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00:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that is like... and obama will order the atmosphere to lie and pretend it's global cooling.
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00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97000 @ 0.00075459 = 73.1952 BTC [-] {7}
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38500 @ 0.00075364 = 29.0151 BTC [-]
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00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78950 @ 0.00075346 = 59.4857 BTC [-] {3}
00:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85848 @ 0.00075233 = 64.586 BTC [-] {6}
00:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81219 @ 0.00075387 = 61.2286 BTC [+]
00:52 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
00:53 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 230.44, vol: 13136.25424796 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 228.579, vol: 6338.32943 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 231.33, vol: 6766.353474 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 240.0, vol: 0.93656349 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 233.274648, vol: 15104.36090000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 231.6241, vol: 107.81899539 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 230.39788235, vol: 58.66011549 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
00:53 BingoBoingo ;;more
00:53 gribble 231.335535801
00:59 asciilifeform ;;isup trilema.com
00:59 gribble trilema.com is up
00:59 asciilifeform odd.
01:00 asciilifeform dead from here.
01:00 asciilifeform ;;isup qntra.net
01:00 gribble qntra.net is up
01:00 asciilifeform ditto
01:00 asciilifeform ?...
01:00 BingoBoingo ^
01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00075387 = 22.6161 BTC [+]
01:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32798 @ 0.00075154 = 24.649 BTC [-] {2}
01:17 mats dns is fucky on this end
01:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185988 @ 0.0007501 = 139.5096 BTC [-] {7}
01:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65626 @ 0.00074864 = 49.1302 BTC [-]
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37050 @ 0.00074864 = 27.7371 BTC [-]
01:44 pete_dushenski "Jaguar is installing brainwave sensors adapted from NASA into the steering wheel of an XJ sedan, along with medical-grade heart and respiratory sensors in the seat. Together, the sensors would determine if the driver is focused on the road, dozing off, merely thinking about something else, or if the driver's stress level suddenly peaks."
01:45 pete_dushenski there are too many lulz in the auto space today. what is it, christmas ?
01:46 pete_dushenski now imagine that your car or your phone or your computer shuts down for no apparent reason because it 'detected' that you were drowsy and that it wasn't 'safe' for you to continue operation
01:47 pete_dushenski fuck, your coffee maker could do the same. wouldn't that be ironic.
01:48 pete_dushenski and really, if your jag can tell that you're thinking about little boys, what's it gonna do, load up fresh gps coordinates and aim you at the nearest bible school to cleanse you of your sins ? (or provide a means of satisfying your earthly urges?)
01:49 pete_dushenski honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ?
01:50 pete_dushenski if you can't think about the meeting you're driving to AND merge lanes, you're too dumb to be on the road.
01:50 pete_dushenski go take an uber
01:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112900 @ 0.00074864 = 84.5215 BTC [-]
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02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52242 @ 0.00075614 = 39.5023 BTC [+] {3}
02:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48386 @ 0.00075981 = 36.7642 BTC [+] {3}
02:19 punkman http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece
02:19 assbot Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school: 'So you tried to make a bomb?' | Dallas Morning News ... ( http://bit.ly/1QEZNv9 )
02:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89717 @ 0.00074845 = 67.1487 BTC [-] {4}
02:32 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMsYBp8WgAAxFGi.jpg:large :D
02:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QF0S6m )
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35608 @ 0.00076012 = 27.0664 BTC [+]
02:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50250 @ 0.00074804 = 37.589 BTC [-] {3}
02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151143 @ 0.00076021 = 114.9004 BTC [+] {3}
02:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38500 @ 0.00074765 = 28.7845 BTC [-] {2}
03:04 punkman http://www.pcworld.com/article/2983015/hardware/xerox-parcs-new-chip-will-self-destruct-in-10-seconds.html
03:05 assbot Xerox PARC's new chip will self destruct in 10 seconds | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1iNX7jD )
03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191800 @ 0.00074699 = 143.2727 BTC [-] {3}
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.00074643 = 39.4488 BTC [-] {3}
03:26 copypaste hello, is trilema.com down for anyone else?
03:26 copypaste i receive SERVERROR from DNS
03:26 copypaste both my ISP DNS and 8.8.8.8
03:27 punkman copypaste: there was a ddos going on
03:27 copypaste http://pastie.org/10422989
03:27 assbot #10422989 - Pastie ... ( http://bit.ly/1gq3KGW )
03:27 copypaste why would DDoS invalidate A record?
03:27 copypaste i guess maybe if Mircea unset the A record to try to stop the attack, but if the attacker already knows the target IP that won't help.
03:28 copypaste anyway, thank you :) i'll waiting until it comes back. good to know it isn's tjust me.
03:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69151 @ 0.00075744 = 52.3777 BTC [+] {3}
03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44300 @ 0.00074593 = 33.0447 BTC [-]
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04:06 punkman http://fusion.net/story/191773/i-created-a-fake-business-and-fooled-thousands-of-people-into-thinking-it-was-real/
04:06 assbot I created a fake business and bought it an amazing online reputation | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1iuYhRd )
04:07 punkman "Now that I’ve seen the Internet’s deception marketplace, it’s going to haunt me. When I see a review online, unless it’s written by someone I know and trust, I’m always going to be wondering whether I’m looking at a review from a satisfied customer or an undercover paid promoter."
04:20 thestringpuller Web of Trust based comments. This is probably why Facebook reviews are so highly sought by businesses.
04:22 thestringpuller LO FUCKING L https://www.bigblockbounty.com/
04:22 thestringpuller this shit is better than a presedential election
04:27 punkman http://www.unknownfieldsdivision.com/projects.html lots of cool pictures here
04:27 assbot Unknown Fields Division - Projects ... ( http://bit.ly/1iv0lIU )
04:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30993 @ 0.0007517 = 23.2974 BTC [+]
04:45 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276137 <<< reading this, it so smacks of desperation yet the author still has the delusion that bip101 is going to do a 360 and become standard.
04:45 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 08:22:52; thestringpuller: LO FUCKING L https://www.bigblockbounty.com/
04:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00075128 = 30.8776 BTC [-]
04:50 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276070 <<< Ppl that do this are just nasty, it is quite common here yes. Usually the owner of said vehicle is obese, and a Evangelical Christian.
04:50 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 03:55:59; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that it can be seen on EVERY PARKING LOT
04:50 shinohai Somewhere in the Bible it must say "Thou shalt not empty the trash from thy vehicle or thy living space. Thus saith the Lord."
04:51 * punkman has never seen trashcan-car
04:51 shinohai It's one of my peevs
04:52 shinohai Just because you are poor doesn't mean you have to live like a fucking animal.
04:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128450 @ 0.00075097 = 96.4621 BTC [-] {2}
04:55 shinohai I often wonder if it is evolution's way of pulling life-forms back in to the primordial soup from whence it came for recycling.
04:57 thestringpuller punkman: "trashcan-car" << i like it.
05:00 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ? << I have always had sleep problems. As a kid would always fall asleep on car rides. And as an adult I seem to regularly fall asleep at the wheel and still get home. But this is super dangerous. I really need to just pull over and nap for a second or red bull it up like a trucker would do...
05:01 thestringpuller asciilifeform: qntra.net is down for me too. can anyone in US reach it?
05:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.0007517 = 51.529 BTC [+]
05:13 shinohai I can't reach qntra
05:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83800 @ 0.00075263 = 63.0704 BTC [+] {3}
05:14 shinohai ;;isup qntra.net
05:15 gribble qntra.net is up
05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48558 @ 0.00075303 = 36.5656 BTC [+] {3}
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05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54480 @ 0.00075077 = 40.9019 BTC [-]
05:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0007506 = 2.8523 BTC [-] {3}
05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36700 @ 0.00075731 = 27.7933 BTC [+]
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9508 @ 0.00074972 = 7.1283 BTC [-]
05:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149250 @ 0.0007471 = 111.5047 BTC [-] {6}
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00075743 = 25.3739 BTC [+] {3}
06:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90550 @ 0.00074433 = 67.3991 BTC [-] {5}
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06:26 shinohai ;;later tell asciilifeform are there any realbtc nodes up? (assuming i don't resolve before you respond)
06:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
06:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.0007575 = 5.5676 BTC [+]
06:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.0007575 = 40.6778 BTC [+]
06:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121450 @ 0.00075753 = 92.002 BTC [+] {3}
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53977 @ 0.0007433 = 40.1211 BTC [-] {4}
06:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21573 @ 0.00074301 = 16.029 BTC [-]
06:52 danielpbarron shinohai, mine's up to block 346519
06:55 shinohai danielpbarron: may I connect to urs ?
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73800 @ 0.00075563 = 55.7655 BTC [+]
07:08 danielpbarron shinohai, ya
07:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00075755 = 11.0602 BTC [+]
07:11 shinohai pm ip pl0x?
07:16 danielpbarron just whois me
07:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00075563 = 16.6616 BTC [-]
07:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28134 @ 0.00075313 = 21.1886 BTC [-] {3}
07:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88686 @ 0.00074271 = 65.868 BTC [-] {4}
07:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00075728 = 14.464 BTC [+]
07:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00074487 = 37.2435 BTC [-]
08:01 shinohai ok had to reboot danielpbarron but connected
08:01 shinohai thx
08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111400 @ 0.00074272 = 82.739 BTC [-] {3}
08:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2825 @ 0.00074505 = 2.1048 BTC [+] {2}
08:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68975 @ 0.00075201 = 51.8699 BTC [+]
08:19 punkman https://twitter.com/Zerodium "Our price range for 0days we acquired so far: Mobile $100K, Browsers $50K-30K+Sandbx/Krnl $50K-30K, Flash $45K-25K, Office $40K-25K, Java $0"
08:19 assbot Zerodium (@Zerodium) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1ivsTlI )
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08:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42679 @ 0.00074174 = 31.6567 BTC [-] {3}
08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54450 @ 0.00074881 = 40.7727 BTC [+]
08:48 mod6 i've got 374802
08:48 mod6 ;;bc,stats
08:48 gribble Current Blocks: 374802 | Current Difficulty: 5.695764845501001E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 374975 | Next Difficulty In: 173 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
08:49 punkman mod6: falling behind?
08:49 mod6 this one has been up to date everytime I've checked it. like 1x per day.
08:49 mod6 never an issue.
08:50 punkman except today?
08:50 punkman ah never mind, misread numbers
08:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25510 @ 0.00074881 = 19.1021 BTC [+]
08:50 mod6 np
08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55519 @ 0.0007502 = 41.6504 BTC [+] {3}
08:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40381 @ 0.00075608 = 30.5313 BTC [+]
08:58 punkman http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-and-indonesia-begin-cloud-seeding-to-fight-haze-how-cloud-seeding-works
08:58 assbot Malaysia and Indonesia begin cloud seeding to fight haze: How cloud seeding works, SE Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lgyyqw )
09:04 shinohai mod6: mine finally connected to dpb after a few hiccups
09:04 shinohai I have this weird bug that if I add or change ip's I have to reboot.
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51500 @ 0.00075038 = 38.6446 BTC [-] {3}
09:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00074174 = 36.1227 BTC [-] {2}
09:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82285 @ 0.00075755 = 62.335 BTC [+]
09:22 punkman "Cryptome and JY use a slew of PKs and IDs other than those compromised. Many one-time. For mutual protection, to expire, isolate, expunge." "Few of Cryptome and JY PKs are on manipulable key servers. And none via transgressable WoT or cryptoparty. More signs cloak imposters."
09:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 212300 @ 0.00074129 = 157.3759 BTC [-] {6}
09:29 punkman "very interested to see what details (if any) emerge from @cryptomeorg regarding its supposed key compromise." Answer: "Suspects: Truecrypt, SCS in DC, PGP flaw, all the other usuals."
09:36 Azelphur Gotta love Korean Engrish eBay sellers "Hello, I'd like to buy 4 of your monitors, give me a discount" "Ok, I'll do them for $530.90" *Submits offer of $530.90* *eBay seller submits counter offer of $575*
09:38 punkman Azelphur: what does $500 get you from korea these days?
09:38 Azelphur 40" 4k
09:39 punkman what resolution is that?
09:39 Azelphur 3840 X 2160
09:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6565 @ 0.00075755 = 4.9733 BTC [+] {2}
09:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 277542 @ 0.00075317 = 209.0363 BTC [-] {8}
09:43 punkman https://zmap.io/synful/
09:43 assbot In Search of SYNful Routers ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ow6hNO )
09:50 kakobrekla punkman i do not recommend those slightly-cheaper-way-worse screens at all.
09:51 punkman kakobrekla: I'd have bought some of the cheap 27" korean monitors but I'd get fucked at customs, so not yet
09:51 kakobrekla i bought five of those you speak
09:51 kakobrekla gave them away and bought five dells
09:52 punkman Dell is not slightly more expensive though, was double the price last time I checked
09:52 kakobrekla i ended up paying 50-100 more per screen at the end of the day.
09:53 mod6 asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et. al: check it out, I also now have added who has signed which vpatch on-mouseover to http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html
09:53 assbot V_GRAPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp )
09:53 kakobrekla and the difference is night and day, incomparable.
09:54 punkman mod6, can you also fit in some filenames on the edges of the graph?
09:54 mod6 shinohai: ok cool!
09:54 kakobrekla punkman also later on i mange to fuck up two screens somehow (suspekt faulty dp cable) and i called in support, they delivered new ones without questions.
09:54 mod6 punkman: what file names? for the sigs?
09:54 punkman mod6: filenames from the patches
09:55 kakobrekla meanwhile one of the korean screens came bent
09:55 mod6 OH. i think what you're looking for is this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/v-tree-svg.html
09:55 assbot Untitled graph ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ow7BAd )
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00076306 = 14.9056 BTC [+]
09:56 mod6 or is that not what you mean? i wanna keep the vpatch-nodes as uncluttered as possible.
09:56 kakobrekla perhaps 'curved' is a better term.
09:56 punkman mod6, yeah but they don't need to be separate nodes
09:57 mod6 right, but you mean the actual changed filenames.
09:57 punkman maybe it could appear when you mouse over an edge, the files a patch "inherits" from a previous patch
09:57 mod6 hmm. i'll think on it a bit. if i can make it happen with a mouse over that'd be ideal. i just don't want a static label though, because then it'd be too hard to read.
09:58 mod6 <+punkman> maybe it could appear when you mouse over an edge, the files a patch "inherits" from a previous patch << exactly this
09:58 punkman if you can put a single character label on the edges, that'd work out
09:59 punkman kakobrekla: perhaps 'curved' is a better term. << free upgrade :P
10:00 kakobrekla not really the back light was all fucked
10:00 kakobrekla because of that.
10:02 punkman http://www.infowars.com/germany-austria-close-borders-schengen-agreement-under-pressure-will-war-emerge/ << some friends were passing through germany yesterday, had to spend like 5 hours near the border
10:02 assbot » Germany & Austria Close Borders — Schengen Agreement Under Pressure — Will War Emerge? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmOe6A )
10:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42950 @ 0.00075114 = 32.2615 BTC [-]
10:04 kakobrekla here i was doing a comparison for korean cockroaches - bleeding fail: http://i.imgur.com/82Z88Nv.jpg
10:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmOh2h )
10:04 kakobrekla and it was 'acceptable' for a day or two. i found out many more problems than this.
10:04 Azelphur kakobrekla: these monitors are nuts quality wise, you know tek syndicate?
10:04 kakobrekla nfi what that is
10:05 Azelphur kakobrekla: fairly well known youtube tech channel, reviews, linux stuff, etc
10:05 kakobrekla people were 'thrilled' about qnix back then too
10:05 kakobrekla utter garbage
10:05 Azelphur kakobrekla: summary from tek syndicate, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o553bTyFElQ&t=8m30s :)
10:05 assbot Affordable 39" 4k Gaming Monitor - The AMH A399U - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ow8AAy )
10:05 kakobrekla MAYBE you can get away if you use a single monitor and get lucky
10:06 kakobrekla i have a color calibrator and i couldnt get these to sync color no matter what i did
10:06 Azelphur kakobrekla: amusingly I actually have 4 of the Matrix (Very similar to the QNIX) right now
10:06 kakobrekla i hooked up 5 dells, they were all same.
10:07 kakobrekla such garbage i felt bad selling them , so i just gave them away for free.
10:07 Azelphur I'm selling mine lol, should net about £600 for my current four
10:07 kakobrekla this way a year or more ago i think.
10:07 * Azelphur shrugs
10:07 Azelphur yea I mean I already have people lined up to take mine off my hands
10:08 Azelphur so much so I think there will be a bidding war, haven't even posted it on eBay but I have 3 people wanting to buy a total of 6 monitors >.<
10:14 kakobrekla punkman - upgrade : http://imgur.com/FxpoZEB
10:14 assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ow9wVp )
10:17 thestringpuller Azelphur old friend.
10:18 * Azelphur waves
10:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39184 @ 0.00075114 = 29.4327 BTC [-]
10:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00074716 = 28.6162 BTC [-] {2}
10:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15532 @ 0.00075114 = 11.6667 BTC [+]
10:28 thestringpuller I really liked when you helped me buy that raspberry pi
10:28 thestringpuller use that a lot now
10:28 thestringpuller 3.4 BTC XD
10:29 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276216 << link ??
10:29 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:22:37; punkman: "Cryptome and JY use a slew of PKs and IDs other than those compromised. Many one-time. For mutual protection, to expire, isolate, expunge." "Few of Cryptome and JY PKs are on manipulable key servers. And none via transgressable WoT or cryptoparty. More signs cloak imposters."
10:30 punkman asciilifeform: from cryptome twitter
10:30 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276169 << zoolag is up, and mircea_popescu's node is (last i checked) up
10:30 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 10:26:36; shinohai: ;;later tell asciilifeform are there any realbtc nodes up? (assuming i don't resolve before you respond)
10:36 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276193 << scan until proven otherwise.
10:36 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 12:19:29; punkman: https://twitter.com/Zerodium "Our price range for 0days we acquired so far: Mobile $100K, Browsers $50K-30K+Sandbx/Krnl $50K-30K, Flash $45K-25K, Office $40K-25K, Java $0"
10:36 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276193 << *scam until proven otherwise.
10:36 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 12:19:29; punkman: https://twitter.com/Zerodium "Our price range for 0days we acquired so far: Mobile $100K, Browsers $50K-30K+Sandbx/Krnl $50K-30K, Flash $45K-25K, Office $40K-25K, Java $0"
10:36 asciilifeform and the proof is an impossibility.
10:36 asciilifeform hence, snore.
10:38 shinohai thx
10:38 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276242 << THIS is why i only buy 'eizo' panels.
10:38 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:55:14; kakobrekla: meanwhile one of the korean screens came bent
10:39 asciilifeform the only two makers of lcd that i ever saw making anything other than disposable garbage are eizo and barco.
10:39 asciilifeform everything else, regardless of price, makes my eyes bleed.
10:44 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276234 << here's an idea: why not make the 'signed by' mouseover appear over the ~arrows~, while files-changed appears when mousing over the nodes.
10:44 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:53:26; mod6: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et. al: check it out, I also now have added who has signed which vpatch on-mouseover to http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html
10:45 asciilifeform the only other change i'd make is to have leaf nodes glued to the top of the graph
10:46 asciilifeform (asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch for instance is buried in the middle, but it is a leaf)
10:46 asciilifeform belongs side by side with asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
10:46 kakobrekla the screen being bent is not a common problem
10:47 kakobrekla the screen being shit (and electronics in it) is.
10:47 mod6 right. ok good point asciilifeform
10:47 asciilifeform kakobrekla: those panels look like shit even when virginal
10:47 asciilifeform ~and~ tend to have 30Hz refresh
10:47 mod6 so as far as the signed by.. i felt like it made more since to go along with the text in the node. instead of the edge, but maybe im wrong there.
10:47 mod6 i'll see what I can do.
10:48 asciilifeform files-changed could just as well go in the arrow's mouseover
10:48 kakobrekla asciilifeform correct, so i guess the bent thing isnt really why you buy 'eizo' only :)
10:48 kakobrekla anyway, forget it.
10:49 mod6 <+asciilifeform> files-changed could just as well go in the arrow's mouseover << ok, i just got this working. pretty much the same layout as it is when you check descendents explicitly.
10:51 asciilifeform http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/15/paypal-quietly-re-enters-online-gaming.html << l0ltr0nic
10:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRRTjn )
10:51 asciilifeform mod6: neato
10:53 asciilifeform http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-15/why-hewlett-packard-just-fired-another-30000 << usg burns a bit of furniture
10:53 assbot This Is Why Hewlett-Packard Just Fired Another 30,000 | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRRZHI )
10:55 mircea_popescu heh. lemme guess, that fiorina chick did such an amazing woman job the company's fucked now.
10:55 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
10:55 asciilifeform mod6: i only see one filename in the arrow mouseovers
10:55 mod6 yeah, thats atm. i haven't updated it yet.
10:55 asciilifeform ah
10:56 asciilifeform ;;isup trilema.com
10:56 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276103 << they can, therefore they must.
10:56 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 05:49:57; pete_dushenski: honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ?
10:56 gribble trilema.com is up
10:57 asciilifeform 'isup' officially worthless
10:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what did you think ddos meant ?
10:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idk, let's see the chart ?
10:58 mircea_popescu which chart ?
10:58 asciilifeform bw/time
10:59 mircea_popescu idk, who even cares anymore. over 10, prolly under 100
10:59 asciilifeform ddos artist can saturate arbitrary pipe for less than it costs usg to house one prisoner.
11:00 mircea_popescu prolly.
11:01 asciilifeform which is why the days of items hosted on just one box and handed out to the beoble just for the asking, are numbered.
11:01 asciilifeform at least with respect to us.
11:02 asciilifeform the way it oughta work is, knock on one of 10,001 doors with signed packet, then get to talk. not before, and not otherwise.
11:02 mircea_popescu yes yes they are numbered.
11:02 mircea_popescu now what ?
11:02 shinohai ;;isup qntra.net
11:02 gribble qntra.net is up
11:03 shinohai kek
11:03 asciilifeform how does that thing work anyway
11:03 punkman it doesn't work
11:03 asciilifeform no shit
11:03 mircea_popescu afaik it calls "down for everyone" or w/e it was
11:04 mircea_popescu http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/qntra.net
11:04 mircea_popescu apparently not.
11:04 mircea_popescu maybe it just calls "echo $x is up" lol
11:04 asciilifeform 'Donate to help refugees and migrants in urgent need. We'll match your donation.' << google.
11:05 mircea_popescu ....
11:06 asciilifeform egregious public masturbation by usg
11:06 mircea_popescu wtf is google, the employer of syria and you're their parents and let's make an employee roth ira ?!
11:07 mod6 asciilifeform: anyway, the last edge isn't cooperating hehe. I'll have to mess around with this later, I'll let you all know when there is another update.
11:07 kakobrekla gribble timeouts after 5 sec, isup.me doesnt resolve qntra for longer than that
11:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276129 << i wasn't giving a shit then, either, for one thing. for the other ;; ANSWER SECTION: qntra.net.0INA188.68.240.165 so i dunno, maybe dns sucked then ? no idea.
11:08 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 07:27:54; copypaste: i guess maybe if Mircea unset the A record to try to stop the attack, but if the attacker already knows the target IP that won't help.
11:10 mircea_popescu but it occurs to me mebbe i should get a box with the dudes hosting this guy.
11:10 mircea_popescu copypaste who was it again ?
11:10 shinohai ^_________________^
11:10 mircea_popescu shinohai it won
11:10 shinohai it?
11:10 mircea_popescu t, conceivably, do anything about ddos. but i was looking for a place to host nsa if you recall.
11:11 shinohai Oh yes, poor phuctor is still down :(
11:12 asciilifeform shinohai: it presently has no home.
11:13 mircea_popescu "If the reward isn't earned by 2016-02-11 00:00:00 UTC, it will be split evenly between NoiseTor and OpenBazaar."
11:13 mircea_popescu bwahaha gtfo. stupid ass scams.
11:13 shinohai I know, my rss feed stopped working and I saw you discussing it.
11:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276142 << it's the ONLY retarded soup they got fed in school.
11:14 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 08:45:48; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276137 <<< reading this, it so smacks of desperation yet the author still has the delusion that bip101 is going to do a 360 and become standard.
11:15 mircea_popescu cinderella gotta win because she was indicated by the scriptwriter as the good thing. he has this mental ability, to watch reality like it were hollywood fiction, and identify what the script writer means
11:15 mircea_popescu american genre savvy for a cold, cold world THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW ITSELF WORKS!!11
11:15 mircea_popescu but dontcha mind it little girl, do something stupid and google will match it!
11:16 mircea_popescu after all, that's what they've been doing throughout your life so far! you ask something dumb in the box, it pretends like it's a question and it pretrends like it has answers.
11:16 mircea_popescu selected! just for you!
11:17 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276367 << which ?
11:17 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 15:10:00; mircea_popescu: but it occurs to me mebbe i should get a box with the dudes hosting this guy.
11:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276150 << you got it backwards. being a fucking animal DOES mean you must be poor. because poverty is earned.
11:17 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 08:52:26; shinohai: Just because you are poor doesn't mean you have to live like a fucking animal.
11:17 mircea_popescu people keep going on about how riches aren't, at least some of the time, earned. big fucking whoop.
11:17 mircea_popescu the issue is, poverty is always earned.
11:17 mircea_popescu and it's hard fucking work being that fucking dumb.
11:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform copypaste fellow, runs that chan thing
11:18 asciilifeform ah
11:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the funny part is that i know folks who are not in any usual sense poor (as in, lacking for money) with car like that.
11:19 mircea_popescu sure, unrelated concerns
11:19 asciilifeform u.s. folk tend to spend astonishing amounts of time in their cars, and they begin to resemble their usual dwellings
11:20 * mircea_popescu looks around
11:20 asciilifeform while the traditional path to bumhood nearly always involves a stage of 'live in your car'
11:20 mircea_popescu nope, no food containers. because... my food doesn't come in containers.
11:20 * asciilifeform ditto
11:20 mircea_popescu dude wtf does that mean, "live in your car".
11:20 mircea_popescu like, where's the shower, in your car.
11:20 mircea_popescu where's the kitchen, in your car.
11:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it means that a fella who went flat broke will sell his house, his clothes, and only lastly the car.
11:21 lobbes no need for showers when bum
11:21 asciilifeform kitchen ahahahahahaha
11:21 mircea_popescu are these men so utterly sexed they "live" where they sleep, because they always sleep "at home" ?
11:22 asciilifeform as described by orlov, even; the reason why the car is sold last of all is that without it, no money.
11:22 asciilifeform as in, no possibility of earning a wage
11:22 asciilifeform for typical schmuck
11:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276193 << heh. i wonder if microsoft matches that.
11:22 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 12:19:29; punkman: https://twitter.com/Zerodium "Our price range for 0days we acquired so far: Mobile $100K, Browsers $50K-30K+Sandbx/Krnl $50K-30K, Flash $45K-25K, Office $40K-25K, Java $0"
11:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno who'd hire that.
11:22 asciilifeform Sellbrooklynbridgeodium
11:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who'd hire what? a hobo? plenty of folks, so long as he finds a place he can sneak into and wash
11:23 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276216 << none of this reads credible, ftr.
11:23 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:22:37; punkman: "Cryptome and JY use a slew of PKs and IDs other than those compromised. Many one-time. For mutual protection, to expire, isolate, expunge." "Few of Cryptome and JY PKs are on manipulable key servers. And none via transgressable WoT or cryptoparty. More signs cloak imposters."
11:24 asciilifeform it actually reads very much like j.y.'s drivel on crypto ml
11:24 punkman mircea_popescu: I'm sure meta-JY doesn't even use PGP for windows
11:24 mircea_popescu ikr?
11:24 mircea_popescu in an excel spreadsheet.
11:25 mircea_popescu "transgressable WoT" ? da fuck is that even supposed to be.
11:25 punkman maybe he meant traversable
11:25 mircea_popescu maybe he meant his mother's half price till xmas.
11:26 thestringpuller http://dpaste.com/0TMHA7C.txt << #bitcoinxt stupid
11:26 thestringpuller person claims Coinbase et. al will use consumer deposits to finance their side of the hard fork war
11:26 thestringpuller scandalous as shit.
11:27 mircea_popescu you know, this "fiction as reality/reality as fiction" approach fits the usian behaviour remarkably well. they "feel bad for animals" because they think the superset of "animals" is in a disnety cartoon / the guy in a suit at disney world. as above, the lost XT imbecile imagines he has identified in a putative script of an imaginary film of reality the chekov gun, and so therefore, economy of means, bip 101 necessarily
11:27 mircea_popescu will happen because things can't just go to waste (in fiction - nevermind that in reality 99% of everything exists as waste and that includes his entire existence)
11:27 mircea_popescu these schmucks doing "op security" like it is a sort of literotica novella, you know, "transgressable WoT". what, is it not a word ?
11:28 mircea_popescu it's a word! it's in a book! all is well!
11:28 asciilifeform 11:15 < thestringpuller> Users didn't sign up to have their coins sold on the open market to finance a war...
11:28 asciilifeform 11:15 < Aquentin> dude, they a proxy for the users
11:28 asciilifeform 11:15 < Aquentin> and the users support bip101, some 80%... so saying bitpay or coinbase is a shortcut for saying users would...
11:28 asciilifeform ^ gold.
11:28 mircea_popescu hey, it's how usg works!
11:28 asciilifeform how else.
11:29 mircea_popescu i have little doubt this is exactly what they'd do
11:29 mircea_popescu fortunately nobody uses them.
11:29 mircea_popescu (actually, for all you know aquentin fellow got this brilliant idea by reading teh logs, im pretty sure it was discussed coupla months back)
11:29 asciilifeform more than once.
11:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276218 << i am still "very interested" to hear the details that emerge from the "thorough investigation" Freenode promised back the first time imbecile usg tried to disrupt b-a.
11:30 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:29:47; punkman: "very interested to see what details (if any) emerge from @cryptomeorg regarding its supposed key compromise." Answer: "Suspects: Truecrypt, SCS in DC, PGP flaw, all the other usuals."
11:30 asciilifeform standard buterin's waterfall.
11:30 punkman asciilifeform: any clue what "SCS in DC" might be?
11:31 mircea_popescu speshul comm services ?
11:31 asciilifeform 'special collections service'
11:32 punkman butts https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPBXTsSWwAAmbX7.jpg:large
11:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Of2Mfs )
11:32 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you once said bitcoin will get rid of the stupid by pushing the 99% of garbage and waste so far underground we don't have to deal with it. Can this happen sooner plz?
11:33 mircea_popescu no. this is how it looks.
11:33 mircea_popescu they sit around agreeing with each other on reddit. that is what it is.
11:34 thestringpuller ah. i recall on trilema (which i can't access right now due to DDOS or something), the bitcoiner's press guide: "Ignore them, they don't matter." Guess this applies to the garbage as well.
11:35 mircea_popescu well you know, you wanna im with derps, you get what they got. if you didn't want any, talk to someone else.
11:35 asciilifeform thestringpuller: the annoying thing is that this will need to happen, apparently, at the packet level.
11:35 asciilifeform thestringpuller: and a bit sooner than expected.
11:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276223 << in argentina the same 500 (in their estimation) gets you 15" 1.4k.
11:35 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:39:41; Azelphur: 3840 X 2160
11:36 mircea_popescu socialist implementation of "respeto por el trabajador"
11:36 asciilifeform actually that korean piece of shit is ~the~ implementation of 'respeto por el trabajador'
11:36 asciilifeform i'd take a 1993 vga crt over it.
11:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170811 @ 0.00076519 = 130.7029 BTC [+] {8}
11:37 mircea_popescu o.O
11:37 asciilifeform with lcd panels, as everything else, nobody cancelled the old adage 'tanstaafl'
11:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276234 << shit now i gotta change my browser. svg fails to render ;/
11:38 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:53:26; mod6: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et. al: check it out, I also now have added who has signed which vpatch on-mouseover to http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html
11:38 asciilifeform (pronounce like Schutzstaffel !)
11:39 mod6 oh dang, mircea_popescu. and it did render before?
11:39 mircea_popescu nah.
11:39 asciilifeform sorta why i liked the ascii art one
11:39 mircea_popescu i was trying to not care before.
11:39 mod6 oh
11:40 mod6 yeah, i see what you mean.
11:41 mod6 i'll see what I can do about getting a ascii one generated too.
11:41 mircea_popescu anyway, looks great on firefox.
11:41 mircea_popescu nah, dun bother.
11:41 mircea_popescu svg gotta work that's all there is to it. ima see what i can possibly do.
11:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276260 << don't those stupid ass power leds bother you ?
11:42 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 14:04:04; kakobrekla: here i was doing a comparison for korean cockroaches - bleeding fail: http://i.imgur.com/82Z88Nv.jpg
11:42 asciilifeform i turn mine off.
11:42 mircea_popescu they got those things to where they came right off a tanning bed by now, i gotta run around with ductape and put TWELVE LAYERS on everything
11:42 asciilifeform (decent panels let you do so without desoldering)
11:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i turned some off with a clipper also.
11:43 kakobrekla i taped them over for the few days i had those things installed
11:43 mircea_popescu i do not believe in cosmetic interventions to remedy defects. i'd much rather take out a bad led like that with a red hot poker
11:43 kakobrekla why take out led if not keeping screen
11:43 kakobrekla let somebody else bother with it.
11:43 mircea_popescu right, those i tape.
11:44 mircea_popescu just, you know, imagine my face when it shone through one layer of duct tape ff
11:44 kakobrekla lol
11:44 mircea_popescu wtf must be going on in these people's heads, "5 lumen, ok led, 165 lumen, BEST LED!11"
11:44 kakobrekla more IS better
11:45 kakobrekla large amount of phone number also.
11:45 mircea_popescu why not just put some plutonium. cherenkov effect makes air blue!11
11:45 asciilifeform one more thing 'eizo' got right.
11:45 mircea_popescu i guess it's because you can't turn that off huh.
11:45 asciilifeform where everyone else shat pants
11:46 mircea_popescu the ONLY reason leds ever got to be popular is that they had DISCREET light originally. ie, you couldn't really tell with a proper light on.
11:46 pete_dushenski eh apple cinema displays ain't so bad, just... apple
11:46 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: every single one i ever saw in person was terrible
11:46 asciilifeform srsly, glossy lcd !!!!?
11:46 asciilifeform fuck that.
11:46 pete_dushenski glossy ? oh that's only the new ones.
11:46 pete_dushenski yes, terrible things.
11:47 asciilifeform the old ones were terrible also.
11:47 asciilifeform expensive, sure. but eyes bleed.
11:47 pete_dushenski eyes bleed ?
11:47 asciilifeform yes. if you're used to proper lcd.
11:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276271 << 0.5th world problems!!1
11:48 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 14:06:07; kakobrekla: i have a color calibrator and i couldnt get these to sync color no matter what i did
11:48 thestringpuller asciilifeform: how do oyu feel about DLP?
11:48 kakobrekla im happy with my dells. as for the button, its so dim i cant tell if its painted or lit
11:48 asciilifeform thestringpuller: got one in the bedroom. a nice one, too. but wouldn't dream of using it for actual work.
11:48 asciilifeform thestringpuller: it is strictly for watching films
11:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47126 @ 0.00075992 = 35.812 BTC [-] {2}
11:49 kakobrekla well if you have more than 1 screen and colors are off, its annoying and it gets progressively more annoying with the screen count
11:50 asciilifeform thestringpuller: and last i checked, there is precisely one maker of usable (solid-state light source) large dlp machines, also.
11:50 asciilifeform of all people... casio.
11:50 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/come-see-what-positive-affirmative-etc-mean/
11:50 assbot Come see what "positive", "affirmative" etc mean! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmYn34 )
11:50 mircea_popescu ok there we go.
11:50 thestringpuller i thought TI also had a market in DLP too
11:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48474 @ 0.00075125 = 36.4161 BTC [-] {2}
11:50 asciilifeform thestringpuller: they only make the chip
11:50 mircea_popescu !up ghtdak
11:50 asciilifeform thestringpuller: i'm speaking of the entire projector
11:50 kakobrekla because white is green on one screen, yellow on the other, green on the third and red on the fourth
11:51 mircea_popescu ahahaha
11:51 mircea_popescu watching full panel porn should be a pretty decent exercise in impresionism
11:51 mircea_popescu "yo tits, why's her tits turn green on the upstroke ?" "she's too excited to contain her inner greens"
11:51 lobbes oh nice, qntra's back up too
11:52 mircea_popescu quick everyone, before the next one!
11:52 mircea_popescu do the deeds!
11:52 pete_dushenski https://luminous-landscape.com/eizo-coloredge-cg301w-vs-the-apple-30/ << "And I cannot emphasize enough what a difference it makes to be able to sit in front of a display for many hours without experiencing the typical eye strain and user fatigue." << hm. photographer/phd physicist who switched from acd to eizo.
11:52 assbot Eizo ColorEdge CG301W vs. The Apple 30 - Luminous Landscape ... ( http://bit.ly/1Of6hCL )
11:52 asciilifeform it is interesting how in just about every tech sector, there is ONE (perhaps two) vendors who make nice thing, optionally a few 'passable', and everybody else sells garbage.
11:52 pete_dushenski asciilifeform wins
11:52 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: pick one up, see for yourself
11:52 asciilifeform 'barco' also makes proper lcd. my brother has one.
11:53 kakobrekla i bet even 'eizo' drift over time
11:53 asciilifeform kakobrekla: everything drifts. that's what the colorimeter is for.
11:54 asciilifeform though i am not an artist, and do not deal in precise gammas, and do not personally notice.
11:54 mircea_popescu this would be a pretty decent word problem.
11:54 kakobrekla not an artist either but it bothers the shit out of me
11:54 asciilifeform kakobrekla: on eizo ?!
11:54 kakobrekla no
11:54 asciilifeform korean garbage naturally drifts quickly enough to use as a disco light
11:54 kakobrekla note i do not have a bothering problem now, for my setup it is solved
11:55 kakobrekla it bothers me in general, when i see it at others.
11:55 mircea_popescu "given a panel of 5 identical lcds, that have been on doing WoW for the past 5.5 years, if the same numeric value is rendered as red 10% more saturated on the most versus the least, calculate the probability"
11:56 kakobrekla U2713HM is what i run.
11:57 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276236
11:57 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:53:36; kakobrekla: and the difference is night and day, incomparable.
11:57 mircea_popescu Find Your Keys11:46 am 5.7 KiB***SPAM*** Never Lose Your Keys Ever Again
11:57 mircea_popescu dude...
11:57 mircea_popescu that's be one hell of a service.
11:59 asciilifeform kakobrekla: i presently have a ev2736w, two sx2462w, and a l885. (all but the last stand vertically.)
12:00 kakobrekla five identical dells here, set up in a way that bleeding pic shows
12:00 kakobrekla approx.
12:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276226 << anyone else puzzled re: the total lack of mention of the author of the implant (usg) ?
12:02 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 13:43:06; punkman: https://zmap.io/synful/
12:02 asciilifeform https://i.imgur.com/XI9wDA9.png << as in them
12:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmZoIp )
12:02 mircea_popescu assbot croaked ?
12:02 asciilifeform http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nsa-pwn-cisco-640x373.jpg << them.
12:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmZoZ0 )
12:02 mircea_popescu o nm me.
12:03 kakobrekla lol that face censor - famous pedo algo
12:03 asciilifeform (summary: the rootkit was found and reversed - or alternatively, 'burned'. and no mention of its author. god himself put it there! apparently)
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108250 @ 0.00074319 = 80.4503 BTC [-] {5}
12:03 mircea_popescu heh.
12:04 mircea_popescu "To identify implanted devices, we look for non-compliant responses where the sequence number is set to zero, the urgent flag is unset, and the urgent pointer is set to 0x0001. We do not respond with an ACK packet, and instead send a RST, closing the connection. This does not exploit the vulnerability, attempt a login, or complete the handshake. However, this does allows us to discern implanted from non-implanted route
12:04 mircea_popescu rs, since a non-implanted router should not set the urgent pointer, and has only a
12:04 mircea_popescu 1 in 232 chance of selecting zero as the sequence number."
12:04 mircea_popescu this is why it was burned, ftr.
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00075852 = 42.8185 BTC [+] {3}
12:04 mircea_popescu too easy to spot.
12:05 mircea_popescu s/232/2^32/
12:05 asciilifeform sop
12:05 asciilifeform upgrade from the dumb beta version to spiffy new orifice, burn old.
12:05 mircea_popescu myeah, what are they gonna do, include their own keys on the device end ?
12:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a compromised key generator would've been classier
12:06 asciilifeform or hell, leak the key in delays or other garbage
12:07 asciilifeform !s kleptography
12:07 assbot 3 results for 'kleptography' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kleptography
12:08 asciilifeform a 'spontaneous malfunction' of one bit in something, anything outgoing, can be a bit of leaked key
12:08 asciilifeform etc.
12:09 asciilifeform Run Moar Cisco !
12:10 mircea_popescu and this is worth doin gbecause...
12:10 mircea_popescu !up VariaVarietatis
12:10 mircea_popescu what part of b-a are we analysing today, VariaVarietatis ?
12:10 thestringpuller Cisco hardware has been diddle more than catholic school boys.
12:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you had an article, iirc, about u.s. firms voluntarily bending over by installing cisco and related gear, to avoid the rougher and less lubricated anal inspection of 'national security letter' etc.
12:11 asciilifeform that would be the point then.
12:11 mircea_popescu or might have been just off the cuff comment here.
12:12 asciilifeform possibly.
12:12 mircea_popescu but i was asking, what'd be the point for nsa to make something classier.
12:12 mircea_popescu they're not classy, the "victims" aren't classy either. whence all this class ?
12:12 mircea_popescu what are you, a classist ?
12:12 asciilifeform in the craftsman.
12:12 asciilifeform if i were in the service of hitler, that is how ~i~ would have written it.
12:13 thestringpuller was watching beavis and butthead do america last night. fbi somehow gets involved in trying to track them down for reasons, but everyone who has encountered the teens gets cavity searched.
12:13 asciilifeform and it cannot be said that these folks never have class. diddled disk fw is classy.
12:13 thestringpuller "We have to cavity search them just to be sure!"
12:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ftr, disk fw is still something WE SUSPECT
12:14 mircea_popescu we've not seen that they ever actually did.
12:14 asciilifeform ahahaha no
12:14 asciilifeform it was revealed.
12:14 mircea_popescu did i miss a memo ?
12:14 asciilifeform yes.
12:14 asciilifeform binariez even.
12:14 mircea_popescu link or something ?
12:14 asciilifeform reviewed on qntra
12:14 asciilifeform one of the very few articles i wrote personally
12:15 asciilifeform later i got hold of the actual binaries.
12:15 asciilifeform still have'em.
12:15 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/author/asciilifeform/ << check it out
12:15 assbot asciilifeform | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kn0u7c )
12:15 mircea_popescu "A recent publication by Kaspersky Lab (mirror) describes the first publicly-confirmed instance of a Microsoft Windows 'trojan' capable of infecting hard disk drive firmware. "
12:15 mircea_popescu this is not the same thing is it ?
12:15 asciilifeform aha, it was them.
12:15 asciilifeform there was a flasher for 9 major vendors of hdd.
12:15 asciilifeform (including ssd)
12:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83310 @ 0.00074369 = 61.9568 BTC [-]
12:16 asciilifeform if someone were to pay for it, yes, i could say what the payload is.
12:16 mircea_popescu alrighty then, i got nothing.
12:16 mircea_popescu that's pretty classy.
12:17 mircea_popescu pay, as in how much ?
12:17 asciilifeform of course it would appear less classy if one thinks about how they likely got the forced cooperation of the vendors
12:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as in six digits usd.
12:17 VariaVarietatis mircea_popescu: trying to make the call graph on trilema.com
12:18 * mircea_popescu ponders whether the embarassment is worth that much. then remembers the value of "the public" is 0. obviously could use this to steal a lot of monyz, but meh.
12:18 asciilifeform try some starving ru children first.
12:18 asciilifeform they work for less.
12:19 mircea_popescu that's ok.
12:19 shinohai I liked this a lot http://qntra.net/2014/11/buterins-waterfall-a-likbez/
12:19 assbot Buterin's Waterfall, a Likbez | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kn0Pqf )
12:19 asciilifeform the annoying thing about disk controllers is that pretty much the whole thing is one gigantic pile of undocumented regs
12:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform once we decide to go all north korea we use that to make mega-infector steal all the bases.
12:20 asciilifeform one would have to either steal the datasheet somewhere, or empirically (!) reverse the thing.
12:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: many other devices to infect, also. most heavy-lifting NICs are reflashable, have multi-core (!) cpu, etc.
12:21 mircea_popescu ayup.
12:21 asciilifeform the best leverage naturally is to find usg's magic tendrils already there.
12:21 mircea_popescu if teh server bs continues, we end up hosting on USG owned computers exclusively.
12:21 mircea_popescu not like it'd be that hard either. distributed datastore.
12:21 asciilifeform l0l
12:22 VariaVarietatis mircea_popescu: I got sort of an odd question asked you before but got side tracked why one wot for eulora and b-a and shouldn't a game have its own wot to allow eve online style play?
12:22 VariaVarietatis ie stealing and such
12:22 VariaVarietatis ;;google sean smith eve
12:22 gribble Sean Smith (diplomat) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Smith_(diplomat)>; The Amazing Life of Sean Smith, the Masterful Eve Gamer Slain in ...: <http://kotaku.com/the-extraordinary-mischievous-too-short-life-of-sean-481060252>; A tribute to Sean 'Vile Rat' Smith - EVE Community: <http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73406>
12:22 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:22 mircea_popescu lol
12:26 mircea_popescu aaand from the right in time ministry : the new refugees to Munich are petitioning to have Oktberfest cancled because it is offensive.
12:26 asciilifeform l0l!
12:26 asciilifeform berlinabad!
12:26 asciilifeform al-paris.
12:26 asciilifeform londonabad.
12:28 asciilifeform petitioning mr o, no less. >>> https://www.change.org/p/city-of-munich-ban-the-intolerant-and-anti-islamic-event-of-oktoberfest
12:28 assbot Pétition · City of Munich: Ban the Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event of Oktoberfest · Change.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxljC8 )
12:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88401 @ 0.00076277 = 67.4296 BTC [+] {3}
12:28 asciilifeform tr0l0l0l!
12:28 asciilifeform protocols of the elders of syria ?
12:28 mircea_popescu mhm.
12:29 mircea_popescu gotta hand it to the "immigrants" : they got a lot more going for them than zee germans do at this point.
12:29 asciilifeform what will they have going when they've eaten the last german ?
12:31 pete_dushenski a full belly
12:31 asciilifeform for a spell.
12:32 asciilifeform in updated version of the old fable, perhaps, the grasshopper devours the ant. and his stash. and then wonders what next.
12:33 pete_dushenski grasshopper refugees
12:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/3Y84AZP
12:36 assbot dpaste: 3Y84AZP ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxmGka )
12:43 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Noahthority and ” economists” - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/16/noahthority-and-economists/
12:46 mircea_popescu anyone recall offhand what "OP_RETURN 9" is ?
12:51 gernika mod6 so I've finally rebuilt my blkindex.dat after probably corrupting it last time I shutdown bitcoind. I need to shut it down again. Is there a way to safely shutdown bitcoind? Or at a minimum, back up the blkindex.dat of a running node?
12:52 mircea_popescu no to the latter. and to the former, make it detatch the db.
12:52 punkman mircea_popescu: OP_RETURN just adds arbitrary bytes to the transaction
12:52 mircea_popescu punkman i know, i meant about it being =9 specifically.
12:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82698 @ 0.00076114 = 62.9448 BTC [-] {2}
12:56 punkman I don't think it's something
12:56 mircea_popescu hm
12:57 punkman OP_RETURN is 9 characters though
12:57 mircea_popescu oh damn, i'm seeing the bytecount
12:57 mircea_popescu ty.
12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25977 @ 0.00076638 = 19.9083 BTC [+]
13:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00076509 = 21.4608 BTC [-]
13:16 punkman https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656
13:16 punkman "Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great."
13:18 asciilifeform achtung, panzers!
13:18 asciilifeform zoolag now at 108.51.29.6.
13:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62929 @ 0.00076623 = 48.2181 BTC [+] {3}
13:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54706 @ 0.00075764 = 41.4475 BTC [-]
13:23 gernika grepping the source of stator I see no references to "detach." Seems like versions prior to .6 automatically detach on shutdown (from google results). Only relevant ba discussion I can find is here: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-08-2015#1227642
13:23 assbot Logged on 06-08-2015 13:33:13; mircea_popescu: btw, prolly best run it with -detachdb switched on
13:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56700 @ 0.00075644 = 42.8901 BTC [-] {3}
13:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61300 @ 0.00075039 = 45.9989 BTC [-] {3}
13:39 thestringpuller https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-because-it-has-all-of-yours
13:41 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276154 << you REGULARLY fall asleep at the wheel ? yikes man. get thee a shorter commute, a later work start time, or yes, mega-amounts of caffeine. if you're traveling >20mph, that is.
13:41 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 09:00:07; thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: honestly, how fucking smart and alert do you have to be to drive a car ? << I have always had sleep problems. As a kid would always fall asleep on car rides. And as an adult I seem to regularly fall asleep at the wheel and still get home. But this is super dangerous. I really need to just pull over and nap for a second or red bull it up like a trucker would do...
13:42 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: it's usually the traffic you sit in it long enough and you get tired.
13:43 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-05-2015#1127018 << intel publishes docs on this
13:43 assbot Logged on 10-05-2015 17:11:59; asciilifeform: phun phact: virtually everything we publicly know re: how an intel cpu inits comes from the great ami bios source leaks
13:44 thestringpuller ^^^ reminds me of the plot of S1 of HCF
13:44 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: i've heard stories of atl's traffic shmozzle
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39150 @ 0.0007526 = 29.4643 BTC [+]
13:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69552 @ 0.00074167 = 51.5846 BTC [-] {6}
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63150 @ 0.00074194 = 46.8535 BTC [+] {3}
14:11 mircea_popescu !up crescendo
14:12 mircea_popescu gernika ah ok then. so shut it down should be ok.
14:13 mircea_popescu in other news, ""Greetings for the day! Hope you are doing great! My name is Letha Lozano and I am a Website Consultant. I found your email account online and would like to discuss some business opportunities with you""
14:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55643 @ 0.0007526 = 41.8769 BTC [+]
14:14 mod6 gernika: did you get it figured out then?
14:15 gernika ran bitcoind stop - the logs indicate that it ran through the shutdown procedure, but the process itself still runs
14:15 gernika been about 30 min.
14:15 mod6 oh, give it a little while, it should exit once everything is flushed.
14:17 mod6 <+gernika> ran bitcoind stop << this method that i use
14:17 mircea_popescu i dun recall it ever taking that long, but, as the man says. give it a bit.
14:18 mod6 i recently shutdown my fully sync'd openbsd node a week or two ago -- took quite a wait for it to finally exit. but i didn't keep close track of the time. could have easily been an hour though.
14:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7557 @ 0.00076201 = 5.7585 BTC [+]
14:26 deedbot- [Qntra] Twitter Continues Flirtation With Politicians - http://qntra.net/2015/09/twitter-continues-flirtation-with-politicians/
14:27 shinohai http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lisa-borch-teen-inspired-isis-jailed-9-years-over-mothers-n428331
14:27 assbot ISIS-Inspired Teen Lisa Borch Jailed Over Mom's Stabbing Death - NBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KnhlXn )
14:27 mircea_popescu i really should set up a hotline for these chicks.
14:28 mircea_popescu "are you 17 ? you got what it takes to stab your mom ? mp wants to hear from you BEFORE you manage to blow your wad on nothing worth the mention. come let's make beautiful music together."
14:35 gernika re: zoolag: trying connection 108.51.29.6:8333 lastseen=-372897.0hrs lasttry=-400674.8hrs | connection timeout
14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 209100 @ 0.00074834 = 156.4779 BTC [-] {6}
14:44 lobbes lol, dafuq is a 'Website Consultant'
14:44 lobbes some 13 yr old kid
14:46 punkman http://qntra.net/2015/09/twitter-continues-flirtation-with-politicians/ << lol $cashatgs
14:46 assbot Twitter Continues Flirtation With Politicians | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Knjr9B )
14:49 shinohai Twitter sometimes makes me want to just go back to finger :/
14:51 lobbes $deeznuts2016
14:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57700 @ 0.0007359 = 42.4614 BTC [-]
15:07 BingoBoingo https://bitbet.us/bet/1197/rand-paul-will-get-less-than-7-minutes/ << FUCK YEAH!!! http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/09/16/cnn_s_three_hour_main_event_the_network_s_debate_wildcard_a_third_hour_on.html
15:07 assbot BitBet - Rand Paul will get less than 7 minutes in Sept. 16th Republican debate :: 5.04 B (94%) on Yes, 0.31 B (6%) on No | closed 1 day 19 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1KkQ9bU )
15:07 assbot CNN’s three-hour main event: The network’s debate wildcard? A third hour on stage ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2QX9B )
15:11 punkman http://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-2-billion-lines-codeand-one-place/
15:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KnlOt8 )
15:11 punkman "estimates that the software needed to run all of Google’s Internet services—from Google Search to Gmail to Google Maps—spans some 2 billion lines of code."
15:13 punkman "all 2 billion lines sit in a single code repository available to all 25,000 Google engineers." << what and nobody has leaked them yet
15:15 mircea_popescu join my petition for google to increase its google size.
15:15 mircea_popescu if every person on earth wrote just 50 lines of code, which is a very small number of lines of code to write for the progress world etc,
15:16 mircea_popescu then they would never fit
15:16 mircea_popescu google needs to move now because otherwise it could stymy adoption in this early stage of the game
15:16 mircea_popescu we must make a sub-derppit about it!
15:17 punkman oic now "certain highly sensitive code—stuff akin to the Google’s PageRank search algorithm—resides in separate repositories only available to specific employees."
15:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6218 @ 0.0007359 = 4.5758 BTC [-]
15:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63632 @ 0.00073564 = 46.8102 BTC [-] {2}
15:31 deedbot- [Trilema] Why should the Argentine population go graze already ? - http://trilema.com/2015/why-should-the-argentine-population-go-graze-already/
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49550 @ 0.00073517 = 36.4277 BTC [-] {6}
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00073641 = 26.1426 BTC [+]
15:57 shinohai Anyone alive? https://i.imgur.com/aC3J19m.jpg
15:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NxSvta )
16:10 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:10 BingoBoingo !up airgapped
16:11 trinque shinohai: I ain't mad at it.
16:12 ascii_field soooooo my isp firewalled off ~all~ incoming ports.
16:12 ascii_field without warning.
16:12 shinohai O.o o rly
16:12 shinohai $whois ascii_field 's isp
16:12 ascii_field verizon fiber
16:13 shinohai Are they emulating at&t now ?
16:13 ascii_field perhaps it is only my house
16:13 ascii_field and no one else.
16:13 ascii_field there was no official communication concerning this.
16:13 shinohai i suppose this is why i found your node unreachable
16:14 ascii_field shinohai: they also switched my ip (it happens 2-3x a year)
16:14 trinque maybe you tripped some "anti-malware" thing they use to mitigate aids-spewing windows boxes
16:14 trinque because you... actually use the service
16:14 shinohai comcast used to do that, but i have business class nau
16:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63900 @ 0.00073499 = 46.9659 BTC [-] {2}
16:15 ascii_field prolly gonna get upsold into 'business'
16:15 ascii_field 2x cost.
16:15 trinque I was amazed to find I was not allowed to have an open port 25 on comcast residential.
16:15 ascii_field i suspect that 8333 is considered a 'funny' port
16:15 ascii_field but i will note that they cut off EVERYTHING
16:15 shinohai panic mode
16:16 trinque gosspid by packet radio
16:21 phf i think main value of business account with us telco, they actually show you how short the leash is. instead of "unlimited everything!!1" you get an equivalent of 90s dialup, but you're free to use it at saturation levels
16:24 shinohai I seem to be stuck on height 314526 for the moment.
16:25 mod6 are you getting strange errors in the log? or the node your -connect'd to is just done??
16:25 mod6 *down
16:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00073841 = 16.3927 BTC [+]
16:26 BingoBoingo My stator (DB patched) is finally up to July 5th fork, sped up considerably since I had it -connect to local sync'd node (moved to this arrangement to open 8333)
16:27 mircea_popescu trinque> I was amazed to find I was not allowed to have an open port 25 on comcast residential. <<< i'm amazed at the notion of a "not allowed" port in general.
16:27 ascii_field 25 was a desperate spamcontrol measure in the late '90s
16:27 trinque mircea_popescu: I briefly began explaining what a port is, then gave up.
16:28 shinohai and just like that it starts back up
16:28 mod6 nice
16:29 trinque mircea_popescu: also http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh and http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh.sig << the configuration in the script currently dumps out a root.img which can be loaded into qemu
16:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoesG8 )
16:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoesG4 )
16:30 trinque I can modify it for you if you'd like it to write to a block device; it requires changing a variable at the top and altering the lilo config
16:30 trinque it may also be pointed at a stage3 which is no longer available. They delete the old ones rather rapidly.
16:30 mircea_popescu aha
16:30 trinque in fact, let me run this sometime today, then I'll provide another link.
16:32 shinohai I almost got that whittled down to a science with genkernel nau trinque
16:32 trinque nice.
16:32 ascii_field Rajesh(16:33:29): I found that your issue requires advance expertise to resolve. Unfortunately my expertise is limited to basic settings. However, we have a team called expert care and they will be able to help you resolve this issue. Please call them on 1-877-718-6716 and they work 24/7 , please note this a paid service.
16:32 ascii_field (1-877-718-6716)
16:32 ascii_field ^ gold.
16:33 ascii_field ^ verizon co.
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117100 @ 0.00074798 = 87.5885 BTC [+] {3}
16:33 trinque shinohai: once you've booted, you can use "localyesconfig" to build the currently loaded modules set to "yes"
16:33 trinque ^ one of the makefile targets of the kernel
16:33 trinque ascii_field: paid!!!
16:34 mod6 <+ascii_field> ^ gold. << hahah
16:34 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> ^ verizon co. << Municipal fiber means knowing whose doorstep you could elect to take a shit on
16:35 ascii_field BingoBoingo: nothing municipal about this one.
16:35 ascii_field telco monopoly.
16:35 ascii_field Rajesh(16:36:08): No, Mr. Datskovskiy, Verizon never block the incoming connections.
16:35 trinque they closed your ports then expect you to pay to open them?
16:35 ascii_field not even.
16:35 ascii_field they claim 'nothing happened'
16:35 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Sure, but if your provider would have been municipal instead of VerizATTLink
16:35 ascii_field BingoBoingo: if your grandmother had balls (tm)
16:37 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Common in Middle West and Mid South now for consumer Fiber provision to be the exclusive domain of municipal electric coop
16:37 ascii_field BingoBoingo: this doesn't do me a lick of good.
16:37 ascii_field over here, it's either these devils or $1000/mo
16:37 BingoBoingo Well, not if you want to nest outside of Lizard central feeding grounds
16:38 ascii_field BingoBoingo: i am a serf and can go nowhere.
16:38 BingoBoingo Serfdom in Ruralburbia has its perks over Capitalserfdom
16:39 ascii_field BingoBoingo: nobody asked serf where he'd like to serf
16:39 ascii_field that's the whole idea
16:39 ascii_field of being a serf.
16:39 shinohai trinque: did not know that abt localyesconfig thx
16:39 mircea_popescu ascii_field keks, thgey want you to pay them to fix their network for them ?
16:40 BingoBoingo Of course. Though sometimes serfs who run away are lucky to get captured into better serfdom instead of returned
16:40 ascii_field mircea_popescu: no, they want me to pay to get hot air from some indian dude
16:40 ascii_field nobody's gonna fix shit.
16:40 ascii_field because OFFICIALLY nothing broke.
16:40 * mircea_popescu braces for that sweet sweet time when alf's power goes out weekly and he STILL sticks around.
16:40 ascii_field where am i supposed to go?
16:40 ascii_field on $0
16:41 mircea_popescu first you plan then you budget, not the other way around!
16:41 mircea_popescu et tu, assbote!
16:41 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
16:41 ascii_field ty mircea_popescu
16:41 lobbes try going above indian's head?
16:42 ascii_field lobbes: tried.
16:42 mircea_popescu so they closed what, 8333 ?
16:43 ascii_field ALL OF THEM
16:43 mircea_popescu so how are oyu here ?!
16:43 ascii_field i'm at $plant
16:43 mircea_popescu ah
16:43 ascii_field but outgoing works
16:43 ascii_field from my house.
16:43 ascii_field only incoming does not.
16:43 ascii_field and Officially there is no reason for it.
16:44 shinohai Officially they filter ports and tell no one.
16:44 ascii_field no quotas either
16:44 mircea_popescu aha.
16:44 ascii_field if they are trying to upsell me, doing a pretty poor job
16:44 phf ascii_field: what does netcat with tcpdump say? do packets just get blackholed?
16:44 mircea_popescu i thought they got a monopoly. how else would you do it ?
16:44 ascii_field mircea_popescu: poor job in the sense that no promise of normal service for more $$
16:45 ascii_field phf: aha
16:45 mircea_popescu of course not ?
16:45 ascii_field phf: black hole.
16:45 mircea_popescu they gave you the place to spend $$$.
16:45 mircea_popescu why'd they promise anything ?
16:45 ascii_field no implication, even, of normal service for more $
16:45 ascii_field 'nothing is broken'
16:45 mircea_popescu call the strippers and stfu.
16:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57600 @ 0.00073697 = 42.4495 BTC [-] {3}
16:46 ascii_field by 'strippers' mircea_popescu meant, the t1 installers ?
16:46 shinohai Does Verizon tether you to their routers/equipment ?
16:46 mircea_popescu well the 1-877-718-6716 working 24/7 guise.
16:46 mircea_popescu business means "here's what we do and here's how to pay".
16:46 ascii_field shinohai: the only equipment of theirs i have is the optical terminal
16:46 mircea_popescu monopoly however, is just "here's where to pay"
16:46 ascii_field shinohai: i do not use their idiot modem or router
16:47 mircea_popescu simpler bidnis.
16:47 shinohai I still pay an extra $8 for cable modem rental fee, even tho I don't use it.
16:48 shinohai Comcast has the evil all-in-ones that use your modem as a AP
16:48 mircea_popescu move to romania. easily best internet service in all of the western world.
16:48 ascii_field shinohai: comcast exists here, i am not even considering it as an option
16:48 shinohai It is my on;y choice sadly in this area.
16:48 ascii_field mircea_popescu: i would happily move to antarctica if i knew of some way to get food and net access there.
16:48 shinohai total monopoly
16:49 jurov mircea_popescu: try suggesting moving to shenzhen. 99% guaranteed to push alf's buttons
16:49 ascii_field i'd even move to shenzhen
16:49 ascii_field or shanghai
16:49 mircea_popescu jurov im wating for him to run out of "if" riders.
16:49 ascii_field pyongyang.
16:49 mircea_popescu so go. dja want me to order you a plane ticket ?
16:49 ascii_field i can afford plane ticket.
16:49 * shinohai moves to Moldova
16:49 mircea_popescu so then.
16:49 ascii_field just not the nth month of rent.
16:49 mircea_popescu forget the nth month.
16:50 mircea_popescu julius caesar lived his entire life paycheck to paycheck.
16:50 ascii_field mno.
16:50 mircea_popescu myes.
16:51 ascii_field i have no intention of voluntarily curtailing my research and defaulting on my wot obligations. they will have to come and put that bullet in my head.
16:52 mircea_popescu i guess researching net providers counts as research.
16:53 ascii_field my hovel came with not one but two sat dishes, one of them being a 2-way, believe or not. (russian fella used to live here)
16:53 ascii_field perhaps i will have it activated.
16:53 mircea_popescu o hey, apparently they figured out outgoing worked by reading teh logs :D
16:53 ascii_field but nobody's running a useful node out of that.
16:53 ascii_field l0l
16:53 ascii_field all the support slave could do was cycle my pole box
16:54 mircea_popescu go break into their trunk box, cut the connection to home, install your own firmware ?
16:54 ascii_field why not headquarters ?
16:54 mircea_popescu then again i suppose that's domestic terrorism, hm.
16:55 ascii_field aha, know the english proverb,
16:55 mircea_popescu "he struck the fear of god into the local telco monopoly, your honor" "oh shit. 20 life sentences!11"
16:55 ascii_field 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'
16:56 phf they got capone on tax evasion
16:57 mircea_popescu phf capone was a dollop tho. stalin didn't get tito, tax evasion or no tax evasion.
16:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37642 @ 0.00074897 = 28.1927 BTC [+]
16:57 mircea_popescu capone was derpy enough to not shoot the fbi head. which is why you hear about him.
16:58 mircea_popescu the mexicans that weren't derpy, you don't hear about.
16:58 shinohai What it looks like outside my hovel in winter: https://transfer.sh/XXuyp/dscf0067.jpg
16:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh2vFV )
16:58 shinohai ^ comcast takes a week to come out when mine is down xD
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86908 @ 0.00073755 = 64.099 BTC [-] {4}
17:03 shinohai More ether keks: https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3l6b6b/fuck_i_just_send_all_my_ether_to_a_new_contract/
17:03 assbot Fuck! I just send all my ether to a new contract instead of to my brain wallet. Is there any way to reclaim it? : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh49av )
17:06 ascii_field 'Also, we have the Verizon In-Home Agent for Windows PC's that you can download at http://www.verizon.com/connect. Thank you for choosing Verizon and have a great day. '
17:06 assbot Error 404--Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh4sCm )
17:06 trinque shinohai: "Only vbuterin himself can help me..." << bwahahaha
17:06 trinque these people live to deliver action movie lines
17:08 shinohai my sides
17:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00074897 = 33.7037 BTC [+]
17:12 ag3nt_zer0 whats up y;all
17:13 shinohai sup ag3nt_zer0 que tal de bueno ?
17:13 ag3nt_zer0 ragin' about the behaviorist animal psychology takeover of educational system here
17:14 ag3nt_zer0 had meeting with principal today
17:14 ag3nt_zer0 haha
17:14 ag3nt_zer0 he is very excited, almost giddy, about his assertion that the purpose of education is to raise "citizens"
17:14 ag3nt_zer0 shuld of seen the joy....
17:14 phf i don't know anything about mafioso in america beyond disnified, "you gonna like this guy, he's all right, he's a good fella", so i would believe about capone. but then he was a brooklyn hood rad, where's tito was a man
17:14 ag3nt_zer0 totally hopeless
17:15 mats http://mosaicscience.com/story/brazils-cancer-curse
17:15 assbot Brazil’s cancer curse | Mosaic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh5zSi )
17:15 mircea_popescu phf capone was from chicago.
17:16 mircea_popescu fat, histrionic type.
17:17 shinohai Sam Gianacana, now *that's* an OG
17:18 mircea_popescu i would propose this is an exceptionally apt comparison, incidentally. the relative economic might of chicago of the 30s as part of the us of the 30s is about where the economic might of the yugoslavia of the 50s as part of the eu+ru of the 50s stands ; the stalin-hoover equality is not particularly inept, on many scores (and the ones where it isn't, it advantages stalin)
17:18 ag3nt_zer0 the new stealth, and quite cheery, totalitarianism is in full flower and Goebells would be astonished that it is happening with centralized dictates but instead in full pom pom ra ra volunteerism
17:18 ag3nt_zer0 *not with centralized
17:20 mircea_popescu it wasn't any fuckiung different in 1941.
17:20 ag3nt_zer0 have slaves always been this proud?
17:20 mircea_popescu always pretended, anyway.
17:20 mircea_popescu what do you suppose prevents man from cleaning out the trash from his car ?
17:21 mircea_popescu the notion that "the situation is livable" and "he'll figure it out" and you know, the previous inhavitant was russian so there's satellite dishes.
17:21 ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: hmmm, perhaps not, but I would argue the the new post psychedelic controls are much more insidious
17:21 ag3nt_zer0 and invisible
17:22 mircea_popescu eh, they're always much more insidious for being the ones you saw.
17:22 mircea_popescu the bullshit is unchanged for 5000 years, first hand observers report it is "exceptionally so and so". and all guns ever used in robberies are BIG
17:22 mircea_popescu according to witnesses.
17:23 mircea_popescu not that fucking many big guns available. all fucking guns are their standard size, being as they are industrial products.
17:26 phf !up ascii_field
17:26 ascii_field ty phf
17:26 ascii_field mircea_popescu: the gun that is pointed in one's face is always surprisingly big.
17:26 ascii_field bigger yet when it goes off.
17:27 ascii_field and comparing the equivalent of shooting yourself in the head to cleaning a car is disingenuous, at least.
17:28 phf what i was trying to say re capone vs tito, is that capone was a hood rat, with the operational scope of village vs village, for him fbi involvement was perhaps the leviathan. where's tito was successful tactician and strategist in war and later a national leader. i suspect that allowed him to operate on the sufficiently high level to resist governmental intervention on equal terms
17:28 lobbes the man with trash in his car doesn't stop to consider if his condition is 'livable' or not
17:28 ag3nt_zer0 well, then this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo
17:28 assbot Tool - Ænema [uncut version - hq - fullscreen] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh6GkU )
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63900 @ 0.00074659 = 47.7071 BTC [-]
17:29 phf !up thestringpuller
17:30 ascii_field if removing trash from car without also removing your own liver cost $200,000, not many people would have clean car.
17:30 thestringpuller ag3nt_zer0: Reminds me of the lateralus video
17:30 shinohai diggin that tool ag3nt_zer0
17:30 ascii_field comparing the options available to capone or even tito, to the meagre existence of random schmuck, is also disingenuous.
17:31 thestringpuller Third Eye is still my favorite song off that album tho.
17:31 thestringpuller Either that or H.
17:31 ag3nt_zer0 shinohai: goes alright I am able to work so that's good... but counting the days until next summer to go on 2 year fuck all backpacking trip into the unknown
17:31 ag3nt_zer0 maxed out
17:32 thestringpuller I think Lateralus is a more philosophically compelling album, but Aenema is better received.
17:32 ag3nt_zer0 thestringpuller: yeah I believe they use the same artists for lots of stuff... for instance alex grey for their album artwork and others for the stop motion videos
17:33 thestringpuller Adam Jones the guitarist used to work as an animator for stuff like Jurassic Park ( he actually has a credit in Jurassic Park since he worked on that prod before quitting to do Tool full time )
17:33 ag3nt_zer0 yeah I prefer lateralus as well but there are some great extended areas of aenima
17:33 ag3nt_zer0 they are apparantly getting close to release of a new one
17:33 thestringpuller ag3nt_zer0: yea you get a better feel for aenema's records if you listen to the live album. forget what ti's called Salivial?
17:33 shinohai I wish I still knew someone good at remixing. I like some songs but they are overproduced.
17:33 ag3nt_zer0 yeah
17:34 ag3nt_zer0 salival i think
17:34 thestringpuller cause salivial has that "remix" of pushit which uses those mandela pads you hear a lot in lateralus
17:34 deedbot- [Qntra] War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock - http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/
17:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1408 @ 0.00074897 = 1.0545 BTC [+]
17:36 thestringpuller 10,000 days didn't hit me the sameway.
17:37 thestringpuller it's an extremely profound from a technical stand point, but it's not as philosophically compelling
17:37 thestringpuller cool to see more tool fans
17:37 thestringpuller one of the two bands I've seen in my life that made me straight up weep.
17:37 thestringpuller like a bitch
17:38 phf ascii_field: the way i see mp's point is that tito, capone and random schmuck all have same options. random schmuck is that way for never acting on those options. capone is a schmuck for only sometimes not acting on his options. etc.
17:38 ag3nt_zer0 for today's speculative waste: I think it would be great if this room had an educational manifest in the meatspace... sort of like an intellectual spartan boot camp
17:39 lobbes http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/ << this reminded me of this old story from 2007 http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2015/02/03/2007-flashback-adult-swims-aqua-teen-bomb-scare-in-boston/
17:39 assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7xSF )
17:39 assbot 2007 flashback: Adult Swim’s ‘Aqua Teen’ bomb scare in Boston | Radio and TV Talk ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7y9a )
17:39 trinque ag3nt_zer0: do it; assemble the #b-a bookshelf
17:40 shinohai was listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoheCz4t2xc
17:40 assbot System Of A Down - Hypnotize - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7BSG )
17:40 jurov ag3nt_zer0: was already discussed and mp put some proposal, but can't remember the keywords
17:41 jurov http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/ found!
17:41 assbot Basic Bitcoin Competency Certification on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hDscGp )
17:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00075074 = 30.405 BTC [+]
17:42 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: haha would The Real Astrology by John Frawley be allowed? or writings by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI)
17:42 trinque I take it back.
17:42 shinohai Wasn't that mircea_popescu 's response to princeton's scam course?
17:42 trinque :D
17:42 ag3nt_zer0 haha
17:42 ag3nt_zer0 hey dont judge a book by its cover
17:43 thestringpuller shinohai: no it was to buterin's friends' C4 certification
17:43 shinohai ah ok
17:43 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: btw... you make time for that 134 page gem yet
17:43 ag3nt_zer0 I am lusting to hear your dismissals
17:44 thestringpuller shinohai: http://qntra.net/2015/02/new-security-standard-announced-at-devcore/ << reported on qntra
17:44 trinque nah haven't read that yet; got buried under that book on CLOS and assorted meatspace work
17:46 shinohai "Why would he contribute to your thing ? This nonsense is roughly equivalent to child playing with toy truck, telling some truckers "hey, if you see a problem with my toy truck, why don't you come and fix it!".
17:46 shinohai ty thestringpuller had not read
17:48 jurov "The backup must be protected against environmental risks such as fire, flood, and other acts of God."
17:48 thestringpuller i didn't put that Buterin's crew is who runs C4. Seems like a scam for a piece of paper worth less than today's MIT degree.
17:48 thestringpuller They only accept bitcoin, and I'm certain it goes straight into the waterfall.
17:49 jurov danielpbarron might have a say about protection of backups from God's wrath?
17:49 kakobrekla god will destroy your backups to test your faith
17:49 ag3nt_zer0 btw if anyone can prove the "assertions" in that book (crisis of the modern world - rene guenon) false, useless, or shitty in another way... I would love it because I read it as truth...
17:50 shinohai lol wut kakobrekla
17:50 kakobrekla is how it works dont ya know
17:50 ag3nt_zer0 and if there is another plzce that is as primed as this room to offer valuable critique I know not where it is to be found
17:50 kakobrekla thats why all the bad stuff happens.
17:51 shinohai ./dev/urandom/ is why bad stuff happens
17:51 jurov "Digital signatures must use a ‘k’ value that is never repeated. This can be accomplished through the use of a deterministic random bit generator (DRBG) that is compliant with NIST SP 800-90A, or a deterministic scheme compatible with RFC 6979."
17:51 shinohai like blockchain top kek
17:54 jurov "In cases where keys or seeds are created without the use of software (e.g. dice, a deck of cards, or other non-digital source of entropy), the creation methodology should be validated to ensure determinism is not present (i.e. there are no weighted dice, each card in the deck is unique, etc.)."
17:54 shinohai danielpbarron: y no np ?
17:55 thestringpuller jurov: it's lunacy mixed with buzzwords.
17:56 shinohai !up ascii_field
17:57 jurov anyone knows how to check for nondeterministic dice? :D
18:00 shinohai http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/13668576/iran-captain-miss-asian-cup-husband-took-passport?ex_cid=sportscenterFB&sf13113921=1
18:00 assbot Iran captain to miss Asian Cup as husband took passport ... ( http://bit.ly/1P01dPM )
18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00076 = 28.272 BTC [+]
18:08 ag3nt_zer0 hang in there till the 5 minute mark and holy cow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7w_Ut12fY
18:08 assbot Nine Inch Nails - All Time Low (VEVO Presents) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhbiYq )
18:12 punkman jurov: anyone knows how to check for nondeterministic dice? :D << seems like noone has figured it out yet http://trilema.com/2014/so-heres-a-problem-for-you/
18:12 assbot So here's a problem for you... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhbRBn )
18:13 ag3nt_zer0 I wholeheartily recommend the entire production, but if strapped for time, to me the other outstanding example of this tech is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3sp6Hwp3nk
18:13 assbot Nine Inch Nails - Disappointed (VEVO Presents) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhbU01 )
18:14 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
18:15 mircea_popescu <ascii_field> and comparing the equivalent of shooting yourself in the head to cleaning a car is disingenuous, at least. << it is. meanwhile it't can't possibly be ingenious, because what goes on in man's mind is incomprehensible. be it bullet or whatever else.
18:15 punkman oh here's one http://pit-claudel.fr/clement/blog/generating-uniformly-random-data-from-skewed-input-biased-coins-loaded-dice-skew-correction-and-the-von-neumann-extractor/
18:15 assbot Generating uniformly random data from skewed input: biased coins, loaded dice, skew correction, and the Von Neumann extractor | Code crumbs, by Clément Pit–Claudel ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fhc87v )
18:16 mircea_popescu phf tito was, like stalin was, originally, a hood rat.
18:16 mircea_popescu everyone's born a shit eating, shit for brains, worm.
18:16 mircea_popescu because that's what always crawls out of woman : a barely aggregated pile of shit.
18:16 mircea_popescu but anyway, got a meeting now, will be back later we can drink this issue under the table.
18:17 kakobrekla !s C201
18:17 assbot 0 results for 'C201' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=C201
18:18 phf ag3nt_zer0: i couldn't get past his west vs. east chapter, or slightly after. his understanding of eastern tradition is dodgy (i see same issue with evola by the way), since he exists in the time after theosophists's liberal translations of sacred texts, but before people like mircea eliade or theos bernard had a chance to verify with the locals whether or the understanding was correct. (and long before easterners themselves started making
18:18 phf scholarly rather then popular translations).
18:23 shinohai http://www.kristovatlas.com/bitcoin-visions-and-conflicts-of-interest/
18:23 assbot Bitcoin Visions and Conflicts of Interest ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhcyuH )
18:24 punkman and some more on debiasing dice http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:M_P9vZTEa3kJ:www.emc.com/emc-plus/rsa-labs/ps/dicebits.ps+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
18:24 assbot How to Turn Loaded Dice into Fair Coins ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhcA5L )
18:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96913 @ 0.00075151 = 72.8311 BTC [-] {3}
18:28 ag3nt_zer0 phf: interesting. becauseas I understand it guenon used to travel in the theosophist circles in france until he rejected them in favor of a more rigorous "traditionalism" - he even wrote a book about it - Theosophy: history of a pseudo religion - I think it was called... so i guess it could be asserted that he was still "unconsciously" operating under some of their errors but 1) it seems odd to think that a person with an
18:28 ag3nt_zer0 own unconsciousness… no?
18:31 ag3nt_zer0 and 2) what would be the correct understanding that contradicts his greater metaphysical points about ultimate reality and what constitutes an authentic revealed tradition or not... what do you mean by the locals? and would not Ananda Coomaraswamy, geunons contemporary and equal in many ways but with a mind turned toward the art of the east and west be a counter to that?
18:32 ag3nt_zer0 phf: thanks for checking out out btw
18:32 ag3nt_zer0 it out jeez
18:42 phf ag3nt_zer0: theosophy does completely fanciful free interpretation based on amateur translations by various aristocrats gone native. any sane person will look at it and go "wtf" upon closer inspection, but you're still left with amateur translations. not to mention that you need representatives of traditions to interpret those esoteric texts (what i mean by locals)
18:46 phf guenon's revelations are entirely his own, inspired perhaps by close reading of some of the available eastern sacred texts
18:46 trinque closest I ever came to reading any "theosophy" was Jiddu Krishnamurti
18:47 trinque and looking back I couldn't tell you wtf he was trying to say
18:47 trinque something vaguely approaching the limitations around what can and cannot be said about being
18:47 trinque and one's probably much better off reading Wittgenstein or Heidegger
18:48 ag3nt_zer0 yeah krishnamurti is worthless
18:48 ag3nt_zer0 let me be clear. as is probably all theosophy...
18:48 trinque hipster antimessiah
18:48 lobbes !up ascii_field
18:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64100 @ 0.0007604 = 48.7416 BTC [+] {4}
18:49 phf theosophy did one good thing, their "members" would do early translations of various sacred texts, and they would make those translations available through their lodges
18:50 phf the translations are universally bad, but gave westerners first glimpses of "eastern thought"
18:53 ag3nt_zer0 trinque: yes. one is better off reading wittgestein or heidegger over the theosophical trash... but imo guenon, schuon, coomaraswami (ananda) and evola are infinitely better to read than those philosophers you mentioned - and they are not at all aligned with theosophy - except for guenons youthful foray into it as mentioned
19:02 phf as far as ultimate knowledge, different schools have contradictory answers to some of those fundamental questions (say samkhya vs advaita vedanta's take on self vs absolute)
19:04 phf the assumption that there's any kind of unity to eastern sacred thought is by the way theosophical in nature, where's you have a bajilion of lineages all with their own takes on what's true
19:06 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/2ymj2wJ.png <<< allah snackbar!
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19:12 deedbot- [Qntra] Pascal Reid Pleads Guilty: Promises to Service USG Law Enforcement - http://qntra.net/2015/09/pascal-reid-pleads-guilty-promises-to-service-usg-law-enforcement/
19:15 phf another point i'll make before checking in for the night, is that eastern mystical tradition is experiential, a lot of ideas of the nature of ultimate reality and such are not even worth contemplating until you go through whatever the lineage prescribes, meditation, purification practices, breathing exercises, physical exercises, that are supposed to bring you towards understanding of ultimate reality. talking about it or presenting second
19:15 phf hand revelations as some sort of ultimate truth completely contradicts the original intent.
19:19 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
19:19 BingoBoingo That was astoundingly fast https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3l8gi2/pascal_reid_pleads_guilty_promising_to_service/
19:19 assbot Pascal Reid Pleads Guilty Promising to Service USG "Law Enforcement" – Full Draft Plea Text : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fhjec2 )
19:19 ascii_field bbl
19:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00075872 = 22.7237 BTC [-]
19:28 ag3nt_zer0 phf: are you just referring to that east vs. west chapter? I ask because though he explores eastern esoterism he was actually a practicing sufi
19:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00075872 = 31.2593 BTC [-]
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128455 @ 0.00076176 = 97.8519 BTC [+] {4}
19:36 BingoBoingo https://slashdot.org/submission/4945145/bitcoin-trader-agrees-to-work-for-police-in-plea-agreement
19:36 assbot Bitcoin Trader Agrees to Work For Police In Plea Agreement - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FhkTyi )
19:37 ag3nt_zer0 no offense but I actually think one would have to explore him a bit more than less than a chapter to really offer up a viable criticism... but maybe that's just because I don't know what you have read and so do not know by what criteria you judge something as true or not true (some people hear voices, others echoes of dead philosophers)... at any rate thanks for taking the time to look and for sharing your thoughts at all
19:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53150 @ 0.00076369 = 40.5901 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 shinohai !s https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1179964.0
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20:24 BingoBoingo How goes the alfernet?
20:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00076425 = 10.241 BTC [+]
20:26 asciilifeform same as before.
20:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00076425 = 5.1205 BTC [+]
20:37 asciilifeform veeeeeery interesting outage.
20:37 asciilifeform over, for the time being. zoolag @ 173.73.235.152:8333.
20:37 asciilifeform until next time.
20:43 BingoBoingo 'Murican problems: "The easiest way to handle an obese funeral is to refer the family to your competitor, but that rarely works, especially if you picked up the body strapped to two hospital mattresses, (oh – the pain!)" http://www.oversizecasket.com/funeralprofessional.html
20:44 BingoBoingo re: circus folk
20:45 * mircea_popescu feels compelled to point out re phf's worthy evaluation of topic that a significant part of eliade's said evaluation was drilling a local dude's daughter.
20:47 mircea_popescu (i also do not hold the view that indians EVER made scholarly anything. nor do i believe people like bharara or the raj schmuck recently mentioned are part of the western tradition, in spite of doing a passible job of masquerading it. the DA's office with bharara in it simple ceased to be much akin to the US DA and more like a fetid indian "institution", just like state with rice was more like state hence than like sta
20:47 mircea_popescu te ever was before. ie, incompetent, superficial, a sort of "cosmo does state dept".)
20:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10723 @ 0.00075535 = 8.0996 BTC [-]
20:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17977 @ 0.00075359 = 13.5473 BTC [-] {2}
20:54 mircea_popescu <phf> the translations are universally bad, but gave westerners first glimpses of "eastern thought" << and by westerners we mean, of course, americans.
20:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00076433 = 16.7388 BTC [+] {3}
21:00 mircea_popescu <phf> talking about it or presenting second hand revelations as some sort of ultimate truth completely contradicts the original intent. <<< it is altogether dubious any original intent even exists, or that "intent" as a category is at all adequate to discuss the matter. perhaps a decent approach towards what "existential" sanely means in the context is provided by the "causes not purposes" dichotomy. there is no inten
21:00 mircea_popescu t, as such, nor any "progress" in the sense of "levelling up to krishna" and supersizing your karma serving.
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00076592 = 26.7306 BTC [+]
21:02 mircea_popescu "satisfied that he understands all the conditions and obligations contained herein, that he is entering into this agreement freely and voluntarily with full knowledge of its contents, that no additional promises have been made regarding his sentence, or potential sentences, and further, that he has read this entire agreement."
21:02 mircea_popescu satisfied that the car is in working condition and also that it has an engine at all!
21:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol it got fixed ?!
21:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apparently!
21:17 asciilifeform or phixed.
21:19 mircea_popescu "the other residents of the drab soviet prefab block of flats always envied ivan ivanovich, for this inept pretense of normalcy that he found himself on the receiving end of, even if in all fairness it was not really his fault."
21:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277112 <<<<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#883003
21:21 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 00:43:00; BingoBoingo: 'Murican problems: "The easiest way to handle an obese funeral is to refer the family to your competitor, but that rarely works, especially if you picked up the body strapped to two hospital mattresses, (oh – the pain!)" http://www.oversizecasket.com/funeralprofessional.html
21:21 assbot Logged on 19-10-2014 03:19:21; asciilifeform: main danger, as i understand, is that their combustion will: create a visible plume of smoke. or, the ultimate catastrophe, 'auschwitzy' smell.
21:21 asciilifeform (this is ~the~ subject in the technical literature concerning cremation, in usa.)
21:22 asciilifeform i shit thee not
21:22 mircea_popescu it would be, neh ?
21:22 mircea_popescu "a unique celebration of life with honor and dignity. "
21:22 mircea_popescu for fucks sake. funerals should not be fucking celebrations of life. what the fuck do they do at weddings, mourn over the dead ?
21:23 asciilifeform funeral is the only remaining major party among some of these people.
21:23 mircea_popescu so annyoing, these children of mae pollitt.
21:23 asciilifeform (they don't marry, they don't x, or y, or z, but everybody dies)
21:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00076516 = 5.7387 BTC [-]
21:23 mircea_popescu good people come from eve and bad people spawned off lillith, but americans all crawled out from between the thighs of one mae pollitt!
21:24 mircea_popescu check me out, i'm poetic!
21:24 asciilifeform !s mae pollitt
21:24 assbot 0 results for 'mae pollitt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mae+pollitt
21:24 asciilifeform hm.
21:25 mircea_popescu wife of "big daddy wanted me to become a lawyer, I became a lawyer. he said get married, I got married. he said have kids and i had kids and now he can't stand them. so he never loved me. fine! but I appeal to your common decency! gimme some money!"
21:25 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1277080 << what is this
21:25 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 23:06:12; shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/2ymj2wJ.png <<< allah snackbar!
21:25 deedbot- [Qntra] BitPay Claims Hack Amounting to 5000 Bitcoins - http://qntra.net/2015/09/bitpay-claims-hack-amounting-to-5000-bitcoins/
21:26 mircea_popescu holy shit. AGAIN !?
21:26 asciilifeform l0l!!
21:26 asciilifeform 'Bitpay tried to get its insurer to cover $950,000 of the loss, but in June the insurer declined to pay. Bitpay is now suing the insurer.' << gold
21:27 asciilifeform now insurance fraud as well.
21:28 mircea_popescu this is not fraud, it's a commercial dispute.
21:28 BingoBoingo https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/09/16/cnn-captures-glorious-split-screen-moment-between-donald-trump-and-rand-paul/
21:28 assbot CNN captures glorious split-screen moment between Donald Trump and Rand Paul - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1iio1zt )
21:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ianal, but if they 'lost' the money and ~planned~ to milk the insurer, it is fraud
21:29 asciilifeform "He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”
21:29 mircea_popescu well obviously misrepresentation in commercial matter is the substance of fraud, but so far, not there
21:30 asciilifeform reminds me of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1253912
21:30 assbot Logged on 28-08-2015 01:24:38; mircea_popescu: the people in life are people from movies,
21:30 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277148 < a clock it seems > http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/
21:30 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:25:19; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1277080 << what is this
21:30 assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fh7xSF )
21:30 asciilifeform re: the 'clock bomb'
21:31 asciilifeform it is in the völkischer beobachter now
21:31 asciilifeform https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/09/16/a-clock-is-not-a-bomb-ahmeds-arrest-and-why-we-cant-have-nice-things
21:31 assbot A clock is not a bomb. Ahmed’s arrest and why we can’t have nice things. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Krb3dB )
21:32 kakobrekla “They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.
21:32 kakobrekla “I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”
21:32 kakobrekla “He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”
21:32 kakobrekla ahahaha
21:32 kakobrekla if it looks like a move bomb it must be real!
21:33 BingoBoingo !b 5
21:33 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EV0PNE.txt )
21:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/022HWH4
21:34 assbot dpaste: 022HWH4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrbjJQ )
21:35 mircea_popescu buncha fucken idiots.
21:35 mircea_popescu pity kids don't talk back more, you know ? "and you look like a movie idiot to me. where's that leave us."
21:35 mircea_popescu then they wonder why no girls throwing panties. well... this would be it eh.
21:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1J3AHVW
21:38 assbot dpaste: 1J3AHVW ... ( http://bit.ly/1iioT77 )
21:39 mircea_popescu aok then.
21:40 BingoBoingo I am ingnoratish in some matters. Also drinking anxiety vodka hoping my horse Rand can get the seven minutes.
21:40 mircea_popescu is that tonite ?
21:40 asciilifeform https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPCYHKzVAAAJG6w.jpg:large << close-up photograph. if i could bet on this, i would bet a few coin that he ~busted open an ordinary alarm clock~ to make this
21:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iip02I )
21:41 asciilifeform as in, not even soldered anything.
21:41 asciilifeform MIT-worthy!!
21:42 asciilifeform notice the object in the lower half of the attache. it is a mains transformer. plug still attached.
21:42 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> is that tonite ? Yeah but I dun have cable, refuse adobeFlasherast, and can't torrent a livestream so must wait.
21:42 mircea_popescu "It is not uncommon for the family to buy two or even three grave plots for burial."
21:42 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
21:42 asciilifeform in the left side of the hinge, there is a 9v battery connector, hanging loose.
21:42 asciilifeform he broke apart a perfectly good clock.
21:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's nothing wrong with kid breaking up the shit in the house to make a shitty lesser something
21:43 mircea_popescu up until the age of about 13 or so anyway
21:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not per se. but this is being pushed as 'scholar'
21:43 asciilifeform 'engineering'
21:43 mircea_popescu well the usians are retarded.
21:43 asciilifeform mr o: 'hey kid, nice clock, bring it to white house!'
21:43 asciilifeform i shit thee not, official communique
21:43 mircea_popescu 13 yo performance, in the united states of america and the republic of congo, counts as scholarly engineering.
21:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: is this observation qntra-worthy?
21:44 asciilifeform eh, why even bother.
21:45 mircea_popescu can always make a comment
21:46 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: is this observation qntra-worthy? << If you want to write it up or just drop it as a comment I have no reason to deny you that.
21:47 mircea_popescu Kampfblatt der nationalsozialistischen Bewegung Großdeutschlands!!!
21:47 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
21:47 mircea_popescu kampf BLATT! fucking perfect.
21:47 mircea_popescu blat, in romanian, is the bread of a cake.
21:48 asciilifeform in ru something quite else
21:48 mircea_popescu so, "the warlike dough" so to speak
21:48 asciilifeform does not actually translate to english
21:48 mircea_popescu aha :)
21:52 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: posted.
21:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Approved
21:54 asciilifeform this does not cancel the idiocy of the whole thing, imho only enhances it
21:54 BingoBoingo Seriously
21:56 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Bundesarchiv_Bild_133-075%2C_Worms%2C_Antisemitische_Presse%2C_%22Stürmerkasten%22.jpg << how the fuck can these people read newspaper print from two feet away.
21:56 assbot 501 Not Implemented ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiql9z )
21:56 mircea_popescu fucking master race check that out.
21:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2015/09/war-on-engineering-teen-arrested-for-building-clock/#comment-58011
21:56 assbot War on Engineering: Teen Arrested for Building Clock | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiqlX8 )
21:56 mircea_popescu i bet they didn't even need glasses aged 12.
21:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the advent of crt ruined eyes
21:57 asciilifeform everybody's mother, turns out, was right.
21:57 mircea_popescu must be.
21:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l
21:58 asciilifeform fwiw, my brother, who did not see a computer until adulthood, has perfect vision.
21:58 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: the advent of crt ruined eyes << First summer after high school when exposed to computer monitors daily for extended periods of time first... Eyesight measurably worsened, kept myself to panel display only as much as I can after that
21:59 mircea_popescu i have perfect vision, in spite of being on computers since about age 9. nevertheless, that distance is still uncomfortable for the purpose.
22:00 asciilifeform different folks can take different amount of abuse before permanent mutilation, sure.
22:01 BingoBoingo Up until that summer I used to be able to get all but the last line on the snell chart without effort. Last line could get about 75% nao cursed with 20/20 ish vision
22:03 mircea_popescu 20/20 is not perfect ? merely normal ?
22:04 asciilifeform it is sorta analogous to '100 iq'
22:04 asciilifeform iirc.
22:04 asciilifeform 'you will receive the standard substandard education!' -- 'tron'
22:06 mircea_popescu this mention of the snellen chart finally jarred my understanding of the very widespread misconception that closing eye improves aim accuracy
22:06 mircea_popescu THE DOCTOR MAKES YOU CLOSE ONE EYE
22:06 mircea_popescu this, of course, because he is diagnosing one item at a time
22:06 asciilifeform aha.
22:06 mircea_popescu but "the intuition" thus formed is that you see better
22:06 asciilifeform of course, if you have a monstrously uneven nearsightedness, you ~do~ see better
22:07 asciilifeform but somehow i don't think this applies to most folks afflicted with 'one-eyed' aim
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13449 @ 0.00076106 = 10.2355 BTC [-]
22:09 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> but somehow i don't think this applies to most folks afflicted with 'one-eyed' aim << The reason for closing one eye is reaction speed and avoiding "noise" that emerges in binocular vision when eyes are disparate in their image quality.
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=1 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=2 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=3 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=4 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=5 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=6 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=7 out of range
22:09 asciilifeform ERROR: SignatureHash() : nOut=8 out of range........
22:09 asciilifeform repeated 10,001 times
22:09 asciilifeform for fuck's sake.
22:10 asciilifeform i suppose this is the opposite magnetic pole from chicks throwing panties at you
22:10 BingoBoingo Probably.
22:10 asciilifeform is that thing actually relayed by somebody, or cooked special-order for my box, i wonder.
22:11 BingoBoingo it wasn't my node, though it is peering with zoolag instead of Dulap nao
22:11 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
22:11 gribble Current Blocks: 374868 | Current Difficulty: 5.695764845501001E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 374975 | Next Difficulty In: 107 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 5 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
22:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: zoolag is my only remaining operating node.
22:11 asciilifeform (not counting incitatus, which is a thousand blocks behind)
22:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37081 @ 0.00075532 = 28.008 BTC [-] {3}
22:12 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Depending on how this bet goes I may get planned node Quantrill running sometime next month.
22:12 asciilifeform neato
22:12 asciilifeform at one point i had a thought: that one might win from logging monstrous tx-en
22:13 BingoBoingo Just waiting to see if Apel refreshes the Mac Mini to drop used prices some more
22:13 asciilifeform a good chunk of these is, likely, attempts at massage
22:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why on earth would you buy crapple unless intending to run their bizarre os
22:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: machine of equivalent horsepower and physical dimensions costs around a benjie, brand-new.
22:15 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/STvv9k2.jpg << and the end of bitfinex
22:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iis6DV )
22:15 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: machine of equivalent horsepower and physical dimensions costs around a benjie, brand-new. << Not of identical appearance though. Still looking at that model specific colo niche
22:16 mircea_popescu apparently they DIDNT actually pay off all the 10-50mn they owed people for their most recent fraudulent move.
22:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l! they're still alive ??!!!
22:16 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why does it need to have identical appearance?
22:16 mircea_popescu the land of fictitious persons is mostly notable in a dire absence of death.
22:16 asciilifeform now this is a certainty.
22:17 asciilifeform they die, but quietly mummify in the cold vacuum.
22:17 mircea_popescu myeah
22:17 mircea_popescu not even always quietly.
22:19 asciilifeform i do confess, i expected them to get away with it
22:19 asciilifeform cleanly
22:19 asciilifeform (that is, that 'crime pays' for so long as it involves moving btc to usg coffers and not otherwise)
22:19 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: why does it need to have identical appearance? << Apparently Mac Mini in particular is a colocation niche
22:20 asciilifeform ah now i vaguely recall this.
22:20 asciilifeform (old thread)
22:20 mircea_popescu it's more complicated than that. a very complex balancing act of multiple separate agencies and the overriding consideration of "is the image hit worth it" all evaluated through multiple layers.
22:20 mircea_popescu it's a full time job. of the nature and substance of learning to secure windows installations.
22:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: https://macstadium.com/ and other cheaper options, leader at this point because apparently have "DDoS mitigation"
22:21 assbot MacStadium - Dedicated Mac Mini Hosting, Colocation, and Cloud Solutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE6ajV )
22:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'ddos mitigation' is virtually guaranteed not to help you. likely - the opposite.
22:21 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> apparently they DIDNT actually pay off all the 10-50mn they owed people for their most recent fraudulent move. << care to qntra it?
22:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4619 @ 0.00075138 = 3.4706 BTC [-]
22:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << there is a trilema
22:22 assbot So the broomstick fired. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3duik )
22:22 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: 'ddos mitigation' is virtually guaranteed not to help you. likely - the opposite. << ANd then move to one of the ten or so other providers
22:22 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << there is a trilema << But the trilema is not their failure to pay
22:22 assbot So the broomstick fired. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3duik )
22:23 mircea_popescu mmmm
22:23 mircea_popescu meh.
22:23 mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3l37lp/did_the_bitcoin_xt_died/cv32dgx
22:23 assbot cryptonaut420 comments on Did the bitcoin xt died? ... ( http://bit.ly/1iisORD )
22:23 mircea_popescu fucking epic.
22:23 mircea_popescu "Gavin and mike are busy travelling again this month https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bitcoin-xt/l0PA7UBuH9s
22:23 assbot Google Groupes ... ( http://bit.ly/1iisP7Z )
22:23 mircea_popescu The rest of us are busy working, and also a lot of people starting school and stuff so this is a slow period in general."
22:24 mircea_popescu i think the bitcoin xt might have did the died.
22:24 mircea_popescu but the shit artists are, of course, "traveling".
22:24 mircea_popescu which is why they call them "traveling people" historically, or "conference scum" more recently.
22:25 asciilifeform 'Jeszcze ' Bitcoin XT ' nie zginęła, / Kiedy my żyjemy. / Co nam obca przemoc wzięła, / Szablą odbierzemy.' (tm) (r) (pl)
22:25 mircea_popescu "We have plenty of time to see how this debate plays out. There is overwhelming support from the community, the merchant ecosystem and miners for a blocksize increase. If Core fails to sort out its governance issues, then by the time this problem really comes to the fore, XT will be the only solution implemented and readily available,"
22:25 mircea_popescu i bet the author is this stupid fat kid that's "a feminist" and also "really supports" womenz.
22:26 mircea_popescu and you know, once they get their bad boy issues sorted, he'll be the only one ready, lubed up and with a (6 inch!) erection going!
22:27 mircea_popescu http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemontgomery/2015/09/15/bitcoin-is-only-the-beginning-for-blockchain-technology/ << still with this ? seriously ?
22:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iit8jg )
22:27 mircea_popescu see alf, they never die. they just keep derping
22:28 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i bet the author is this stupid fat kid that's "a feminist" and also "really supports" womenz. << You forget the FUDA: Fat Usurped Dick Area... Basically when the pubic fat is too much for the dick to be externally visible
22:28 mircea_popescu o.O
22:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l!
22:28 mircea_popescu this happens doesn't it.
22:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: is there a magic point, one wonders
22:28 asciilifeform where it... envaginates
22:28 BingoBoingo It happens
22:28 mircea_popescu so basically dudes get so fucking fat there's an ad hoc slit created around their cock
22:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Lemme dig for a medical photograph
22:28 mircea_popescu which doesn't have any of the antibacterial and drainage benefits of the female version
22:28 mircea_popescu good god
22:28 asciilifeform if only p. t. barnum lived today !
22:29 mircea_popescu this conversation just blew my mind
22:29 asciilifeform !b 13
22:29 assbot Last 13 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EQ6YR7.txt )
22:29 mircea_popescu dude no wonder they're misrepresenting themselves as "gay" and "transsexual" and whatnot.
22:29 mircea_popescu if you're sufficiently stupid and fat, that really becomes your gender.
22:29 mircea_popescu there's male, female and stupidfat.
22:29 BingoBoingo first lol reddit
22:29 mod6 ok. try out http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/vpatch-nodes.html
22:29 assbot VPATCH_GRAPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp )
22:30 asciilifeform i suspect that ~this~ magical apogee is not reached until you get to 'too big for the crematorium' max level.
22:30 asciilifeform mod6: this is perfect.
22:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a product. 50% stupid 50% fat is more stupidfat than 150% fat 5% stupid.
22:30 mod6 put the leafs to the same rank, and added the source file names to the arrows. some of the arrow heads come together, so just zoom in and hover over the line if need be.
22:30 mod6 thanks asciilifeform
22:31 asciilifeform finally, 'v' is useful !
22:31 mircea_popescu ok that's pretty awersome mod6
22:31 asciilifeform works ~exactly~ as i envisioned
22:32 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277142 << it's because of Eve that none are good
22:32 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:23:59; mircea_popescu: good people come from eve and bad people spawned off lillith, but americans all crawled out from between the thighs of one mae pollitt!
22:32 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277197 << not unlike noob crafters in Eulora?
22:32 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:42:58; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's nothing wrong with kid breaking up the shit in the house to make a shitty lesser something
22:32 asciilifeform more or less what i pictured when http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-08-2015#1238291
22:32 assbot Logged on 15-08-2015 00:12:27; asciilifeform: a versioning system that is merely a few kb of script
22:33 asciilifeform mod6: ~and~ this displays without horizontal scrolling on all of my displays.
22:33 asciilifeform mega-win.
22:33 mircea_popescu !rated mod6
22:33 assbot You rated user mod6 on 27-Nov-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: The cave, age, tace school of thought. Nice work with the Bitcoin Foundation..
22:34 mircea_popescu yeah. mod6 for president.
22:35 BingoBoingo NOT SAFE FOR LIFE https://slimgur.com/image/z02
22:35 assbot 34d8cf0a66dd51181d6adc61282ae6f6 - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE7uTW )
22:35 mod6 thanks mircea_popescu
22:36 BingoBoingo ALso fastest qntra climb on reddit so far https://archive.is/tZNTs
22:36 assbot BitPay Claims Hack Amounting to 5000 Bitcoins : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE7zqW )
22:36 asciilifeform all that remains is to bolt a patch-eater onto it and then the classical turdatron can enjoy a quiet retirement
22:36 mircea_popescu dude no fucking way
22:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> i suspect that ~this~ magical apogee is not reached until you get to 'too big for the crematorium' max level. << Apparently not even that big
22:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that poor schmuck can't even seppuku without grazing his cock
22:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Seriously
22:38 asciilifeform (and would he have to use a full katana, instead of the usual wakizashi ?)
22:38 BingoBoingo May actually have to use one of those hydraulic log splitters
22:38 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
22:38 asciilifeform yes
22:40 asciilifeform mod6: possible idea for future graph: colour the patches officially blessed by mod6+ben_vulpes green
22:40 asciilifeform ('release')
22:40 mod6 solid idea, Sir.
22:40 mod6 easy enough to add that logic in
22:40 mod6 (famous last words)
22:41 mircea_popescu mod6 no, do this : use the color bits!
22:41 asciilifeform alternatively, chessboard-alternate colour of patches included in releases; ones not included, remain white
22:41 mircea_popescu there are what, 24 bits of color ? take the 24 signatories most highly ranked by mike and set or unset bytes accordingly.
22:41 mircea_popescu can this be done ?
22:41 mod6 oh huh!
22:41 mod6 im sure something can be done there.
22:42 mod6 :]
22:42 asciilifeform set the text to be negated 24 bits of this, to remain readable
22:42 asciilifeform this would make it a little hard to indicate actually-released-vs-not, though, no ?
22:43 mircea_popescu well because of the nature of the svg, you actually get very predictablew coloring
22:43 mircea_popescu because you can add your own postprocessing to null out some bytes.
22:43 mircea_popescu some bits*
22:43 mircea_popescu ie your green if foundation signed can be interpreted from it if one so wishes in one linbe
22:43 asciilifeform iirc it takes standard vga 24-bit colour for text and background
22:44 mircea_popescu ya
22:44 mod6 it's this kinda thing: http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/manual/att_colors.html
22:44 * asciilifeform pulls svg spec down from shelf, blows off eons of dust
22:45 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/EYlcU
22:45 assbot Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiuLNU )
22:45 mircea_popescu mod6 ya, RGB: rgb(255,0,128) (0 .. 255, 0 .. 255, 0 .. 255) << so basically its 01010101 10101010 01010101
22:46 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3l844m/email_from_cftc_asking_about_bitfinex_trading << l0l
22:46 assbot Email from CFTC asking about BitFinex trading activities : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1iiuR80 )
22:46 mircea_popescu this would indicate that of the collection of people who signed, the 2nd 4th 6th 8th 9th 11th 13th etc signed it
22:47 asciilifeform woah the arrow mouseovers work !!
22:47 mircea_popescu :D
22:48 mircea_popescu i wanna send this guy a cookie or something i like him so much
22:48 mod6 awe :]
22:48 mod6 yup, now you have descendants
22:49 asciilifeform i officially take back the thing i said re: things not getting done until i do them ...!
22:49 BingoBoingo !b 2
22:49 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/008R957.txt )
22:49 mod6 that part of the code is gnarly. gotta re-work a bunch of this.
22:50 mircea_popescu mod6 i take it that the idea of making V the epicenter of bitcoin releases going further is aprpoved by the foundation ?
22:51 * mircea_popescu will send 1 btc to the foundation donation nao, because srsly.
22:51 mod6 it is by me anyway!
22:51 mod6 Thank you, Sir!
22:53 * BingoBoingo humbly requests a knowledgeable party write a qntra on the recent v-gasm
22:53 asciilifeform btw this is the picture i needed to finally say clearly how 'v' ~was meant to work~
22:54 mod6 'V' is beautiful in its simplicity.
22:54 asciilifeform a 'press' of, e.g., bleeding-edge would take asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch and asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch as the 'head' arguments.
22:55 asciilifeform right now it takes asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch - but this is misleading, because it does not in fact depend on asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch
22:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33353 @ 0.00076419 = 25.488 BTC [+] {5}
22:56 mod6 that's one of the next things i have to tackle, aside from the cleanup of some stuff: press
22:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00076592 = 27.2668 BTC [+]
23:00 asciilifeform other thing worth noting is how it would behave with multiple root ('genesis') nodes
23:00 asciilifeform this will happen, for example, when we finally... add a file
23:00 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277129 << i can't read 'ivanovich' without thinking of anna karenina, but there was no ivan there iirc. where's this from, mircea_popescu ?
23:00 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:19:09; mircea_popescu: "the other residents of the drab soviet prefab block of flats always envied ivan ivanovich, for this inept pretense of normalcy that he found himself on the receiving end of, even if in all fairness it was not really his fault."
23:01 pete_dushenski not that anna karenina lived in a time of soviet flats...
23:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: incidentally, how is 'qntra' meant to be spoken? i will confess that to me it is 'kvantra', rhyming with 'mantra'
23:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Mentally I pronounce it Cunt-Raw
23:05 asciilifeform l0l neat
23:05 BingoBoingo But mantra is fine too
23:06 pete_dushenski i read 'quant-tra'
23:07 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Or numeric posts are small, quant is prolly inaccurate at this time, but you know how to fix that...
23:07 pete_dushenski indeed :)
23:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: another conundrum that bedevils me, what is the 'correct' way to open the -92 !?
23:08 asciilifeform i feel like i'm mangling it every time i pull that lid off.
23:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I just rip the lid off and stopped doing that when I cracked the lid
23:08 asciilifeform hm, discovered that grasping the thing from both sides on top and mildly flexing towards the center makes it pop cleanly off.
23:09 asciilifeform this was suggested by the three finger-shaped ridges on each side.
23:09 asciilifeform was this thing built for martians or what.
23:09 asciilifeform i had to use my brain, this is obscene
23:09 BingoBoingo But everything else, intuitive
23:11 * asciilifeform celebrates mod6's achievement, with a tin of sprats
23:12 * BingoBoingo has tiny wheel of cheddar set out to achieve room temperature last night ready for a celebration. Fuck it V... will wait to see officialish clock on Rand time
23:12 mod6 asciilifeform: :D
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00076493 = 20.7296 BTC [-]
23:23 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277196 << this is evidently the definition of terrorism. no different than http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2015#1276902
23:23 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 01:42:46; asciilifeform: he broke apart a perfectly good clock.
23:23 assbot Logged on 16-09-2015 20:54:27; mircea_popescu: go break into their trunk box, cut the connection to home, install your own firmware ?
23:23 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/644338075527696384
23:24 pete_dushenski @RealIndyTails24 51m51 minutes ago: @JebBush Sorry George did 9/11 << lulzy reply
23:26 pete_dushenski "t the intracellular level, discoveries now reveal the existence of 'mitochondrial synapses' establishing mitochondrial networks, with defined chromatin-modifying mitochondrial output signals capable of orchestrating gene expression across the genome. These discoveries raise the possibility that in addition to their role as powerhouses and neuromodulators, mitochondria behave as intracellular signal-processing n
23:26 pete_dushenski etworks."
23:27 pete_dushenski so much for the second-grade-level 'mitochondria as the cell's powerplant' theory
23:27 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: mitochondria are alien in every sense
23:28 pete_dushenski aha. other life form internalised.
23:28 pete_dushenski symbiotised.
23:28 pete_dushenski permanently
23:31 asciilifeform https://github.com/Maratyszcza/PeachPy << l0l! python aficionados reinvent borland macroassembler !!
23:31 assbot Maratyszcza/PeachPy · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrizW4 )
23:32 BingoBoingo Well most mitochondria are capable of being culutred on their own in the manner of bacteria (what anyone seriously though 'mitochondiral dna' test were for any reason other chan cheaper?)
23:32 asciilifeform http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3242144155107453@naggum.no.html << obligatory
23:32 assbot Re: "Well, I want to switch over to replace EMACS LISP with Guile." - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrizFw )
23:33 BingoBoingo lol asciilifeform
23:33 asciilifeform Each and every time someone in the Computer Science field has a Bright Idea, the world had better be prepared to adapt, because Here Comes Genius and everything everybody has done needs to be done differently from now on, because This Genius Knows Best. Gratuitous re-invention is very appealing to some people. It means that they do not have to cope with anybody else's ideas. They may hope to garner support behind them, but th
23:33 asciilifeform ey sure are not going to be behind anybody else.'
23:35 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277338 << i lolled
23:35 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 02:29:29; mircea_popescu: if you're sufficiently stupid and fat, that really becomes your gender.
23:35 asciilifeform but is it actually necessary to be fat for this ?
23:35 asciilifeform or merely stupid.
23:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00076516 = 18.5551 BTC [+] {3}
23:36 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: to be androgenous instead of a man ?
23:36 asciilifeform no
23:36 asciilifeform to have 'stupid' as your gender.
23:37 BingoBoingo Prolly combinations.
23:38 BingoBoingo Stupid is prolly more somewhere along the lines of preference. Stupidly obeast though has physiolocical characteristics which necessitate identifying as fat-gendered among the afflicted
23:40 BingoBoingo Summary of reddit in lolvotes https://archive.is/bGaWl
23:40 assbot StubNuts comments on BitPay Claims Hack Amounting to 5000 Bitcoins ... ( http://bit.ly/1KihBrx )
23:41 BingoBoingo Reddit is mostly downvotes, it must take admin intervention for anything to appear upvoted prolly
23:46 asciilifeform anybody here an ml aficionado ?
23:46 asciilifeform phf ?
23:47 BingoBoingo ml?
23:47 BingoBoingo Great human moment for Jeb on marijuana. And he invoked America's most popular Bush. Mama! #NBC2016 #CNNDebate
23:47 BingoBoingo — Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) September 17, 2015
23:47 BingoBoingo Sorry Mom
23:47 BingoBoingo — Jeb Bush (@JebBush) September 17, 2015
23:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ml is a programming language
23:47 BingoBoingo AH
23:47 asciilifeform the original ultra-strong-typed lang
23:47 BingoBoingo Too many of those.
23:47 asciilifeform (not counting ada)
23:48 BingoBoingo THrow them all in the fire see which ones aren't too charred
23:48 asciilifeform this one's been roasting for a long time.
23:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: All in the same fire, add more coal.
23:49 BingoBoingo Same as dealing with SSD disposal
23:50 pete_dushenski easier if you have ssd by xerox
23:51 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Anything with silicon can burn to unreadable
23:51 pete_dushenski or explode
23:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> Each and every time someone in the Computer Science field has a Bright Idea, the world had better be prepared to adapt, because Here Comes Genius and everything everybody has done needs to be done differently from now on, because This Genius Knows Best. Gratuitous re-invention is very appealing to some people. << cstropes done by naggum. now that'd be a sight.
23:54 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> or merely stupid. <<< it's a product. best results (area) for equal sides. but astounding performance can be obtained even with only one of the two
23:56 * BingoBoingo now looking for concordant counts of tonight's speaking times
23:56 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
23:56 asciilifeform 'What do we do when we encounter double integrals? First, we cry. When we are done crying, we solve.'
23:56 asciilifeform who said this ?
23:56 mircea_popescu heh. srsly, what's the big deal ?
23:56 mircea_popescu triple are worse then ?
23:56 asciilifeform (found on www, unattributed. but this was brin the elder! he utters this a few weeks into the class.)
23:56 mircea_popescu n-sum over sums ? worse still ?
23:57 asciilifeform this was spoken to n00bz.
23:57 mircea_popescu he did intro classes too ?
23:57 mircea_popescu no wonder he looks like he sucked down a pickle through a garden hose.
23:57 asciilifeform hey they had him teach remedial math when he was fresh off the boat
23:57 asciilifeform to footballists.
23:58 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal/#comment-115361 << i am suspek this will be one of those articles where people come to cry their hurt butts long after anything.
23:58 assbot Let's address some of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrjJ3C )
23:58 asciilifeform only then promoted to people
23:58 mircea_popescu there's maybe 100 or so of them so far.
23:58 mircea_popescu spontaneous tearcombustion 5 years later sorta deal
23:58 BingoBoingo Quick lol https://archive.is/tbDVd
23:58 assbot Second Republican debate: Candidates pick women to be on $10 bill - POLITICO ... ( http://bit.ly/1KrjK7X )
23:58 mircea_popescu THAT is a debate ?
23:59 mircea_popescu there's really nobody left that both can read and watches daytime tv, is there.
23:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Tis a question, because beople are bopple are coters
23:59 BingoBoingo No there isn't
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