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01:08 deedbot [ยป Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Be careful what you roll for. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/30/be-careful-what-you-roll-for/
01:22 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459887 << this sits poorly with me too, ftr
01:22 a111 Logged on 2016-04-30 23:47 hanbot: <jurov> and re:holding s.qntr your concerns are misplaced. No one expressly forbade me to flip/short/margin/whrtever them, then there was gracious donation from princessnell who lost her key cand could not think of any way how to prove her identity otherwise, etc... << err, if "she" lost her key, how'd she prove it was her that lost it?
01:23 ben_vulpes so princessnell can't up, because can't keys. what of it, ergo "not princessnell".
01:25 ben_vulpes but this is all kind of moot, because at the end of the day, jurov is simply on the hook for princessnell's shares, should someone with her key ever come along to claim them.
01:25 ben_vulpes this is banking
01:26 ben_vulpes jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly.
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02:13 punkman http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/software-error-doomed-japanese-hitomi-spacecraft/?print=true
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04:45 punkman https://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4h379h/coinbase/
04:46 punkman https://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4h379h/coinbase/d2n2o0m lulz
04:48 punkman http://qz.com/672780/russia-is-considering-legislation-that-would-send-bitcoin-users-to-jail-for-up-to-7-years/
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07:20 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65AF533625D036E68BEFAD0F3B7E5A4B933DB7487F4108A75235E17C0745BAF8
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07:20 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E978198490CFA7348C9693D979D416842E8189A18EED564723E0B9F2795BB067
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08:42 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459989 <<< that looks like a turd with legs.
08:42 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 03:37 BingoBoingo: The amazing load bearing capacity of the human spine brought to you by Beyonce https://i.sli.mg/gdOUR5.png
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10:43 mircea_popescu phf : could a111 answer to !s "string", on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=string ?
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10:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform egi hosting, known malware host.
10:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> (and happily detect, e.g., neutron flux) << it undermines peace you see. for some definitions of peace which reduces to "usg makes all the war"
10:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna.
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10:50 mircea_popescu anyway. certainly good candidate for s.nsa product list, to be sold anonymously for btc.
10:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting << it is insulting, not to us though. think about it : the crab has pincers because in its environment THAT WORKS ; and so does "GET /blog/blog-config.php~".
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10:55 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly. << somethinglikethat.
11:04 mircea_popescu ;;calc (2595+210)/1807875*100
11:04 gribble 0.155154532255
11:04 mircea_popescu ;;calc (210)/1807875*100
11:04 gribble 0.0116158473346
11:05 mircea_popescu so depending on how you figure, there's 1.55 bad moduli per thousand ; of which 0.11 are outright factorable, the rest mostly bad exponents.
11:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460004 << holyshit, nontrivial factor. and see the 2 mods side by side, and will see why...
11:14 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 11:20 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5174413344875007990519123187618500139954995264909695897020209972309881454541 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Texas Instruments Inc. <txn@ti.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65AF533625D036E68BEFAD0F3B7E5A4B933DB7487F4108A75235E17C0745BAF8
11:15 mircea_popescu o.O
11:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460011 << you don't need photomultiplier tube with the fiber, aha.
11:17 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 14:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna.
11:17 asciilifeform subtract $1000 or so, and no need for hv, and no wear...
11:17 asciilifeform so yes, 'antenna'
11:18 mircea_popescu espcially because it amplifies well. 1km fiber, ~1mn x value of 1 mm fiber.
11:18 asciilifeform collimates, in practice. but yes.
11:19 mircea_popescu holy shit it's modern.
11:19 asciilifeform '80s
11:19 mircea_popescu sig 2537030E 2015-08-23
11:19 asciilifeform oh key
11:19 asciilifeform lol
11:19 mircea_popescu Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: sks.okoyono.de
11:19 mircea_popescu DE!
11:20 mircea_popescu there was some sort of large scale diddling of germany
11:20 asciilifeform noshit.jpg
11:22 mircea_popescu there seems to be no use made of it. i was tempted to make this into a qntra piece, but...
11:22 asciilifeform ti is famous for that 513b key in the calculator
11:22 mircea_popescu aha
11:22 mircea_popescu but is this it
11:23 asciilifeform which was factored by buncha folks the old-fashioned way
11:23 asciilifeform 512
11:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: briefly back to the fiber, from what i saw last night, one would need about 20cm for ideal rng.
11:28 mircea_popescu the irony here being that it's not SO hard to make.
11:28 mircea_popescu certainly not chip-hard.
11:28 asciilifeform drawing fiber is only slightly easier than chip fab
11:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're thinking "every sperm is sacred" style. think al schwarz "i really dun care if i waste 99% of the glass" style.
11:30 asciilifeform nah
11:30 asciilifeform but elaborate..?
11:31 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460008 << yah ascii already asked for the feature. I was moving between apartments, so will go back to hacking in a day or two
11:31 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 14:43 mircea_popescu: phf : could a111 answer to !s "string", on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=string ?
11:31 mircea_popescu i dunno, this being unknown unknown. but as an example : take hard porous material (say, metallic carbide), cut into thin slice, heat to 3k, pour melted glas on top, let some of it find its way through necessarily open pores (ceramic is thin), select from the results usable fibers.
11:32 phf I think ! conflicts with deedbot though
11:32 mircea_popescu phf what do you keep doing to these women that they keep kicking you out every three weeks.
11:32 phf !s foo
11:32 gribble Error: "s" is not a valid command.
11:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nope. you need the fiber to be straight, or if will kink to death when transported.
11:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gravity makes it straight.
11:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: also recall that scintillator fiber is plastic
11:34 asciilifeform glass is not correctly dopable afaik.
11:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so you use plastic and adjust temp correspondingly.
11:34 mircea_popescu you just wanted me to step into the dark. i did.
11:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you don't have controlled constant diameter, you lose the total internal refraction and it aint fiber nomoar
11:35 mircea_popescu tungsten carbide. no plastic will alter that pore.
11:35 mircea_popescu it will extrude steel.
11:35 asciilifeform no, but it will stretch while hanging molten under it
11:36 mircea_popescu you fill the underside with gas at pressure so exact same density as fiber.
11:36 mircea_popescu then you extrude it electromagnetically or w/e.
11:37 asciilifeform and now mircea_popescu has correctly described the usual $100m apparatus...
11:37 asciilifeform 'devil is in the details'
11:37 mircea_popescu i dunno...
11:38 mircea_popescu anyway, let it be said for the record that if anyone wants to move here and do the job, and we can keep costs within sanity, i'd definitely considering making a plant and exporting the product freely
11:38 mircea_popescu just for the public relations embarassment of publicising this fact.
11:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is really begging for a wtf unconventional wunderwaffen, think:
11:39 asciilifeform or did you already guess it
11:39 mircea_popescu no, i'm begging.
11:40 mircea_popescu is it ok to beg in #trilema or notrly ?
11:40 asciilifeform find way to dope standard plastic fiber, already born....!
11:40 mircea_popescu (in my mind the foremost role of this place is exactly - begging for unconventional wunderwaffen)
11:40 asciilifeform for you do not need whole thing to scintillate!
11:41 asciilifeform it is enough for the cladding to.
11:41 asciilifeform think!
11:41 mircea_popescu you want to just take fiber and coat it ?
11:41 asciilifeform well, not simply coat
11:42 asciilifeform need a little penetration
11:42 asciilifeform but yes.
11:42 mircea_popescu ;;google material that neutrons excite, emits photons on deexcitement
11:42 gribble Nuclear isomer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_isomer>; Gas-filled tube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-filled_tube>; Overview-Lattice Energy LLC Gamma Shielding Patent US 7893414 ...: <http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/overviewlattice-energy-llc-gamma-shielding-patent-us-7893414-b2-issued- (1 more message)
11:42 mircea_popescu onoes ?
11:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform technically speaking, thermalizing neutrons may take them to visible spectrum. but this wouldn't count would it.
11:42 asciilifeform it is painfully catalogued, just not on pediwikia
11:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nope cause he dun reflect
11:43 mircea_popescu anywya. my solid state is dusty. i dun recall what all this was.
11:44 asciilifeform if i had $$$, would try to score some existing scintillator and put it through ms and get their dopant.
11:44 asciilifeform you cant hide the periodic table.
11:44 mircea_popescu this sounds more like a job of "if i had the she-thieves" than $$$
11:44 asciilifeform thieves work also
11:45 mircea_popescu anyway. let's leave this in mod6's ticket tree somewhere offscreen for nao.
11:45 asciilifeform but will need 2 of'em, since i no longer have access to mass spec
11:50 mircea_popescu actually i'm surprised not more radioastronomy effort is put into this. imagine if you will : array of a few million km long fibers, arranged inside a cylinder, in layers by angstrom thichness from 1mn on the bottom to 1 A on the top, in a circular pattern at 0.001 rads apart each.
11:50 mircea_popescu you need 3141 * 10**6 * 10**3 meters worth of fiber, and you get the best damn measure of background neutron radiation ever made.
11:51 ben_vulpes pediwikia suggests polyethylene naphthalate as scintillating plastic
11:52 mircea_popescu (my crude idea being that according to wavelength, the neutrons will be captured top to bottom)
11:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it is tho
11:52 ben_vulpes why the neutron requirement?
11:52 asciilifeform where do you think i was playing with it
11:52 asciilifeform it was in astronomy expo
11:52 mircea_popescu lol wankery is one tyhing, but afaik no such observatory exists ?
11:52 asciilifeform exists here at uni
11:53 asciilifeform they launch balloons in antarctica
11:53 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes neutrons are interesting for the reason explained in alf's link : they only exist as result of activity of a select set of materials/conditions
11:53 asciilifeform with a km or so of fiber in
11:53 mircea_popescu suns don't yield them, supernova, quasars and black holes only
11:53 asciilifeform and pu brick in next room aha
11:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform guess where that comes from.
11:54 asciilifeform which that
11:54 mircea_popescu or in related news : guess oh dear reader why the sun is mostly nickel/iron by mass
11:54 mircea_popescu and by "sun" i mean "earth" for all the difference this makes.
11:54 asciilifeform reader went to third grade, presumably, and knows...
11:55 mircea_popescu i suspect nobody really went to YOUR third grade, alf.
11:55 asciilifeform eh l0lk
11:55 mircea_popescu and you'll have to desist with that, by the way. yesterday girl burst into tears in subte because i went "you don't understand fractions. pick up a third grade book, or at least it was third grade in romania, whatever highschool / college course it is in english, and study fractions."
11:55 mircea_popescu I BLAME YOU.
11:56 asciilifeform what kind of gurl was it
11:56 asciilifeform usa?
11:56 mircea_popescu tall, yeah
11:57 asciilifeform poor critter
11:57 mircea_popescu tall, pretty thing. small tits, but that's easily fixed.
11:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hey, not that poor. unlike the rest of her misfortunate sisters, at least she has someone to say "you may not be a person until you learn fractions".
11:58 mircea_popescu everything else is poverty.
11:58 asciilifeform the chick with the fiber, incidentally, was pretty, but mircea_popescu would prolly have said 'pankakeface'
11:58 mircea_popescu it'd be sad if we all liked the same ones neh ?
11:59 mircea_popescu (incidentally - THIS is fundamental illustration of "republic may not exist if rules are homogenous". historical republics failed on the basis of people agreeing as to what's beauty in women.)
11:59 asciilifeform at any rate it blew me away that it exists not even in 'ebay', where you could at one point buy even radium
12:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the usg is very worried about it, because think about it - unshieldable missile target.
12:00 mircea_popescu and they lost the missile war.
12:00 asciilifeform aha, trivial to make 'neutron camera'
12:00 mircea_popescu this would allow nuke sub detector to unerringly destroy all the subs. that's the last hope, now that carriers aren't worth their weight in bull viscera.
12:00 asciilifeform i could do it with a few hundred metres of it
12:01 mircea_popescu could tow cable, detect all nuclear subs.
12:01 asciilifeform aha.
12:01 mircea_popescu turns out they're really VERY vulnerable, who knew.
12:01 mircea_popescu da fuck you're gonna shield, glwt.
12:02 mircea_popescu anyway. if memory serves this became obvious during late 70s / 80s faroe islands gamewars with the russians, resulting in us subs doing all sorts of lulzy, dangerous, landhugging
12:02 mircea_popescu as well as a programme to deploy pu decoys on ocean floor. tho a) russians map the shit and b) so wtf does it do for you anyway.
12:02 mircea_popescu no idea where that's at by now, and i suspect everyone involved would much rather not even look at the discussion.
12:02 asciilifeform pu decoy can only fool ordinary neutron sensor
12:02 asciilifeform the kind with tube
12:02 mircea_popescu 80s.
12:03 asciilifeform fiber - laughs, aha
12:03 mircea_popescu but yes, for the slow, THIS is what they mean by "undermine peace". the us doctrine is that its ability to strike is roughly speaking equal to "world peace", and this makes any sort of us "projection" unfeasible.
12:04 mircea_popescu thus, undermines [what's left of] "world peace", as the usg defines the term. this after the 2000s saw the underminiung of the other chunk, with china, russia and now iran making carriers useless.
12:04 mircea_popescu the mirror relation between "world peace" and "bitcoin" in its treatment in usg agitprop sources being, of course, striking.
12:05 asciilifeform 'pax americana' (tm) (r)
12:05 asciilifeform but yes, with fiber, could have robotic hunter of subs and carriers.
12:05 asciilifeform hell, autonomous.
12:06 mircea_popescu and could consist of a 100kg batyscaph with some fiber towed, a sort of intelligent depth charge
12:06 asciilifeform aha.
12:06 mircea_popescu doesn't have to find you across the atlantic, just lock on you if you come within 100km
12:06 asciilifeform drop from airplane.
12:06 mircea_popescu quite. create interdiction zone, o noes.
12:06 ben_vulpes aaaaah
12:06 ben_vulpes it's disturbing how hard this conversation is making
12:06 ben_vulpes me
12:07 mircea_popescu lol
12:07 asciilifeform quite the gift.
12:07 mircea_popescu hey i thought you were busy vulpes.
12:08 ben_vulpes already wrote three tests this morning. making coffee and wanking over scintillation for a spell.
12:09 mircea_popescu (re interdiction zone : yes, subs fire icbms, so have range. but they're not orbitals, and interdiction zone can be practical things such as "a ring around either end of panama canal, down by terra del fuego and up by newfoundland, for instance)
12:10 mircea_popescu just in case anyone in argentina is both a) smart enough to know that #trilema logs are more important to his country than anything happening in spanish and b) interested in wtf would someone care about fauklands.)
12:23 asciilifeform incidentally you can pick up nukez from the air, easily enough
12:23 asciilifeform with neutronography
12:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sort-of an application of my above cylinder.
12:24 mircea_popescu detects MOVING source.
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12:39 asciilifeform aha.
12:42 asciilifeform other phun phakt,
12:42 asciilifeform nyookz are routinely transported by ordinary road in usa
12:42 asciilifeform (and possibly britain, and elsewhere)
12:42 asciilifeform in unmarked containers.
12:43 asciilifeform usg luuuuvs to know at the borders if you're pissing neutrons (note what price of helium on the market did in past 20 yrs. us dhs bought up most of it, for tubes)
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12:43 asciilifeform but really does not relish the prospect of pocket neutron camera.
12:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: elementary re interdiction range, if you set up no-go zones you can herd the ship into a kill.
12:45 asciilifeform so it does not matter whether it has rockets.
12:45 asciilifeform (which are ~worthless unless ~unpredictably in motion~)
12:49 asciilifeform http://www.nucsafe.com/cms/Nuclear+Processes/54.html << lel from yesterday's link
12:51 asciilifeform 'animated powerpoint!11111'
13:03 ben_vulpes from the annals of perverse technology reuse: http://i.imgur.com/ctEveER.jpg
13:03 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: famous
13:03 asciilifeform ru jet-powered snow blowerz
13:03 ben_vulpes look i didn't grow up on usenet it's nyoooooz to me
13:04 ben_vulpes plus not in log can't possibly be famous.
13:04 asciilifeform pretty sure it was in logz at one point
13:04 jurov i do remember it being discussed too
13:05 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mig+snow
13:05 jurov and it's not only russian, sop in all countries with snowfallfall/melt/freeze cycles in winter
13:11 jurov ...that also have railroad
13:11 ben_vulpes mhm well let me know when you find those other loglines
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13:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha.
13:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> look i didn't grow up on usenet it's nyoooooz to me << your third grade sucks compared to his third grade!!!
13:29 ben_vulpes dude my third grade was waldorf
13:29 mircea_popescu nowai ?!
13:29 ben_vulpes fucking /life/ has been remedial study.
13:29 mircea_popescu waldorf-astoria you mean ?
13:29 ben_vulpes yes i grew up in ahotel
13:29 ben_vulpes just call me eliose
13:29 ben_vulpes eloise*
13:29 mircea_popescu lol.
13:30 ben_vulpes do you know how we were taught about conduction?
13:30 ben_vulpes the school had a copper rod
13:30 mircea_popescu "My mom did the beds. I did the bedwarming. A memoir."
13:30 ben_vulpes (of startling diameter, in retrospect. musta cost a fortune.)
13:30 ben_vulpes teacher lined us up, holding the rod, and applied a torch to one end.
13:30 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes nothing wrong with that neh ?
13:31 ben_vulpes sure, if it'd happened before 5th grade.
13:31 ben_vulpes kindergarten, maybe.
13:31 mircea_popescu uh. no, actually, in my country physics = 6th grade, they spend a year doing such stuff.
13:32 ben_vulpes with the math, right?
13:32 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: did you folks do the neon tube thing ?
13:32 mircea_popescu old style curricula actually included machined piece of various metals, large chunk with varying thicknesses, with movable screw connectors. with voltmeter and amperemeter, you could measure the material.
13:33 ben_vulpes attitude towards math during my tenure at hippieschool was "oh, you finished the long division worksheet? oh uh let me go photocopy some more."
13:33 mircea_popescu had to confirm the given tables etc.
13:33 deedbot [Qntra] Qntra Correspondent Infiltrates Trump-Clinton Luncheon - http://qntra.net/2016/05/qntra-correspondent-infiltrates-trump-clinton-luncheon/
13:33 mircea_popescu the idea was quite deliberately to make connection with liquid flow etc, the next year bernouli discussion contained EXACT SAME PROFILE
13:33 mircea_popescu except of glass.
13:34 mircea_popescu then you measured pressures.
13:34 ben_vulpes yeah, once i browbeat my parents into moving me to a school with a decent physics and math program things picked up.
13:35 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes amusingly enough, in ro the difference is made as "real" vs "humane" schools.\
13:35 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo turns out it bbet is still on kako's box
13:35 mircea_popescu bitchez usually ended up in the humane schools.
13:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda too lazy to deedbot a list of the various spots in logs where the fact that bitbet keeps no logs was discussed. seems about 99 and 3/4% that the whole point there was to create an entry point for later parallel construction, "o look what bitbet logs show".
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13:37 mircea_popescu except, of course, any bitbet logs are an ulterior fabrication, they never existed prior to march 2016.
13:38 mircea_popescu lulzy shit, anyway. complete with sig that used to be someone coming back from the dead, apparently not quite sure what its nick is.
13:38 asciilifeform znort ?
13:38 mircea_popescu znor/t
13:38 asciilifeform and afaik nobody's trotted out any imagined logs yet
13:39 asciilifeform or mircea_popescu is thinking of znort's having asked for them, aha
13:39 mircea_popescu "asked".
13:39 asciilifeform ah that.
13:39 mircea_popescu anyway, yeah, no fake logs appeared yet. and miner conspiracy no longer exists, also. and things.
13:39 mircea_popescu thanks god for science and stuff.
13:39 asciilifeform toldya hitler will buy it.
13:39 asciilifeform fwiw.
13:39 mircea_popescu sure.
13:40 mircea_popescu anyway, to bridge this discussion with the kaiser wilhelm "disappeared" daily telegraph interview discussed last week :
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13:40 mircea_popescu the reason you do not want to discuss anything with hitler, such as for instance in the shape of hitler's own propaganda magazine "interviewing" you is that they aren't interviewing you. what they are doing is trying for a "o noes scandal and wilhelm lost all his support" piece. if it works, they got it, if it doesn't work, "it never happened".
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13:41 asciilifeform entirely typical.
13:41 mircea_popescu they work for who they work for, and that's that.
13:41 asciilifeform i was actually interviewed by a hitler organ as a young man
13:41 asciilifeform re diebold voting machine protest.
13:41 mircea_popescu the pill against this, of course, being to force them to conduct their interviews here. which means that our logs publish better material faster than they do. which means that we > them.
13:41 asciilifeform it took precisely this scheme.
13:41 jurov ;;later tell BingoBoingo pls to doublecheck the figures on qntra report, the figures are hysterically off
13:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:41 mircea_popescu and if they're not willing to eat his cumbiscuit, it's clear why : they aspire to go political in the manner discussed above.
13:42 asciilifeform aha we had this, iirc, with the reuters chick
13:42 mircea_popescu and this is why i won't talk to any of them, unless in this manner.
13:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah but it's been years.
13:42 asciilifeform (lulzily i was working for reuters at the time and had to keep from laughing/gagging)
13:42 asciilifeform (they bought the outfit i was in at the time, hilarious story for another time)
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13:43 BingoBoingo jurov: fuck
13:43 mircea_popescu aaanyways. very strict dilemma : either you're a derpy magazine looking to give some material to your readers, in which case the interview being published in fuill and first on the logs does not bother you in the slightest ;
13:43 mircea_popescu or else you're in the business of trying to shape public discourse for hitler, in which case the above is unacceptable, and you've blown your cover.
13:44 mircea_popescu there's no way out of this, which is why them ignoring #trilema is a forced mistake.
13:44 asciilifeform handily going with this observation is that phuctor is more or less 100% successfully blacked out on the net
13:44 asciilifeform ~0 real traffic.
13:44 mircea_popescu i see it.
13:45 asciilifeform i am, incidentally, readying the 8ball.
13:45 asciilifeform (not the fortune-teller toy, the ~other~ one.)
13:45 mircea_popescu that's really about ~all that matters. you see, who reads their fake "scientific studies" is irrelevant. because they're neither studies nor scientific, and so http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ is a complete pill, and controls the topic.
13:45 mircea_popescu meanwhile, who reads our scientific studies matters, in the sense that they're actual science. not only valuable but actionable. not reading = death.
13:46 mircea_popescu "oh it'll take too long" is, essentially, the defense of the cod in scania sounds.
13:46 jurov http://isup.me/phuctor.nosuchlabs.com O.o
13:46 asciilifeform jurov: loads
13:46 jurov Loads. But isup.me says It's not just you! http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com looks down from here.
13:46 asciilifeform lel
13:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform his point it loads for youk, or me, but not isup.me
13:47 mircea_popescu which is what we were discussing :)
13:47 asciilifeform aha, mega-unsurprise
13:47 BingoBoingo jurov et al: fxd http://qntra.net/2016/05/qntra-s-qntr-april-2016-report/
13:47 BingoBoingo ty
13:47 asciilifeform gotta love the blackhole.
13:47 ben_vulpes zarbee!
13:47 asciilifeform where, i suspect, the only folks able to connect to the trb node on same box are also us.
13:47 asciilifeform (when even this)
13:47 mircea_popescu ;;google phuctor
13:47 gribble No Such lAbs: <http://nosuchlabs.com/>; Loper OS ยป Phuctor: Fun with Public-key Cryptography.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1331>; random - Offline RSA strong prime test similar to Phuctor ...: <http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/89713/offline-rsa-strong-prime-test-similar-to-phuctor>
13:48 asciilifeform ;;googleviavirginalproxy phuctor
13:48 gribble Error: "googleviavirginalproxy" is not a valid command.
13:48 asciilifeform eh.
13:48 mircea_popescu ;;google phuctor&tbs=qdr:w
13:48 gribble No matches found.
13:48 mircea_popescu eh get out.
13:48 asciilifeform what's that do
13:49 mircea_popescu shows last week
13:49 mircea_popescu http://google.com/?q=phuctor&tbs=qdr:w
13:49 asciilifeform phuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllll spectruum d0000000m1n4nc3!1111111111111
13:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that takes me to a search box with the word in it
13:50 asciilifeform and that's all
13:51 ben_vulpes http://www.techworm.net/2015/05/two-security-researchers-break-rsa-4096-bit-keys-with-phuctor.html << needs updating?
13:51 jurov curl: (7) Failed to connect to 46.166.165.30 port 80: Connection refused
13:51 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: hit enter?
13:51 jurov ^phuctor
13:51 mircea_popescu i guess they got rid of simple get req's
13:51 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: pretty sure we got a few 8192b by now
13:51 asciilifeform jurov: loads here. you might be on the wrong side of Great Firewall or wut.
13:52 jurov no, i tried curl from aws
13:52 asciilifeform l0l!!!!
13:52 jurov or you block aws?
13:52 mircea_popescu possibly aws is blocked tho
13:52 asciilifeform hm
13:52 mircea_popescu was some flooding/ddos earlier.
13:52 asciilifeform iirc i do.
13:52 asciilifeform i banned all aws from everything i operate
13:53 jurov perhaps isup.me is on aws, too. from a gandi.net vps it works
13:54 asciilifeform quite possibly.
13:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform : https://archive.is/I5j41
13:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lulzy
13:55 asciilifeform 'no one is talking about it except for you, stfu'
13:55 asciilifeform 'and we have bridge to sell'
13:55 asciilifeform incidentally google has crawled the thing obsessively
13:55 mircea_popescu anyway, what's your definition of "Real traffic" in "<asciilifeform> ~0 real traffic." ?
13:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i had the http logz scrolling in a terminal since hour 0
13:56 asciilifeform they dun move much.
13:56 asciilifeform except when google crawled, and that s4mz0r earlier.
13:57 mircea_popescu well what's your idea of much.
13:57 asciilifeform dozen or so humanlike loadz / day.
13:58 mircea_popescu well what's your definition of humanlike
13:58 mircea_popescu jesus this is like pulling teeths.
13:58 asciilifeform things that don't go fetching robots.txt first
13:58 mircea_popescu aha
13:58 mircea_popescu plenty of bots actually don't.
13:58 asciilifeform sure.
13:59 asciilifeform (which is why i never bothered with robots.txt)
13:59 asciilifeform point being, i'm not certain anyone other than #trilema folk, and crawlers, ~even saw it~.
14:00 mircea_popescu well... and if saw, what'd they understand.
14:01 mircea_popescu certainly conde nast isn't publishing anything matching "phuctor" string ever again.
14:01 mircea_popescu which isn't such a bad idea - spares either side the aggravation.
14:10 mircea_popescu anyway, tbh this silence seriously enhances teh value of phuctor, at least to my eyes. imagine, i can link something from trilema that's not just interesting, but actually exclusive content ? sign me up lmao.
14:12 mircea_popescu speaking of which, BingoBoingo what'd be your thoughs about qntra editorial policy whereby people are referenced in articles as John Q Random (WoT:<a href=http://btcalpha.com/wot/user/jqr>jqr</a>) or John Q Random(WoT:unperson) as the case may be ?)
14:17 mircea_popescu perhaps to be doubled up with a rule that all corporations are referenced as Name (MPEx:<a href=http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NAME>Name</a>) or Name (Scam) as the case may be.
14:21 BingoBoingo sounds interesting
~ 16 minutes ~
14:37 asciilifeform unrelatedly,
14:37 asciilifeform or perhaps not,
14:37 asciilifeform 'Alice in Icy-land: A story for children. ... Full-color illustrations, not signed. Scores of advertising booklets have capitalized on the idea of โ€œAlice in [whatever]-landโ€ (โ€œAlice in Brown Sugar Landโ€ is another favorite.) Most, like this one, have little to do with the original story, but manage to draw upon it in some way. This booklet promotes the (continued) home use of ice refrigeration at a time when electric refriger
14:37 asciilifeform ators were taking over the market.'
14:38 asciilifeform ( from local l0ltr0n, http://www.lib.umd.edu/alice150/beyond-the-books/business-and-technology )
14:38 asciilifeform 'The booklets were given away to children, this copy by the Union Coal and Ice Co. in Chillicothe, Ohio. '
14:38 asciilifeform when can we expect fiatola booklet.
14:40 asciilifeform '...and in their Air-ship gaily flew / to foreign lands the whole world through, / to learn how Ice protects our food / And works so greatly for our good! / She learned from Mr. Kangaroo, / From Penguins, Bears, and Walrus, too, / Just read this story, / And you'll see / What Ice has done / For you and me! '
14:44 ben_vulpes "half of my advertising budget is wasted, i just don't know which half."
14:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Look who has socks nao https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4ha7p9/butters_too_crazy_to_be_trumpets_call_him_a/
14:58 mircea_popescu i dun get it ?
14:59 mircea_popescu oooo check out gernika hehe
15:02 mircea_popescu i don't get this whole "protesting" bullshit.
15:02 mircea_popescu what happened to "hire security, wait for protesters to come close, beat the shit out of them with a spiked club and piss on the piled up remains" ?
15:03 mircea_popescu this is the historical solution to the mob problem, "if you're in range of the fascia you were protesting too close". wut happened.
15:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only done re orcs. in usaschwitz protesters are part of ecosystem, cultivated to prop up illusion of 'controversy' and 'political process!111'
15:03 asciilifeform and when there are too few,
15:03 asciilifeform they are bussed in.
15:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you have to appreciate, i have absolutely no patience.
15:03 asciilifeform necessary furniture.
15:04 asciilifeform they are part of the orchestra.
15:04 asciilifeform rather than some external pollutant.
15:04 mircea_popescu i'm not gonna fucking sit in a car while whatever shitshow progresses.
15:05 asciilifeform well these weren't pr0t3st1ng around mircea_popescu's castle, were they now.
15:05 asciilifeform they were around a professional huckster's.
15:05 mircea_popescu good choice on their part.
15:05 asciilifeform as invited furniture.
~ 19 minutes ~
15:24 jurov deedbot: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201604.txt.asc
15:26 jurov does this work anymore?
15:26 jurov deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201604.txt.asc
15:26 mircea_popescu i think it's still deedbot-
15:27 deedbot- accepted: 1
15:27 jurov deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160501/attachment.txt
15:27 deedbot- accepted: 1
15:27 mircea_popescu anyway, jurov, im thinking closing f.mpif.
15:27 jurov you haven't decided yet?
15:28 asciilifeform hanbot will need nyoo j0b or wut
15:28 jurov lol i thought it's already done and named it "closing" statemnt
15:28 mircea_popescu jurov well, i dun see how or why it'd be carried.
15:29 mircea_popescu practically, its closing means wiping 235`013 shares and 51.57856632 btc off coinbr account ; minus 0.31561326 btc your reward. that makes sense ?
15:29 jurov yes
15:29 mircea_popescu alrighty.
15:29 jurov oh noo
15:29 mircea_popescu hm ?
15:30 jurov not 51 BTC
15:30 mircea_popescu 2.46x ?
15:30 jurov 2.46084932
15:30 jurov yes, i bought almost everything back
15:30 mircea_popescu cool.
15:31 asciilifeform (unrelatedly, the product of the first million primes weighs less than 3MB !1111?)
15:31 mircea_popescu ima have to review the history of this thing, how did it go, you started with 100k shares and 10 btc then got more shares over time ?
15:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well yes, 3mb is a lot of digits neh.
15:32 jurov mircea_popescu: i started with 50 BTC only
15:32 asciilifeform too many for the lamer gpg format, yes
15:32 jurov no shares
15:32 asciilifeform (it maxes out at 65535 bit)
15:32 asciilifeform 8ball is gonna have to go in the werker
15:32 asciilifeform as specialcase.
15:32 mircea_popescu jurov ah i recall at some point you being short and me adding more ? or no ?
15:33 jurov you bught shares off me once or twice
15:33 mircea_popescu ah right, that's what it was, refinanced you for shares. right.
15:33 mircea_popescu anyway. i'll be re-reading teh statements and issuing a closure for f.mpif.
15:34 mircea_popescu seems so far you're the only PC that made profit huh ? not bad, 20% of the class.
15:35 jurov well, the risk was much lower
15:47 mircea_popescu sure.
~ 45 minutes ~
16:32 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i dun get it ? << /ME guesses a sock of that chick with the lady boner for you
16:34 mircea_popescu wouldn't it be cheaper if she just did my laundry ?
16:43 mircea_popescu in other lulz, https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4h7hqn/the_bitfinex_and_bitstamp_market_maker/ << trilema crits bitfinex for over 9k, bifinex shill pretends to not understand what a crit is and whether >9000 is larger than epsilon or not.
16:44 mircea_popescu this strategy has worked so well in the past ; hopefully it continues in the indefinite future.
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17:02 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
17:02 asciilifeform 185.56.82.82 - - [01/May/2016:21:01:09 +0000] "\x16\x03\x01\x00\xFF\x01\x00\x00\xFB\x03\x03W&Rp\xCBB\x9C\xD6\xF3\xB7\xA9\xCBKLw2\xB6\x12l"
17:02 asciilifeform l33333333333333333333337 1d10tz luuuv
17:08 mircea_popescu is that something ?
17:08 asciilifeform nfi what
17:08 asciilifeform there was another, similar, from same.
17:08 mircea_popescu lotta crud on teh web.
17:09 asciilifeform prolly some webtard 'sploit.
17:11 asciilifeform 185.56.82.82 - - [01/May/2016:21:01:09 +0000] "\x16\x03\x01\x00\xFF\x01\x00\x00\xFB\x03\x03W&Rp9\xCC\xC9>\xBC] <<<<< the other one, for completeness.
17:12 asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/TxiCORM.png << poor kako.
17:13 asciilifeform (via davout)
17:13 davout also ohai
17:14 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2016#1445713 <<< who remembers 2012 anyway
17:15 davout wrong chan, derp
17:24 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-25#1457085 <<< the steering wheel is pretty cool!
17:24 a111 Logged on 2016-04-25 02:32 asciilifeform: in other 'news', http://imgur.com/4nqeK3A << in a museum (hands on right hand side are of pet). one of the machines on exhibit was gettable into
17:26 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-25#1457122 <<< without atc there's pretty much no instrument flying possibru
17:26 a111 Logged on 2016-04-25 02:50 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm quite convinced that the difficulties of air traffic are artificial.
17:37 mircea_popescu "le kg" le lol.
17:40 davout mircea_popescu: i lolled at the champagne towel
17:40 mircea_popescu le quite.
17:41 davout i had nfi "kako de porc" was even a thing
17:43 davout in other news i'm moving to the south of france, i'm absolutely fucking done with living in paris
17:43 mircea_popescu toulouse better ?
17:44 davout i like toulouse a lot, lived there for six years, but i think it's going to be in the country around nimes/montpellier
17:45 davout kinda want to go into hermit mode in an 8 bedroom country house
17:45 mircea_popescu 8 bedroom = you + 14 slavegirls ?
17:46 davout an au pair will probably be an easier sell
17:46 mircea_popescu hence 14. 7 au pairs.
17:46 davout heh
17:46 mircea_popescu :p
17:47 davout i want space, and a nearby airfield
17:47 mircea_popescu anyway. paris sucked ass last i saw it, so myeah.
17:48 davout i don't mind paris for business, but really, it's no place to live in, especially with kids
17:49 davout the only time of the year where it actually is livable is in august, when all parisians are away
17:50 davout otherwise it's either overcrowded subway, or overcrowded road, or risking your life on a motorcycle to ditch the traffic jam
17:50 mircea_popescu this is kinda how "civilised" derps go the world over. "oh i don't mind la for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to SF, 30 years later, "oh, i don't mind sf for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to seattle. then it';s "oh, i don't mind seattle for blabla", move to portlant. next year...
17:51 davout well, the point is not really to change cities, it's to gtfo of them
17:51 mircea_popescu but i like living in a city.
17:51 mircea_popescu i don't like it being a democratic city, is all.
17:51 davout aha
17:52 mircea_popescu livable city = 50% of population is virgin females < 30 in chastity belts, living on 3rd floor 4 to a room and weekly spankings.
17:52 mircea_popescu ie, london cca 1716.
17:53 asciilifeform l0lwut
17:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's called a maid.
17:53 mircea_popescu the old people, and the poor people, can gtfo live in a village near nimes. send the daughter over, will be ok.
17:54 davout meh
17:54 mircea_popescu &boys can gtfo make a name for themselves in the merchant marine or w/e. india.
17:59 davout i like the idea of sending the kids outside to learn from mother nature instead of mother tv, and having the horses around instead of having to suffer a 30km drive to get to ride
~ 1 hours 30 minutes ~
19:30 asciilifeform l0l 8ball gives interesting results in local test
19:30 asciilifeform the folks who have essentially random integers as moduli, spew out plenty of additional factors
19:31 asciilifeform (these show up as large composites, naturally, in the gcdification pairwise with the 8ball)
19:33 mircea_popescu aha
19:33 asciilifeform about to deploy this, in anger.
19:34 asciilifeform 8ball of 1st 1,000,000 primes' primorial.
19:34 asciilifeform for starters.
19:36 asciilifeform 3... 2... 1...
19:36 asciilifeform fire.
19:37 asciilifeform https://archive.is/EJM9s << ftr. moment just before the shot. 210 phucked mods.
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19:48 asciilifeform get ready folx
19:50 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 403313317318821859750535 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Robert J. Hansen; Robert J. Hansen <rjh@sixdemonbag.org>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/308C79ED32BB1D28E5F59EC4ADB2E56B1ED16614D3B4C737238FC3D169AF94B0
19:50 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 182832462865993 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Marcus Benjamin <markymac99@mac.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/709FF94FF727A8490E99459EEC2989C1EB80FE9A03DF0F1DA6911EB4D5497907
19:50 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 2170305244995418399 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Simon Lange <pirat.simon@me.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FC96CBFBF66B4E8996A0960C8B95EC5D1CD4B1A860719C7AEA00B3E06E41CE1B
19:50 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1871 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'The Analog Guy <tag@alpha.c2.org>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/65B890243C97BE24B5089EA8B1F6A3BDA129651C31BD33A106BD44ECD8FD8E95
19:50 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 674958405690847 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Dominik Rapp <dominikrapp@zoho.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A76BF4503AE2C55107D537EDABB05BDFB3DB93A3CAF697C1C5073FDD9EEF8F4E
19:52 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 15840794732765264190181401 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Ismael de Moura Costa (email pessoal) <ismaelcosta@unb.br>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7ED61BA9F1483495BAB2CB60A5C9BE858F5C2B37C9856BDEE024A8C5518EB421
19:52 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 23575449579707350695686745 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Shell Arkell <shell@zenrio.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5377DC3F52C67DB02FB2F4CBC7391DDD471AF66B9AFF37F4A5FB782434DC1748
19:52 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 657289641865783142059 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Thomas Scholz <ts@elktc.org>; Thomas Scholz <dings@bums.li>; Thomas Scholz <tscholz@gmx.de>; Thomas Scholz <tststs@gugux.de>; Thomas Scholz <thomas.scholz@ploenk.net>; Thomas Scholz <tscholz@rz.uni-mannheim.de>; Thomas Scholz <tscholz@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>; Thomas Scholz <thomas.scholz@ca.uni-mannheim.de>; Thomas Scholz <tscholz@wendy.rz.uni-mannheim.de>; Thomas Scholz R
19:52 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1546372910513771 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Henry Irish <henryirish@me.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F85F688E80B2934DEC7F35DA87A8DFF7795B4181042B442F0867E45804B06E01
19:52 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 72420566035941919 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'M_Schmidt Admilon <beta@admilon.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B2F158D6CCA9C940DA0DEA40AC8AEC2D855478DA56A31AE67234354D4C7FBA3D
19:53 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 22930830398683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Jeremy Low <jeremylow@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9F0C6B76725E4056D8B682B97CCB7AF4D9832B538952DE87A6A7F6DAADF8677B
19:53 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 233569718471699769 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Miguel Gonzalez Alvarez <migonzalvar@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FA673BA8BE319CA715DE9889122994D9E1B91BCDECFEB6342BF2B7702D00DD5C
19:53 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 6509 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Cyber-Tom <cyber-tom@mailcity.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AD4C57403CECBEB77262D7BE6F1E4F9925E7A673AA8AA1A5971A1555B67C20AD
19:53 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 281478094093520933679 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Carsten Lenz <carsten.lenz@piraten-ulm.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3E80A6C932C0BCB3D018EB25213D1C5BD3E221289703D0ACA19D593788A802FF
19:53 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 235007 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us; ummanuul@well.sf.ca.us; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/70B3180A25B248F090A74547A31373B2BFB1AE203632D24A26181CE0B0E1D24B
19:54 mircea_popescu o.O
19:54 asciilifeform that aint all
19:54 asciilifeform still jizzzzzzzzzzing
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 13878493307003 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Jeffrey P. Heuer <jheuer@umich.edu>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/396E4E8D37E7075447A206F1D7754CFD9183777C39CD6D8C40189404C05C2A27
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 13000600393 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '*** !!! DONT USE ME !!! (Mantra lost) ***; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/165282C95B75F85D6F34183B1B81B1BD242418AF1DFA83A0C71918B30A0511A6
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 19610292397124469 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Julia Reda <reda.julia@googlemail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1163936137487 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Tobias Michelis <michelis@mi.uni-erlangen.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AA5C25311D1BFAFD266F2A12DD3C1468EF228931255F78A42868CE32662262F3
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 6827145163571310526472467 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@mac.com>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@netbox.com>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <shavital@netvision.net.il>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/193B1475A224970C48CBAEFB676286194E1CB3AA58826D40081DCECD932D612B
19:54 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 20893655 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'addyGIRL <addyGIRL0@safe-mail.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3C16E916A1B9000F42AEA3C5B8543948091513B10CCC520BF05F8AE73C466B3A
19:54 asciilifeform some will be new factors for previously seen mods
19:54 asciilifeform this is normal
19:54 mircea_popescu sweet.
19:55 mircea_popescu first 1mn primes... what's the 1mth prime ?
19:55 asciilifeform 15,485,863
19:56 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 57333518447653 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Heiko <pirat-barnim@piratenbrandenburg.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BDBA5E195E04369D367F70689A62AAC440A171D6ACFC269A2827FE608B2E4393
19:56 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 168608 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Trustcenter_EU <trust@mch.sbs.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE
19:56 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 9788558223833 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Alexander O. Yuriev <DataLink BBS SysOp>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C14086506CCC6046BA3571DC2F7077083686164E0241DFF7DA30ACCA7F7EEE92
19:56 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 83086849 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'simplesecure <simplesecure@verysimple.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/73B5D08E0F43710FC8E04037FFDE987E9C2F648297F9D24CE29D4068A7B86964
19:57 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3723097783 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Sandip Bhattacharya <sandipb@gmail.com>; Sandip Bhattacharya <sandipb@sandipb.net>; Sandip Bhattacharya <sandipb@member.fsf.org>; Sandip Bhattacharya <sandipb@foss-community.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/246A2BA712F793A9ACF5B9170FD8C31F59A4F7E3DFE0C961D6D6A75419995E78
19:57 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 13665696880823521 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Matthias_Schmidt <ms@schmidt-system.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E
19:57 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1118385754444484075 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Leonardo Zillo Monte Xillo <leonardo@zillo.it>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/510AF37CD9BEDC08A601ECFA864E20396412F81214CB415D6F02054540101CDB
19:57 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3207713 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Karen Bender <karen.bender@hotmail.de>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F3345E99D51E56537F74CE146536E40351169B4683A79EE61CC1A5042861E630
19:59 asciilifeform 1414.872s.
19:59 asciilifeform notbad.jpg.
20:01 asciilifeform wait till we do 10mil...
20:03 mircea_popescu this doesn't recurse does it ?
20:03 asciilifeform whatddayamean
20:03 mircea_popescu prime could appear multiple times./
20:03 mircea_popescu $up crayon
20:03 deedbot crayon voiced for 30 minutes.
20:04 asciilifeform doesn't explicitly recurse, no
20:04 asciilifeform but if it appears multiple times, it will show up 1nce.
20:04 asciilifeform and determining remaining timez, exercise for reader.
20:05 mircea_popescu and now it doesn't ping for me.
20:05 asciilifeform it pings, and i have shell open there
20:05 asciilifeform but no www.
20:05 asciilifeform interestingly.
20:06 asciilifeform there it goes.
20:06 mircea_popescu ah now it came
20:06 mircea_popescu aha.
20:06 mircea_popescu Known Shared Factors: 284648957608675 1118385754444484075 << yeah i guess once a modulus starts showing these, readily reduced by intertested reader.
20:07 asciilifeform the wholeFUCKINGreason we are seeing folx with random ints as rsa mods
20:07 asciilifeform is that it is not so difficult to factor these.
20:07 asciilifeform hence somebody 'helped' so kindly, a number of folks, to generate'em.
20:08 asciilifeform https://archive.is/pLVrl << snapshot of current state, ftr.
20:08 asciilifeform ^ use by anybody who sees blackhole etc
20:08 asciilifeform handy to compare with http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460471
20:08 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 23:37 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/EJM9s << ftr. moment just before the shot. 210 phucked mods.
20:10 asciilifeform the next exercise prolly ought to be:
20:10 asciilifeform to search for the idiocy where a diddled or simpleminded pgptron wants to generate an n-bit key, and so it craps out a n/2-bit prime and then gets next prime after it and multiplies.
20:11 mircea_popescu overengineered.
20:11 asciilifeform nah
20:11 asciilifeform this exists.
20:11 asciilifeform known, in the wild.
20:11 mircea_popescu o.O
20:11 asciilifeform factorable in ~constant time.
20:11 mircea_popescu still, low priority-sh
20:12 asciilifeform i think this is where we got that ti key.
20:17 asciilifeform and remember folx, this Definitely Never Happened!111 (TM) (R)
20:18 asciilifeform any of it.
20:20 mircea_popescu dun dun dun.
20:23 asciilifeform witness the silence from the 'kompyoooter insekoooority' komyooniti.
20:23 asciilifeform 'nobody uses pgp.'
20:23 asciilifeform 'and if they did, nobody broke a key'
20:23 asciilifeform 'and if someone broke, it didn't really happen'
20:23 asciilifeform 'and this here german chick did it in 2010'
20:24 mircea_popescu eh fuck em. what community.
20:24 mircea_popescu there's millions of them buzzing and the miracle of the first secure computer has yet to be seen.
20:29 asciilifeform self-licking icecream cone.
20:29 asciilifeform this 'community.'
20:35 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4hcvvi/200_pgp_keys_and_counting_publicly_broken << fwiw.
20:35 asciilifeform betcha it'll vanish within the hour.
20:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lulzy, a good bit of traffic, but rating permanently welded at '1'
20:47 asciilifeform or hm, i have nfi.
20:56 asciilifeform kinda lulzy, it was on frontpage for a few min, looks like, then manually (!) lowered into latrine
20:56 asciilifeform (700+)
20:57 asciilifeform $up Birdman
20:57 deedbot Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
20:58 Birdman Hello, im just here to read
20:58 asciilifeform where'd ya come from, Birdman ?
20:58 Birdman Fellow eulorian, was around b-a sometimes too
20:58 asciilifeform ah. have fun
21:02 mircea_popescu alf is cute when excited :)
21:02 asciilifeform lel
21:02 asciilifeform mostly a snoar so far.
~ 30 minutes ~
21:33 asciilifeform "GET /humans.txt HTTP/1.1" << l0l
21:46 deedbot [Qntra] No Such lAbs Phuctoring Harder Than Ever - http://qntra.net/2016/05/no-such-labs-phuctoring-harder-than-ever/
21:56 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
21:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 451.39, vol: 1220.84749747 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 448.293, vol: 2216.06661 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 451.47, vol: 4174.91672794 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 454.97, vol: 0.15 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 454.253625, vol: 16098.60880000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 451.95, vol: 308.9699291 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 451.4452, vol: 7.0300301 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
21:57 BingoBoingo ;;more
21:57 gribble 453.044215707
~ 41 minutes ~
22:38 asciilifeform http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/10/loungec << lel, phuctor
~ 21 minutes ~
23:00 mircea_popescu check that out, stackoverflow got this datamining of users down to a fine art huh.
23:00 mircea_popescu http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/10/loungec etc
23:01 mircea_popescu it's not even irc, what is it, some sort of java thing ?
23:05 asciilifeform nfi
23:06 asciilifeform some lamerism.
23:06 asciilifeform getting reddit folk at 2-3/sec.
23:06 asciilifeform fatlottagood they do.
23:06 asciilifeform a few submitted keyz, so not wholly waste of bw.
23:06 mircea_popescu at this rate you'll end up a traffic analytics expert :D
23:07 asciilifeform lelxpert
23:07 mircea_popescu hey, one of the best natural cocksuckers i ever encountered was a that-expert.
23:08 mircea_popescu i think her mommy had her with a constrictor snake and she had a square bone in her neck.
23:08 asciilifeform seo?!
23:08 mircea_popescu nononono, traffic ANALYTICS!!1
23:08 mircea_popescu very different expertise.
23:10 asciilifeform l0l!
23:11 BingoBoingo Opposite expertises
~ 15 minutes ~
23:27 ben_vulpes square?
23:41 BingoBoingo DiaperCube(TM)(R)
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