#trilema | 2015-05-03

it seems she literally intends to remembrance her youth ?

00:03

anyway, i do not personally believe this "pay me to think" thing has any merit whatsoever.

00:04

go do something useful, so your thoughts may be worth thinking in the first place.

00:04

it has same merit as 'i would like to fly to buenos aires on farts'

00:05

(who needs 'airbus' if can do this!)

00:05

the academia racket does create a superficial chumpatronic appearance that some folks are 'paid to think'

00:06

myah.

00:06

and certain folks who imagine that they could suck that teat while doing $theirthing instead of penning treatises re: checking privilege etc. - envy academics

00:07

similarly the entertainment racket creates the superficial chumpatronic appearance that some chicks "have it easy"

00:07

one needs a particular sort of ingrained uselessness outlook to come to that sort of worldview.

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00:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00027435 = 2.8258 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57716 @ 0.00027697 = 15.9856 BTC [+] {2}

00:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15280 @ 0.00027435 = 4.1921 BTC [-]

00:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67220 @ 0.00026881 = 18.0694 BTC [-]

00:39

scoopbot_revived

News! No Such lAbs (S.NSA), April 2015 Statement URL: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-april-2015-statement/

00:46

;;later tell bingoboingo your pino rooster didn't deliver the goods, i ended up betting on mayweather at the last moment :P

00:46

The operation succeeded.

00:47

"a total of 15,495 accounts were identified as having premium FetLife memberships and that Male doms make up far and away the largest proportion of FetLifes [paying] customer base, accounting for 3,452 (22.28%) of the total customer accounts identified."

00:47

leaving aside the torturous logic involved... srsly, 15k paid accounts ?

00:47

almost enough to buy a used car!

00:48

https://twitter.com/hashtag/themeatlist?src=hash << bonus.

00:48

Tweets about #themeatlist hashtag on Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1c8Flo5 )

00:52

what does a paid account get you ?

00:56

no idea

00:56

a ribbon or something. think reddit gold.

00:59

wtf would anybody pay for this

01:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 184034 @ 0.0002722 = 50.0941 BTC [+] {4}

01:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5666 @ 0.00028136 = 1.5942 BTC [+]

01:06

soooo... since i was looking at the fetlife stuff, i discovered the scrapper had stopped working

01:06

guess what it was ?

01:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39002 @ 0.00026881 = 10.4841 BTC [-]

01:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103248 @ 0.00026542 = 27.4041 BTC [-]

01:11

(hint : previous time it stopped working, they rejected based on agent string)

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01:48

mircea_popescu: ip ?

01:48

referrer.

01:48

l0l

01:49

srsly. this is the tech company. gurlz are all "oh poor them" and shit. it's like beating up the mentally retarded.

01:50

hunting zoo animals.

01:52

this is the result of this ill conceived "you can do anything" trend applied to business.

01:58

in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/aa075b09e01a54c45fd04bc72b13410b/tumblr_mxawg3UON21t1tru2o2_400.gif

01:58

... ( http://bit.ly/1DUg3Rs )

02:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100359 @ 0.00026986 = 27.0829 BTC [+] {2}

02:07

http://www.find-t.co/ << pretty handy t.co braindamage reverser.

02:07

Find the originating tweet

02:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94950 @ 0.00027331 = 25.9508 BTC [+]

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02:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106100 @ 0.00027354 = 29.0226 BTC [+]

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03:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51300 @ 0.00027224 = 13.9659 BTC [-]

03:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28506 @ 0.00028039 = 7.9928 BTC [+]

03:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94600 @ 0.00027993 = 26.4814 BTC [-] {2}

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03:43

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/34mrtk/wingdings_vs_pgp/

03:43

Wingdings vs PGP : DarkNetMarkets ... ( http://bit.ly/1DM36I6 )

03:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93200 @ 0.00027194 = 25.3448 BTC [-]

03:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57400 @ 0.00027194 = 15.6094 BTC [-]

04:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174400 @ 0.00026864 = 46.8508 BTC [-] {2}

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04:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141600 @ 0.00027363 = 38.746 BTC [+] {2}

04:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48298 @ 0.00027616 = 13.338 BTC [+]

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05:01

-----BEGIN DINGBAT PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

05:01

❉ ✈ ➢ ❽ ✑ ✑ ❖ ✊✋ ✌ ✍ ❦ ❧ ✈ ✈

05:01

✈ ➢ ❽ ✑ ✑ ❖ ✊ ✋✌ ❽ ✑ ✑ ❖ ✋✌

05:01

➀ ➂ ✙ ✚ ✱ ✲ ✨🐴🔫 ✈ ✈🏢🏢❾ ❶ ❶

05:01

-----END DINGBAT PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

05:01

that's awesome cazalla

05:02

I'm using emoji encryption from now on

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05:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104003 @ 0.0002731 = 28.4032 BTC [-]

05:23

punkman

plaintext codes have their place

05:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105547 @ 0.0002731 = 28.8249 BTC [-]

05:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60100 @ 0.00027753 = 16.6796 BTC [+]

05:34

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-05-2015#1118747 <<< interesting

05:34

Logged on 03-05-2015 02:11:26; decimation: yes, indeed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tXobY4ZWbc < a video of the 787 landing with the ram air turbine (pop out windmill) deployed

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72603 @ 0.00028275 = 20.5285 BTC [+]

05:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42401 @ 0.00027057 = 11.4724 BTC [-]

06:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 207650 @ 0.00027057 = 56.1839 BTC [-]

06:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163039 @ 0.00027057 = 44.1135 BTC [-]

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06:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104500 @ 0.00028003 = 29.2631 BTC [+] {3}

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07:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00027739 = 4.7434 BTC [-]

07:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37850 @ 0.00027739 = 10.4992 BTC [-]

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08:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163381 @ 0.00026802 = 43.7894 BTC [-] {4}

08:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75000 @ 0.0002662 = 19.965 BTC [-]

08:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53219 @ 0.00025921 = 13.7949 BTC [-] {2}

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09:21

davout: these were sop even in the days of airships: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/ZeppelinLZ127b.jpg << graf zeppelin. notice the windmill in middle-right of photo. powered radio room.

09:21

... ( http://bit.ly/1EJoX6S )

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09:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139700 @ 0.00027545 = 38.4804 BTC [+] {2}

09:54

;;later tell mircea_popescu you gotta restart it for the changes to take. you can also make a spare copy of it to run locally, it is simple enough.

09:54

The operation succeeded.

09:58

asciilifeform: makes sense, wind and gravity are probably the two forces you can rely upon when airborne

10:00

re: old thread with mats: the heads really do fly off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-5svC6okQ

10:00

Re: Sri Lankan Homicide/Suicide Bomber Attack terrorist - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FIpEiU )

10:02

(see 2' 27" mark )

10:04

davout: what i find odd is that the modern machines have retractable windmills. retraction gear could fail.

10:04

a fixed pod would make more sense as emergency generator

10:04

(yes, would add something to fuel cost. cry a river.)

↖

10:05

asciilifeform: not with gravity, that's how the retractable gear works in case of failure, pull a lever, it falls with gravity

10:06

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsYZJ5uRFE

10:06

Airbus A320 Gravity Gear Handle - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1bRs7LQ )

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10:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176805 @ 0.00027857 = 49.2526 BTC [+] {2}

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11:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145300 @ 0.00025728 = 37.3828 BTC [-] {2}

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11:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60600 @ 0.00025549 = 15.4827 BTC [-]

11:50

Historia meretrix vitae est.

11:51

or "lupa is more fitting?

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20916 @ 0.00027631 = 5.7793 BTC [+] {2}

12:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00027436 = 11.7152 BTC [-]

12:35

asciilifeform yeah i figured you would, but i didn't wanna fuck with it.

12:38

and speaking of fucking with it, http://31.media.tumblr.com/90fce7a8d6f8ddbb1afd46580c17728a/tumblr_n0ybfl8ZEC1svwz07o1_500.gif

12:38

... ( http://bit.ly/1DWiTp4 )

12:42

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-05-2015#1118983 << a) trivial to make the retractor always fail out ; b) it'd add all sorts of costs, most of them subjective.

12:42

Logged on 03-05-2015 14:04:57; asciilifeform: (yes, would add something to fuel cost. cry a river.)

12:53

and re http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-04-2015#1117066 : teh trilema readership reminds me, alcibiades alcmaeonidos

12:53

Logged on 30-04-2015 21:45:55; mircea_popescu: ascii_field there was this mildly famous gay boy of athens whose name escapes me at the moment, literally got a whole trireme detachment on unbacked promises of great pay (from persia iirc ?) and well... there they sat.

12:59

[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 122 @ 0.0168 = 2.0496 BTC [-] {2}

13:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120307 @ 0.00025541 = 30.7276 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12143 @ 0.00025469 = 3.0927 BTC [-]

13:05

"Specializing in the sort of ultimate tough-guy/manly man roles that hearken back to a different era in film, Sizemore continues to be a favourite of Hollywood's greatest directors."

13:05

ahaha. children of a different era, i salute you.

13:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141108 @ 0.00026844 = 37.879 BTC [+]

13:18

cazalla: check the qntra stmt

13:21

jurov sig passes here ?

13:21

lol despite being 6 rows no one reads it

13:21

danielpbarron is spelt wrong and the number is misplaced

13:22

tunnel vision lol. i checked the sig and the sum.

13:22

4BD D16E 8EAF 4493 CB9C B36A E984 9D96 1AC9 << heh.

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13:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144200 @ 0.0002672 = 38.5302 BTC [-] {2}

13:54

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 120000 @ 0.0000985 = 11.82 BTC [-] {2}

13:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41492 @ 0.00026844 = 11.1381 BTC [+]

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14:18

ben_vulpes

;;ticker

14:18

Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 241.67, Best ask: 241.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 241.67, 24 hour volume: 18254.72487711, 24 hour low: 233.75, 24 hour high: 243.73, 24 hour vwap: None

14:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00027231 = 8.1421 BTC [+]

14:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45691 @ 0.00027263 = 12.4567 BTC [+] {2}

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14:48

scoopbot_revived

News! The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume IX URL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-ix/

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15:03

ben_vulpes

^^ missing a footnote

15:12

http://oglaf.com/evensong/

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00027231 = 7.4885 BTC [-]

15:21

oglafbot

15:21

Evensong ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pg85aJ )

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15:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70104 @ 0.00027337 = 19.1643 BTC [+]

15:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71500 @ 0.00027918 = 19.9614 BTC [+] {2}

15:53

!up yhwh_

15:54

assbot remembered me, nice

15:56

jurov: why wouldn't it?

15:56

[19:37] --> assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) logged in

15:59

it deathed

16:00

and then undeathed lol

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66408 @ 0.00027596 = 18.326 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00027596 = 8.2512 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127504 @ 0.00027596 = 35.186 BTC [-]

16:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149312 @ 0.00027885 = 41.6357 BTC [+] {4}

16:28

ben_vulpes aty

16:30

jurov, thansk, i always check but for some reason missed that :\

16:36

ברוך אתה yhwh_ שלא עשני אשה

16:40

He will smite you, you sexist

16:41

these cheaper chinese chainsaws on ebay versus a stihl or husqi, anyone know if price diff is worth it?

16:42

from what i've read, the stihl and husqis are made in china now too, and this is for only around the backyard use

16:42

stihl, i'd rather not take a cheap chainsaw to the knee

16:43

chainsaw is the last thing i'd economize on

16:45

cazalla i never bought one but i'm with jurov

16:45

!up deedbot-

16:45

if that chain snaps...

16:45

deedbot- http://dpaste.com/2FZADTG.txt

16:45

... ( http://bit.ly/1GIZvfW )

16:45

accepted: 1

16:45

cazalla: up's no longer necessary

16:45

jurov: pls lrn your prayers, http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-has-not-made-me-a-woman/

16:45

Who Has Not Made Me a Woman - My Jewish Learning ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIZxEy )

16:45

!down deedbot-

16:45

cazalla: impossibru!

16:45

"Few Jewish religious texts have provoked as much indignation and discomfort as the brief passage that is recited by traditional Jewish men at the beginning of the daily morning prayers: “Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler of the universe who has not created me a woman.” For many, it expresses a quintessential misogyny that lies at the core of our patriarchal religion."

16:46

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Adlai can't make this shit up

16:47

i dunno Adlai, i'm thankful not to be a woman but i don't give daily thanks to it

16:48

;;gettrust yhwh cazalla

16:48

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user yhwh to user cazalla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=yhwh&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014

16:48

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Adlai shrugs

16:48

;;gettrust yhwh jesus

16:48

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user yhwh to user jesus: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=yhwh&dest=jesus | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jesus | Rated since: never

16:48

nope.

16:49

shit

16:50

/nick jesus > * jesus :Erroneous Nickname

16:50

what teh bs.

16:50

if jesus was a jew

16:50

why did he have a mexican name

16:51

almost as good.

16:54

what are the standards for mirroring pages in qntra articles? is archive.org goodenuff?

16:56

no. archive.today

16:56

archive.org is a pos.

16:56

Adlai, i've been using archive.today

16:56

Adlai also, a copy on your own blog is a golden standard.

16:57

blog fragmentation seems an excellent way to cause eventual linkrot

17:00

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Adlai watches archive.today's squirming from being fed a facebook link, and is slightly aroused

17:00

Adlai the idea being that if you cache a link on the very place where the link is referenced, you can't have link rot because if the place is up it's up and if it's down there's no link anyway

17:01

qntra is my own blog now?

17:01

*

Adlai is honored and begins typing up "The Idiot's Guide to Blockchain Technology"

17:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68551 @ 0.0002805 = 19.2286 BTC [+]

17:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.0002805 = 13.3238 BTC [+]

17:30

kakobrekla

jurov> assbot remembered me, nice < i think it checks wot status every time

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18:22

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/stats << here you go, phixed

18:22

So far: | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1DX3RiW )

18:22

The operation succeeded.

18:23

o hey, nice.

18:23

enjoy, l0l

18:23

can it has ` thousands separator ? :D

18:24

go ahead, add it in. i forget how.

18:24

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asciilifeform does not do much wwwtronics

18:24

i have nfi, last i wrote python most social justice warriors were prepubescent

18:30

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asciilifeform idly wonders what a 'phuctor' for ecdsa/btc would look like

18:31

or wait, this was already done long ago.

18:31

get al txn (in the unpruned tree), group by address, see which actuyally exposed the ke

↖ ↖

18:31

yup

18:31

it looked like a buncha derps coin vanishing into black hole.

18:32

actually iirc the first iteration at least, derps were warned.

18:32

warned how? warning shot with nanocoin tx'ed out ?

18:33

i don't recall, was a big deal thread cca 2012

18:33

eventually they tracked down the offender source

18:34

something that ran on pNohes, i recall.

18:34

was reusing 'k'

18:34

something like that.

18:36

anwyay, when's the processing start!!11

18:37

if you wanna do the sausage slicing, feel free to start. otherwise it'll have to wait a little.

18:37

o.O

18:37

(uploaded sausage last night)

18:37

what's it waiting for ? to no longer have a great server at its sole disposal ?

18:37

l0l

18:38

it really doesn't need the whole box to itself!

18:38

can house 1,001 other things there

18:38

cmon, today's the day, yest was the day, day b4 yest was the day, and so on for a whole week.

18:38

(by now mircea_popescu probably read the src and knows, approximately, how it works)

18:38

5gb of keys will take a lot of processing. everything else can wait so THIS is started

18:38

because it takes 4ever.

18:39

for the record, www was comparably irrelevant. as long as the processing was started, where exact;y the www responds... whocares.

18:39

comparatively*

18:40

www end is how we read the output

18:40

or am i missing something

18:40

just max that box already.

18:40

lol

18:41

i keep thinking gpg has the key slicer functionality built in somewhere

18:41

and i'm a lamer, and don't know about it

18:41

you keep thinking that if you proctastinate the parts that suck they'll get done by themselves.

18:41

anyone knows the secret ?

18:49

scoopbot_revived

News! BitBet (S.BBET) April 2015 Statement URL: http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-april-2015-statement/

18:53

https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current << l0l, apparently there is a real-time one.

18:53

Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8vKLa )

18:53

no deep secret.

18:54

#Digest-algo: md5 and unsigned

18:54

WHAT IS WRON G WITH THESE PEOPLE

18:55

/usr/local/bin/sks_build.sh << it has a script btw, to allow you to autoload in a db

18:56

you can prolly steal the code from there.

18:56

" I started doing a full build, it looked like it was going to take forever so I aborted it and switched to a quickbuild. On the 4-processor machine I was using it still took in the order of 40 minutes to run so this might take a while."

18:56

heh.

18:56

http://code.google.com/r/google-sks-keyserver-hl1/source/browse/sks_build.sh?name=1.1.1&r=7f1cc4b1637ef119ba1f81afee0496c232bc2e10 << no such luck

18:56

sks_build.sh - google-sks-keyserver-hl1 - Works for me - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1GSCDgJ )

18:57

gpgsplit (standard util) will cut'em but you end up with -all- packets sawed apart (signatures, email addrs, etc. floating around as separate flotsam and no longer agglomerated into pubkeys as customary)

18:58

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asciilifeform is floored by the sheer retardation of the sks thing

18:59

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110110/list-all-gpg-pgp-keys-of-a-local-sks-key-server << other folks also pissed

18:59

List all GPG/PGP keys of a local SKS key server - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1GSCWb8 )

19:00

sks build /var/lib/sks/dump/*.pgp -n 10 -cache 100 <<

19:01

this sucks -in-, no ?

19:01

yes, builds a db out of the pgp pile.

19:01

and then what

19:01

that can then presumably be iterated, being a db. right ?

19:02

the docs suggest otherwise (mega-l0l, yes)

19:02

how is this a db then.

19:02

how a turd is sausage.

19:03

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asciilifeform reading docs, because this is unbelievable

19:04

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-05-2015#1119095 << eh?

19:04

Logged on 03-05-2015 22:31:27; mircea_popescu: get al txn (in the unpruned tree), group by address, see which actuyally exposed the ke

19:04

eh is not a supported query.

19:04

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-05-2015#1119095 << wot?

19:04

Logged on 03-05-2015 22:31:27; mircea_popescu: get al txn (in the unpruned tree), group by address, see which actuyally exposed the ke

19:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62450 @ 0.00027231 = 17.0058 BTC [-]

19:05

http://www.nilsschneider.net/2013/01/28/recovering-bitcoin-private-keys.html

19:05

Recovering Bitcoin private keys using weak signatures from the blockchain / Nils Schneider ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8wK24 )

19:06

also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=143551

19:06

Login ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8wPCG )

19:06

assbot pls

19:07

^ not readable

19:07

censored?

19:07

tl;dr: 'johoe' who took >250 coins from blockchain.info users by looking for predictable r-values

19:07

asciilifeform no listen, so you construct the db, then have gpg spit out the list of fingerprints, then query it over that list. produces pubkyes.

19:08

then made a great public show of returning them to blockchain.info's creditors

19:08

now THAT is a hoodrobbin

19:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41450 @ 0.00026813 = 11.114 BTC [-] {2}

19:09

mircea_popescu: didja say at one point you had a keyserver going ?

19:09

no ? i said one's being made. by mats

19:09

aha

19:09

http://trilema.com/mats-pgp-keyserver

19:09

[mats] PGP keyserver on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8x3tu )

19:09

because, it seems that in the course of this opera, we are setting up one sks key server

19:10

could let it run, even

19:10

i'm shocked!

19:10

l0l

19:10

you mean to tell me if we intend to use any FOSS thing the way that'll happen is if we write it first ?

19:10

turns out.

19:10

spittoon theorem.

19:11

incredible. and the 50 years' worth of very useful dweebs pulling on their collective half inch worth of foreskin did what exactly ?

19:11

other than fucking everything up.

19:11

*

mircea_popescu has never despised old people this much ever before. and he's famous for despising old people.

19:11

if i ever were to learn what - i promise to say

19:12

'if i did not see as far as others, it is because midgets stood on my shoulders' (tm)

19:13

more like, we're stuck either stepping in dogshit or standing on the shoulders of monkeys.

19:13

grandiose shitchoice, what.

19:13

*

Adlai views mircea_popescu as an 'old people' fwiw

19:13

this is the beauty of relativity

19:14

Adlai: who is old? fella with grey in his beard? or someone who can do arithmetic with a pen? or, or ?

19:14

i'm not a computer engineer yo. i can be an old philosopher, old businessman, old financial genius, your pick.

19:15

asciilifeform: fella old enough to father WoT nodes

19:15

old = privileged ?

19:16

*

asciilifeform often experiences mindfuck in u.s. (and argentinian!) 'antique' shops on account of recognizing various objects (razors, furniture, bakelite phones, kitchen junk, etc.) from his childhood (which took place in a technologically and crapflationarily-behind by three or four decades part of the globe)

19:16

aha, better definition: old people are less likely to appreciate tatran

19:16

in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/1ea44b17eb4bd24fad08a6d8be2a7933/tumblr_mpwxdoKMIA1rwmba9o1_500.gif >> check the chick out. she's all indignant but doesn't move a muscle to stop it.

19:16

... ( http://bit.ly/1GSEz8X )

19:16

scam

19:16

FC Tatran Preov ?

19:17

*

Adlai is listening to: Tatran - The Utilitarian (2:28)

19:19

*

Adlai walked thru an openair market specializing in antiques last week, it was a bizarre display of sorted and assorted yet totally useless crap

19:20

Adlai not bad i guess. background stuff, not actual music.

19:21

https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.619592,-58.372561,3a,90y,343.38h,88.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sQcHu0kFpMZuYQ1vQpk7Jag!2e0!6m1!1e1 << that one

19:21

Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8xW5n )

19:21

mercado san telmo ?

19:21

it.

19:22

mircea_popescu: anything seems dead via youtube, or its moral equiv. let's talk after they tour b-as

19:23

sadly they are scam by zionism, and just tour back and forth the same 350km

19:24

https://vimeo.com/104435652

19:24

TATRAN - Anar @ Oppikoppi Festival on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1GSFoOR )

19:24

(rare exception to the above)

19:24

but it's land of the scam. on the topic of which, is there some dibs mechanism for qntrarticles?

19:25

*

Adlai has started research on a potential article, and would like to confirm that effort isn't wasted, or at the very least ,collaborate

19:37

Adlai dibs ? how you mean ?

~ 15 minutes ~

19:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97600 @ 0.00028233 = 27.5554 BTC [+] {2}

19:52

Sorry if this is old, but did you guys see that? https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/commit/5f46da29fd02fd2a8a787286fd6a56f680073770

19:52

Hard fork: allow 20MB blocks after 1 March 2016 · gavinandresen/bitcoin-git@5f46da2 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GSIYc2 )

19:53

guy can do whatever he wants on his personal fork of bitcoin.

19:53

true

19:56

anyway, lots of maxsigop gnarl in there, not really worth the mention.

19:57

slightly more relevant to bitcoin, http://33.media.tumblr.com/941c9b1776b9109fa66cc4fa6d3b3fcb/tumblr_n20wnbaE3x1rnrgxyo3_500.gif

19:57

... ( http://bit.ly/1dGtBcQ )

19:57

Blockchain for the people! :]

19:58

Blockchain next year: http://www.childwellness.eu/Afbeeldingen_basis/quiz_08_a.JPG

19:58

... ( http://bit.ly/1dGtKx0 )

19:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90951 @ 0.0002684 = 24.4112 BTC [-]

19:59

but since we're doing power ranger lulz, http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/05/03#l1430621769

19:59

BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1dGtRZp )

20:07

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/05/03/youll-never-guess-who-is-investing-in-bitcoin.aspx

20:07

You'll Never Guess Who's Investing in Bitcoin (GS) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dGuQZA )

20:07

circle just diluted early investors even more.

20:08

mats

do they even generate revenue?

20:09

in the above form.

~ 37 minutes ~

20:46

asciilifeform: is there a gpg keyserver that just holds pubkeys, dumps on request?

20:49

or meet's mircea_popescu's spec?

~ 17 minutes ~

21:06

!up tailsnuckles

21:06

neighbour got food delivered, entire hallway smells like wet dogs now.

21:06

Hello

21:07

two days ago, i got them up because it smelled like a gas leak. turns out... they had takeout.

21:07

wtf do these people eat.

21:07

decimation not so far as could be yet found.

21:07

tailsnuckles who're you ?

21:10

Franklin

21:10

I can see a definite use case for people who just want a simple keyserver for themselves, but don't want to join the worldwide gpg mob

21:10

I suspect the gpg mafia has a political stand on that point

21:10

wait it's a mafia ?

21:11

heh, nerd mafia

21:11

i don't get it tho. how ? why ?

21:16

!deed http://dpaste.com/0AGDMHE

21:16

dpaste: 0AGDMHE ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGzj8I )

21:17

!up deedbot-

21:17

!deed http://dpaste.com/0AGDMHE

21:17

dpaste: 0AGDMHE ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGznFy )

21:18

deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0AGDMHE

21:18

dpaste: 0AGDMHE ... ( http://bit.ly/1DXwDQc )

21:18

Bad URL or network outage.

21:18

hanbot: needs the text only url

21:19

just .txt at the end

21:19

also PSA, deedbot- voices himself now

21:19

deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0AGDMHE.txt

21:19

... ( http://bit.ly/1DXwMn1 )

21:19

rejected: 1

21:19

hanbot: does it have the key that signed that yet?

21:19

keys are added the same way

21:20

i registered last month iirc

21:20

the particular key signing that doc needs to be added to deedbot by a WoT member

21:22

http://deedbot.org/deed-2015-04-02-19-51-51.txt << trhis made it in somehow

21:22

... ( http://bit.ly/1DXxoJb )

21:22

mircea_popescu: my understanding is that the sks servers aggressively share keys

21:22

http://www.nber.org/papers/w20171 << tl;dr "internet advertising doesn't do anything"

21:23

Consumer Heterogeneity and Paid Search Effectiveness: A Large Scale Field Experiment ... ( http://bit.ly/1DXxyAp )

21:23

decimation well yes

21:23

lol news to nobody I hope

21:23

decimation right. except "tech" is currently predicated on "google makes money".

21:23

mircea_popescu: gpg barfs if I try verifying that by hand

21:23

how, pray tell ? and what exactly is the only hope of revenue for fb, twitter and the whole rest of em ?

21:24

<decimation> asciilifeform: is there a gpg keyserver that just holds pubkeys, dumps on request? << the sks servs dump, but in this mega-blob format where you get ~25MB of continuous gpg binary packet

21:24

mircea_popescu: hanbot: teh barf http://dpaste.com/32XP8H9.txt

21:24

... ( http://bit.ly/1zGA2GU )

21:25

<mircea_popescu> wtf do these people eat. << kimchi?

21:25

*

asciilifeform lolz at mircea_popescu having moved into a flat, just as asciilifeform moved out of one

21:25

asciilifeform i like flats.

21:25

why

21:25

thanks trinque. i'm prolly stupiding somewhere, lookin'.

21:26

let me guess - can get 20 of them, and move around ?

21:26

im a town guy , what can i tell you.

21:26

could be you, could be me; we'll find out eh?

21:26

hanbot: ^

21:26

not that many houses one block away from the topological city centre

21:26

aha yeah.

21:26

meanwhile the old one verifies by hand

21:26

though, i did see some warehousy run-down boxes begging for habitation

21:27

you could probably smelt aluminum in there and nobody'd notice.

21:27

hanbot "Bets resolved from earlier placing periods: 1123, 1108, 1119, 803 " wtf is shit doing past the sig

21:27

doesn't verify with that bit removed either

21:28

decimation meanwhile in lalaland, http://www.iab.net/media/file/IAB_Internet_Advertising_Revenue_FY_2014.pdf "Internet advertising revenues (revenues) in the United States totaled $49.5 billion for the full year of 2014, with

21:28

... ( http://bit.ly/1zGAjK5 )

21:28

Q4 2014 accounting for approximately $14.2 billion and Q3 2014 accounting for approximately $12.2 billion.

21:28

Revenues for the full year of 2014 increased 16% over 2013.

21:28

"

21:29

yeh i've crufted it up. to be continued.

21:31

anyway, more on point : i'm cooking up the advertising plan for eulora since it's about to come out. i intend to run it basically on a charitable basis, run ads on linux-dedicated stuffs that seem reasonable. if any of you got a place that fits feel free to send me a note.

21:34

deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0QNFJVT.txt

21:34

... ( http://bit.ly/1zGATYk )

21:34

accepted: 1

21:35

there we go. thanks all!

21:35

Hello

21:36

Whats up

21:36

in other news, google is a piece of shit.

21:37

Mircea_popescu i am aka meowmix

21:37

for instance : i wrote about a talented romanian dude, two years ago. https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=silviu+gherman+firmele+lui&complete=0 << his site ? #4. my post ? #5. 1-3 ? facebook.

21:37

silviu gherman firmele lui - Buscar con Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGB5XC )

21:37

because why ? because fuckall, "algorithm" consists of (set facebook, wikipedia, ebay on top).

21:37

<felipelalli> Sorry if this is old, but did you guys see that? https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/commit/5f46da29fd02fd2a8a787286fd6a56f680073770 << axe-time, sword-time, wind-time, wolf-time...

21:37

Hard fork: allow 20MB blocks after 1 March 2016 · gavinandresen/bitcoin-git@5f46da2 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGB99z )

21:37

https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=webmaster+forum&complete=0 << check that one out.

21:37

webmaster forum - Buscar con Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGBaKS )

21:38

FIVE forums with exactly 0 relevancy of any kind, spammed into index.

21:38

it doesn't work.

21:38

if they pick results by hand they get results picked by hand. if they try to "algorithm" they get OWNED by the seo spammers.

21:39

probably tuned by traffic numbers slurped from google analytics too

21:39

l0l herr meowmix with a cloak at last

21:39

which more or less seems like google == reddit at that point

21:39

can we get him in wot ?

21:39

what should be the first result in this case in your opinion?

21:40

felipelalli in any case no dubious forum with 5k posts eh ?

21:40

whatever they're called, point-something or the other.

21:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKfpfsRsT-4 << this being the dude.

21:41

Manuscrisul meu - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zGBwRv )

21:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00028367 = 9.2193 BTC [+] {2}

21:42

mircea_popescu artgorithm imitates life, go out and search for a "pizza", how many hits til you get something edible?

21:42

but how many of them are cat litter ?

21:43

if "cat litter" = that which a cat would piss on before eating, most?

21:43

lol

21:43

I GOT NOTHING

~ 18 minutes ~

22:01

lol $49 bil for internet ads

22:02

inb4 "it could buy ISIS!111"

22:02

how is the ad industry not a giant leech on the productive, like lawyers?

22:02

who's productive yo ?

22:03

everyone else just contributes to costs! the ad industry contributes to revenue!!11

22:03

heh

22:03

It would be interesting to see an index which divides the us gdp by the aggregate spending on lawyers, marketing, and accountancy

22:04

or rather than gdp, total corporate revenue

~ 15 minutes ~

22:19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5MSqrK5Tbo << unrelated

22:19

一式陸攻清掃 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DNF6UU )

22:19

^ but reminiscent of our 'open source' archaeological misadventures.

22:20

is that vietnam ?

22:20

asciilifeform: highly likely to be scavanged and sold to the collector's market for parts

22:21

if comments are to be believed, is on some godforsakenisland

22:21

although I suspect the japanese version of the market is different than the us one...

22:21

ballale island, supposedly.

22:22

apparently the us collectors go adventuring in various backward islands in oceania where planes were crashed/buried/etc

22:23

http://www.solomontimes.com/news/removal-of-wwii-relics-in-solomons/967

22:23

Removal of WWII Relics in Solomons - Solomon Times Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1DNFzq7 )

22:23

it's big business to sell the parts to folks who want to 'restore' old aircraft

22:24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKbV4sSPHvc << claims it was -all- sold for 50kusd.

22:24

Solomon Island Relics - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DNFH93 )

22:24

*

asciilifeform wonders if it was paid in bejies or coke

22:24

*benjies

22:25

heh yeah that sounds cheap

22:25

I would like to see a collection of working german and russian aircraft

22:26

the only decent display I've seen is the smithsonian at dulles

22:26

afaik most of what is flying, from that period, is 'cheating' with modern parts

22:27

yeah I recently visited a workshop where they rebuild wwii aircraft

22:27

they admitted that they are around 40% 'original'

22:27

most of the parts are replicas hand-built to fit

22:31

according to the wiki only two full Stukas exist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87

22:31

Junkers Ju 87 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1I6BKT3 )

~ 15 minutes ~

22:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35272 @ 0.00027623 = 9.7432 BTC [-] {2}

~ 17 minutes ~

23:05

mircea_popescu: https://youtu.be/B1TI7aqgfyk?t=2m2s << putin promised ar oil&gas exploration of 'largest deposit in south america', war machines incl. fighter jets, and - in the segment linked, to jurov's certain delight - a sp. lang. version of 'rt'.

23:05

01.05.2015 Лучшая РЕЧЬ и ВЫСТУПЛЕНИЕ путина в Аргентине! ВСЕМ СМОТРЕТЬ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qdv48t )

23:05

mircea_popescu: did it happen ?

23:08

4" 30' commented re: falklandswank

23:11

I don't get why argentinians give a fuck about falklands

23:11

same as jp re: kuril islands.

23:11

national wankatron

23:12

yeah, it's always good democratic politics to get people to hate 'the other'

23:13

re: rt: https://youtu.be/Q8o9KBGAp70?t=30s << apparently it happened.

23:13

ПУТИН и Кристина Киршнер запускают вещание КАНАЛА на испанском в Аргентине - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qdw38G )

23:13

actually the uk would probably be pissed if russia exports the latest tech there

23:13

a few wks ago.

23:14

those drums in the background

23:15

very familiar.

23:15

*

asciilifeform heard much the same rhythm near $hotel, professional 'protest' derps dropped by bus and marched around to it

23:16

in ar? or dc?

23:16

ar

23:17

add professional 'protestors' as another side-effect of social democracy

23:17

*

asciilifeform wishes the ar folks luck in sinking that annoying naturally-occurring aircraft carrier currently infested with nato

23:18

hey, the us was official neutral in the uk-ar war

23:18

brits tried to invoke nato, i am still unclear on why this did not work

23:18

technically met the conditions

23:19

yes, this led to amusing stunts on behalf the brits, since they barely had an air force/navy/army on their own

23:20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck < "The attacking Vulcan was refuelled seven times on the outward journey and once on the return journey. "

23:20

Operation Black Buck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1I6JyUZ )

23:24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfker6cK3SM << historic lulz

23:24

Riots in Buenos Aires after Argentina lost the Falklands War - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qdxl3I )

23:27

asciilifeform: in the context of the time, the us was probably worried about strengthening the cause of pro-soviet 'rebels' in south america

23:30

according to the conservative heritage foundation, obama's people can't help themselves by stirring up shit in argentina http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/03/the-united-states-should-recognize-british-sovereignty-over-the-falkland-islands

23:30

Falkland Islands: U.S. Should Recognize British Sovereignty ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qdy0lH )

23:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00027146 = 11.6728 BTC [-] {2}

23:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26850 @ 0.00028416 = 7.6297 BTC [+] {3}

23:49

asciilifeform that "largest deposit" thing, ie vaca muerta, is as best i can determine a massive government-sponsored scam.

23:49

"we're gonna pretend like we got oil because it's the next best thing to actually going to work"

23:53