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00:00 danielpbarron "We bring uniqueness to files that aren't unique." << LOL
00:00 danielpbarron the holy grail of all social media
00:13 trinque ok, that's registered; nobody was responding in #freenode about a mask, so I'll try again later
00:14 trinque doesn't really bother me to not have a mask, as the firewall on the thing doesn't have open ports
00:14 trinque kakobrekla: please autovoice the deedbot- if you wouldn't mind
00:14 trinque !up deedbot-
00:15 trinque deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/334J37V.txt
00:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N4fzwk )
00:15 deedbot- imported: FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4
00:15 trinque k, back online
00:15 * trinque goes afk for a bit
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12471 @ 0.00027531 = 3.4334 BTC [+]
00:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00027148 = 4.8731 BTC [-]
00:32 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
00:33 Vexual thanks dpb, now even I undertand deedbot
00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51189 @ 0.0002676 = 13.6982 BTC [-] {5}
00:47 brendafdez https://hacked.com/no-browser-secure-major-browsers-hacked-2015-pwn2own-contest/
00:47 assbot No Browser is Secure: All Major Browsers Hacked at 2015 Pwn2Own Contest | Hacked ... ( http://bit.ly/1EHYWEF )
00:48 brendafdez "No browser exploits were successfully demonstrated on Linux or other open-source operating systemsÇ"
00:48 mircea_popescu !gettrust assbot deedbot-
00:48 assbot deedbot- is not registered in WoT.
00:48 mircea_popescu trinque if you register it in wot, you can just voice it whenever you need manually
00:48 mircea_popescu if it mostly stays on that should be ~never
00:49 mircea_popescu brendafdez somehow the title is "no browser is secure" instead of "use linux. now. everything else is shit"
00:52 brendafdez the press is just as shitty
00:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8660 @ 0.00027082 = 2.3453 BTC [+]
01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00028284 = 2.6163 BTC [+]
01:07 danielpbarron http://www.gofundme.com/kandosiijetii << some anon scamming the lgbt community?
01:07 assbot Please help me survive my family by Kandosii Jetii - GoFundMe ... ( http://bit.ly/1EI1nXH )
01:08 danielpbarron My family is unaware that I don't share their religious views, unaware that I am bisexual and that I have friends of all ethnicities, religious views, genders and sexual orientations. If they knew any of this, my life would be at risk.
01:13 brendafdez think of the children
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00026451 = 1.1771 BTC [-] {2}
01:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00026246 = 2.4671 BTC [-]
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44000 @ 0.00026246 = 11.5482 BTC [-]
01:48 trinque danielpbarron: so much lol
01:48 trinque weakness has become a social competition of its own
01:49 mircea_popescu if it's a scam it's notbad.jpg
01:49 mircea_popescu exactly the sort of thing.
01:50 mircea_popescu trinque well obviously. once the "to whoever according to his needs" becomes the payoff, needs become competitive.
01:50 mircea_popescu just talk to some supposedly ignorant, unintelligent and unskilled ghetto dwellers on the topic of "getting prescriptions", see knowledge, cleverness and skill unmatched.
01:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00026231 = 2.4657 BTC [-] {2}
01:55 mircea_popescu but anyway, teh 100% anal child. "circumstances" forced it to not pay rent, and evil people forced him to make stories for attention about making stories for attention.
01:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18859 @ 0.00026471 = 4.9922 BTC [+]
01:58 mircea_popescu lol managed to fail freshman year @ social studies.
01:58 mircea_popescu ahaha great,
02:08 ben_vulpes <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants...
02:15 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
02:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7493 @ 0.00026162 = 1.9603 BTC [-]
02:28 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-decreases-for-third-time-this-year/
02:28 cazalla thestringpuller, https://twitter.com/LouisonDumont/status/579872885524705280
02:28 assbot I created Bitproof because my mother thinks GPG is a supermarket. RT /qntra: Boost VC Embraces Child Founded Start Up http://t.co/FAWTczzi0o
02:30 mircea_popescu omfg... at first i thought it's someone mocking the guy.
02:30 mircea_popescu then it turns out... self-parody.
02:30 mircea_popescu event lulzizon!
02:31 ben_vulpes complete with "my mom" jokes...
02:32 mircea_popescu at least it's not, you know, "urmom"
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03:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00025242 = 3.7358 BTC [-]
03:10 thestringpuller cazalla: LOLOLOLOL
03:10 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-anal-child/
03:17 brendafdez There's no point reeducating it, because anyway...
03:19 BingoBoingo related http://www.gomerblog.com/2015/03/recto-retriever-approved/
03:19 assbot Recto-Retriever Approved for Personal Use | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1GJFS9f )
03:19 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
03:19 Vexual oh hai
03:19 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmduDP-JNLQ
03:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17820 @ 0.00025242 = 4.4981 BTC [-]
03:25 Vexual you can describe all kinda nal sex, but unless you really mean it, it dont mean shit\
03:28 mircea_popescu brendafdez lol sec.
03:31 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk
03:32 mircea_popescu brendafdez care to expound ?
03:34 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAQ9xQQHeQ
03:39 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKpd2Bua3Ug
03:44 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGgm3GB75c0
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8777 @ 0.00025305 = 2.221 BTC [+]
03:46 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouanlAQ-QXg
03:48 brendafdez mircea_popescu expound? I could go on, but anyway... https://youtu.be/NuPolrd9yuo?t=1m35s
03:48 assbot IT Crowd Jen Interview - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpMHlv )
03:48 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMXhNoyEtg previous was a a fuckup
03:49 trinque +mircea_popescu | trinque well obviously. once the "to whoever according to his needs" becomes the payoff, needs become competitive. << holy fuck, does this social phenomenon fill me with bile
03:49 mircea_popescu why /
03:49 trinque people like to talk about how ignorant and backwards texas is
03:49 mircea_popescu (but i am writing something for your, and others', bile)
03:49 trinque (where I grew up)
03:49 trinque it does not have this
03:51 trinque only state where secession is still pleasant conversation
03:51 trinque fuck I miss it.
03:51 trinque < is drunk
03:51 trinque !up Vexual
03:53 trinque mircea_popescu: why? because it feels like admitting suicide is the only option, but being too cowardly to pull the trigger.
03:53 trinque god damn it I was born to live.
03:53 mircea_popescu nonsense.
03:54 trinque nothing would fill me with greater joy than seeing a place like texas thrive while the rest of the insane federal system rots
03:55 trinque let them pay for the padded walls to protect the fractured psyches of socialist paradise
03:55 trinque ben_vulpes: I might move back
03:55 trinque can't fucking stand the pacific nw
03:55 trinque all my money's coming from tejas; there's a reason for that
03:56 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vEntK3fwp8
03:57 trinque the thing people don't understand when they look at people like ted cruz.. the goddamn texas legislature meets every two years
03:57 trinque the whole govt's set up to get as little done as possible
03:57 trinque as it fucking should be
03:58 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/game-theoretic-game-theory/ << there you go t man.
03:58 assbot Game theoretic game theory pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpOs2g )
04:00 Vexual game is life
04:01 brendafdez mircea_popescu I never mentioned it bc I felt very flattered that you added the password input field in the "Paid Content" notice at my request, but seems weird to me that after inputting password it takes you to the homepage. Expected behavior to me would be reloading the page, to see the article one intended to read in the first place. Otherwise one valuable credit goes to waste by loading an unwanted article ;)
04:02 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XklVahMDm1A
04:02 mircea_popescu ha! not a bad idea.
04:02 trinque mircea_popescu: this is the thing; I will never accept death
04:03 trinque "how is this possible!"
04:03 trinque fuck this
04:03 trinque it's as mine as it is some other fuck's
04:03 trinque I really should head back to texas
04:03 trinque I left because what, the weather's not as agreeable as I'd like?
04:03 trinque that state loves capitalism above all else, and it's fucking good at it
04:04 trinque the christians aside; hell danielpbarron has made me hate them less
04:04 mircea_popescu lmao.
04:04 mircea_popescu funny how that works huh.
04:04 trinque mircea_popescu: they at least have a semi-coherent set of symbols to reason with!
04:04 trinque what the fuck is this in the pac NW
04:04 mircea_popescu turns out you weren't actually hating "the christians", but merely grew up in a restrictive environment where you could never talk to one.
04:05 trinque victimhood competition and women rule all
04:05 mircea_popescu which is kinda how the thing works.
04:05 trinque mircea_popescu: I think you're right about that.
04:05 trinque I was raised christian, reacted against the restrictiveness of that
04:05 trinque but having something that says "there is objective truth"
04:05 trinque yeah I'll take that over this nonsense any day
04:05 trinque it's a fucking starting point
04:06 Vexual WHOTS NOT?
04:06 Vexual acidengtal capas
04:06 trinque lol
04:07 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10lpglxnM0I
04:08 Vexual who knew aregenrti had a luna park?
04:08 Vexual did they meann kunar?
04:08 Vexual *lunar?\
04:09 Vexual prolly is as it was
04:10 Vexual samba weed
04:13 Vexual this is whhen fluffy pony should describe something useful about that other ocean, approachin brazil
04:14 Vexual cat ne'r leaves his villiages
04:14 brendafdez I was also raised Christian. Was horrible. Care to help? Even 1 cent you could spare helps me forget the terrible thing 14EVtRAFWTcDutoeHBLPjLewfMxGgPHcLv
04:15 brendafdez Otherwise I might have to go back to church. Don't force it upon me by not donating.
04:16 Vexual nah you can tell me, i you know
04:16 Vexual i resepect the sisters costyume
04:18 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/game-theoretic-game-theory/
04:19 Vexual or not, named brenda, you mihght have samw werk
04:19 mircea_popescu Vexual it's just what they call their madison square garden
04:19 Vexual dta sa ny things?
04:21 Vexual ney york city, i dont get ity
04:25 BingoBoingo Oh, things get interesting https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998257.0
04:25 assbot Gerald Davis aka DeathAndTaxes of BitSimple and Tangible Cryptography ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpTBHF )
04:26 BingoBoingo ^ Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Gerald Davis aka DeathAndTaxes of BitSimple and Tangible Cryptography
04:26 brendafdez Vexual in a way it does refer to the moon. From derpipedia: Luna Park is a name shared by dozens of currently operating and defunct amusement parks that have opened on every continent except Antarctica since 1903.
04:26 brendafdez History
04:26 brendafdez The first park to use the name was Coney Island's second major amusement park, designed by Frederic Thompson and Elmer "Skip" Dundy and opened in 1903. They named the park after the spaceship in their Pan-American Exposition ride "A Trip to the Moon".[1][2]
04:27 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo heh, check that out.
04:28 mircea_popescu you gonna qntra it ?
04:28 brendafdez Apparently the father of one of the founders of this space operated one such "Luna Park" in the early 20th century. And they picked the same name for the stadium.
04:28 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Need to source it better, but I'm going to pursue it.
04:29 mircea_popescu if the guy wants to interview...
04:30 mircea_popescu "I have no idea what he's been doing for a living in the years elapsed since then - if anything, then definitely not anything related to Bitcoin as a free entreprise. Maybe he's working a garden or teaching yoga. Maybe he's earning his living as a Bitcoin expert in the pay of those who do not wish to see Bitcoin free entreprise generally, and certainly not to the degree displayed by the free world. Whichever of these i
04:30 mircea_popescu t is, he's free to enlighten the world - I am curious like anyone's curious. What he can't do is pretend like "it doesn't matter". It does."
04:30 mircea_popescu i guess we got our answer huh.
04:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24579 @ 0.00025294 = 6.217 BTC [-] {2}
04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14648 @ 0.000251 = 3.6766 BTC [-]
04:38 BingoBoingo Also a different flavor of forum lol. Throwing money and hardware at a question learning can solve https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736607.msg8324168#msg8324168
04:38 assbot Check Balance of Multiple Bitcoin Addresses ( Non py, Non Linux ) ... ( http://bit.ly/19eDwUc )
04:38 mircea_popescu "The goal or problem is checking the balance of a ton of addresses without having to import them with keys without having to run a linux machine, without having to run anything in python, just plain and simple copy a list of addresses"
04:38 mircea_popescu lol ok.
04:38 mircea_popescu maybe he should put them in excel.
04:40 BingoBoingo Seriously makes "home brew semi-supercomputer with 128 gig ECC ram and 10 quad core intel processors with haswell architecture." Yet wants to avoid anything linux, python, or otherwise not MS Excel
04:42 mircea_popescu gmaxwell owns him downstream.
04:43 BingoBoingo Yeah
04:44 mircea_popescu "Incidentally, the private key of the first address in your list is 5HpHagT65TZzG1PH3CSu63k8DbpvD8s5ip4nEB3kEtHwQJ6fmT7"
04:44 mircea_popescu ahem ? and it still has a 22 cent balance ?
04:45 BingoBoingo lol
04:46 mircea_popescu ah i was looking at the wrong list.
04:53 trinque holy fuck are american women cunts
04:53 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/f54460da0cbc358c33a1304125119cb4/tumblr_mmwqr9Y3Ty1rsze6qo1_1280.jpg << the birth of an idea
04:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpYnoB )
04:53 trinque I said Lena Dunham should be burned alive and my erstwhile significant other had a meltdown
04:53 trinque lol
04:53 mircea_popescu who's that ?
04:54 trinque hell I'm not saying I'm going to burn her alive
04:54 trinque mircea_popescu: the writer for the HBO series "Girls"
04:54 mircea_popescu what's that ?
04:54 mircea_popescu (sorry)
04:54 trinque think cunty new york "you don't understand my complex problems"
04:54 trinque holy fuck I shall lay waste to everything in a five mile radius
04:55 mircea_popescu like sex and the city with better horseface ?
04:55 trinque yeah, more nudity and fucking, but even more american dysfunctional nerfed psychopathy
04:55 mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/d2b38d579244e0533bec003e5b3e7216/tumblr_mlvaa2QxTB1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg << this should probably be a show, incidentally.
04:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpYWyx )
04:56 trinque mircea_popescu: the xx beg to be shown the line, invoke the protection of the state in the same breath
04:56 trinque fuck all this shit
04:56 mircea_popescu lol why are you so angry anyway.
04:57 trinque because the part of me that stopped identifying with this place in the first person singular hasn't had enough of a conversation with the second and third person
04:57 trinque I have no fucking idea.
04:57 mircea_popescu lol.
04:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21033 @ 0.00025758 = 5.4177 BTC [+] {2}
04:59 mircea_popescu wow check that out, 25s.
04:59 trinque this is when ya go elsewhere, eh?
05:00 mircea_popescu hm ?
05:01 trinque it is not happenstance that this cunt is attacking me the week before I increase my income by 20x
05:01 trinque it makes no goddamn sense and all the sense in the world simultaneously
05:02 trinque flatland logic
05:02 * trinque switches wifi orifices
05:09 mircea_popescu wouldja simmer down lol. who's attacking you
05:09 mircea_popescu speaking of attax, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0bb8d587a7107cf506d209ecf0ea6e09/tumblr_mhabghhDSP1qjv9ywo1_1280.jpg
05:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oq1jS4 )
05:10 trinque mircea_popescu: my business pays this unemployed cunt's rent.
05:10 mircea_popescu is this like, a domestic dispute ?
05:10 trinque insofar as anyone on this continent knows what domesticity is
05:11 mircea_popescu lol people arguing over bad tv shows. cmon.
05:11 mircea_popescu meanwhile in france, http://40.media.tumblr.com/82ebdbbc01f1cf75b1362ddef04580fd/tumblr_mngsnbIuqw1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg
05:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xTyUJI )
05:11 trinque spent five years getting this thing profitable.
05:11 mircea_popescu (really it's socal, but who's cuntin)
05:11 trinque I have a CMS for making restaurant ordering web-apps
05:11 mircea_popescu ok, so what's teh prblm ?
05:17 trinque mircea_popescu: the dysfunction here is that male-female relationship here is taught as parternship
05:17 trinque what a load of shit
05:17 mircea_popescu it can be, why not.
05:17 trinque this girl is utterly intimidated by the fact that I might actually be holding some real money in my hands
05:17 trinque the idea of it in the future was fine
05:18 trinque yet the cultural context causes her to barge into places she does not belong
05:18 mircea_popescu haha, well, ranting angrily at her won't likely de-intimidate will it ?
05:18 trinque problem is I've been with women that *adored* the rants
05:19 trinque it's not as if I grabbed her and shook
05:19 mircea_popescu anyway. if you don't like her, get rid of her. if you like her, talk to her. that'll either sort out whatever or else make you not like her.
05:19 trinque I was talking about the future
05:19 mircea_popescu foolproof plan.
05:19 trinque let me just say the well is dry, and I'll stop bitching into the public record :D
05:19 mircea_popescu not like it ever did anything anyway.
05:20 trinque I get angry at our vulgarity
05:20 mircea_popescu wait, wut ?!
05:21 trinque this imaginary line I'm stuck within
05:23 mircea_popescu !up winner1
05:24 winner1 hello, I won a bet, but I have not been paid.
05:24 mircea_popescu link ?
05:25 winner1 The bet was resolved 5 days ago.
05:25 winner1 https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
05:25 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 1 month 6 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1CtSH6l )
05:25 mircea_popescu you can link to bets directly, it's on the date in front of them
05:25 mircea_popescu like https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b3
05:25 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 1 month 6 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oq4F7w )
05:26 winner1 yes, here is the link: https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b228
05:26 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 1 month 6 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oq4Kbl )
05:26 mircea_popescu o.O
05:26 trinque mircea_popescu: it's that the inmates collude with the prison guards. obviously I should just let that fact go
05:26 trinque I don't tend to that naturally
05:27 mircea_popescu winner1 thanks for pointing this out, it's suspicious as fuck. dunno what happened there yet but will look into it.
05:29 winner1 Yes, thank you for your quick response. I think I am the only one left. I bet 3 times in this bet. I got paid in two, But I did not get paid in this one.
05:29 mircea_popescu it's either a txn that for mysterious reasons din't get to propagate or i can't imagine what else. anyway, i'm on it, give it a day.
05:30 winner1 Ok, thank you very much. I was getting nervous, since I saw everyone getting paid, but me.
05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0002563 = 3.4857 BTC [+]
05:39 cazalla trinque, pro tip for free - don't get her pregnant
05:41 trinque cazalla: haven't, wont, and I'm out!
05:41 * trinque passes out
05:45 punkman catfight! http://i.imgur.com/KQFONlD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YP1Dcmk.jpg
05:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N5gOLF )
05:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N5gRas )
05:49 punkman so apparently in UK, airmail means two weeks by truck, and overnight express, means 6+ days.
05:57 brendafdez punkman still better than AR...
06:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform re earlier thread, check this out : http://trilema.com/2015/game-theoretic-game-theory/#comment-113249
06:01 assbot Game theoretic game theory pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1N5jFo3 )
06:01 mircea_popescu "1,3mn euros confiscated - guy couldn't show where he got it"
06:01 mircea_popescu it's not just random picassos.
06:03 brendafdez punkman I've had all kind of bad experiences with the post, from them stealing from a box of alfajores I was shipping abroad, to them refusing to send a letter (even though it was within weight and size limits) because "there was an object inside" (!!). Long delays is the success scenario.
06:04 mircea_popescu or just cross the river and send from there.
06:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12275 @ 0.0002563 = 3.1461 BTC [+]
06:05 punkman brendafdez: I don't mind China Post taking 4 weeks, because they don't pretend otherwise
06:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo check it out, halep won indian wells
06:06 brendafdez yes, but sometimes it's not worth it. Having to cross the river to send a letter with "an object inside" to a recepient in Argentina would be hilarious. That time they insisted letters were paper only. :D
06:09 punkman ssbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0002563 = 3.4857 BTC [+] << all-time lows?
06:09 mircea_popescu well not all time, but long time fo sho
06:09 brendafdez punkman back in the days when we still didn't have to go through this amount of bureaucratic shit to receive shipments from abroad, and when I was doing it very often, the ones from the UK used to be the fastest. I'm surprised that your experience with the RM has been bad.
06:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, speaking of having problems, viktor Ianukovici jr died yest.
06:12 punkman mircea_popescu: I don't see anything lower at btcalpha
06:12 mircea_popescu after peklusenko's "suicide"...
06:12 mircea_popescu punkman lemme see here.
06:12 mircea_popescu May 22 04:06:33 <`MBot>[ MPEX ] [ TRADE ] [ S.MPOE ] [ 150 @ 0.00021419BTC = 0.032128 BTC ]
06:13 brendafdez Oh, suicides are also common over there? :P
06:14 punkman mircea_popescu: oic, btcalpha only goes back to Oct 2012
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27648 @ 0.00024773 = 6.8492 BTC [-]
06:14 punkman guessing that's May 2012
06:14 mircea_popescu basically 2012 level
06:14 mircea_popescu yea
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8094 @ 0.00024773 = 2.0051 BTC [-]
06:36 mircea_popescu !up drawingthesun
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06:55 mircea_popescu ;;later tell brendafdez it should redirect you properly now
06:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
07:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00025755 = 3.992 BTC [+] {2}
07:12 davout trinque: just wanted to see who'd actually read the deeds :)
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07:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16979 @ 0.00025872 = 4.3928 BTC [+] {2}
07:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18498 @ 0.00026157 = 4.8385 BTC [+] {2}
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07:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00026196 = 7.623 BTC [+] {2}
07:58 danielpbarron height=293178 vs height=215096
07:58 mircea_popescu almost there.
07:59 danielpbarron 21G .bitcoin/ << unless 0.5.3.1 takes up less space, this is a little over half way
08:08 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
08:08 gribble Current Blocks: 348835 | Current Difficulty: 4.671754964470642E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 350783 | Next Difficulty In: 1948 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 3 hours, 53 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43599364024.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.67455
08:08 mircea_popescu hory shit you're right.
08:08 mircea_popescu past 10% of blocks, 50% of total disk space.
08:10 Adlai must be the hostile ddos bot
08:11 mircea_popescu http://www.hanewin.net/encrypt/PGencode.htm << this is pretty interesting
08:11 assbot OpenPGP Message Encryption in JavaScript Demo ... ( http://bit.ly/1xcON2S )
08:12 Adlai bitproof has an interface for 'signing' using the mouse
08:12 * Adlai always found those somewhere between amusing and horrifying
08:13 mircea_popescu no no this is smart : it encrypts to YOUR key.
08:14 mircea_popescu as in, random derp w/o gpg installed wants to send mp stuff encrypted to mp's key, there's page on mp's site with javascript
08:20 punkman the problem is how do you communicate to derps that they should use actual PGP for the "important" stuff
08:21 mircea_popescu "Networking Software for Windows" you know ?
08:21 mircea_popescu i suppose the communication starts with "gtfo off windoze"
08:21 * Adlai only refers people to hanewin after explaining that they're just trusting some random site, instead of google or facebook
08:22 Adlai but many people prefer trusting random strangers over known evils
08:22 mircea_popescu technically, it's js, so they're not trusting the site.
08:22 punkman if they have to mitm the javascript, sure that does raise the cost, but is it worth the false sense of security
08:22 Adlai you could probably give this audience an identical security theater with js that sends plaintext
08:24 Adlai speaking of encryption: https://blog.bitproof.io/we-3-encryption/
08:24 assbot We <3 encryption ... ( http://bit.ly/1xcPiKf )
08:25 mircea_popescu punkman probably cheapest approach to diddle the js to encrypt to two keys. transparent enough to do, and then get somewhere else the msg.
08:25 mircea_popescu still, more pgp flowing through the tubes is a net gain
08:25 mircea_popescu anyway, i didn't know about it b4.
08:25 punkman on that note, Enigmail has warning message that they will only support gpg2 soon
08:26 Adlai a few darknet markets have used such a system too, which raises the question of why anyderpy used any of the markets that didn't
08:26 punkman mircea_popescu: we've linked to gpg JS implementations so many times, I thought this use case was obvious
08:27 Adlai !s hanewin.net
08:27 assbot 0 results for 'hanewin.net' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hanewin.net
08:27 Adlai !s www.hanewin.net
08:27 assbot 0 results for 'www.hanewin.net' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=www.hanewin.net
08:27 Adlai !s *hanewin.net*
08:27 assbot : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%2Ahanewin.net%2A
08:27 mircea_popescu punkman theoretically. i just had nfi anyone had actually done it.
08:27 Adlai !s http://www.hanewin.net*
08:27 assbot 0 results for 'http://www.hanewin.net*' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hanewin.net%2A
08:27 Adlai blargh
08:28 punkman there's also a bunch of these https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp2pgpmail/
08:28 assbot WordPress › wp2pgpmail « WordPress Plugins ... ( http://bit.ly/1IjT8SX )
08:28 mircea_popescu on that note, you can't say enigmail without nig mail.
08:28 Adlai and "gpg" doesn't actually contain "privacy"
08:28 Adlai but it makes gnu feel pretty good
08:29 mircea_popescu "Do have any PGP key? Try our online PGP key generator"
08:29 mircea_popescu ahahahaha okay.
08:29 mircea_popescu listen, this wp stuff is braindamaged.
08:29 Adlai it's ok, just download this chrome extension that validates our javascript!
08:29 punkman myeah I've had too much of that WP spaghetti
08:30 punkman no more
08:30 mircea_popescu anyway, the wp stuff is more of what i thought we had discussed many times.
08:32 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01wQa0ctK-Y
08:32 assbot The Bryan Ferry Orchestra - Reason or Rhyme [1920s Jazz Version] (2012) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xcPGby )
08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00026084 = 1.7346 BTC [-]
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08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5971 @ 0.00026084 = 1.5575 BTC [-]
08:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00025653 = 1.5648 BTC [-]
09:05 danielpbarron not the most scientific experiment as I didn't start them at the same place or same time, but it might be worth noting that the debug.log for the solid state drive pogo is smaller than the other one
09:05 danielpbarron despite validating many more blocks per day
09:06 danielpbarron the slower node spams its debug.log with lines that have nothing to do with validating a block
09:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15832 @ 0.00026072 = 4.1277 BTC [+] {2}
09:19 jurov http://www.iflscience.com/space/whats-going-mars-one
09:19 assbot Mars One Finalist Announces That It's All A Scam | IFLScience ... ( http://bit.ly/19KIucz )
09:31 nubbins` <trinque> increase my income by 20x, girl is utterly intimidated, <<< i have to ask, are you quitting your job in order to sell CMS software to restaurants?
09:31 nubbins` please tell me that this isn't the case, and if it is, please tell me that you're not just upset at your girlfriend because she called you a moron for making this decision
09:31 nubbins` BECAUSE.....
09:32 nubbins` (cough)
09:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13647 @ 0.00025502 = 3.4803 BTC [-]
09:37 * Adlai back when he worked in a preseed startup used to joke that he got a 20x raise each week and a 25% monthly bonus
09:37 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/patrick-brazeau-s-sexual-assault-trial-starts-today-1.3003608
09:37 assbot Patrick Brazeau's sexual assault trial starts today - Politics - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/19KKnWH )
09:37 nubbins` Adlai "20x raise" generally makes people VERY suspicious as to the absolute value of your starting salary
09:38 Adlai cf 'free advice is worth what you paid for it'
09:38 Adlai some would maintain that it's infinitely more valuable than its price
09:40 nubbins` or undefined more valuable
09:40 nubbins` depending on how you math
09:44 brendafdez "The gold market marched into the 21st century [...] me banks reluctant to participate" http://www.wsj.com/articles/gold-market-launches-electronic-pricing-mechanism-1426874345
09:44 assbot Gold Market Launches Electronic Pricing Mechanism - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1ECmyrN )
09:45 nubbins` (given that free advice can only cost $0, the set of possible costs for said free advice is a zero ring, which precludes the set from being a field, which means that division by zero is not required to be undefined, which means that your assertion that it's infinitely more valuable is, at least superficially, true)
09:45 * nubbins` coughs, blinks
09:45 nubbins` i mean, uh.
09:45 nubbins` i left that life behind me long ago and i don't know what just happened
09:45 Adlai yeah bro
09:46 nubbins` s/true/possible/
09:46 Adlai what about f/ladvice
09:47 nubbins` wat
09:47 Adlai cf f/loss
09:48 Adlai cf gnu plus linux
09:48 Adlai etc
09:48 * Adlai babbles
09:50 nubbins` :0
09:52 nubbins` http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-integrates-with-online-comment-hosting-service-disqus/
09:52 assbot ChangeTip Integrates With Online Comment Hosting Service Disqus ... ( http://bit.ly/1ECndJM )
09:54 nubbins` tangentially, i wonder if someone who chose to name their company "Eris Industries" ever used IRC in the 90s.
09:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5640 @ 0.00025956 = 1.4639 BTC [+] {2}
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10:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14503 @ 0.00026072 = 3.7812 BTC [+]
10:21 bitstein Is there a reason WoT ratings are not required to be GPG signed?
10:21 Adlai sloth
10:21 thestringpuller cause you are authenticating with a GPG interface
10:21 thestringpuller albeit over IRC
10:22 Adlai and then trusting that assbot/gribble is requiring the same of everybody else
10:22 thestringpuller bitstein: I do think nanotube 's federated WoT requires GPG signature for ratings.
10:22 Adlai and trusting that people don't leave authenticated irc accounts idle accessible to random passersby
10:22 bitstein That just allows the server to know it is talking to who it thinks it is talking to, but it doesn't guarantee the server hasn't fabricated data.
10:23 thestringpuller bitstein: yes we know there isn't a federated system yet :P
10:23 Adlai bitstein: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014153
10:23 assbot Logged on 10-02-2015 01:46:55; nanotube: <nanotube> hey, sorry for delay in reply, been busy, still busy. just to give you a quick preview, i'm thinking/working on implementing everything-signed, using a framework sort of like this: http://bitcoin-otc.com/newsite/rate.php
10:23 bitstein Adlai, thanks, was looking for that.
10:24 Pierre_Rochard ^ looking forward to that
10:24 bitstein Sweet, I look forward to that.
10:25 thestringpuller its up to kako if he wants to support it with asswot
10:25 thestringpuller if not you'll have to just access asswot-db through irc
10:28 nubbins` <+Adlai> and trusting that people don't leave authenticated irc accounts idle accessible to random passersby <<< vs trusting that their pgp implementation doesn't cache their passphrase 8)
10:29 Adlai vs trusting that their fourthhand lemon laptop didn't get interceptiddled in the mail
10:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00025502 = 5.0111 BTC [-]
10:30 nubbins` haha
10:31 nubbins` no, that doesn't happen anymore since cisco started drop-shipping to abandoned houses
10:31 nubbins` ;p
10:32 nubbins` because the NSA sort room at the mail facility is scanning the send address instead of the return address, or something.
10:36 thestringpuller its up to kako if he wants to support it with asswot
10:36 thestringpuller ~
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6072 @ 0.00025502 = 1.5485 BTC [-]
10:37 thestringpuller nubbins`: doesn't cache their passphrase << i change my passphrase every time I use my key. /tinfoil hat
10:39 funkenstein_ new kunstler out: http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/kicked-to-the-curb/
10:39 assbot Kicked to the Curb | KUNSTLER ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsDebc )
10:41 nubbins` thestringpuller i know, the keylogger sees all
10:41 nubbins` i mean.
10:41 nubbins` orly?
10:44 funkenstein_ "The gold market marched into the 21st century Friday with the launch of a new electronic platform designed to make the daily market price benchmark less vulnerable to manipulation."
10:45 funkenstein_ that's right "the gold market" is a single entity which works towards being "less manipulated".
10:47 nubbins` good for it!
10:53 funkenstein_ maybe gold is kind of like btc in 2010 when there was "the bitcoin market" aka gox
10:54 thestringpuller Gold is so hard to move.
10:55 nubbins` ^
10:55 funkenstein_ true and hard to assay
10:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00025621 = 2.3779 BTC [+] {2}
10:57 funkenstein_ coinabul is still up if you feel like being defrauded
10:58 nubbins` plenty of places to buy gold w/ btc
10:58 nubbins` silvergoldbull, amagi, quadrigacx...
10:59 funkenstein_ coinabul doesn't acutally ship anything though
10:59 nubbins` o
10:59 funkenstein_ not that I expect the other ones too, but just happened to read through some of the coinabul complaint threads
11:00 nubbins` shrug
11:00 nubbins` have bought Au from a couple of the above
11:00 funkenstein_ escrow is a thing
11:01 funkenstein_ i heard amagi shipped at least sometimes
11:01 nubbins` i've ordered from them 2 or 3 times
11:02 nubbins` these days, you don't get to see the BTC price (and thus the exchange rate) until the last step in the checkout process
11:02 nubbins` which is meh
11:03 nubbins` incidentally, i tried to sell some gold on the forums a while back, no takers
11:03 nubbins` shrug
11:03 danielpbarron bitstein, thestringpuller why should we be signing everything but the kitchen sink? you shouldn't use assbot's return as gospel -- the WoT lets you know who and what to ask about a person before doing business
11:03 danielpbarron if a rating is false, let the user speak up about it
11:04 bitstein danielpbarron: why aren't you signing the kitchen sink?
11:05 danielpbarron see also: ascii_field
11:06 kakobrekla http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/images-fool-computer-vision-raise-security-concerns
11:06 assbot Images that fool computer vision raise security concerns | Cornell Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsNCjh )
11:07 Adlai this is a good point... even if each wot rating is signed, this can be a false friend - what if you're not looking at the latest version of the ratings? if only we had some way of achieving trust-minimized consensus...
11:08 danielpbarron fiddle with it too much and you'll end up like the "smart contracts" people
11:09 asciilifeform trinque: (re: earlier thread) why would the woman object to your having money? or was it that you earned it 'sinfully' ?
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00026011 = 3.5115 BTC [+] {2}
11:10 Adlai doesn't need much fiddling, just checksum the federated database into a deed
11:11 asciilifeform kakobrekla: recall my fpga story at conf. II ? same idea
11:11 Adlai and to prevent withholding, no news is also news
11:11 asciilifeform (re: 'images that fool computer vision')
11:11 asciilifeform '“We realized that the neural nets did not encode knowledge necessary to produce an image of a fire truck, only the knowledge necessary to tell fire trucks apart from other classes,” he explained.' << no shit
11:12 asciilifeform 'If a new image was identified as a particular class with more certainty than the original, the researchers would discard the old version and continue to mutate the new one. Eventually this produced images that were recognized by the DNN with over 99 percent confidence but were not recognizable to human vision.' << i though everybody's tried this as a student. works great
11:12 punkman W.Gibson has a fun bit about "the ugliest shirt in the world" which allows the wearer to not be recognized by CV systems
11:12 Adlai https://xkcd.com/1425/
11:12 assbot xkcd: Tasks ... ( http://bit.ly/1IkvNAG )
11:13 asciilifeform punkman: that almost happened in life!
11:13 asciilifeform !s eurion
11:13 assbot 0 results for 'eurion' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=eurion
11:13 asciilifeform https://web.duke.edu/isis/gessler/collections/steg-eurion-constellation.htm
11:13 assbot Steganography - EURion Constellation ... ( http://bit.ly/1IkvWUJ )
11:13 asciilifeform http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/projects/currency << more pertinent
11:13 assbot Software Detection of Currency :: Projects :: Steven J. Murdoch ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ikw2vA )
11:14 asciilifeform and also, 'Both PSP and Photoshop identify this image (from an Adobe Forum discussion) as being currency and refuse to open it, despite there being no instance of the Eurion constellation...' << 'eurion' is only the -publicly known- trick of this variety. no one knows how many other boobytraps lurk in idiot closed-source image processors
11:14 asciilifeform we had a thread in #b-a about this, i'm quite certain
11:15 asciilifeform but it is very much gibson's 'ugly shirt.'
11:16 punkman there was also some guy with an anti-CV face makeup art project
11:16 Adlai they're all using the same constellation? -_-
11:16 asciilifeform Adlai: no. see 2nd link.
11:16 punkman interesting that UK adopted EURion for GBP
11:17 asciilifeform 'eurion' is just one of the unknown number of traps
11:17 asciilifeform which, in turn, only work because of 'voluntary' collusion with adobe (photoshit) and printer makers
11:17 asciilifeform yes, same printer makers as had the yellow microdots
11:18 asciilifeform (serial number of printer on every page)
11:18 asciilifeform 'for your own good' of course
11:18 asciilifeform http://seeingyellow.com
11:18 assbot Seeing Yellow ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsTf14 )
11:18 punkman I've been wondering how I'd go about finding a non-shit printer
11:18 asciilifeform 'Most color laser printers made and sold today intentionally add invisible information to make it easier to determine where (and when) a particular document was printed. This seems to have been done as part of a secret deal between the United States Secret Service and the individual manufacturers. Some of the manufacturers have mentioned the existence of the tracking information in their documentation, and others haven't. None
11:18 asciilifeform of them have explained exactly how it works or what information is conveyed. No law requires printer companies to help track printer users this way, and no law prevents them from stopping this practice or giving customers a solution to avoid being tracked.'
11:19 asciilifeform ^ for anyone who was sleeping in a cave for the past decade
11:24 thestringpuller asciilifeform: this is why you have nubbins` screen print your ransome notes on some high class paper
11:25 nubbins` ^ this *is* true
11:27 danielpbarron well the illegal image opens fine in GIMP
11:28 nubbins` ^ this is also true
11:28 nubbins` FWIW i think it's only laser printers that do this
11:28 nubbins` i know for a fact that my wide-format Epson doesn't
11:28 nubbins` (how? because the yellow tank contains black ink!)
11:28 danielpbarron would be quite funny if they put the detection algorithm into an open source image manipulator
11:29 nubbins` fwiw the detection algo would be impossibly easy to replicate
11:29 nubbins` since we know the shape of the constellation :D
11:29 danielpbarron http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/projects/currency/min.png <- oh do you?
11:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsXF7W )
11:30 nubbins` what am i looking at
11:30 danielpbarron "currency"
11:31 nubbins` oh n/m
11:31 nubbins` well then!
11:33 danielpbarron It has been reported that generating a false negative is easy, perhaps as simple as using images of two notes, side-by-side, rather than just one. << LOL
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00025454 = 1.3236 BTC [-]
11:41 trinque nubbins`: no, this is in reference to my startup of 5 years which has actual revenue
11:41 trinque asciilifeform: making money sinfully, yes
11:41 trinque anyhow, clarity of the morning is; I'm through with her
11:42 trinque when I start refining human flesh into foodstuffs we can talk about sinfully earned money
11:44 funkenstein_ sounds more economic than cremation
11:44 funkenstein_ "methodical illusions" <-- looks like an interesting read
11:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00026198 = 1.5588 BTC [+]
11:52 fluffypony http://www.businessinsider.com/25-most-exciting-bitcoin-startups-in-the-world-ethereum-21-coinbase-coindesk-2015-3?op=1
11:52 assbot The 25 most exciting bitcoin startups in the world - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/19fkZr5 )
11:52 fluffypony cringeworthy
11:52 fluffypony "20. Ripple: Fixing the flaws in bitcoin"
11:53 fluffypony the 20th most exciting Bitcoin startup is something trying to replace Bitcoin with a massively centralised system?
11:53 fluffypony well ok then
11:54 fluffypony oh and there we go, Ethereum at number 2
11:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00025858 = 1.2929 BTC [-]
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6966 @ 0.00025858 = 1.8013 BTC [-]
12:01 danielpbarron what is #1? the federal reserve?
12:01 funkenstein_ "21 What is 21? Outside of a chosen few, no one knows for sure" <-- number one
12:02 danielpbarron 16. Circle: Taking the bitcoin out of bitcoin << certainly a theme here
12:03 danielpbarron i see btcjam made the list
12:04 Adlai the excitingness of "21" is bounded only by the imagination of the ignorant
12:04 danielpbarron oh ethereum shares the #2 spot with counterparty which isn't remotely close to being the same thing despite what this article suggests
12:04 nubbins` http://www.discogs.com/Metz-Ripped-On-The-Fence-Dry-Up/master/511499
12:04 assbot Metz - Ripped On The Fence / Dry Up at Discogs ... ( http://bit.ly/1G5PoFk )
12:05 Adlai nah, they're the same: http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-recreates-ethereums-smart-contract-platform-on-bitcoin/
12:05 assbot Counterparty Recreates Ethereum’s Smart Contract Platform on Bitcoin | Counterparty ... ( http://bit.ly/1G5Ppcn )
12:05 thestringpuller when did businessinsider become gawker?
12:05 nubbins` TIL i own a 7" single that's worth $85
12:05 nubbins` :0
12:07 danielpbarron well dang .. i didn't know they added that nonsense
12:08 danielpbarron Anything that one could ever do with Ethereum, one can now do with Bitcoin and Counterparty. << i guess that's the final nail in ethereum's coffin
12:09 Adlai no, it's the nail in counterparty's coffin: https://github.com/ethereum/serpent/commit/f509f4d
12:09 assbot counterparty example · ethereum/serpent@f509f4d · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/19fn3iI )
12:09 funkenstein_ so I can put a non-halting program into the blockchain, and all counterparty nodes will stall?
12:10 Adlai or maybe, they nailgunned eachother simultaneously
12:11 Adlai aiui, you could only stall nodes of either network up to the amount of computation you're willing to subsidize
12:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00025609 = 2.164 BTC [-] {2}
12:12 funkenstein_ hmm that sounds interesting, i wonder how that is quantified
12:13 punkman lol "Python numbers have potentially unlimited size, Serpent numbers wrap around 2256. For example, in Serpent the expression 3^(2^254) suprisingly evaluates to 1"
12:14 funkenstein_ what do you bet they use 32 bits or more to model that behavior?
12:16 funkenstein_ i think line number two is pretty important and looks like a common theme from the ethereum team
12:17 funkenstein_ +# Not yet tested
12:17 punkman nobody's gonna use it, so why spend time testing :P
12:22 Adlai yeah... https://github.com/jonasnick/eth-neg-value-tx
12:22 assbot jonasnick/eth-neg-value-tx · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/19fozRV )
12:23 Adlai at least they pay out bounties in btc
12:23 nubbins` Serpent, the ideal language for businesses who don't need more than 2,256 of anything
12:24 nubbins` wait, that was superscript in src, wasn't it 8)
12:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5331 @ 0.00026202 = 1.3968 BTC [+] {2}
12:27 punkman nubbins`, yeah
12:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12601 @ 0.00026288 = 3.3126 BTC [+] {2}
12:29 Adlai still a little silly for the platform bandied about as turing-complete to lack actual bignums
12:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14799 @ 0.00026756 = 3.9596 BTC [+]
12:30 Adlai cf http://nosuchlabs.com/prod
12:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19fpnpZ )
12:32 punkman Adlai, and for extra fun "Short strings, given simply in quotes as above, are treated as numbers; long strings, surrounded by the text keyword as above, are treated as array-like objects"
12:34 * Adlai is fairly certain that phuctor is written in cl
12:34 Adlai just a hunch...
12:35 BingoBoingo <nubbins`> tangentially, i wonder if someone who chose to name their company "Eris Industries" ever used IRC in the 90s. << Incredilol
12:40 nubbins` i can't imagine they did :D
12:55 PeterL https://bitbet.us/bet/1127/qntra-to-the-moon/ uses assbot at a resolution source, does assbot keep historical price records?
12:55 assbot BitBet - Qntra to the moon :: 0.31 B (79%) on Yes, 0.08 B (21%) on No | closing in 6 months 6 days | weight: 90`974 (100`000 to 10) ... ( http://bit.ly/19fs1Mm )
12:55 nubbins` mod6 ben_vulpes FWIW 0.5.3.1 downloading blocks on Darwin nubs.local 13.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.4.0: Wed Dec 17 19:05:52 PST 2014; root:xnu-2422.115.10~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
12:55 nubbins` ^ with apologies to asciilifeform
12:57 thestringpuller PeterL: it's just assking about 30 day which it calculated by !t
12:58 thestringpuller basically:
12:58 thestringpuller !t m s.mpoe
12:58 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00024773 / 0.00026264 / 0.00028284 (859358 shares, 225.70 BTC), 7D: 0.00024773 / 0.00029475 / 0.00033536 (18132562 shares, 5,344.64 BTC), 30D: 0.00024773 / 0.0003534 / 0.00048515 (82282113 shares, 29,078.73 BTC)
12:59 thestringpuller !t m s.qntr
12:59 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00021105 / 0.00026069 / 0.000301 (36659 shares, 9.56 BTC)
12:59 PeterL so for the yes side to win, somebody has to do !t for each here while the qntr is a higher price
12:59 thestringpuller if the middle value on 30d for S.QNTR > correlated value for S.MPOE
13:01 thestringpuller make sense PeterL ?
13:01 PeterL it just seems like it should use a resolution source which can be checked later on, like when the bet ends
13:03 thestringpuller why? we've used ;;ticker before to resolve bets...so....
13:03 thestringpuller and mike_c sorta stores historical MPEx data :P
13:03 PeterL I guess anybody who bets on yes should make a point to come in here and do !t for each periodically
13:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00026756 = 3.0368 BTC [+]
13:19 jurov currently no need to check so often, it's still 0.0003534 vs. 0.00026069
13:22 jurov !depth m s.qntr
13:22 jurov $depth s.qntr
13:24 jurov lol current qntr sell depth is just bitcents. if i wanted to sway it for the bet to win, would have to start trading with myself
13:25 PeterL but it wouldn't take much coin to push it up above the s.mpex price, and then you just need a bit of self-trading to keep it there a month
13:25 PeterL s.mpoe price i mean
13:26 jurov yes, but with risk someone notices and will try to dump the shares on that price
13:27 PeterL there's not a whole lot of shares trading with which to dump
13:27 PeterL but still not worth it as the bet currently stands
13:29 jurov why not? there are tens of btc worth shares floating, someone bought them at < 0.0003
13:30 PeterL what I mean is there is such a small amount bet on the bet, you might spend more than you would win holding the price up. Spend tens of btc to win .003 btc?
13:31 PeterL unless you convince somebody to put some money down on no before you do the manipulation
13:32 jurov oh you're looking from no side, mkay.
13:33 PeterL or you think it would be easier to hold the s.qntr price down so no wins?
13:34 funkenstein_ nubbins, re: 0.5.3.1 after a couple days i am up to 220k blocks. just like the old days isn't it?
13:47 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
13:47 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.15, Best ask: 267.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 267.32, 24 hour volume: 23415.63076852, 24 hour low: 260.91, 24 hour high: 271.5, 24 hour vwap: None
13:47 ben_vulpes ah it's so nice to see people building and running the RI
13:51 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:52 ascii_field Adlai: http://nosuchlabs.com/prod << the maths engine is actually using boring old gmp -- same as gpg's
13:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/19fpnpZ )
13:52 Adlai ah, too bad
13:52 ascii_field Adlai: go and try letting something like this cons!
13:52 ascii_field see what kind of latency you get.
13:53 ascii_field (c-machine - sucks)
13:54 ascii_field danielpbarron: well the illegal image opens fine in GIMP << only half the story. before long, it won't print on printer, or even display on display.
13:54 ascii_field the basic idea - owner-hostile hardware - is gaining ground.
13:55 ascii_field presently the cheapest way to fight back is to extract the 'magic' algorithms and make sure the patterns start to appear in inconvenient places
13:55 ascii_field such as in front of news cameras
13:55 ascii_field or painted as graffiti, even
13:56 danielpbarron oo, that reminds me of an article you once pasted in here
13:56 danielpbarron about a parrot or something
13:56 ascii_field 'blit' ?
13:56 ascii_field short story
13:56 ascii_field http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm
13:56 assbot BLIT - a short story by David Langford ... ( http://bit.ly/1N7gg8a )
13:56 danielpbarron yes that
13:57 ascii_field slightly different idea. boobytrap for flesh.
13:57 ascii_field the thing with the diddled printers/image editors/etc is an actual thing today
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00026123 = 1.5674 BTC [-]
13:57 ascii_field for instance, there is talk of mandating that digital cameras obey a magic remote off signal
13:58 ascii_field ostensibly for movie theatres
13:58 ascii_field but srsly.
13:58 PeterL obviously to stop videoing police
13:58 Adlai otoh, the movie theater proprietor who jams cellphone signals during screenings can marry my firstborn daughter
13:58 ben_vulpes <ascii_field> presently the cheapest way to fight back is to extract the 'magic' algorithms and make sure the patterns start to appear in inconvenient places << oh this is bril
13:58 ascii_field or the chinese toy chopper maker who 'volunteered' to gps-restrict the machine
13:59 PeterL I've never noticed people using cell phones at movies
13:59 Adlai you must live in a civilized place
13:59 ascii_field PeterL: visit an american idiotopolis some time
13:59 jurov http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/images-fool-computer-vision-raise-security-concerns lol i had this opened already
13:59 assbot Images that fool computer vision raise security concerns | Cornell Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1LOXCX7 )
14:00 PeterL but I wouldn't notice the denver massacre if it was happening around me while I am watching a movie
14:00 jurov let them try to autodetect "illegal content"
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4403 @ 0.00026123 = 1.1502 BTC [-]
14:01 ascii_field jurov: it's one small step to usg prosecuting folks making hardware that doesn't obey magic bit
14:01 ascii_field and before anyone says 'nuttery' - there is precedent
14:01 ascii_field 'macrovision'
14:01 * Adlai doesn't understand why warez doodz don't excise the pattern detectors from eg photoshop
14:01 punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinavia
14:01 assbot Cinavia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LOXVBu )
14:01 ascii_field cemented in place a bug in ntsc
14:01 Adlai although that would graduate said dood from pirate to counterfeiter
14:02 ascii_field Adlai: part of it is that folks dislike heavily patched w4r3z
14:02 ascii_field Adlai: difficult to tell from infection
14:03 Adlai in this case, wouldn't it be as simple as diddling a single routine to always return false?
14:03 Adlai that can be distributed as a separate patch, with sample files to verify that it does what is said
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00026756 = 1.8997 BTC [+]
14:06 nubbins` mircea_popescu BingoBoingo cazalla thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/QXYS4ee.png
14:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LOYZFf )
14:06 jurov so no ads ever?
14:06 nubbins` shrug
14:07 nubbins` i just took that from the "about" page
14:07 ascii_field Adlai: diddling a single routine to always return false << only if the implementers were morons
14:07 jurov ah. you can try "no milk" instead :DD
14:07 nubbins` heh
14:07 nubbins` someone with an actual connection to qntra can feel free to provide different copy if they wish
14:07 nubbins` all that matters to me is the shape of the sentences
14:10 danielpbarron nubbins`, what about this url ? http://qntra.net/author/bingoboingo/
14:10 assbot Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1N7jNDr )
14:10 PeterL asciilifeform:aviation, by and large, only works when you're a mega-state with maxint constantly replaced slaves to parasitise << depends if you are going for "go up in the air", or "survive dogfight with megastate"
14:11 ascii_field PeterL: 'go up' is mighty expensive also.
14:11 ascii_field PeterL: soviet planes often had mtbf measured in tens of hours.
14:11 PeterL wright brothers were working in their garage
14:11 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Committing to no ads in print potentially means committing to no Ads forever. We'll say what cazalla says, but 'No Milk' or other joke may be longer lasting
14:12 ascii_field PeterL: wrights had ready-made engines to go with.
14:12 nubbins` danielpbarron don't ask me, ask him :D
14:12 ascii_field PeterL: but if you want to build a cardboard kite - yes, you can.
14:12 nubbins` BingoBoingo nod
14:12 funkenstein_ it's a publicly traded non profit ?
14:13 nubbins` your logic has no place here
14:13 BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Profit is planned eventually, hopefully. Hence can't commit to no ads
14:13 funkenstein_ ok thanks
14:13 ascii_field didn't ben_vulpes demonstrate that ads are dead ?
14:13 PeterL wouldn't ads provide milk? or am I misunderstanding that reference?
14:14 PeterL I thought ben_vulpes only stopped because too busy with other stuff?
14:14 funkenstein_ in the meantime you could put a donation address up
14:14 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Author urls might be overloading the card with too much information
14:15 ben_vulpes PeterL: bit of column a, bit of column b.
14:17 ascii_field at any rate, i assumed that the ads thing was neither fun nor threatened to replace ben_vulpes's day job
14:21 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
14:26 ascii_field trinque: why sinfully? curious about the story
14:26 ascii_field trinque: why would woman object to your having money ?
14:27 ascii_field trinque: esp. if she was (as you appear to suggest) a pet
14:36 ben_vulpes https://github.com/ethereum/serpent/commit/f509f4d#diff-3d8daf295c9ed9c3fd9f9d9113dd24cfR2 << hyuuuu
14:36 assbot counterparty example · ethereum/serpent@f509f4d · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1N7q2Ho )
14:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00026117 = 4.1918 BTC [-] {2}
14:47 thestringpuller wtf, #4 changetip? how is throwing change at each other like hobos noteworthy?
14:47 nubbins` i've had people "tip" me dimes on a couple of occasion
14:47 nubbins` one guy tried to give me a buck
14:48 nubbins` utterly repugnant, yet too oblivious to realize
14:48 ascii_field dime: useless; nsa tracking beacon - priceless
14:48 nubbins` ascii_field after a few pestering PMs, changetip returned the money to its original owner
14:48 nubbins` (they won't hold your dime forever!)
14:50 thestringpuller nubbins`: https://youtu.be/hRFMu3zb5dA?t=1m53s
14:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00026756 = 2.9164 BTC [+]
14:51 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:52 nubbins` ^ dat event trigger
14:52 PeterL http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1064867 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1064869 << somewhere I have an excel function that does this, grabs balance from blockchain.info or some such website
14:52 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 08:38:46; mircea_popescu: "The goal or problem is checking the balance of a ton of addresses without having to import them with keys without having to run a linux machine, without having to run anything in python, just plain and simple copy a list of addresses"
14:52 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 08:38:53; mircea_popescu: maybe he should put them in excel.
14:52 ascii_field 'without having to run a linux machine' << wai wat
14:53 PeterL some people think linux is hard?
14:53 PeterL and windoze is easy!
14:53 nubbins` ascii_field https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736607.msg8323424#msg8323424
14:53 assbot Check Balance of Multiple Bitcoin Addresses ( Non py, Non Linux ) ... ( http://bit.ly/1G6J7cs )
14:53 ascii_field 'the goal or problem is not stinking of shit, without having to use a toilet, without having to wear diapers, just plain and simple not stinking of shit'
14:54 nubbins` man
14:54 * ascii_field offers a tube of 'superglue'
14:54 nubbins` OP is a fucking dog cunt
14:54 nubbins` srsly, read that post
14:54 ascii_field i did.
14:54 nubbins` "Things we dont need: " <followed by several actual solutions
14:55 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736607.msg8356907#msg8356907
14:55 assbot Check Balance of Multiple Bitcoin Addresses ( Non py, Non Linux ) ... ( http://bit.ly/1G6JILg )
14:55 nubbins` choice lels
14:56 ascii_field wtf he even needed this for
14:57 nubbins` because haxxor
14:57 nubbins` he had an idea
14:57 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Retarded scanning all the private keys possibru idear
14:58 ascii_field BingoBoingo: but this is ancient idea. handled by existing code
14:58 nubbins` sure, but he's obviously retarded
14:58 ascii_field that this is so - was obvious
14:58 nubbins` some guy made him a fuckin jar file for him to run and he can't figure out how to use it
14:58 ascii_field question was what flavour of retardation
14:59 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Headwater?
14:59 nubbins` "do it for me 100% or it won't get done and you're mean" retardation
14:59 ascii_field i though the 'jar' was just a turd that loads from blockchain.info
15:00 ascii_field and he wanted standalone that uses actual bitcoin
15:11 nubbins` maybe so, didn't fully parse. guy does say later on that he can't figure out how to work the jar
15:11 nubbins` this is "cut up my chicken nuggets AND chew them for me" level
15:12 nubbins` christ, what a cesspool
15:12 ascii_field and didn't even notice he was given turds instead of nuggets
15:12 nubbins` noticed, but they were a familiar shape.
15:12 nubbins` got a relevant link, sec
15:12 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/580083380923940864 << You are blocked from following @freebsdgirl and viewing @freebsdgirl's Tweets. Learn more
15:12 assbot As a reminder, you'd have to hack into my Windows 8.1 desktop behind NAT to get my ssh key & use the right IP to access my AWS hosts.
15:13 ascii_field wai wat
15:13 ascii_field do i even want to know.
15:13 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKwL5G5HbGA
15:13 assbot Jamie Oliver Shows School Kids How Chicken Nuggets are made - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJ14Yj )
15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9939 @ 0.00026103 = 2.5944 BTC [-]
15:14 nubbins` tv;dw: kids are shown raw truth of chicken nuggets being made from scratch, right in front of them, "EWW GROSSS" etc, then all clamor over each other to eat the fried result
15:15 nubbins` and i mean like fistfuls of skin and fat blended w/ the meat, pushed through sieve, whole deal
15:15 ascii_field ;;google futurama slurm
15:15 gribble Slurm - Futurama Wiki, the Futurama database: <http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Slurm>; Fry and the Slurm Factory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry_and_the_Slurm_Factory>; Slurm Factory Tour - Video Clip | Comedy Central: <http://www.cc.com/video-clips/xqmqta/futurama-slurm-factory-tour>
15:15 nubbins` ha, precisely this
15:15 ascii_field 'umpa, dumpa, dupaty-didient, thou shalt not ask about the Secret Ingredient!'
15:16 thestringpuller ascii_field: you watch futurama?!?
15:16 ascii_field wait it still exists?
15:16 ascii_field did watch
15:16 thestringpuller watched*
15:16 ascii_field aha
15:16 ascii_field w4r3z
15:16 thestringpuller ascii_field: well they ended up not revealing the secret ingredient cause slurm is so delicious...
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00025613 = 2.0875 BTC [-]
15:18 nubbins` so we got a second cat back in november and i've been mildly worried that she's a bit aggressive towards our older cat
15:19 ascii_field castrate ?
15:19 nubbins` today, as i'm watching them eat supper, older cat tires of her food and just starts eating from younger cat's dish; younger cat retreats and waits for her turn :0
15:19 nubbins` both female, both fixed
15:20 ascii_field so older one won ?
15:22 nubbins` nod, effortless display of dominance
15:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00025275 = 1.3143 BTC [-] {2}
15:22 nubbins` !up ascii_field
15:24 nubbins` http://imgur.com/wQfDg4U
15:24 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJ2fXq )
15:25 nubbins` ^ sometimes stuff like this happens ;(
15:25 ascii_field thick cat is thick!
15:25 nubbins` that's dory, she's a fatso!
15:25 nubbins` shelter kitty
15:25 ascii_field i saw a most peculiar cat scene the other day
15:26 ascii_field gigantic semi-wild but castrated male cat, grooming - and then guarding - a smaller cat
15:28 nubbins` !
15:28 nubbins` the other cat occasionally grooms me, it's endearing
15:28 ascii_field but that was an odd scene
15:28 ascii_field solitary animal doing a 'social' thing
15:29 nubbins` i'd say
15:29 mats adorbs
15:29 nubbins` outdoor cat behaviour is fascinating
15:29 ascii_field the smaller one, i think, lives under my shed
15:30 nubbins` FUN
15:30 nubbins` protip: if you eat canned tuna, save the water
15:30 nubbins` unrelated, but came across this gem while looking for more cat photos: http://imgur.com/eUoHNko
15:30 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJ2F06 )
15:34 danielpbarron save it for what? a cat?
15:34 danielpbarron i just poured tuna water down the drain not 2 hours ago
15:35 nubbins` yeah, cats love tuna water
15:35 ascii_field i tried to feed'em once but they like the neighbours' more
15:35 ascii_field my street is a gigantic cat restaurant
15:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00024827 = 3.9351 BTC [-] {2}
15:35 nubbins` dish of it on the back step is a good way to attract em
15:35 ascii_field where the beasts can afford to be picky
15:35 nubbins` this is assuming that random cats are a thing you want to attract
15:35 ascii_field nubbins`: i like cats.
15:35 nubbins` me too!
15:36 ascii_field people find it puzzling but it is kinda the reason i don't try to tame them and keep them inside
15:36 nubbins` dory was at the shelter for longer than any of the other cats :/
15:36 ascii_field i imagine that i wouldn't want to be tamed if i were them
15:36 nubbins` pinki gets free access to outside and quite enjoys it, dory seems to show no interest in getting out
15:36 ascii_field nubbins`: ever consider a bigger cat?
15:36 ascii_field e.g. ocelot ?
15:36 danielpbarron there was a cat that used to roam around outside that i would let sleep inside on occasion; i think it mothered a litter and died
15:37 nubbins` tempting, maybe once there's no more shelter cats 8)
15:37 nubbins` danielpbarron dory mothered three kittens and was found with them, abandoned, in an empty apartment
15:38 nubbins` some people, i tell ya
15:39 cazalla nubbins`, that's ugly imo, we don't use @qntra.net for email, but more importantly i am not fussed on this idea of bidness cards, so best to ask the others for input
15:40 nubbins` nod, all text incl. email address is mere placeholder
15:40 danielpbarron i think gold on black is tacky
15:40 nubbins` i don't want to decide for 12 people what info they'll have on their cards
15:40 danielpbarron i like the key fingerprint thing
15:41 nubbins` personally i'd go with mid-grey ink
15:41 danielpbarron i like white cards
15:43 ascii_field wai wat
15:43 ascii_field cards?
15:43 nubbins` qntra business cards
15:43 danielpbarron maybe apply the "photocopy" filter to the rabbit image and use as logo
15:43 nubbins` unless you've got a version bigger than 30x30...
15:44 nubbins` but that's the other thing, no logo
15:44 nubbins` so you're left w/ just text
15:44 danielpbarron https://i.imgur.com/svMadu3.png
15:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJ3FBn )
15:45 cazalla i can't think of anything more obnoxious than someone giving you their business card, it's pretty much them saying, "here, you're obligated to put this either in your bidness card holder or the bin", perhaps i don't have the sophistication to appreciate bidness cards like ol' buffett (or whoever it is that collects em like baseball cards) but whatevs
15:46 danielpbarron you have it backwards
15:46 danielpbarron they are things you ask for
15:46 nubbins` cazalla that's because you're not a small business owner dealing with other small business owners
15:46 danielpbarron not force on
15:46 nubbins` 8)
15:46 danielpbarron i ask for business cards all the time
15:46 nubbins` "do you have a card?" "no" "....."
15:46 danielpbarron ^ ++
15:46 nubbins` "but you can look us up on facebook"
15:46 * danielpbarron nods
15:47 nubbins` anyway, a good next step would be for people who intend to receive these cards to put some thought into what info they'd like on them, as well as a general idea of how they'd prefer them to look
15:47 ascii_field i still like the pcb business cards idea - in the abstract
15:47 nubbins` ascii_field nod
15:48 cazalla as for ads, i've wanted to run them for a while, but credible advertisers are lacking
15:49 ascii_field nubbins`: http://imgur.com/DaZyTPg,MfVbeHG,0tCxX1m#0 << sketch i made for mircea_popescu once
15:49 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1FRM14z )
15:50 nubbins` right, i remember this
15:50 ascii_field suggested to have it baked on kapton
15:50 ascii_field and gold plated copper
15:50 ascii_field resistant to solvents, oils, and temp up to 400C
15:51 nubbins` yeah, you could sautee em
15:51 ascii_field but most of all, memorable
15:51 BingoBoingo <danielpbarron> i think gold on black is tacky << I loved nubbins` gold on black
15:51 ascii_field at least until idiots start making'em
15:51 nubbins` say, any PCB layouts from the cardano project approaching 3.5x2" in size?
15:52 ascii_field nubbins`: the current version of the mainboard, approx.
15:52 ascii_field why?
15:52 nubbins` BingoBoingo you'll find this is one of the great divides of people the world over: white background vs black
15:52 nubbins` white paper vs black. white shirts vs black.
15:52 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:52 nubbins` !up ascii_field
15:53 nubbins` ascii_field just pondering pcb cards w/ a bit more of a story behind em
15:53 nubbins` got any vector files or anything?
15:53 nubbins` am i allowed to ask for them yet? 8)
15:53 BingoBoingo <danielpbarron> maybe apply the "photocopy" filter to the rabbit image and use as logo << probably would work cleaner as lineart bunny
15:53 ascii_field nubbins`: generally it is -defunct- hardware that gets recycled into toys
15:54 nubbins` oh, i'm thinking silkscreening the design on paper
15:54 danielpbarron yeah idk what the best filter is, but the idea is it works well as a single color
15:54 nubbins` lay the traces in gold ink, flood a mask of semi-transparent green/red/blue/w/e on top
15:54 nubbins` white for markings/biz card info
15:55 nubbins` picture a sparkfun but with "stan" written on the bottom
15:55 ascii_field meh
15:55 * ascii_field not enamoured of toys which look like functional things but aren't
15:57 BingoBoingo !up nubbins`
15:57 nubbins` ty
15:58 nubbins` i play low-battery roulette
15:59 nubbins` *:ascii_field not enamoured of toys which look like functional things but aren't <<< there's a word for this, it escapes me
16:00 danielpbarron app
16:00 BingoBoingo le
16:00 nubbins` yes, you're getting there
16:00 BingoBoingo !b 4
16:00 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3F93JZN.txt )
16:00 nubbins` like how Notes looks like a notepad
16:01 BingoBoingo Damn, missed
16:01 BingoBoingo skeumorphism
16:01 nubbins` nah, was ok
16:01 nubbins` yeah, that's it.
16:01 ascii_field skeumorphism was text editors that look like parchment, waveform editors with drawn 'oscilloscope knobs', etc
16:02 nubbins` skeumorphophobe!
16:02 nubbins` technically a business card that looks like a pcb is not this, but w/e
16:02 ascii_field not at all
16:03 ascii_field skeumorph -does something- like what the thing it imitates did
16:03 nubbins` what i should've said was "there's a word for something else, it escapes me"
16:03 BingoBoingo www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html
16:03 nubbins` BingoBoingo either that was already pasted here, or something else strange is going on
16:04 BingoBoingo Ah
16:07 BingoBoingo !up wsbtc
16:09 cazalla nubbins`, posted yesterday, hilarious read
16:15 wsbtc Hi, I'm here to learn more about bitcoin and I understand that this is the place to do it. Where should I begin?
16:16 danielpbarron wsbtc, here's a good place to start -> http://www.contravex.com/2014/03/17/irc-yeshiva/
16:16 assbot IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1FRNQyh )
16:16 danielpbarron if you know how to GPG, you could get yourself in the WoT
16:16 wsbtc Thank you
16:18 mircea_popescu !v thomas
16:18 assbot Invalid verfication string.
16:18 ben_vulpes hyu
16:20 mircea_popescu yo yo
16:20 mircea_popescu Invitation@bitcoinfield.net4:06 pm 3.6 KiBBitcoinField - Invest Bitcoins and Receive Daily r...
16:20 mircea_popescu derp.
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16:21 kakobrekla !up thomas
16:21 mircea_popescu o.O check me out, !v lol
16:21 kakobrekla noob
16:21 mircea_popescu totally.
16:22 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i just realised, talking to punkman yest, that we've actually been here for well over three years.
16:22 mircea_popescu that's 78 twoweeks, yo!
16:23 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:23 kakobrekla myea. not much to brag about.
16:23 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065059 << at least one's honest, after losing or w/e.
16:23 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 13:19:22; assbot: Mars One Finalist Announces That It's All A Scam | IFLScience ... ( http://bit.ly/19KIucz )
16:24 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you think ? the things i've seen people brag about since then...
16:24 mircea_popescu "17 yo entrepreneur" of yesterday was bragging about "trading altcoins for four years".
16:24 * ascii_field was about to say 'everyone's honest after losing' but then remembered the tales of phorum sc4mz0rz who transition to shills, etc
16:24 nubbins` !up thomas
16:24 mircea_popescu think about that for a moment, solid coin hadn't been even invented yet.
16:24 nubbins` oh ha.
16:25 mircea_popescu ascii_field yeah, world's been revolutionized a coupla times and changed who even knows how often since those days.
16:25 nubbins` woodcollector
16:25 nubbins` etc
16:25 mircea_popescu After filling out an application (mostly out of curiosity), former NASA researcher Joseph Roche, now of Trinity College, became one of 100 finalists to live in permanent settlement on Mars. In his interview with Elmo Keep for Medium, Roche expressed many concerns, ranging from inaccurate media coverage (there were only 2,761 applicants, not 200,000) to Mars One’s psychological or psychometric testing (or lack thereof
16:25 mircea_popescu ) to how leading contenders earned their spot (he says they paid for it).
16:25 mircea_popescu ahaha
16:26 * ascii_field waits for the inevitable 'but of course anyone who would go in for this is so gullible god himself put him upon this earth to be fleeced, by us preferably' retort from the m4rssc4mz0r
16:27 mircea_popescu ascii_field in those venues where idiots congregate, this is heard, because it actually is +ev.
16:27 mircea_popescu here it doesn't wash, so they don't bother.
16:28 ascii_field oh wouldn't dream of seeing him appear -here-
16:28 mircea_popescu when you're a scammer you gotta be very careful with your time. keeping above water quite the challenge.
16:28 ascii_field this is basic 'spam like a pro in 21 days' material...
16:28 wsbtc The more I read that page, the more I realize I didn't know nearly as much about Bitcoin as I though I did.
16:29 wsbtc Gratitude.
16:29 mircea_popescu There are other bad signs for Mars One. The organization’s contract with production company Endemol is no longer in place; Mars One was hoping to generate $6 billion from a reality show.
16:29 mircea_popescu ahahaha 6bn!
16:29 mircea_popescu dude wtf... srsly, 6bn ? like, three derps got together and went, "hey, this IDEA is totally worth one hundred thousand new cars" ?
16:31 mircea_popescu cazalla just for the record, on my wishlist-of-things-way-far-out-of-reach, stuff which like hooft says, i'll be happy to get in a 100 years : i'd totally love it if qntra did what medium does, and is correct in doing : chase these social justice idiocies, get insiders to spill the beans.
16:31 mircea_popescu the projects will multiply, as time goes by, for the obvious economic reasons. the lulz will increase. lulz must be mined!
16:31 mircea_popescu And as far as the delays are concerned, he says, “is it really a failure if we land our first crew two, four, six, or even eight years late?”
16:32 mircea_popescu ^ check out the bfl/anon asic scammer verbiage.
16:32 mats bugs.archlinux.org/task/34580
16:32 mircea_popescu he could have run neobee.
16:32 mircea_popescu "brick and mortar mars mission"
16:32 mats http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34580
16:32 assbot FS#34580 : [rng-tools] Default configuration of rng-tools adds no real entropy to /dev/random ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hsiq01 )
16:33 mircea_popescu mats : "Comment by Massimiliano Torromeo (mtorromeo) - Friday, 05 April 2013, 12:07 GMT This package is not a dependency of any other package. It also needs to be explicitly installed AND started/enabled so after installation the system is not any less secure."
16:33 mircea_popescu logic.
16:35 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065063 << nah, seems much flatter a power struggle than that. they're just bickering over the remote.
16:35 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 13:32:08; nubbins`: (cough)
16:36 mircea_popescu but, the fact that chick can get him that worked up over nothing bodes well for teh twu wuv factor involved :D
16:36 mircea_popescu also, nubbins` STOP WHOTEKNIGTING
16:36 thestringpuller i wonder if one day effort to be scammer will outweight that of doing actual work
16:37 mircea_popescu yeah. that day is erryday.
16:37 nubbins` heh
16:37 thestringpuller i guess ppl jus stoopid and don't know scamming doesn't pay
16:37 nubbins` whoteknighting = showing people the mirror?
16:37 nubbins` 8)
16:37 nubbins` anyway, much flatter a power struggle, i like that
16:37 thestringpuller lol #b-a mcgruff ads
16:37 thestringpuller "Scamming Doesn't Pay Kids"
16:39 nubbins` "but i do"
16:39 punkman work doesn't pay much either for most folks
16:39 trinque mircea_popescu: there was plenty more a sober me decided not to put in the permanent record
16:40 trinque reduces to socialism is awesome because artists vs no, food is good
16:40 trinque completely stupid argument
16:40 mircea_popescu lol okay.
16:40 mircea_popescu your domain mlad.
16:40 mircea_popescu punkman is greek, he'd know.
16:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu> cazalla just for the record, on my wishlist-of-things-way-far-out-of-reach, stuff which like hooft says, i'll be happy to get in a 100 years : i'd totally love it if qntra did what medium does, and is correct in doing : chase these social justice idiocies, get insiders to spill the beans. << Medium is just some twitter founder's take on blogger. It only holds writing from the people who choose to blog there for fre
16:41 BingoBoingo e.
16:41 mircea_popescu trinque btw, the "artists of socialism" nonsense is just so much bunk, and thorouighly debunked.
16:41 trinque I got drunk and started giving a loud speech at a bar about how great markets are
16:41 mircea_popescu this was the soviet argument in the 20s. their "artistry" fizzled, and really, 10 years out of 70 ?
16:41 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i know that part, i'm not arguing roundly for its merits.
16:42 trinque and how "artists" live at the pleasure of people with wealth, and no other way
16:42 mircea_popescu o.O
16:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00025001 = 3.5626 BTC [+] {2}
16:42 nubbins` what are you o.Oing about
16:42 mircea_popescu so basically we could say "another copacetic union ruined by trilema" ?
16:42 trinque yeah just about
16:42 nubbins` you wrote an essay on this, i ...oh, heh
16:43 trinque I was an asshole before I read you, though
16:43 mircea_popescu the regulator of intensity.
16:43 trinque :D
16:43 mircea_popescu lol i need new fucking bylines.
16:43 mircea_popescu "Empowering assholes, since before very long ago."
16:43 nubbins` "making your thorax palpitate since 1978"
16:43 trinque look! the sky! it's the ass-signal!
16:43 mircea_popescu lol
16:43 trinque mp aways
16:44 mircea_popescu speaking of which, funny story. friend with small baby, intelligent woman, actual engineer, the works.
16:44 mircea_popescu so she is prepared, right ?
16:44 nubbins` not necessarily
16:44 mircea_popescu she knows, for instance, that one of the first things kids babblingly ask is why is the sky blue ?
16:44 mircea_popescu so she's got it ready to lay out.
16:44 ben_vulpes can one be?
16:44 nubbins` o sure
16:45 mircea_popescu kid asks "why sky ?"
16:45 trinque woah.gif
16:45 trinque reminds me of louis ck's "why" bit
16:45 mircea_popescu the only thing missing'd have been, kid frowning and in very bussins voice
16:46 mircea_popescu "you know you're not really that well prepared."
16:46 trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2ZsoYWwJA
16:46 assbot Louis C.K. "Why?" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsmvBz )
16:46 * trinque must find a power outlet, brb
16:46 mircea_popescu check it out, trinquette kicked undata out, now he's a bum
16:47 thestringpuller buddy of mine is a sticker bomber.
16:47 thestringpuller has a sticker that says, "Keeping public employees employed since 2009"
16:47 thestringpuller since he only puts them on government owned things
16:48 thestringpuller ;;seen undata
16:48 gribble undata was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: * undata clicks
16:48 nubbins` that's a "does", not an "is" :D
16:49 danielpbarron !up Bagels7
16:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, well... that's a good point. in honesty so is gawker, but anyway. the distinction between one model and the other blurs.
16:51 BingoBoingo Yeah
16:52 mircea_popescu in the words of the great jukov, "the fact that the americans won that battle by sheer accident doesn't mean we shouldn't win the same way deliberately"
16:52 mircea_popescu and if neobee/primeasic/whatever is bitcoin news, so is the exactly identially executed, designed and manned "mars project"
16:53 BingoBoingo I'll write it up
16:53 mircea_popescu nah i dun mean this one specifically.
16:53 mircea_popescu but the next one, if it ever happens.
16:54 mircea_popescu at any rate, i think by now we know more about scams than ny's da office, collectively.
16:55 thestringpuller !up ascii_field
16:55 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: aite, the Mars thing has been out for a while. I'll keep looking for the next one.
16:57 chetty if the da's knew anything about scams the entire rest of the gubermint would be in jail
16:57 mircea_popescu that also. but i just mean know, not necessarily act, to give them a chance.
17:01 mircea_popescu louis c k is givving the snotty brat way too much control over her environment.
17:01 mircea_popescu she's gonna grow up to believe socialism is best because artists.
17:01 ascii_field achtung, panzers:
17:01 ascii_field http://tomforb.es/dell-system-detect-rce-vulnerability
17:01 assbot Dell System Detect RCE vulnerability | Tom's corner of the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HsqSfZ )
17:02 ascii_field Run Moar Winblows (TM)
17:02 ascii_field 'While investigating this rather innocuous looking program I discovered that it accepts commands by listening for HTTP requests on localhost:8884 and that the security restrictions Dell put in place are easily bypassed, meaning an attacker could trigger the program to download and install any arbitrary executable from a remote location with no user interaction at all.'
17:02 mircea_popescu While investigating this rather innocuous looking program I discovered that it accepts commands by listening for HTTP requests on localhost:8884 and that the security restrictions Dell put in place are easily bypassed, meaning an attacker could trigger the program to download and install any arbitrary executable from a remote location with no user interaction at all.
17:02 mircea_popescu ahaha oops. sorry.
17:02 ascii_field ^ l0l
17:02 mircea_popescu anyway, sounds exactly like dell
17:03 thestringpuller is this why you use thinkpads?
17:03 mircea_popescu " So let's take a closer look at the program - it's a .NET 2.0 executable and can be completely decompiled with dotPeek into a set of Visual Studio solutions."
17:03 mircea_popescu F for effin'...
17:03 mircea_popescu thestringpuller nah, i write my own drivers. in vi.
17:04 punkman http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/263.pdf "Our attack allows an adversary controlling a sufficient number of IP addresses to monopolize all connections to and from a victim bitcoin node."
17:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xssO8A )
17:07 mircea_popescu yeah the node connections sorter is really high up on the list of fixes. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-01-2015#998341 etc
17:07 assbot Logged on 30-01-2015 06:45:26; mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> something tells me that block downloading and peer selection is an important thing to look at in the next few arbitrary time units. << that something is athena riding a flaming shield.
17:07 * ascii_field remembers about his unfinished 'hardwired peers' patch for 0.5.3
17:07 mircea_popescu ascii_field and the "introduce scoring for peers, shitlist least performing for x interval" idea from earlier, same thread.
17:07 ben_vulpes murder on my mind.
17:08 brendafdez re: Businesscards. I found a QR code with a BTC address, and now, also the GPG fingerprint, provide a good excuse to hand it out without sounding like you're forcing them. "Where do I send the btc?" --"Here!" (:
17:08 ascii_field i'll sum it up here. 1) sane node -always, without exception- connects to as many wot nodes as are up 2) then possibly connects to others from cache
17:08 ben_vulpes is redundant block downloading a horrible idea?
17:08 mircea_popescu no.
17:08 ben_vulpes perhaps to reduce bw waste, randomly ask for n-plicate copies of blocks from other nodes?
17:09 ben_vulpes "randomly"
17:09 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the only reasonable way to go about it is, pretend the other nodes are your employees. measure the txn bytes/minute you receive from them, give points.
17:09 mircea_popescu problem solves itself. whether they duplicate or not is a byproduct : competition, economical.
17:10 ascii_field mircea_popescu: measure the txn bytes/minute you receive from them << won't work for 0.5.3 as presently exists. bastard blocks -get transmitted- before rejected
17:10 * mircea_popescu waits patiently for the vc funded, world changing "start-up" predicated on having read the above lines in the log.
17:10 mircea_popescu ascii_field i was talking more in terms of how it's supposed to go. i'm aware the current pos is a pos.
17:10 ben_vulpes "this one neat trick to speed up blockchain sync time!"
17:11 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and also, on my personal wishlist : could block generation finally be fucking fixed ?
17:11 ben_vulpes what's wrong with it?
17:11 mircea_popescu i was nonplussed that i can't make blocksized txn in 2012, i still am nonplussed.
17:11 mircea_popescu if i want to make a txn that's 1mb, i do.
17:11 ben_vulpes oh hm.
17:11 ben_vulpes that's deeeeeeep in the transaction creation code iirc.
17:12 mircea_popescu it's a total fucking pain when stuff like, payout of the bfl bitbet happens
17:12 mircea_popescu or recently, berkshire.
17:12 mircea_popescu yes i know. that pile of dung has to be exorcised.
17:12 ascii_field fastest way for mircea_popescu to do this is, unfortunately but probably, to wait for my version.
17:12 mircea_popescu i been waitin' a long time honey!
17:12 ascii_field (or write himself. anyone's bet who wins)
17:12 mircea_popescu literally, 2012.
17:13 mircea_popescu (mp fondly remembers how he's one of the... one guy that hit the power rangers over the head until they finally put encryption into wallets. which, prior to mid 2012, were plaintext)
17:13 ascii_field (i like how it occurred to no one to ask why 1mb tx)
17:13 mircea_popescu (and i'm not entirely sure that encryption's worth jack shit, by the way, if someone feels like reading it)
17:13 ascii_field generic aes
17:14 mircea_popescu and what, can't be subtly fucked up ?
17:14 ascii_field sure it can
17:14 mircea_popescu besides, fucking aes.
17:14 ascii_field calls out to openssl even
17:14 ben_vulpes i don't see why not.
17:14 ben_vulpes i don't see why plaintext is so bad, i mean to say.
17:14 ben_vulpes but that's probably stockhol.
17:14 ben_vulpes stockholm.
17:14 mircea_popescu it's stockholm.
17:14 ben_vulpes encrypt wallet with gpg, move to safe location on disk, run without hot wallet.
17:14 ascii_field ben_vulpes does not keep 'wallet' around. he memorizes private key
17:15 ben_vulpes stop bitcoind, move wallet back in, restart, sync wallet txns periodically.
17:15 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes don't forget to encrypt your privkey ring with gpg too
17:15 ben_vulpes ya well duh.
17:15 mircea_popescu because they ALSO didnt see why it's so bad
17:15 ben_vulpes symmetric in my brain.
17:15 ben_vulpes its really the only sane model.
17:16 mircea_popescu look, you're spewing nonsense. think in simple terms : if wallet is encrypted by program using it, then it can be read by program using it, and kernel.
17:16 ascii_field no shit
17:16 mircea_popescu if wallet is encrypted in useralnd, then it's read by gpg
17:16 mircea_popescu and everyone else.
17:16 mircea_popescu including... the disk.
17:16 mircea_popescu and so on and so forth.
17:16 ascii_field incidentally (i wrote) a neat little proof of concept bin patch for bitcoind on winblows.
17:17 ben_vulpes i've always assumed that if someone got access to the machine while hot, the coins were gone regardless.
17:17 ascii_field the first outgoing tx sent by the luser after it goes to addr A
17:17 ascii_field (magic constant)
17:17 ascii_field notice how much good the wallet crypto does him.
17:17 ascii_field oh and sends whole wallet's weight of course
17:17 mircea_popescu ascii_field you know im not proposing quinine solves gout over here.
17:18 ascii_field aha
17:18 mircea_popescu and your "poc" that "sends whole wallet" is going to run into some fucking lulzy problems once it gets implemented,
17:18 mircea_popescu because no one knows what's in a wallet.
17:18 ascii_field mircea_popescu: think for a minute
17:18 ascii_field doesn't send the file
17:18 mircea_popescu but ?
17:18 ascii_field creates a legit tx using the luser's own client
17:19 mircea_popescu right
17:19 mircea_popescu that says wut ?
17:19 mircea_popescu whatever it may say, fuck you and a heap of error: {"code":-4,"message":"Transaction creation failed"}
17:19 ascii_field that has [sum of his unspent coin - 0.1 fee] value, and is to addr A (constant) instead of wherever he asked for
17:19 mircea_popescu if you imagine this "sum of unspent coin" symbol is defined...
17:20 brendafdez I always wondered why negative error codes...
17:20 mircea_popescu brendafdez correlates to iq.
17:20 brendafdez (:
17:20 ascii_field mircea_popescu: iterates, incr. fee, until no error
17:20 ascii_field can't promise that it works for everyone.
17:20 mircea_popescu np problem, well done.
17:20 mircea_popescu "hey everyone since i installed alfbitcoin my system has been doing 100% cpu"
17:21 ascii_field where's the np ?
17:21 mircea_popescu in the fucking wallet.
17:21 ascii_field theoretically a knapsack problem, yes
17:21 mircea_popescu anyway, there's a reason wallet theft consisted of stealing the (plaintext) wallet file
17:21 ascii_field but in practice quadratic.
17:21 mircea_popescu rather than this sort of stuff. it's about 100x easier, given the sad state of bitcoind
17:22 ascii_field mircea_popescu: and recipient does what?
17:22 ascii_field he is also stuck with the knapsack
17:22 mircea_popescu and people fail to think how important this is, because atm relatively few addresses (if you divide total btc to total addresses you get a .x ish average)
17:22 mircea_popescu but once the average per address is under 0.0001... just you see quadratics then
17:22 ascii_field then - yes
17:22 mircea_popescu ascii_field yes but can do it in his own time.
17:23 mircea_popescu with actual tools. etc.
17:23 ascii_field who the hell has wallet full of nanodust also
17:24 mircea_popescu EVERYONE
17:24 ben_vulpes everyone.
17:24 ben_vulpes well, most people.
17:24 mircea_popescu i would guess more bitcoin has been loist to nanodusting than to outright laptop-in-garbage dump incidents
17:24 ascii_field if so, it is on account of the idiocy where the client has no idea how to 'defragment'
17:24 ascii_field and is averse to sending to himself
17:24 mircea_popescu just, the owners still think they own the dust they can't actually send anywhere.
17:25 mircea_popescu ascii_field not only that. the txn making is dust-agnostic. instead of optimizing to not create too small chunks, it just does whatever.
17:25 mircea_popescu because "too hard".
17:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile the fucktards are busy "innovating" bullshit.
17:25 mircea_popescu the hard problems of bitcoin are still untouched since six yyears ago when satoshi saw them and ran screaming.
17:26 ascii_field the most frustrating part is that the correct solutions are so obvious.
17:26 mircea_popescu yeah, they are : go entertain cia over the weekend.
17:26 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:26 ascii_field l0l
17:26 ascii_field i mean to say, they are actually obvious to anyone who stayed awake in junior 'algorithms'
17:27 mircea_popescu nobody went to school.
17:27 mircea_popescu they're all fucking experts.
17:27 * ascii_field went to school
17:27 ascii_field and nubbins` iirc
17:27 ascii_field and a few others
17:27 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> ascii_field not only that. the txn making is dust-agnostic. instead of optimizing to not create too small chunks, it just does whatever. << aggressively whatever. semi random selection of outputs, iirc.
17:27 mircea_popescu right.
17:27 ascii_field i get it, it was written by monkeys
17:27 mircea_popescu (honestly i've not really looked what they've been doing with it since 7ish)
17:27 ascii_field mircea_popescu did not miss much
17:28 ascii_field ben_vulpes has an exhaustive catalogue
17:28 mircea_popescu ascii_field anyway, if you're curious, do a braid on a bitcoin then see what happens.
17:28 ascii_field braid ?
17:28 ben_vulpes hardly exhaustive.
17:28 mircea_popescu (split it to three addresses, then feed one by two for a while)
17:29 mircea_popescu then see what you can spend and what you can't.
17:29 mircea_popescu this is the golden standard for testing txn generators.
17:29 mircea_popescu or, closer to what you want, "then send it all to one address". see with own eyes.
17:29 ascii_field i have this working for a [censored application] but it uses machine (outside of bitcoind) generated tx
17:29 mircea_popescu yeah well, WHY IS THAT
17:30 ascii_field and raw key material
17:30 mircea_popescu alf trying to scam me in argument! "oh, bitcoind works. i think so because i don't use it because it doesn't"
17:30 ascii_field l0l
17:30 * ascii_field believes when mircea_popescu says that it -will- explode if used as printed on the crate
17:31 BingoBoingo Well, sometimes it does
17:31 mircea_popescu hence why we're terrorists.
17:31 ascii_field likewise most of the folks here have read enough of it to see how this might be
17:31 BingoBoingo Bitcoind (and a number of the other 'wallets') grind balances to dust over time.
17:32 ascii_field don't forget that this was -deliberate-
17:32 mircea_popescu maybe.
17:32 ascii_field phoundation justified it with 'bbbut an0nym1ty1111!!111'
17:32 mircea_popescu this is way before vessenes was invented.
17:33 ascii_field 'wouldn't want to link the coins you got from bin laden to the ones you got from george bush, when you go spend'em'
17:33 mircea_popescu you for some reason seem to think scam foundation and bitcoin are cogenerational. this is about as true as saying you and your mom were born the same week
17:33 ascii_field mircea_popescu: i formed this impression because i do not know the actual truth of the extent of collaboration between gavin et al and satoshi pre-phoundation
17:34 ascii_field having contradictory data, assumed the worst.
17:34 mircea_popescu fake foundation's just a pressed shitbullet, they made it, getting rid of it won't get rid of the problem.
17:34 mircea_popescu it's exactly like "Bitcoin magazine", meanwhile buried.
17:35 ascii_field i saw it as more of a snakeskin
17:35 mircea_popescu once they didn't get away with simply stealing that, they made coindesk.
17:35 ascii_field shed as many times as snake likes
17:35 mircea_popescu which will be buried too, but... still. you don't kill ticks by breaking the bellies.
17:36 mircea_popescu anyway, gavin showed up pretty quick o nthe original lists. to no one's suprirse, nsa does read the stuff, as amply documented.
17:36 ascii_field so then.
17:37 mircea_popescu foundation not directly related to this.
17:37 * ascii_field saw phoundation and gavinatronics as mostly synonymous
17:37 ben_vulpes he's a useful front, as i see it.
17:38 mircea_popescu well perhaps the discussion of which lice spawned what scorpion is not directly interesting to engineers, being more in the vein of politics and law. so i guess you actually have a fine aproximation.
17:39 * ascii_field actually does find it interesting, and if mircea_popescu ever writes a detailed likbez, will enjoy reading
17:39 mircea_popescu but no, the two got merged late. originally, foundation was transparent scam to syphon and repurpose bitcoins to prop up "vc entreprises".
17:40 mircea_popescu once got called out on that, shed some bits (coinlab, anyone recall that ?) and moved to "worthy goals" (stioll not releasing any reports, because vessenes, like all clueless idiots involved, thinks taint is a thing, and also thinks i don't know his addresses, because whatever, he's magically protected by nulandine)
17:40 mircea_popescu except no worthy goals were willing to work with them, and so moved to "default worthy goal" = pay gavin a salary.
17:40 mircea_popescu which was getting paid anyway. but better cover now.
17:41 mircea_popescu which pretty much brings us to 2014, when the thing became too expensive to be useful, so it had to run out of usg jurisdiction (went to uk)
17:41 mircea_popescu pretending now that hey, "they are publishing reports". of the new entity.
17:41 mircea_popescu because whatever, i'm going to hang them anyway, and usg isn't going to hang them no matter what, so that leaves a space in the middle.
17:42 mircea_popescu which pretty much brings us to date.
17:43 mircea_popescu (and by "too expensive to be useful" i don't mean anything but, for every btc in gains it makes us, it gives that terrorist we shall not name 10 to 100 btc worth of ammo)
17:44 * mircea_popescu waves @ Patrick Merck, who realised all this shit too late and ran off through the wall.
17:46 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/political-donor-in-schweich-suicide-controversy-revises-statement/article_793bf835-d709-5be8-9124-4dd481567809.html
17:46 assbot Political donor in Schweich suicide controversy revises statement : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1N86jHy )
17:46 mircea_popescu o.O
17:47 BingoBoingo "called a Jew" scapegoat isn't as sticky nao
17:47 mats is Merck still general counsel for TBP?
17:48 ascii_field https://www.google.com/doodles/emmy-noethers-133rd-birthday << l0l that google remembered this actually interesting figure and not some wanker
17:48 assbot Emmy Noether's 133rd Birthday ... ( http://bit.ly/1N86Fhd )
17:48 thestringpuller ascii_field: has a crush
17:48 mircea_popescu mats like beauty : yes, until you ask.
17:49 mircea_popescu thestringpuller if you want to talk "women in tech" it really starts with noether.
17:49 ascii_field mircea_popescu: not with lovelace ?
17:50 mircea_popescu maybe.
17:50 ascii_field it doesn't get any hotter than lovelace, imho
17:51 BingoBoingo !up thomas
17:51 mircea_popescu noether was born in 82, yo!
17:51 mircea_popescu lovelace is this 70s bs.
17:51 ascii_field this is the nice thing re: dead folks
17:51 ascii_field they can be $age in your head
17:52 mircea_popescu anywya, i have deepthroat right here, it's... ungreat.
17:53 ascii_field i often wonder where the 'kabuki' of modern western porn came from
17:53 mircea_popescu not there.
17:53 ascii_field meaning, roughly speaking, the set of conventions re: what the heroes look like, what they do, etc.
17:53 mircea_popescu originally, it was actually max hardcore i think. after that, it was mostly bangbros.
17:53 ascii_field (because, i will confess, i never really went in for it)
17:54 mircea_popescu before that, it was randoim shit.
17:54 mircea_popescu (if you read teh trilematograph heading you prolly know i've been working on a very similar question)
17:56 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065075 << check it out, kitty spit out a furball!
17:56 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 13:45:09; nubbins`: (given that free advice can only cost $0, the set of possible costs for said free advice is a zero ring, which precludes the set from being a field, which means that division by zero is not required to be undefined, which means that your assertion that it's infinitely more valuable is, at least superficially, true)
17:56 mircea_popescu dun worry sir whiteknight, b-a brings the best out in everyone.
17:56 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:56 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
17:56 mircea_popescu too late alfie.
17:56 ascii_field l0l
17:57 mircea_popescu btw, want me to tell you a romanian joke ?
17:57 ascii_field aha
17:57 mircea_popescu guy walking through street at night. suddenly, jumped by some burly dudes.
17:57 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: too late alfie. << ahahhhahaha. The nickname is sticking!
17:58 mircea_popescu they struggle a little, he's taken to the ground, at which point the leader of the pack goes
17:58 mircea_popescu listen dude, you're getting fucked whbether you want to or not. it's a fact. the only questrion to you is, if you want to do it with alifie or without.
17:58 mircea_popescu so the guy eventually decides to go with.
17:58 mircea_popescu at which the leader goes "Yo! Alifie! come over we got one."
17:59 mircea_popescu (alifie, in romanian, is maz')
18:00 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065889 fyi, electrum does not and has opposite problem - you must freeze addresses to prevent it always spending everything
18:00 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 21:31:49; BingoBoingo: Bitcoind (and a number of the other 'wallets') grind balances to dust over time.
18:00 jurov at least 1.9, dunno about 2.0
18:00 mircea_popescu yeah different but not necessarily better
18:01 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065093 << they are.
18:01 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 14:21:16; bitstein: Is there a reason WoT ratings are not required to be GPG signed?
18:01 mircea_popescu !up bitstein
18:02 jurov does assbot store the !v verification string?
18:02 jurov imo that was what was meant
18:02 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065099 << this is not how assbot works, tho.
18:02 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 14:22:40; Adlai: and trusting that people don't leave authenticated irc accounts idle accessible to random passersby
18:02 mircea_popescu jurov so the question was more "why does assbot not implement the drawbacks to privacy of a strong crypto verification scheme" ?
18:03 mircea_popescu phrased like that it's obvious.
18:03 jurov what? everyone being able to check rating entries independently of assbot would do that?
18:03 mircea_popescu well, you're stuck publishing all this signed material in that model.
18:03 mircea_popescu not like people can't do that if they wish, via deedbot.
18:04 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065100 << assbot model is much improved over gribble model. there's no more sessions, so you're mostly battling with a solved problem there.
18:04 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 14:22:44; bitstein: That just allows the server to know it is talking to who it thinks it is talking to, but it doesn't guarantee the server hasn't fabricated data.
18:04 ascii_field tale is variant of 'death by bunga-bunga'
18:04 mircea_popescu it is.
18:05 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065107 << no dood, the situation's exactly reversed here. assbot fixed some problems, it's up to nanotube to support it in gribble, which he said he was going to eventually do.
18:05 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 14:25:35; thestringpuller: its up to kako if he wants to support it with asswot
18:07 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065126 << you got it soviet!
18:07 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 14:45:54; funkenstein_: that's right "the gold market" is a single entity which works towards being "less manipulated".
18:07 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
18:07 indiancandy1 hiya
18:07 mircea_popescu how goes
18:08 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065154 << consensus is undesirable. but actually, as implemented, assbot does work perfectly for the purpose(s).
18:08 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 15:07:09; Adlai: this is a good point... even if each wot rating is signed, this can be a false friend - what if you're not looking at the latest version of the ratings? if only we had some way of achieving trust-minimized consensus...
18:10 mircea_popescu ahahaha who the fuck came up with this shit. seriously, photoshop "Refuses to open" somethng ?
18:11 mircea_popescu and the user's reaction is anything but getting a 28 inch dropforged wrench and beating it into a pulp. without grease. ?
18:12 danielpbarron "i don't want to learn a new thing"
18:13 mircea_popescu i suppose i might be the only techno-enabled sociopath that disassembled misbehaving hardware/software and let them do X for a while, by themselves, in the dark.
18:14 mircea_popescu like this lazy cd rom that wouldn't spin properly which ended up plucked out, connected straight to power and let spin until it ground itself off.
18:14 mircea_popescu god fucking help any piece of machinery that "just says no"
18:15 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065185 << in sovietlandia one had to "Register" his typewriter, after all.
18:15 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 15:18:04; asciilifeform: 'for your own good' of course
18:15 bitstein mircea_popescu: assbot model is much improved over gribble model. there's no more sessions, so you're mostly battling with a solved problem there. << doing an auth for each request is definitely an improvement, but can you elaborate on how that solves the problem?
18:15 mircea_popescu well lets start by you stating the problem ?
18:16 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065198 << it uses meta-yellow ink. you dunno how world works.
18:16 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 15:28:39; nubbins`: (how? because the yellow tank contains black ink!)
18:18 mircea_popescu lol at the fluffypony businessoutsider link. EXCITING! may become the new AMAZING, as a new generation of idiots moves into bitcoin scam pushing.
18:18 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:18 mircea_popescu these are artists.
18:19 fluffypony it's this new trend
18:19 fluffypony of going "BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGY IS IMPORTANT, BUT BITCOIN IS NOT"
18:19 fluffypony and if you shout it loudly enough and often enough it must be true, amiright?
18:19 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065236 << once they couldn't find anything but the same social studies rejects to "write"
18:19 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 16:05:03; thestringpuller: when did businessinsider become gawker?
18:20 mircea_popescu fluffypony im sure it's so totally going to work like all the previous attempts did, which is why we're here.
18:20 bitstein mircea_popescu: I am under the impression that if they wanted to, kako or nano could publish ratings under any name as they please. Is this correct? If so, how can someone viewing the WoT db have certainty that information they see is as the rater intended? GPG signing would be one solution.
18:21 mircea_popescu bitstein this is true for both of them, currently. this happens to also not be a problem because a) they could do this once ; and b) the way you're supposed to use this tool is by asking the raters about their ratings.
18:21 mircea_popescu as pere the entire "wot is not an oilfield with trust as oil".
18:21 jurov !rate bitstein -10 fake rating
18:21 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fe66fb89030ffb97
18:21 mircea_popescu note that changing this model for "maintain signed ratings" does not help : either of them could show OLD rather than current ratings, which would still be undetectable.
18:23 bitstein mircea_popescu: b is an important point, thanks. As for old rather than current ratings, that's where shasums and deedbot could come in to help.
18:23 mircea_popescu how ?
18:23 jurov bitstein, looks like you want to reinvent the blockchain or sidechain
18:24 mircea_popescu on the other side of the fence there is this (i suspect irrational) notion that pumping out signed material weakens the signer key.
18:27 bitstein mircea_popescu: you would have the hash of the db timestamped, so you can verify that the rating is current as of a certain point (given you have the data to recreate the hash)
18:27 mircea_popescu how would you know when the rating's supposed to be ?
18:27 mircea_popescu i have ratings i made 2 years ago.
18:28 indiancandy1 soo
18:28 indiancandy1 wat u doin
18:29 mircea_popescu talkin to guys. you ?
18:29 mircea_popescu bitstein take otc-wot rating #14167 on pirateat40, made 2012-08-29 03:14:41. how do you know this is current ?
18:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14995 @ 0.00025247 = 3.7858 BTC [+]
18:31 bitstein mircea_popescu: Right, it wouldn't prevent the server from not publishing a rating
18:31 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065261 << omaigawds stop your fud, everyone knows the turing machine only had 1 and 0. 2256 should be plenty for everyone.
18:31 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 16:29:55; Adlai: still a little silly for the platform bandied about as turing-complete to lack actual bignums
18:32 mircea_popescu bitstein inasmuch as you want a central repository, you're stuck with a central repository. if you look into the design papers / discussions around gossipd, this is also a well solved problem, just,
18:32 mircea_popescu takes a while to implement, because
18:32 mircea_popescu ;;seen artifexd
18:32 gribble artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 16 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <artifexd> Oh, actually that is complaining about one of the golang tools. And it would be dangerous if you had a MITM that could swap out code inflight and were importing external code directly.
18:32 mircea_popescu hm, he had a link with the fixing the lightbulb thing. anyway.
18:33 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065266 << it is iirc.
18:33 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 16:34:10; *: Adlai is fairly certain that phuctor is written in cl
18:33 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065270 << there is the !t command. but i think the idea is, if you see it happen you hafta say.
18:33 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 16:55:12; PeterL: https://bitbet.us/bet/1127/qntra-to-the-moon/ uses assbot at a resolution source, does assbot keep historical price records?
18:34 artifexd The implementation isn't that hard. It is the education that is time consuming.
18:35 mircea_popescu implementation without education bears monsters.
18:35 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065298 << yeah that's kinda what keeps these in line.
18:35 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 17:30:36; PeterL: what I mean is there is such a small amount bet on the bet, you might spend more than you would win holding the price up. Spend tens of btc to win .003 btc?
18:36 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065314 << the basic idea, idiot hostile hardware, is a brilliant idea.
18:36 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 17:54:27; ascii_field: the basic idea - owner-hostile hardware - is gaining ground.
18:36 mircea_popescu this notion that "any people is a people" and computer should be nice to everyone that touches it is nonsense.
18:37 mircea_popescu computer is a woman. it's the woman's job to make loser's life insufferable.
18:37 bitstein mircea_popescu: Thanks. I'll continue reading/thinking about it.
18:37 mircea_popescu sole purpose the world even exists.
18:37 mircea_popescu bitstein what are you trying to do incidentally ?
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11215 @ 0.00025068 = 2.8114 BTC [-] {2}
18:41 bitstein mircea_popescu: I've just been playing with gpg authentication in flask, and I'm trying to better understand how the WoT (in its current implementation) mitigates various risks.
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17577 @ 0.00024634 = 4.3299 BTC [-] {2}
18:42 mircea_popescu aha. worthy goal.
18:42 nubbins` ^
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10435 @ 0.00024818 = 2.5898 BTC [+]
18:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform re the entire "cinavia" stuff, it seems to me trivial to bypass.
18:53 mircea_popescu then again, i have actually never used a "music cd player", and i don't imagine i ever will.
18:55 mircea_popescu the entire "the watermark is able to survive recording through microphones" is utter bull, so it defeats analog copy. you can trivially remasterize a soundtrack, and if you know what to look for you just nuke it and nobody will even know.
18:55 brendafdez "Even if distribution as a means of payment continues to increase, the system's advantage – decentralization – is also its biggest drawback. Unlike legal tender, there is no authority that guarantees the value of the currency, and bitcoin does not benefit from the resulting confidence. In the end, this confidence is crucial for any currency whose usage extends beyond the exchange of goods." https://www.credit-suisse.com/ch/en/ne
18:55 assbot Document not found - Credit Suisse ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjkfN9 )
18:55 brendafdez ws-and-expertise/news/banking.article.html/article/pwp/news-and-expertise/2015/03/en/bitcoins-money-without-physical-form.html
18:55 brendafdez https://www.credit-suisse.com/ch/en/news-and-expertise/news/banking.article.html/article/pwp/news-and-expertise/2015/03/en/bitcoins-money-without-physical-form.html
18:55 assbot Bitcoins – Money Without Physical Form  - Banking - Credit Suisse ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjkhEH )
18:55 mircea_popescu meanwhile the costs for this pointless idiocy is, that somehow a "commercial" product became MANDATORY.
18:55 mircea_popescu this is not worth the foregoing even if it worked.
18:55 mircea_popescu brendafdez yeah, they'd know.
18:56 mircea_popescu i'm personally waiting for the credit suisse article about the loss of confidence in swiss banks as a result of them selling out their customers to usg & friends.
18:56 mircea_popescu somehow they're not as emphatically knowledgeable on that topic. good that they know how to posture about "confidence" re bitcoin instead.
18:57 mircea_popescu ima go read this article right before i go interview some lepers about best hygiene and diet practices.
18:57 brendafdez the future holds much lols ahead
18:58 mircea_popescu "On 5 June 2009, the licensing agreements for AACS were finalized, which were updated to make Cinavia detection on commercial Blu-ray Disc players a requirement. On 3 July 2009, Maxim Anisiutkin published an open source DVD Audio watermark detector and neutralizer computer program to the SourceForge web site. The software package contains a detailed description of the method and embedding parameters used in creating th
18:58 mircea_popescu e DVD Audio or SDMI (Secure Digital Music Initiative) watermark, which was created by Verance Inc and was the earlier version of the Cinavia watermarking technology."
18:58 mircea_popescu heh nm me.
19:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` : one face : name, nickname, key. other face : qntra verbiage.
19:01 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065371 << different height different distance different usable cargoload.
19:01 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 18:11:57; PeterL: wright brothers were working in their garage
19:02 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065377 << well, at least it's one that admits to it. new york times is a publicly traded non profit.
19:02 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 18:12:56; funkenstein_: it's a publicly traded non profit ?
19:04 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065420 << he's not a cunt, he's a typical usg bureaucrat.
19:04 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 18:54:36; nubbins`: "Things we dont need: " <followed by several actual solutions
19:04 mircea_popescu if you spend any time talking to us congressmen and senators, various czars of agencies large or small, etc etc, this is EXACTLY the sort of thing that ends up coallescing.
19:05 mircea_popescu there was a video with a poor chinese guy trying to explain to a roomfull of idiots that you can't make square circles or something.
19:06 mircea_popescu "freebsdgirl" loller.
19:06 mircea_popescu !up ascii_modem
19:07 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065450 << you can train children to do anything. for some reason usians chose to train them to eat that sutff.
19:07 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 19:14:34; nubbins`: tv;dw: kids are shown raw truth of chicken nuggets being made from scratch, right in front of them, "EWW GROSSS" etc, then all clamor over each other to eat the fried result
19:07 nubbins` NUGGETS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT GETS HER TO STOP CRYING
19:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00024644 = 4.8056 BTC [-] {3}
19:07 ascii_modem somehow a "commercial" product became MANDATORY. << ample precedent, e.g., 'macrovision'
19:07 mircea_popescu that and beatings.
19:08 mircea_popescu ascii_modem how is it commercial then ?
19:08 mircea_popescu it's cohercial product.
19:08 nubbins` mircea_popescu these business cards will be a headless chicken unless either (a) someone decides on basics like paper/ink color or (b) you give me free reign and accept that some/all recipients will be sad pandas
19:08 ascii_modem and cleaning watermarks up without introducing palpable noise is harder than it looks
19:08 mircea_popescu nubbins` atm im waiting a little to give teh interested parties chance to take over the process.
19:08 mircea_popescu after which we see.
19:08 mircea_popescu ascii_modem why ?
19:08 nubbins` np, understood
19:09 mircea_popescu identify the mark spots, revert half.
19:09 ascii_modem no spots
19:09 mircea_popescu orly.
19:09 mircea_popescu ftr, it seems a 13% decrease in pitch defeats it
19:09 mircea_popescu and actually a bevy of other such measures.
19:09 ascii_modem waveform composited onto signal
19:09 mircea_popescu ascii_modem think about it,it ?HAS to be sampled. of course spots.
19:10 ascii_modem 13 pitch - lol now sounds like broken tape
19:10 * BingoBoingo liked the Black and Gold, just thinks the text needs a tweak.
19:10 ascii_modem no spots unless retarded engineer
19:10 mircea_popescu right.
19:10 ascii_modem affects -whole- signal
19:10 ascii_modem additive wave
19:10 mircea_popescu i am willing to stake money on the lemma that "no method of publicly accessible encoding into audio signal can be made that can not also be reversed".
19:11 mircea_popescu this isn't g p fuckin' g over here.
19:11 ascii_modem exists for graphics- stirmark contest
19:11 jurov wow mircea can revert wav-> mp3 ?
19:11 ascii_modem so far stirmark wins always
19:11 mircea_popescu eh no fuckin way.
19:11 ascii_modem but audio has a good bit of slack bs video
19:11 ascii_modem vs
19:12 mircea_popescu ascii_modem so you're telling me there's f(data, pic.png) - > pic1.png so that a) i can read f and b) i can't didle pic1.png into pic2.png so you can't read data ?
19:12 ascii_modem (stirmark is open src app for zapping graphical watermarks)
19:12 ascii_modem always can
19:12 mircea_popescu exactly.
19:12 ascii_modem make it all black
19:12 mircea_popescu sound no different.
19:12 mircea_popescu nonono
19:12 mircea_popescu they stay pic.png
19:13 mircea_popescu jurov sure ?
19:13 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
19:13 jurov mircea_popescu: if i encode wav-> mp3 and place barely audible artifacts just so
19:13 jurov how do you revert?
19:13 ascii_modem the correct solution always removes. recall radio jammer thread.
19:13 indiancandy1 hiyaback biatches
19:13 jurov you can jam but not revert
19:13 mircea_popescu jurov ffmpeg jurov.mp3 jurov.wav
19:13 jurov lmaoooo
19:14 mircea_popescu yes!
19:14 ascii_modem but you don't always -have- the decoder
19:14 mircea_popescu ascii_modem but here yo udo.
19:14 jurov the decoder will either reover the artifacts as intended
19:14 ascii_modem unless enemy foolishly gave it to you
19:14 jurov or introduce other ones
19:14 mircea_popescu pfff.
19:14 mircea_popescu ascii_modem consumer fucking products. the decoder is open.
19:14 indiancandy1 whose got instagram
19:14 ascii_modem here you do. just need electron microskop
19:15 mircea_popescu not what we were discussing tho.
19:15 ascii_modem if you have it in software, there is no real puzzle
19:15 mircea_popescu argument to fucking ignorance, all this. "here's the fence that i made. it doesn't work, but if everyone made fences and we all agreed not to jump them then nobody could tell the difference"
19:15 mircea_popescu yeah dude, totally. sounds like a plan
19:15 mircea_popescu a plan to make a lot of mongol babies.
19:15 ascii_modem aha drm folk
19:16 brendafdez dont defeat the defeatable fence or else...
19:16 mircea_popescu and this brings us to the actual point i was making :
19:16 mircea_popescu it RUINS people, this. their minds, it rots.
19:16 nubbins` re: wav->mp3->wav
19:16 mircea_popescu living in this circumstance is very very bad because it makes one stupid.
19:16 mircea_popescu once your "commerical products" are "mandatory" it's not just music you broke. you broke economy.
19:16 nubbins` please tell me that you're not implying you can reconstruct lost information discarded by a codec
19:16 funkenstein_ You can’t never go wrong cuttin’ fence.…Always cut fence. -- seldom seen smith
19:17 mircea_popescu now your kids won't be able to compete with their kids, because your kids are stupid.
19:17 nubbins` is this like CSI security cam footage?
19:17 ascii_modem incidentally it is worth remembering how it works
19:17 nubbins` *clickity clack* "enhance"
19:17 mircea_popescu and then you spend more to educate them, and the more you spend the stupider they get.
19:17 ascii_modem idiot hollywood types -demand- drm snakeoil
19:17 mircea_popescu and so you lost at life, all through this inept bullshit of "if we pretend it works anyway it'll really work!!1"
19:17 mircea_popescu ascii_modem who asked them anything /
19:17 jurov mircea your premise is good but arguments flawed
19:17 indiancandy1 u lot are deep
19:17 ascii_modem charlatans materialize always, to give it to them
19:17 indiancandy1 always ignore me
19:17 indiancandy1 deeep
19:17 mircea_popescu this is the almighty, societal-saving importance of "fhut the suck up, nobody asked you anything"
19:18 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 well we don't use instagram!
19:18 ascii_modem except hollywood and 'intellectual property' racket in general is core usg
19:18 mircea_popescu it can be the core of its own mother for all the difference it makes.
19:18 brendafdez indiancandy1 i'm not deep, just like pretending sometimes. those who are see right thru :3
19:19 mircea_popescu "sorry to tell you sir, you have cancer" "you know who i am ? i am the usg czar for rounded corners" "oh, in that case...umm... it's a skin condition. put some aloe on it."
19:19 ascii_modem whip the sea
19:19 ascii_modem but also the soldiers
19:19 indiancandy1 yes i figured
19:19 indiancandy1 u are a big softy
19:19 indiancandy1 mp
19:20 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 ever seen my penis btw ?
19:20 ascii_modem it was posted
19:20 brendafdez indiancandy1 thats a compliment? bi softy
19:20 nubbins` heh
19:20 mircea_popescu jurov im not so sure. then again im clueless enough about this stuff...
19:20 mircea_popescu mine's perforce a very theoretical perspective.
19:20 ascii_modem brb buying compressor hose (srsly)
19:21 mircea_popescu don't insert in anuses!
19:21 nubbins` srsly!
19:21 nubbins` dat embolism
19:21 jurov youre talking about "reverting" when you mean jamming the watermark
19:21 indiancandy1 no
19:21 indiancandy1 mp u wana send me a pic
19:21 indiancandy1 LOOOL
19:21 indiancandy1 brenda is in the buidling
19:21 indiancandy1 hey brenda babe
19:22 brendafdez indiancandy1 hey :)
19:22 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/
19:22 assbot NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjqNvi )
19:22 jurov sup indiancandy1
19:22 mircea_popescu jurov myeah.
19:22 mircea_popescu nubbins` exploded cavitous organs != embolism yo.
19:23 indiancandy1 is that a dildo
19:23 indiancandy1 wtf is that
19:23 mircea_popescu ha!
19:23 indiancandy1 dnt tell meu fuck ur bitches with that
19:24 mircea_popescu when one gets camho's going "Wtf is that"...
19:24 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 it's why anal sex is best sex. unlike vagina, ass just keeps going.
19:24 brendafdez mircea_popescu you did post pictures of an actual penis in some other trilema article, if I remember right...
19:25 indiancandy1 u give anal
19:25 indiancandy1 or take it up thre bum
19:25 mircea_popescu don't normal-opress my cock yo!
19:25 mircea_popescu also, people, tuna is to be canned in oil not fucking water wtf is this.
19:26 punkman watery tuna is for noobs
19:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00024595 = 2.0045 BTC [-]
19:26 mircea_popescu real transylvanians have their tuna canned in hard cream!
19:27 indiancandy1 ni
19:27 indiancandy1 no btw
19:27 indiancandy1 tuna is canned in
19:27 indiancandy1 oil or brine or water
19:27 punkman http://www.interaltus.ee/img/284153615.JPG
19:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cjs0mg )
19:27 brendafdez mircea_popescu here http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-am-not-a-white-nationalist/
19:27 assbot "Why I am not a white nationalist" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cjs3yp )
19:27 punkman has to be olive
19:27 mircea_popescu ahaha flattering, but it's only a model.
19:28 mircea_popescu shit that was a long article. almost as long as the dong.
19:29 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065536
19:29 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 19:46:26; nubbins`: "do you have a card?" "no" "....."
19:29 mircea_popescu ayup.
19:30 nubbins` have had happen, it's embarassing.
19:30 mircea_popescu mp often turns and goes "give him a card" like he's teh baws of it all.
19:31 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065551 << thing is, i'm not so invested in being remembered by my card.
19:31 assbot Logged on 23-03-2015 19:51:37; ascii_field: but most of all, memorable
19:32 nubbins` name's more memorable
19:32 nubbins` every nose that's wrinkled in disgust at our business name is a nose that'll remember it
19:32 mircea_popescu "i always remember not to order from these weirdos"
19:33 mircea_popescu "you said you want an escort ?" "yes. but not pink lips studios! I HAVE TRIGGERS"
19:33 nubbins` heh
19:33 nubbins` should be a fun summer for us this year
19:33 nubbins` big competition is changing hands
19:33 mircea_popescu (for a while highschool convention on "who's going" was... wearing pink lipstick. then tattoos got started.)
19:35 mircea_popescu i sort-of wonder what kids do today
19:35 mircea_popescu prolly an app huh.
19:35 nubbins` yeah
19:35 nubbins` sextogram or something
19:36 mircea_popescu seems reasonable. "if can't find her naked pics anywhere, no point bothering with her"
19:36 nubbins` the fact that the competition is changing hands, incidentally, is made slightly more interesting by the fact that pascale is precisely half of the employee list of the competition
19:36 nubbins` 8)
19:36 mircea_popescu "big" === "two employees" ?
19:36 nubbins` 3-4
19:37 mircea_popescu you're just a bunch of weird bored middle class dudes in a cul de sac somewhere pretending to be printing in between wife swappings aren;t you.
19:37 nubbins` heh.
19:37 nubbins` send me $100 and a mailing address
19:37 mircea_popescu lol
19:37 mircea_popescu sort-of like dallas and stuff of the era. "now you're married to her and running this company. ok, now she moves on to him, and the company to him, etc"
19:38 mircea_popescu what was it, the seinfeld contemporaneous thing
19:38 mircea_popescu melrose place.
19:40 nubbins` all play and no work makes a tv drama
19:40 nubbins` anyway, even two printers can pump out a massive volume of shirts
19:40 indiancandy1 gosh
19:41 nubbins` "big competition" total incoming/outgoing maybe 900btc/year
19:41 mircea_popescu yeah indiancandy1 why don't you live like that ? find some nice boring guys to get spitroasted by.
19:41 indiancandy1 im a shit gold digger
19:41 indiancandy1 i cnt sleep with ugly rich guys
19:41 indiancandy1 else i would
19:41 mircea_popescu why not ?!
19:41 indiancandy1 n not be broke
19:41 indiancandy1 i duno
19:41 indiancandy1 if fucks with my head man
19:41 mircea_popescu that's thje idea.
19:42 indiancandy1 coz i met plenty
19:42 indiancandy1 i never met a hot rich guy who aint a player
19:42 mircea_popescu duh.
19:42 indiancandy1 lol
19:42 indiancandy1 why duh
19:42 mircea_popescu obviously a hot rich guy isn't going to monogamy.
19:43 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
19:43 mircea_popescu til nubbins` is ugly.
19:43 indiancandy1 exactly
19:43 indiancandy1 i met ugly rich guys
19:43 indiancandy1 who wanna settle
19:43 indiancandy1 i cnt do it
19:43 indiancandy1 nasty ofos
19:43 indiancandy1 mofos
19:44 mircea_popescu well you settle for a little.
19:44 indiancandy1 huh
19:44 indiancandy1 i kno
19:44 indiancandy1 i swear
19:44 indiancandy1 i wish i could
19:44 indiancandy1 man
19:44 indiancandy1 i hate myself
19:45 mircea_popescu this seems to be a theme here. but i thought only guys did it.
19:45 brendafdez hating themselves?
19:45 mircea_popescu yeah.
19:46 indiancandy1 lol
19:46 mircea_popescu (obv. im being facetious. you know this, but the guys themselves don't. )
19:46 indiancandy1 do you hate yourself
19:46 mircea_popescu me ? nah.
19:46 mircea_popescu i let others do the hard work.
19:47 indiancandy1 no one hates you
19:47 indiancandy1 why would they
19:47 indiancandy1 u a big softy
19:47 brendafdez because he says ugly turths
19:48 indiancandy1 who owns woodcoin
19:48 mircea_popescu brendafdez more "because he seems to know it hurts and be amused by the circumstance"
19:48 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 i own some! but otherwise, funkenstein
19:48 indiancandy1 any goodd?
19:48 mircea_popescu neah.
19:51 indiancandy1 mircea
19:51 indiancandy1 kefatch
19:51 indiancandy1 aahahah sorry
19:51 indiancandy1 im tryna learn romanian
19:51 mircea_popescu ce faci :p
19:53 indiancandy1 wat u doing babes
19:53 mircea_popescu reading, mostly.
19:53 indiancandy1 about
19:54 mircea_popescu the article with the penis brendafdez linked above.
19:54 mircea_popescu it's pretty fucking stupid, i dunno why i keep doing this thing where i comment on some idiot's rants.
19:54 brendafdez i don't multithread, if I'm here I'm just here, reading the channel.
19:54 mircea_popescu sure, gets in some good points from the side, but the deluge of dumb brings the whole thing down.
19:54 mircea_popescu brendafdez im also eating chocolatebananaraisin with san juan.
19:55 indiancandy1 whats san juan
19:55 brendafdez chocolatebananaraisin? sounds good... i guess
19:55 indiancandy1 WHAT is that
19:55 nubbins` i'll never be ugly
19:55 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 this local cognac thing. pretty good
19:55 indiancandy1 its alcohol
19:55 mircea_popescu nubbins` to your credit, i thought you were way fatter than the cats show.
19:55 indiancandy1 whats the chocolateraisin a donut
19:56 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 no the actual ingredients. a bag of pasas de uva. a bag of la pinocha. a banana.
19:56 indiancandy1 i wish i knew what u were talking about
19:56 indiancandy1 im not from argentina not familiar bro
19:56 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 anyway, why not study to be a nurse ? it pays well.
19:56 indiancandy1 my moms a nurse
19:56 nubbins` mircea_popescu i'm comely when supine
19:57 indiancandy1 she is a gum nurse
19:57 mircea_popescu you'll still be catering to ugly old schmoes, but at least this tiem have a good pretext.
19:57 nubbins` you should see me on top ;/
19:57 indiancandy1 sexual health
19:57 mircea_popescu plus if you suck a cock once in a blue moon you'll be popular as all hell.
19:57 indiancandy1 nurses dont get paid good in the uk
19:57 mircea_popescu srsly ?!
19:57 nubbins` but at least the meds are cheap
19:57 indiancandy1 around 1200 gbp
19:57 indiancandy1 for 5days a week
19:57 mircea_popescu no fucking way ?!
19:57 mircea_popescu they make easily twice that in the us.
19:58 indiancandy1 1200 pounds a month
19:58 indiancandy1 yea but healthcare isnt free in usa
19:58 indiancandy1 like here
19:58 nubbins` free isn't free 8)
19:58 indiancandy1 maybe private health care nurse make more
19:58 brendafdez hahah was going to say that, no free lunch
19:58 indiancandy1 but my mom is sexual health clinic
19:58 indiancandy1 so thats free
19:58 mircea_popescu what's she do there ?
19:59 indiancandy1 shes a nurse for sexual health
19:59 indiancandy1 for ladies
20:00 indiancandy1 so like check the vagina you kknow
20:00 indiancandy1 for sexual diseases
20:00 indiancandy1 but they changed the system
20:00 indiancandy1 before the nurse had 2 do swabs herself on the patient
20:00 indiancandy1 but now its a cotton bud u insert urself in toilet and then put it in the tube
20:00 mircea_popescu btw, ask her what's the similarity between a practicing gynecologist and a healthy dog.
20:00 indiancandy1 then
20:01 indiancandy1 there is a machine that does all the work now
20:01 indiancandy1 so before they had to do the swabs and all but now no just blood test
20:01 indiancandy1 i duno about the seriose diseases how they work with that
20:01 indiancandy1 i dont ask
20:01 indiancandy1 like hiv etc
20:02 brendafdez http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206613/Chinese-hospitals-introduce-hands-free-automatic-sperm-extractor-donors-play-videos-help.html
20:02 assbot Chinese hospitals introduce hands-free automatic 'sperm extractor' for donors (that even play videos to 'help') | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/18TGopI )
20:02 mircea_popescu the country of cheap hand labour. oh, how the mighthy have fallen.
20:03 indiancandy1 i like ur name
20:03 indiancandy1 pierre rochard
20:03 indiancandy1 exotic sounds like a disney character
20:04 indiancandy1 mp
20:04 indiancandy1 u need to get on instagram yo
20:04 trinque loooool
20:04 brendafdez lol
20:04 mircea_popescu why ?
20:04 brendafdez it even has rounded crners, dont ask
20:05 indiancandy1 its fun
20:05 indiancandy1 what has rounded corners
20:05 indiancandy1 the sperm donor thing
20:05 brendafdez instagram
20:05 indiancandy1 okay
20:05 mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4da22b1f1235a8e2146a52f24352e900/tumblr_meo80dycba1rsltkro1_1280.jpg
20:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18TGH3Z )
20:06 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 what do you mean "it's fun"
20:06 indiancandy1 her ipples
20:06 indiancandy1 nipples look fucked
20:06 indiancandy1 the older lady
20:06 indiancandy1 i hate nipples like that
20:06 brendafdez he ventured into twitter and things didn't end well... someone got death threats and stuff
20:06 indiancandy1 look like they been slapped on
20:06 indiancandy1 but the other girl looks sexy
20:06 mircea_popescu eh stop being so critical.
20:07 mircea_popescu brendafdez ftr, my twitter account is from before o'reilly discovered bitcoin / created a house "expert".
20:07 mircea_popescu but it's been abandoned longer than used, because well... the platform's retarded.
20:07 indiancandy1 i got better nipples obvios
20:08 trinque mircea_popescu: if it's the same handle as IRC, got suspended
20:08 brendafdez he has another one unused
20:08 brendafdez i think
20:08 mircea_popescu trinque yeah that one. 2009 iirc
20:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00025426 = 4.9708 BTC [+] {2}
20:08 mircea_popescu because at the time all the fuckable ro chicks were like "mp, come on twitter, its fun"
20:09 brendafdez hahahahaha :) instagram is tha future
20:09 mircea_popescu yeah, the future of flies.
20:10 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 so when are you coming to argentina ? find yourself a nice brazillian bf, etc ?
20:10 indiancandy1 when you sponsor me
20:10 indiancandy1 can i stay at our house
20:10 indiancandy1 your|*
20:11 mircea_popescu well you could but then you'll hafta do all sorts of things.
20:12 indiancandy1 like get you drunk
20:12 indiancandy1 take you clubbing
20:12 indiancandy1 be ur wing man
20:12 indiancandy1 :D
20:13 mircea_popescu lol. not at first.
20:13 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/7eaa07042c70a1a985dc05680728852b/tumblr_nfbv4oVaSc1u09k11o1_1280.jpg << lol, blanke schande.
20:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtkHNS )
20:14 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
20:14 mircea_popescu you gotta get in the wot already yo.
20:14 mircea_popescu why let everyone think beauty and brains don't mix ?
20:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00025524 = 3.5478 BTC [+]
20:16 indiancandy1 i need to
20:16 brendafdez Bc it gives hope to those of us who are ugly, or doesn't it work like that? Ok, now i don't even want to know... ;)
20:16 indiancandy1 but i need help
20:16 indiancandy1 can u teach me how
20:18 indiancandy1 .........
20:18 indiancandy1 waites
20:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00025605 = 4.0456 BTC [+] {2}
20:20 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin above MtGox $266 high 2 years on" http://bitbet.us/bet/1126/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 74(Y):26(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.44595505 BTC. Current weight: 42,774.
20:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0002489 = 2.6383 BTC [-]
20:29 mircea_popescu !h
20:29 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
20:29 mircea_popescu see that indiancandy1 where it says "first steps in bitcoin assets"
20:30 indiancandy1 nope
20:30 indiancandy1 where should i look
20:30 mircea_popescu on the left.
20:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00024899 = 5.1541 BTC [+] {2}
20:33 indiancandy1 i cant find it
20:33 mircea_popescu http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets/ <
20:33 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Otojjb )
20:34 indiancandy1 all this text
20:34 indiancandy1 giving me head ake
20:34 indiancandy1 LOL
20:34 nubbins` zzzz
20:35 indiancandy1 dont be rude
20:35 indiancandy1 nubins
20:35 indiancandy1 about zzz
20:35 mircea_popescu http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36085/what-are-the-arguments-for-and-against-the-increase-of-the-block-size-limit << check it out lol.
20:35 assbot scalability - What are the arguments for and against the increase of the block size limit? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtoF9q )
20:36 brendafdez i was asked to translate a piece of utter stupudity about "btc scalability" for a certain website. I'm making $30 on this but it sucks.
20:36 brendafdez having to translate braindamage
20:37 mircea_popescu who the fuck is murch, other than a guy with a skin rash, which he imagines comes from reading stuf online rather than from poor hygiene
20:37 indiancandy1 wow
20:37 mircea_popescu sucks to be you i guess.
20:37 indiancandy1 whose murch
20:37 brendafdez who? me?
20:37 indiancandy1 ahahah
20:38 mircea_popescu brendafdez yeah you.
20:39 indiancandy1 mp
20:39 indiancandy1 when you booking my flight
20:39 brendafdez I don't think it sucks too badly, but maybe as compared to being mp... ;)
20:40 mircea_popescu indiancandy1 a while after your tits are on the article, for sure.
20:40 indiancandy1 which article
20:40 brendafdez hahah she refused the 0.1 BTC last time
20:41 nubbins` a whole dime
20:41 nubbins` !s dime
20:41 assbot 88 results for 'dime' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dime
20:41 indiancandy1 come on
20:41 mircea_popescu tough work eh.
20:41 indiancandy1 my tits are worth more baby brenda
20:41 mircea_popescu it's supposed to be unappealing. that's what keeps you in your current rut.
20:41 mircea_popescu water in teh glass.
20:41 nubbins` heh
20:42 nubbins` clean glass? here y'go, your highness
20:42 indiancandy1 youu lost me
20:42 brendafdez i wouldn't doubt it, indiancandy1, but I'd be more convinced if they were posted on trilema
20:42 nubbins` you should probably ctrl-c that
20:43 indiancandy1 mp most my tits
20:43 indiancandy1 on trilema
20:43 indiancandy1 get them more famous
20:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7473 @ 0.00024547 = 1.8344 BTC [-]
20:43 brendafdez Now you're paying him 0.1 for it :P
20:43 nubbins` mine are on there
20:43 indiancandy1 nubbins send url
20:44 brendafdez http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
20:44 assbot I'll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0bs4I )
20:45 mircea_popescu http://www.ofnumbers.com/2015/02/06/what-is-the-blockchain-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << Tim Swanson is making his own personal wot! confound this whole thing, who said independent minded texan has to kiss teh pinky pope ring!11
20:45 assbot What is the blockchain hard fork “missile crisis?” | Great Wall of Numbers ... ( http://bit.ly/18TJKZM )
20:46 mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1
20:46 indiancandy1 i like thr 3rd girls nipples
20:47 mircea_popescu ;;seen sexysaffron
20:47 gribble sexysaffron was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <sexysaffron> ok!
20:47 indiancandy1 yes
20:47 indiancandy1 i remember her
20:47 indiancandy1 she did the utube vdeo
20:47 mircea_popescu fetish chick.
20:47 indiancandy1 for 50dollars
20:47 indiancandy1 or something
20:49 indiancandy1 tits 4 30 dollars
20:49 indiancandy1 hmmm
20:50 brendafdez http://i.imgur.com/rgzyJfv.jpg beat mine hands down? :3 I'm sure you do
20:50 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Otrg35 )
20:50 mircea_popescu lol you're too price driven. gotta be service driven to succeed, you're a woman after all.
20:50 mircea_popescu ask not what this produces for me, ask instead how i could best serve.
20:51 mircea_popescu brendafdez how does one beat tits ?
20:51 mircea_popescu i mean, metaphorically.
20:52 indiancandy1 brenda
20:52 indiancandy1 is that u
20:52 indiancandy1 ur cute yo
20:52 brendafdez by havinf a more squishy pair i dunno. Yes, that's me. Not now, i downloaded it from somewhere, but still me :P
20:53 indiancandy1 dont tel me 10years back
20:53 indiancandy1 ur pretty girl
20:53 brendafdez no, like 1 year ago
20:53 mircea_popescu so earlier trinque dumps trinquette, now indiancandy1 finds true love in brendafdez...
20:53 mircea_popescu truely teh lord taketh, the lord giveth away.
20:53 indiancandy1 ahahah
20:54 indiancandy1 whose trinque
20:54 indiancandy1 etc
20:54 trinque o/^ a time to be born; a time to die o/^
20:54 mircea_popescu brb having my cock sucked again
20:54 mircea_popescu the first one didn't take.
20:54 brendafdez hah
20:55 brendafdez indiancandy1 he was the guy writing yesterday night about the issues with his wife/gf/something
20:56 indiancandy1 this is 4 u mp
20:56 indiancandy1 old pic
20:56 indiancandy1 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1UU8sSdjP5w/UwyPfj_xJ-I/AAAAAAAABLM/DgfaV_zyRa4/s1600/A7YSCtZCIAAhltB.jpg
20:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtswTQ )
20:56 indiancandy1 bdms
20:56 indiancandy1 bdsm
20:58 indiancandy1 im looking 4 recent
20:58 indiancandy1 nipple pic
20:59 brendafdez you're top quality, i can't compete :) but I have picture with the mazagazine with lots of issues: https://www.titsforbitcoin.com/pics/s-38.jpg?1427158661 the background says what a slob I am...
20:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ott3Fm )
21:01 indiancandy1 nice nail colur
21:01 indiancandy1 ur pretty
21:01 indiancandy1 babs
21:01 indiancandy1 babes************
21:01 brendafdez thx it's the same I have on now <3
21:01 indiancandy1 dont forget u are fabulous
21:01 thestringpuller lol mircea_popescu we are desiging your fortress/palace with a trap to push niggas down
21:01 thestringpuller dat fall damage
21:02 indiancandy1 brenda have u met mp
21:02 indiancandy1 he lives near u
21:02 brendafdez supposedly we inhabit the same city
21:03 trinque thestringpuller: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110615180140/gameofthrones/images/1/18/Bronn_defeats_Vardis.jpg << eh?
21:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OttH5N )
21:03 brendafdez indiancandy but for sure, i was here first ;)
21:04 thestringpuller trinque: essentially
21:05 * asciilifeform opens crate with the ill-fated rngs (nominally - reworked)
21:06 brendafdez but maybe they were REALLY random and you couldn't appreciate their kind of randomness u.u poor little things
21:11 brendafdez I never had much success as to dating/sex/relationships, so I mostly learned languages through porn. One of my language learning resources for German back in 2007 was http://www.pantiesparadise.de/index.php i was an awesome place, and there was even another similar site, which must still be around. I never saw anything like this in English- or Spanish-land. There are som subreddits for used underwear and some girls sell theirs on eb
21:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18TLJgP )
21:11 brendafdez ay and such but nothing compares to PP and YP. And I have to wonder why during all these years nothing has emerged to occupy this space.
21:13 danielpbarron !up Bagels7
21:13 indiancandy1 u learnt languages because of porn
21:13 indiancandy1 that is classic statement
21:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00024547 = 2.5406 BTC [-]
21:14 indiancandy1 http://pzy.be/v/2/Screenshot_2015-03-20-05-38-34.png
21:14 assbot PicsCrazy - simple image hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtvBTQ )
21:14 trinque that's a better excuse than "for the story"
21:14 indiancandy1 my tits 2days back
21:14 brendafdez through porn, nothing else works
21:14 indiancandy1 damn
21:15 brendafdez indiancandy they are awesome <3 those tits. I feel guilty now that I made you start posting pics :)
21:16 brendafdez !up indiancandy1_
21:17 brendafdez !up indiancandy1
21:17 brendafdez indiancandy1 indiancandy1_ now I'm confused...
21:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00023854 = 5.8442 BTC [-] {2}
21:18 indiancandy1_ why
21:18 brendafdez bc there's two of you in chan
21:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00023527 = 1.5175 BTC [-]
21:19 indiancandy1_ s there
21:19 indiancandy1_ some loser is imposting me
21:19 indiancandy1_ how gay
21:19 indiancandy1_ some real sad fuckjer
21:19 indiancandy1_ fucker
21:19 brendafdez How can we know which one is for real? care to gpg sign something? :P
21:19 indiancandy1_ who can go suck his moms vagina
21:19 brendafdez no, now for real, didn't you register your username?
21:19 indiancandy1_ no
21:20 indiancandy1_ but u no
21:20 indiancandy1_ this happens 2 m
21:20 indiancandy1_ quite often
21:20 indiancandy1_ i dont get the wot thing mircea talkin about
21:20 asciilifeform trinque: i forgot to ask, who is/was lena dunham ?
21:20 indiancandy1_ its to complex
21:20 asciilifeform trinque: specifically as it pertains to the woman
21:20 gabriel_laddel indiancandy1_: read more
21:20 gabriel_laddel indiancandy1_: start at bitcoin-assets.com
21:20 trinque asciilifeform: lol, just the writer of HBO junk food
21:20 brendafdez You have to talk to NickServ and say register <password> <email>
21:20 indiancandy1_ i cant
21:21 indiancandy1_ it hurts my eyes
21:21 indiancandy1_ lol
21:21 asciilifeform trinque: yes, i was able to discover that much. but why the emotion.
21:21 brendafdez first you register your username, then you start thinking about the wot
21:22 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-03-2015#1055439 << http://imgur.com/SXdFiZx
21:22 assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 16:28:18; pete_dushenski: i'd never had a ball boy before and it. was. sweet.
21:22 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Otxn7r )
21:22 gabriel_laddel mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/ << scam
21:22 assbot NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtxobH )
21:22 trinque asciilifeform: see pm, and also that said person consider herself an artist
21:23 indiancandy1_ huh
21:28 indiancandy1_ brenda
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00023527 = 4.4584 BTC [-]
21:28 indiancandy1_ why r u cominin on my name
21:28 indiancandy1_ that is real lame
21:28 indiancandy1_ i liked u b4
21:29 gabriel_laddel .furrybait
21:29 gabriel_laddel http://imgur.com/hUSTql1
21:29 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtyFPU )
21:29 indiancandy1_ wtf
21:30 trinque indiancandy1_: not hard to register
21:30 indiancandy1_ there is no pooint
21:30 trinque /msg nickserv register <your password> <your email>
21:30 indiancandy1_ whatever like
21:30 indiancandy1_ i dont get it
21:30 gabriel_laddel !down indiancandy1_
21:31 trinque gabriel_laddel: sir you've blocked the influx of tits
21:31 trinque this is a cardinal sin
21:31 brendafdez indiancandy1_ just wanted to see if your nickname was actually squatted, it is.
21:31 gabriel_laddel trinque: I'm trying to teach her the WoT
21:31 brendafdez but you downed her :(
21:31 gabriel_laddel hit her over the head with it... perhaps she'll grok?
21:32 gabriel_laddel you can up her
21:32 gabriel_laddel I'm not going to do anything, just... read moar
21:32 brendafdez i'm the nowest one around, that might be a faux pas...
21:32 trinque having not done so, I'm aware of the lesson being taught
21:32 trinque yet... tits!
21:33 trinque !up indiancandy1_
21:33 indiancandy1_ :O
21:33 trinque indiancandy1_: register yo nick!
21:33 indiancandy1_ i duno how to man
21:33 indiancandy1_ i cant understand it
21:33 trinque indiancandy1_: that thing I said
21:33 indiancandy1_ the site
21:33 indiancandy1_ with the text
21:33 indiancandy1_ i dont get it
21:33 danielpbarron indiancandy1_, what operating system is on your computer?
21:33 indiancandy1_ windows
21:33 brendafdez danielpbarron you have to ask
21:33 brendafdez ?
21:34 danielpbarron ok, first step is to remove windows
21:34 indiancandy1_ y
21:34 danielpbarron i guess before you do that, prepare a flash drive with an installer for openbsd or gentoo or something
21:34 gabriel_laddel trinque: http://imgur.com/pNm3zxY
21:34 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Otzx7l )
21:34 indiancandy1_ i cant not use windows yo
21:34 danielpbarron indiancandy1_, because winblows is insecure malware masquerading as an operating system
21:35 danielpbarron you are smart enough to keep coming back here
21:35 danielpbarron give yourself a little credit
21:35 brendafdez you're scaring her, let her register the nick before
21:35 danielpbarron well yeah, you can register nick with nickserv as you are now
21:35 trinque gabriel_laddel: already seen 'em
21:36 indiancandy1_ daniel didnt even understand what u mean
21:36 danielpbarron winblows is bad
21:36 trinque danielpbarron: installing an OS is going to be too much at once
21:36 indiancandy1_ but the other things are complex
21:36 indiancandy1_ do you use apple
21:36 danielpbarron shouldn't take longer than 6 months to figure out :p
21:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00021571 = 3.7749 BTC [-]
21:37 brendafdez indiancandy1: Once you try linux, you come asking for more
21:37 danielpbarron indiancandy1_, no; there is more than just winblows and crapple
21:38 indiancandy1_ you and your names
21:38 indiancandy1_ i use my laptop for basic things thoigh
21:38 indiancandy1_ browsing chating social media
21:38 indiancandy1_ thats it
21:38 danielpbarron me too
21:38 brendafdez with windows your laptop uses you
21:38 brendafdez not just your laptop
21:38 danielpbarron so why do you use such a bloated complicated piece of garbage OS?
21:39 indiancandy1_ whats OS?
21:39 danielpbarron operating system
21:39 indiancandy1_ what do you recomend
21:39 danielpbarron gentoo or openbsd
21:39 trinque lol, cmere toddler, check out the deep end
21:39 trinque SPLOOSH
21:39 danielpbarron openbsd has an autoinstaller but might not do everything you'd like
21:39 indiancandy1_ okay will look into it
21:39 trinque indiancandy1_: it's literally as simple as what I typed
21:39 trinque IRC has commands which are preceded by slash
21:40 indiancandy1_ literally i browse online
21:40 indiancandy1_ i do cam shows
21:40 trinque msg sends a message to a name
21:40 indiancandy1_ listen 2 music chat
21:40 indiancandy1_ thats it
21:40 danielpbarron indiancandy1_, what web browser do you use?
21:40 indiancandy1_ oh and i watch movies online
21:40 trinque /msg nickserv means send a message to nickserv
21:40 indiancandy1_ chrome
21:40 danielpbarron chromium works flawless on gentoo
21:40 danielpbarron that's what i use
21:40 indiancandy1_ why do you change the names
21:40 danielpbarron it's *better* on *nix than on winblows
21:40 indiancandy1_ LOL
21:40 danielpbarron it's called chromium on linux
21:40 trinque danielpbarron: yeah I find that to be true as well
21:40 brendafdez trinque how do you comment the "/"?
21:40 indiancandy1_ ahhh
21:41 indiancandy1_ okay
21:41 trinque brendafdez: if you do two
21:41 indiancandy1_ so im looking into gentoo
21:41 brendafdez thx
21:41 indiancandy1_ i got windows 8 atm
21:41 trinque only necessary at the beginning
21:41 danielpbarron i can play youtube videos and do twitter / instagram / facebook / whatever
21:41 indiancandy1_ and webcam?
21:41 danielpbarron haven't tried that
21:41 brendafdez no, linux is srs os, no webcam :P
21:42 brendafdez j/k
21:42 danielpbarron nobody wants to see my knockers
21:42 indiancandy1_ lol
21:42 indiancandy1_ i mean
21:42 indiancandy1_ can u webcam
21:42 indiancandy1_ like use it on skype etc
21:42 danielpbarron idk lemme try google hangouts i guess
21:42 brendafdez if you absolutely want to use skype, you can. All else you mention, you can.
21:43 indiancandy1_ i do skype shows
21:43 indiancandy1_ linux is good right
21:43 brendafdez Skype is rogue, I gather there are safe(r) ways to run it anyway.
21:44 trinque nsa gon get ya tits
21:44 trinque frankly a Ubuntu live cd is probably a more sensible first try
21:44 trinque make a stick with ubnetbootin or whatever
21:44 BingoBoingo Yeah
21:44 brendafdez it calls home and sends encrypted traffic even when idle, so you never know what it's doing.
21:44 indiancandy1_ ubuntu is that a african tribe
21:45 indiancandy1_ it sounds familiaer
21:45 trinque lol
21:45 indiancandy1_ seriose
21:45 brendafdez my first distro was ubuntu-based, I wish I had started with something else
21:45 BingoBoingo Ubuntu is traditional African software, from Rhodesia
21:45 danielpbarron i can't in good conscience recommend nigbuntu
21:45 danielpbarron lol "ubuntu based" such meta
21:46 indiancandy1_ rhodesia doesnt exist
21:46 indiancandy1_ anymore
21:46 indiancandy1_ its zambia
21:46 danielpbarron sadly :<
21:46 trinque I mean just to have something that boots to a thing with a mouse pointer
21:46 trinque "k, this is linux"
21:46 BingoBoingo indiancandy1_: It's still Rhodesia in my heart
21:46 trinque arch/gentoo/bsd ass torture later
21:46 indiancandy1_ why
21:47 indiancandy1_ you from there
21:47 indiancandy1_ ?
21:47 brendafdez torture as in enjoyable?
21:47 BingoBoingo indiancandy1_: Nah, just heard stories
21:47 danielpbarron it's really not so hard!
21:47 trinque brendafdez: gentoo quest is now boring for me, but sure
21:47 trinque rpg where you diddle nobs on an infinite wall forever
21:48 brendafdez I want to go the Arch way, never do
21:48 danielpbarron if you must compromise, debian is not yet systemd-ified
21:48 indiancandy1_ bingo u lier
21:48 indiancandy1_ u never heard no stories
21:49 brendafdez head is starting to ache, more coffee will do...
21:49 BingoBoingo indiancandy1_: I heard it was named after a dude who funded a bunch of scholarships. Don't see how there could be anything bad in that.
21:49 * asciilifeform misread 'google hangouts' as 'google handouts', almost fell down
21:50 indiancandy1_ https://twitter.com/MYSADCAT
21:50 assbot WHY MY CAT IS SAD (@MYSADCAT) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/18TOQFE )
21:50 danielpbarron well my webcam worked on ubuntu so it would probably work on gentoo if i recompiled my kernel to allow it
21:51 indiancandy1_ is ur cam a plugin
21:51 indiancandy1_ or inbuikt
21:51 indiancandy1_ built*
21:51 danielpbarron it's built in
21:51 indiancandy1_ same
21:51 danielpbarron that doesn't mean yours would work necessarily
21:52 danielpbarron i guess it wouldn't hurt to make an ubntu installer flash drive and use it to boot live and see if your hardware is supported by a linux kernel in general
21:52 danielpbarron do you have an old computer lying around that you can use as your offline machine?
21:52 brendafdez resisting the temptation to install it will be to much
21:53 danielpbarron well installing it would mean wiping out her winblows stuff
21:53 brendafdez she can always do dp ehhr... dual boot
21:53 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Her big issue is supporting the cam tools. Ubuntu is probably going to be fine for the camera in general, Iffier for skype. Probably not possible for her to use all of the tools she could need for work on OpenBSD/Gentoo without going through hell and rewriting some of them.
21:54 danielpbarron lol so ubuntu is linux for girls
21:55 trinque and for white guilt
21:55 brendafdez I subscribed to a linux for girls community a couple of months ago. Can't tell you what it's like
21:55 indiancandy1_ i have aa laptop
21:55 indiancandy1_ i dont own pcs
21:55 indiancandy1_ i got 2 laptops
21:55 indiancandy1_ one samsung notebook thing
21:55 indiancandy1_ and this hp touchscreen thing
21:56 danielpbarron i knew a chick that used ubuntu before i had given up windows completely, and she wasn't ugly either! looking back on it that was quite exceptional
21:56 brendafdez http://i.imgur.com/TQmHfIX.png
21:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18TPgfb )
21:57 danielpbarron lol
21:57 danielpbarron reminds me of the theo treatment
21:58 trinque attestation of female compliance lol
21:58 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Oh, you emailed theo or what?
21:58 danielpbarron !up Bagels7
21:58 trinque "k now you can learn the handshake AND NEVER TELL ANYONE"
21:58 danielpbarron lol no! I mean this whole "we need you to affirm the following before we can continue" b.s.
21:58 BingoBoingo Ah
21:58 brendafdez I was also asked to please not keep a public archive, but I doubt they'll be letting me in
21:58 trinque you know, we're not a real cult until we have some brainwashing chant
21:58 trinque this girls linux club has one up on us
21:59 BingoBoingo indiancandy1_: If you like both laptops you have as they are you could get something like this to play with linux on http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=acer+aspire+pink&_frs=1
21:59 assbot acer aspire pink | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/18TPx1H )
21:59 * BingoBoingo doesn't know of anywhere other than ebay that routinely sells interesting computers.
22:00 danielpbarron 20 bucks for one of these things? what's the catch?
22:01 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Looks like the auction just stated. also the description is rather blah
22:01 BingoBoingo On the $20 one
22:02 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: To be fair the things were about $200 new
22:04 danielpbarron This aver pink laptop is used and is very slow and old. It would be great to use for replacement items or even for a starter laptop. It does work it's just slow. << I can live with slow
22:04 BingoBoingo I had a grey one passed it on to a younger brother. Ran ubuntu fine. Ran rather awesome with an SSD.
22:05 Bagels7 Hi, Can I get a dime please. http://i.gyazo.com/bc55f87a2ad2dd0d5c222e3a0901d962.png
22:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FSjCLK )
22:05 brendafdez should talk to mircea_popescu
22:05 brendafdez but I don't think that qualifies
22:06 brendafdez Bagels7 you have to write a code on them, which he will provide
22:07 Bagels7 yes, I am aware
22:08 brendafdez Bagels7 your first time here? :)
22:08 Bagels7 no, ive been lurking for months now
22:09 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
22:09 gribble Current Blocks: 348936 | Current Difficulty: 4.671754964470642E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 350783 | Next Difficulty In: 1847 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 50205188349.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.46537
22:09 BingoBoingo !t s.mpoe
22:09 assbot Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
22:09 BingoBoingo !t s.qntr
22:09 assbot You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
22:09 BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe
22:09 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00021571 / 0.00025761 / 0.00028284 (1137196 shares, 292.95 BTC), 7D: 0.00021571 / 0.00029178 / 0.00033536 (17125866 shares, 4,997.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00021571 / 0.00035239 / 0.0004493 (82027201 shares, 28,905.83 BTC)
22:09 BingoBoingo !t m s.qntr
22:09 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00021105 / 0.00026069 / 0.000301 (36659 shares, 9.56 BTC)
22:11 Bagels7 [22:05] <+Bagels7> Hi, Can I get a dime please. http://i.gyazo.com/bc55f87a2ad2dd0d5c222e3a0901d962.png <<< Probably some sort of witchcraft
22:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18TQ43I )
22:12 Bagels7 bad paste. [22:06] <+brendafdez> Bagels7 you have to write a code on them, which he will provide
22:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00022114 = 2.4104 BTC [+]
22:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26980 @ 0.00021745 = 5.8668 BTC [-] {3}
22:21 danielpbarron wow, ebay is completely unusable unless I turn off cookie whitelisting
22:22 danielpbarron lets me browse and think i'm logged in, and then hits me with a login page for any meaningful action like placing a bid or even asking a question to the seller
22:23 danielpbarron Probably some sort of witchcraft << the secret code was just the random string assigned by webchat -- not sure what it would be for someone not using webchat
22:24 danielpbarron maybe a shoe on head? or licking a hammer
22:24 danielpbarron i have placed a bid for 20 USD for a pink laptop
22:25 brendafdez use sniping
22:25 brendafdez placing bids is bad
22:25 BingoBoingo danielpbarron> lets me browse and think i'm logged in, and then hits me with a login page for any meaningful action like placing a bid or even asking a question to the seller << I find this typical. To be fair I'd rather it ask me to auth often and on actions. Ebay considered their auctions to be contracts.
22:25 * danielpbarron is ebay n00b
22:25 danielpbarron right but the extra special login WILL NOT WORK unless i disable cookie whitelisting
22:26 danielpbarron just keeps cycling me back to the login page
22:26 BingoBoingo Ah
22:26 danielpbarron i don't mind putting *.ebay.com on my whitelist; I do mind putting all the other crap
22:32 danielpbarron one of you girls who needs a linux training laptop should really outbid me on this pink thing
22:32 danielpbarron guy responded, sounds like there's nothing substantially wrong with the thing
22:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00021036 = 5.3642 BTC [-]
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22:54 BingoBoingo scoopbot: -fetch
22:54 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/empire-in-decline-us-retreats-from-yemen-isis-escalates-to-doxxing/
22:59 brendafdez weird wording "members of the Armed Forces to limit information the personal information they leak on social media"
23:00 BingoBoingo fixed
23:01 BingoBoingo I think
23:01 brendafdez yep :)
23:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00021036 = 4.5227 BTC [-]
23:02 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1066689 << lol
23:02 assbot Logged on 24-03-2015 01:39:34; trinque: lol, cmere toddler, check out the deep end
23:02 mircea_popescu i suspect they just want to see if the... buoys actually float.
23:03 brendafdez " It is hard to interpret " there seems to be a 'not' missing
23:03 mircea_popescu Special Forces soldier have been
23:03 brendafdez unless you mean people are clueless
23:04 mircea_popescu of dox ISIS included << comma before isis.
23:04 asciilifeform again the 'doxxing' idi0cy
23:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not so idiotic as all that.
23:05 mircea_popescu isis is pioneering the "before you can get voice, pick a name off this list and torture their children on cam"
23:05 asciilifeform what, it's a secret that mr x drops bombs for a living ?
23:05 mircea_popescu yes.
23:05 BingoBoingo thx, fxd
23:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever -met- these folks ?
23:05 asciilifeform it takes all of 5 sec.
23:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo there's a good idea somewhere in there but kinda mollase'd out.
23:06 brendafdez i thought you'd write "it's hard not to interpret...", but it's ok this way too i's say
23:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. people who meet us armed forces socially and people who are willing to write USG SATAN in 5yo guts, provided the 5yo was spawned by a private first class have virtually no overlap.
23:07 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: yeah, but might be able to glue something with the molasses later.
23:07 mircea_popescu it boggles my mind that one has to be "allowed" to introduce a defense.
23:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0002133 = 4.074 BTC [+] {3}
23:07 mircea_popescu why even bother.
23:08 asciilifeform is there a 'you are biodiesel-on-the-hoof' defense?
23:08 asciilifeform (well, there is, but it isn't given in a court room)
23:08 asciilifeform wtf is it with this surrender idiocy anyway
23:09 mircea_popescu whose ?
23:09 asciilifeform snowden
23:09 mircea_popescu hm ?
23:09 asciilifeform or is it fictional
23:10 asciilifeform him 'wishing for fair trial'
23:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo did qntra eat my comment or they go to moderation or what ?
23:10 mircea_popescu seems more like self-wankery. "here's what we'd do to mila kunis if she knew who we were or cared"
23:11 brendafdez guys, I've seen gnome bashed security-wise a couple of times here in chan (or in the blogs, I'm not sure). What's so wrong with it? I'm really liking gnome-shell...
23:11 brendafdez But if there's something I should know, I'd rather do
23:11 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1066736 << booberbootin'.
23:11 assbot Logged on 24-03-2015 01:44:42; trinque: make a stick with ubnetbootin or whatever
23:11 mircea_popescu brendafdez http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-283/Gnome.html ?
23:12 assbot Gnome : Security vulnerabilities ... ( http://bit.ly/1CTfb49 )
23:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Rescued the comment from the spamtrap
23:12 mircea_popescu "GNOME Shell 3.14.x before 3.14.1, when the Screen Lock feature is used, does not limit the aggregate memory consumption of all active PrtSc requests, which allows physically proximate attackers to execute arbitrary commands on an unattended workstation by making many PrtSc requests and leveraging a temporary lock outage, and the resulting temporary shell availability, caused by the Linux kernel OOM killer."
23:12 mircea_popescu sort of thing
23:12 brendafdez hmm
23:13 mircea_popescu it's just... not designed or implemented by people with an understanding of computing.
23:14 mircea_popescu GNOME Display Manager (gdm) before 2.21.1 allows local users to change permissions of arbitrary directories via a symlink attack on /tmp/.X11-unix/. << lulzier one.
23:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is it because link ?
23:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Probably. Maybe it was a combination of link and maybe your commented here before cookie expired?
23:17 mircea_popescu mebbe
23:17 BingoBoingo I know you've fallen from *approved* to pending before.
23:17 mircea_popescu such faet.
23:17 BingoBoingo Sometimes cookies just get ate
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00021946 = 10.4682 BTC [+] {3}
23:19 mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1066787 << does it revolve around the general principle that girls are dumb and boring ?
23:19 assbot Logged on 24-03-2015 01:55:24; brendafdez: I subscribed to a linux for girls community a couple of months ago. Can't tell you what it's like
23:19 mircea_popescu that's usually how this shit goes.
23:19 mircea_popescu affirm lol
23:19 brendafdez mircea_popescu I was just curious to see what it's like in a 'linux for girls' mailing list, but I think they won't let me in if I don'f affirm nicely enough
23:20 asciilifeform linux for girls << when do we get, e.g., non-ferrous metallurgy, 'for gurlz
23:20 mircea_popescu ;;google valorie zimmerman tits
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23:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean bonbons ?
23:21 asciilifeform just wondered why computing gets the treatment.
23:21 asciilifeform what'd it do to deserve.
23:21 mircea_popescu for some reason THIS dude pops up as the only result for valorie's tits : https://plus.google.com/101283637653265125298
23:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18TUYNX )
23:21 mircea_popescu unremarkably, he's all about re-tweeting poettering on google twitter.
23:22 brendafdez ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:22 mircea_popescu "My personal conclusion out of all this is mostly just that I don't want to have much to do with the worst offenders, and the communities they run. My involvement with the kernel community ended pretty much before it even started, I never post on LKML, and haven't done in years. Also, in our own project we are policying posts. We regularly put a few folks on moderation on the mailing list, and we will continue to do s
23:22 mircea_popescu o. Currently, the systemd community is fantastic, and I really hope we can keep it that way."
23:22 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnWP2Emps1M << linked
23:22 assbot malfunction - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18TV2NS )
23:22 mircea_popescu this incidentally is pretty true : i don't know that anyone sane would want anything to do with lennart and his horde of derps either.
23:23 mircea_popescu " have a thick skin (and so do most of the others involved in systemd, apparently), and I figure that plays a major role why we managed to bring systemd to success, despite all the pressure in the opposite direction. "
23:24 asciilifeform succ355
23:24 mircea_popescu ahaha. 1) systemd is not nor will it ever be successful. 2) systemd is a grease spot strictly because of the red hat drilling platform upstream. once that goes away, the whole set of fleas and their "successes" and "ideas" and choices and whatever also go away.
23:24 asciilifeform i thought rathead was more or less defunkt
23:25 mircea_popescu but i gotta appreciate the delusion. really, lennart thinks he's me ? cool.
23:25 mircea_popescu should be a fun thing to watch, this.
23:25 Bet created: "Silver at or over $22/oz before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1132/
23:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, in the cisco way.
23:25 asciilifeform more like the ibm way
23:25 mircea_popescu defunct washington post/nytimes/libertard press spawned gawker.
23:25 BingoBoingo http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/23/gold-in-faeces-worth-millions-save-environment
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23:26 mircea_popescu anyway, the ideological cleavage is pretty clear, and it will only resolve itself in time.
23:27 asciilifeform 'we are policying posts' << ?@!??
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23:27 mircea_popescu d';oh.
23:27 asciilifeform what's 'policying' ?
23:27 mircea_popescu "If you are a newcomer to Linux, either grow a really thick skin. Or run away, it's not a friendly place to be in." << also do not be in linux.
23:28 mircea_popescu lol. and this is not his employer's agenda. this is just, you know, because reasons.
23:28 mircea_popescu these people.
23:28 asciilifeform 'go fellate nsa directly, not through a hose'
23:29 mircea_popescu anyway, it's pretty well articulated. consider the way this place works : once anything can be said, people suddenly manage to find "representatives" of groups they thought they hated quite likable. this happens on a regular basis.
23:29 mircea_popescu meanwhile in idiot us discourse, because of all the "care" being "expended" to "protect", nobody can talk to anyone about anything, and as a result everyone hates everyone else for no reason.
23:30 mircea_popescu then they morally responsible for the cesspool turn around and accuse the pillars making sanity possible of... you know, "fish rots from the head"
23:30 mircea_popescu the reason chinese peasants are starving is not enough socialism, dontcha know.
23:30 asciilifeform happens on a regular basis << wai wat
23:30 mircea_popescu so fucking banal in its "cultural revolutionary war" rehash it's really hardly worth the mention.
23:32 mircea_popescu brendafdez turns out half the people in the google grup of "women interested in linux" are actulaly guys.
23:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think most recently it was "hey, this christian dude isn't all bad"
23:33 asciilifeform yes i recall. where else though
23:33 mircea_popescu i don't actually keep that well indexed a list of this score
23:34 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: betcha 100% of it is 'goldschläger' !
23:34 mircea_popescu prolly more comes from the 10-50mn gold teeth
23:34 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Or the golden toilets at the local USG garisons erode
23:35 BingoBoingo Golden toilet may not be mere metaphore
23:35 mircea_popescu amusingly, n ceausescu was accused of this. people believed.
23:35 asciilifeform like yanukovich
23:35 asciilifeform and probably every 'tin dictator' of 20th c
23:36 mircea_popescu serves them right for ruling over a group dumb enough to believe that shit.
23:36 mircea_popescu somehow in the entire "must grow big fast" thing people omit to point out that well... you don't wanna rule over retards.
23:36 asciilifeform 'we go to war with the army we have not the army we wish we had' (TM)
23:37 mircea_popescu nobody forced him to be president.
23:37 asciilifeform aha could've stayed shoemaker.
23:37 mircea_popescu walkers and generals have very little in common.
23:37 brendafdez mircea_popescu maybe the affirmation policying isn't being done right. Half the people in the fb lesbian dating groups are guys, too...
23:38 mircea_popescu hahaha wait wait.
23:38 mircea_popescu social justice warrior posing as transgender lesbian female to get cooch ?
23:38 asciilifeform 'lesbian trapped in male body'
23:38 asciilifeform (tm)
23:38 asciilifeform (al schwartz)
23:38 brendafdez whatever works, not that that especially does
23:38 mircea_popescu i mean the entire "why do girls date assholes i have a great sense of humor she doesn't know what she's missing" beta lament is one thing
23:38 mircea_popescu but going THAT FAR ?!
23:39 mircea_popescu i like 69 as much as the next girl, but it never occured to me to pretend i'm a tupolev airplanewhile doing it.
23:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform truely usia is engaged in the empirical demonstration of the ancient notion that perversity knows no bounds.
23:40 asciilifeform or schwartz's 'the titanic achivement of simultaneous boring -and- perverse'
23:40 mircea_popescu i wonder if i could get tenure with a program on illiteracy.
23:40 mircea_popescu you come study for 4 years how to be illiterate.
23:40 asciilifeform already baked in every major us uni
23:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all perversion is boring to the normally endowed.
23:41 mircea_popescu no but i mean, plainly said
23:41 mircea_popescu oh, that's a problem isn't it. shit.
23:41 mircea_popescu i just don't understand how the dumbworld works.
23:41 asciilifeform i had similar idea once -
23:41 asciilifeform come to antiuni to unlearn xxxx
23:42 asciilifeform then they carefully waltz it out of yer brain
23:42 mircea_popescu that was a chinese specialty.
23:44 brendafdez you know, the whole betu thing sucks, and somteimes the coping strategy could well be 'fuck it, i didn't even want it in the first place, I'd rather be a woman where bug becomes feature'. Dunno, just speculating, I hadn't given it much thought before.
23:45 brendafdez s/betu/beta/
23:45 mircea_popescu doesn't work that way does it ?
23:45 brendafdez dunno, wouldn't go back either, this state of 'it not working' is much preferred to the previous state of 'it not working'. By orders of magnitude.
23:46 mircea_popescu preferred in the impersonal ? who prefers it ?
23:46 brendafdez me
23:46 mircea_popescu well maybe you miss the barn of a difference between "guy who is a girl because he prefers it" and "guy who claims to be a girl so as to [...]"
23:47 mircea_popescu causes an' purposes baby.
23:47 brendafdez ;)
23:47 brendafdez I can't keep in memory every single article all the time
23:48 mircea_popescu pretty decent part of a play or something this. "so if i become a woman will my sex work ?" "no, it still won't work" "So then ?" "well maybe you like it not working this way better."
23:48 brendafdez Anyway, I don't think claiming it and presenting female so as to x would be a good strategy at all, if you don't prefer it, you'll end up changing your mind, because it's hard to put up with all the attached issues to being perceived a woman if you were only doing it for a specific purpose
23:48 mircea_popescu quite exactly mirroring the consumer computing market. "my windows computer doesn't fucking work" "switch to gentoo" "will it work then ?" "no, but maybe you like the icons better"
23:49 mircea_popescu brendafdez you ever seen daisy diamond ?
23:49 brendafdez nope
23:49 mircea_popescu well, other than the part that it has infanticide, maybe you should check it out.
23:50 brendafdez k
23:50 BingoBoingo More snowflaking http://jenmylo.com/2015/03/23/defending-drupal/
23:50 assbot Defending Drupal | Jen Mylo, WordPress Cat Herder ... ( http://bit.ly/18TX0xx )
23:51 mircea_popescu horrid fucking scheme omfg
23:52 BingoBoingo ’ve given so many talks at WordCamps with a component about how it’s important to be nice, respectful, and welcoming — including the use of appropriate language and imagery — to the point that some people would really like to tell me to shut the fuck** up (or have!).
23:52 brendafdez mircea, in all honesty what wasn't working was life to the point I didn't want to go on (should've put an ad on gofundme but didn't occur to me). That was solved: social intereaction now is a whole different thing and it's much better. The fact that I still don't get to have the sex I like with the people I like is a minor issue compared to social interaction being broken as a whole.
23:53 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "adrian pintilie" ?
23:54 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/adrianpintilie << this guy. would be ro drupal shop
23:54 assbot Adrian Pintilie (@adrianpintilie) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/18TXcgc )
23:54 mircea_popescu amusingly, i dun think he knows yet :D
23:55 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Oh so a marginalized Romanian is being pissed on by an empowered evangalist of politeness for interacting with the world according to his culture.
23:55 mircea_popescu pretty much.
23:55 mircea_popescu well... he's not marginalized. just marginal.
23:56 mod6 /names
23:56 mod6 oops
23:56 gabriel_laddel Regarding lesbians. The definitive work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0VmahBTkE
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23:57 brendafdez https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/578424272353300480
23:57 assbot OH MY GOSH YESKUBUNTU 15.04 BETA WHEN YOU RESTART HAS A COUNTDOWN TIMERTHAT COUNTS DOWN TO 0AND KEEPS GOING http://t.co/KXGwdILaxD
23:58 mircea_popescu runs a tiny "digital agency" in practicaly akron, romania
23:58 mircea_popescu http://www.listafirme.ro/softescu-srl-23226393/
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23:58 mircea_popescu one employee, 10-100k turnover a year sorta thing
23:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah so the WordPress politeness is oppressing him.
23:59 mircea_popescu doubt anything but "why would anyone pay you to fuck up php, when php comes pre-fucked and if not indians will fuck it for 1/3 the price" opresses him.
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