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06:56 BingoBoingo !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/F89n7/?raw=true
~ 2 hours 32 minutes ~
09:28 asciilifeform meanwhile, in the land of microshit, https://archive.is/45i24 >> 'There is a bug in Outlook that causes S/MIME encrypted mails to be send in encrypted and unencrypted form...'
09:29 asciilifeform and elsewhere in winblowzistan, 'Equifax website hacked again, this time to redirect to fake Flash update'.
~ 48 minutes ~
10:18 mod6 Updated Republican Node List with pete_dushenski's new '199.204.187.186'.
10:18 mod6 Thanks pete_dushenski!
10:22 asciilifeform in other lulz, something closely resembling trb node on ex-dulap ( 46.166.165.30 ) still running... though i do not recommend it for any practical use
10:23 asciilifeform whole box is , at least from surface appearance, untouched, logins work, etc
10:24 * mod6 holds nose
10:24 asciilifeform hey trinque check your boxes that had 'wires', they are probably STILL running, and trbing to it
10:25 asciilifeform and who else had one of these -- ben_vulpes ?
10:26 mod6 I did, but i took mine down a while ago.
10:33 jurov dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
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10:42 trinque asciilifeform: took down my wire too, but thanks for the heads up
10:55 mircea_popescu ahaha equifax raped to shit.
10:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so if logins work then just beleete it.
10:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what'd that do , exactly, whoever wanted copy of hdd - already has
10:56 mircea_popescu well, when presented with knobs, twiddle them at least once.
10:57 asciilifeform lol
10:57 * mircea_popescu wouldn't put it past teh excel-powered-secret-agents to have fucked up the backups, for instance.
10:58 mircea_popescu "oh, of course we have. WE ARE THE MOST TECHNOADEVANCED COLLECTION OF IDIOTS AND DUMB CUNTS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWS!!1"
11:01 asciilifeform speaking of 'technoadvanced' gerontocracy, https://archive.is/IFtZF >> 'Congress’ pharmacist hints some members have Alzheimer’s, backpedals furiously'
11:02 asciilifeform best part, 'People on Twitter expressed dismay at the revelation and the apparent breach in trust.' << 'people'
11:05 mircea_popescu hehehe
11:05 mircea_popescu teh... zinx probably hired the same people already!
11:17 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
11:18 mircea_popescu aww the crashing crashed the bot???
~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~
12:21 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724326 << nb
12:21 a111 Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
12:25 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724326 << good habit to develop ~now~, 'p' has no hidden embedding of date (or of anything else) in sigs
12:25 a111 Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
12:27 asciilifeform a pgptron that embeds 'helpful' things magically in sigs is approx as dumb idea as rifle that helpfully reaims itself in random directions
12:27 mircea_popescu pretty sure they have that
12:27 asciilifeform 'oh hey a bouncing ball, you wanted that shot too i assume?'
~ 27 minutes ~
12:55 mircea_popescu meanwhile on no us campus ever, http://78.media.tumblr.com/bc011bb5754ed041bb788b31c508dea9/tumblr_np4t4cw6K31txs21yo1_540.gif
12:58 mircea_popescu meanwhile in alt-republics, https://twitter.com/botsbreeder/status/836472673857232896
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12:58 asciilifeform spamublics
13:08 mircea_popescu yet apparently can rent 1k boxes.
13:08 asciilifeform or 1k bulldozers, what of it
13:08 mircea_popescu we need a couple.
13:10 asciilifeform ask'im if he'll let a few ? or is there problem, is he weak in the head like all of the others, and only takes goldspamogram or shiterium or some other fuckknowswhatbutneverbitcoin
13:10 mircea_popescu why the fuck would he work for you, i don't get this.
13:11 asciilifeform for mircea_popescu , presumably
13:11 asciilifeform i dun need a spamdozer at all.
13:11 mircea_popescu you expect if random dood on side of the road asks me if he can what ? rent my car ? girl ? take a sip of my drink?
13:11 mircea_popescu in what world does this make sense.
13:11 asciilifeform reading the link, seems as if d00d were in it for the moneyz, rather than for own amusement in his cellar, neh
13:16 asciilifeform if mircea_popescu had a twatter page where he boasted of having purchased 1,000 200-litre crates of orca-cola, but did not say why, it would not be unreasonable to politely ask if he wanted to sell some -- though answer could end up being 'it is to fill my swimming pool, buzz off'
13:22 mircea_popescu guy runs ahref, a popular google gaming thing.
13:22 mircea_popescu libregoogle, if you will.
13:23 asciilifeform aah
13:23 asciilifeform ok then makes sense.
13:23 mircea_popescu i expect they do a buncha indexing or such
13:24 asciilifeform ahref ! iirc accounted for 80+% of the http log lines on dulap.
13:24 mircea_popescu aha. so there you go.
13:24 asciilifeform he might be the 1 d00d with a full html mirror of the thing.
13:25 asciilifeform ( or then again could be anybody, and for some reason using his useragent, i have nfi )
13:25 asciilifeform fwiw 1000s of unique ips presenting that string.
13:26 mircea_popescu supposedly he got a coupla k boxes. but, you realise, nobody buys a box without a bunch of ips for it.
13:26 mircea_popescu as we were saying, c block per rack is actually kinda narrow
13:26 asciilifeform for some reason on 1st reading i pictured bots, rather than racked 'honest' boxen
~ 15 minutes ~
13:42 diana_coman !!key Roger_
13:42 deedbot Not registered.
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14:16 mircea_popescu !!key Roger_
14:16 deedbot Not registered.
14:19 mircea_popescu !!key roger___
14:19 deedbot Not registered.
14:21 mircea_popescu trinque dood complaining deedbot registered him but no key showing ?
14:22 trinque he only just did
14:22 trinque !!key roger___
14:22 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/1561DD13B8CA28425D462D1BCD184E985A3A667B.asc
14:23 mircea_popescu oh oh. ty.
14:24 trinque !!key roger__
14:24 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/1561DD13B8CA28425D462D1BCD184E985A3A667B.asc
14:24 trinque also that lol
14:24 trinque yw
14:24 trinque gotta camp all the rogers; there's gonna be a rush!
14:28 mircea_popescu the variety of noob approaches to things is unennumerable.
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14:44 asciilifeform meanwhile in the circus, 'North Korean hackers stole a vast cache of data, including classified wartime contingency plans jointly drawn by the United States and South Korea, when they breached the computer network of the South Korean military last year, a South Korean lawmaker said Tuesday.'
14:45 asciilifeform 'One of the plans included the South Korean military’s plan to remove the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, referred to as a “decapitation” ' etc.
14:45 asciilifeform 'The military has not yet identified nearly 80 percent of the 235 gigabytes of leaked data' run moar koreablowz
14:51 mircea_popescu heh
14:56 ben_vulpes which reminds me "Symantec is no longer allowing governments to review the source code of its software because of fears the agreements would compromise the security of its products" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-russia-symantec/exclusive-symantec-ceo-says-source-code-reviews-pose-unacceptable-risk-idUSKBN1CF2SB
14:57 ben_vulpes "they took a stand and they put security over sales"
14:57 asciilifeform 'ohnoez, nsa whitelist gotta stay seekrit'
14:57 ben_vulpes something like that, yeah
14:58 asciilifeform '“Obviously source code could be used in ways that are inimical to our national interest,” Cilluffo said. “They took a principled stand, and that’s the right decision and a courageous one.”'
14:58 asciilifeform gold.
15:04 BingoBoingo lolton
15:04 BingoBoingo *Lolrton
~ 17 minutes ~
15:22 BingoBoingo !!up gribble
15:22 deedbot gribble voiced for 30 minutes.
15:22 mircea_popescu heh
15:22 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
15:22 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5275.02, vol: 19011.87 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 5370.9, vol: 3310.15 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5314.9, vol: 74586.75 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 5288.01, vol: 17322.93 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5279.3, vol: 7739.98 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 5283.88, vol: 11248.65 | OKCoin BTCUSD last: 5221.67, vol: 4224.79 | Volume-weighted last average: 5299.93
15:22 asciilifeform ;;goxlag
15:22 gribble Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
15:22 asciilifeform eh.
~ 17 minutes ~
15:40 ben_vulpes and in other misdirections: keys.gnupg.net
15:41 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: looks like just another sks ?
15:41 ben_vulpes really? i get redirected to analytics.sumptuouscapital.com
15:42 asciilifeform ben_vulpes might want to have a stern talk with his isp ?
15:42 ben_vulpes whoa yup.
15:42 asciilifeform btw here's an oddity : http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?search=polimedia.us&fingerprint=on&op=index
15:42 asciilifeform https://archive.is/Kxo5O << archive.is sees it
15:43 asciilifeform hey mircea_popescu , didja know that they display a 'pub 4096R/2FB7B452 2014-06-16 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified]' ?
15:43 asciilifeform what, i wonder, is this 'verified' business
15:43 ben_vulpes this actually seems to be a chrome wtf?
15:43 trinque says over here "It works!" default html page
15:44 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: just nao tested on 2 chromes, loads as pictured on archive link
15:44 asciilifeform definitely not chromism
15:44 mircea_popescu no idea what this is. whi's they ?
15:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: koch
15:44 * mircea_popescu shrug.
15:45 mircea_popescu did you know there's a bunch of sites translating trilema and trying to sell adwords on the "content" ?
15:45 ben_vulpes local links shows correct page...
15:45 mircea_popescu sumptuouscapital lmao. wtf is wrong with these idiots. royal and empire and bs.
15:45 mircea_popescu reminds one of the early studio system minors battles.
15:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ftr, pub 4096R/2FB7B452 2011-07-22. 2014 item prolly some fake or w/e.
15:46 asciilifeform http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?op=get&fingerprint=on&search=0x254F55242FB7B452 << >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DNY0M/?raw=true
15:47 ben_vulpes cleared browser data and now i get the right page
15:47 ben_vulpes what in the ever loving fuck
15:47 ben_vulpes OR A PAGE THAT LOOKS RIGHT
15:47 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you know you sound a lot like porn surfers with infected setups with all this.
15:47 asciilifeform btw did everybody spot how the faek was made
15:48 asciilifeform or need finger point ?
15:48 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: $work demands infectable browser, what can i say
15:48 mircea_popescu i expect ye olde "copy signature on anything, gpg is happy"
15:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nope
15:48 asciilifeform it's a valid sig
15:48 mircea_popescu eh ?
15:48 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i have not spotted
15:49 asciilifeform oh ffs
15:49 mircea_popescu srsly, ppl downloading my sig from keys.gnupg.net can end up with a fake replacing the original ?
15:49 asciilifeform folx you don't know mircea_popescu's longfp ?!
15:49 asciilifeform 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452 << genuine mp
15:49 mircea_popescu !!key mircea_popescu
15:49 gribble Error: "!key" is not a valid command.
15:49 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.asc
15:49 asciilifeform 0x8907923DC95594B2 << faek
15:49 mircea_popescu indeed.
15:49 asciilifeform or nope
15:49 asciilifeform 0x254F55242FB7B452 <<
15:49 asciilifeform faek.
15:49 mircea_popescu so someone actually took the trouble to mine a collision ?
15:49 asciilifeform cheapo collision
15:49 asciilifeform dollar store
15:49 asciilifeform ( 32-bit )
15:50 mircea_popescu i suppose i should be flattered.
15:50 trinque ftr I get a "not found" on the above link.
15:50 asciilifeform but Somebody Cared!1111
15:50 ben_vulpes there is also "This key was generated as part of the Evil32 project. It is not owned by the user descrived in the UID"
15:50 asciilifeform trinque, ben_vulpes : Great Firewall of Great Again already being betatested eh
15:50 mircea_popescu heh mk.
15:51 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: reading from top down is cheating!1111
15:51 mircea_popescu cheating is the only acceptable mode.
15:51 asciilifeform also memorize at least good chunks of friends' hashes , it is not a waste of brain cell
15:51 ben_vulpes hey, all the other crap i've chewed through because linked here is inscrutable when i read the last chapter first
15:51 ben_vulpes eg crc
15:52 trinque looks like something fucky with their DNS setup, possibly one or more of the servers in rotation is misconfigured
15:52 ben_vulpes what's the trilema article in re "we're being probed
15:52 ben_vulpes " ?
15:52 mircea_popescu !~google site:trilema.com "being probed"
15:52 trinque chrome btw caches dns internally iirc
15:52 ben_vulpes google apparently really needs that site flag; such AI
15:52 mircea_popescu oh noes j got shoad
15:53 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it's been trying to pretend the rest of the world is writing interesting shit for the past year or so.
15:53 mircea_popescu whenever they noticed that trilema does 0.1% of volume gets 1/3 of keywords or somesuch.
16:03 trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Xqu8r/?raw=true << last one in the rotation is a busted server
16:04 trinque didn't bother checking all, but I don't so much suspect great firewall of MAGA as run of the mill ineptitude
16:04 asciilifeform that's a hefty bit of redundanthost...
16:05 mircea_popescu maybe they had a hdd that needed repairs.
16:13 asciilifeform re sks, might be lulzy to generate revokograms for phuctured keys and send to it. afaik they currently display ALL revokograms with the respective key. put whatever text you want...
16:14 asciilifeform ( they also display ALL keys, incl. some misformatted. theoretically one could dump entire phuctor pubkeyset , incl. Framedragger's ssh conversions, in there.. )
16:15 ben_vulpes heh sounds like phun
16:15 asciilifeform i haven't been able to think of any practical reason to do this, so could not be moved. but anybody with copy of the db dump, can, if he feels like.
16:17 asciilifeform ( iirc sks ~can~ be configured to reject pubs without selfsigs -- but not everyone did this )
~ 35 minutes ~
16:52 mircea_popescu trinque here's a thought : write me a branded single page "how to" somewhere, and ima modify the pay for your tits thing to only work with deedbot invoices. can then use it to push teh service, how's that sound ?
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16:56 trinque sounds like a great thing to me. will do.
17:02 mircea_popescu cool.
17:03 mircea_popescu once it's ready we'll get someone to hit the bimbo sites. shinohai you wanna do some work that way ? or should i have zinx hire some "Blackhat" lol.
17:03 mircea_popescu trinque but listen, you've seen them, right ? write for indiancandy. "Here is HOW TO get paid for tits!"
17:03 mircea_popescu lotta reassurance and lotta word-confirmation.
17:04 trinque lol, yeah I've talked to bimbos before
17:04 mircea_popescu :p
17:05 mircea_popescu trinque can prolly cannibalize large parts of eulora how-to-set-up-account guide, it's finetuned enough only about 50% of civillians end up needing handholding.
17:05 shinohai I'm game mircea_popescu ... have nothing better to do nowadays with no qntra and my twitter acct suspended.
17:05 mircea_popescu shinohai oh, you didn't want a reddit btw ?
17:06 mircea_popescu and what happened to jhv
17:06 shinohai Yeah, I'll use it when the above is ready to hit up the r/gonewilds, sexsells, etc
17:07 shinohai Trying to find new home for jhvh1 .... lost host, don't want to put on home box yet
17:07 mircea_popescu tsk.
17:09 shinohai Should xhamster pay me the buttcoins they owe me by end of week I'll have him back up in a jiffy.
17:09 mircea_popescu wouldja like a buttday advance ?
17:10 shinohai Can't hurt
17:10 mircea_popescu aite, invoice me.
17:11 mircea_popescu once we get the above sorted out, you can pay in stripper / camwhore forum/etc posting.
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17:12 shinohai aite ... reading deedbot help now
17:14 mircea_popescu once tmsr isp is up we'll evidently also need a server for "vps" style shared accts.
17:14 mircea_popescu on top of the other for classic shared wp blogs etc.
17:16 shinohai If, when the isp is up, we need someone to manage a znc or weechat type service I can probably manage
17:17 shinohai YOU ARE HEREBY BANNED FOR JOIN/PART SPAM. If yu wish to recconect plox 2 purchase bouncer from deedbot, thx.
17:17 mircea_popescu not even a bad idea
17:17 trinque this is exactly the thing the deedbot subscription system is going to be angling for, btw.
17:17 mircea_popescu whassat ?
17:18 trinque items like hosted IRC, whatever other SaaS
17:18 mircea_popescu saas is a good move, everyone's lazy.
17:19 mircea_popescu it helps if it also works ; but apparently utter unworkitude is not dissuading the "business" world.
17:32 asciilifeform asciilifeform's pile o'boxen could hold a mighty lot of znc etc
17:32 asciilifeform once a place to plug'em in turns up.
17:32 mircea_popescu once homed ? yeah hehe.
17:33 asciilifeform they dun do much good sitting here in tortureroom, no.
17:34 asciilifeform though i've contemplated plugging the one designated for phuctor, in, and running it through some cheapo 1G-of-disk rental's ip, via home pipe
17:34 asciilifeform as temporary thing.
17:34 trinque I dunno why you wouldn't, really.
17:35 asciilifeform trinque: will need, laugh if you must, 2nd inverter
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17:35 trinque do processing at undefined loc; do output at whichever dumpster of the week
17:35 asciilifeform current one's maxed
17:35 mircea_popescu lol
17:35 trinque oh lol
17:35 mircea_popescu btw, you have to pay a lot more attention to wattage when buying further boxes.
17:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: opteron means 2x the usual wattage
17:35 asciilifeform really, surprised ?
17:35 shinohai !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.05 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724510
17:35 a111 Logged on 2017-10-12 21:11 mircea_popescu: once we get the above sorted out, you can pay in stripper / camwhore forum/etc posting.
17:36 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/h2YEz/?raw=true
17:36 mircea_popescu and also, any amd fx 9500 for eg, in U config ?
17:36 asciilifeform those ain't ecc
17:36 asciilifeform so not interesting to asciilifeform
17:36 asciilifeform but prolly exist
17:36 mircea_popescu (amd produced different same chips, for dcs and for desktops. significant power diff)
17:36 asciilifeform afaik they were all hogs
17:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform we had the fx 9500 ecc discussion like three times in the logs. they are.
17:36 asciilifeform chip supported, mobo didn't
17:37 asciilifeform so effectively a no
17:37 mircea_popescu desktop mobo isn't useful forracking anyway.
17:37 asciilifeform if mircea_popescu remembers a u-form fx mobo -- plox to link.
17:37 asciilifeform can't hurt to have in the l0gz.
17:37 mircea_popescu i don't specifically, but this is exactly the point here.
17:38 asciilifeform while we're on subj -- the 'dumpster for ip, disks/cpu-horse elsewhere' gambit is (afaik pioneered, at least publicly, by mircea_popescu in mpex) imho a monumental thing
17:38 mircea_popescu it is.
17:39 asciilifeform fabricated warez complaint or whatever nonsense will 99% of the time take out the 'exit' box and not touch the other
17:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform does microatx fit u1 ? i dun recall
17:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in principle almost anything can be stuffed into a u1; ~literally~ anything can stuff into a u2
17:40 asciilifeform headache is in that you'd have to drill it, find heat sinks that fit, adapt the standard sliding rail ps to fit your thing, etc
17:41 asciilifeform i've drilled various rackmount for custom internals ( currently fitting FG, incidentally , into u1 ) and it is a manual carpentry
17:41 mircea_popescu yeah none of that nonsense.
17:41 asciilifeform it's only even worth thinking about if no alternative.
17:42 asciilifeform microatx might be an exception, incidentally, it tends to be small, flat, passively cooled
17:43 asciilifeform 'pcengines' racks a-ok
17:43 asciilifeform ( you don't even strictly speaking need a u-case for it, can bolt 'ears' to the stock case )
17:45 mircea_popescu ftr, amd actually does the ecc in the chip itself.
17:45 mircea_popescu double bit detect single bit correct 144bit ddr3 sdram.
17:45 mircea_popescu which is why "non ecc boards work fine anyway"
17:47 mircea_popescu but that aside, eg ASUS M5A78L-M actually supports it through the very bios.
17:48 mircea_popescu (note that the whole sert-up, ie that mobo, a modest am3+ chip, a coupla mem banks and some minimal diskage should draw <1oo W)
17:49 mircea_popescu and that at max load.
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18:11 mircea_popescu meanwhile at the fun farms, http://78.media.tumblr.com/589660dbf388e0e58dcda2e525c10793/tumblr_no1awoaEX51urp2hro1_1280.jpg
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18:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you need a mb that actually has the sockets for ecc dimms
18:14 asciilifeform these are not same as the luser dimms.
18:14 asciilifeform ( elementarily, extra lines )
18:15 mircea_popescu yea.
18:15 asciilifeform oh here's one for mircea_popescu : asus M5A78L-M
18:16 mircea_popescu you don't actually read my lines do you.
18:16 asciilifeform i read the 'non-ecc board worx fine' and can attest that it does not
18:16 asciilifeform even if you have hammer to pound the nonfitting dimms in
18:16 asciilifeform oh hey there it is lol
18:16 mircea_popescu :p
18:16 asciilifeform i'ma ll-1 parser, wat.
18:17 mircea_popescu don't skip my blocks on first error, i often recover.
18:17 asciilifeform lolyea
18:19 asciilifeform the low-wattage amd champ, incidentally, is the g-series ( as in 'pcengines', 'gizmo', and other sageprobetronic boards ) -- whole box pulls 10-20w
18:20 mircea_popescu ideally about 120-130w per u1 profile. power is expensive in dcs
18:21 mircea_popescu (mostly because they don't want to deal with its waste product)
18:21 asciilifeform when asciilifeform was a sysop in early 2000s, the only racked item in the dc he ministered to that drew < 300 W, was a thermometer.
18:22 mircea_popescu lumea s-a schimbat
18:24 asciilifeform y'know them opterons dun actually ~pull~ those 700w here on my desk, mircea_popescu
18:25 mircea_popescu i believe.
18:25 asciilifeform that's a max, for if you fill the disk cage
18:25 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724571 <<< I was almost afraid to look down, but nope - not a trap.
18:25 a111 Logged on 2017-10-12 22:11 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the fun farms, http://78.media.tumblr.com/589660dbf388e0e58dcda2e525c10793/tumblr_no1awoaEX51urp2hro1_1280.jpg
18:25 asciilifeform typical moar like 300-400
18:26 asciilifeform incidentally, did we ever do the 'diskless racked box' thread ?
18:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717739 << nm apparently we did
18:26 a111 Logged on 2017-09-27 02:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717726 << this reminded me of an ancient crackpotteriferous idea of mine: diskless, welded-shut box that boots into minimal sshiferous thing, privkey in boobytrapped sram etc. you fill it up remotely with os etc. and thereafter if power cut.
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18:54 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> 'pcengines' racks a-ok << Gotta mind hot/cold aisle distinction for self defense from other's heat if otherwise passively coolable
18:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'passive' boxes cool through the ears.
18:55 BingoBoingo Still gotta keep out other motherfucker's hot air
19:00 BingoBoingo Maybe can count a bit on directionality of airflow provided by other fans, but... cable induced turbulence is a thing
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19:15 BingoBoingo !!Up erlehmann
19:15 deedbot erlehmann voiced for 30 minutes.
19:16 erlehmann i think i can up myself if i have something to say, but thanks
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19:47 asciilifeform in other ffaism, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tdnsL/?raw=true
19:48 asciilifeform ^ minimal moving parts for barrettron suggested by apeloyee
19:49 asciilifeform if anyone can see obvious 'this can be simpler' or 'this dun make sense' plz write in.
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19:50 asciilifeform FZ_ShiftRight_Secret_SubW and FZ_ShiftLeft_Secret_SubW do exactly same thing as ye olde FZ_ShiftRight and FZ_ShiftLeft , but don't leak shift amt on machine w/out barrel shifter, at the cost of roughly 10x as much work
19:51 asciilifeform they are almost certainly unnecessary on a pc, but can't put it past intel & friends to 'optimize' shl/shr, at the very least in the 'do nothing if operand is 0' sense.
19:53 asciilifeform mod6, mircea_popescu , phf , et al ^
19:57 asciilifeform veteran ffaists will recognize the usual pattern -- do all of the possible ops that go into heaviest possible hamming weight of old-fashioned shiftness; but keep (via mux) only the required subshifts.
19:59 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/s3As6/?raw=true << aaalmost forgot the log2 thing
19:59 asciilifeform and in the .ads, BitnessLog2 : constant Positive := W_Log2(Word(Bitness));
20:00 asciilifeform ^ happens during elaboration
20:00 asciilifeform that's all of it, i think.
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20:16 mircea_popescu ccmtacks hey there.
20:16 asciilifeform meanwhile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lvGTgEBAw8 ( for orclang aficionados strictly )
20:16 mircea_popescu !!key ccmtacks
20:16 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/A213A38BE8660D713C0A69B3B9EB9E5F4DE45E7A.asc
20:17 asciilifeform 'Gori Njujork, Pentagon se pali,/ Ameriko, dali su ti, dali. / Gori Njujork, Pentagon se ruši, / Krajišnici, vraćajmo se kući. / Šta će sada u Zаgrebu vlada, / Amerika na kolena pada...'
20:17 mircea_popescu ccmtacks http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/afD5t/?raw=true
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20:39 shinohai Someone claims to have obtained copy of sound used in Cuban attax http://archive.is/XmrAa
20:39 shinohai I'll be back in a week when the vomiting, dizziness, and diarrhea subside.
20:42 asciilifeform 'questions of a possible microwave or radio wave device .... If that were the case, the sounds wouldn’t show up on a recording' << and anyone should believe the clip is genuine article precisely why.
20:43 asciilifeform sounds, btw, entirely not unlike 'microwaved' audio pickup .
20:49 ben_vulpes so i'm fiddling with some source delivery pipeline, and i discover that some asshole has put executable code into his cl .asd files; which i suppose is fine in some circumstances, but i'm doing Terrible Things over here and the asd's aren't getting concatenated with everything else and so just to add another entry to my list of folks whose decisions have made my life harder i look this dude up and can ya
20:49 ben_vulpes believe it he proudly writes ethereum shits now
20:50 asciilifeform wat's a source delivery pipeline
20:50 mircea_popescu i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ?
20:50 mircea_popescu wtf, nobody goes to school anymore ?
20:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: anybody can make anything out of anything, esp. if the inputs are fictional.
20:51 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: tiny set of scripts to get all of the source for a project from box a to box b
20:51 mircea_popescu that's part 2 of our show.
20:51 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i am entirely unsurprised. the "scale bitcoin" shitheads + the "exciting blockchain technologee" shitheads + the "we are marketing" dogeheads are pretty much === the cancer that has eaten foss.
20:52 asciilifeform http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/images/cynocephalos.jpg << oblig dogehead
21:03 asciilifeform meanwhile, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/IkTH9/?raw=true << current ffascisms list. and growing!
21:03 ccmtacks mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7CSPJ/?raw=true
21:06 asciilifeform err, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/wBiWg/?raw=true << minus the cruft
21:06 asciilifeform ^ mod6 et al
21:06 mircea_popescu ccmtacks say !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
21:07 trinque sec, lemme add his key to the right box
21:07 mircea_popescu lol
21:07 trinque there's an append only thing that doesn't exist yet
21:08 * mod6 looks
21:08 ccmtacks !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
21:08 deedbot You must be registered.
21:08 mircea_popescu ccmtacks give it one moment, trinque has to fiddle the bot's guts.
21:09 ccmtacks ok
21:10 trinque ok give it another crank
21:10 mircea_popescu trinque is this crushing you btw ? should slow down ?
21:10 trinque nah it's the good kind of pain
21:10 mircea_popescu lol
21:10 mircea_popescu ccmtacks hit it nao.
21:10 trinque I always start with human mechanisms and then speed 'em up
21:10 mircea_popescu me too. it's the only right way to symbian.
21:10 trinque haw!
21:11 mod6 haha
21:11 ccmtacks !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
21:11 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/N06e7/?raw=true
21:11 asciilifeform whenever i think 'human mechanism' i think of the (terrible) film 'snowpiercer'
21:11 mircea_popescu !!help
21:11 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
21:11 * trinque wiggles hand at asciilifeform
21:11 asciilifeform lol
21:12 mircea_popescu hm, there's no way to pay it without the number, huh. !!received-invoices step mandatory.
21:12 trinque I could have it burp the invoice number in logs if people don't care that it does
21:12 mircea_popescu im sure they do.
21:13 trinque I'd have thought so yeah
21:13 mircea_popescu the right thing would be for it to execute !!pay name if unambiguous and protest otherwise it needs an invoice number (or heck, just pay everything ?)
21:13 mircea_popescu but still up in the air this, needs more human strokes.
21:14 trinque anyhow ccmtacks gotta pass the decrypted otp back to deedbot like with !!up
21:14 mircea_popescu maybe have a magic !!pay joe all ? and btw, why is it not simply !!pay ?
21:14 trinque I don't like overloading commands
21:14 * mircea_popescu hates typin'.
21:14 ccmtacks I got decryped otp
21:14 trinque that sends a defined amount to a person, hasn't to do with invoicing
21:15 mircea_popescu ccmtacks say !!v wit it
21:15 trinque don't want people sending 3 btc when they meant pay invoice 3
21:15 mircea_popescu trinque o shit i should have just sent it to him huh. my bad, still new at this.
21:15 ccmtacks !!v 56988162BA62D0ED252CC97D66917B8BDA0B156175326682ED0A3942D6598114
21:15 deedbot Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.0145 <<
21:15 mircea_popescu !!received-invoices
21:15 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NgPRW/?raw=true
21:15 ccmtacks done
21:15 mircea_popescu ccmtacks 1sec
21:16 mircea_popescu !!pay-invoice ccmtacks 1
21:16 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/mmRdg/?raw=true
21:16 mircea_popescu trinque oh it counts PER NICK. this is very workable then.
21:17 mircea_popescu i daresay it's the right thing as it is.
21:17 trinque yep, unique between you and other party
21:17 trinque i.e. if you invoice him it'll be 2
21:17 mircea_popescu ya, perfect.
21:17 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bzzrrapp.jpg << meanwhile in n00b spot welds
21:17 mircea_popescu this way you have a passive "your books and my books gotta match yo" extra accounbting check there.
21:19 mircea_popescu ccmtacks you're good to go. can see your btc wallet with !!balance and can also !!withdraw if you wanna sell it etc.
21:19 mircea_popescu or can keep it there, it's safe. DO NOT LOSE YOUR PGP KEY though.
21:19 mircea_popescu !!pay-invoice shinohai 1
21:19 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wCABz/?raw=true
21:19 ccmtacks !!balance
21:20 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/88yjG/?raw=true
21:20 mircea_popescu ccmtacks sorry i fucked it up. try again now.
21:21 ccmtacks !!balance
21:21 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dB4Wx/?raw=true
21:23 mircea_popescu shinohai http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iLf2O/?raw=true
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21:27 ccmtacks !!withdraw 0.0145 32uGGc1G4Cytie5zXa8gGWZJvdyM2KncX5
21:27 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rJfgy/?raw=true
21:28 ccmtacks !!v 22201C7FC5E2694EBCF2F5240D0507A41EE8C2F0FDC7C2179622E424142A1556
21:31 ccmtacks mircea_popescu, during the withdraw process, if I don't receive any response from deedbot, when I give him the encrypted OTP, does it mean that I have to do all the process again ?
21:31 mircea_popescu you put an extra space after the v
21:31 ccmtacks I did left one
21:31 ccmtacks I will try again
21:32 ccmtacks !!withdraw 0.0145 32uGGc1G4Cytie5zXa8gGWZJvdyM2KncX5
21:32 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/MM0w3/?raw=true
21:32 trinque hold on. what are addresses starting with 3 again?
21:32 asciilifeform !
21:32 mircea_popescu trinque it doesn't pay 3s ?
21:33 asciilifeform how would trb pay a 3, lol
21:33 mircea_popescu doh.
21:33 mircea_popescu ccmtacks need proper bitcoin address, 1-led.
21:33 ccmtacks !!v 58E3CD3F416C32C575F676B62CC83B062D2AF5E9E7D384C3F3150E2817C6F44A
21:33 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/olvC7/?raw=true
21:34 ccmtacks mircea_popescu, I've received a message from deedbot that the amount of coins will be transfered to desired btc address
21:34 ccmtacks so I guess everything is fine now
21:35 trinque ...
21:35 trinque lol, hi ccmtacks. I'm the operator of deedbot
21:35 asciilifeform trinque: looks like eggog ?
21:35 trinque not eggog, it's a string
21:35 mircea_popescu ccmtacks yeah but trinque runs it and if he says it won't then i tend to believe him.
21:35 trinque asciilifeform: there's no hot wallet here; I'm marching my ass over to another box and making signed tx, then popping into a trb with polarbeard patch for sendrawtransaction
21:36 ccmtacks ah, sorry trinque, I didn't know that
21:36 mircea_popescu this sounds like great slavegirl punishment.
21:36 asciilifeform woah srs hand-crank reactor rod control
21:36 mircea_popescu ccmtacks sorry for all the hassle ; re-do once more, use a 1something address like god meant it.
21:37 trinque idea is to tighten the loop until it is a matter of <1min
21:37 mircea_popescu i believe.
21:37 trinque then from there, hot wallet, but one where refilling it is both human operated and quite easy
21:39 mircea_popescu in other news, zinx sex got camhos lined up for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724491 already.
21:39 a111 Logged on 2017-10-12 20:52 mircea_popescu: trinque here's a thought : write me a branded single page "how to" somewhere, and ima modify the pay for your tits thing to only work with deedbot invoices. can then use it to push teh service, how's that sound ?
21:39 ccmtacks !!withdraw 0.0145 1JxsMSnFZdNdVnnDqiTV4aAYM3sESdbPrE
21:39 mircea_popescu obviously, i mean sez not sex. but anyway.
21:39 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tMA6k/?raw=true
21:41 ccmtacks !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
21:41 mircea_popescu ccmtacks say the !!v again, single space.
21:41 ccmtacks !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
21:42 mircea_popescu still two spaces...
21:42 ccmtacks I don't get it, I only type one space and it gives me two
21:42 mircea_popescu that's weird.
21:42 ccmtacks !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
21:42 mircea_popescu say there you go.
21:42 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ybrnj/?raw=true
21:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform check it out, macs give double \n windows give double \s
21:43 ccmtacks ok, I believe that now is everything ok
21:43 mircea_popescu well done!
21:43 trinque ccmtacks: actual amount will be less the tx fee. I'll fire that off in a bit.
21:44 mircea_popescu o darn i forgot the tx fee.
21:44 ccmtacks trinque: ok, no problem at all.
21:44 trinque nbd. there needs to be a whole tx weighing mechanism in order to let people know what that amount will be in the response.
21:45 mircea_popescu ccmtacks next time, remind me i'll tack on an extra coupla bucks.
21:46 ccmtacks ok mate, no problem. I wanted to ask you regarding the fees, however, this time I've just been looking to do everything right
21:46 mircea_popescu anyway, simple way to sell anything for bitcoin : get a !!deposit from deedbot, give out that address.
21:46 trinque well, give out the amount. otherwise it's not going to right account
21:47 mircea_popescu make sure you get exact ammts though, otherwise there's trouble. if deedbot says 0.044236666 then make sure op sends exactly, all the way to the 6666.
21:47 trinque sorry, jumped the gun.
21:47 trinque this thing obviously pairs up with a buy/sell board quite well
21:47 trinque so much to do
21:47 mircea_popescu aha
21:48 mircea_popescu trinque zinx ran me a grand or so so far, but i would way the fuck rather blow a grand on that than what the fuck is the alternative
21:48 mircea_popescu pay a coupla dumb hos who don't even hooker for a living to sit among some plastic shits at a "conference", spend 10x that much ?
21:48 mircea_popescu noty.
21:50 ccmtacks Noted, I've read a lot of the help material, so I actually get it how it all works now, well a good part of it :)
21:51 mircea_popescu ccmtacks the important part is that unlike websites etc it's actually secure.
21:51 mircea_popescu as long as you keep your rsa key safe, of course.
21:52 ccmtacks yeah, I get it now
21:52 mircea_popescu meanwhile in random labia, http://78.media.tumblr.com/85972afe2d38a48d1e31533b4b622a27/tumblr_nj0q3hJycj1rvrgfvo3_1280.jpg
21:52 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ? << AHA, like "traffic safety" radar
21:53 trinque mircea_popescu: I'm gonna post a tutorial on deedbot.org tonight, and also hook up the newb nick+key conveyor
21:54 mircea_popescu trinque don't sweat it, she'll do it when i tell her to, what. tomorrow, monday, whatever.
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21:55 trinque aite
21:55 trinque buy sell board does appear within reach now huh.
21:55 mircea_popescu take it ezzy so you last teh long haul.
21:55 mircea_popescu trinque can directly push lobbes 's bot into it, what more is needed ? we have all the parts.
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21:56 mircea_popescu ~only thing really needed is proper hosting.
21:56 trinque oh hey it's got auctions, doesn't it
21:57 trinque !@help
21:57 trinque !Qhelp
21:57 lobbesbot trinque: http://lobbesblog.com/lobbesbotcommands
21:57 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724705 <<< ty mircea_popescu will do! :)
21:57 a111 Logged on 2017-10-13 01:23 mircea_popescu: shinohai http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iLf2O/?raw=true
21:59 mircea_popescu trinque definitely, check it out on http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-10-11.log.html#t21:42:21
21:59 lobbesbot Logged on 2017-10-11 21:42:21: <diana_coman> !QAuction 2.86mn 48 29173 Flotsam q62
22:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4aUZ8/?raw=true Jolo returns from his day off
22:02 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo eh i really don't need all of these.
22:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: k, I'll wait for ones with numbers
22:05 asciilifeform 'we only need one victory' (tm)(r)
22:07 mircea_popescu god's honest truth.
22:13 BingoBoingo Still, the Asian cador continues to impress.
22:15 BingoBoingo !!Up saot
22:15 deedbot saot voiced for 30 minutes.
22:16 saot Hi there
22:16 saot I'm just lurking
22:16 BingoBoingo Who is your daddy and what does he do?
22:17 saot i don't know what he does, he wrecks his life
22:18 BingoBoingo Oh, is that good or bad for you?
22:20 saot bad but it doesn't affect me
22:21 BingoBoingo Maybe one of these days hitting a rock bottom will give him an opportunity for a spiritual experience? Anyways, what are you lurking for?
22:24 saot some mental stimulation, cool corners of the internet are good to find unusual options
22:24 saot i think this is one of them
22:28 BingoBoingo So, who's your favorite? Any memes here you are a fan of?
22:30 saot I like 4chan but recently i find it boring
22:32 BingoBoingo Ah, why not register a key? Make yourself at home?
22:32 saot i'm not fan of a specific meme but throwing communists out of helicopters sounds fun
22:33 saot how do i do it?
22:33 BingoBoingo !!help
22:33 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
22:33 BingoBoingo ^ There are the instructions
~ 17 minutes ~
22:50 BingoBoingo !!up saot
22:50 deedbot saot voiced for 30 minutes.
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23:11 BingoBoingo So, anyone in the Repulic have any ideas on network switching equipment?
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23:23 ben_vulpes my trinqulator sez "mac mini with openbsd"
23:24 trinque lol
23:24 * trinque checks over his shoulder
23:33 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724819 << >> http://rw9hyy.tsu.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_6926.jpg
23:33 a111 Logged on 2017-10-13 03:11 BingoBoingo: So, anyone in the Repulic have any ideas on network switching equipment?
23:33 BingoBoingo How many mac minis are necessary to bond together a 14 Gbps link to the worl?
23:34 BingoBoingo lol alf
23:39 mod6 haha
23:50 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://ua1osm.forum2x2.ru/t18-topic << maaany great switchings to choose from!
23:50 asciilifeform ^ last one -- from t34.
23:51 BingoBoingo Well, AA battery as power supply means won't interfere with heat envelope too much
23:55 asciilifeform hey BingoBoingo didja have toys like https://49.img.avito.st/640x480/3519579249.jpg in '80s gringolandia ?
23:56 asciilifeform ^ exact item asciilifeform had; somewhat surprised that it turned up on www with minimal effort
23:56 BingoBoingo Actually, sort of. As late as 1994-ish
23:57 asciilifeform https://57.img.avito.st/640x480/3519579257.jpg << better pic
23:58 BingoBoingo Were sold at local bookstore. There was even electricity kit where lightbulb, battery, and wire was offered.
23:58 asciilifeform not quite same
23:58 asciilifeform here was explicit teaching of useful 13337ski111z for dyin'formotherland
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