02:01 |
ben_vulpes |
> pragma Pure |
02:01 |
ben_vulpes |
slowly coming around to this ada thing |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
02:44 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: W_ZeroP is pretty nifty; this is a the great and legible approach to numulating with computers i've been missing my whole life |
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~ 4 hours 37 minutes ~ |
07:22 |
BingoBoingo |
!~ticker --market all |
07:22 |
jhvh1 |
BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 15011.78, vol: 14964.17889650 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14936.0, vol: 69368.82029594 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 15100.2, vol: 3178.19548484 | Volume-weighted last average: 14954.9215241 |
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~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~ |
08:32 |
BingoBoingo |
In other news, last night crowd was primarily Brazilians in town for the Cannabis expo |
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~ 57 minutes ~ |
09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in other you-can't-imagine-what-decivilization-is : abs wheel sensors here, $130. each. in sanelands, $30, a set of 4. |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
if you're wondering WHY the fuck would anyone buy singles, your mind is working correctly and you're on the way to explaining the mystery : imbecile orcmind DOES NOT PROVISION! DOES NOT MAINTENANCE! and generally has a very peculiar relartionship with the future, as discussed eg in http://trilema.com/2017/this-blog-is-now-about-bticino-and-other-coinsiderations/#footnote_0_75919 ; or http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735612 |
09:38 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-11-09 20:25 mircea_popescu: cuz these people WILL NOT FIX, anything, ever, until it literally breaks. |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
or so on. |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically : they do not keep supplies. latino mind does not understand there's something shameful in having shop of X, not having X.y item in stock. |
09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
consequently, because no demand, because no management, because no understanding whatsoever of what this capitalist world is or how it works, THEREFORE it makes ~~~perfect economic sense~~~ for part to cost 4x 4x what it costs among smarter people. |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
THIS is what end-of-civilisation means : as you include more and more brownies and "their values" into society, you exclude more and more sense and welfare from the economy. |
09:40 |
asciilifeform |
'sensor is what we dunhave at the sensor shop!1' |
09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr |
09:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it was how usa croaked |
09:41 |
asciilifeform |
!#s neutron absorbers |
09:41 |
a111 |
1 result for "neutron absorbers", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=neutron%20absorbers |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
09:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455832 |
09:41 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-04-22 15:58 asciilifeform: i like to call people who by their very presence make various constructive activities impossible, 'neutron absorbers' |
09:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749053 << yer in for a treat, ben_vulpes , whole thing is made of this |
09:43 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-12-09 07:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: W_ZeroP is pretty nifty; this is a the great and legible approach to numulating with computers i've been missing my whole life |
09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i gathered :) |
09:45 |
asciilifeform |
of course W_ZeroP only works the way it does because compilers are sad , in turn because people were idiots in 1970s and did not shoot the wreckers who so much as suggested to call a thing without overlow and zero flags, a cpu |
09:45 |
asciilifeform |
*overflow |
09:47 |
asciilifeform |
btw here's a phunphakt for ben_vulpes : ffa cannot be used as-is on ppc. ibm in infinite whizzdom made their mul instruction nonconstanttime. |
09:47 |
asciilifeform |
it shortcuts on zeros. |
09:48 |
asciilifeform |
if you must run on ppc, yer basecase (word x word) multer has to be 'egyptian'. |
09:51 |
asciilifeform |
and i'ma have to write a detector for this kind of idiocy, because anything at all can be expected from intel et al. |
09:52 |
asciilifeform |
for mul, pretty simple, time the interval needed for e.g. million 0x0 mulls vs million maxint x maxint ( and a few other patterns ) |
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~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~ |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
!!up BigTexasBingo |
11:03 |
deedbot |
BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes. |
11:03 |
BigTexasBingo |
Holy fuck do Brazilians smoke fuck tons of ganja |
11:04 |
* |
BigTexasBingo has for the near term readopted cigarettes for social cover |
11:08 |
* |
BigTexasBingo may be learning more Portugues atm than Spanish. |
11:09 |
BigTexasBingo |
Sobriety still intact. Still only met un gringa, though have now encountered a Brazilian born in Nueva York |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
good for you. |
11:11 |
BigTexasBingo |
Necessito encuentrar un nuevo lavador por mi ropa. Current one hasn't been attended since I dropped off mi ropa. But only been by twice. |
11:12 |
asciilifeform |
->encontrar ? |
11:12 |
BigTexasBingo |
Find |
11:12 |
asciilifeform |
yes |
11:12 |
asciilifeform |
but mutilated. or is this what the portuguese do. |
11:13 |
* |
asciilifeform grammarschool nitpicking |
11:13 |
BigTexasBingo |
It is the effect of my spanish immersion being invaded by the Brazillians and their slow, incredibly understandable speech. |
11:14 |
BigTexasBingo |
Weather here still muy bueno. |
11:17 |
BigTexasBingo |
And adjusting to hostel life |
11:17 |
BigTexasBingo |
Cowork life is very accommodating |
11:18 |
asciilifeform |
what exactly is a 'cowork' |
11:19 |
BigTexasBingo |
It is an office building floor whereI rent desk, get coffee and language practice, and fiscal address to give the lawyer |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
aa neato |
11:20 |
asciilifeform |
iirc phf had one of these in usa |
11:20 |
BigTexasBingo |
Monthly cost is in TBI statement |
11:20 |
BigTexasBingo |
Have access 24/7 to space |
11:21 |
BigTexasBingo |
Locking storage fwiw |
11:22 |
BigTexasBingo |
And rooftop lounge area for socializing and phone calls |
11:22 |
BigTexasBingo |
Brb, adventure resumes |
11:22 |
asciilifeform |
habitable outdoors must be pretty great. |
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~ 38 minutes ~ |
12:01 |
BingoBoingo |
It is indeed, the hours from doce y media through Cuartena y media can be rather hot, but milder than in the homeland |
12:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!!up _whitelogger |
12:03 |
deedbot |
_whitelogger voiced for 30 minutes. |
12:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!~ticker --market all |
12:13 |
jhvh1 |
BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13650.0, vol: 13035.50063927 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13632.0, vol: 64530.65458759 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14066.7, vol: 3056.60516005 | Volume-weighted last average: 13651.3908676 |
12:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, the weekend dollar liquidity crunch |
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~ 47 minutes ~ |
13:01 |
BingoBoingo |
And in Argentines trying Navy Seal copypasta http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/8uKS0/?raw=true |
13:05 |
BingoBoingo |
No, they are not being considered for jack shit |
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~ 32 minutes ~ |
13:37 |
phf |
i think this is the happiest i've seen BingoBoingo ever |
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~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~ |
15:12 |
TomServo |
heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment |
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15:17 |
TomServo |
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748919 << something like this? https://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/miniwebproxy |
15:17 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-12-08 20:54 asciilifeform: at some point one will need a sort of proxy simply to read heathenwww on anything like human os/iron |
15:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749118 << link ? |
15:21 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-12-09 20:12 TomServo: heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
TomServo: the proxy thing sounds exactly like what i wanted. primo candidate for tmsrization. |
15:25 |
TomServo |
asciilifeform: it dropped by the time I thought to archive, https://archive.is/iYTlp |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
ty TomServo , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15887475 has a little ball of lulz already, complete with card-carrying ninjashotgunner, |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
!#s tptacek |
15:27 |
a111 |
17 results for "tptacek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tptacek |
15:29 |
TomServo |
aha, I recognized the name, didn't recall the connection |
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~ 44 minutes ~ |
16:13 |
asciilifeform |
TomServo: see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523233 . |
16:13 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-08-17 16:54 asciilifeform: all i solidly know of the tptacek fella is his reaction to phuctor. |
16:14 |
asciilifeform |
elsewhere, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675980. |
16:14 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-06-28 16:09 asciilifeform: beloved sage ideologue of the schneierism komyoonity, author of gems like https://archive.is/ootJi |
16:15 |
asciilifeform |
d00d is, as i understand, a 'pillar-of-the-komyoonity', i.e. full-time politruk. |
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~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~ |
17:24 |
asciilifeform |
!!up clambodile |
17:24 |
deedbot |
clambodile voiced for 30 minutes. |
17:26 |
clambodile |
Thank you |
17:27 |
asciilifeform |
who might you be, clambodile ? |
17:30 |
clambodile |
I would describe myself as "a rando". I found this channel by chance, thought it seemed interesting. |
17:31 |
asciilifeform |
clambodile: consider reading log, at http://btcbase.org/log and elsewhere, and see chan subjline. |
17:32 |
clambodile |
asciilifeform: I thought I would lurk for now, if that's aight. |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
clambodile: there is no substitute for reading the log, if you want to have even half a clue. but lurk all you like, nobody's stopping anyone from lurking. |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749118 << this attracted such choice intellects last time... |
17:53 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-12-09 20:12 TomServo: heh FFA Chapter 2 is #1 on hacker news at the moment |
17:54 |
asciilifeform |
the q asciilifeform asks each time is 'wai'. it's not unlike learning that you've been featured on radio pyongyang |
17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
comes with teh territory. |
17:55 |
asciilifeform |
does it ? i dun recall last time e.g. trilema was '#1 on tardcombinator' |
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17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
a year or so ? |
17:55 |
asciilifeform |
possibly i'm not using enuff repellentpowder, lol |
17:56 |
asciilifeform |
hm possibly yea |
17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
periodicity of the venues. yearly on that shitpit, monthly on that other shitpit etc. |
17:57 |
* |
asciilifeform these days finds it hard to muster the givingashit to even follow up on 'was linked from shitpit!11' much of the time |
17:59 |
asciilifeform |
this time took a peek after all, to see 'are the hannoboecks still on duty'. answ: they are. |
17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
not hard for them : not wanted anywhere else. what could they possible do all day ? |
18:00 |
asciilifeform |
dunno, how about they pick up rubbish with bare hands, like in india. |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. |
18:04 |
trinque |
I dunno; I would've taken the comparison to Terry Davis as a compliment! |
18:04 |
trinque |
patron saint of computing juche |
18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it's funny how idiocy secretes narrative as its natural metabolism. algae make oxygen and estlatrds make loose stories. |
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~ 58 minutes ~ |
19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
lurking, eh. |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
19:34 |
* |
asciilifeform fiddles with serverz. the noise -- abominable |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
!!up izabera |
19:35 |
deedbot |
izabera voiced for 30 minutes. |
19:35 |
izabera |
hi |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
how goes |
19:35 |
izabera |
all good, i don't actually need help or anything |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
cool |
19:35 |
izabera |
just found this chan on https://archive.is/CGQkR |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
ohai izabera . are you a customer ? |
19:36 |
izabera |
nope |
19:36 |
izabera |
at least not yet |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
izabera: the unit is very much still available. |
19:37 |
izabera |
how many did you actually sell? |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
izabera: try asking dell how many servers he sold ? |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
not like it's not in the reports. hundred or so ? |
19:38 |
izabera |
not bad |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: dun think we ever published the exact #. although folx oughta be able to arithmetize. |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
within a degree of magnitude, sorta thing |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
100 was just the first batch ( which sold out last yr ) |
19:41 |
izabera |
are the prices on this page https://archive.is/CNpWm up to date? |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
nah. |
19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
where was that danielpbarron amazion thing ? |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
0.0395 is the current. |
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19:42 |
izabera |
still hella expensive |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
izabera: i gotta bite : compared to what ? |
19:43 |
izabera |
a ps4 |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
someone sells an auditable trng called ps4 ? |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
link ? |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol ps4 |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
wouldja simmer down alfie! |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
i mean it is also expensive compared to children's tricycle. but how about comparing similar items.. |
19:46 |
izabera |
i mean you must be aware of btc's recent jump to >15k usd |
19:48 |
mircea_popescu |
izabera you can prolly pick up some in teh aftermarket ; either amazon or w/e. |
19:51 |
danielpbarron |
someone bid and won it for 200 USD |
19:51 |
danielpbarron |
i'll put some more up soon |
19:51 |
mircea_popescu |
was your last one ? |
19:51 |
danielpbarron |
i have plenty more |
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~ 32 minutes ~ |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
!~later tell trinque is your musltronic gentoo recipe posted anywhere ? |
20:23 |
jhvh1 |
asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. |
20:26 |
asciilifeform |
!!up BingoBoingo |
20:26 |
deedbot |
BingoBoingo voiced for 30 minutes. |
20:26 |
asciilifeform |
err |
20:28 |
danielpbarron |
!~later tell izabera https://www.ebay.com/itm/292364922124 |
20:28 |
jhvh1 |
danielpbarron: The operation succeeded. |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
oh hey notbad biznis danielpbarron has. |
20:28 |
danielpbarron |
yeah it' |
20:29 |
danielpbarron |
yeah it's pretty nice. i can't really lose money selling these things |
20:29 |
danielpbarron |
even when i paid almost 100 USD to ship to that UK guy i still profited quite well for the effort |
20:31 |
asciilifeform |
possibly folx are less reluctant to part with fiatola than good old coinz |
20:32 |
danielpbarron |
i replaced the coin used to by mine at the time i bought them, so that works for me |
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20:33 |
* |
asciilifeform realized not long ago that he's quite ready to pay considerably 'more' in fiatola for a hypothetical item that is also-sold for btc , on account of the difficulty of replenishing the latter |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-10#1749209 << this is the key of the strategy. |
20:46 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-12-10 01:32 danielpbarron: i replaced the coin used to by mine at the time i bought them, so that works for me |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
!!up clambodile |
20:48 |
deedbot |
clambodile voiced for 30 minutes. |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
21:04 |
asciilifeform |
!!up clambodile |
21:04 |
deedbot |
clambodile voiced for 30 minutes. |
21:05 |
asciilifeform |
clambodile: please get an irc bouncer , or lurk by reading the logs. join/part spamola is not welcome |
21:19 |
cruciform |
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20171210/#52 they charged me import duty a fortnight after arrival! |
21:19 |
scriba |
Logged on 2017-12-10: [01:29:30] <danielpbarron> even when i paid almost 100 USD to ship to that UK guy i still profited quite well for the effort |
21:21 |
cruciform |
just about finished up with 6 months of logs; turns out I've a LOT of work to do! :-) |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
!!up esthlos |
21:22 |
deedbot |
esthlos voiced for 30 minutes. |
21:29 |
danielpbarron |
cruciform, if you don't mind, i'm curious what they charged you |
21:29 |
cruciform |
danielpbarron: £15, iirc |
21:32 |
asciilifeform |
in other noose, ALL of the 'livedvd' on gentoo's ftp appear to contain poetteringolade ( boots into gui horror, with systemd, 'networkmanager'-at-boot, etc. ) |
21:36 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: reproducing ben_vulpes' travails ahaha? |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: reproducing everybody's travails |
21:36 |
ben_vulpes |
likely with the 'wrist' to make it work |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
no exotic archs tho |
21:37 |
ben_vulpes |
buddy i've been beaten back on entirely conventional archs even of late |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
i thought ben_vulpes had a ppc thing |
21:37 |
ben_vulpes |
among others, yes |
21:38 |
ben_vulpes |
it is sitting happily on a desk, refusing to ada for reasons of package gcc 4.9 blocks gnat-gpl, which is the point at which i threw up my hands and declared a temporary retrograde advance |
21:43 |
asciilifeform |
the sad fact re gnat is that there is no known way to build a gnat without an existing (built) gnat. |
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21:44 |
asciilifeform |
( the building can happen, however , on any box having a working gnat of whatever type ) |
21:45 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: if you want to use gcc's gnat, you gotta get old ( 2016 and earlier oughta work ) tarball manually, and build; or obtain the 'obsolete' gentoo ebuild. |
21:45 |
asciilifeform |
alternatively you can use adacore's item. |
21:46 |
asciilifeform |
( i don't know of any particular reason to spit on it ) |
21:49 |
ben_vulpes |
most recently http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740314 |
21:49 |
a111 |
Logged on 2017-11-18 18:10 ben_vulpes: but the very very funny event was the script from the adacore binstaller simply fails, and instructed me to check an empty log file |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
22:08 |
asciilifeform |
ugh |
22:08 |
asciilifeform |
that's a first. this was on the ppc? or on pc? |
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~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~ |
23:21 |
ben_vulpes |
pc |
23:24 |
ben_vulpes |
cruciform: webirc is going to piss everyone off with join/part spam |
23:24 |
ben_vulpes |
either get a real bouncer or read the wwwlogz |