btc, i think now is a good time ;)
16:01 kleeck :)
16:01 kleeck Of course, of course...
16:01 dexX7 *may :x
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00725 = 0.986 BTC [-] {3}
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00722001 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3}
16:06 mircea_popescu benkay http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
16:07 benkay mircea_popescu: that last one only has a month of history.
16:07 mircea_popescu i thought it also had a year option
16:08 benkay i see none such
16:08 mircea_popescu hm
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00082471 = 1.2791 BTC [-]
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 366 @ 0.00114799 = 0.4202 BTC [+]
16:09 benkay coinflow has all data - thanks dexX7
16:09 dexX7 np
16:10 benkay you may want to take down the link to btctc dexX7
16:11 dexX7 you mean in the thread? yeah.. i think i should replace the "this will be updated soon" announcement with the actual update rather sooner than later
16:13 benkay talking about the link in the "research" dropdown
16:14 dexX7 ????
16:14 dexX7 ah
16:14 dexX7 nono
16:14 dexX7 i'm not the admin of coinflow
16:14 benkay my mistake
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 420 @ 0.00113033 = 0.4747 BTC [-] {5}
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0075 = 0.2925 BTC [+]
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.007789 = 0.1402 BTC [-]
16:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7795 BTC [+]
16:41 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3411869#msg3411869
16:41 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
16:41 ThickAsThieves Official Neo Updates, Oct. 25, 2013
16:42 dexX7 YES :D:
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00244999 = 0.4728 BTC [+]
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00769979 = 0.385 BTC [-]
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00245 = 0.9849 BTC [+] {3}
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00246015 = 0.3789 BTC [+] {2}
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 275 @ 0.0025 = 0.6875 BTC [+]
17:08 mircea_popescu http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/24/exclusive_germany_brazil_turn_to_un_to_restrain_american_spies
17:08 ozbot Exclusive: Germany, Brazil Turn to U.N. to Restrain American Spies | The Cable
17:08 mircea_popescu the un general assembly is going to be a riot.
17:08 mircea_popescu obama takes off shoe, slams it against table ?
17:09 jurov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBZaht3nNo
17:09 ozbot DentiDrill - de eerste tandartsboor voor thuisgebruik - YouTube
17:09 jurov mircea_popescu: citizen dentistry is here!
17:09 asciilifeform nah, he'll just gather a group of flunkies in his office and shout 'nein nein nein nein nein!'
17:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform NEVER AGAIN YOU HEAR!!! WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT~!!!!1
17:10 nubbins` !!!
17:10 mircea_popescu jurov yeah, those two really look like they can't afford the dentist visit
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00769979 = 0.385 BTC [-] {2}
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.07459 = 0.2984 BTC [+]
17:10 jurov that's homeschooling, don't need no filthy teachers or doctors
17:11 mircea_popescu seems a broken analogy.
17:11 mircea_popescu schooling would appear to be more akin cooking than dentistry.
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 210 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2411 BTC [+]
17:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform here you go : "The worst case scenario I think would be having our European allies saying they will no longer share signals intelligence because of a concern that our SigInt is being derived from mechanisms that violate their privacy rules," said Ray Kimball, an army strategist with policy experience on European issues.
17:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
17:17 jurov Oh my! Oracle powered exchange.
17:20 jurov and all dat swag...mircea, nobody will take you seriously now. you absolutely must announce microsoft sql server or google partnership.
17:20 mircea_popescu i don't know anyone there i'd want to partner with tho.
17:21 mircea_popescu sucks to be me i guess.
17:21 jurov and don't forget MPEx-themed condoms
17:23 mircea_popescu i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity.
17:23 pankkake I want the pankkake-themed butt plug http://i.imgur.com/xOftDYp.png
17:23 mircea_popescu http://www.vdare.com/articles/diversity-boot-camp-closed-at-the-university-of-delaware-but-big-brother-is-still-going-str < not a bad read.
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [-]
17:31 dub can't read it because its layed out like the writer has sever ADHD
17:31 jurov it's an African-American woman of biracial West Indian and Russian-Jewish heritage
17:32 dub but at a glimpse, angry old man syndrome
17:32 mircea_popescu dub what's that ?
17:32 dub ADHD? its another name for asperges
17:33 mircea_popescu angry old man syndrome.
17:33 pankkake curmudgeon
17:34 mircea_popescu "Americans don't want to study hard things. That's for foreigners. Fluff courses like these ethnic-studies timewasters—that's what people want. Unless a university is 'anchored' by a big department teaching real subjects—a medical or engineering school—the drift is all that way."
17:34 dub it just looks like a 'in my day' rant
17:34 mircea_popescu no, seriously, it's perhaps the best discussion of us academia i've read. ever.
17:36 mircea_popescu it does strangely veer into how aids is all about faggots and evil black people in africa however.
17:36 mircea_popescu weird how that works out.
17:36 dexX7 https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH all those 324 btc tx ... http://www.pachd.com/free-images/technology-images/phone-dial-pad-01.jpg :D
17:36 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
17:38 mircea_popescu dexX7 lmao someone in the fbi seriously sat over a console coding up a way to send bitcoins in 324 batches ?
17:38 mircea_popescu cute.
17:38 dexX7 yes
17:38 dub I suspect if they'd been teachign empathy and inclusivety in 1852 the world would be a lot nicer place
17:39 dub inb4 blawgrage
17:39 mircea_popescu dub yeah, i'd be speaking chinese and you lot wouldn't be on the internet.
17:39 dexX7 if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI
17:39 dub dexX7: fucken chemtrails
17:40 dexX7 chemtrails are bad, yes :p
17:40 mircea_popescu dexX7 i'm aware. i just thought it's marginally ridiculous to be that desperate to impress bitcoin forum/reddit.
17:40 dexX7 haha yea
17:41 mircea_popescu but hey, whatever. sucks being a govt agency, if you do shit like this you're too eager, if you don't you're dumb, there's no way out.
17:42 dexX7 there is still the theory that the whole bust was manufactured
17:42 mircea_popescu you mean presley's or hoffa's ?
17:43 dexX7 i'm looking for the post, sec
17:43 mircea_popescu you can't be too young to have missed those references ?!
17:43 dexX7 :D
17:43 dexX7 i don't know this reference
17:44 mircea_popescu well the theory is that elvis isn't really dead, just hiding, and then hoffa (teamsters union) was dissapeared mysteriously
17:44 mircea_popescu so obliquely, "yeah, you'll never get rid of the theory X thing is manufactured"
17:45 dexX7 ah
17:46 kakobrekla you should say tupac or something, for the kids
17:46 mircea_popescu dr dre's dead
17:46 mircea_popescu he's locked in ma basement
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00113 = 0.1164 BTC [-] {2}
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3500 @ 0.0025 = 8.75 BTC [+]
17:50 mod6 mircea_popescu: haha
17:52 dexX7 well anyway. i don't find it, but it was on reddit. probably deleted by the mods, because it was true. :p
17:52 dexX7 jk
17:53 dexX7 http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0025 = 1.25 BTC [+]
17:56 mircea_popescu lol it got deleted ?
17:56 mircea_popescu i remember reading it yest or w/e. coupla pages of the usual fare.
17:57 kakobrekla https://www.coinx.com/
17:57 ozbot Home Page - CoinX Trading Platform
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.0025 = 10 BTC [+]
17:58 dexX7 looks like another hobby project
17:59 kakobrekla http://finance.yahoo.com/news/coinx-bitcoin-exchange-actually-takes-142123182.html
17:59 ozbot CoinX Is A New Bitcoin Exchange That Actually Takes Financial Compliance Seriously - Yahoo Finance
17:59 mircea_popescu allthese pictures of handshakes...
17:59 dexX7 uh lol
17:59 kakobrekla Operating out of Atlanta, Ga., CoinX is all about turning conventional money into the anonymous digital currency called Bitcoin, and Bitcoin into conventional money. It's also the first to actually take financial compliance seriously.
18:00 kakobrekla CoinX and the NYSE are so closely linked that the NYSE logo appears on some CoinX marketing.
18:00 kakobrekla lol
18:01 mircea_popescu uh what ?
18:02 mircea_popescu Megan is the founder and CEO of a successful Internet security and networking company that provides service to a number of Fortune 1000 companies.
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4512 @ 0.00211056 = 9.5228 BTC [-] {21}
18:02 kakobrekla i think theres a reason why over 50% of fx trades is in europe
18:02 mircea_popescu who apparently had some startup in atlanta called seegee
18:02 dexX7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBFaaYGmqQ
18:02 ozbot Testimonial - Megan Burton of CoinX - YouTube
18:03 dexX7 http://www.seegee.com/about-us/management-team.html
18:03 ozbot IT Management Team - SeeGee Technologies
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 488 @ 0.002 = 0.976 BTC [-]
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78449892 BTC [+]
18:03 mircea_popescu so okay, burned through the funding, moved over to bitcoin.
18:04 mircea_popescu i wonder how many of the retarded vcs (defined as any vc who's not been talking to me, no matter what their mommy told them about how smart they are) realise that the new mo of the start-up scamscene is, get a "seed round", turn it to bitcoin, walk away with the wallet a year later.
18:04 kakobrekla >>"no doesnt mean no, means not right now"
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00249995 = 0.25 BTC [+]
18:05 kakobrekla >CoinX is licensed in more than half of US states.
18:05 kakobrekla that beats kraken?
18:06 mircea_popescu until they show proof to these claims, btcjam is licensed on the pacific ocean floor.
18:07 mircea_popescu and tux has a license from a kappa he once met on a river bank.
18:08 jurov we have somalian license
18:09 dexX7 kakobrekla: was it you who "tested" btc.cx? what was your conclusion?
18:09 dexX7 www.btc.sx
18:09 kakobrekla very poorly coded
18:10 pankkake .sx and not related to sex :/
18:10 jurov .sux
18:10 kakobrekla ^^
18:10 dexX7 xD
18:10 kakobrekla but hey im a sladerous soul
18:10 kakobrekla so dont listen to me.
18:11 jurov my slovenly slanderous somalian
18:11 jurov *slovenly slanderous somalian soul
18:11 pankkake somali*
18:11 jurov oh sry
18:12 kakobrekla twice as worse as the SS
18:15 mircea_popescu <jurov> my slovenly slanderous somalian <<< ahaha best in class.
18:18 ThickAsThieves <jurov> Oh my! Oracle powered exchange. <<< if you're referring to Neo, there is no Oracle-powered exchange or such. Oracle is for Neo and Bee's previously announced business services. To my knowledge, they are merely exploring the idea of doing the stock exchange down the road, and have no software plans in that regard.
18:19 kakobrekla yeah jurov whats up with the slander
18:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know, it's a little strange you're doing their announcements for them. you're starting like a pr practice or what is it ?
18:19 jurov what slander? towards oracle? cuz i was a DBA.
18:19 mircea_popescu you actually signing off on them, if they fail to deliver whatever people get to pursue you ?
18:19 ThickAsThieves more like transfer agent / asset manager
18:20 mircea_popescu it'd prolly be a good idea to clearly specify the relationship, preferably by a published contract. otherwise you'll have trouble managing expectations down the road.
18:20 ThickAsThieves all claims are those of Neo's, not TATI
18:20 jurov in any case i doubt they'll choose something other for exchange, having the expertise in-house
18:20 ThickAsThieves this relationship is explained in the prospectus
18:21 ThickAsThieves whether sufficient, i cant say
18:22 mircea_popescu well, the fact remains most people that managed to ruin their reputation to date did so by agreeing to front for some third party new to btc that then went tits up.
18:24 jurov ThickAsThieves: no hard feelings... aside for my personal oracle dba misadventure, i found it funny to publish photos of swag like there
18:24 ThickAsThieves I understand. We went through several measures to manage that concern. Surely we could have done more, and we can never prevent outright failure of the business, but we do have a contract with Neo directly that defines our role as well.
18:25 jurov wow, you got managerspeak bug :)
18:25 ThickAsThieves i know nothing of Oracle vs this or that. Honestly my personal impression of Oracle is negative
18:25 mircea_popescu just make sure people know about the definitions so you have what to fall back on in case.
18:25 mircea_popescu financial management is contingency management after all.
18:26 dexX7 how many people are behind ThickAsThieves?
18:26 ThickAsThieves Understood, contigency planning seems to be most of my time these days...
18:26 ThickAsThieves haha, well ThickAsThieves is just a handle for me personally
18:26 mircea_popescu jurov oracle is pretty good if you run a large non it corp, because you can just call them to fix your shit. it's non trivial to keep on staff it people able to handle large-ish server farms.
18:26 ThickAsThieves TATI the entity is 2 partners and a few software guys
18:27 dexX7 ah okay :)
18:27 mircea_popescu leaving aside the horrible obamacare website fail which probably everyone heard of, check out say this :
18:27 mircea_popescu http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php
18:27 mircea_popescu (romney's campaign fail)
18:28 jurov so neo/bee won't have in house dba? oracle support, especially urgent one, is expensive
18:29 ThickAsThieves i know their oracle setup wasnt cheap
18:29 jurov i' not sure cyprus market can easily support sich
18:29 jurov *such
18:29 mircea_popescu maybe they already have it for something else and are just freeriding this on that.
18:29 mircea_popescu inhouse dba is expensive too, for that matter.
18:29 jurov no i understood it as they creating new team from scratch
18:30 mircea_popescu ya well.
18:30 jurov "Leon has a long-standing relationship with Danny Brewster, trust has been established over many years." or from scrotch
18:30 ThickAsThieves they have a software consulting co that is handling it all i think, as a long term partner
18:30 ThickAsThieves i met two of the guys
18:30 ThickAsThieves they are hiring for the project, yes
18:32 jurov whatever, i just want to say whole setup looks too excessive.
18:33 dexX7 is there already an eta for the exchange or is it more an idea?
18:33 ThickAsThieves excessive to run a payment network and bank chains?
18:33 ThickAsThieves i have no idea
18:33 ThickAsThieves the exchange has no timeline
18:33 jurov i mean the office space, furniture, oracle licenses, etc.
18:34 ThickAsThieves i guess time will tell, i have no way to argue for or against the frigality
18:34 ThickAsThieves frugality
18:35 ThickAsThieves probably isnt one answer anyway
18:36 jurov imho these are suitable for established bank, not as a first thing after they got investment
18:36 mircea_popescu jurov lol they got one crampy conference room and some office space, give teh people a break.
18:37 ThickAsThieves is your opinion from experience?
18:37 mircea_popescu i've seen MUCH worse in ny and sf.
18:37 pankkake my experience is that oracle sucks balls :p
18:37 pankkake otherwise the thing looks ok. actually, I don't really undertand why they have to communicate about oracle
18:37 dexX7 mircea_popescu: you must have missed that http://i.imgur.com/U1lr806.png ;)
18:37 ThickAsThieves the pictures do make the office space look smaller than it is
18:37 jurov My experience is that in slovakia (similarly sized marked like cyprus) such spaces are few and far between.
18:38 ThickAsThieves when i was there i was like oh, i thought it this was all much smaller
18:38 mircea_popescu dexX7 that looks like a model :p
18:38 ThickAsThieves the buidling exists
18:38 ThickAsThieves and looks much like the rendering
18:38 ThickAsThieves the signage isnt there yet
18:38 ThickAsThieves they have the whole floor just above the sign
18:38 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah pictures usually do. i know the first time i went on a set and saw the actual tits i was hmm... didn't think they're actually that big.
18:38 ThickAsThieves and then one rretail unit below it
18:39 ThickAsThieves haha
18:39 dexX7 the whole complex is used by them or did they just rent a floor?
18:39 dexX7 ah okaxy
18:39 ThickAsThieves the top floor is their design agency
18:39 mircea_popescu dexX7 the building is made from the caps of pens they use in filing their taxes
18:39 ThickAsThieves the software agency is considering an office bnearby as well
18:39 mircea_popescu it rests atop an artificial island created out of employee icecream tubs.
18:40 ThickAsThieves mktg agency, i should say, not design
18:40 ThickAsThieves of course they do design as well
18:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 500 @ 0.00048815 = 0.2441 BTC [-] {11}
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19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00249 = 0.3162 BTC [-]
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00249 = 0.9188 BTC [-]
19:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00082765 = 3.0209 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 nubbins` <mircea_popescu> i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity.
19:48 nubbins` it's so rare that i see the word "fecund" used in conversation. great word
19:48 mircea_popescu :p
19:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-]
19:53 nubbins` <dexX7> if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI
19:53 nubbins` lel, a thousand times lel
19:54 nubbins` (just catching up here)
19:54 dexX7 haha yeah
19:54 nubbins` zine workshop was a bit of a shit show
19:54 mircea_popescu crazy bitches ?
19:56 nubbins` the workshop itself was great, everybody loved printing. but then i got stuck in the room for a "discussion" between this youth group and their project supervisors
19:56 nubbins` where basically everyone argued for an hour
19:56 nubbins` about their responsibilities
19:57 mircea_popescu kids there don't get beaten enough.
19:57 nubbins` well, that was one of the points that came up
19:57 nubbins` it's 9 youths from canada and 9 from ghana
19:57 mircea_popescu o wow. interesting idea
19:58 nubbins` yeah. 3 months here, 3 months there
19:58 nubbins` anyway, the issue arose because the ghanaians don't feel comfortable questioning "authority" figures, and the supervisors were explaining that here in canada if you don't understand why you're doing something, you ask, because you're trying to be a part of our culture
19:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-]
19:59 nubbins` then the point was raised that the canadians will also probably end up feeling uncomfortable in ghana because children are caned there
19:59 nubbins` and the canadians were all "o"
19:59 mircea_popescu ahahaha precious
20:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [-] {2}
20:00 mircea_popescu somehow we must get this perfect middle where if you don't understand you ask but if you think you know better you stfu or get caned.
20:00 mircea_popescu i'd totally move to that ghanada.
20:01 mircea_popescu heck, even pay taxes.
20:01 nubbins` !
20:01 nubbins` funny, "ghanada" is exactly what's written on the covers of the zines
20:01 nubbins` you sure you're not a youth volunteer?
20:02 mircea_popescu i'm just the nsa, that's all.
20:03 monkey` that trashbag mircea popescu selling a new pump and dump?
20:03 kakobrekla dis comming from labcoin investor?
20:03 monkey` http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA
20:04 monkey` fuck is this new garbage? what happend to his little online RPG
20:04 mircea_popescu Jun 22 23:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>[16:47] * bitcoin935 (3246306d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.70.48.109) Quit (Quit: <ThickAsThieves> sometimes i watch "the three stooges" to take notes.)
20:04 mircea_popescu so i guess this is the that guy, what's his name
20:04 monkey` shutup gypsy
20:05 mircea_popescu what were you originally ? the guy with the cars/living standards/whatnot
20:05 monkey` where is your online game?
20:05 mod6 money` = EB
20:05 mod6 *monkey`
20:05 nubbins` oh! eskimo bob?
20:05 mircea_popescu no ?!
20:05 mod6 yah, long time no troll
20:06 asciilifeform reptilia? is back?
20:06 monkey` mircea_popescu: where is your online RPG?
20:06 mircea_popescu ahaha, wait, the "fuck asics, i'll make a heat oven PMG" ?
20:06 nubbins` ^
20:06 mircea_popescu monkey` i can't tell you cause you'll probably be mean to it.
20:06 monkey` mircea right
20:06 monkey` mircea is an adult? lol.
20:07 monkey` fake name too
20:07 nubbins` everybody's an adult but you ;)
20:07 mircea_popescu but srsly, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/
20:07 nubbins` ^
20:08 dexX7 you sure are minimal.. http://minigame.bz/
20:08 mircea_popescu dexX7 you know the all one california crazy soap ?
20:09 dexX7 which one? californication?
20:09 mircea_popescu nono
20:09 dexX7 i have no idea what you are talking about
20:09 dexX7 :/
20:09 mircea_popescu http://www.drbronner.com/
20:09 ozbot Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps All-One
20:09 dexX7 haha wtf
20:09 mircea_popescu you should see the labels on those things
20:10 mircea_popescu it's basically timecube on a fmcg label
20:10 nubbins` i watched a documentary on that soap a while ago
20:10 nubbins` weird people
20:10 mircea_popescu it
20:10 mircea_popescu 's even got sideways print to fill all available surfaces with rant
20:12 dexX7 interesting approach
20:13 mircea_popescu dexX7's TIL counter is getting tickled today lol
20:13 nubbins` hmm, EB has fallen oddly silent
20:13 mircea_popescu i think it's the other guy honestly
20:13 mircea_popescu what the fuck was his original handle
20:14 nubbins` ah
20:14 mircea_popescu dub what's the guy's handle ?
20:14 benkay tib?
20:14 mircea_popescu a a yes
20:14 mircea_popescu tiberiusd
20:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-]
20:14 benkay tib was a class act
20:15 benkay he even got you worked up a few times
20:15 mircea_popescu o ya ?
20:17 benkay point is this human is no tiberiusxiv
20:17 nubbins` (HEH)
20:17 mircea_popescu mebbeh so
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20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00114798 = 0.1182 BTC [+] {2}
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20:33 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ dex there's a pic of the label there.
20:33 ozbot We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+]
20:35 benkay amazing soap
20:35 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:35 Kleeck_ assbot is such a dick
20:35 mircea_popescu strangely enough, it IS the best soap in the us
20:38 dexX7 lol
20:38 dexX7 indeed an amazing soap
20:38 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
20:41 nubbins` http://all-one-typography.com/Dr_Bronners-label-Peppermint-32oz.jpg
20:42 nubbins` i'm outta here, it's friday night and i'm still sober
20:43 KRS1 do something about that player im about to
20:43 mircea_popescu omfg they have it online. wow.
20:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
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21:03 benkay y'all should see their new tirades about GMOs
21:04 Kleeck_ GMOs are the devil.
21:05 benkay dat binary thinking
21:05 Kleeck_ dat assumption.
21:05 Kleeck_ :)
21:05 Kleeck_ "Agree with me or you're binary!"
21:05 Kleeck_ ROFL.
21:05 Kleeck_ The illusion of intelligence.
21:06 benkay what ams devil?
21:06 benkay what ams gmo?
21:07 benkay i just want a little more subtlety in the conversation
21:07 KRS1 nothing wrong with gmo's..people just being paranoid.
21:07 benkay f.ex: an organism identified to carry a certain set of genes bred with another organism some breeders would like to see that gene in
21:07 benkay ams gmo?
21:07 KRS1 benkay: engineers reprogram for instance the dna of a tomato so they grow really big and feed more people..a really simple example
21:08 mircea_popescu benkay do you understand the process behind gmo ?
21:08 benkay (mircea_popescu: yes)
21:08 mircea_popescu well so then that's the objection. has nothing to do with reproduction, it's just mashing things together
21:09 benkay i'm quibbling about what it means for a thing to be a "genetically modified organism"
21:09 benkay especially given what's coming out about the common nature of organic viral-driven lateral gene transfer
21:09 mircea_popescu it means to have undergone this process where random bits of dna were thrown at a large number of cells just like it, in the hopes that something maybe catches.
21:09 dexX7 usually it's more like "we make the tomato resistant vs pesticide x" afaik
21:10 mircea_popescu benkay i will trust a natural process, such as viral transfer, on the grounds that in millenia of practice it failed to make the world dangerous for me.
21:10 mircea_popescu i will not trust an industrial process, such as gmo, on the grounds that in centuries of practice it NEVER failed to make the world dangerous for me.
21:10 dexX7 ^ +1
21:10 mircea_popescu quite a gap there
21:11 benkay on the same note, everything that increases agricultural output is a bad thing 'cause it leads rather quickly to more humans
21:12 asciilifeform there's also the more prosaic fact that 99% of gmo work is for: pesticide resistance.
21:12 mircea_popescu that's also a good point yeah.
21:12 asciilifeform pesticide/herbicide
21:12 mircea_popescu benkay i doubt there's much relation. famine is well resilient to dropping prices of grain
21:13 mircea_popescu people will make ethanol out of corn or buy it to rot in govt "reserves" before feeding any starving idiots
21:13 asciilifeform btw, when will the drug aficionados get around to the fabled 'THC tomato.' that'd be something to write home about.
21:14 benkay why would you put those genes in a plant that fruits?
21:14 mircea_popescu what plant doesn't fruit ?!
21:14 asciilifeform camouflage.
21:14 benkay actually now i'm curious what an unpollinated tomato would do
21:15 benkay 'cause that's how one prevents a pot plant from going to seed
21:15 benkay anyways there's decades of breeding in the pot plants that i find it hard to imagine getting around with gmos
21:15 mircea_popescu you never know your luck
21:15 mircea_popescu gmo is basically a game of vegas slots
21:16 mircea_popescu except people have found a way to get investors to pay for it
21:16 asciilifeform very much so. a place i worked went broke partly because we couldn't get a necessary transfection going.
21:17 mircea_popescu it's basically a game of "twelve lines" or "six lines" or w/e
21:17 mircea_popescu those lines could each be 1 in 100
21:18 mircea_popescu or they could be 1 in 10^65
21:18 mircea_popescu you don't know...
21:18 mircea_popescu so you get five of the six... and that's all you're going to get.
21:18 asciilifeform it's also a game of 'e. coli simply can't be persuaded to piss out X.' or 'croaks trying.'
21:19 mircea_popescu that's probably the product of the future, by the way : the organic computer.
21:19 KRS1 yes
21:19 mircea_popescu in the sense of, this programmable device capable of controlled gmoization.
21:19 mircea_popescu sort of like a 3d printer + desktop combo, but made out of cunt tissue and capable of pissing apples.
21:19 mircea_popescu (not whole apples, of course. apple paste)
21:19 asciilifeform we have those already: chinese postdocs. they don't always cut it, though.
21:20 KRS1 heh thats quite a picture
21:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, they can't actually sprout shitake.
21:20 KRS1 i would like pr0ns of that
21:22 mircea_popescu anyway, asciilifeform, the saddest story to date is of this corp that MANAGED it. once.
21:22 mircea_popescu they figured it's easy to do, and so didn't pay enough attention to the samples
21:22 mircea_popescu which died.
21:22 mircea_popescu and then could never do it again.
21:22 asciilifeform managed what?
21:22 mircea_popescu the whole list of combos they needed
21:23 mircea_popescu apparently one of them being a very improbable occurence they lucked out on. once.
21:23 asciilifeform when you're in bio business, you have to be prepared that your working capital can literally croak.
21:23 asciilifeform one of the worst occasions is when a mouse farm dies
21:23 asciilifeform this can happen overnight.
21:24 asciilifeform (little buggers all catch something at once. esp. if they're immunocompromised for whatever reason.)
21:24 mircea_popescu yeah.
21:25 mircea_popescu afaik you can't even go into the mouse farms anymore
21:25 mircea_popescu wholly robotic shit
21:25 asciilifeform btw, phun phact: they're under 24/7 armed guard, in any respectable shop.
21:25 asciilifeform i've never once been inside - didn't have clearance.
21:26 mircea_popescu well 20 years ago it was a lot more amicable a thing
21:27 mircea_popescu ;;ident benkay
21:27 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified.
21:27 asciilifeform the newer ones have compartmentalized air supplies for individual lots - a bit like dirigible ballonettes.
21:27 benkay ;;ident benkay
21:27 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified.
21:27 benkay wa
21:28 benkay oh wot as well
21:28 benkay a full day of fighting stupid computers
21:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00082881 = 6.1332 BTC [+] {2}
21:33 benkay !mp http://dpaste.com/1429816/plain/
21:33 assbot Processing.
21:33 assbot Response: http://dpaste.com/1429817/plain/
21:33 benkay the robots hate me today
21:37 asciilifeform benkay: industrial robo?
21:38 benkay no, i got shot of actual physical fucking atoms a year ago
21:38 benkay nearly a year and a half!
21:38 benkay the cloud robots.
21:40 asciilifeform i still can't bring myself to call a widget that pushes only electrons a robot.
21:41 benkay the widgets for which i'm responsible ultimately move atoms around
21:42 benkay but only after shunting lots of electrons and making lots of api calls and getting the odd human involved
21:43 benkay far more fun to play with than the industrial type
21:43 asciilifeform there's an undeniable sportsmanship appeal to programming a computer that might kill you, however.
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00722 = 0.361 BTC [-] {2}
21:44 benkay mega personal happiness penalties from programming in proprietary ladder logic though
21:45 asciilifeform it beats xyz arms hooked up to winblows boxes.
21:45 benkay comprable
21:46 benkay the only upside to that gig was watching the shop operators grow more and more uncomfortable around me and my robots during my tenure
21:47 benkay i would have enjoyed it more had i embraced my sadistic side earlier in life.
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00720016 = 0.432 BTC [-] {2}
21:52 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-october-2013-statement/
21:52 ozbot MPOE, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:52 mircea_popescu meanwhile back at the ranch, "Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website"
21:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00700777 = 0.4625 BTC [-] {4}
22:06 mircea_popescu japan gets another 7.1
22:16 mircea_popescu http://rt.com/usa/nsa-site-ddos-attack-754/
22:19 dexX7 @AnonymousOwn3r << this guy is a joke
22:19 dexX7 it's a wonder that he is still on the nets
22:20 mircea_popescu why ? nobody really goes after the jokers.
22:23 dexX7 hmhm.. i'm not sure what exactly the issue was, but do you remember when almost all godaddy related/hosted websites went black a year ago or so?
22:23 mircea_popescu vaguely
22:23 dexX7 this was the time this guy popped up, claiming it was him, web news picked it up
22:23 dexX7 from that point on he claimed he was behind "everything" on the nets, but of course he wasn't
22:24 dexX7 people found his facebook account etc. where he was posting screenshots of his "operations"
22:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5239 @ 0.00082487 = 4.3215 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
22:25 mircea_popescu hm.
22:25 dexX7 http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/
22:25 ozbot GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch
22:26 mircea_popescu anyway, im sure the twitter in question is being run by some teen having fun, otherwise unrelated to anything
22:26 dexX7 haha yea
22:28 bloctoc go daddy down probably related to savetoby.com http://www.bobparsons.me/archive_article.php?entry_id=38
22:32 dexX7 A man claims to have found an injured, young rabbit under a porch one day, and then nursed it back to health. He then named the rabbit Toby. This individual swears that he will have Toby butchered and served for dinner on June 30, 2005, unless he is able to raise $50,000 in donations or merchandise sales.
22:33 KRS1 clever
22:33 KRS1 he'll probably get it too
22:35 bloctoc The response from GoDaddy Founder: "I now own a SaveToby.com mouse pad"
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