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00:04 ckang !!up shivalry
00:04 deedbot shivalry voiced for 30 minutes.
00:04 shivalry Hi here for boobs
00:05 shivalry mircea_popescu: ^
00:07 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/take-a-pacific-piss-like-a-boss/ << Trilema - Take a Pacific piss like a boss.
00:17 mircea_popescu aite, 5a16fb77 shinohai
00:17 mircea_popescu i mean shivalry
00:18 shivalry Ty 1 min
00:21 mircea_popescu eh what is all this bs with taking > half an hour to produce a pic.
00:21 mircea_popescu ima start making them redo if they manage to get devoiced.
00:28 douchebag because women are idiots
00:28 mircea_popescu !!up tittybang
00:28 deedbot tittybang voiced for 30 minutes.
00:28 douchebag i tell them to hurry the fuck up
00:29 douchebag and then they take for fuckever every
00:32 shivalry https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RVnelIYH/image.png
00:33 mircea_popescu !!pay shivalry 0.02
00:33 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/60nvj/?raw=true
00:33 trinque technically that one has 3 tits. what a steal.
00:33 mircea_popescu shivalry where'd you get the eyes so big!
00:34 mircea_popescu !!up shivalry
00:34 deedbot shivalry voiced for 30 minutes.
00:34 shivalry Are they really that big? like bugs?
00:34 mircea_popescu in the greek tradition, they're outright oxen sized!
00:34 mircea_popescu (i kid you not, ox-eyed was a compliment 3k years ago)
00:35 shivalry In Asia they have surgery for big eyes I believe
00:35 mircea_popescu i believe.
00:35 mircea_popescu so what do you do, other than having big eyes ?
00:36 shivalry Waitress
00:36 shivalry Hard sometimes but tips well.
00:36 shivalry You?
00:37 mircea_popescu i mostly tell people what not to do.
00:37 shivalry 😛
00:37 shivalry Any suggestions?
00:37 mircea_popescu well, i don't know you well enough.
00:40 shivalry Do you live a Christian lifestyle?
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00:41 mircea_popescu nopr. do you ?
00:42 shivalry Nope. Sin is too much fun
00:45 mircea_popescu so what do you do for sin ?
00:46 shivalry Sex, lust, chemicals
00:47 mircea_popescu anything published ?
00:47 shivalry I've only done this for BFs so unless they put them somewhere, not to my knowledge.
00:48 mircea_popescu aha
00:49 shivalry Do you alter your mind ever?
00:49 mircea_popescu well, i change my mind on occasion, but alter it ? not really.
00:50 shivalry LSD?
00:50 mircea_popescu not this decade.
00:50 shivalry 😄 so before
00:51 mircea_popescu why, is it important ?
00:51 shivalry Nope, I just like to see how people look at such things
00:51 mircea_popescu i'm kinda happy with my mind as it is, myself.
00:51 shivalry Abstinence vs moderation
00:52 mircea_popescu more a case of disinterest.
00:52 shivalry I believe the mind can be made malleable again under the right circumstances.
00:53 mircea_popescu malleable in what sense ? as in childhood malleable ?
00:53 shivalry Learning, understanding abstracts
00:53 shivalry We shell ourselves off with age and our thoughts become cemented.
00:53 mircea_popescu leaving aside the very obvious "why on earth would you want something like that", it's a matter of certainty that no such wonder is chemically achievable.
00:55 shivalry What about psychotherapy ? MDMA in a clinical environment for PTSD
00:55 mircea_popescu wank.
00:55 mircea_popescu consider a simple and more obvious case : taking a specialized cell and convincing it to revert to stem situation.
00:56 mircea_popescu this is not possible, very strictly, because specialization happens in a single enthalpic direction : through information loss. no specialized cell will ever be a stem cell again, exactly in the way no broken glass will become the glass it was again.
00:56 mircea_popescu now, you CAN induce chemically something very much like stem situation.
00:56 mircea_popescu this is known as cancer.
00:56 shivalry I suppose the retardation is more difficult, similar to something thats been oxidized.
00:56 mircea_popescu and yes, you have carcinogenic substances, which make specialized cells "malleable". it's never superpowers, though.
00:57 mircea_popescu it's always a sad miserable death.
00:58 shivalry Ive seen this work out poorly though, yes
00:58 mircea_popescu there's no good reason to suspect the above model is not exactly the case with neurons and neotenification. moreover, there's EXCELLENT reason to suspect the interest is quite psychogenic.
00:59 shivalry It shouldn't be used as the sole means but rather a tool is where people get it misunderstood.
01:01 mircea_popescu so the good talk therapist would point out to the person interested in this particular magic pill exactly what he'd say to the "i want ai because i don't have a gf" nut : "have you tried the NATURALLY OCCURING solutions first ?"
01:01 mircea_popescu rather than trying to revert to an imagined childhood to resolve whatever frustation/block, how about just being an adult.
01:02 shivalry Sometimes ego death has benefits though.
01:02 mircea_popescu in any case, without exception known or possible, the adult that hallucinates childhood as a preferrable state has ~other~ issues.
01:02 mircea_popescu shivalry almost every time, which is why slavegirls.
01:03 mircea_popescu but this is principally a measure of how broken the society they come from actually is.
01:03 shivalry Slavegirls, can you explain how that works?
01:03 shivalry You actually buy them outright?
01:03 mircea_popescu what buy. they volunteer.
01:03 shivalry Oic
01:04 shivalry What does that situation look like, dynamics wise?
01:04 mircea_popescu !!up shivalry
01:04 deedbot shivalry voiced for 30 minutes.
01:05 mircea_popescu mmm. like http://trilema.com/2017/why-would-any-girl-want-to-be-a-slave/ i guess ? or http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ ?
01:05 shivalry I would like some slave boys 😍
01:05 mircea_popescu why lol.
01:05 mircea_popescu !!rate shivalry 1 waitress
01:05 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7K3dO/?raw=true
01:06 shivalry Idk, the idea of someones life revolving around appeasing me. Seems powerful feeling.
01:06 mircea_popescu i guess. seems like a shitty reason though.
01:06 shivalry I suppose it goes both ways though too...
01:06 shivalry I am just unsure how such a situation works in practice.
01:07 shivalry You need a documentary. Ideas are received better through media sometimes.
01:08 mircea_popescu i guess.
01:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform check this out man, it's made! retropistol! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTVQDkF0Q_s
01:20 shivalry mircea_popescu: My friend want to do too, can they use this account?
01:21 mircea_popescu notrly, but she could make her own neh ?
01:21 shivalry Yea I have ckang help then. Ty
01:33 ckang !!up lilly_
01:33 deedbot lilly_ voiced for 30 minutes.
01:33 lilly_ Hi, ready to go
01:35 lilly_ mircea_popescu: Hello
01:36 mircea_popescu hey there.
01:36 mircea_popescu !!key lilly_
01:36 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/81C24E2047319496E7A75CAEBB75756D799E7CD9.asc
01:36 lilly_ :)
01:36 mircea_popescu 905362b1
01:37 lilly_ Thanks
01:39 mircea_popescu shivalry say !!up to deedbot, it'll voice you.
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02:07 mircea_popescu !!up lilly_
02:07 deedbot lilly_ voiced for 30 minutes.
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02:32 lilly_ Sorry had a phonecall, same # mircea_popescu ?
02:32 lilly_ Or still want?
02:32 lilly_ I do this one then brb
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02:47 mircea_popescu nah it's ok lilly_ , you'll be famous for the hundred dollar phonecall. neeeext.
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03:33 ckang !!up danna33
03:33 deedbot danna33 voiced for 30 minutes.
03:34 danna33 mircea_popescu: Ready
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07:24 deedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/06d-what-is-an-os.html << The Tar Pit - What is an operating system?
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09:14 asciilifeform !!up ascii_lander
09:14 deedbot ascii_lander voiced for 30 minutes.
09:14 ascii_lander !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uD7Fi/?raw=true
09:14 deedbot 9AC2C92DC81DF86C575819F93F37D38EAF9EDE6C registered as ascii_lander.
09:15 asciilifeform !!rate ascii_lander 1 asciilifeform's lander module, 4.14 -- 4.19
09:15 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ooK8u/?raw=true
09:16 asciilifeform !!v 182DA324B828FAFD816A51AA834435D93C12B0D9F974B7346F8B84D8992497B4
09:16 deedbot asciilifeform rated ascii_lander 1 << asciilifeform's lander module, 4.14 -- 4.19
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10:29 BingoBoingo So there is a very small fraction of the people normally at the CoWork on Fridays here. I can't tell if it is because it is Friday the 13th or if it is the Mumps outbreak.
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10:50 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/russia-preparing-economic-sanctions-against-us-industry/ << Qntra - Russia Preparing Economic Sanctions Against US Industry
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11:07 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694066 <-- experimental indecent (no ssd, no sata3) node has kept reliably at top for > 2 months after installing asciilifeform's aggressive pushget blocks patch; conclusion so far: can be indecent IF only aggressive too!
11:07 a111 Logged on 2017-08-04 22:56 asciilifeform: and this is true of pretty much any box that makes decent trb node (i.e. has sata3 + ssd )
11:15 mod6 thanks for the update diana_coman. i've been running with that patch too -- I've had some falling behind I believe not related to his vpatch, and instead related to ssd disk flakyness (as detailed in last month's SoBA).
11:15 mod6 I did a core dump, and the call stack seems to indicate when I'm "stuck", it's stuck in an lseek() call.
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11:20 mod6 That's all I've got. Here's a link to that if curious: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema-mod6?d=2018-4-30
11:20 BingoBoingo Generally since aggression nodes began the trb ecosystem has been much more sync'd from my perch.
11:20 mod6 The disassembly linked in there is gone now, reposted here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/eT1BM/?raw=true
11:31 diana_coman mod6, fwiw I'm again locked out of trilema-mod6 ("channel is invite only")
11:35 mod6 oh my bad
11:36 mod6 there ya go
11:36 diana_coman yay, thanks!
11:36 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/ingsoc-today-british-baker-under-assault-for-eschewing-metric-system/ << Qntra - Ingsoc Today: British Baker Under Assault For Eschewing Metric System
11:39 diana_coman mod6, I had a look at that dump but sadly I can't say I get what's going on exactly atm
11:44 mod6 ok np
11:44 mod6 thanks for taking a peek at the disasm
11:44 mod6 i do have core files available if you request them. will pgp-gram them to you, rather large tho.
11:56 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1797998 << heh, a response to "i tell people what not to do" -- shivalry, did you know the Bible tells us to encourage your indulgences for so long as God hasn't forced you to believe in Him?
11:56 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 04:40 shivalry: Do you live a Christian lifestyle?
11:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798080 << how about now ?
11:56 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 07:34 danna33: mircea_popescu: Ready
11:57 mircea_popescu !!up danna33
11:57 deedbot danna33 voiced for 30 minutes.
11:57 mircea_popescu danielpbarron amusingly enough, the argument can well be brought that the seeking lost are closer than the content.
11:57 danielpbarron !~bible pro 31:6
11:57 jhvh1 danielpbarron: [KJV] Proverbs 31:6 :: Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
11:59 danielpbarron mircea_popescu, yes i was just discussing that yesterday. the lost man who thinks his life sucks verses the lost man who thinks his life is great : the former is at least one step closer to the truth of the matter
11:59 mircea_popescu by the time some waitress somewhere's willing to try just about any chemsludge in the hope she might extract herself from the imposition of the world as she perceives it, you'd be at serious pains to show her much of a sinner.
12:00 mircea_popescu but of course, the methodist heresy is strong in our colonies, they imagine sin is the form of sin to avoid looking at the substance of anything.
12:00 danielpbarron !~bible rom 3:23
12:00 jhvh1 danielpbarron: [KJV] Romans 3:23 :: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
12:00 danielpbarron not so painful there
12:01 mircea_popescu well yes in that sense.
12:02 mircea_popescu but i said ~much~ of a sinner.
12:04 danielpbarron drunkards wills not inherit the kingdom of God; a lost man is not saved by drinking a lot -- the strong drink offer is twofold: if you are going to perish (burn in hell), you might as well enjoy life now ; and, maybe in your drunkeness you will see the folly of your lifestyle, and turn to God
12:05 mircea_popescu the brief discussion supports the interpretation, her justification ultimately was "maybe i find something".
12:05 mircea_popescu !!up shivalry
12:05 deedbot shivalry voiced for 30 minutes.
12:05 danielpbarron but the lost man is not saved by his abstinence either
12:06 mircea_popescu wb diana_coman !
12:06 danielpbarron and in living what he imagines to be a righteous lifestyle, is perhaps less likely to turn to the truth
12:06 diana_coman thanks mircea_popescu !
12:06 mircea_popescu how was teh wilderness ?
12:07 diana_coman the one in the woods quite as usual if changed for the usual erosion that has been going on in that area ever since I know it; the town-wilderness was somehow sad beyond description
12:08 mircea_popescu in other news, http://www.jo99.fr/ << check out the "game" this artist chick came up with. it's something else.
12:10 diana_coman for all the supposed Easter and all the supposed town, it felt for the first time like the villages in Baragan; possibly part of the explanation it's also the first time I saw queues (as in actual queues, more than 20 people) at the ..."currency exchange and pawn shop" places
12:10 mircea_popescu heh
12:11 mircea_popescu "why bother do anything anymore" right. nuts.
12:11 diana_coman ugh, barfs that I don't have flash I suppose
12:12 mircea_popescu why'd someone package a "click through my art" in flash is anyone's guess. wtf the parasitosis!
12:12 diana_coman yes, a very palpable sense of "why bother do anything anymore" / "no hope, no tomorrow, no nothing" sort of thing
12:13 mircea_popescu diana_coman http://www.jo99.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/krystine-and-the-chidren.jpg << sampler.
12:13 diana_coman ah, that part I see; I tried to click on Start...
12:14 mircea_popescu ah, yeah. anyway, it's pretty much a game of puzzle based on that chick's art.
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12:14 mircea_popescu meanwhile in spykedisms, 'I further propose that current definitions of the term operating system are ill-conceived, and that the problem of how to properly design a general-purpose operating system is in principle unresolvable, first and foremost because there is no such thing as a "general-purpose operating system"'
12:15 diana_coman ah, ah, I think I know the sort; some inept "story line" in short bits and otherwise still gotta do the clicking for this or for that, either "farm" or "puzzle" or whatevers same thing underneath
12:16 douchebag !!up tittybang
12:16 deedbot tittybang voiced for 30 minutes.
12:16 mircea_popescu it has a decent atmosphere of psychotic terror, but otherwise yes, some evil dood is sucking the life out of chained children to prolong his own.
12:16 mircea_popescu because totally children have like intrinsic value and we give a shit and whatnot.
12:16 douchebag hey I was away when she didn't know how to get revoiced
12:16 tittybang hi hehe
12:16 tittybang what was the code again?
12:16 mircea_popescu jaysus.
12:17 mircea_popescu tittybang 4b656366 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.
12:18 diana_coman mircea_popescu, hm, the blood they have what; life = vitality there
12:18 diana_coman or at least that was the old idea as far as I know it
12:18 mircea_popescu yawell.
12:20 mircea_popescu spyked how about THIS definition for the operating system : "that set of code that is trusted implicitly". this then makes EVERYTHING on a windows machine operating system, which i contend is right and proper -- the necessary result of opaque monolith systems design is universalization of the os.
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12:20 mircea_popescu now then, a "general purpose operating system" is "that set of code which is trusted implicitly", "as long as it makes no particular assumptions about the rest of the code that will run on the machine".
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12:21 mircea_popescu the moment we bake in the assumption that "this is a bitcoin node", suddenly the os is no longer gp ; we'll want a special fs in there etc.
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12:21 shinohai greets #trilema
12:21 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798144 <<< only browser game I ever tried resulted in winged cock.
12:21 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 16:14 mircea_popescu: ah, yeah. anyway, it's pretty much a game of puzzle based on that chick's art.
12:21 mircea_popescu other similar assumptions could be baked, "this is a phuctor ; this is a torrents box, etc". but irrespective -- if any is baked it's a special purpose and if none is baked its a general purpose os.
12:22 mircea_popescu hey shinohai
12:22 shinohai hai mircea_popescu how goes
12:22 trinque mircea_popescu: btw, that thing's coming along, gotta slap a kernel and bootloader on it, and we're done. maybe this evening.
12:22 mircea_popescu flying cocks everywhere!
12:22 mircea_popescu trinque cool deal.
12:22 shinohai !~dhxxx
12:22 jhvh1 http://btcinfo.sdf.org/library/DHXXX.html
12:22 * trinque afk for a while
12:23 mircea_popescu for instance, i'd very much like a spos for my torrent box -- a fs that only allocates the disk in 1mb chunks would be good ; a better nic driver would be better.
12:28 tittybang https://i.imgur.com/hXIg0Vv.jpg
12:29 mircea_popescu !!pay tittybang 0.02
12:29 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kiqgK/?raw=true
12:29 mircea_popescu bang bang
12:32 shinohai hey mircea_popescu that Trixxi girl messaged me on telegram and said she made a gpg key in kleopatra
12:33 mircea_popescu okies ?
12:34 mircea_popescu !!up TrixxC
12:34 deedbot TrixxC voiced for 30 minutes.
12:37 TrixxC hi https://imgur.com/a/eMJBn
12:39 mircea_popescu check out teh sudden productivities. what's that written there TrixxC , minnow ?
12:39 mircea_popescu !!pay TrixxC 0.02
12:39 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uw1sx/?raw=true
12:40 TrixxC oh gracias Sr. :)
12:42 shinohai it's raining tits of late. April showers and all i suppose
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12:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798095 << might be dying hdd i guess. does it have bad sectors etc ?
12:47 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 15:15 mod6: I did a core dump, and the call stack seems to indicate when I'm "stuck", it's stuck in an lseek() call.
12:53 mod6 Here's the output from smartclt against that device: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/E8Iml/?raw=true
12:55 mircea_popescu mod6 61 relocation events... i guess it's starting to go the way of rust.
12:55 mod6 yeah. and these chumbawumbas also sold me an old ass drive too
12:55 mod6 3509 hours
12:55 mircea_popescu oh, it's not in your hands it got that ?
12:55 mod6 that's 146 days. mind you, I only had this emplaced in my box in like beginning of march or some such.
12:56 mircea_popescu tsk.
12:56 mod6 nope. called dc, was like sweet as pie, "plz put in ssd, or i'll send you one, can you put in?" "yup, we've got one, no problem."
12:56 mircea_popescu well, dcs often reuse disks.
12:56 mod6 just was surprised 'tis all. thought it was new, or i would have sent one myself.
12:57 mod6 anyway, will take it up with them. but that's probably what i've been chasing for the lsat few weeks.
12:57 mircea_popescu in general anything under warranty is considered perfectly ok. and afaik it's 10k or 20k hours depending.
12:57 mircea_popescu mod6 it might be, i dunno it necessarily is, disk is far from dead-dead.
12:58 mod6 I'm still keeping an eye on it. I'm all ears if anyone has any debugging suggestions.
12:58 mircea_popescu mod6 keep an eye on the following item : lseek deaths vs increases of relocation counts.
12:58 mod6 (i gleaned 'lseek()' from the 0x8 syscall, not sure if im accurate on that tho)
12:59 mircea_popescu if they go up in step you have a pretty decent empirical reason to use raids like everyone else :D
12:59 mod6 lol, ok Sir. Thanks for the advise.
12:59 mod6 fwiw, other than this little hiccup, been running great.
12:59 mod6 (trb that is)
13:00 mircea_popescu cool deal.
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13:22 ben_vulpes http://www.understandfrance.org/France/Education3.html << make web design great again
13:31 mircea_popescu eh, french people.
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14:16 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/f-35-deliveries-halted-again-over-defects-and-contract-disputes/ << Qntra - F-35 Deliveries Halted Again Over Defects And Contract Disputes
14:28 mircea_popescu awww
14:31 douchebag yo mp
14:31 douchebag I got a girl
14:32 douchebag !!up thatbitchlola
14:32 deedbot thatbitchlola voiced for 30 minutes.
14:32 douchebag here she is
14:34 douchebag mircea_popescu:
14:34 mircea_popescu o
14:34 mircea_popescu you here to show your tits thatbitchlola ?
14:35 thatbitchlola yesssirie
14:36 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola 563661f6 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.
14:44 ckang !!up danna33
14:44 deedbot danna33 voiced for 30 minutes.
14:45 danna33 mircea_popescu: I am here for the titsforbits
14:45 mircea_popescu a hey there.
14:45 danna33 hey
14:45 douchebag https://i.imgur.com/epCvpDz.jpg
14:45 douchebag she texted it to me
14:45 thatbitchlola https://i.imgur.com/epCvpDz.jpg
14:45 thatbitchlola ^^^ me ^.^
14:45 mircea_popescu danna33 52454fae << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.
14:46 mircea_popescu !!pay thatbitchlola 0.02
14:46 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ptqvs/?raw=true
14:49 mircea_popescu so what do you do for a living thatbitchlola ?
14:49 thatbitchlola i do everything
14:50 mircea_popescu everything like what ?
14:51 thatbitchlola i used to be a prostitute, now i pimp out the younger girls
14:51 mircea_popescu so how much for the pair ?
14:52 thatbitchlola depends on the girl and what the guy is into
14:52 mircea_popescu so give me a rough idea ?
14:53 danna33 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MmO18MBi/image.png
14:53 mircea_popescu :) right back at you danna33 lol
14:53 mircea_popescu !!pay danna33 0.02
14:53 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WS75K/?raw=true
14:53 danna33 thanks !
14:54 thatbitchlola out of my girls
14:54 danna33 terrorist?
14:54 thatbitchlola they will do anything
14:54 mircea_popescu danna33 aan' what do you do for a living ?
14:54 thatbitchlola if the price is right
14:54 danna33 explain please
14:54 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola what area code is this ?
14:54 mircea_popescu danna33 like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797448
14:54 a111 Logged on 2018-04-12 17:27 mircea_popescu: zx2c4 the good news is that i am now finally in a position to explain what EXACTLY is meant by "terrorist" : that feeling in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797417 when shit keeps coming and coming and coming up. what is it, if not spiritual terror ?
14:58 danna33 it looks like it references itself
14:58 mircea_popescu nah, different lines.
14:58 mircea_popescu !!key thatbitchlola
14:58 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/734A00DE7C6C678CDA9952A16DF429AB89BA2F89.asc
14:59 thatbitchlola I used to sell heroin to douchebag same area as him
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14:59 BingoBoingo danna33: You are looking at the wrong side of the pointer. Gotta rotate it 45 degrees to your right
15:00 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola do you understand why you need crypto in your line ?
15:00 thatbitchlola yeah he was telling me how he used to buy bitcoin for 250 per
15:01 thatbitchlola and then he showed me the price of bitcoin and its like 8000 now! wtf whyy???
15:01 mircea_popescu bitcoin is a separate consideration. you know what this is : http://wot.deedbot.org/734A00DE7C6C678CDA9952A16DF429AB89BA2F89.asc ?
15:02 thatbitchlola he explained how this is how to secure communications that the feds cant crack
15:02 mircea_popescu or anyone else for that matter.
15:03 mircea_popescu !!up thatbitchlola
15:03 deedbot thatbitchlola voiced for 30 minutes.
15:03 mircea_popescu so now... you're still not going to say how much the all-nighter is for a pair ?
15:04 thatbitchlola $250-$500 depending on girl
15:04 BingoBoingo Pesos or U$D
15:05 thatbitchlola USD
15:06 BingoBoingo Then specify it por favor. Stahp spreading Chicago centricism and marginalizing rural voices.
15:07 mircea_popescu lol
15:08 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola and gotta come over to see the girls ?
15:10 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/13/fucking-starbucks/ << Bingo Blog - Fucking Starbucks
15:12 douchebag SluttyDiamond: is here for tits too
15:12 douchebag !!up SluttyDiamond
15:13 deedbot SluttyDiamond voiced for 30 minutes.
15:13 SluttyDiamond heyyyy lol im here to show my tits
15:13 douchebag mircea_popescu: is the one you need to talk to
15:14 hanbot douchebag what's with the overbearing announcement of each and every chick you invite in here?
15:14 mod6 welcome to irc.bitcoin-nipples.net
15:15 douchebag hanbot: ?
15:15 douchebag wym
15:15 douchebag i got a bunch interested right now
15:15 douchebag and i refer them here
15:15 ben_vulpes and clearly none of them can type on their own
15:15 hanbot it's pretty clear why they're here, between their saying so and their own statement of purpose. why do you put 1 - 5 lines of announcement for every.single.one?
15:15 hanbot are you just excited?
15:16 hanbot err, between their names and their own statement of purpose.
15:16 mircea_popescu SluttyDiamond 2fb5eb10 << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.
15:16 hanbot douchebag : just sayin', a lot of people read these logs. it gets tedious reading the announcement over and over again.
15:17 douchebag forsure, apologies
15:17 mircea_popescu tit streamlinin'.
15:17 hanbot thx douchebag
15:18 mircea_popescu douchebag so did we mostly see thatbitchlola 's stable, or are these actually unrelated caches ?
15:18 thatbitchlola elaborate?
15:19 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << recognize any of the tits there ?
15:20 thatbitchlola he showed me that link
15:20 mircea_popescu alright ; so they your girls or not ?
15:20 thatbitchlola oh no
15:20 mircea_popescu so then what's yo lazy ass waiting for, get the hos writing neh!
15:21 thatbitchlola SluttyDiamond: is my girl
15:21 mircea_popescu that way you can move into the future, conduct your negotiations as "three bitcents for 9348aafb and 2.5 bitcents for ffa03994"
15:21 mircea_popescu will give the old farts in the chicago senate heartburn.
15:23 thatbitchlola wait so I get extra for my girls?
15:24 BingoBoingo !!up haleyyyyy
15:24 deedbot haleyyyyy voiced for 30 minutes.
15:24 haleyyyyy Greetz :)
15:24 BingoBoingo haleyyyyy: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
15:24 haleyyyyy btc my daddy he likes tits
15:25 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola well, you get the publicity value.
15:25 hanbot <mircea_popescu> will give the old farts in the chicago senate heartburn. << haha there's a fact
15:25 haleyyyyy mircea_popescu: Hi
15:26 mircea_popescu haleyyyyy 96ddc81a << it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally.
15:26 mircea_popescu hanbot these are gonna become incantations lol. "hi i'm here to show you my tits" "<< it's good for about half a n hour, don't dilly-dally." and so on.
15:26 mircea_popescu ad-hoc specification of titbit faucet api!
15:27 * mircea_popescu 's experimentation in wetware computing & networking is proceeding apace.
15:27 thatbitchlola https://i.imgur.com/YVLl0kO.jpg
15:28 thatbitchlola i took that picture for SluttyDiamond
15:28 SluttyDiamond that's me lol
15:28 mircea_popescu heh.
15:28 mircea_popescu !!pay SluttyDiamond 0.02
15:29 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/p0JSX/?raw=true
15:33 mircea_popescu !!up thatbitchlola
15:33 deedbot thatbitchlola voiced for 30 minutes.
15:33 BingoBoingo Estoy esperado Alftime
15:33 mircea_popescu !!rate thatbitchlola 1 ex ho now pimp.
15:33 BingoBoingo *esperando
15:33 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vG38a/?raw=true
15:33 thatbitchlola im getting another girl right now!
15:34 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola you can voice yourself now ; say !!up to deedbot in a pm, then !!v the string it gives you (have to decrypt first)
15:35 thatbitchlola okay
15:48 thatbitchlola how long does this take to go through usually?
15:49 BingoBoingo thatbitchlola: trinque usually processes withdrawals once a day.
15:50 thatbitchlola it isn't even showing in my balance tho
15:51 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/aussies-bringing-shuttered-power-plant-back-online-for-electricity-sales-to-miners/ << Qntra - Aussies Bringing Shuttered Power Plant Back Online For Electricity Sales To Miners
15:56 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola not this long usually ; im waiting for trinque to show up there's something weird going on.
15:56 mircea_popescu !!up kori_
15:56 deedbot kori_ voiced for 30 minutes.
15:57 kori_ tits4bits?
15:57 mircea_popescu kori_ d3916aaa ; you got half an hour.
15:57 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: are you verifying the otps in private?
15:57 mircea_popescu yes.
15:57 ben_vulpes only guess i got
15:58 mircea_popescu zx2c4 talk to me here plox.
15:58 zx2c4 hello mircea_popescu
15:58 mircea_popescu how goes ?
15:58 zx2c4 it does go
15:58 mircea_popescu are you here for the tits ? :D
15:58 zx2c4 wondering - how might i achieve great wealth and donations for wireguard from you/trilema?
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15:59 BingoBoingo zx2c4: You spoke a lot yesterday, but neglected an important question: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
15:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo he's the wiredguard guy.
15:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, but that doesn't explain his daddy
15:59 mircea_popescu zx2c4 i don't get it, you just got a coin, should last you a while neh ?
15:59 zx2c4 my daddy is /proc/kcore and he's connected to a debugger.
16:00 mircea_popescu almost exactly alf's lieage!
16:00 zx2c4 mircea_popescu: some time, though of course not enough to support a whole project for a whole year. i'm wondering about great flowering riches
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16:00 mircea_popescu why are you doing systems programming if you're after great flowering riches ? go into business.
16:00 zx2c4 alas
16:01 zx2c4 i like systems programming in crypto
16:01 zx2c4 alas.
16:01 mircea_popescu so then do what you like. you'll never be rich, but with some luck you'll never die
16:01 mircea_popescu where luck mostly evaluates to "making sense to people in power".
16:01 zx2c4 i wasn't planning on immortality, but if you say so...
16:01 mircea_popescu die of hunger*
16:02 BingoBoingo Anything after 40 is bonus time anyways
16:02 zx2c4 so, slightly more disappointing of a prospect
16:02 douchebag mircea_popescu I'm talking to thatbitchlola right now, apparently she got paid before she registered her PGP key
16:03 douchebag could that be the reason?
16:03 mircea_popescu zx2c4 you pretty much work alone on the thing, don;t you ?
16:03 mircea_popescu douchebag it could but it's weird because i checked.
16:03 zx2c4 mircea_popescu: for the most part, though trying to get some interns this summer via GSoC
16:03 mircea_popescu douchebag maybe i checked too late. anyway, ima wait for the man to come by and set this straight.
16:03 mircea_popescu zx2c4 how's that work out btw ? i vaguely considered it for eulora but never actually bothered to push the point.
16:04 zx2c4 mostly really under-qualified applicants. but if you already know students who are smart, or have some better means of reaching out to them than just the gsoc landing page, then it's possible to hand select people you'd like to work on stuff, and give them summer funding.
16:05 mircea_popescu except of course if they're also dreaming of great towering riches in exchange for doing what they were going to do anyway.
16:05 zx2c4 yea. it pays worse than real internships. so the pool of students willing to do it is smaller than what you'd wish
16:06 zx2c4 large part of the student motivation is the mentoring, i suppose
16:06 mircea_popescu kinda why i never bothered ; basically the whole "tech" imperial flea circus is this game of trying to outsource your costs on a sucker. whether it's ugc or gsoc, or "investing" or w/e else.
16:07 zx2c4 which is why real funding for wireguard would be so much better
16:07 mircea_popescu i don't follow the logic ?
16:07 zx2c4 rare occurrence with FLOSS though
16:07 zx2c4 proper funding would mean fewer "suckers"
16:08 mircea_popescu no, it would just mean you'd be the sucker.
16:08 kori_ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZYiYA4UM/image.png
16:08 zx2c4 how come?
16:08 mircea_popescu understand, being poor is like being skinny : no lion running after you.
16:08 mircea_popescu zx2c4 you ever read http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/ ? it'd explain the matter thoroughly.
16:08 mircea_popescu !!key kori_
16:08 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/D801305F92A4A11B41D4536D106F3C9489215AE2.asc
16:09 mircea_popescu !!pay kori_ 0.02
16:09 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/10hUX/?raw=true
16:09 mircea_popescu kori_ sooo... when are you coming to costa rica ?
16:09 kori_ Thanks dear
16:09 kori_ Married 🤣
16:10 mircea_popescu ehehe aite.
16:10 kori_ But open
16:10 mircea_popescu well which is it ?
16:10 zx2c4 mircea_popescu: this article is about making a company right? i'm not doing that. im just writing painstaking careful code and giving it to the world for free
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16:10 mircea_popescu zx2c4 it's more generally about how the whole sucker business works.
16:10 zx2c4 ahh
16:11 mircea_popescu i promise you it's worth the read ; if you read it and think otherwise you can come here an' complain.
16:11 BingoBoingo So many experiments in programming the wetware today!
16:12 mircea_popescu and such diversity!
16:12 mircea_popescu costa rica is starting to rub off on me, biodiversidad Y TECHNODIVERSIDAD!
16:12 zx2c4 i still dont see how this applies to my situation,
16:12 zx2c4 but interesting read nonetheless
16:13 mircea_popescu zx2c4 it relates specifically to the "which is why real funding for wireguard would be so much better". no, it wouldn 't be. you'd just end up trapped in some sort of bullshit deal.
16:14 zx2c4 i'd be wary of any 'deal' that's different from: 'i'm given money. you're given warm feelings of having helped the internet.'
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16:15 mircea_popescu zx2c4 understand, this self-flattering notion that you're in control is bunk. you're in no position to be in control in that sense. all that you're filtering for by that mechanism is "bullshit deal i don't comprehend". which... of course you would be.
16:15 mircea_popescu evolution at work, the reason the fish doesn't remove the bloodsucker is that the bloodsucker is so designed as to sit in the fish's blind spot.
16:16 zx2c4 to put differently, if 2000 BTC suddenly showed up in 1ASnTs4UjXKR8tHnLi9yG42n42hbFYV2um, I'd be quite happy and don't think i'd be worse off
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16:16 mircea_popescu douchebag it's almost certainly due to their not having had keys ; because otherwise payments work.
16:16 mircea_popescu zx2c4 you'd be terribly worse off, and so would be the bitcoin ecosystem.
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16:17 zx2c4 the latter point -- because you suppose i'd convert it to EUR and that'd harm BTC in general?
16:17 mircea_popescu and in exactly the way a toddler suddenly getting 2000 Nm impulse would be worse off.
16:17 mircea_popescu zx2c4 no, because you'd do something stupid.
16:17 zx2c4 oh, i really don't think that'd be the case
16:17 mircea_popescu of course you don't. that's a necessary ingredient.
16:18 douchebag yeah because SluttyDiamond is having the same problem
16:18 zx2c4 i'm pretty certain no calamity would come of it...
16:19 mircea_popescu zx2c4 this certainty is borne out of nothing in particular. i've been sitting here for many years, watching many kinds and sorts of people getting power beyond their means.
16:20 douchebag once trinque vertifies that's the issue you'll repay them mircea_popescu - correct ?
16:20 zx2c4 i dont think it'd translate into any kind of significant "power beyond my means"
16:21 zx2c4 i realize that's the classic trope -- it's the kind of thing you read about all the time
16:21 zx2c4 but it clearly doesn't happen with _all people_
16:21 mircea_popescu douchebag yes.
16:21 mircea_popescu zx2c4 looky, the only reason you want "an infinity of monyz" is "so that i don't have to tihnk of monyz anymore", which is simply the way you've rephrased "so i can be stupid with impunity" in a way to meet your blindspots.
16:22 zx2c4 the reason is actually, "so that i can have a fixed income without any concrete labor obligations"
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16:22 mircea_popescu if you want a lot of monyz, business is the only way. there, you risk losing it, and you learn what it is and how it works. if that's not of your interest, you can never have it. period. even if you think you do, for whatever reason. are you familiar with the all-amusing ers example ?
16:22 mircea_popescu zx2c4 that's the same thing.
16:23 zx2c4 how does that necessarily lead to "being stupid"? what if i just choose to raise a boring family and live a boring life?
16:23 mircea_popescu what's dumber than that ?!
16:23 zx2c4 hahah
16:23 mircea_popescu money has specific needs of you, duh. what, you think it cares about your family ?
16:24 mircea_popescu you have to answer questions, and answer them correctly, and for ~all time.
16:24 zx2c4 that seems fine
16:25 zx2c4 i know a lot of rich people with trust funds set up by their ancestors. they receive fixed income every month, and otherwise aren't hassled
16:25 mircea_popescu and i know jewish cemeteries with upkept graves. what's the difference ?
16:26 mircea_popescu you're not about to tell me these shambling ruins are people or something.
16:26 mircea_popescu !!up lauren22
16:26 deedbot lauren22 voiced for 30 minutes.
16:26 lauren22 Hi, boobs?
16:26 mircea_popescu aite lauren22 ; 961325385 ; you got half hour.
16:27 zx2c4 one difference is that the ruins aren't people, not that they are, obviously. not sure i'm getting your rhetorical point...
16:27 mircea_popescu but what is the difference ? some ancestor decided to preserve his degeneration. as a rock or as a grandson, whatever. are they more than this ?
16:28 mircea_popescu occasionally hollywood nuts leave pets behind in the ~same situation also. they get a daily pellet and so on.
16:29 zx2c4 the point is that the grandson rarely has problems answering correctly to too many questions that necessitate correct responses
16:29 mircea_popescu what do you think the ur-question is ?
16:29 zx2c4 not sure
16:29 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2017/Кто-ты-по-жизни/
16:30 zx2c4 great seinfeld episode
16:31 mircea_popescu "What were you in this life ?" is no small matter. and yes it requires a correct answer ; what's the trust fund do for that ?
16:32 zx2c4 some rich kids seem to use their funds to pursue interesting things and deepen their character with those experiences. others waste away their time.
16:33 mircea_popescu and in all cases the answer comes back again and again, "i was an inadequate successor to a greater past".
16:34 mircea_popescu tis infinitely better to be a promising systems developer than to be a guy who wasn't cool enough for the chunk of bitcoin he got.
16:35 douchebag hey mircea_popescu do I get 0.01 for finding a flaw with deedbot again :D
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16:35 douchebag since it probably subtracted from your balance
16:35 zx2c4 i don't think so. plenty of people with the necessary leisure study or create literature, philosophy, music, art -- great aspects of civilization for which there isn't always an immediate economic incentive
16:35 mircea_popescu douchebag i checked and it did not substract!
16:36 douchebag oh
16:36 mircea_popescu zx2c4 so where's the 500 rembrandts ? (do you know the reference ?)
16:36 douchebag well
16:36 douchebag let me ask both of them
16:36 douchebag or actually
16:36 zx2c4 for example, i've spent my life studying greek philosophy and playing jazz music, and it doesn't pay anything. hence programming. but the economics of those activities doesn't really relate to their quality or importance
16:36 douchebag !!key thatbitchlola
16:36 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/734A00DE7C6C678CDA9952A16DF429AB89BA2F89.asc
16:36 douchebag !!key SluttyDiamond
16:37 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/85AD141CCB697037C12BADEA5180BCB42F6EA0D9.asc
16:37 douchebag they both have keys now
16:37 mircea_popescu zx2c4 but you are aware how the economics of either greek philosophy or jazz music worked irl ?
16:37 lauren22 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iDfnWOy9/image.jpg
16:37 zx2c4 i'm not saying everyone with leisure _does_ do something worthwhile with it. but you cant deny that leisure is in many cases a necessary precondition for many great aspects of civilization
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16:38 mircea_popescu but i affirm that you equivocate "lesiure", in that your idea of leisure is never what occured when actual civilisation was produced.
16:38 mircea_popescu who do you think the most notable of the greeks ?
16:39 zx2c4 yea, sure, im pretty certain of what it'd take to be financially viable in either philosophy or jazz music. that's not something universally available and there's a lot of luck involved, however, and even then it's a pretty rough life. it's not even available to all types of philosophy study and all types of jazz music.
16:39 zx2c4 i enjoy plato most
16:39 thatbitchlola wait so you figured out why it didn't send?
16:39 mircea_popescu zx2c4 so i take it you're familiar with history as retold by the esl : how socrates died, and how plato did not die.
16:40 mircea_popescu do you understand the terrible shame plato was, for socrates ?
16:40 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola probably, yes.
16:40 zx2c4 not sure i have the same interpretation of phaedo as you
16:41 zx2c4 im being interrupted now, but ill be back in a while to continue this
16:41 mircea_popescu nevermind phaedo. socrates tried, his whole life, to make people capable of standing on their own. and his products, among which plato is a minor outlier, held that bloody affair, where most of the city was gutted.
16:41 lauren22 Sorry did photo upload work?
16:41 mircea_popescu it was, make no mistake, an exact greek shoah.
16:41 mircea_popescu and aristotle had to face this desert before his eyes : here, you did what you thought best, and here's what came of it, your students trying to force innocent men to take part inb murders to avoid retribution.
16:42 mircea_popescu this scandal is why aristotle didn't even fucking want plato's disgusting silver.
16:42 mircea_popescu and now think -- that for his great merits, aristotle was in fact given by the city "2000 btc", ie exactly what you mean by it, "sufficient money so as i can be a righteous man alone".
16:42 mircea_popescu you can't fucking BE righteous alone.
16:42 mircea_popescu lauren22 yes 1 sec
16:43 mircea_popescu !!pay lauren22 0.02
16:43 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3hOSn/?raw=true
16:43 lauren22 ❤️
16:43 mircea_popescu what do you do for a living ?
16:43 thatbitchlola would you be able to pay me and sluttydiamond now that we added our keys?
16:43 lauren22 Watch over my 2 children until they start school
16:43 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola im waiting for trinque to show up ; won't be very long.
16:44 mircea_popescu lauren22 is it fun ?
16:44 lauren22 Homemaker I suppose
16:44 mircea_popescu imagine, if you only had 100`000 more pairs of tits you could write cryptographic client-server protocols.
16:44 mircea_popescu and we'd call you shiva
16:45 lauren22 Lol
16:45 lauren22 How would that work?
16:45 mircea_popescu well that we haven't figured out yet!
16:46 lauren22 Cloudflare & lava lamps? Live in the flesh?
16:47 mircea_popescu zx2c4 i'm sorry, i got confused. " this scandal is why socrates didn't even fucking want plato's disgusting silver. and now think -- that for his great merits, socrates was in fact given by the city "2000 btc"" is what i meant.
16:47 mircea_popescu lauren22 why lava lamps ?
16:48 lauren22 Have you not seen how cloudflare does it?
16:48 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
16:48 lauren22 Lavalamps
16:48 mircea_popescu now modesty aside, considering i've seen your tits : what DO you do with yourself ?
16:49 lauren22 Heh, do in what sense?
16:49 mircea_popescu well, in the sense of, do you bash ? do you c ? do you ada ? do you what ?
16:49 trinque so, the girls are bitching they don't have a balance, after having run withdrawal requests, or what?
16:49 mircea_popescu trinque i sent payments they didn't have keys yet, i don't want to resent lest it ends up doublespent.
16:49 mircea_popescu unless you say to.
16:50 lauren22 Oh, I started in CS, did not finish though.
16:50 trinque nothing happens if they weren't registered
16:50 mircea_popescu lauren22 so how do you know cloudflare is a joke ?
16:50 mircea_popescu trinque resend then ?
16:50 lauren22 Youtube
16:50 trinque sure, if bot says nothing, bot did nothing
16:50 lauren22 Video, one magazine did a piece about it
16:50 mircea_popescu good for you.
16:50 mircea_popescu !!pay thatbitchlola
16:50 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Vvgzj/?raw=true
16:51 mircea_popescu !!pay thatbitchlola 0.02
16:51 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fec4q/?raw=true
16:51 mircea_popescu !!pay SluttyDiamond 0.02
16:51 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4EFdz/?raw=true
16:52 mircea_popescu lauren22 would you like to learn to computer ?
16:52 lauren22 Mobile, maybe.
16:52 mircea_popescu why mobile ?
16:52 lauren22 More utility for most
16:52 mircea_popescu ugh
16:52 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798463 << why don't you do some actual work, then
16:52 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 20:35 douchebag: hey mircea_popescu do I get 0.01 for finding a flaw with deedbot again :D
16:52 lauren22 Everyone has a computer in pocket/purse
16:53 mircea_popescu why not program ticks then ?
16:53 mircea_popescu most herbivores have a bunch.
16:53 trinque douchebag: and when you bring these chicks in here, tell them A) register, B) don't expect trinque hops off what he was doing to immediately cut txn for their precious cuntlet C) once they withdraw, balance is 0 again, because duh
16:53 lauren22 I wonder how laptop sales have done since modern phones, many friends don't even own laptop anymore.
16:53 lauren22 iPad/iPhone/Android
16:54 mircea_popescu lauren22 pretty much everyone here uses desktops and rackables only. or almost.
16:54 douchebag trinque: I'll do actual work once I have a machine that can be on 24/7
16:54 * trinque checks printer, holy fuck, lol
16:54 mircea_popescu lmao.
16:55 mircea_popescu how's the sluttest coming along ?
16:55 mircea_popescu im sorry, i mean stresstest.
16:55 trinque goin great!
16:55 mircea_popescu groin great ?
16:55 lauren22 You all married/kids?
16:55 trinque lol
16:56 mircea_popescu !!up lauren22
16:56 deedbot lauren22 voiced for 30 minutes.
16:57 mircea_popescu lauren22 ben_vulpes has a coupla, the other married guy left ; i keep slavegirls, most everyone else is vaguer about it.
16:57 lauren22 Do you want a large family?
16:57 mircea_popescu ah, diana_coman has one too.
16:57 mircea_popescu lauren22 as long as i choose it, yes.
16:58 lauren22 Yes, not worth getting trapped in a bad relationship over kid
16:58 mircea_popescu no, that's not what i mean. i mean i don't want to play genitorial roulette, i'd rather choose the new members of this family myself.
16:58 lauren22 Ahh, genetic selection?
16:58 mircea_popescu see http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ ; it's expounded
16:59 lauren22 Eugenics ?
16:59 mircea_popescu nah.
16:59 mircea_popescu eugenics is dumb.
17:00 lauren22 I have only heard it referenced with Hitler stuff mostly.
17:01 mircea_popescu eugenics is the proposition that you can pick good genotypes on the basis of fenotypic cues. this is nonsense, as the genotype is way way deeper than the fenotype. see also http://trilema.com/2015/the-genetics-of-intelligence/ for a broader discussion.
17:02 lauren22 I remember the beans from elementary school somewhat
17:08 * danielpbarron has no wives and no kids
17:08 mircea_popescu and no problems ?
17:09 danielpbarron doing alright
17:12 mircea_popescu !!up ErisMoon
17:12 deedbot ErisMoon voiced for 30 minutes.
17:13 ErisMoon I'm here to show tits
17:14 douchebag im still getting her gpg setup, so obv don't pay her until after she gets that all registered
17:14 douchebag but she's ready
17:15 mircea_popescu ErisMoon a3a128e3 ; you got half hour.
17:16 mircea_popescu will the universe run out of tits before mp runs out of bits ; or will mp run out of bits before the universe runs out of tits ? THE QUESTIONS OF OUR TIME
17:17 ErisMoon !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/glz7g/?raw=true
17:17 deedbot FB73E512AEAE6853CA0534A84C1A2805CDEBA21C registered as ErisMoon.
17:18 ErisMoon okay no problemo
17:24 ErisMoon https://i.imgur.com/yboOELF.jpg
17:24 ErisMoon enjoy
17:29 ErisMoon mircea_popescu is this good?
17:35 douchebag That was awfully quick, nice job!
17:35 mircea_popescu tis fine
17:35 mircea_popescu !!pay ErisMoon 0.02
17:35 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aRNK4/?raw=true
17:36 mircea_popescu so what's eris moon come from ?
17:36 mircea_popescu !!up jossi
17:36 deedbot jossi voiced for 30 minutes.
17:37 jossi boob :)
17:37 mircea_popescu lol
17:37 mircea_popescu jossi 128f55d7 ; you got halfhour.
17:41 mircea_popescu !!up Hobbyboycg
17:41 deedbot Hobbyboycg voiced for 30 minutes.
17:54 jossi https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ud3O3Yko/image.jpg
17:55 mircea_popescu !!pay jossi 0.02
17:55 mircea_popescu !!key jossi
17:55 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/A7275AB459A14E19FCDDD310465F4E68004047DE.asc
17:55 jossi :)
17:56 mircea_popescu jossi that's a nice interior, are you like rich ?
17:56 jossi boutique
17:56 mircea_popescu ah, you work there ?
17:56 jossi we sell to the rich, im not rich :(
17:57 trinque eh mircea_popescu internet just went out where the wallet box is located.
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17:57 mircea_popescu lol. so next time rich dood walks in, be all like "0.11 btc for this bed as it is, sir ; or 0.20 as a package deal, with me in it"
17:57 trinque ping you when it's back up
17:57 mircea_popescu trinque ty
17:57 mircea_popescu jossi slight delay apparently.
17:57 jossi mircea_popescu: its a lot of baby stuff unfortunately lol
17:57 mircea_popescu do you also go to school ?
17:58 jossi Would be pretty awkward
17:58 jossi I did for fashion
17:58 jossi Well started
17:58 mircea_popescu didn't pan out ?
17:58 jossi :x
17:58 mircea_popescu aww!
17:58 mircea_popescu say, do you have any friends that draw well ?
17:58 jossi I have 2 years left
17:59 jossi I did in school, but not currently
17:59 mircea_popescu aha.
17:59 jossi Tell me about you
17:59 mircea_popescu what would you like to know ?
18:00 jossi Hm
18:00 jossi What is mircea_popescu ? of what origin?
18:00 mircea_popescu the name is romanian.
18:00 jossi The name itself
18:00 jossi Ah Romanian women, you must be in heaven.
18:01 mircea_popescu i live in costa rica.
18:01 mircea_popescu but amusingly enough, you look pretty romanian yourself. where'you from ?
18:01 jossi Every Roma girl I've known has been super good looking somehow
18:02 jossi Ukrainian and French
18:02 mircea_popescu and do you live in ukraina or france ?
18:02 jossi Oh no, just linage
18:03 jossi Live in NYC
18:03 mircea_popescu from what i hear ukraina sucks these days. how's nyc ?
18:03 jossi It has its nice areas, but you have to really like city life.
18:03 mircea_popescu what's city life like these days ?
18:03 jossi I wouldn't mind a more suburban area
18:03 jossi Police, everywhere
18:03 mircea_popescu heh
18:04 jossi Trump had the city messed up for quite a bit too
18:04 jossi With the extra patrolmen and blockades, but mostly done now
18:05 mircea_popescu yeah, i can't imagine how i'd put up with the nonsense.
18:05 jossi Well, mostly wife's fault
18:05 mircea_popescu here, the police are lovely chaps. mostly give out directions.
18:05 jossi Poor Melania seems pretty sad looking lately
18:06 mircea_popescu you figure old man trump's penis pump finally gave up the ghost ?
18:06 jossi HAH!
18:06 jossi I suspect he only works with the right cocktail of pills in him lol
18:06 mircea_popescu you just said cock ?!
18:07 mircea_popescu !!up jossi
18:07 deedbot jossi voiced for 30 minutes.
18:07 jossi I see what you did there lol
18:07 jossi But I don't want to judge the man
18:07 thatbitchlola wait so
18:07 mircea_popescu !!rate jossi 1 ukrainian-french girl working for the rich of nyc. wiwa la rebolucion!
18:07 jossi If he likes cock, *shrug*
18:07 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NXa7h/?raw=true
18:07 thatbitchlola when is my bitcoin going to appear in my wallet
18:07 thatbitchlola if it went offline
18:08 mircea_popescu thatbitchlola today or tomorrow. something like trhat.
18:08 thatbitchlola okay it said after i did everything
18:08 thatbitchlola 0.02 will be sent to my address
18:08 thatbitchlola after going through the process
18:08 mircea_popescu cool. takes 24h or elss.
18:09 thatbitchlola oki!
18:09 mircea_popescu jossi so other than boutique and not going to school anymore, what do you do ?
18:09 jossi This pays well, not the most stimulating job but gives me time to do other things
18:09 mircea_popescu like ?
18:10 jossi Mostly browse reddit and watch youtube lol
18:10 mircea_popescu o hey, check it out zx2c4 ! leisure works!
18:10 mircea_popescu that poor guy. little did he know...
18:10 jossi Heh whats the story there?
18:10 mircea_popescu jossi http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798480
18:10 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 20:37 zx2c4: i'm not saying everyone with leisure _does_ do something worthwhile with it. but you cant deny that leisure is in many cases a necessary precondition for many great aspects of civilization
18:11 mircea_popescu you can follow the log on the website, if you click the link
18:12 jossi Oh, I am one that doesn't do the worth while stuff :o
18:12 mircea_popescu why not ?
18:13 jossi Good question
18:13 jossi Not found my "thing" yet
18:13 mircea_popescu why thank you. and the good answer ?
18:13 mircea_popescu mh. what do you mean "your thing"
18:14 jossi Something that I enjoy and is stimulating & enriches
18:14 mircea_popescu that must suck.
18:15 * mircea_popescu shall bbs.
18:15 trinque got ya thatbitchlola; going to be moving the wallet to pizarro hosting soon as I can.
18:16 jossi trinque: I may have issue, deedbot not responding
18:17 trinque jossi: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798615
18:17 a111 Logged on 2018-04-13 21:57 trinque: eh mircea_popescu internet just went out where the wallet box is located.
18:18 trinque gonna have to wait until that box comes back.
18:18 jossi Ah, Got you
18:18 trinque transparent ploy to get you to hang out with us longer, eh?
18:19 jossi Lol
18:19 jossi Tell me about this place, if you had to summarize in a sentence or 2
18:19 jossi Elevator pitch
18:25 douchebag hey trinque but the transactions that already got processed and everything
18:25 douchebag and are just waiting for manual processing
18:25 douchebag you got them already?
18:26 trinque yeah, everything that gave a response to somebody got through; no worries
18:26 trinque just dealing with shitty internets for the next howeverlong
18:27 douchebag alright, when do you think you'll get to processing them
18:28 mircea_popescu jossi do you see the topic ?
18:29 trinque I was gonna link http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/
18:32 mircea_popescu also works.
18:32 mircea_popescu !!help
18:32 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
18:36 shinohai elevator pitch lol
18:36 * shinohai is off to have ice cream and brandy for birthday
18:37 mircea_popescu happy bday
18:37 mircea_popescu !!up jossi
18:37 deedbot jossi voiced for 30 minutes.
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18:55 hanbot http://thewhet.net << lastest post (mod_rewrite ergo links not yet live, or i'd link y'all directly) is mp-wp_genesis. esthlos and anyone else who was waiting on this is encouraged to test it out --setting up a test blog-within-a-blog is gonna be a royal pita and cause yet further delays, so please do try it out, lemme know how it goes.
18:57 ben_vulpes nifty hanbot
18:57 ben_vulpes looking forward to giving it a crack myself
~ 29 minutes ~
19:27 mircea_popescu jossi to voice yourself, say !!up to deedbot in a pm and then !!v the string it gives you (decrypt its message)
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19:48 * mircea_popescu takes advantage of a momentary lull to update the titpost lol
19:51 esthlos nice hanbot, will play around and get back to you on Sunday
19:51 esthlos !!key hanbot
19:51 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/EA0FAD90985B3025576A5061454B0FC0BC07B87E.asc
19:51 hanbot gl!
19:52 shinohai http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ <<< 404
19:53 shinohai oh i found it nm
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20:24 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ << Maybe the people and society section needs updating? Maybe it doesn't? Glories of no formal surveys!
20:35 mircea_popescu it's the way of cia factbooks to be half a decade out of date.
20:35 mircea_popescu "these facts were factual at some point"
20:36 BingoBoingo Ambiguity ftw!
20:50 douchebag hey trinque
20:50 douchebag I have some girls who are gonna wanna show tits tomorrow
20:50 douchebag will the bot be back up and working by then?
20:55 trinque most likely yes. there's an ISP outage.
20:56 trinque oughta be back on later today, but the ministry of comcast, who knows
20:56 trinque relatedly, I'm going to instate a withdrawal fee. will decide what that is later
20:57 trinque if I'm moving this from a "hey use my airgap system for cheap" to "high throughput wallet system" it's going to pay for itself
20:57 mircea_popescu trinque charge whatever the network fee is and there you go.
21:01 trinque still doesn't really pay for me cutting txn; obviously the ideal is I cut txn to refill a hot wallet, bot can use up to hot wallet balance without operator interaction.
21:01 trinque since I am unwilling to bail the thing out if the hotwallet piggy is popped, I have been reluctant to do that.
21:01 mircea_popescu at this phase the incentive should still principally be to streamline things.
21:02 trinque douchebag: asking you to review trb's deps wasn't idly selected
21:02 mircea_popescu trinque how much does it need to be ? so far < 1 btc per day or so neh ?
21:02 trinque yeah, but I'm not extending people trb+linux+amd64 insurance
21:03 mircea_popescu what do you evaluate the odds of it getting popped at ?
21:03 mircea_popescu ~ example of question to be answered correctly above ~
21:04 trinque really depends on whether it's a political or economic reason for attack.
21:05 trinque sub BTC piggy isn't worth that much, but "lul popped republican wallet operator" is
21:06 mircea_popescu i... guess.
21:06 mircea_popescu contrariwise though, there's not that much per-tx cost the system can bear.
21:07 mircea_popescu i can't imagine half dozen tx/day sorta debit can in any meaningful sense "pay for itself".
21:08 mircea_popescu (consider that these are uncharacteristically generious txn, most of the world still operates on the 19.95 walmart standard.)
21:09 trinque txn fees on my recent ones have been something like 0.00001, at the low end
21:09 mircea_popescu that's pretty good.
21:10 mircea_popescu kinda how my reasoning went, "he's pretty good at getting tx fees optimized, chances are users won't even notice they're paying, when comparing with $average-webservice."
21:14 * trinque checks date.
21:14 mircea_popescu it's friday, april 13th
21:14 trinque you know the hard drive on the box cutting txn died too, this week?
21:14 trinque dundundun
21:14 mircea_popescu lol.
21:16 mircea_popescu trinque anyway, one reasonable measure to cost control is to do all txn once a day, every day. ish.
21:16 mircea_popescu that way a) you get automated txn bundling, reducing fees and b) you don't have to keep doing it.
21:17 trinque that's about what I've been doing
21:17 mircea_popescu you ~could~ add a deedbot command like !!pending which'd list all pending items and the estimated next send ("Next tx push on Fri, Apr 14 at 8:14 pm -- in 25hours). gives people something to do with their time.
21:17 trinque isn't always going to be the case that I'm next to the machine at the same time
21:18 mircea_popescu you just update a field with "next tx".
21:18 trinque but sure, thing could say "estimated dispatch $time"
21:18 trinque yep
21:18 mircea_popescu generally should be able to guess at the time you'd do it today what time'd be convenient tomorrow sorta deal
21:19 mircea_popescu but, to be plain, it is a lot of work, and very useful, and very finnicky / highly qualified / high responsibility. so absolutely you should make bank for doing it.
21:20 mircea_popescu problem with it is that such a thing only pays after getting large enough.
21:20 trinque very true.
21:21 trinque I'd actually like to find a path to the hot wallet sooner than later, for reasons of getting large enough
21:21 mircea_popescu kinda the dilemma of "democratic society" aka "people have rights / are best judges of how to deploy their own resources" etc. you end up with the walmart world and either you chase the britney spears fanbase or else can't cover costs.
21:21 trinque probably just going to set a ceiling on it, and grow the ceiling over time
21:21 trinque let whatever comes in as revenue trickle over into a rainy day fund if a wallet gets popped
21:22 mircea_popescu trinque the line i was going on with the "what odds do you give" is that CDB is indelible from the book, stays there in red. cost of carry of capital, goods or otherwise, and so on.
21:22 mircea_popescu you're stuck investing $hotwallet-size * $failure-odds into the business that it could be, like it or not. just like your time.
21:23 mircea_popescu now, i am in the fortunate position of having valuable experience : bitbet's hotwallet was 1btc ; and it was never popped.
21:24 mircea_popescu (1 btc worth, it was actually 10, but they came to about 5-10k or such)
21:24 trinque that's good to know.
21:24 mircea_popescu now, kako for all his weird was certainly technically competent, so it's not the case that "there lay a trb in the rain".
21:25 mircea_popescu but i don't judge you all that dizzy, either.
21:25 douchebag trinque: In regards to trb deps
21:25 douchebag I'm definitely going to look into them
21:25 douchebag and I have some friends really big into RE who are going to be helping
21:25 trinque mircea_popescu: just trying to frontload the decisions so I'm not on my ear when somethign raises its head.
21:25 douchebag one is ex-military and worked on reverse engineering enemy weapons ect...
21:26 mircea_popescu trinque quite sensible.
21:26 trinque I've handled orders of magnitude more bezzlebucks elsewhere and yet this obviously, I care a great deal more about.
21:26 trinque never bitten on either side, but want it kept that way
21:26 trinque also there's the radiation damage of the former screaming never again while working on the latter
21:26 douchebag I just want to have a dedicated box to review these on, and as mircea_popescu mentioned I'll be sent a server
21:26 douchebag to install this stuff on
21:26 trinque I think you are right, and I'll just consider this an investment in the thing's growth
21:27 mircea_popescu trinque you might be overdramatizing ; what, you think i've never lost a team ? what am i, made of pure energy ? shit happens ; gotta have plans in place and move on.
21:27 mircea_popescu douchebag you're getting it, you're getting it.
21:29 trinque alright douchebag, your flood of titties made me agree to a hotwallet
21:30 mircea_popescu truth be told it was mostly ckeen
21:30 mircea_popescu what happened to him lol!
21:30 trinque ah yeah, was wasn't it
21:30 trinque at any rate I approve of this engineering process
21:31 mircea_popescu douchebag are you actually doing skag btw ?
21:31 * trinque will be back in about an hour, perhaps the idiot ISP will be back by then.
21:35 mircea_popescu another obvious angle here being, hey ben_vulpes mod6, considering the very useful and important work trinque's doing, imo best illustrated by http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-12#1797663 is there any chance he'd get a one time grant from tbf ?
21:35 a111 Logged on 2018-04-12 18:58 mircea_popescu: avgjoe it's exactly equivalent to "segwit" except much less expensive.
21:35 ben_vulpes for teh cbd?
21:36 ben_vulpes cdb*
21:38 mod6 I'd be happy to hear proposls, indeed!
21:41 mod6 Speaking of which, ben_vulpes, let me know what you think, but to help keep track of these grants, I think the applicants for a Foundation grant, should write up a small document outlining: 1) How much they are requesting, 2) What the intended purpose is for the grant, 3) The Duration (if any, i.e. one year, or one-time, etc), 4) The current block height / date. 5) Signed with WoT Key.
21:41 mod6 Upon approval these can be deeded so we can keep track. I'm starting to have a hard time remembering them all!
21:41 mod6 :D
21:41 mircea_popescu well, the idea is that indeed he's on the hook, for a particular type of cost. obviously writing code, reviewing code, testing things, design, graphic or systems, all sorts of things are useful and valuable, and they take people's time. if you spend an hour reading through patches you can't spend that hour petting your dog/kitten/kid whatever.
21:42 mircea_popescu nevertheless, you know aforehand, when you sit down to read through a patch, that you're gonna spend so long with it, and you'll stop when you stop.
21:42 mircea_popescu whereas this, it's more a case of carrying a knife up your ass. it decides when and what.
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21:43 mircea_popescu i dunno if i'm making any sense. am i ?
21:44 mod6 I view his work on deedbot & wallet as highly-necessary and critical. So you kinda read my mind when you asked us above.
21:44 mircea_popescu specifically being able to say, "oh, yeah, segwit, whatever, the power ranger's version of deedbot's !!pay, right ?" is a tmsr-wide benefit.
21:44 mod6 You're totally making sense. It could be a reoccuring grant; needs to be re-newed yearly (or some interval). I'm not in the best position to have an idea as to what is a sensible amount for the interval.
21:45 mircea_popescu i'm guessing if it covers his original hotwallet it's all roses.
21:46 mircea_popescu if he doesn't get popped, it needs no renewal, it's permanent. and if he does... well...
21:47 mod6 My initial thought was that the Foundation would say, offer a one time engineering fee of 1 BTC. And then also provide insurance for the hot wallet to the tune of say, 1 BTC.
21:48 mod6 Maybe that's not as reasonable as what you're suggesting though -- a reoccuring grant.
21:48 mircea_popescu just give him a bitcoin to seed his hotwallet, and call it a day.
21:48 mod6 I'd be fine with that. I'd even go a bit further and throw in some extra funding for the development, historical and forward.
21:49 mircea_popescu if he manages to lose it we can have words about maybe another one ; but it'd better not be this year.
21:50 mircea_popescu mod6 you can't afford to pay for development. i appreciate the sentiment, and i'm not saying his work is negligible, but if you count all the IMMENSE amount of devwork the republic has produced, however you add it up you'll either a) be on the hook for more than the foundation has, significantly more, or else b) you'll be stuck taking lowball to the level of insulting people.
21:50 mircea_popescu neither's a good outcome.
21:50 mod6 Aha, was thinking that part was a one time thing, The Foundation would indeed run out of money in short order.
21:51 mod6 Anyway, ok. I'm happy to approve seeding the hot-wallet.
21:51 mod6 ben_vulpes: Thoughts?
21:54 ben_vulpes 1 btc sounds like it would insure the hotwallet for quite some time, sounds neat but let me think about it
21:55 mod6 Cool.
21:59 ben_vulpes trinque: rang, asked me to pass on that a) he doesn't need help insuring the hotwallet, and that b) he's thinking really hard about how much of linux and the rest of the stack to insure on his own back, and the moral hazard of doing so
22:00 ben_vulpes (look gossipd works, asciilifeform can take a nap)
22:02 ben_vulpes thoughts topmost on my stack (after apache arcana) are about the implications of the foundation backing the 'tbtf' initiatives. i know that someone must, but going from a rate of zero in however many years to two in two quarters is worth pausing and thinking for.
22:07 mod6 Not as much ``tbtf initiatives'' as it is just the larger Republic, neh?
22:08 mod6 Anyway, can think on it.
22:08 ben_vulpes 'too big to fail' i mean
22:08 mod6 Oh, i see.
22:09 ben_vulpes i want to read what trinque has to say as well
22:09 mod6 No worries, no rush.
22:13 trinque mircea_popescu: wallet is back online
22:16 trinque ben_vulpes: that's an accurate rendering of my opinion. I think mircea_popescu was correct in that there's an unavoidable cost of doing business of a startup wallet service.
22:17 trinque element of this http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686516 every time one thinks about running a serious service on the modern shitpile
22:17 a111 Logged on 2017-07-19 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying the pretense of statics to a dynamic situation. trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents. they should have taken care that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able to move. they did not, and derelict in their first and practically speaking on
22:20 trinque I think a 1BTC ceiling would be a satisfactory tolerance for loss from the hot wallet, which I would be able to eat. which is not a promise to eat the thing's losses endlessly either, but on the airgap-wallet side I have enough confidence in the setup that my tolerance is higher.
22:26 mod6 I'm fine with this if you are. Certainly wern't trying to force anything on you by any means.
22:32 trinque naw, it's a compliment that you'd consider doing that.
22:32 mod6 o7
22:43 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1798822 << I lol'd
22:43 a111 Logged on 2018-04-14 01:42 mircea_popescu: whereas this, it's more a case of carrying a knife up your ass. it decides when and what.
22:47 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the reasoning wasn't tbtf, but rather community-benefit terrible-cost-structure
22:49 mircea_popescu trinque that works also, keeps things cleaner in a sense.
22:50 mircea_popescu now whom didn't i pay here
22:50 mircea_popescu !!pay jossi 0.02
22:50 mircea_popescu !!up jossi
22:50 deedbot jossi voiced for 30 minutes.
22:50 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VVCEG/?raw=true
22:51 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes moreover, tbf involvement with pizarro was an investment, not a grant. it got equity didn't it.
22:59 mircea_popescu or is this your discreet way of proposing pizarro's bust :D
~ 26 minutes ~
23:26 douchebag yo mp
23:26 douchebag you on?
23:26 douchebag mircea_popescu
23:35 mircea_popescu yeah.
~ 19 minutes ~
23:54 ben_vulpes wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fpizarro.danielpbarron.com%2Fwp-admin%2Findex.php << hue, nono
23:55 douchebag okay
23:55 douchebag ill get her setup rn
23:56 ben_vulpes pff
23:56 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-14#334157 << was the link i meant to paste
23:56 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-04-14 02:49 mircea_popescu: or is this your discreet way of proposing pizarro's bust :D
23:56 mircea_popescu aok
23:56 mircea_popescu gotta watch what you say, teh investors are eager to misinterpret!
23:57 ben_vulpes who isn't isweatergod
23:58 trinque douchebag: how many you got, and I'll crack this megawad off before bed
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