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00:17 lobbes Archive PSA: Semi-automatic archiving has resumed via my "manual" pulling of the crank at irregular intervals as a temporary "stop gap" solution. Fully automatic archiving to resume once I plug my security holes and build a sane parser for urls
00:18 mircea_popescu lol so in the end ns1/ns2.qntra.net are the pizarro nameservers ?
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00:30 mircea_popescu also perhaps of some interest : http://gustaf.thorslund.org/src/allegra/doc/allegra.html (ada irc bot ; uses postrgres-ada)
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08:29 mircea_popescu ^ rfc.
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08:30 mircea_popescu ah i guess that didn't get logged. here :
08:30 mircea_popescu * mircea_popescu has changed the topic to: You have reached the public forum of The Most Serene Republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the creation of a safe space for the elites to productively defect to, leaving the pantsuit stranded behind. If you'd like to help see http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ . This channel is logged.
08:38 mircea_popescu hey douchebag , here4's some lulz for you : https://wuphysicians.wustl.edu/DesktopModules/Blog/API/RSS/Get
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09:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is yer blog down ?
09:46 BingoBoingo It appears to be. Looking into it
09:58 BingoBoingo Aite, it is finding its way back
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10:33 asciilifeform in other lulz, 3 nukefest publicalert tests within 1 hr in washingtonistan
10:34 mircea_popescu aww
10:34 asciilifeform ( they show up via pnoje )
10:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pretty great new subjline imho
10:35 mircea_popescu cool deal
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10:58 lobbes Incidentally, anyone remember the term "freedom fighter"? I.e. "terrorist that is aligned with the Empire". Almost never heard in Incan media anymore it seems
11:03 mircea_popescu by now too dangerous.
11:04 mircea_popescu back in the 90s inca had a brief momentary delusion of security, in the vein of http://trilema.com/2016/consumerism-is-not-the-answer-though-it-will-put-you-to-sleep-or-american-history-x/
11:08 asciilifeform lobbes: got replaced in the Official fishwraps with 'moderate rebels' (tm)(r)
11:11 mircea_popescu the moderate rebels of syria, shooting rockets at the elected government. an' the moderate rebels of ukraina, shooting rockets at civillian airplanes.
11:15 mircea_popescu btw asciilifeform ever rotaku'd http://trilema.com/2012/afaceri-particulare/ ? stumbled on it earlier it's fucking hysterical.
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11:40 * asciilifeform reads..
11:41 lobbes Ah yes, "moderate rebels". Man, it'd be lulzy to have a timeline of various fishwrap lifecycles. E.g. "hole in ozone layer" > "global warming" > "climate change"
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12:16 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/gun-free-londons-murder-rate-passes-new-york-and-reaches-for-detroit/ << Qntra - Gun Free London's Murder Rate Passes New York And Reaches For Detroit
12:21 ben_vulpes !!key lobbes
12:21 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/3320BCA7825525AD077203C331F36D29A4D93652.asc
12:24 ben_vulpes !!v F5FE66C596E8C7AFE15FBF5B58BBCE37DF5AFEAD3D435D615526819CCB2C880D
12:25 deedbot ben_vulpes paid trinque invoice 4
12:28 ben_vulpes douchebag: oh candi_lustt is eminently poppable btw, wonder if you can figure out how to
12:28 ben_vulpes don't want to distract you from your trinquechores tho
12:30 trinque ty ben_vulpes
12:30 ben_vulpes and yourself sir
12:31 * trinque wonders if douchebag realizes what useful work it'd be, to know how easily trb nodes can be popped, given that the wallet will of course have to be sitting right there, with same permissions, on same box, and etc
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12:31 trinque (and obviously, ~I do not use the trb wallet~)
12:32 ave1 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793119, with this script http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-a-signature/ it is possible to build a cross compiler for aarch64, I will try to use this cross-compiler to then create a native compiler.
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12:32 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 03:17 asciilifeform: but annoying that nobody seems to have ever published one or mentioned the existence.
12:33 asciilifeform ave1: i did one for mips ( never properly tested tho ) a few yrs back
12:33 asciilifeform ave1: the surprising bit is the total absence of any mention of a working gnat for arm64 ( despite it being a quite common chip for several yrs )
12:36 asciilifeform trinque: theoretically 'every private has a marshal's baton in his knapsack', but realistically it is not esp. likely that 'popping trb' had to wait for this 1 d00d to turn 19 or what he was.
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12:36 asciilifeform considering the very tangible win from any such thing, going back years
12:36 trinque eh
12:37 trinque we stopped on a perfect copy of openssl did we?
12:37 asciilifeform 'not remotely poppable' != 'perfect'
12:39 asciilifeform fwiw it dun hurt to try. ftr, asciilifeform's orig interest in reading the src, long before even running into mircea_popescu et al , was precisely this.
12:45 asciilifeform !!up diana_coman_away
12:45 deedbot diana_coman_away voiced for 30 minutes.
12:46 diana_coman_away thanks! slowly eating logs here
12:52 ave1 asciilifeform, I can only find gnats for ubuntu/debian and alpine linux. Also GNAT pro seems to support arm64.
12:57 ave1 btw, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792937, how do you notice something like that?
12:57 a111 Logged on 2018-04-04 19:52 asciilifeform: meanwhile on the chinesium front, asciilifeform was pretty close to throwing out the 'rockchip' this morn., when saw that every few hrs it read-retries the sd flash. but apparently harmless eggog: comes from certain sad levelling firmwares , they cannot keep up with the host
12:58 asciilifeform ave1: it went into /var/log/messages
12:58 asciilifeform or do i misunderstand the q
13:01 asciilifeform ave1: we had just the other day a thread re 'gnat pro'. it's interesting, in principle, but i sure as fucking daylight ain't ever signing nonredistribution oaths for a compiler
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13:09 ave1 aha, I was wondering weather you noticed some led blinking, but log would do it
13:09 ave1 yes, me neither
13:12 asciilifeform ave1: nah , no led. log noise. and documented, apparently, issue , with some brands of sd, going back years
13:12 asciilifeform appears to be harmless, the retry-read always succeeds
13:16 asciilifeform at any rate, rockchip pilot-plant boxen will boot from sd and mount usb3 stick for root partition.
13:23 asciilifeform ave1: unrelatedly, iirc you're the one who was lucky winner of 1 phree FG ? didja get it yet ?
13:32 ave1 yes I was! and no nothing arrived yet...
13:32 asciilifeform went out on mar. the 22.
13:34 ave1 well shipping from US has taken anything from 1 to 4 weeks in the past
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13:55 asciilifeform ave1: then too soon to say that it was magicked away
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14:40 trinque asciilifeform: in general you're probably right, though in general not most are persistent enough to join the republic.
14:40 trinque gotta give the guy worthwhile targets to see
14:40 trinque ftr if the report is "trb's deps are not susceptible to any known RCE" that'd be a fine thing to see written up too
14:40 ben_vulpes today's marvelous self-licking ice-cream-cone: surgeon general suggests that everyone near to folks at risk for overdosing on fentanyl and friends carry naxalone. i for one can't wait to see what the new equilibrium intake rate is without mortality risk looming.
14:41 trinque and obviously that wouldn't be reason to develop a false sense of security either.
14:41 ben_vulpes "audits can only show presence of holes, never the absence" or how did it go
14:41 asciilifeform ^
14:45 trinque rce isn't the only thing that'd be interesting, even cpu bog-down or mem usage DoS would be relevant to staying at the front of the chain.
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14:46 asciilifeform it is a little bit funny to talk of bogdown and dos 'vulnerability' in a proggy that happily does o(n) operations at the request of allcomers
14:46 asciilifeform not to mention lets any and all-comers hog sockets for as long as they can come up with fresh ip
14:47 asciilifeform happily does ~by design~
14:48 trinque AIDS patient doesn't ignore fungus because AIDS, but on the contrary
14:48 trinque its also homework.
14:59 asciilifeform unrelatedly, trinque , ever looked into purging sslism from gentoo ? in particular the existence of /etc/ca-certificates.conf and its contents as a ~mandatory package, i find quite irritating
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15:01 asciilifeform ( or at the very least, if not purged, every proggy that attempts to lean on usg.pki-ism should generate a log event )
15:01 trinque just gotta mask it and weep, and kiss whatever wanted it goodbye
15:02 * trinque is on a box currently that's musl + libressl, but I don't know that it's much better
15:02 asciilifeform whole pkiism concept is deeply offensive from a republican pov.
15:02 trinque indeed it is
15:03 trinque -ssl hits some, other ebuilds (and this happens more by the day, on various) don't implement the use flag. "what, of course you want that!"
15:04 asciilifeform i can see an argument for retaining an ability to emulate a sslistic client, for http-fetching heathenware when absolutely must . but beyond this -- it Must Die
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15:04 * trinque has considered using the portage profile feature for this
15:05 asciilifeform in particular this thought in asciilifeform's head sprung from noticing a CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK='/etc/gentoo-release /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/ca-certificates.conf' in the default environment
15:05 trinque have a fascist profile that ideally becomes the only one, and perhaps another profile that's more lax, used for porting over things or w/e.
15:05 asciilifeform i.e. sslism is treated as 'special' and 'precious' evidently in >1 place
15:05 trinque but, if already saying we'll be curating ebuilds I don't see much of a point of the latter
15:06 asciilifeform ultimately ideal would be fully vtronic replacement for portage.
15:06 trinque and we have to eat all of portage, or we'll be in the position I was in when I handed current cuntoo script to diana_coman
15:06 trinque "oh sorry, outside world moved while we held still. build is now broke as a joke."
15:06 trinque this is the primary item on my workbench atm
15:07 asciilifeform well, not 'all of', but the closure-over-the-set of actually-used things
15:07 trinque "be responsible for everything considered republican portage"
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15:07 trinque yes not eat all existing ebuilds
15:07 asciilifeform right
15:07 asciilifeform seems like maybe ~150 packages are in practice needed for a Troo Workstation
15:07 trinque own distfiles server, etc
15:07 trinque aha
15:07 asciilifeform and the number can probably be reduced considerably
15:08 * trinque has a busybox userland-golf experiment on the workbench
15:08 asciilifeform good chunk of the installed packages on typical gentoo box is really liquishit
15:08 trinque though dunno if busybox counts, just giant wad of many utils.
15:08 trinque the appeal there is one upstream dependency vs various
15:09 asciilifeform i find busybox to be useful on ancient routers , pogo , & similar , but quite unusable as a unixutils substitute on actual workstation
15:09 asciilifeform it is not even remotely 100% compatible with classical bash etc
15:10 trinque the embedded constraint would, I'd wager, place a constraint on amount of shitgnomaticism to creep in.
15:11 trinque but probably yes, not compatible strictly with latest bash
15:11 asciilifeform imho the long-term answer is '3rd way' , i.e. all the crud i wrote in bash, python, etc over the years really oughta be in the hypothetical little-lisp-in-ada from old thread.
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15:11 asciilifeform ( and at future date then readily transposable to a sane, nonunixoid os )
15:11 trinque busybox default doesn't preclude there being a bash ebuild neh?
15:11 * trinque is taking "smallest possible bootable userland"
15:12 trinque *talking
15:12 asciilifeform sure. but a default that nobody uses in battlefield, is not much to brag about.
15:12 trinque fair point.
15:12 trinque I admittedly *don't* use bash in battlefield, but privately on the workbench
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15:12 asciilifeform iirc we even have somebody who lives in ksh.
15:12 asciilifeform ( or maybe i dreamed this. )
15:15 asciilifeform in other lulz, sbcl apparently mildly broken on arm64: builds 100% but then ' can't find core file at /usr/lib/sbcl//sbcl.core '
15:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793180 << i guess, yeah. kinda lotta work for little payoff though, more of stand-up comedy fare
15:15 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 15:41 lobbes: Ah yes, "moderate rebels". Man, it'd be lulzy to have a timeline of various fishwrap lifecycles. E.g. "hole in ozone layer" > "global warming" > "climate change"
15:15 asciilifeform ... unsurprising, because it lives in /usr/lib64
15:16 asciilifeform but the path is HARDCODED IN
15:16 asciilifeform because somebody got dropped as a child, evidently
15:16 asciilifeform and yes i'm aware that it can be fixed by setting an evir variable. but WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO
15:16 asciilifeform possibly phf knows who was responsible for this. i'd like for the name to enter the logs.
15:19 mod6 Berry McCockiner
15:20 asciilifeform whossat
15:20 mod6 made up name, say it out loud.
15:20 asciilifeform lol
15:26 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793190 << password is strong though.
15:26 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 16:31 trinque wonders if douchebag realizes what useful work it'd be, to know how easily trb nodes can be popped, given that the wallet will of course have to be sitting right there, with same permissions, on same box, and etc
15:26 mod6 in other lulz: http://archive.is/vU667
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15:28 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793192 << nice dood!
15:28 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 16:32 ave1: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793119, with this script http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-a-signature/ it is possible to build a cross compiler for aarch64, I will try to use this cross-compiler to then create a native compiler.
15:28 ben_vulpes feculent freight, not bad
15:29 mircea_popescu who the fuck used feculent in a sentence! i was just explaining it yest!
15:29 mircea_popescu fancy teh odds...
15:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793196 << yeah, just like it's not likely neptune had to wait for bouvard and everything else for keppler.
15:32 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 16:36 asciilifeform: trinque: theoretically 'every private has a marshal's baton in his knapsack', but realistically it is not esp. likely that 'popping trb' had to wait for this 1 d00d to turn 19 or what he was.
15:32 asciilifeform hey any time a kepler wants to walk in...
15:35 mircea_popescu it's also improbable you were ever born, so good thing you weren't...
15:35 mircea_popescu ?.?
15:35 asciilifeform lol
15:36 asciilifeform at any rate such probabilities and plausibilities only even in theory matter when a d00d walks in and 'hey i am such greatness'. if walks in with pill for rsa or whichever -- dun have to ask anyone to believe anyffin. or for that matter to walk in at a..
15:36 asciilifeform ll.
15:37 trinque eh you have no idea how to react to the young, no offense.
15:37 trinque young man says "I will fuck every woman alive" and this doesn't mean he's broken
15:37 asciilifeform i did not say 'broken'. but raw - yes.
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15:37 trinque sure
15:38 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793210 << why not ? great incentive for you to move outta usistan.
15:38 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 17:01 asciilifeform: ave1: we had just the other day a thread re 'gnat pro'. it's interesting, in principle, but i sure as fucking daylight ain't ever signing nonredistribution oaths for a compiler
15:38 asciilifeform it is quite impossible to learn anything nontrivial if labouring under ' i am a great master and who needs this book-larnin rubbish'
15:38 * trinque doesn't dispute
15:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: [insert traditional a:'i dun have a power source outside of usa reich' m:'but why not learn to eat sunlight and butterflies' thread here]
15:50 ben_vulpes https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/04/secret-service-warns-of-chip-card-scheme/ BingoBoingo ?
15:52 asciilifeform lol next krebs will ring the alarm re 'new, exciting' (... 200 yrs ago! but who needs this detail ) scam of lifting Official seals from paper with potato
15:53 trinque lol
15:54 asciilifeform worx great, btw
15:55 trinque asciilifeform, not just hacker, but timetraveling hacker!1!11
15:55 asciilifeform in other quasi-noose : asciilifeform currently taking suggestions re what proggies ought to live in a 'standard' arm-gentoo image that will be supplied to rockchip boxen subscribers
15:56 asciilifeform ( input from prospective users specifically invited; even if 'wish list' item, that currently dun have a reliable arm64 build )
15:57 asciilifeform for that matter, would also like to measure demand in l1/l2 for these, as a whole
15:58 asciilifeform though will add, unlike shared-hosting service, there is little to no practical barrier to leasing these out to heathens
15:58 asciilifeform (supposing coin-bearing heathens were to appear)
16:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform eh, what, walk me throiugh this. let's use lesswrong codex as a basis. so : 1. you are in the hospital for "maybe wanting to kill yourself", after having made ill advised 1970s comments to 2010s paki diversity-"doctor" ; 2. "I remember working with a doctor who wanted to discharge his patient to some kind of outpatient drug rehab. The patient refused to go, so the doctor wouldn’t discharge her, and they were i
16:04 mircea_popescu n a stalemate over it for weeks, and the whole time the patient was tearfully begging the doctor to release her. I cannot tell you how much willpower it took not to sneak into the patient’s room and yell at her “JUST AGREE TO GO TO THE REHAB AND THEN DON’T DO IT, YOU IDIOT”."
16:04 mircea_popescu 3. you... umm... publish it anyway.
16:04 mircea_popescu what now ?
16:07 mircea_popescu we have the perfect mechanism of antipantsuit publishing ; http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770196 . what's the "color of bits" pantsuit system supposed to do, get trinque to swear in court you sent it to him ?
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16:07 a111 Logged on 2018-01-13 16:14 mircea_popescu: and it's for me ; when in doubt you can always check whose key an encrypted item is encrypted to.
16:08 mircea_popescu or perhaps we get the monumental lulz of http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/ with its "1. I am a Special Agent (“SA”) of the United States Secret Service (“USSS”), and have been so employed for approximately three and one half years. In my experience totallies!"
16:11 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478250 << in other lulz, apparently scott alexander $item was actually well known ; what a fucking riot that yakkster mcyakkunson is, " most women might not bother trying to step down from there to men who radiate less kindness." hurr!
16:11 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 19:04 trinque: http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/06/polyamory-is-boring/#comment-13604 << yudkowski might be a cuck
16:12 mircea_popescu this is such a direct equivalent of yesterday's ballistic-gellatin wank it's starting to draw out a profile (for what i previously called the wikitard, but i guess lesswrong is just a particularily thick cloud of them) : asocial beta male that has managed to move the conceptual universe of cartoons into "real life" such as they live it.
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16:13 mircea_popescu seinfeld's superman comics and cereal eating habits meet the yudkowski "oh, on the basis of the behaviours of the three goats we have back at camp, women like dweebs" and the "lalala i can't hear you, us army bb gun is very efficient when fired at gelatin 5 feet away and the fact that you'll never get that close nor ever have to fight large blobs irl IS NOT IN MY FIELD OF VISION"
16:15 mircea_popescu then they believe (pretend to "think critically", but do no such thing, simply believe) rank nonsense like "global warming" because... THE MODEL!!! the model reminds them of the simplified characters in the manga they loved as children and the general deus-ex-machina atmosphere fits well with their only formative experiences.
16:15 mircea_popescu and so pantsuit science emerges naturally, out of a certain kind of child abuse ; it no longer needs agency for explaining its existence.
16:18 ben_vulpes mmm subject of science https://theconversation.com/decolonise-science-time-to-end-another-imperial-era-89189
16:18 trinque nb.jpg thread, wondering where http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478348 ever got off to
16:18 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 20:06 gabriel_laddel: you have no idea how much of a complete disaster my life is...
16:22 asciilifeform ave1: your gnat builder barfs 40 minutes in, incidentally, with the following death : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ftgUL/?raw=true ( last n lines )
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16:23 ben_vulpes careful trinque you'll wake him
16:23 ben_vulpes beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice
16:23 asciilifeform trinque: fulla gold, e.g. 'Yes, mathematics can be decolonised. Here’s how to begin'
16:24 asciilifeform by a 'Karin Brodie Professor of Education and Mathematics Education, University of the Witwatersrand' didjaknow.
16:25 ben_vulpes the science must fall video is epic, dood gets severely caned for daring to suggest that the notion a witch doctor can call lightning down upon ones enemis is not true
16:25 ben_vulpes "you must further decolonize yourself!"
16:25 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793333 << real life sadly is 'less real than cartoon', asciilifeform for instance is still waiting to be gassed for 'exporting' pgp somewhere during clinton reign, or for bolix warez, or for general unpatriotism, or jaywalking...
16:25 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 20:12 mircea_popescu: this is such a direct equivalent of yesterday's ballistic-gellatin wank it's starting to draw out a profile (for what i previously called the wikitard, but i guess lesswrong is just a particularily thick cloud of them) : asocial beta male that has managed to move the conceptual universe of cartoons into "real life" such as they live it.
16:26 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: quite relatedly, i had to calm a panicking millenial down recently "oh give over; the left is more interested in beating up on the right and vice versa than either are in the online shenanigans of a few crackpot bitcoin holders"
16:27 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793328 << traditionally $maxint soft is custom-doctored per licensee, making leaks obvious
16:27 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 20:07 mircea_popescu: we have the perfect mechanism of antipantsuit publishing ; http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770196 . what's the "color of bits" pantsuit system supposed to do, get trinque to swear in court you sent it to him ?
16:27 trinque asciilifeform: at what point does the cultural gap become so wide you're intelligible to the gassers?
16:27 trinque "sounds like nerds doing nerd shit"
16:27 asciilifeform unintelligible ?
16:27 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: you've never lost a gun either i imagine
16:28 asciilifeform prolly long ago. can't picture why else asciilifeform , mod6 , ben_vulpes , other nato inmates doing their treasonous thing here, are still alive
16:28 asciilifeform re trinque's q ^
16:28 ben_vulpes or excuse me, "had it stolen from my locked car!"
16:28 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i thought one was supposed to lose'em while fishing!11
16:29 ben_vulpes mildly less plausible, hunters are more conscientious, also tools of trade/hobby
16:29 ben_vulpes "am derp cityboy, got gun stoled from locked car in bad neighborhood"
16:29 trinque all anyone does today is larp, from chiraq to palestine
16:29 trinque get seen, put it on da insta
16:29 ben_vulpes trinque: "world star hip hop"
16:29 trinque see: stormer and their "brand"
16:30 asciilifeform over here in marylandistan that'd get you a good sentence + confiscations automagically -- no gun in car without note from hitler Officially permitted
16:30 trinque heh, while TX has an exemption in concealed carry *for* to/from vehicle, and in.
16:32 asciilifeform typical breakfast conv : pet:'why you still alive' a:'evidently my entire work to date not yet worth bullet'
16:32 * asciilifeform brb
16:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> trinque: fulla gold, e.g. 'Yes, mathematics can be decolonised. Here’s how to begin' <<< ye olde "e=mc^2 is a sexed equation" wank ?
16:43 mircea_popescu part of the problem with these mediocre but ambitious shitstains is that they're so repetitive.
16:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the left is actually cognitively incapable of representing tmsr, from my measurements. about as safe as rats in cretacic.
16:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform think it though though. "obvious" how ? to whom ? where ? why ?etc.
16:47 trinque I came in more or less ideologically amenable, and yet said "oh god, not a bunch of redpillers" and left, the first encounter.
16:47 trinque cultural incomprehensibility is a thing
16:48 trinque minor barfs such as douchebag's might just be the sound of purging, who knows til later
16:48 mircea_popescu trinque> all anyone does today is larp, from chiraq to palestine << word. and the larp that they do is always and very amusingly a sort of first-person-cool. i was explaining a coupla days ago the mechanics of "pantsuit uprising" and how firing a line would send the whole field of 'em packing to deeply disbelieving girly. she honestly thought that if i march a 100 strong regiment to the sider of a 100`000 strong "color revol
16:48 mircea_popescu ution", ready-arm-fire and there's a fresh set of 80 or so bodies, teh crowd will do something other than what it does when "omg there's a shooting". like i dunno, charge the firing squad with bare hands or other "why didn't the jews burn down auschwitz mommy ?"
16:49 mircea_popescu "because THEY BELONGED THERE, baby ; and they knew it."
16:50 mircea_popescu "but won't anyone charge ?" "of course some will" "so won't that rally the others ?" "no, very much the opposite -- in making plain the difference between actually being a hero and larping, it'll bring home to the idiots that they REALLY have no business being there."
16:50 mircea_popescu the faster the nutty dozen run for the bayonetts, the faster ^ 3 the pantsuit run for the hills.
16:51 * trinque tries hard to imagine "majority" revolution, fails. herd mechanics always on the other end of the pointy stick.
16:51 mircea_popescu yet that's what the "moderate rebels" are supposedly managing, "majority revolutions".
16:54 ben_vulpes "i mean didja ever read about how the khans army could kill entire cities, and the populations would stand in the fields weeping and waiting their turn?"
16:56 mircea_popescu this is because, you realise, "soldiering wasn't the job THEY HAD CHOSEN FOR THEMSELVES". because "they didn't give a damn about whatever political axe you have to grind, just wanted..."
16:56 mircea_popescu and so following. people with hallucinated options at the ready are ~ballistic gelatin.
16:56 mircea_popescu that they don't understand how anyone else might not be, and wtf "good fucking luck hitting ME with your piddly 30 gram bullets lmao" sort of sociopathy is this!!!1
16:57 mircea_popescu i fully expect, once it comes to geolocated rape and pillage, to hear a lot of "you're illegal!!11". just like before.
17:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793228 << it's certainly not the case there's nothing interesting to find digging. it may be premature, in his case, but w/e.
17:02 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 18:45 trinque: rce isn't the only thing that'd be interesting, even cpu bog-down or mem usage DoS would be relevant to staying at the front of the chain.
17:03 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793234 << me also. hurr-durr you will not have a usg-free computer socio-engineering bs.
17:03 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 18:59 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, trinque , ever looked into purging sslism from gentoo ? in particular the existence of /etc/ca-certificates.conf and its contents as a ~mandatory package, i find quite irritating
17:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793241 << i've been living for half a year now simply rejecting all websites what are https-only and implement idiotic "modern" ciphers. items such as github etc no longer load for me, and i tell you i don't particularly weep the demise of a bunch of retarded pantsuitsites.
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17:04 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 19:04 asciilifeform: i can see an argument for retaining an ability to emulate a sslistic client, for http-fetching heathenware when absolutely must . but beyond this -- it Must Die
17:04 mircea_popescu not anymore than myspace or hojournal or w/e.
17:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793252 << a good longer term goal, but don't sprain something lifting that.
17:06 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 19:07 trinque: "be responsible for everything considered republican portage"
17:06 trinque s'why I mention busybox later, might be only a handful of packages that get us to booted in userland
17:07 trinque from there, can consider *their* portage the "overlay", and can port things over as they come
17:07 * trinque has the busybox item coming together in a chroot, on the pizarro node
17:09 mircea_popescu nb
17:11 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793274 << i use it, principally to manage curl.
17:11 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 19:12 trinque: I admittedly *don't* use bash in battlefield, but privately on the workbench
17:14 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793307 << well fucking every woman alive with condom on seems a little deranged.
17:14 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 19:37 asciilifeform: i did not say 'broken'. but raw - yes.
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18:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793393 << a quite astonishing amount of proggy, incl. items that cannot be done without unless you can make yer own ic ( errything from the lattice 'ice' proggy, to device drivers for ~100% of extant iron ) is imprisoned in shithub. nao however once it is sprung from this jail -- it is sprung.
18:38 a111 Logged on 2018-04-05 21:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793241 << i've been living for half a year now simply rejecting all websites what are https-only and implement idiotic "modern" ciphers. items such as github etc no longer load for me, and i tell you i don't particularly weep the demise of a bunch of retarded pantsuitsites.
18:39 asciilifeform the 1 other httpsism i can think of that isn't escapable is www sites of iron-sellers. though for this one could use a dedicated toilet.
18:40 asciilifeform come to think of it, a little proxy box ( make out of ~anything, even pogo ) would handily do the job. think 'chinese firewall https stripper' for home lan.
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18:41 mircea_popescu i don't envy any man the miserable but required portions of his job.
18:41 mircea_popescu and very much yes.
18:41 * asciilifeform cleans honeywagen
18:42 asciilifeform usb3ization test of 'rockchip' in progress, incidentally.
~ 33 minutes ~
19:15 lobbes !!key ben_vulpes
19:15 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA.asc
~ 39 minutes ~
19:54 mircea_popescu "Robin Hanson is right that no-one wants to speak up for the low-status males for fear of being grouped with them. I for one feel compelled to make clear from the outset that I’m a *terribly* high status male who is *overwhelmed* with interest from women, and am only speaking up for those less fortunate than me out of the purest generosity of spirit" << this guy : https://mindsarentmagic.org/
19:54 mircea_popescu hoooooly shit is the wikitard "lesswrong" crowd the comedy goldmine of all tiem
19:55 mircea_popescu google cryptographer from london!
19:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: btw , d00d is a vintage lolcow, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1478076
19:55 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 18:18 asciilifeform: some derp named hanson was pushing a crackpottery called 'futarchy', where you have a bitbet-like item that is actually plugged into a robotic monarch that issues edicts
19:55 mircea_popescu i thought futa is how you say "cartoon transsexual"
19:56 asciilifeform ( he's, approx., a chowdhry . or what was that one called )
19:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i found this meaning out from mircea_popescu , believe or not. prior to that knew only from $d00d's crackpottery with 'future markets' (itself stolen from old man admiral poindexter iirc )
19:57 mircea_popescu aok
19:57 asciilifeform ( not to be confused with futures markets )
20:00 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/heres-what-polyamory-is-not/ << Trilema - Here's what "polyamory" is not :
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20:01 mircea_popescu basically this wikipedian wankster thing seems to be a major-ish neet subculture. evidently under the whole chems thing, or guns, or "baptist"ism / most other first echelon things. but perhaps large enough to make 2nd tier, with post-punk, petaism, and so forth. a sort of mirror-knitting subculture, i guess.
20:02 asciilifeform dunno that 'subculture' is the word. sorta like calling syphilis a subculture
20:02 mircea_popescu syphilis very much was a subculture.
20:03 asciilifeform then this also
20:03 mircea_popescu diseases are in fact the best framework for conceptualizing subcultures -- that's what they are, broken people. broken how is relatively uninteresting.
20:04 mircea_popescu but the girl who genuinely believes her little village is everything and being a dairy maid is the be all (great little novel about this, with nobleman who married dairy maid, ended up making the dutchess a... dairy) is not substantially different from the guy who thinks mercury salts will right him.
20:04 mircea_popescu they both have little rituals associated, consume information cooked a certain way FOR IT BEING THUS COOKED and not for other reasons, and so following.
20:05 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/05/4-months-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - 4 Months In Montevideo
20:06 mircea_popescu oh, oh, look, there's even a bit of mittelamerica in there! "I came home from my tour in the US Army in the Middle East. I have only been back two months. My wife and I have three children. We have been married for ten years. I came back and Sarah had changed. Didn’t want anything to do with me. This is typical for returning Veterans so I figured it would just take time. Fast forward to now, I just discovered, she has been
20:06 mircea_popescu recruited as a “unicorn” by a Neurologist at a hospital in town. She abandoned me and our middle child who has Autism. She took the youngest and oldest boy and they are considered now Mitch’s children. So, excuse me if I can’t be open minded enough to understand this. I don’t. It hurts incredibly bad and I don’t understand how a doctor, with a wife and six children, could steal my wife and try to take my children."
20:06 asciilifeform !#s dependopotamus
20:06 a111 20 results for "dependopotamus", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=dependopotamus
20:08 asciilifeform and wtf is to be 'recruited as unicorn'
20:22 asciilifeform in other noose, liftoff on rockchip-cum-usb3-ssd
20:22 asciilifeform ( boots from sd, mounts root on usb3 )
20:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "unicorn" in context is the traditional soubrette : young woman eager to [sexually, and otherwise] please both master and mistress.
20:28 asciilifeform aa
20:28 mircea_popescu supposedly these are rare. i imagine for the sort of dweebs that spew all this maculature they would be.
20:29 asciilifeform phunphakt for trinque : apparently something inside current-day portage re-package.mask's gcc <5 'for your own good' on every (?) --sync , leaving it to be unmasked manually.
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20:30 asciilifeform ye olde 'These old versions of toolchain packages (binutils, gcc, glibc) are no longer officially supported and are not suitable for general use. Using these packages can result in build failures (and possible breakage) for many packages, and may leave your system vulnerable to known security exploits' nonsense.
20:30 mircea_popescu you know, the "terribly high status male" in the googlvnoye upgradleniye lagerei.
20:32 mircea_popescu o look, the dgerard fellow also makes an appearance! lel.
20:32 mircea_popescu this whole thing's tiny, basically the wank of ~one campus.
20:34 asciilifeform https://mindsarentmagic.org/2016/07/18/expressing-computable-ordinals-as-programs << stolen , with 0 attribution, from chaitin
20:34 mircea_popescu i think they call this research.
20:34 asciilifeform ahahahayes
20:34 mircea_popescu it's really not anything but 15yo turning in wikipedia article.
20:34 asciilifeform 'EDIT 2017-10-28: DO NOT DO THIS! Dropbox have changed their API, and Netmemo has failed to update to use the new one. I emailed the developer and got no response. Don’t use Netmemo Plus. I want a button on my Android phone that drops voice notes into my GTD inbox.'
20:35 asciilifeform loox like a specimen of... homo kanzureicus
20:36 asciilifeform 'Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction. .... This book is essential reading for all thinking people. I’m not going to write a new review here—I think the existing reviews do it justice...' << bahahawat
20:36 mircea_popescu https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WX6kWkAKsESoD4yrf/misery-pits << o look who came back from the dead, also. chick famous for "i'll sign prenup to have all my kids paternity-checked because i'm just too much of a cum dumpster to know otherwise" / being the ~only sexually active female in this coven of "polyamory", absent since the last time we heard of this whole thing.
20:36 asciilifeform and of course 'Big life change ahead: in March, I, Jess, and our two cats will be renting out our London flat and moving to California’s San Francisco Bay Area for two years!'
20:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: oh hey it's the 'my cunt is offended and redpillists are hereby unofficially banned from the forum' critter
20:44 mircea_popescu sadly i'm too lazy to translate http://trilema.com/2010/familia-traditionala-versus-harem-studiu-comparativ/ ; but the comments are pretty riotous. sampler : "in closing, permit me to inform you that i've taken a shit into one of those cups you drink jeebus blood from, in some church somewhere, as well as washed my cock post-ejaculation in one of those water holders somewhere in some other church. but i'm not going to mention
20:44 mircea_popescu which exactly, so you can live from now on in the full serenity of knowing that it's perfectly possible you've been kissing my ass a number of times to date. all the best."
20:48 mircea_popescu actually, fuck that, i have to transalte it, willy nilly.
20:48 asciilifeform another interesting... character reappears in $thread , 'cousin_it' << iirc , a ru d00d, who was what passed for intellectual backbone of the lw forum until formally expelled for -- iirc -- pissing on the 'roko's basilisk' chix
20:48 mircea_popescu talk about absent options ;/.
20:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i imagine the way that works is "about one third of the class of phds hanging about mass campuses".
20:49 mircea_popescu exactly like drama class in highschool.
20:50 mircea_popescu so maybe his phd / patience with the idiocy ran out.
20:51 asciilifeform something ran out. at any rate i did not expect to see him return to same heathenpit
20:52 asciilifeform 'This post is literally the sort of thing trigger warnings were invented for' << elsewhere in $link
20:55 asciilifeform from earlier $entomo-specimen, https://mindsarentmagic.org/2015/08/06/as-an-aside-something-should-be-done-about-drones << 'something should be done!111'(tm)(r)
20:57 * asciilifeform maxed dosimeter, goes back to wurk
20:59 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel
20:59 deedbot gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
20:59 gabriel_laddel beetlejuice is suffering gainful employment writing java for the time being
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21:00 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: ... congrats . asciilifeform did a ~2yr sentence of java mine
21:03 gabriel_laddel managed to kill a x220 circuit board by swapping the screen to another, identical while machine was running. is this the sort of thing to 'fry' circuitry, and as a general rule I suppose no life fire electronics around CPUs?
21:04 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: lvds i/o typically dun have antistatic diodes
21:04 asciilifeform given as it doesn't expect to be fingered
21:04 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: i gotta ask, what possessed you to do it with box switched on
21:06 ben_vulpes is that the difficult-to-replace version?
21:06 ben_vulpes and yeah, what asciilifeform said. also hola beetlejuice
21:06 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: afaik the 220 is a cheapo and plentiful rubbish box
21:07 gabriel_laddel wanted to know how ready-for-anything people are making electronics nowdays, seeing as I know literally nothing about hardware. ben_vulpes hola & idk, never soldered anything before so should be fun
21:08 gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu American Honey review, or totally unwatchable?
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21:08 mircea_popescu mmm
21:09 mircea_popescu torrentmaster has no recollection ; possibly was never found.
21:11 asciilifeform trinque, other gentooists : another interesting discovery : portage has a hard ( but wholly imho spurious ) dependency on working system clock
21:13 ben_vulpes these turds you dig up, asciilifeform
21:14 asciilifeform hey this is 1st time i gentooated a box with no batteried clocks
21:16 asciilifeform ( keep in mind, this box is cheaper than mircea_popescu's cigar )
21:21 ben_vulpes oh i know, still amazed
21:25 gabriel_laddel lobbes http://mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm is why Uncle Al is known, though the rest of his work is great. There are 2-3 other pages that go along with it if you really dig
21:27 gabriel_laddel also http://yarchive.net/
21:28 trinque asciilifeform: huh, what'd it care about in particular?
21:28 trinque "onoes trying to replace file that claims newer on fs when updating?"
21:29 asciilifeform trinque: bombs with 'downloaded file is newer than current time' or something to that effect
21:29 asciilifeform i.e. 'fuckyou terrorist, seems you ain't running ntp'
21:29 asciilifeform !!up gabriel_laddel
21:29 deedbot gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
21:29 trinque bug of the we-put-that-there variety aha
21:29 trinque ohey gabriel_laddel lives
21:29 trinque good evening
21:32 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793445 << yep, they put the smoker's warning label on it
21:32 a111 Logged on 2018-04-06 00:29 asciilifeform: phunphakt for trinque : apparently something inside current-day portage re-package.mask's gcc <5 'for your own good' on every (?) --sync , leaving it to be unmasked manually.
21:32 asciilifeform trinque: the interesting part is that it comes back ~after repeated manual removal~ somehow
21:32 asciilifeform ( exactly how -- i did not yet unearth )
21:33 trinque later it'll do same, but clang vs gcc
21:33 asciilifeform i'm almost surprised there is any gcc left in'ere
21:33 asciilifeform evidently 'ministry of plenty' behind schedule
21:34 trinque https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Clang#Clang_environments << hey you can test the glorious future today
21:35 asciilifeform reminds me, i was in a train station, and everywhere there were billboards pushing 'milk of the future'(tm)(r), made --no, not from soy even -- but recycled peas.
21:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's '80s acorn coffee 'nervously smokes in the corner' compared to this
21:36 ben_vulpes recycled? what even
21:36 asciilifeform well what else to call it
21:37 mircea_popescu heh
21:37 mircea_popescu !#s nechezol
21:37 a111 0 results for "nechezol", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=nechezol
21:37 mircea_popescu ^ ceausescu's "coffee" made of burnt rye.
21:37 asciilifeform ah the oats one
21:37 asciilifeform acorns were german
21:37 mircea_popescu "a necheza" = to neigh ; -ol, chemical.
21:38 asciilifeform lolnotbad
21:44 asciilifeform in other noose, ~143MB/s avg. reads , ~33MB/s writes, on samsung usb3 stick ( vs ~20 / 15 on sd prior )
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21:54 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ << Trilema - Traditional family vs the harem, a comparative study
~ 51 minutes ~
22:46 mircea_popescu !!up MTW
22:46 deedbot MTW voiced for 30 minutes.
22:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, the girls make almond milk ocasionally.
~ 18 minutes ~
23:12 lobbes aha ty for teh link gabriel_laddel
23:19 douchebag !!up MTW
23:19 deedbot MTW voiced for 30 minutes.
23:20 douchebag Yo MTW
23:20 douchebag Hows it going ?
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