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00:05 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829264 << old one's busted as per comments. new one's sitting on desk, will endeavor to get posted tomorrow.
00:05 a111 Logged on 2018-06-24 19:02 PeterL: trinque: on http://trinque.org/2017/12/30/wip-cuntoo-installer/ the links seem to be broken, I tried to leave a comment but I think it got eaten?
00:06 trinque just got in from 3 generations of trinque partying all weekend.
00:07 trinque dunno what these other idiots in shitlandia, but as for us, can gather 60 in one place and have a riot, end of world or not.
00:07 trinque *about
00:08 * trinque will see y'all in the morn, there's a naked girl to be seen to
00:08 phf trinque is a man of responsibility, checks on log on the way to naked girl
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01:08 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-31#1820078 << tracked it down https://web.archive.org/web/19990221231608/http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs/
01:08 a111 Logged on 2018-05-31 21:40 phf: i remember seeing the archive.org version of the relevant page, but i think the correspond tar.gz was not in archive, and i gave up tryin to track it down
01:09 phf apparently the reason i don't remember getting the archive is because there was no archive. "release ... is planned" "i'll publish ... before i do that ..."
01:10 phf relatedly, an amusing post re clemacs, https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3115132473442167@naggum.no.html
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02:15 mircea_popescu nuts.
02:15 mircea_popescu this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
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02:24 mircea_popescu "If [unrelated insane nonsense], I'll publish my internal, MULE-free version, dubbed Emacs 19.2003. Before I do that, however, I need to know what you think of Emacs 20.3 -- mail me with your experiences."
02:24 mircea_popescu what the fuck.
02:34 mircea_popescu meanwhile on the other side, https://github.com/AnarchoTechNYC
02:34 mircea_popescu "Part of the tech antifa." in case you didn't know there is such a thing.
02:35 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running
02:35 a111 Logged on 2018-06-23 12:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829051 << lobbes didja determine what proggy (e.g. apache?) it was that actually fell down ?
02:36 lobbes I'm going to try to get some server-side caching going. Though mysql error logs dun complain about lack of resources or anything, so I'm not 100% sure it'll help. And it's not like the Rockchip was running out of memory either (had over 1.5 GB of available RAM during the downage)
02:41 mircea_popescu caching probably a bad idea in context.
02:41 lobbes how so?
02:42 mircea_popescu mysql already caches queries ; apache already caches queries ; your os already caches memory (and the disk already caches the disk) and THEN the processor already caches instruction pipelines
02:42 mircea_popescu you think more caching's the solution ?
02:43 mircea_popescu if you have slow mysql queries (always a possiblity, with cockamamie themes / handspun php etc), ask mysql about it, it'll know.
02:43 mircea_popescu if you have some php problem, apache will tell you.
02:44 mircea_popescu don't just throw caching layers at speed problems, this isn't the 90s anymore.
02:44 lobbes makes sense. see I'm glad I came here before actually adding caching layers
02:45 mircea_popescu every solution to a problem, in terms of medicine rather than shamanism, comes with a definition of the problem first and foremost.
02:45 mircea_popescu if you've no idea ~what~ is slow, what are you going to do ? take pills ?
02:47 lobbes this is very true. in the back of my head was this lingering 'maybe this'll magic all the problems away'. damn head cockroaches
02:47 mircea_popescu you know ? the worst outcome of that approach is if it [seemed to] work.
02:47 mircea_popescu who the fuck even cares if it ever gets fixed or not. the only point of interest, really, is ~what is it ?!?!~. teh thirst for knowledge.
02:50 lobbes this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
02:50 mircea_popescu well, answer something, at any rate. "i think this works but i have no idea why or what's going on" is what monkey said about radiobanana.
02:51 mircea_popescu "wait mp, you mean radioactive or radioreceptive ?" "nooooobody knooowsss..."
02:55 lobbes aha. yeah, I got some diagnostics to perform looks like.
02:56 lobbes but for now, bed. I'll report back with findings
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03:53 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/kumho/ << Trilema - Kumho
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05:34 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829352 <-- this makes perfect sense and I expect works not only for the read, but also for the print portion of the loop.
05:34 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 03:52 asciilifeform: spyked: prolly i oughta elaborate re the item in your 4th footnote. a compact lisptron has no particular reason to have any notions of parsing baked in; all it needs is 1) a basic i/o mechanism 2) a way to load an initial pre-built s-expression into the working memory and immediately evaluate it.
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08:04 ave1 spyked, nice implementation, so far the lispm code seems to fit in my head!
08:10 ave1 btw, why not a v genesis?
08:16 spyked hey ty, ave1!
08:20 spyked I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
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08:55 ave1 Well, rewriting would be helped by a genesis, discussion likewise (then the patches can be on btcbase and refered to in the log...)
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09:17 spyked ave1, that's actually a good point. I'll put it on the todo list.
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10:31 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one, that introduces some basic functionality of the larger item ( as seen in ffa ch1 ) , rather than a placeholder, '[this is genesis and blah and other things will also go here]' -- if this makes sense
10:31 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
10:37 mod6 mornin'
10:37 asciilifeform ohai mod6
10:40 mod6 how goes today?
10:41 asciilifeform mod6: up to my nose in saecular liquishit. how'bout you?
10:41 mod6 heheh, bout the same.
10:42 mod6 Gonna be a busy week. Got a lot to accomplish with pizarro & foundation.
10:43 mod6 I might not get to it this week, probably sometime in early july, but I'm going to roll in your aggression vpatch to the foundation patch set as well.
10:44 asciilifeform mod6: i see it as moar of a bugfix ( a la mircea_popescu's fix of the db locks constant ) rather than troo patch, fwiw
10:45 asciilifeform and i've yet to hear of anyffing like an argument for keeping shitoshi's idiocy of 'boot time is speshul', even as devil's advocate exercise
10:45 asciilifeform would be interesting to hear, if anybody can think of one.
10:46 asciilifeform for reference : http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks << subj
10:47 asciilifeform in my book, turning '6 month sync' into '3 week sync' is a win.
10:49 mod6 for sure. indeed, bug fix.
10:49 mod6 and i see no reason not to include it in main vtree.
10:51 BingoBoingo In the first half of today's game Uruguay has scored two goals and Russia has scored two yellow cards. I am starting to suspect winning strategies in futbol (selling your injuries, falling like it is a disaster every time) contribute to the local cultural failures
10:52 asciilifeform fwiw it's been in continuous test on zoolag since day1 ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757668 ) ; iirc several other folx also tested ( incl. 'side by side' nodez ) , see what they have ( ben_vulpes ? possibly mircea_popescu )
10:52 a111 Logged on 2017-12-23 20:42 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000281.html
10:53 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829350 << We don't have many chinese here other than recent arrival prospectors, but definitely going to start knocking on doors.
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10:53 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 03:01 hanbot: BingoBoingo> Aite, next time I go to the feria to look at kitchen utensils Imma have to bring a latina. "Evwerything on the table is a matched set you won't separate" my ass << fwiw, in my experience the SA chinese shops have actually usable knives/glassware/etc (not cast iron specifically tho), and are guaranteed not to pretensewall, or at least, not in the same manner.
10:54 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829343 << El Kiki or another? Everyone here has a mochila
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10:54 a111 Logged on 2018-06-24 19:38 mircea_popescu: recall that lulzy mochilla dood ?
10:57 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/25/a-locking-door-gets-nearer/ << Bingo Blog - A Locking Door Gets Nearer
10:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: oh hah, i thought today was Getting Keys day
11:06 mod6 ah, well, let's hope the docs get signed today then
11:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Today is. Provided dude shows up.
11:08 asciilifeform aah
11:08 BingoBoingo less than three hours away
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12:40 mircea_popescu spyked> I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach << that ~started with a genesis~.
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12:40 mircea_popescu so did diana_coman 's eucrypt.
12:40 mircea_popescu genesis should have included exactly the thing you published.
12:46 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829397 << imho a genesis oughta be a proggy, if a minimal one << nah, a genesis can well be nothing more than the manifest, if the manifest is a one line poem.
12:46 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 12:20 spyked: I think there's great benefit in the ffa chapter-based approach, so I'm not sure yet what the genesis should include. maybe only the lispm piece? or only the spec file from lispm? my sense so far is that after some discussion, at least some of the parts will be rewritten
12:47 mircea_popescu there is ~no~ benefit to delaying genesis-ification. all it buys one is the naggum stupidity, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829365
12:47 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 06:15 mircea_popescu: this habit of "i'll publish" is on the record having killed more smart men than the police.
12:47 mircea_popescu that's the one part of naggum you absolutely do not want.
12:47 mircea_popescu we already have a mechanism to deal with irrelevance, there's no need for an ad-hoc, broken, personal implementation whenever something useful may be occuring, to fuck it up.
12:48 asciilifeform speaking , incidentally, of 'publishing before perishing' :
12:48 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nLG1g/?raw=true << hey mircea_popescu , what does this look liek to you ?
12:48 asciilifeform because to asciilifeform it looks like a lolnobus
12:48 asciilifeform ( not, naturally, any such thing in the public src )
12:49 mircea_popescu but to reiterate : there's nothing wrong with a broken, not complete, not working, not pretty etc genesis. most neonates are also not worth the fucking.
12:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform like a pile of magic numbers, vaguely reminiscent of "what letter is on the left bottom of page 23 of manual" crap
12:50 asciilifeform ( spoiler : seems to clumsily look for string 'escue' and some, yet to be determined, magical attribute of a candidate rsa sig )
12:51 asciilifeform some entirely non-rsaific attribute, that is
12:52 mircea_popescu right!
12:54 asciilifeform and it does seem to get called in the case when neither half of rom passes rsa sig...
12:55 mircea_popescu escue, you know, the portion of rescue to regexp if you're too lazy to tease out off by one errors.
12:55 asciilifeform that very same
12:55 asciilifeform how else.
12:56 mircea_popescu because to the malbolge programmer, "is %a in %b" implemented as what index of %b is %a at can't be safely >0'd, has to be >1'd.
13:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
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13:01 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 14:53 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829350 << We don't have many chinese here other than recent arrival prospectors, but definitely going to start knocking on doors.
13:01 mircea_popescu personal, lived experience.
13:02 mircea_popescu it comes with other benefits, because they're well connected throughout, if you want a cop fired or a permit bit flipped ("hey, i want my restaurant to serve alcohol" / "hey, i want the restaurant downstairs to lose alcohol license so i can sleep") or whatever else they can probably help.
13:02 mircea_popescu in short, if in latam you want to make contact with the underground chinese republic first week not 2nd year.
13:03 mircea_popescu of course, they're only impressed by two things : a) wealth or b) a mastery of chinese culture. so you're in a bit of a weak spot wrt. but being in a weak spot dun change what the world is.
13:06 * asciilifeform has yet to meet the chinese who have a millifuck re anyffing whatsoever but wealth full-bore
13:06 asciilifeform *gave a
13:07 asciilifeform i think they 'when i hear 'culture', i reach for my pistol' more or less to a man
13:08 mircea_popescu not fwis.
13:08 mircea_popescu but of course, their idea of culture has nohing to see with what the wykeham professor of cocksucking might've told obama rice or condolezza hussein or whatever.
13:09 mircea_popescu i'll give you a simple example, by way of illumination.
13:10 mircea_popescu often, [one of] their intakes (ie, like this place) will be a large chinese restaurant. in this busy, cheap place most people come to eat. some people who come to eat also notice the elderly gentleman sitting quietly in the back somewhere at a table, usually by himself, having tea if anything.
13:12 mircea_popescu some of these people might even observe he's still there later that day, and early or late the next day, and so on. so they might politely approach, and state their business, "respectable old man, chow dicks sent me from fuk-u province, i must so and so". and the old man will politely tell you to come back so and so later and so on.
13:12 mircea_popescu this is what fucking culture is, finding uses for things. what are you going to do with an old man ?
13:12 mircea_popescu can't let him own the place, like fucktarded whitey. it's no good. can't throw him out on the street. wut do ?
13:12 mircea_popescu gatekeeper, keeps everyone happy. and in this sort of excellence of employment, the benefit of multi-millenary civilisation shows.
13:13 mircea_popescu they resolved problems the yahoos in our colonies daren't even touch yet.
13:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829421 < http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-17#832023 / http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/
13:17 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 14:54 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-24#1829343 << El Kiki or another? Everyone here has a mochila
13:17 a111 Logged on 2014-09-17 04:25 mthreat: mircea_popescu: see this yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
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13:34 mircea_popescu and similarily, i use my own whores to recruit young'uns ; but the chinese use their mothers. because what can you possibly do with an old woman ? what's she for in this world, if she isn't lubing up the teens and showing them how to fold their legs, a la http://trilema.com/2015/carnita/ ?
13:35 mircea_popescu what, she's gonna http://archive.is/JHLA3#selection-199.49-199.83 ? that's neither fucking useful not in any sense interesting, another http://trilema.com/2014/leonard-cohen-and-what-his-unhappy-life-can-teach-us/#selection-55.19-55.45
13:35 mircea_popescu vying for male attention "on her own terms", which happen to be so counter-productive she's more pitiful than an old dog sleeping on a fresh grave.
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14:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sometimes goes to place exactly like-that, complete with old man
14:05 asciilifeform but given as asciilifeform dun speak cn , never got anywhere
14:06 mircea_popescu yes well.
14:07 * asciilifeform prolly doomed to learn cn at some point
14:07 mircea_popescu the problem is significantly compounded by the fact absolutely nobody wants to fuck the ugly dyspepsia victims they spawn. those are women ?! in what bugworld.
14:07 asciilifeform it so happens that i dun dislike'em
14:08 mircea_popescu well then you're doomed.
14:08 mircea_popescu russkis, you know, the only reason they still exist anymore than poland today is that they're the only white people that can find anything attractive in the balls-of-lank.
14:10 asciilifeform 'when will you take me relax'(cn postdoc chix to a young asciilifeform)
14:10 mircea_popescu roflmao.
14:11 mircea_popescu the engrish is so fucking flavour-specific, too.
14:11 asciilifeform verily
14:11 mircea_popescu anyway, they prolly lub you, seems to be alf traits muchly valued in "'when i hear 'culture', i reach for my pistol" china.
14:12 asciilifeform can even make a sort of conversation with these, once succeed in snapping'em out of that human ant mode where the most interesting thing in the universe is the petrol station where 2cents cheaper etc
14:13 mircea_popescu i wouldn't be so harsh.
14:13 mircea_popescu tell them "i am a lord of this republic thingee, looking for a female chinese slave", see what they say.
14:13 asciilifeform fwiw ru emigres (esp of the elderly sort) often stuck in exact same mode
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15:45 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829452 << ty for the insight
15:45 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 17:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829419 << here's a pro tip : the chinese own the argentine supply chain (all those "supermercados") and, to a lesser but present degree uruguayan. they have a very powerful informal banking system, for one thing, meaning that if you know one or two of the old chinese women handling their repatriation of cash needs you're in a prime position to move millions, as i can personally confirm from
15:45 BingoBoingo Imma have to find where the Chinese that aren't recent arrival WTC suit guys are hiding
15:52 BingoBoingo But its official. I now have the keys.
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15:52 BingoBoingo Next stop the tramite de luz
15:53 mircea_popescu nice going!
15:54 mod6 hey cool, BingoBoingo !
15:55 ben_vulpes aaaawesome
15:55 diana_coman wow, congrats BingoBoingo !
15:55 BingoBoingo I was told the way to do that tramite is over the telephone in the dead of night to experience less hold music
16:05 lobbes hey congrats BingoBoingo! Nothing like being able to shit in solitude on-demand, I tell you what
16:10 mircea_popescu well, until he gets to the point where he has a girl to lick him clean because tp's too rough, at any rate.
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16:10 mircea_popescu there's something to be said for shitting in company!
16:11 lobbes well sure. but now he's got the options covered!
16:12 mod6 Rim-Jobs: Now, On-Demand and with Enthusiasm
16:12 mircea_popescu live toiletry kit!
16:14 mircea_popescu lobbes btw, any chance you implement a !Qsearch to go to duck duck go ?
16:15 mircea_popescu like ye olde ;;google worked but really, no reason to have google still involved in any web process (in fact, i very much recommend iptable-blocking all their ip ranges, because whether you know or not, 80% or so of websites out there tattle back to usg.alphabet, via "google analytics" or w/e else)
16:15 lobbes I think I could. Problem here is that lobbesbot has two search commands as it is (!Qs for searching #eulora logs, and !Qsarchive for searching archive). Would need to dis-ambiguate
16:15 lobbes I guess !Qduck
16:16 * lobbes also needs to figure out iptables on rockchip. thing was complaining about missing modules earlier; won't start
16:16 mircea_popescu sure, !Qddg
16:16 lobbes works
16:18 lobbes now I feel like a true lord, my tmsr todo list has like 30 items lol. Forcing me into better organize myself though
16:18 lobbes I need one of these whiteboards everyone talks about
16:18 lobbes text files don't jump out at you every day in the same manner
16:19 diana_coman get a kid - that one jumps at you even more!!
16:19 * diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
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16:19 mircea_popescu i recall that thing\
16:20 lobbes oh god. I can't imagine digging through eulora source code while simultaneously dealing with kid interfacing at x irregular intervals
16:20 lobbes I used to think I wanted kids, but really, I'm starting to see the 'pyramid scheme' angle talked about in the logs
16:21 diana_coman ah, no, work time is work time, can't really mix them
16:21 diana_coman programming doesn't go well with interruptions or at least not for me
16:22 lobbes makes sense. I was going to say, diana_coman must have shiva-arms extending from brain
16:22 * diana_coman is actually quite poor at multitasking
16:23 diana_coman lobbes, the part that is not obvious when you see only random kids is that they learn what *you* show them; so if you make it clear work time and get them busy at that time etc there's no problem really
16:28 lobbes I can see it. It is true my only exposure in my life to kids thus far has been the unrestrained wildebeasts of the US-variety.
16:28 lobbes *wildebeest
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17:43 BingoBoingo How many times will I be on hold befor this phone tramite ends
17:45 asciilifeform in other publish-or-perish : ...i'ma prolly burn in hell for this, but ida shits out wincrapola line endings and so for now these 'pre-print' screenshits will have to do :
17:45 asciilifeform (1) http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ida/cr50_fritz_ro_sig.png (2) http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ida/cr50_fritz_hitler_enforcer.png (3) http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ida/cr50_fritz_hitler_enforcement_businessend.png (4) http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/ida/cr50_fritz_pinned_pubs.png
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17:46 asciilifeform going in order: (1) is the sig header tested by the boot maskrom ( contents not known, but can be guessed at, it has 1 hard-wired pubkey ). this we will call cr50 hitler key #0 . it cannot be changed by fw updater.
17:47 asciilifeform (2) is the ro (sorta misnomer, it is upgradeable) rsa checker routine, it is very loosely based on the ancient published one seen in https://github.com/coreboot/chrome-ec/blob/b9f5a3d6baae84950f5ff0c4f7c588e55944818a/chip/g/loader/launch.c , but with a few twists
17:48 asciilifeform one of them is that it pins (forces the payload pubkeys to be one of the 2 given), the two options are seen in (4)
17:49 asciilifeform (3) is the actual routine that forces keyid to be one of the 2 , we will call'em hitler key #1 and #2 , the latter is http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2F5EC26698365939D499561F385A39A4217604DEB38913D71AFD135B28009DAF , the former i have not converted yet (along with #0 ).
17:49 asciilifeform the routine linked earlier to mircea_popescu , prolly dun help us much, to activate it one must somehow corrupt the entire rom
17:49 asciilifeform ( or rather, flip at least 1 bit in each half of it)
17:52 asciilifeform seen in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/c101pa_unlock_nodice.txt , 'RO keyid: 0xaa66150f(prod)' corresponds to keyid of #0, and 'RW keyid: 0xde88588d(prod)' is #2 ; #1 is '0xb93d6539' and not seen in the sysinfo msg, but does show up in early vers of fw (e.g. https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/400418 ) and prolly is dedicated nsakey
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17:53 asciilifeform ^ phf , mircea_popescu , other interested folx ^
17:55 asciilifeform ( for n00bz / folx innocent of ida : the procedure names in the screenshits, are naturally asciilifeform's , they are not present in the bin )
17:55 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-remove-usgalphabet-usually-called-google-by-the-jews-pantsuit-from-your-web-experience/ << Trilema - How to remove USG.Alphabet (usually called "google" by the jews & pantsuit) from your web experience.
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17:57 asciilifeform fwiw i've confirmed that #1 is ~not~ any of the privkeys published at various times in their shithub.
17:57 asciilifeform ('dev keys')
18:02 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829496 << congrats BingoBoingo !
18:02 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 19:52 BingoBoingo: But its official. I now have the keys.
18:03 BingoBoingo Should have power between 9 and 18 tomorrow
18:03 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829504 << iirc even the meanest hotel in BingoBoingostan, has bidet
18:03 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 20:10 mircea_popescu: well, until he gets to the point where he has a girl to lick him clean because tp's too rough, at any rate.
18:03 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829520 << imho it is a troo gem for the ages
18:03 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 20:19 diana_coman set up The Incredible Machine dos-version even for said child and he's totally hooked
18:03 * asciilifeform actually played the whole thing, incl the expansion pack, fughet what it was called
18:10 asciilifeform btw typo, 'also_keyid' etc is incorrect name, really it is a ptr to the modulus
18:10 asciilifeform but this is 'obvious to alert reader'(tm)(r)
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18:11 asciilifeform but , tldr -- phf was of course right , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829126 was 'too good to be true'
18:11 a111 Logged on 2018-06-23 20:39 phf: "beware of dog"? seems unlikely though..
18:13 asciilifeform !Qddg 0xb93d6539
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18:13 asciilifeform hmm i guess dunwork quite yet
18:17 asciilifeform in related lulz, the google dev shithub etc do mention that they use a usb 'fob' for signing. which suggested that maybe infineon-lulz
18:17 asciilifeform !#s infineon
18:17 a111 31 results for "infineon", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=infineon
18:17 asciilifeform ... but asciilifeform ran the litmus on'em, and no dice
18:17 asciilifeform so prolly not infineon, in their 'fob'.
18:17 asciilifeform if anyone finds out what is in that thing, plox to write in !!
18:20 asciilifeform from preliminary dig, seems that there are at least 6 'people' with access to the hitler signer box.
18:24 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
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18:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nothing better than the short fp available to identify that #1 ?
18:55 asciilifeform whole key is in (4), i'ma throw it in phuctor later this wk
18:55 mircea_popescu good.
18:55 asciilifeform ( their keyid aint even fp, they're arbitrary crapola )
18:56 mircea_popescu http://archive.is/vQJn5#selection-30541.468-30541.481 ftr
18:56 asciilifeform yea i found buncha these
18:56 asciilifeform all ~same thing
18:56 mircea_popescu well so then it is published ?
18:56 asciilifeform only the fp
18:56 mircea_popescu you mean, cuz it's only in old src ?
18:56 mircea_popescu aha.
18:57 asciilifeform the whole pub is afaik only in the bin
18:57 asciilifeform ( does not occur in their sores repo whole )
18:57 asciilifeform brb
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19:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: initially i thought it was possibly one of their 'dev keys', where the privs were at various points checked into their shithub ( since 'deleted' but unsurprisingly still visible with a small spot of work )
19:19 asciilifeform i'ma stuff these too into phuctor for good measure.
19:19 asciilifeform ( whoknows, could, in asteroid's chance, have shared factor with a live one )
19:21 asciilifeform if it wasn't clear from the turdolade earlier, i'll note for the record : their published 'loader' is not ~entirely~ unrelated to the live one; it is, i suspect, prototype, from the fpga days
19:21 asciilifeform since then it was tightened down and send to become the maskrom.
19:21 asciilifeform *sent
19:22 asciilifeform if it happens that the crown j00lz end up within reach of mircea_popescu's black bags, the top prize, ftr, is key #0
19:22 asciilifeform the leakage of its priv would be ~= thermonuke demolition of the whole edifice, they'd have to bake new mask roms
19:24 asciilifeform the runner-up prizes are #1 and #2, leakage of ~these~ would allow liberation of the existing cr50's, but the boojum of 'box in airport luggage can get reflashed via usb by enemy troops' would remain just as nao
19:24 asciilifeform #0 is analogous to e.g. crapple's master key for ipnoje.
19:25 asciilifeform #1 and #2 correspond to e.g. microshit's subkeys, the kind issued to driver vendors
19:26 asciilifeform the contents of the maskrom per se may or may not be valuable (it may contain an unofficial backdoor of whatever sort, or may not)
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19:53 mircea_popescu i see.
19:56 BingoBoingo The chromebook appliance thing just keeps getting weirder
19:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: actually pretty boring thus far. seems to be exactly what asciilifeform expected.
19:57 BingoBoingo I mean the part where a fob exists that isn't infineon
20:05 asciilifeform aa
20:12 BingoBoingo In the latest update sometime within the next three days the fiber company will call to set up an appointment to install a pipe to the apartment.
20:20 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/06/amazon-adds-jurry-option-to-firing-process/ << Qntra - Amazon Adds Jurry Option To Firing Process
20:20 BingoBoingo title fxd
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21:50 * mod6 reads scrollback
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22:26 mod6 nice pics alf
22:26 mod6 thanks for the script mircea_popescu!
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22:49 asciilifeform ftr : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829540 >>> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EBB714BB058A1C4E7038551D7311FD597B374E3EDAB9984D7D0A9470E9E1A804 ;
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22:49 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 21:52 asciilifeform: seen in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/c101pa_unlock_nodice.txt , 'RO keyid: 0xaa66150f(prod)' corresponds to keyid of #0, and 'RW keyid: 0xde88588d(prod)' is #2 ; #1 is '0xb93d6539' and not seen in the sysinfo msg, but does show up in early vers of fw (e.g. https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/400418 ) and prolly is dedicated nsakey
22:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829558 >>> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/69C67DD61F3A73D8F7929FE42E8CC87B8F589707B2BB4B143C85CC397A1634E2 .
22:50 a111 Logged on 2018-06-25 22:13 asciilifeform: !Qddg 0xb93d6539
22:51 asciilifeform this completes the set of extant (afaik) cr50 fritz keys , on phuctor .
22:52 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-6-26#388015 << continuing a thread from #p; i'm partway through reimplementing createtransaction such that it takes a change address; there's no reason to keep the individual transaction size limit, is there?
22:52 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-06-26 02:33 ben_vulpes: i'm not familiar with the design imperative driving the individual transaction size limitation, is there a reason to keep an individual from making a 1mb transaction if they'd like to?\
22:53 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-23#1065769
22:53 a111 Logged on 2015-03-23 21:11 mircea_popescu: if i want to make a txn that's 1mb, i do.
22:53 ben_vulpes also http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/#selection-77.298-77.423
22:55 * asciilifeform strongly suspects that the cartel won't mine such a tx while they have any choice about it, but that's another matter
22:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exponent 3, coppersmith ?
23:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: possibly
23:04 asciilifeform typically the mod gotta be dumb in a particular way , for it to work tho
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23:42 mircea_popescu tru
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