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00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00027586 = 1.0207 BTC [-]
00:10 danielpbarron http://i.imgur.com/xhkt8nC.png
00:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QWkggn )
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00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00029474 = 9.2254 BTC [+]
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01:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00029785 = 1.385 BTC [+]
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02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00029785 = 8.9206 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00029785 = 6.0166 BTC [+]
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00031091 = 10.6331 BTC [+] {2}
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00030741 = 8.8534 BTC [-] {2}
02:41 trinque cool, that works.
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02:57 cazalla any scoopbots revived/reloaded/ressurected around?
02:57 cazalla http://qntra.net/2015/05/deep-web-marketplace-go-betweener-faces-20-years-jail/
02:57 assbot Deep Web Marketplace Go-Betweener Faces 20 Years Jail | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1E3DlU4 )
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03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40672 @ 0.00029664 = 12.0649 BTC [-] {2}
03:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61662 @ 0.00028965 = 17.8604 BTC [-] {2}
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53468 @ 0.00028239 = 15.0988 BTC [-] {3}
03:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75166 @ 0.00026607 = 19.9994 BTC [-] {2}
04:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38700 @ 0.0002693 = 10.4219 BTC [+] {2}
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05:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.0002734 = 5.9054 BTC [+]
05:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54100 @ 0.00026275 = 14.2148 BTC [-] {2}
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07:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00028083 = 15.9511 BTC [+]
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07:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00028119 = 7.7608 BTC [+]
07:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00028179 = 4.1846 BTC [+]
07:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00028119 = 2.1933 BTC [-]
07:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00028017 = 4.2026 BTC [-]
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07:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118200 @ 0.00028401 = 33.57 BTC [+] {3}
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00029099 = 9.0498 BTC [+] {2}
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09:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00029272 = 13.3773 BTC [+] {2}
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09:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00028976 = 1.9704 BTC [-]
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10:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27975 @ 0.00029243 = 8.1807 BTC [+] {2}
10:05 danielpbarron cazalla, "Count 12, to which Gelli plead guilty to," << plead guilty,* (the 2nd 'to' is not needed)
10:12 danielpbarron http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/01/us-aviation-authority-boeing-787-dreamliner-bug-could-cause-loss-of-control
10:12 assbot US aviation authority: Boeing 787 software bug could cause 'loss of control' | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9VND7 )
10:14 danielpbarron "If the four main generator control units (associated with the engine-mounted generators) were powered up at the same time, after 248 days of continuous power, all four GCUs will go into failsafe mode at the same time, resulting in a loss of all AC electrical power regardless of flight phase." << apparently due to an integer overflow (248 days == 2^31 * 1/100 seconds)
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10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31309 @ 0.00028886 = 9.0439 BTC [-]
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10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00028841 = 6.0133 BTC [-] {2}
11:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43650 @ 0.00028643 = 12.5027 BTC [-] {2}
11:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.0002852 = 11.3224 BTC [-] {2}
11:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00029385 = 12.1948 BTC [+] {3}
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13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26872 @ 0.00028155 = 7.5658 BTC [-] {2}
13:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13873 @ 0.0002797 = 3.8803 BTC [-]
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13:49 mircea_popescu yo williamdunne ! scoopbot's dead ?
13:49 mircea_popescu !up williamdunne
13:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-05-2015#1118214 << and the prize for this year's least useful error report goes to...
13:51 assbot Logged on 01-05-2015 19:40:29; ascii_field: search - does not work worth a damn.
13:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66500 @ 0.00027845 = 18.5169 BTC [-] {2}
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14:11 davout mircea_popescu williamdunne do we have an authoritative list of the feeds somwhere?
14:14 mircea_popescu davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-04-2015#1107966 so far
14:14 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 13:00:22; mircea_popescu: williamdunne : btcalpha.com btctrading.wordpress.com cascadianhacker.com contravex.com devilsadvocate.biz explo.yt fr.anco.is www.loper-os.org pankkake.headfucking.net qntra.net blog.spagni.net thedrinkingrecord.com thestringpuller.tumbler.com thewhet.net trilema.com
14:14 mircea_popescu tho prolly needs some culling.
14:15 williamdunne davout: As MP linked
14:15 davout for when i'm bored enough
14:15 davout also would it be possible to rename it to scoopbot?
14:16 williamdunne I haven't got access to the scoopbot name, and the GPG key is registered to _revived
14:16 williamdunne But if those can be solved..
14:16 davout not that it matters that much but i feel we'll eventually end up with scoopbot_revived_II_ultimate
14:16 mircea_popescu maybe boobot
14:16 mircea_popescu since we have ass already
14:16 davout cuntbot
14:16 mircea_popescu davout so it'll be pretty lulzy
14:16 williamdunne gashbot
14:17 davout and then the prequel, scoopbot_origins
14:17 mircea_popescu williamdunne what had happened to it anyway ?
14:18 mircea_popescu mere_du_scoupbotte
14:18 williamdunne Connection is less than reliable
14:18 williamdunne His reupping function seems to not work so well
14:18 mircea_popescu aha
14:18 mircea_popescu but it wasnt in here at all, nothing to up
14:19 williamdunne I mean reconnecting
14:20 williamdunne i.e goes down, needs to get up again
14:22 mircea_popescu ah yes
14:22 davout while (!is_up?) { up! }
14:23 williamdunne Thats what the function is meant to do
14:23 williamdunne But for some reason it doesn't work
14:23 williamdunne That is the exact logic I used
14:23 williamdunne while(!irc.conncted) connect
14:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00027533 = 2.1751 BTC [-] {2}
14:24 trinque williamdunne: use runit
14:24 trinque the thing rules
14:24 davout (irc_connected? || connect_irc!) && (is_up? || up!) <<< the ruby way :D
14:25 trinque bleh!
14:25 mircea_popescu lol
14:26 trinque runit is the only service supervisor thing I've encountered that *does the right thing by default*
14:26 trinque -run the thing I gave you forever-
14:26 trinque every other one has five settings for "no really, restart the fucker if it dies"
14:26 davout needs moar cpanel
14:27 trinque lol
14:27 trinque cpaneld
14:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36164 @ 0.00027445 = 9.9252 BTC [-] {2}
14:27 davout start a few virtualized cpanels inside
14:27 davout "WE HEARD YOU LIEK CPANEL"
14:28 davout williamdunne: why u no cloak scoopbot? it's possible it's getting DDoS'd
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27759 @ 0.00027351 = 7.5924 BTC [-]
14:28 williamdunne Its not, its just on a wired connection. Eventually I'll cloak though
14:29 williamdunne *not on a
14:29 davout what does it have to do with being on wired connection?
14:29 williamdunne Wifi drops
14:29 williamdunne IRC disconnects
14:29 williamdunne Doesn't reconnect properly
14:29 mircea_popescu and you know this isn't ddos how ?
14:29 trinque what bot are you using
14:30 trinque williamdunne: check out my friend vhost-'s tenyks, it has a "feeds" plugin already
14:30 trinque dude's in the WoT
14:30 williamdunne Some .net framework, I'll check it out
14:30 davout meh, maybe you don't know but it's pretty often that anyone connecting uncloaked gets massively ddos'd
14:30 davout just do it, i'd bet the connection will stop dropping
14:31 williamdunne mircea_popescu: I don't know for sure, but it happened a lot before I even started using #b-a. Wifi connection drops and then I reconnect it and all is good
14:31 davout "i have a problem and then i fix it and then there's no problem"
14:31 davout try to cloak it will ya
14:32 williamdunne Will do
14:32 trinque williamdunne: that one's free, would be much shorter
14:33 williamdunne I've been told size doesn't matter
14:33 trinque well as long as you've been told...
14:33 * trinque lumbers off for coffee
14:33 williamdunne Can I change the name associated with Scoop's GPG key?
14:34 davout not sure your IRC nick needs to be the same as your wot nick
14:35 williamdunne It does, you get some message from ass like "no key associated with nick"
14:35 trinque assbot does take your IRC nick
14:35 trinque !up in pm takes whoever you are at the moment
14:36 williamdunne Just made some changes though, checks if connected in main loop rather than by doing it with an event
14:36 trinque btw deedbot- is now 29F5 BC96 7632 415A B983 6DB6 3E45 2A7A 2A00 DEC1
14:36 mircea_popescu williamdunne you might have to change scoopbot_revived to a new key then associate the old one to the nerw nic
14:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00027097 = 2.4929 BTC [-]
14:37 trinque leaving deedbot- rates wouldn't be a bad way to request features or give feedback imo
14:37 trinque tonight I'm going to work on it belching the deed URLs into chan when published, and I think that about wraps up the spec
14:38 williamdunne Pierre_Rochard: I think you misinterpreted Preston's tweet. He's derping about his Eris Industries blockchain as a DB idea
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14:38 williamdunne Oh, maybe you didn't
14:38 mircea_popescu agreed.
14:38 trinque this having a key for a given project is kinda neat, sort of trinque DBA deedbot-
14:39 mircea_popescu i meant, re teh leaving rates thing
14:39 trinque cool
14:39 * trinque departs
14:45 * mircea_popescu notices in the churned "social media" data that "address reuse" has gone from "unanimity" to "most people recommend" "in most cases".
14:46 mircea_popescu the beauty of the free market is that it doesn't require intelligent participants, nor does it allow governance.
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143815 @ 0.00028008 = 40.2797 BTC [+] {5}
14:51 scoopbot_revived News! That scary thing URL: http://trilema.com/2015/that-scary-thing/
14:52 mircea_popescu pray the esteemed lordship consider the above matter.
14:53 williamdunne m'lord
15:01 davout interdasting
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29642 @ 0.00028869 = 8.5573 BTC [+]
15:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44511 @ 0.00027916 = 12.4257 BTC [-] {2}
15:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118446 << if you want more, there's a never ending, teeming underground sea of the same thing. like, for instance : http://malesubmissionart.com/post/113014006426/and-then-god-said-let-there-be-the-perfect
15:07 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 02:34:08; *: asciilifeform just ran into this ancient piece, http://cultureandempire.wikidot.com/page:ch03-p4 (from somewhere in mircea_popescu's www) and marvels at the 'borges's chinese encyclopaedia' surreal perversity of it all
15:08 assbot Male Submission Art - And Then God Said, "Let There Be The Perfect... ... ( http://bit.ly/1KCZQEE )
15:08 mircea_popescu this one, dedicated to the theme that "bsdm is bad".
15:08 mircea_popescu but generally, you can find incredibly ample if very well unknown networks of prose dedicated to any random nonsense you wish to pick.
15:09 mircea_popescu the social studies million army may well be useless, but it is not in point of fact idle. the important difference is that while the printing presses of money are run as fast as they can run but by a central authority, the printing presses of discourse are run in overdrive independently.
15:09 mircea_popescu as a result, the countless shanonizers are inches away from reproducing shakespeare.
15:11 mircea_popescu cazalla who in the us ~doesn't~ face 20 years in jail, i wish to know. it's what that country is predicated on, by now. "i am a us citizen and i face twenty years in jail three times before breakfast. i hope they give us marmelade today".
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15:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118499 << bwhaah
15:12 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 14:14:00; danielpbarron: "If the four main generator control units (associated with the engine-mounted generators) were powered up at the same time, after 248 days of continuous power, all four GCUs will go into failsafe mode at the same time, resulting in a loss of all AC electrical power regardless of flight phase." << apparently due to an integer overflow (248 days == 2^31 * 1/100 seconds)
15:16 davout so apparently an A380 can't go to mars after all
15:17 mircea_popescu how is failsafe mode = "no worky"
15:17 davout that's how I read "a loss of all AC electrical power"
15:18 mircea_popescu me too. but it really isn't what failsafe means.
15:18 mircea_popescu this is faildangerous
15:19 davout I'm not an expert in the field, yet, but maybe what's meant by "failsafe" is: "it's better to shut power down than to somehow explode inflight"
15:19 mircea_popescu o guess
15:19 mircea_popescu i*
15:21 davout for an A380 you'll still have an available flying distance of 22 times your altitude to figure something out
15:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18225 @ 0.00028869 = 5.2614 BTC [+]
15:23 mircea_popescu to figure something out ?
15:23 mircea_popescu what pray tell will you figure out, that thing steers like a battleship.
15:26 davout mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised http://videos.airbus.com/video/4ae05902874s.html
15:26 assbot video Farnborough 2012 – An attention-grabbing A380 flight demonstration - a380, malaysia airlines, farnborough2012 - videos AIRBUS ... ( http://bit.ly/1KD2eeG )
15:27 mircea_popescu hopefully the pilots brought flap actuator batteries and whatnot
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15:42 Pierre_Rochard http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118591 < yup, I’m hoping all of the “blockchain database tech”/“smart contracts”/etc crud gets funneled away from Bitcoin and into $chumpatron
15:42 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 18:38:05; williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: I think you misinterpreted Preston's tweet. He's derping about his Eris Industries blockchain as a DB idea
15:43 williamdunne "Its like bitcoin, but not scarce, not a currency, and has centralized permissions"
15:44 mircea_popescu lol
15:45 Pierre_Rochard insofar as they’re distracting the bezzlers, I see it as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bodyguard
15:45 assbot Operation Bodyguard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EMdlBs )
15:45 williamdunne Also equally lulzy "its like a ***sql database, but uses the exact opposite of concurrency, has high latency, and low throughput"
15:46 Pierre_Rochard god forbid one should have to hire a DBA they trust
15:46 mircea_popescu you don't understand, "The State will use economies of scale to make the bitcoin network too expensive/impossible to use."
15:46 mircea_popescu im really enjoying the qntra comment section.
15:48 williamdunne Not sure what economies of scale have to do with it
15:48 williamdunne They just have more money
15:49 Pierre_Rochard williamdunne: one handwave in south america can cause a hurricane in florida. that’s the theory right?
15:49 williamdunne Mm I'm not meaning they could, I'm just thinking about what they think they could do
15:49 williamdunne I'm guessing they mean flooding the network with TXs
15:49 williamdunne Which has nothing to do with economies of scale
15:50 mircea_popescu "economy of scale" is simply one item in the shanonizer.
15:50 mircea_popescu like racism, social justice, what have you.
15:50 Pierre_Rochard Or nationalize Visa and ACH and make them free & instant, which is what I would do if I was in charge of keeping the USbezzle going
15:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29770 @ 0.00026986 = 8.0337 BTC [-] {2}
15:50 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard europe already did this. it's called sepa, and it doesn't do anything.
15:51 williamdunne mircea_popescu: No, they didn't
15:51 williamdunne SEPA isn't free or instant
15:51 williamdunne Closest thing would be UK FP I guess
15:51 williamdunne Singapore FAST
15:51 williamdunne SA whatever its called
15:51 mircea_popescu uk is roughly the size of a chickenshit.
15:51 williamdunne Malaysia something network
15:51 mircea_popescu the idea here is that payments clear across a continent as if they would in the home market.
15:52 williamdunne ACH isn't international
15:52 williamdunne Although it takes as long as a wire sometimes
15:52 mircea_popescu that's the idea.
15:52 williamdunne So maybe it still meets that criteria
15:52 williamdunne But yeah. No excuse for payments to take anything more than 5 seconds
15:52 williamdunne ***once initiated
16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00026853 = 5.5854 BTC [-]
16:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128900 @ 0.00027544 = 35.5042 BTC [+] {2}
16:10 mircea_popescu !up Sam___
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16:27 mircea_popescu http://waystoavoidscamsonline.com/how-does-alexa-track-traffic-do-they-really-have-a-grasp-of-your-traffic << check it out, random webkid with a dream.
16:27 assbot How Does Alexa Track Traffic – Do They Really Have a Grasp of Your Traffic? - Ways to Avoid SCAMS Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPzy0I )
16:40 mod6 ;;bc,stats
16:40 gribble Current Blocks: 354691 | Current Difficulty: 4.761056451347126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 354815 | Next Difficulty In: 124 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 20 hours, 6 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47786148588.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.36879
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16:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00027649 = 7.8247 BTC [+]
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.00026854 = 18.4084 BTC [-] {2}
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17:29 scoopbot_revived News! F.MPIF April 2015 trading statement URL: http://explo.yt/post/2015/05/02/F.MPIF-April-2015-trading-statement
17:37 asciilifeform davout: the generator thing was in boeing's 787 machine, not airbus ?
17:38 jurov yes, it was 787
17:39 jurov perhaps he mixed it up with A380 cracks
17:45 hanbot <jurov> https://mobile.twitter.com/kellyoxford/status/481497873461161987 hanbot, you're married then? << hah, as though i could hear anyone over the roar of my own kvetching
17:46 assbot Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1EMqFpq )
17:53 cazalla danielpbarron, ty
17:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48471 @ 0.00026765 = 12.9733 BTC [-] {2}
17:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20248 @ 0.00025762 = 5.2163 BTC [-] {2}
17:59 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118614 <<< hang about, i thought they faced the hangman's noose, not 20 years
17:59 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 19:11:43; mircea_popescu: cazalla who in the us ~doesn't~ face 20 years in jail, i wish to know. it's what that country is predicated on, by now. "i am a us citizen and i face twenty years in jail three times before breakfast. i hope they give us marmelade today".
18:01 trinque lol, some kind of inverse alice in wonderland
18:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00027649 = 8.1841 BTC [+]
18:09 scoopbot_revived News! A brief history of the Bitcoin Foundation's activity from 10/2014 through 4/2015 URL: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/02_a-brief-history-of-the-bitcoin-foundations-activity-from-102014-through-42015.html
18:10 ben_vulpes chronology, maybe?
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18:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00026255 = 9.4781 BTC [-]
18:36 mircea_popescu yeah.
18:40 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes also "myriad scripts and patches to said are written" is not useful.
18:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: broadcast sent
18:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and when you do the invoice in this one, plz also convert the pesos i left behind, supposing those still were worth something.
18:43 scoopbot_revived News! The case for the Salvation Army in downtown Edmonton. URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/02/the-case-for-the-salvation-army-in-downtown-edmonton/
18:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76460 @ 0.0002562 = 19.5891 BTC [-]
18:47 jurov http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=3030
18:47 assbot Unnoticed for years, malware turned Linux and BSD servers into spamming machines ... ( http://bit.ly/1DLgWul )
18:50 * asciilifeform meatspacing out for a spell
18:50 jurov checking your crontabs? :DDD
18:50 asciilifeform nah, cultural phun
18:57 jurov !up Ralph
18:58 jurov !up HostFat
18:58 jurov !up WolfGoethe
18:58 jurov !up OneFixt
18:59 Ralph Waiting for my payout on the "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" bet so I can bet the Mayweather - Pacquiao fight.
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19:02 jurov dunno what would happen if you generated an addy for second bet and used it straight as payout to first
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19:04 jurov kako'd prolly reward such smartassery by converting it to gracious donation to shareholders :D
19:04 Ralph It would work, but the betting address is only open for 3 days, so it would be a bad idea.
19:07 cazalla Ralph, which side are you betting on?
19:08 williamdunne When does the fight start?
19:08 cazalla 4 hours time
19:08 Ralph I don't mean to nag, but I don't know what's holding up the payout. Looks like the bitcoins for the payout are just sitting here --> 1QJRejN99TYnk8Ctae1ZxtMhmrgRqs6bPF
19:09 williamdunne cazalla: Its gonna be a loong night
19:09 jurov it may take a day or so, they are doing payouts on their leisure
19:09 Ralph I'm betting on a draw. The fix is in, Vegas wants a rematch.
19:10 cazalla draw pays ok
19:11 williamdunne I really want to see Mayweather get knocked the fuck out
19:11 williamdunne Doubt it'll happen though :(
19:12 jurov ;;gettrust jurov Ralph
19:12 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user jurov to user Ralph: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jurov&dest=Ralph | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Ralph | Rated since: never
19:13 jurov if you were in WoT, i'd offer you a quick loan
19:13 jurov but.
19:14 williamdunne ;;getrating Ralph
19:14 gribble Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
19:15 jurov he isn't regged with gribble at all
19:17 jurov https://medium.com/@noralev/what-happens-after-you-re-arrested-at-a-protest-in-new-york-975bb34fb47c
19:17 assbot What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York. — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1K0NyVT )
19:17 jurov she just calls it "one night of inconvenience and discomfort"
19:17 jurov fucking police state, this
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19:20 williamdunne >3 — Patrol Wagon: Those who were arrested were cuffed and piled into large armored patrol wagons. In our vehicle, men were all together in the back. Women were in single cells or double cells. We waited in the vehicle for over 2 hours without moving until they had filled it to their liking (we ended up with 12 people). The last two people who were arrested were not even part of the protests, they w
19:20 williamdunne just walking alongside.
19:20 williamdunne Orwell would be proud
19:20 williamdunne To see his book performed on the worlds largest theatre
19:26 ben_vulpes yes, three cheers
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21:15 Pierre_Rochard Got started with a couple of diagrams: http://pacio.li/Documentation/Introduction
21:15 assbot Pacioli ... ( http://bit.ly/1I6HPk2 )
21:16 ben_vulpes neat
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22:03 decimation re: ac power failure on 787 < actually my understanding is that most jetliners actually have a crank-out windmill to power basic navigation systems
22:04 decimation althought in the case of the 787 I think it lacks hydraulics, so it would take a fair bit of power to move the electric controls
22:11 decimation yes, indeed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tXobY4ZWbc < a video of the 787 landing with the ram air turbine (pop out windmill) deployed
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22:11 assbot Thai Airways 787 Dreamliner Landing w/ Focus on the RAM Air Turbine @ KPAE Paine Field - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dE27oo )
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22:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118707 << methinks it sohuld have showed up by now
22:33 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 22:59:54; Ralph: Waiting for my payout on the "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" bet so I can bet the Mayweather - Pacquiao fight.
22:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118708 << should prolly work.
22:33 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 23:02:20; jurov: dunno what would happen if you generated an addy for second bet and used it straight as payout to first
22:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118731 << the thing is, it's not even may yet. it's going to be a painful summer. that place's slowly but surely becoming ungovernable, and with the extreme frailty of the jit style they deployed everywhere... there's little if any redundancy.
22:35 assbot Logged on 02-05-2015 23:17:43; jurov: fucking police state, this
22:35 mircea_popescu all it takes practically is to break it once, then it's broken.
22:38 mircea_popescu "1 Police Plaza" lol. srsly ?
22:41 decimation note that the complaints of the rabble never hold up to any reasonable examination
22:42 decimation http://softwareandmind.com/ < some guy derping about the 'mechanistic myth'
22:42 assbot Software and Mind: The Mechanistic Myth and Its Consequences ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYM805 )
22:43 decimation "In this book we are concerned with one particular myth – the mechanistic myth; and we are especially concerned with its latest manifestation – the software myth. Mechanism is the belief that everything can be represented as a hierarchical structure; that is, as a structure of things within things."
22:43 mircea_popescu that's a particularly inept statement of mechanism.
22:43 decimation that's what I thought
22:44 mircea_popescu linear interactions.
22:44 mircea_popescu that everything can be put into a tree is a trivial bit of graph theory.
22:44 decimation apparently he goes on for 8 chapters about how this 'myth' is ruining western civilization
22:46 decimation "We are aware of lost alternatives only if we once had them. If we had to abandon words, for example, and restrict ourselves to ready-made sentences and ideas, we would immediately recognize the dramatic impoverishment in language-related processes."
22:46 decimation " But programming is a new human endeavour, and the software charlatans gained control of our software-related affairs, and restricted them, before we could discover all possible alternatives – all the ways that human minds can find to create and use software. Software controlled by an elite is the only software we have ever had, so we cannot know what we have lost."
22:47 decimation apparently he's just another shanonizer
22:48 cazalla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRe5IWlcYlU&app=desktop fight stream if anyone was looking for one
22:48 assbot django jesus2 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYMBj6 )
22:48 mircea_popescu does he go into "privilege" yet ?
22:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al: compare with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1118051 thread
22:49 assbot Logged on 01-05-2015 17:50:39; mircea_popescu: in a "consumer driven" ideas market... the "ideas" will look like the derps.
22:50 asciilifeform i used to have a whole butterfly collection of links to folks 'like my site but with schizo'
22:50 mircea_popescu lol
22:51 mircea_popescu girls have private collections of "like mp but with stupid"
22:51 decimation I was thinking about the quantity of language as I was going through my books today. amazon has an app that lets you scan a book - even just the cover picture - and it will instantly return the price
22:51 decimation the vast majority of books are selling used for $0.01
22:51 asciilifeform basic pattern, as in linked thread, folks see a problem. (typically, one that requires a certain amount of societal programming failing to anchor in the brain, or having been dislodged in one way or another) but do not have the constructive abilities to see anything but 'remove the cia microwave horn from the neighbour's balcony' as solution space
22:52 mircea_popescu decimation someone here had written the algorithm for that.
22:52 decimation yes, another quote: "Along with the mechanistic myth, our elites too have turned from good to 24 the mechanistic myth introduction bad. The elites defend the mechanistic myth because it is through this belief that they hold their privileged position."
22:53 asciilifeform www.celiagreen.com << rare female version of this animal
22:54 asciilifeform (summary: science is broken because, among other things, no one will give green a tenured mega-sinecure to study telepathy)
22:54 asciilifeform ^ summary of green's works, that is
22:54 asciilifeform tenacious critter, has been going at it for decades, it seems.
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22:56 mircea_popescu decimation i've noticed that a good heuristic is, if (grep -c "privilege" > 1) break;
22:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's bayesian antispamatron must be a real hoot
22:57 mircea_popescu somehow this idea that "privilege = bad" is getting passed around a certain group of idiots as given gospel.
22:57 mircea_popescu hasn't even been investigated at any point, it's just revelation or something.
22:57 asciilifeform they have more of a 'bad is privilege' thing
22:57 decimation well, he is also melding the idea that the 'software factory' model is retarded into this
22:58 decimation but I don't really follow that
22:58 mircea_popescu well the software factory is definitel yretarded.
22:58 asciilifeform decimation: the realization that software and computing in general as it exists is deeply and profoundly retarded, dawned on many people
22:58 mircea_popescu "Celia Green is a philosopher and psychologist"
22:58 mircea_popescu "that likes to write in the third person"
22:58 decimation sure, but does that mean that hierarchical classification is a conspiracy?
22:59 asciilifeform decimation: to some of these folks, the beige and black that pc chassis traditionally come in is the conspiracy
22:59 asciilifeform there are at least as many idiocies as there idiots to conceive of them
23:00 asciilifeform http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html << obligatory
23:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYNuIq )
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23:06 decimation "The mechanistic software beliefs, in particular, have permitted a powerful software elite to arise. In just a few decades, organizations that have in fact little to offer us have attained so much power that they practically control society. As we will see in the course of this book, their power rests almost entirely on mechanistic software delusions, and on the stupidity engendered by these delusions."
23:07 asciilifeform ^ cheap n-th generation plagiarism of weizenbaum (of eliza) 'computer power and human reason'
23:07 asciilifeform http://www.scribd.com/doc/174003340/Joseph-Weizenbaum-Computer-Power-and-Human-Reason-From-Judgement-to-Calculation-1976#scribd << warez copy
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23:07 assbot Joseph Weizenbaum Computer Power and Human Reason From Judgement to Calculation 1976 ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYOc8B )
23:09 asciilifeform (weizenbaum made specific predictions re: electronic enablement of massive welfare bureaucracy, etc.)
23:10 decimation yeah this guy seems to be derping that the 'software elites' have seized control and are starving the masses
23:17 decimation he reminds me of that jeron lanier guy
23:18 asciilifeform it somehow grates the ear less coming out of a broke schizo than a fella like lanier
23:18 mircea_popescu yeah. the powerful software elite is out there crushing its cessna in irs tax offices.
23:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: presumably the particular crackpot meant 'those who decide what is written' rather than the worker bees
23:19 mircea_popescu i wish to meet these people.
23:19 mircea_popescu as far as i know, not even linus "decides what is written"
23:19 mircea_popescu definitely nobody in redmond
23:19 asciilifeform they 'decide' to approximately the same degree as obama
23:19 asciilifeform largely, the structure of the idiotron decides for them.
23:20 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> ^ cheap n-th generation plagiarism of weizenbaum (of eliza) 'computer power and human reason' << this diagnosis is exactly correct, i am persuaded.
23:20 mircea_popescu pretty much all of the us consists of john smiths, rewriting the bible in their own name.
23:21 asciilifeform tbh weizenbaum is in no sense the originator of the 'mega-computerized bureaucracy will crush all souls' meme
23:21 decimation "Application development, thus, will soon require no programmers. An analyst or manager will specify the requirements by interacting with a sophisti- cated development system, and the computer will do the rest: “There is a major revolution happening in software and system design.... The revolution is the replacement of manual design and coding with automated design and coding.”Ñ "
23:21 asciilifeform but he is the single most articulate dissector of it, of the ones in my library, and so i pick him.
23:21 mircea_popescu kinda how culture works.
23:21 mircea_popescu shakespeare was also not the first to derp about derpy themes
23:22 decimation he didn't even write it, another guy with the same name did
23:22 mircea_popescu it was his wife, check your privilege
23:23 mircea_popescu (fun story : privileg was my first calculator.
23:23 * asciilifeform notices the resemblance to 'elektronika' series
23:24 mircea_popescu 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)
23:24 mircea_popescu 10 more if it's built from the ground up with anything in mind.
23:26 mircea_popescu speaking of which, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYDiPizDIs
23:26 assbot Monty Python - Theory on Brontosauruses by Anne Elk (Miss). - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYPPmA )
23:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.christophlorenz.de/calc/privileg/861-m-nc.php?l=en << it ?
23:28 assbot The Metatechnical Cabinet - Privileg 861-M-NC / Litronix 1721R ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYPXTf )
23:28 mircea_popescu nah smaller thing, solar powered
23:29 mircea_popescu bout the size of a biscuit. same thicknes throughout
23:29 mircea_popescu http://mycalcdb.free.fr/main.php?l=0&id=6017 this
23:29 assbot MyCalcDB :   Calculator  Privileg / Quelle  SOLAR 16 ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYQ1lW )
23:30 asciilifeform woah hightech
23:31 mircea_popescu it kicked ass, an dprobably set my expectations of machines in fields like responsivity for instance. or stress tolerance
23:31 * asciilifeform came from orcish lands where lcd was considered exotic tech
23:31 mircea_popescu (like, i'd cover it's cell and have it do stuff)
23:32 decimation actually lcds are worse in nearly ever respect other than power draw
23:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: probably set my expectations of machines in fields like responsivity for instance... << very tellingly, children in usa are now being issued with pocket calculators that have -palpable boot times- and delays on all basic ops
23:33 asciilifeform (e.g., texas instruments 'nspire' etc)
23:34 mircea_popescu hidebound reactionary" << wtf does this even mean
23:34 decimation asciilifeform: my hp48 was doing tons of processing under the hood, would never delay or have a 'boot time'
23:34 asciilifeform decimation: it wasn't running java
23:34 decimation except during intense graphing operations, etc
23:35 decimation no, it was running hand optimized assembly
23:35 mircea_popescu ayup
23:36 asciilifeform decimation: visit an electronics store and prepare to have brain come out of ears. i've had flashlights that -crashed.- i drive a car with a -buggy- thermostat controller. (made 12 yrs ago, too. the rot began long ago.)
23:36 mircea_popescu lol crashed flashlight wut
23:36 asciilifeform !s flashlight crash
23:36 assbot 2 results for 'flashlight crash' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=flashlight+crash
23:36 mircea_popescu nuts.
23:37 * mircea_popescu owned a half lb flashlight in TM. yet it had no processor.
23:37 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758167
23:37 assbot Logged on 16-07-2014 18:31:23; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: flashlight article << a decade or so ago, i had a flashlight that... crashed! when destroyed, it revealed a microcontroller, with eeprom...
23:38 mircea_popescu nuts
23:39 decimation asciilifeform: I have a friend who is an old graybeard EE, been working on actual circuitry since the 80's
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23:39 mircea_popescu https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/planets_in_the_4th_dimension/ << ok i must confess this is a kickass theory.
23:39 assbot Planets in the Fourth Dimension | Azimuth ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYQuoc )
23:39 mircea_popescu "why ellipses ? because circles in 4 dimensions project to 3 dimensional ellipses, that's why!"
23:40 decimation he said recently a sea change has come with kids coming out of school; they want to specify massive cpu, memory for very simple micro-controllers so they can run java
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23:45 mircea_popescu "Dr Green currently holds no salaried academic position, a situation her associates regard as profoundly anomalous and unjust. One of the purposes of Oxford Forum is to reinstate her in the academic world."
23:45 mircea_popescu ajaja
23:46 mircea_popescu The reason Dr Green is not a salaried academic is partly because her ideas are out of sympathy with the prevailing intellectual climate, but also because her education was ruined. A child prodigy, she was the victim of a hostile state education system, and an unsympathetic college when she was an undergraduate at Oxford. She is uniquely suited to doing research, and could be making significant progress in several areas
23:46 mircea_popescu of knowledge if she was not hampered by her exiled position and lack of funding.
23:46 mircea_popescu Oxford Forum's aim is to expand into an independent college cum university which would generate and publish research in several areas including philosophy, economics, the psychology and physiology of perception, and theoretical physics.
23:46 mircea_popescu epic.
23:46 cazalla another stream, fight starts now http://www.gutatv.biz/alpha23c2.php
23:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYQYdW )
23:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: to be fair, it was a flashlight with some basic state - was the kind that is to switch itself on when mains socket it is kept charging in fails
23:47 mircea_popescu this requires electronics ?
23:48 mircea_popescu does your rectifier also run java ?
23:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: someone decided to use a microcontroller. quite possibly because 29 cents instead of 30 for a '555'.
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23:48 asciilifeform somehow its eeprom (yes) got erased.
23:49 mircea_popescu see, shoulda got the ecc variant
23:52 mircea_popescu http://celiagreen.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/interns.html
23:52 assbot CELIA GREEN: Interns ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYRw3q )
23:52 mircea_popescu pretty great find, this
23:52 mircea_popescu Pain Control
23:52 mircea_popescu An area of research in which I could be making progress if I had funding providing an income of at least £100,000 a year (progress would no doubt be faster with more income).
23:53 * asciilifeform has been collecting folks like green for a long, long time
23:53 asciilifeform partly because, for a serious crackpot, to avoid going entirely off the rails, it is helpful to know what the rails look like.
23:54 mircea_popescu woman goes on to explain stuff about dentistry.
23:57 decimation asciilifeform: or to be more precise, what the wreck off the rail looks like
23:57 asciilifeform aha.
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