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00:00	danielpbarron	"She was pretty drunk so this speech was littered with lovely curse words and slurring." << did this interview take place in b-a or something?
00:06	decimation	asciilifeform: re: what to do about hardware < sell diy "mr. fuser" kit at costco?
00:11	BingoBoingo	http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html << lol "Speaking of which, there must be negative feedback to discourage people from breaking stuff. This has been a continual problem with certain "developers" for more than a decade."
00:11	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GORRSq )
00:18	danielpbarron	basically saying they need to be more like the guy they kicked out
00:20	BingoBoingo	Not they, he
00:28	decimation	http://sputniknews.com/military/20150316/1019544767.html < ru mil 'conducting excercises' in eastern ru
00:28	assbot	Russia Starts Large-Scale Communications Drills in Nine Regions / Sputnik International ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu2Ouw )
00:32	BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/kernelslacker/status/577636505239289856
00:32	assbot	The advance warning for this OpenSSL bug can only mean one thing. There's going to be a dope logo for this bug on Thursday.
00:37	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 716 @ 0.01449993 = 10.3819 BTC [+] {2}
00:38	danielpbarron	!up brendafdez
00:41	brendafdez	nice i can haz voice. I was trying to use SASL authentication on hexchat, but for some reaosn it doesn't seem to work. Gave up, is very difficult, this irc stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_tHmL2Oug
00:41	assbot	TÉVEZ - VERY DIFFICULT - BIEN SUBTITULADO ESPAÑOL INGLÉS - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu4kgb )
00:41	mircea_popescu	"As one of the 4 originators of NetBSD, I am in a fairly unique position."
00:41	mircea_popescu	math is hard. fourtique position !
00:42	mircea_popescu	!gettrust brendafdez
00:42	assbot	brendafdez is not registered in WoT.
00:42	mircea_popescu	^ do that.
00:42	mircea_popescu	sasl is for the birds.
00:45	mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5SbHmZuRPU << sometimes the HORSE matador.
00:45	assbot	Corrida Nîmes - The Horse bite and kill the bull ! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu4LHr )
00:46	brendafdez	;;ident brendafdez
00:46	gribble	Nick 'brendafdez', with hostmask 'brendafdez!~brendafde@unaffiliated/brendafdez', is identified as user 'brendafdez', with GPG key id CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, key fingerprint 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, and bitcoin address None
00:49	mircea_popescu	other 1.
00:49	BingoBoingo	!h
00:49	assbot	http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
00:53	BingoBoingo	brendafdez: Assbot has its own way to authenticate use !register
00:55	mircea_popescu	"The existing NetBSD Foundation must be disbanded, and replaced with an organization that fulfills its original purpose: to merely handle administrative issues"
00:55	mircea_popescu	lol. imbecile "Foundation", a problem for every netbsd clone since day one.
00:56	brendafdez	!register 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4
00:56	assbot	Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4. This may take a few moments.
00:56	assbot	Key 81FCA4D4 / "Brenda Fernández <me@brendafernandez.com>" successfully imported.
00:56	assbot	Registration successful.
00:56	brendafdez	like so?
00:57	mircea_popescu	yes.
00:57	mircea_popescu	!rate brendafdez 1 New tits
00:57	assbot	Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/eda46b0d1274e0b8
00:57	mircea_popescu	!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.brendafdez.1:bd0936d5e7c2db1878ac7d3ac05fb79ac1087d9de8c7139108bbc564651c4aa1
00:57	assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: New tits
00:57	mircea_popescu	you voice yourself by pm ing assbot !up
00:58	brendafdez	wow (:
01:00	BingoBoingo	https://wiki.ripple.com/Freeze
01:00	assbot	Freeze - Ripple Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/18AjX8O )
01:04	BingoBoingo	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/06/heavily-armed-drug-cops-raid-retirees-garden-seize-okra-plants/
01:04	assbot	Heavily armed drug cops raid retiree’s garden, seize okra plants - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu78de )
01:07	ben_vulpes	;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself?
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01:07	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/18AlcVN )
01:07	gribble	The operation succeeded.
01:09	ben_vulpes	a brendafdez!
01:10	mircea_popescu	"The Cannabis Eradication programs have historically inflated the size of their hauls by including non-psychoactive "ditchweed" in their totals of plants seized. In past years, ditchweed accounted for up to 98 percent of seized outdoor plant totals."
01:10	mircea_popescu	epic. the usg, inflating EVERYTHING.
01:10	mircea_popescu	fake psychiatric patients. fake foster kids. fake homeless. fake pot captures, fake mit engineering degrees, fake currency
01:10	mircea_popescu	and im sure, fake orgasms.
01:14	BingoBoingo	;;google US fake orgasm epidemic
01:14	gribble	The Orgasm Deficit - Cosmopolitan: <http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a28359/orgasm-deficit/>; The Under F**ked Pussy Epidemic (Every Woman Needs To Read ...: <http://mytinysecrets.com/the-under-fked-pussy-epidemic-every-women-need-to-read-this/>; The infidelity epidemic: Never have marriage vows been under so ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311947/The- (1 more message)
01:17	mircea_popescu	heh.
01:18	mircea_popescu	they seriously misspelled fucking in the title of an article about cunt and fucking ?
01:18	mircea_popescu	here's an idea : if you're not comfortable spelling your topic, write about something else.
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01:49	ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: "trip" << hilarious
02:02	mircea_popescu	ha! thanks.
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02:25	brendafdez	forgive the laziness to look it up, but the wot ratings entered with assbot end up showing on bitcoin-otc the same as they did back when one registered them with gribble, right? They get 'synced' after a while?
02:28	BingoBoingo	Whether they sync ever if I recall correctly is still a bit of a mystery
02:34	brendafdez	(:
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03:05	mircea_popescu	brendafdez well, there's some talks to get the two bots talking to each other, but they're proceeding glacially.
03:05	mircea_popescu	so far assbot keeps its own thing, you can curl query it, look in the wiki/logs for examples.
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03:34	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00031387 = 19.7738 BTC [-] {3}
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03:58	brendafdez	Trying to reach that promised land of inbox 0 i unearthed an old message saying i had shares waiting for me on registration at CipherTrade. Towards the end of 2013 during the bubble, i had purchased a number of shares of CipherMine, because the issuer, Kate of memset, was also trans, hot and into women, so they couldn't possibly be a bad choice. I boght 90 of the things at some 4 LTC each. Each LTC was some 10 dollars at the time. I
03:58	brendafdez	expected to at least find enough for a beer or a coffee if I registered, claimed and liquidated the position.
03:59	brendafdez	Was greeted with this instead: "There is no historical trading data available for this security You own 90 shares of a total of 110000 listed on CipherTrade Best ask rate: N/A Best bid rate: N/A"
04:00	fluffypony	lol ciphertrade
04:00	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0003116 = 5.5465 BTC [-] {2}
04:00	fluffypony	such a fail
04:01	brendafdez	At least the remaining 0.12 LTC which weren't enough to buy a full share are still there waiting. I see complains in the forum that withdrawals aren't being processed correctly, but it it goes through I might walk away almost with a full quarter
04:04	brendafdez	such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late.
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04:10	cazalla	brendafdez you're a dude?
04:12	fluffypony	cazalla: I gather from the "also trans" comment above that she's an ex-dude
04:12	*	fluffypony has no idea how genders work anymore
04:12	brendafdez	yo http://i.imgur.com/5tSSg2D.jpg
04:12	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Cowqc0 )
04:13	fluffypony	hah hah
04:17	cazalla	brendafdez, ya don't really hold a candle to bailey jay but i guess you can pass
04:19	BingoBoingo	!up indiancandy1
04:21	brendafdez	that's not me, i don't have a picture of myself in the mens room, but it was quite graphic. This is me for real: http://brendafernandez.com/aboutme/ and there are many many pictures in other places. Today Anon took the effort to out me in the Trilema comments. But I prefer to take that pleasure away from people and out myself beforehand.
04:21	assbot	About me | Brenda Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoxrR6 )
04:23	cazalla	brendafdez, well you're not the first trans to come here, likely not even the second
04:24	brendafdez	So it was allinvain, I'm not getting the badge after all (?
04:26	indiancandy1	hi
04:27	cazalla	brendafdez, yeah, no badge for you, not sure where the other trans went, think he/she had drug problems or something, homeless too from memory
04:27	cazalla	indiancandy1, started camming yet?
04:28	indiancandy1	when today
04:32	cazalla	when ever i guess
04:33	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00030906 = 12.7642 BTC [-] {2}
04:34	brendafdez	indiancandy1, i could introduce you to titsforbitcoin
04:34	indiancandy1	introduce me
04:34	indiancandy1	please
04:34	indiancandy1	i thought mp was the only buyer
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04:34	indiancandy1	on tits 4 btc
04:35	indiancandy1	is brenda a trans
04:35	indiancandy1	hi brenda
04:35	indiancandy1	im shanti dynaite
04:35	indiancandy1	dynamite
04:35	brendafdez	awesome, pleased to meet you
04:36	brendafdez	it's not that hard just sign up here https://www.titsforbitcoin.com/modeljoin you need the Flash crap thing but you likely already have it
04:36	assbot	Model sign up - (t)it'sforbitcoin - Bitcoin cams. Live Bitcoin webcams. Watch and earn Bitcoin. Amateur girls on live cams accept Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cozfd6 )
04:37	cazalla	indiancandy1, is that really you?
04:37	brendafdez	I'm not paying anyone to do this things, so maybe you're right that mp is the only paying (even then, it could be a very good idea...), I'm just doing because I want the ecosystem to grow
04:38	brendafdez	who? the one whose nick is the answer to your question?
04:38	mircea_popescu	an ecosystem eh ?
04:38	fluffypony	he said, nonchalantly
04:38	mircea_popescu	lol
04:39	mircea_popescu	you should do all my voiceovers!
04:39	fluffypony	hah hah
04:40	indiancandy1	what do you mean
04:40	indiancandy1	you want the ecosystem to grow
04:40	indiancandy1	do you show your boobs for btc
04:40	indiancandy1	?
04:40	brendafdez	youst sign up already
04:40	indiancandy1	its small time money
04:40	brendafdez	it's fun
04:40	indiancandy1	what showing your breasts
04:40	indiancandy1	is fun?
04:41	indiancandy1	not when its a full time job
04:41	indiancandy1	my whole life consists of showing breasts
04:41	brendafdez	my full time job is feeding the scammers... therefore, an ecosystem
04:42	BingoBoingo	!b 6
04:42	assbot	Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1WGTE43.txt )
04:42	indiancandy1	you feed scammers?
04:42	indiancandy1	i dont get it
04:42	indiancandy1	sorry :(
04:43	indiancandy1	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnYLTFta8L4
04:43	assbot	Shanti Dynamite's Nude Yoga Stunt | Check Out - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoAc4Z )
04:43	indiancandy1	thats me
04:46	BingoBoingo	indiancandy1: Oh, you have a wikipedia page. Even MP's got deleted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Dynamite
04:46	assbot	Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoAybU )
04:46	indiancandy1	yea
04:46	indiancandy1	im famous
04:46	indiancandy1	and broke
04:46	indiancandy1	ahaha
04:46	indiancandy1	famous and broke
04:46	indiancandy1	such is life
04:46	indiancandy1	anyways im launching my adult site
04:46	indiancandy1	soon
04:46	cazalla	damn half greek eh, i'm not a fan of woggy girs
04:46	indiancandy1	to monetize
04:46	indiancandy1	whats woggy?
04:47	cazalla	;;ud wog
04:47	gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wog | By now it has greatly lost its sting, and many ethnic Australians have reclaimed it as a jocular term, with some cleverly riffing on it (e.g. 'clog wog' for a Dutchman, ...
04:47	indiancandy1	for a dutchman
04:47	indiancandy1	im not dutch
04:47	cazalla	nah, refer to aus english part, not british
04:47	cazalla	1. a non-Anglo-Celtic European, esp. from Southern or Eastern Europe (e.g. Greek, Italian, Balkan, Slavic, etc.)
04:48	indiancandy1	well
04:48	indiancandy1	i dont care about your preference
04:48	indiancandy1	to be honest
04:48	indiancandy1	im not tryna fuck you so ,.
04:48	indiancandy1	BANG
04:48	fluffypony	you're so cool
04:48	fluffypony	I wish I was as cool as you
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04:48	fluffypony	with your hardcore IDGAF attitude
04:49	fluffypony	#swag #yolo
04:49	cazalla	#selfie
04:49	Adlai	ʏᴏʟᴏ
04:50	Adlai	!up indiancandy1
04:50	fluffypony	2L33T4ME
04:50	indiancandy1	LOL
04:50	indiancandy1	:P
04:50	indiancandy1	#selfie
04:50	indiancandy1	#belfie
04:51	indiancandy1	anywaays
04:51	indiancandy1	brenda
04:51	brendafdez	yes?
04:53	indiancandy1	are you cashing in?
04:53	indiancandy1	on the tits thing
04:57	brendafdez	no, for me it was a very brief experiment. I only did it once, and made what at the time were some 8 dollars. Not bad for an hour of time or so. I didn't intend to cash in doing camshows, but I had several friends who did take it more seriously, and they made more money than they would have othrewise, for a very low effort, some customers just wanted to hear them talk. All this was a long time ago, I see less activity on the site th
04:57	brendafdez	ese days, but trying couldn't hurt.
04:57	indiancandy1	i did it i made 60dollars for 1pic
04:57	indiancandy1	but if you want to cam dont cam for btc there is not enough people that use btc for you to earn in cam
04:58	indiancandy1	if you want to cam for money im sure you can earn also as your trans you fit into a niche try mfc ?
04:58	indiancandy1	or even adultwork maybe best for you
04:58	indiancandy1	you could earn 2 to 3 thousand dollars a month from home
04:58	mircea_popescu	re "Kate of memset" << o boy we did her here, i recall.
04:59	mircea_popescu	!s kate
04:59	assbot	87 results for 'kate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kate
04:59	brendafdez	Also it youre on other websites like myfreecams, you can be on many at the same time. I don't want to cam, and if i did I would never market mysekf that way. I like aw. Ok, then if you earn that much great for you.
04:59	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/ etc
04:59	assbot	On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also mentioned. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bsy5b4 )
04:59	brendafdez	Anyway, I wasn't asking for advisse on how to market myself on cam sites, i thought it was you :P
05:00	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 dja make 2-3k ?
05:00	indiancandy1	dja?
05:00	mircea_popescu	do you
05:00	indiancandy1	i dont cam much
05:00	brendafdez	:D
05:00	indiancandy1	i just came back from india didnt i
05:00	indiancandy1	but before i did
05:00	indiancandy1	when i did full time
05:01	indiancandy1	well not full time you kno what i mean
05:01	indiancandy1	anyways im launching my site now and wil sell tease videos
05:02	mircea_popescu	orly ?
05:02	indiancandy1	and i wanna monetize on utube also as i see this videos on utube of me
05:02	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 you should talk to naphex if memory serves he was looking for models for a newsite.
05:02	indiancandy1	having like 500k hits just for cleavage etc
05:02	indiancandy1	where is he
05:02	mircea_popescu	;;seen naphex
05:02	gribble	naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Naphex> o/
05:02	mircea_popescu	well apparently he's disappeared o.O
05:03	mircea_popescu	probably getting fucked to death.
05:03	indiancandy1	huh
05:04	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054796 << http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/134654389322.png
05:04	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 08:04:27; brendafdez: such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late.
05:04	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1CoCvoA )
05:05	mircea_popescu	brendafdez so how did you get the idea you're really a dude ?
05:05	indiancandy1	huh
05:05	indiancandy1	i thought it was a male dressed as female
05:06	mircea_popescu	arguably.
05:06	brendafdez	dunno, they told me that i was male when they raised me, i thought they must know what they are saying...
05:06	BingoBoingo	!up Bagels7
05:07	mircea_popescu	oh im sorry. i meant to ask the other way.
05:07	mircea_popescu	shit's confusing.
05:07	mircea_popescu	so how did you get the idea you're really a broad ?
05:07	indiancandy1	omg mircea
05:07	brendafdez	shit's confusing
05:07	indiancandy1	i just remembered]
05:07	mircea_popescu	lol
05:08	indiancandy1	you know the adult tv show i work in
05:08	indiancandy1	basically they have a channel in romania
05:08	mircea_popescu	actually i don't, but go on.
05:08	indiancandy1	and the woman who runs it has the same surnma as you
05:08	indiancandy1	i was like i wonder if your related
05:08	mircea_popescu	haha, common enough.
05:08	mircea_popescu	sorta like patel.
05:08	indiancandy1	ohh
05:10	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054818 << actually i dun think i ever was there
05:10	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 08:34:55; indiancandy1: i thought mp was the only buyer
05:10	indiancandy1	?
05:10	indiancandy1	i thought it was you
05:11	mircea_popescu	check it out, she's got a wiki page an' errything : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Dynamite
05:11	assbot	Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoDm8S )
05:11	mircea_popescu	you're the woman now, bitch!
05:11	indiancandy1	sorry?
05:11	indiancandy1	you lost me here baby
05:11	mircea_popescu	"She has been adjudged as one of the 50 Sexiest Woman of Asia by British Newspaper Eastern Eye."
05:11	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 "you're the man now, dog" , aka ytmnd is this internet phenomenon
05:11	BingoBoingo	Also two movies coming out this year
05:12	mircea_popescu	in truth was big about the time you were 12.
05:12	indiancandy1	no
05:12	indiancandy1	thats bullshit
05:12	indiancandy1	ahah no movies :(
05:12	mircea_popescu	"Parents divorced at age of 9 years, so Sofia and mother move to London, UK It was hard settling in London it was cold and completely different to Africa. Sofia grew up in North West London and South West London in Brixton Angel Town one of the roughest areas in London. Sofia got into gang culture as a teenager and left school at 16 to join a hair and beauty school. Sofia grew up in low class area and her mother was wo
05:12	mircea_popescu	rking as a nurse but then salary did not cover living costs."
05:13	indiancandy1	why are you quoting my wiki page
05:13	mircea_popescu	check it out, she grew up rough in the streets of brixton!
05:13	BingoBoingo	indiancandy1: But IMDB said...
05:13	indiancandy1	i signed for them
05:13	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 i dunno, mildly interesting.
05:13	indiancandy1	but i had problems with directors
05:13	BingoBoingo	Ah
05:13	indiancandy1	so didnt end up shooting
05:13	indiancandy1	so im back to being broke and famous
05:13	indiancandy1	OL
05:13	mircea_popescu	wait, you didn't end up shooting or they didn't end shooting up ?
05:13	indiancandy1	lol
05:14	indiancandy1	we didnt start the film yo
05:15	mircea_popescu	aha.
05:15	indiancandy1	yes dear
05:15	indiancandy1	i filmed my twerk video alst week
05:15	mircea_popescu	any good ?
05:15	indiancandy1	im waiting to see the end rsults its in post production
05:15	indiancandy1	hope it goes viral
05:16	mircea_popescu	not unless you do something outright bizarre.
05:16	indiancandy1	no in india
05:16	indiancandy1	come on if you look at videos of my cleavage on utube hving 500k hits
05:16	indiancandy1	indians are thirsty
05:16	indiancandy1	and no indian has done twerk video before
05:17	mircea_popescu	ah, then it might catch.
05:17	mircea_popescu	it's so funny to me, all of east asia is pretty much one dick split up to two or even three men. india, right next to it... those dudes are reasonably hung.
05:18	mircea_popescu	i imagine sino-indian conflict over the state of the pussy is inevitable.
05:19	indiancandy1	now i dont want to ask how or why you know that kind of ino
05:19	indiancandy1	info**
05:19	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054880 << said he, pensively.
05:19	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 08:48:46; fluffypony: I wish I was as cool as you
05:19	fluffypony	hah hah
05:19	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 i have friends, they like to talk.
05:20	indiancandy1	about cock
05:20	indiancandy1	lovely
05:20	BingoBoingo	!up indiancandy1
05:20	mircea_popescu	brendafdez: Not bad for an hour of time or so. << whadda ya do for a living anyway ?
05:20	indiancandy1	whose got instagram yo?
05:21	mircea_popescu	preppy kids, mostly.
05:21	indiancandy1	LOL
05:23	mircea_popescu	speaking of india, http://41.media.tumblr.com/2902864e96efd3672927519344c4612b/tumblr_mp7j05z2jW1rrh4y4o1_1280.jpg
05:23	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1CoEUzC )
05:23	brendafdez	used to sell smuggled electronics. Then I thought I had money bc bitcoin, abandoned the former thing and pretended that I could succesfully work as a bitcoin broker, I made some good deals but all in all I was a very lame person in charge of my own business and it sucked. Now I realize I don't have money nor business, still a couple of bitcoins to go, but things aren't looking bright. Sucks.
05:25	mircea_popescu	worst comes to worst, arbolito or something hm ?
05:25	indiancandy1	used to sell smuggled electronics
05:26	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 argentines are worse than indians, i think the only law respected here is the law of gravity.
05:28	indiancandy1	can you bribe there?
05:28	mircea_popescu	sure.
05:28	indiancandy1	like in india you can bribe cops with small money
05:28	brendafdez	where can't you? but yes, i bet we're really bad re:law
05:29	BingoBoingo	Sounds awesome
05:29	brendafdez	You can bribe a cop with fifty pesos here, like 4 dollars
05:29	mircea_popescu	well it also depends what you're having him do.
05:29	brendafdez	in this case it was for crossing a red light
05:31	mircea_popescu	sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day
05:31	BingoBoingo	Here they'd beat you for a $50 bribe because insulting
05:31	brendafdez	i was with a friend, he sorted it out with the cop
05:31	indiancandy1	where do you live brenda
05:31	mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo it's really like old new york, no fucking body cares what the lights say.
05:31	brendafdez	buenos aires
05:32	davout	mircea_popescu: "sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day" <<< massive understatement, unless you mean jaywalk and get fined for it
05:32	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00032276 = 15.5409 BTC [+]
05:32	BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Ah. I'm also guessing there you don't get SWAT called for okra
05:32	mircea_popescu	davout no, just meant in caba
05:32	brendafdez	not jaywalking, he was driving a car
05:32	davout	ah
05:35	BingoBoingo	;;bc,stats
05:35	gribble	Current Blocks: 347971 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 796 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 5 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46579597406.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.7879
05:35	indiancandy1	mp is in bueno aires
05:36	mircea_popescu	so i heard.
05:37	brendafdez	most arbolitos work for a certain broker, i couldn't do that, I was my own market basically, i had money on btc-e and bitstamp and made there the trades i made with people here otc, like for instance, someone buys 5 btc, i buy 5 btc on bitstamp/btc-e, someone sells 2 btc i sell 2 btc. That was the theory, of course there was a spread and to me one year ago that soiunded like it could work, and sometimes it did, but there were many u
05:37	brendafdez	nplanned issues. Also form what arbolitos tell me, they can basically do the trade at 'the cave' basically at the same time if they don't have both buyer and seller, and they are running out of money on one end. But I couldn't do that, there were times when I would in fact run out of money in the exchanges and had trades which i took at my own risk, and that was a very bad thing.
05:37	mircea_popescu	brendafdez this because you're in principle against being an employee ?
05:38	brendafdez	i am not
05:38	mircea_popescu	so then ? of course you work for someone.
05:38	mircea_popescu	that's how you learn to stop sucking at being your own boss, among other things
05:38	mircea_popescu	such as, how to give killer blowjobs.
05:38	brendafdez	maybe...
05:38	indiancandy1	ahahah mp always have to include something naughty
05:39	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 defo. it's the new world! raunchy an' rude.
05:40	indiancandy1	lol
05:40	indiancandy1	my nipple is in agony
05:41	mircea_popescu	send it off to shovel snow.
05:42	indiancandy1	this peircing is such a ... dont even knw the word
05:44	Adlai	nagony!
05:48	davout	nipple piercing... thinking about it is already painful
05:48	indiancandy1	yea but its been almost 1year
05:48	indiancandy1	and the god damn thing aint healed yet
05:49	davout	do you to keep it that bad?
05:49	davout	*do you want to keep it that bad?
05:50	brendafdez	There was much less risk involved when I would sell shit, it was easier also, and besides I could bring many things via post shipments form DX, eBay and such (so I could many times spare the middle man), and it was just listing on MercadoLibre (local ebay equivalent), and most would sell, there wasn't much a way I could lose money, only it the thing didn't sell. I had to go and wait hours at customs, many times if the items weren't
05:50	brendafdez	expensive they would let me go without paying bc they had more interesting stuff going on with other people, i had to go to the post or bus station and make shippments. In hindsight those were the good times and doing it wasn't hard. Then I started dabbling with bitcoin, I had been reading the forums on and off since 2011, i was too stupid then [not that it has changed] and cpu solo mined, made nothing, didn't get the thing. Then I
05:50	brendafdez	bought some bitcoins via The Rock and VirWox with Linden Dollars, in the beggining of 2013, which was would seem a lucky move, but I wasn't able to do much with that.
05:50	*	Adlai startled to find himself converging upon http://flarelang.sourceforge.net/idioms.html#classes
05:50	assbot	Idioms of Flare ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoIAl6 )
05:51	Adlai	!up indiancandy1
05:51	indiancandy1	shal i invest in btc
05:51	*	Adlai !upped you for that?
05:51	brendafdez	I had a couple of opportunities to work for/with someone else but they didn't seem like a good deal, for instance one of the local brokers who was then dealing even lower amounts than I was and who wasn't an intersting person, and had a past of dealing substances ("knew the street") offered to start a business together. I rejected the offer, it seemed more risky and not the kind of people I'd want ot be associated with
05:51	davout	didn't you just say you were broke?
05:52	Adlai	indiancandy1: as mircea_popescu loves to say, bitcoin is a priviledge for those who can afford to throw away some money. mostly because you'll find yourself incredibly averse to spending them, once you realize their value
05:53	Adlai	even if the value goes up, and saner voices suggest selling for a profit... you'll want it to go highir!
05:53	indiancandy1	but i dont get the technical part though
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05:53	Adlai	which part of it?
05:54	kakobrekla	what room is this?
05:54	Adlai	(the technical side of bitcoin has several parts which solve different problems)
05:54	Adlai	kakobrekla: the sister advice to what i told indiancandy1 is that if you have any money to waste, waste it on btc :)
05:55	indiancandy1	i do have money to waiste
05:55	mircea_popescu	Adlai incredibly averse < experientia docent ? :)
05:55	indiancandy1	you should open a btc consultancy guys
05:55	Adlai	ja
05:56	brendafdez	either that or a rehab farm
05:56	mircea_popescu	<indiancandy1> and the god damn thing aint healed yet << nipple piercings are horribru for this reason.
05:56	Adlai	more like Assoholics Anonymous
05:56	BingoBoingo	!up cjc
05:56	kakobrekla	im not anon
05:57	BingoBoingo	^
05:57	cjc	thx
05:57	Adlai	Asscoholics WoTonymous
05:57	Adlai	sorry, wotonimous
05:57	mircea_popescu	only noobs are anon
05:57	Adlai	(when in venice, spell as the roma do)
05:57	mircea_popescu	brendafdez it wouldn't be that fat derp what's his face
05:58	indiancandy1	hahahaha
05:58	indiancandy1	i feel like im kinda addicted to come here
05:58	indiancandy1	as i have no work with btc
05:58	brendafdez	his face?
05:59	mircea_popescu	digicoins.io
05:59	mircea_popescu	dante something
06:00	brendafdez	can't confirm nor deny, not here at least. This offer happened in mid 2013, before the digicoins name was even invented :P
06:00	mircea_popescu	heh.
06:00	mircea_popescu	such a fucking derp.
06:00	BingoBoingo	indiancandy1: Could be worse. At least you aren't the start meth lab in the aisle at Walmart sort of addict.
06:00	BingoBoingo	;;google walmart methlab trend
06:00	gribble	Meth lab uncovered inside restroom at Indiana Walmart | Fox 59: <http://fox59.com/2015/03/13/meth-lab-uncovered-inside-restroom-at-indiana-walmart/>; Meth lab found inside Walmart restroom in Indiana | WGN-TV: <http://wgntv.com/2015/03/13/meth-lab-found-inside-walmart-restroom-in-indiana/>; You Can Find Anything at Walmart ... Even a Meth Lab: (1 more message)
06:01	indiancandy1	we dont have walmart here
06:01	mircea_popescu	it's asda all the way!
06:01	indiancandy1	omg you know!
06:01	mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/14705de95fdc4ce07244e95aea28981f/tumblr_n0yzsaTPDe1s0yaxoo1_1280.jpg << this is how walmart looks in yurp
06:01	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GQ9Nfz )
06:02	indiancandy1	im not into drugs
06:02	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform btw re pheasant phuckers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIu4fP4fOHE
06:02	assbot	Pinky and the Brain, Tongue Twister - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQa2av )
06:02	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 how come ?
06:03	indiancandy1	i prefer life sover
06:03	indiancandy1	sober
06:03	indiancandy1	i bet you get good cocaine in argentina
06:04	brendafdez	there's potential for regret about the things i'm saying here. Shit could end up hitting the fan, like it did with the cam thing.
06:04	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 so i hear.
06:04	mircea_popescu	brendafdez errything's logged.
06:05	brendafdez	yep
06:05	indiancandy1	do you dabble?
06:05	mircea_popescu	nah
06:05	mircea_popescu	im too rich to do drugs.
06:05	brendafdez	when will we have an oficial b-a miranda warning?
06:05	indiancandy1	not quite
06:05	indiancandy1	most rich people do drugs
06:05	indiancandy1	maybe rich in life :)
06:05	mircea_popescu	nah. that's poor people trying to see what it's like.
06:05	indiancandy1	to happy to need it
06:06	indiancandy1	im rich in life
06:06	indiancandy1	to do drugs
06:06	mircea_popescu	tits ?
06:06	BingoBoingo	The drugs thing and the bitcoin thing especially don't mix well
06:06	cjc	I surmised the ancient Egyptians had monoatomic gold which they snorted and ate --
06:06	cjc	and it increased the electromagnetic conductivity of their body system by 10,000 percent
06:06	cjc	that must have been like a drug
06:06	cjc	building the pyramids with their minds
06:07	mircea_popescu	o.O
06:07	mircea_popescu	superconducting pharoh.
06:07	cjc	yeah, monoatomic gold is a white powder not a metal
06:08	*	mircea_popescu looks through the logs, sees two womenz going "omfg you know" about wildly unrelated shit within the next 10 minutes
06:08	*	mircea_popescu figures he's getting a good deal on that intel dept.
06:09	brendafdez	;)
06:09	Adlai	brendafdez: we call it the robert paulsen effect
06:10	Adlai	!s robert
06:10	assbot	106 results for 'robert' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert
06:10	mircea_popescu	i thoughjt it was the hungarian spammer effect, robert vigh or w/e it was
06:10	Adlai	;;google robert paulsen
06:10	gribble	Rob Paulsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Paulsen>; His Name is Robert Paulson - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCi_PIz5ekU>; Rob Paulsen - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0667326/>
06:11	Adlai	youtube fixed my typo
06:12	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97300 @ 0.00032713 = 31.8297 BTC [+] {4}
06:12	Adlai	hah search.b-a is 3rd on google results for his name
06:12	mircea_popescu	!s robert viragh
06:12	assbot	9 results for 'robert viragh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert+viragh
06:12	brendafdez	i always think being the intel asset is a bad deal, for said asset that it. There always comes a point in which using that information is worth more than keeping the source.
06:13	mircea_popescu	this is an argument similar to "there always comes a point when a trusted party runs with the money"
06:13	mircea_popescu	this is not actually how life works.
06:13	brendafdez	thanks for pointing it out
06:13	Adlai	no, this is actually how cancer works
06:13	mircea_popescu	quite
06:14	mircea_popescu	for that matter, people who think in simple money terms end up outsourcing their industrial base to china and then wondering where the country went.
06:15	mircea_popescu	water is perhaps the best example of strict local optimizer. the water in your cup, much like the water in the hydroplant lake, would very much like to go lower, however... for lack of a direct path, there it stays.
06:15	mircea_popescu	easy to manipulate, easy to defeat. poor strat.
06:17	Adlai	water doesn't have a 'strategy' though, same way that corn didn't plan to enslave monkeys to grow more of it
06:18	mircea_popescu	well, it could be deemed to have a strategy , reducing to "pursue the shortest term maximal gain"
06:19	mircea_popescu	obviously this is not philosophically correct, but for our purpose here imo sufficient
06:19	Adlai	this is reducing the word 'strategy' to the same level as 'mobile strategy', 'social strategy', 'cloud strategy', etc
06:20	mircea_popescu	right
06:20	mircea_popescu	but this reduction is adequate given what's being contemplated here.
06:21	mircea_popescu	!up indiancandy1
06:24	cazalla	http://www.xvideos.com/video6597817/shanti_sofia_redlightcentral_10.12.2013
06:24	assbot	Shanti Sofia RedLightCentral 10.12.2013 - XVIDEOS.COM ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQf9HC )
06:25	brendafdez	youtube-dl was the key to finally going flash-free, such a handy tool
06:25	mircea_popescu	cazalla anything good ?
06:26	cazalla	doesn't even remove knickers..
06:26	cazalla	such a tease, but never delivers the goods
06:27	cazalla	don't mind the darker areola, but that's on account pinks are in oversupply down under
06:27	mircea_popescu	isn't it unpatriotic to rub it to unenglish roses ?!
06:27	mircea_popescu	what'd the queen say!
06:28	cazalla	sif she hasn't had her way with the nigro garden over the years
06:28	cazalla	gardener even
06:29	mircea_popescu	;;ud sif
06:29	gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SIF | The SIF is quite adept at hiding his or her fat on the Internet. Usually a LiveJournal or MySpace user, they use Photoshop, high-constrast photos, and strategic ...
06:29	mircea_popescu	hm
06:29	cazalla	sif = as if
06:29	cazalla	perhaps australian thing, sif i'd know
06:31	brendafdez	cazalla, are you the guy i should contact if i want to steal from qntra?
06:32	cazalla	steal what? content?
06:32	brendafdez	yep :P
06:32	brendafdez	I've been translating a couple of articles http://brendafernandez.com/?s=qntra just three of them, not the press release with the cat poooping, for sure
06:32	assbot	qntra | Search Results | Brenda Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQgOgi )
06:32	cazalla	i would rather you didn't, but i'm not the type to play whack a mole by sending dmca takedowns
06:33	brendafdez	ok, just that, then i won't do it
06:33	brendafdez	just those three
06:33	cazalla	if you stick around, there is no reason why you couldn't write for qntra itself
06:33	brendafdez	but i like writing in spanish
06:34	brendafdez	if there aren't many sane voices in the english bitcoin space, imagine what it's like in spanish-land
06:35	cazalla	that's ok, perhaps we set you up as the spanish correspondent
06:35	mircea_popescu	it's a news site tho. i dun see it'd damage anything if she translates to spanish, provided something reasonable like say articles are a week old.
06:35	Adlai	there is also no reason why qntra qldn't issue shares for translations
06:35	brendafdez	so, qntra translations seemed cool :P, i atributed them, of course, but i know that's technically not enough
06:35	cazalla	mircea_popescu, i thought she meant copy/pasta word for word, english to spanish, i wouldn't have known unless she said so anyway
06:36	mircea_popescu	well if it's english to spanish it's necessarily not word for word, they use different words en castellan
06:36	Adlai	why not have language sections on qntra, with some lesser share issuence for translations?
06:36	mircea_popescu	Adlai because of the can of worms that "lesser share" opens
06:37	cazalla	if qntra were to ever publish in another language, chinesey and spanish would be the top 2 imo
06:37	mircea_popescu	prolly, yea
06:38	mircea_popescu	it is a huge language space, even if atm bitcoin poor.
06:38	Adlai	the only can opener in town belongs to qntra's editor in chief
06:38	mircea_popescu	Adlai nah, this is equity.
06:38	Adlai	ok, to the board, and they can put it to shareholder vote
06:38	Adlai	3.2e
06:38	cazalla	brendafdez, anyway i only ask you refrain from reposting english articles, if you wish to translate ones to spanish, go for it but as mircea_popescu, perhaps give our own articles some time before doing so
06:38	mircea_popescu	shares don't vote, but anyway.
06:38	Adlai	http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.QNTR 3.2e !
06:39	assbot	S.QNTR last 9477@0.00021105 ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqVdxC )
06:39	mircea_popescu	(e) S.QNTR shares do not have voting rights. ?
06:39	cazalla	as he said i meant to say (i'm tired)
06:40	*	Adlai is baffled by this discouragement of widening the audience
06:40	mircea_popescu	how's anything discouraged!
06:43	cazalla	hardly discouraged, a writer would earn a good amount of s.qntr translating our english articles
06:44	mircea_popescu	yeah, brendafdez why not do it directly for qntra ? you got a gpg id now and errything
06:44	mircea_popescu	cazalla does she get half share for translation or what ?
06:45	cazalla	indiancandy1, looks like you were upstaged by another indian named baby doll? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1c7hx6_baby-doll-is-a-copy-of-shanti-dynamite_shortfilms
06:45	assbot	BABY Doll is a Copy of Shanti Dynamite - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQjsCZ )
06:45	cazalla	mircea_popescu, to be discussed i guess
06:46	brendafdez	doing it directly for qntra would certainly be even better than just having permission to keep doing it on my own
06:46	mircea_popescu	brendafdez for that matter, you're fluent enough in english, can write news in english too
06:46	mircea_popescu	iirc cazalla was always short hands
06:47	brendafdez	but i don't like english ;) just wait until I've spent a few more btc and then I'll take anything :D
06:47	cazalla	bwahaa "The hot and sensuous Playboy host Shanti Dynamite has become the first Indian to get her nipples pierced and has thus created history."
06:47	mircea_popescu	last guy that liked english lived in like 1890
06:47	mircea_popescu	is that even true indiancandy1 ?!
06:48	mircea_popescu	i thought india fucking invented piercing, spread to arabs from there.
06:48	cazalla	http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1x96xc_shanti-dynamite-s-painful-piercing-exclusive-coverage_news
06:48	assbot	Shanti Dynamite's Painful Piercing - Exclusive Coverage - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQk4bL )
06:48	indiancandy1	wasim shower
06:48	indiancandy1	was in shower
06:48	indiancandy1	what happened
06:48	mircea_popescu	there's worse places.
06:49	indiancandy1	lol
06:50	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 so are you earning 0.1 btc with your tits that made history yet ?
06:50	indiancandy1	whats 0.1
06:50	mircea_popescu	i dunno, like 30 bux
06:51	indiancandy1	i make more babes
06:51	indiancandy1	come on
06:51	mircea_popescu	aww
06:51	mircea_popescu	i guess gotta wait for btc to go up moar.
06:52	mircea_popescu	!up indiancandy1
06:52	indiancandy1	i dont use btc
06:52	indiancandy1	for work
06:53	Adlai	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055074 << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-w7SnQWwVA
06:53	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 09:53:29; indiancandy1: but i dont get the technical part though
06:53	assbot	Bitcoin - Overview - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQl2EK )
06:55	indiancandy1	i mean like if i buy bitcoin
06:55	indiancandy1	i gota constantly watch it and stuff i dont even know how to count just about
06:55	indiancandy1	so if i cant count normal numbers cant surely cant btc
06:55	mircea_popescu	you don;'t have to watch it, think of it as your retirement.
06:55	mircea_popescu	what you gonna do when you're old ?
06:55	indiancandy1	no clue
06:55	cazalla	she's gonna be a young starlet forever!
06:56	indiancandy1	ahaha never
06:56	mircea_popescu	lol
06:56	Adlai	well, you do need to watch out that you don't use bad security practices; the equivalent of not leaving wads of cash lying around in a busy restaurant when you go to the bathroom
06:56	indiancandy1	this guy who has a tv show on sahara 1 called kismat connections
06:56	indiancandy1	basically a fotune teller type neurology fellow
06:56	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 lemme show you something. http://trilema.com/2013/various-kinds-of-stickiness/#comment-112932 << bunch of dumb cocksuckers on a stripper forum were offered 1 btc free in 2012, wouldn't take it. was >1000 dollars.
06:56	assbot	Various kinds of stickiness pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqXrwO )
06:56	indiancandy1	told me i will have to overcome major obstacles but i will be succesful
06:56	Adlai	but if you've used good security initially, you don't need to "watch over" your bitcoin
06:56	brendafdez	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYSEwwOt_ic
06:56	assbot	No One Understands Bitcoins [Garlic Jackson Comedy] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqXtVy )
06:57	mircea_popescu	today's 0.1 btc may well be a fortune in a few years.
06:57	Adlai	brendafdez: hey now, i linked the 10min khanacademy, not the five-hours-and-counting princeton lectures
06:57	indiancandy1	the girls vagina on the left looks like a donner kebab
06:57	indiancandy1	to much meat going on
06:57	brendafdez	(:
06:57	cazalla	i don't mind that indiancandy1 :)
06:57	indiancandy1	mircea you look like lincoln
06:57	indiancandy1	in ur pic
06:58	cazalla	media might have you believe its men pushing women into labiaplasty but there you go, proof positive it's other bitches
06:58	indiancandy1	i read something about a 13 yr old not being laid
06:59	indiancandy1	wtf who condones such shit
06:59	mircea_popescu	indiancandy1 i was going more for lenin
06:59	indiancandy1	it has a flower
06:59	indiancandy1	growing in between her legs
06:59	indiancandy1	creature
06:59	indiancandy1	growler
06:59	indiancandy1	O GOD
07:00	mircea_popescu	you been showering in whiskey hon ?
07:00	cazalla	just the thought eh BingoBoingo
07:00	mircea_popescu	cazalla try it sometime, drink champagne offa da twists.
07:01	cazalla	;;ud twists
07:01	gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twist | twist. a derogatory term used for someone who gets their kicks by playing mind games or toys with people's hearts. So she lead me on and then told me she was  ...
07:01	mircea_popescu	nah, irish for chick. like bird, ride is english for same.
07:01	cazalla	akay
07:01	indiancandy1	lmao
07:01	indiancandy1	i like ur dress sense mp
07:02	mircea_popescu	and ironically, cunt = guy.
07:02	mircea_popescu	why ty.
07:02	indiancandy1	cunt means pussy
07:02	mircea_popescu	nah.
07:02	cazalla	mircea_popescu, yeah we use cunt here often
07:02	mircea_popescu	;;google bigby was a hard cunt, but he wasn;t hard enough he didn't shit it at the thought of 20 years in gaol.
07:02	gribble	Trainspotting (1996) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117951/quotes>; Previously On: The Wolf Among Us - "Cry Wolf" - Giant Bomb: <http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/the-wolf-among-us-242094/previously-on-the-wolf-among-us-cry-wolf-1489157/>; To all the people who shot ***** - Telltale Community - Telltale Games: (1 more message)
07:02	cazalla	hence http://www.quickmeme.com/img/df/df1550588e4f322cdd9de8ab8c8d942f3616c06ab06764d7219734294389450b.jpg
07:02	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GQn7kf )
07:03	davout	cazalla: lol
07:03	davout	such downunderness
07:03	indiancandy1	mp you should invest in me
07:03	indiancandy1	:)
07:04	cazalla	apparently cunt is quite offensive in the us
07:04	indiancandy1	btw did you watch 50shades
07:04	mircea_popescu	but your best assets are goingdown not up.
07:04	mircea_popescu	nah.
07:05	indiancandy1	aahahah
07:05	indiancandy1	u got jokes
07:05	mircea_popescu	:)
07:05	mircea_popescu	cazalla only to pussies.
07:06	indiancandy1	cunt is very british
07:06	indiancandy1	word
07:07	mircea_popescu	alrighty cuties, i'll be off to go watch 50 shades of gray live.
07:07	indiancandy1	ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
07:07	indiancandy1	where my invite
07:08	indiancandy1	take pics
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07:26	davout	for my fellow dutch speakers http://i47.tinypic.com/15mdagw.jpg
07:26	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GQtcgl )
07:27	brendafdez	doesn't the throat suffer from speaking dutch all day?
07:30	davout	:D
07:31	davout	i speakk french all day, kind of ashamed of my dutch atm
07:35	brendafdez	back before i lost my German to rust, i would hear people speak dutch and it felt like the broken dialect of those who couldn't speak with the mouth
07:36	brendafdez	the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish
07:37	davout	yeah, to me a german speaker sounds like a dutch speaker on cocaine
07:38	brendafdez	interesting stuff
07:39	brendafdez	cocaine, i mean
07:41	davout	lol
07:42	davout	does anyone here have stable nodes that I can add in my bitcoin.conf?
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08:10	danielpbarron	height=283309 vs height=211544
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08:42	danielpbarron	;;later tell mod6 http://danielpbarron.com/auto-static-v0_0_5.txt << what's that thing you want me to do? I commented out "strip bitcoind"
08:42	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1bdnoUM )
08:42	gribble	The operation succeeded.
08:42	chetty	http://venturevillage.eu/curiosity-and-ignorance
08:42	assbot	Curiosity and Ignorance (Or – Why expat life appeals to your inner child) ... ( http://bit.ly/1bdnn2V )
08:52	danielpbarron	!up shinohai
08:59	shinohai	ty danielpbarron. how goes it in the land of #bitcoin-assets
09:07	danielpbarron	it goes alright
09:07	danielpbarron	what brings you here?
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09:23	danielpbarron	!up shinohai
09:24	shinohai	I lurk in here from time to time and read logs. Good community fr me to stay informed regarding bitcoin.
09:38	Adlai	better open your mouth and be corrected an idiot, than remain silent and drift about
09:47	shinohai	lol true.
09:48	shinohai	i am a bit of a bitcoin purist
09:50	kakobrekla	altcryptoextremist? allah akbar!
09:51	shinohai	I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.
09:58	danielpbarron	!up shinohai
10:01	danielpbarron	shinohai, are you familiar with GPG?
10:03	chetty	<shinohai> I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world
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10:30	nubbins`	chetty also more "if it's broke, fix it" people needed
10:30	nubbins`	man, that's a good cup of coffee.
10:33	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00030874 = 8.5212 BTC [-]
10:40	mod6	danielpbarron: hi, so it looks like you built OpenSSL, BDB and Boost I'm guessing by the look of that log file? Now it looks like you need to compile bitcoin v0.5.3.1
10:41	mod6	What arch are you on x32|x64?
10:42	mod6	Anyway, if x32 ( I remember this had problems last week ) I'd be awesome if you could execute: `readelf --dynamic bitcoin/src/bitcoind`, but you have to have bitcoind built first.
10:42	mod6	s/I'd/It'd/
10:43	danielpbarron	that was the auto.sh thing
10:43	mod6	Sorry?
10:43	danielpbarron	the one linked on the front page of the foundation
10:43	mod6	I still don't follow.
10:44	mod6	Yeah, I linked the auto.sh script (v0.0.5) + signature to the website.
10:45	mod6	oh, I see what you did. heheh. Yeah, you need to have a directory of patched v0.5.3.1 source in 'bitcoin' first.
10:45	mod6	then place auto.sh in the same directory as 'bitcoin', then execute.
10:45	nubbins`	is this an arm cross-compile on x(32/64)?
10:45	mod6	nubbins`: no.
10:45	nubbins`	k
10:45	*	nubbins` wanders
10:45	mod6	v0.5.3.1-release is going to be x64 linux only.
10:46	nubbins`	proper thing
10:46	mod6	anyway, i'm in the process for rolling this release, so part of what I'm doing is putting the scripts required to build (such as auto.sh) on the website for reference.
10:46	nubbins`	i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
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10:47	nubbins`	well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
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10:47	mod6	*nod*, yeah i truthfully don't know much about the entire pogo thing.
10:47	nubbins`	if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat
10:48	nubbins`	binutils really doesn't like clang
10:48	mod6	<+kakobrekla> altcryptoextremist? allah akbar! << lol
10:50	mod6	danielpbarron: so yeah, some extra instructions up there probably would have helped huh. i'll de-link those later.
10:50	mod6	i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess.
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10:50	mod6	turns out, lol, that's not true.
10:52	mod6	the release tarball will end up being linked up there. and the containing RELEASE_NOTES.txt file will point to the patch/script tarballs up there just so they're availble individually somewhere.
10:52	mod6	speaking of which, with any luck, I might have RC1 rolled by late tonight.
10:53	mod6	it'd would be cool, when i give you guys a link, if you could pull it down, and build it. (if you have a linux x64 machine, if not, don't bother)
10:55	nubbins`	i'll try it here just for badness
11:00	mod6	sweet nubbins`, thanks.
11:00	nubbins`	np
11:00	mod6	could be tonight, tomorrow on MPEx's birthday at the latest.
11:01	thestringpuller	mod6: is going to be x64 linux only << Why you disenfranchising 32bit users!
11:01	nubbins`	may not be linux but it's still POSIX compliant 8)
11:02	nubbins`	since 10.6! i had no idea)
11:02	mod6	for some reason, the only person built it on x32, and it didn't work. and I don't have time to work on that.
11:02	mod6	patches are welcome if you want to work on that.
11:02	mod6	otherwise that'll be available at a later time.
11:02	danielpbarron	why does everyone have 64 now?
11:04	mod6	bah. *only one person built it on x32
11:05	nubbins`	danielpbarron 'cos it's 2015 :/
11:06	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45282 @ 0.00031566 = 14.2937 BTC [+]
11:07	mod6	anyway, it certainly is a goal to support x32. it'll just be in the next release. this has been dragging out too long.
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11:07	mod6	need to get this one wrapped up.
11:07	nubbins`	^
11:07	nubbins`	finish making the suit before you hem the pants
11:08	mod6	*nod* and as previously discussed, we'll be doing shorter release cycles going forward. none of this 4.5 month type stuff if possible.
11:09	mod6	bottom line here is, we don't wanna paint ourselves into a corner. so we're going to work towards shorter releases.
11:15	nubbins`	early/often is the way to go
11:26	asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rage-of-cultural-elites.html << [guest article] mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
11:26	assbot	ClubOrlov: The Rage of the Cultural Elites ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrL2Jb )
11:26	gribble	Error: "guest" is not a valid command.
11:27	asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rage-of-cultural-elites.html << (guest article) mega-l0l on 'colour revolutions', 'orcs vs humans' dynamic, zombie hordes of victoria nulands, and other joys of modern geodiddlomatics and usgmancy
11:27	assbot	ClubOrlov: The Rage of the Cultural Elites ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrLas1 )
11:27	gribble	The operation succeeded.
11:29	asciilifeform	'The Victoria Nuland clone army, like a cruel, evil, insidious high school rumor, like the reflection of a witch’s face in a polluted river, spread and flew into every crevice and corner of this land, high and low, far and wide. We encounter her avatars and lookalikes everywhere—in Hollywood, in the publishing houses, universities, school boards, kindergartens, in elevators on the way to our offices, and of course, on the
11:29	asciilifeform	pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times.'
11:31	chetty	G4 magnetic storm for you guys in the northern Hemi, might want to unplug anything that doesnt have a surge protector
11:32	asciilifeform	100% inverter-power here (the mains current in this town is, well, soviet-grade)
11:34	chetty	somehow I knew asciilifeform would be fully ready :D
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11:55	nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990074.msg10802175#msg10802175
11:55	assbot	CanaryInTheMine is further abusing the trust system [Edit] ... ( http://bit.ly/1GRCUz4 )
11:55	nubbins`	hay look mircea_popescu got paraphrased
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11:57	*	thestringpuller refreshes contravex
12:03	pete_dushenski	thestringpuller: lol working on it ;)
12:04	pete_dushenski	cobbling through my plane ride notes
12:05	pete_dushenski	;;later tell mircea_popescu how could i miss that nice argentinean girl's flattering translation ?
12:05	gribble	The operation succeeded.
12:14	thestringpuller	pete_dushenski: back in canadia-land?
12:26	pete_dushenski	thestringpuller: indeed!
12:26	pete_dushenski	and a little more tanned than usual
12:26	pete_dushenski	i'm not much for the beach
12:27	pete_dushenski	but the hotel had a couple of tennis courts and the head pro was a beauty so i played with him for a few hours here and there
12:27	pete_dushenski	he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy !
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12:28	pete_dushenski	i'd never had a ball boy before and it. was. sweet.
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12:29	pete_dushenski	desmond brown was the name of the pro
12:29	thestringpuller	lol i have a few jamaican coworkers
12:30	thestringpuller	i constantly troll them cause they write Visual C#
12:30	pete_dushenski	i'd almost go back just to hang out with him
12:30	pete_dushenski	thestringpuller: lol those rastas!
12:30	thestringpuller	were you there on spring breaka
12:30	pete_dushenski	sorta kinda but really more just a(nother) trip
12:31	pete_dushenski	i'm not in school
12:31	thestringpuller	pete_dushenski: retired traveller
12:31	thestringpuller	lol
12:31	pete_dushenski	only semi!
12:32	pete_dushenski	there's quite the jamaican diaspora
12:32	pete_dushenski	here it's nurses, some places i guess it's coders
12:32	pete_dushenski	thestringpuller: where do you live again ?
12:33	pete_dushenski	all i remember is somewhere in usia
12:33	pete_dushenski	the interesting part of the jamaican diaspora is that... they go back after a few decades!
12:34	pete_dushenski	strangest diaspora i ever did hear of
12:36	thestringpuller	i live in the lost city of Atlanta
12:36	pete_dushenski	;;later tell peterl as if scoopbot's continued ignorance of contravex weren't enough... " Warning: file_get_contents(http://bablogs.btcscoop.com/blogroll.cgi) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 504 Gateway Time-out in /home/btcscoop/public_html/bablogs/index.php on line 8" on bablogs.btcscoop.com
12:36	gribble	The operation succeeded.
12:37	pete_dushenski	thestringpuller: ah yes, ty
12:37	thestringpuller	oh wow the scoop is down!
12:37	pete_dushenski	mya
12:40	thestringpuller	alright pete_dushenski I will talk to you soon. I'm off to brave the traffic for lunch.
12:40	thestringpuller	i'll keep refreshing contravex ;)
12:40	pete_dushenski	cheers mate!
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13:18	nubbins`	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z8j78/i_introduced_bitcoin_to_a_room_full_of_people_and/
13:18	assbot	I introduced Bitcoin to a room full of people and was applauded : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/19wnLsM )
13:18	nubbins`	no need to click, all relevant info in page title.
13:19	nubbins`	FWIW, 541 upvotes
13:19	nubbins`	"You're doing a great service to this community. Thank you."
13:22	pete_dushenski	"Bitcoin can power the Internet of Things (IoT). Vending machines could order their own new merchandise, replacement parts, etc. Self-driving cars could pay for faster lanes, toll roads, etc. to speed up your trip (borrowed that idea from a Winklevoss talk)." << goodness gracious
13:23	pete_dushenski	"Everything is tiny in the grand scheme!" << hey, reddit commenter understands his own impotence. progress!
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13:40	davout	http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/someone-did-a-shit-so-bad-a-british-airways-flight-had-to-turn-around-and-land-475
13:40	assbot	Someone On a British Airways Plane Took a Shit So Bad That It Had to Turn Around and Come Back Again | VICE | Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/19wrpD4 )
13:46	ben_vulpes	thestringpuller: brave the traffic for lunch?
13:46	ben_vulpes	cars are just such a bad idea.
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14:14	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41150 @ 0.00032681 = 13.4482 BTC [+]
14:25	Adlai	who are the golang fanboys here? artifexd etal, anyoya read CSP or some of the descendant literature?
14:29	pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/17/primitivity-and-advancement/
14:29	assbot	Primitivity and advancement. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gk7wJI )
14:32	pete_dushenski	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPIvqJsCOSo << wences
14:32	assbot	Bitcoin: The New Gold Standard - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lpl3pK )
14:32	Adlai	pete_dushenski: what's that mural
14:33	pete_dushenski	it's in melbourne at the central train terminal
14:33	pete_dushenski	flinders street railway station
14:34	pete_dushenski	opened in 1854 though the mural is a newer addition
14:38	*	Adlai likes it, too bad it's in foster's hellhole
14:39	pete_dushenski	like foster the beer ? or...
14:39	Adlai	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster%27s_rule
14:39	assbot	Foster's rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpodK8 )
14:40	pete_dushenski	"he proposed the simple explanation that smaller creatures get larger when predation pressure is relaxed (due to the absence of some of the predators of the mainland) and larger creatures become smaller when food resources are limited (due to land area constraints)."
14:41	Adlai	except in the case of australia, where everything gets larger
14:41	Adlai	thus - hellhole.
14:41	pete_dushenski	eh not sure i buy this "rule"
14:42	Adlai	good thing it's not for sale!
14:42	pete_dushenski	no doubt that oz has some large spiders and whatnot
14:42	Adlai	fwiw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism#Examples
14:42	assbot	Island gigantism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LppReN )
14:43	Adlai	this is a "rule" in the same sense that evolution is "more than just a theory"
14:43	Adlai	simplest known explanation for the observed facts
14:44	pete_dushenski	why grow larger when predation pressure is reduced though ?
14:44	pete_dushenski	why not just multiply in greater numbers ?
14:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 100 @ 0.04000001 = 4 BTC [-] {5}
14:44	pete_dushenski	dinosaurs were freaking enormous and had plenty of predation pressures
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14:45	pete_dushenski	it seems to me that diversity and complexity explain smaller animals
14:46	pete_dushenski	that is, more diversity and complexity in an environment will lead to smaller, more nimble animals with shorter gestations
14:46	Adlai	it's an adjustment of the available organisms to the available niches
14:46	Adlai	you don't always get larger animals, foster's rule just talks about _change_
14:47	Adlai	although a medium predator which migrates to a new land where it's the largest predator will find little resistance in becoming a stronger, larger, etc predator (up to a point, but that point will be larger than its current size)
14:47	pete_dushenski	you might see more diversity in the new environment but why larger and stronger ?
14:48	pete_dushenski	it's already large and strong enough to be top dog
14:48	pete_dushenski	it'd be expensive to support a larger organism and might crush the supporting food web
14:48	Adlai	these fresh arrivals came from a place where they experienced downwards pressure from larger predators
14:48	pete_dushenski	right
14:49	pete_dushenski	and now they're in a new environment without said pressures
14:49	Adlai	their size upon arrival is already the product of those expenses, but together with additional competition from larger animals, forcing them further down
14:49	pete_dushenski	maybe down in numbers but why also down in size ?
14:50	pete_dushenski	why aren't there then mini-zebras roaming the serengetti
14:50	Adlai	smaller organisms are more efficient
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14:50	Adlai	... up to a point
14:50	Adlai	(muscle power varies by the cross-sectional area, but the weight it must move varies by the volume)
14:51	Adlai	in general though these are all nonlinear advantages, and their nonlinearity varies among ecosystems
14:52	pete_dushenski	granted
14:52	chetty	<<< still wonders how dinosaurs even walked ...wouldn't they need steel bones to hold up all that mass?
14:52	Adlai	slowly.
14:53	Adlai	the ones that ran - velocipator, orinthomimus - weren't larger than say a stallion
14:53	mircea_popescu	^
14:53	mircea_popescu	and for good reason, too.
14:53	mircea_popescu	mostly to do with cooling.
14:54	pete_dushenski	ya, i don't suppose dinos sweated
14:56	mircea_popescu	nope. reptiles generally work on the principle of the wound spring in more than one respect.
14:56	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ironically enough, i consider myself cultural elites. cause if not that, wtf else.
14:57	mircea_popescu	i get it that everyone everywhere, say the derps on argentina, or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit.
14:57	mircea_popescu	but for one thing it's bullshit and for the other thing, it doesn't really wash.
14:57	pete_dushenski	reptiles: springs, mammals: internal combustion
14:58	mircea_popescu	workable analogy imo.
14:58	pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "foster's rule" thing ?
14:59	mircea_popescu	seems to fit the data.
15:00	pete_dushenski	hm ok, i'll take
15:00	pete_dushenski	"Compliance startup Chainalysis was forced to defend itself today after allegations its surveillance tactics had disrupted services and threatened the privacy of bitcoin users.
15:00	pete_dushenski	The Swiss company, headed by ex-Kraken COO Michael Grønager and former Mycelium engineer Jan Møller, created over 250 'false' bitcoin nodes to harvest information on the whereabouts of transactions. The firm claims these nodes have now been shut down."
15:01	mircea_popescu	heh.
15:01	pete_dushenski	^cazalla BingoBoingo thestringpuller
15:01	mircea_popescu	"we got better at hiding them nao"
15:01	pete_dushenski	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=978088.msg10771025#msg10771025
15:01	assbot	Is someone monitoring large parts of the network? (evidence+firwall rules) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpyBl9 )
15:01	mircea_popescu	really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible.
15:02	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform : "It so happened that my aunt, then a sensitive and somewhat dreamy young woman, had stubbornly and haplessly clung to certain musical tastes which at that time in China came to be regarded as politically incorrect, being said, in the trendy ideological jargon of that time, to reflect “decadent bourgeois revisionist aesthetics.” To wit, my aunt had kept in her record collection a rendition of “The
15:02	mircea_popescu	Urals Mountain-Ash” (Уральская Рябинушка), a Russian folk song in which a young girl meets two nice boys under a mountain-ash tree and must choose between them"
15:02	mircea_popescu	i agree with the chinese. the part where the young girl chooses is utterly burgeois, and the part where a choice is made is definitely reactionary.
15:04	pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: have nodes always been "visible" ?
15:05	mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski not the point. the point is that if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node.
15:05	mircea_popescu	these were fucking broken, mostly because the "Swiss company" is a bunch of poor ass niggards with delusions of grandeur.
15:06	mircea_popescu	"in 1972, which culminated in Nixon's historic handshake with Mao Zedong, completing China's civilizational pivot away from the USSR and toward the west. In hindsight, this dramatic opening could only be properly characterized as a swift dagger-in-the-back against the USSR"
15:06	mircea_popescu	motherfucker, these ignorant clods. asciilifeform srsly, cluborlov is this collection of almanach-educated twerps.
15:06	nubbins`	niggards!
15:07	nubbins`	that's more germanic of you than usual
15:07	mircea_popescu	;;google niggardly
15:07	gribble	Controversies about the word "niggardly" - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22>; Urban Dictionary: niggardly: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggardly>; Niggardly - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niggardly>
15:07	mircea_popescu	i guess swedish counts as german.
15:07	pete_dushenski	such controversy
15:07	mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski no but it is typical of what i'm talking about.
15:08	mircea_popescu	some people who don't own a dictionary got opinions about the usage of words.
15:08	mircea_popescu	some people who don't own a history book gather on a blogspot to emit nonsense.
15:08	mircea_popescu	same principle.
15:08	pete_dushenski	likewise, some people who don't own a bitcoin gather around a reddit to imagine they matter
15:08	mircea_popescu	and on and on and fucking on it goes!
15:09	nubbins`	again:
15:09	nubbins`	http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z8j78/i_introduced_bitcoin_to_a_room_full_of_people_and/
15:09	assbot	I introduced Bitcoin to a room full of people and was applauded : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpCdnn )
15:09	mircea_popescu	virgins experts in dating, dependent adolescents experts in "making money", otakus writing books on how to meet and influence people, etc etc etc.
15:09	pete_dushenski	only the cultists see the light eh
15:10	pete_dushenski	nubbins`: once was enough
15:10	nubbins`	nevermind that this is not evidence of the awesomeness of bitcoin, but of the fact that the audience was at least feigning politeness
15:10	Adlai	mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "what's your take" thing?
15:10	mircea_popescu	nubbins` clearly if he was applauded by a whole roomfull of people he's not a total failure.
15:10	nubbins`	right?
15:10	nubbins`	ultimate validation
15:10	mircea_popescu	Adlai i dunno.
15:10	nubbins`	he probably took a bow
15:11	mircea_popescu	nubbins` i once took a girl out to the very nice theatre in my home town, 1800s baroque building, and we sat in the presidential seats and at some point i started applauding
15:11	mircea_popescu	and the whole fucking hall started applauding
15:11	mircea_popescu	she was... a little unraveled.
15:11	mircea_popescu	(tru story, too)
15:11	mircea_popescu	but it was a coincidence.
15:12	nubbins`	not bad
15:12	Adlai	dev behind popular open-source-closed-dev spv wallet is also behind a sybil attack to correlate transactions with jurisdictions... so that's why local trader is so cheap!
15:12	nubbins`	i started a slow-clap once that spread to about 7k people
15:13	mircea_popescu	Adlai heh.
15:13	mircea_popescu	nubbins` it's infectious, right ?
15:13	nubbins`	nod
15:13	nubbins`	esp. if you look around and nod while you're doing it
15:13	Adlai	was the theater clap not at a typical claptime?
15:13	mircea_popescu	these weren't even 1k, and romanians are very herdy animals, and were more so back then.
15:13	mircea_popescu	Adlai was not.
15:14	mircea_popescu	so i'm having cognac and chocolate cookies for breakfast at 3pm. this can't be bad for me, can it ?
15:14	Adlai	doesn't have to be 'coincidence' though, could just be that you reacted fastest out of all the clappy folk, giving the illusion of causality/coincidence
15:15	Adlai	long as the choclate's dark
15:15	mircea_popescu	Adlai the bit was to my taste, which is why i clapped. my tastes are rather... odd, but i guess it's possibru.
15:15	mircea_popescu	it is, yes.
15:22	mircea_popescu	brendafdez: the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish << to me it sounds like a bunch of russians trying to pretend they're speaking latin.
15:24	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055359 << lol @ the problems this dude has.
15:24	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 14:03:07; chetty: <shinohai> I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world
15:25	mircea_popescu	"Citizens ask for permission, expats ask for forgiveness" << maybe he should ask for a nailgun.
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15:26	Adlai	I Asked For A Railgun But All I Got Was This Northop-Grumman T-Shirt
15:27	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055381 << check it out, we fixed an apple fanboi!
15:27	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 14:46:42; nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun
15:27	nubbins`	hey now
15:27	mircea_popescu	next we're gonna be fixing fags and jews.
15:27	nubbins`	watch who you're calling a fanboi!
15:28	mircea_popescu	#bitcoin-aryan
15:29	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055382 << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ?
15:29	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
15:29	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055388 << and your excuse would be that it's perl anyway, right ? :D
15:29	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 14:50:43; mod6: i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess.
15:34	mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field
15:34	Adlai	aryan humor: cd /usr && ln -s usr ich
15:35	mircea_popescu	;p;
15:35	Adlai	er shit, s/usr//
15:35	ascii_field	mircea_popescu: hall started applauding << did it come with a built-in 'stop clap bell' ?
15:36	ascii_field	(iirc stalin's courtiers invented these)
15:36	mircea_popescu	lol nope. i am aware i sound more and more hruschev-ian, but no, i didn't have a bunch of muscle with clubs interspersed in the general public.
15:37	ascii_field	mircea_popescu: ...or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit << wai wat. confused
15:38	ascii_field	if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node << that this was a secret to anyone, is profoundly mindfucking
15:38	mircea_popescu	ascii_field what is "Are ‘we’—the Americans I have lived and studied and worked with for years" and "who once made a living hell out of our fresh, green and naïve college days" iuf not direct translation of "we the workers" ?
15:38	Adlai	the whole security model of bitcoin is that every node is a spy node
15:38	ascii_field	that it was detectable suggests an intimidation play - 'we're watching' - rather than actual intent to grab useful info
15:39	Adlai	!s malice incompetence
15:39	assbot	19 results for 'malice incompetence' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malice+incompetence
15:39	mircea_popescu	ascii_field it is not a secret to anyone except the completely imbecile "experts" the usg has historically and continues to "use" in it's quest to build itself as a bitcoin power independent from mpex.
15:39	mircea_popescu	so far this is progressing admirably.
15:39	mircea_popescu	Adlai you don't say.
15:39	mircea_popescu	ascii_field no dude, it's a simple, 5 yo would want to pretend she's a sophisticated college student like her old sister, so she does the best she can.
15:40	mircea_popescu	in this case, she's reading das kaptial held upside down.
15:41	ascii_field	latipak sad.
15:41	mircea_popescu	that's the la hockey team right ?
15:42	ascii_field	these schmucks could have hired a kid who handles, e.g., botnets, for a fraction of the cost
15:42	ascii_field	or a starving maths grad student, same
15:43	ascii_field	and, imho, bitcoin doesn't 'really work' unless it can laugh off everybody on the planet doing the sibyl crap all day, every day
15:43	mircea_popescu	ascii_field you miss the point where they do not wish to do that, for exactly the reasons i will not hire tim swanson.
15:44	mircea_popescu	and there are no uppity white kids in stanford running botnets
15:44	mircea_popescu	so they're stuck.
15:44	ascii_field	well yes, 'aryans only'
15:44	mircea_popescu	well so then.
15:44	mircea_popescu	if they don't let THEIR boys rape and i do, when it comes to war my boys will rape their boys and that's that.
15:44	ascii_field	but they could conceivably build a sharashka
15:44	ascii_field	for 'untermenschen' to toil, uncredited, in
15:44	mircea_popescu	but i appreciate the opportunity to check this out experimentally - gangrape is fun for a majority of those involved.
15:45	mircea_popescu	they could, if they had a stalin.
15:45	mircea_popescu	they don't have a stalin.
15:46	mircea_popescu	in fact, they don't even have the vague approximation of a stalin where a guy says to his golddigger harpy "if you fuck another black man i'm going tyo hung you both by your toes, and if you struggle i won't let you go", and then does it when she fucks another black guy.
15:46	mircea_popescu	they don't have as much of a stalin as a uni professor that goes " all women, stand up and strip naked or go the fuck home".
15:46	mircea_popescu	etc.
15:46	mircea_popescu	this is a very small amount of stalin to not have.
15:48	ascii_field	how am i to know that, e.g., dick cheney, isn't hunting little gurlz for sport in arizona desert as we speak ?
15:48	ascii_field	or hanging his mistress by the toe
15:48	mircea_popescu	orly.
15:48	mircea_popescu	are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ?
15:49	ascii_field	just confessing that it isn't clear to me that such a thing is impossible or even improbable
15:49	ascii_field	but i've no intel. team, yes.
15:49	BingoBoingo	<mircea_popescu> are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ? << Well Cheney did have a good humor about shooting his patron in the face
15:50	mircea_popescu	(the first cvasi-stalin is, of course, Donald Sterling. the second is, of course, that guy with the "women in scinece" what's his name. i'm noteven going into the story of petreus)
15:51	*	ascii_field distinctly recalls mircea_popescu's 'he is not lizardhitler who does his hitlering in private only'
15:52	mircea_popescu	right ?
15:52	ascii_field	but as i gather, the usg-elite consciously walks this line - unlimited debauchery in private, idiot paper-pushing in public
15:53	mircea_popescu	bs.
15:53	mircea_popescu	what, exactly, is this debauchery ?
15:53	mircea_popescu	like, you ever drove by the walled compound where some general is keeping his harem ?
15:53	mircea_popescu	no, brunei and saudi arabia elite walks this line.
15:53	mircea_popescu	the us is a bunch of impoverished derps with airs.
15:53	mircea_popescu	"oh, the luxury of paying 48658609485609850 for a condo."
15:53	mircea_popescu	"yeah, well done."
15:54	*	ascii_field underscores that he does not know anything re: how ted turner of w. buffett pass their time, or did when young men - but has quasi-educated guess that may or may not be worth the neurons it's printed on
15:54	mircea_popescu	you know plenty of how wb passed / passes his time, he's quite public about it.
15:54	mircea_popescu	indescript house in omaha, married, with children. about as boring as it gets.
15:54	mircea_popescu	nttawwi, on the grounds of one man, he can do w/e the fuck he pleases.
15:55	mircea_popescu	but, again, how many walled compounds are in wash dc holding the harems of obama, the shah of this and the bey of that ?
15:55	ascii_field	but what kind of lizard aristocrat is that. pssh.
15:55	mircea_popescu	visit brunei sometime, for srsly.
15:55	mircea_popescu	preferably take a girl with you, can prolly get a decent price.
15:55	ascii_field	mircea_popescu: actually there are tremendously posh residences, complete with tall walls, here - ones which would not look entirely out of place in brunei
15:55	mircea_popescu	you're eliding my main point.
15:56	mircea_popescu	else what, the world government is in gizeh, egypt ? poshest uninhabited structures on earth ?
15:57	ascii_field	so mircea_popescu tells us that total brezhnevification in usa ? the aristos sit & nervously smoke all day, and nurse their arthritis ?
15:57	mircea_popescu	it is my understanding.
15:57	BingoBoingo	Doesn't seem wrong
15:57	mircea_popescu	the people who try to have a good time are generally 2nd or 3rd echelon,
15:58	mircea_popescu	and in fact it goes as far as to work for a sign. does he look like he's having a good time ? he has no power.
15:58	mircea_popescu	which is a large part of what's so confounding about yours truly, in those quarters.
15:58	mircea_popescu	schroedinger mp.
15:59	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055427 << hey, great piece. congrats to the winners.
15:59	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 15:55:40; nubbins`: hay look mircea_popescu got paraphrased
15:59	ascii_field	mircea_popescu: recall limonov's piece re: herr gadaffi ?
15:59	ascii_field	it was about entirely this
15:59	mircea_popescu	i guess so.
16:00	nubbins`	<+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055382 << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ? <<< on the surface, it's just shirt buttons on the left side vs the right.
16:00	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun
16:00	mircea_popescu	aha
16:00	nubbins`	i.e. places where there's wiggle room in the spec, one zigs where the other zags
16:01	ascii_field	!s llvm
16:01	assbot	34 results for 'llvm' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=llvm
16:01	ascii_field	^ some good material in log re: how and why it came to exist at all
16:01	mircea_popescu	i dunno if i'm the only one who saw brasil - but whenever i see that sorta thing i remember the workmen that cut the holes for the police to bust into homes.
16:01	ascii_field	yes!
16:01	nubbins`	as usual, alf has a better understanding than i
16:01	ascii_field	one of the greatest films about essence of usg
16:02	mircea_popescu	it's pretty good. maybe i'm distributring name tags at conference all reading Mr. Tuttle
16:02	nubbins`	w/ deniro?
16:02	ascii_field	Buttle
16:02	ascii_field	mega-film.
16:02	mircea_popescu	yup
16:02	*	ascii_field heartily recommends 'brazil' to everyone
16:03	mircea_popescu	certainly put gilliam on the map for me. and then imaginarium...
16:03	ascii_field	another mega-film!
16:03	mircea_popescu	you seen imaginarium nubbins` ?
16:03	mircea_popescu	that and barbarella is what i imagine you grew up on.
16:04	BingoBoingo	Everyone knows mircea_popescu grew up on Dallas
16:05	BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field
16:06	mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo lol actually, lemme give you the shortlist : http://trilema.com/grabeste-te-incet http://trilema.com/signore-e-signori-buonanotte http://trilema.com/nesustinabila-negreutate-a-nemortii http://trilema.com/laile-ou-la-cuisse http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/
16:06	assbot	Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5F )
16:06	assbot	Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5K )
16:06	assbot	Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5M )
16:06	assbot	Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5O )
16:06	assbot	La Terra Trema pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCbHh )
16:06	mircea_popescu	the english stuff i saw much later.
16:10	jurov	ben_vulpes rly? you want patches for makeshift build scripts?
16:10	jurov	re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054768
16:10	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 05:07:10; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself?
16:11	jurov	mod6 you see, we have a release indeed. ppl demand patchezzz!!!
16:12	mircea_popescu	haga
16:12	BingoBoingo	Release party!
16:12	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055438 << it's BELL boy. as aptly explained for tim roth's benefit in 4 rooms, "they ring the bell, ya hop!"
16:12	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 16:27:58; pete_dushenski: he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy !
16:14	mircea_popescu	wait, nm. tennis, ma bad.
16:17	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055504 << not really, no. they had a little less preditors than hippos would if there were no humans.
16:17	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 18:44:42; pete_dushenski: dinosaurs were freaking enormous and had plenty of predation pressures
16:18	pete_dushenski	yes, with the little yellow fuzzy ball!
16:18	pete_dushenski	and i'll stop derping about dinos now
16:19	mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055519 << by and large, this depends on how you measure efficiency. rabbits are larger than chickens, but more efficient, under the "food to usable foodstuff" conversion paradigm. turkeys are larger than chickens and less efficient. etc.
16:19	assbot	Logged on 17-03-2015 18:50:07; Adlai: smaller organisms are more efficient
16:19	mircea_popescu	generally birds are inefficient because of the 42 degrees problem. but also, polar bears eat a lot more than lions, per body kg.
16:21	ben_vulpes	42 degrees problem?
16:21	*	Adlai was referring specifically to growth ratios: quadratic muscle strength vs cubic mass
16:23	thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: just found out today co-manager is romanian
16:23	thestringpuller	you guise be reppin' hard
16:23	mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes birds maintain 42 degrees body temperatures, vs your 36.5
16:24	mircea_popescu	that's expensive at rest (it's also the only reason they can fly, larger buffer to absorb the heat they can't dissipate)
16:24	mircea_popescu	(this is why birds hang out in trees while reptiles hang out on rocks - birds need the shade, lizards need the heat)
16:25	Adlai	camels have a range of liveable body temperatures, like a reptile but not. verging upon the... reptilian.
16:25	mircea_popescu	tru
16:25	pete_dushenski	42 degrees would, i suppose, explain why there aren't any pterodactyl-sized birds
16:26	mircea_popescu	Adlai you ever slept in the desert, camels lined up to break the cold wind ?
16:26	Adlai	( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel#Ecological_and_behavioral_adaptations )
16:26	assbot	Camel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNHPA9 )
16:26	Adlai	fuxake, we have tents yknow
16:26	mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski look into large eagles.
16:26	Adlai	and armored vehicles
16:26	mircea_popescu	Adlai ha! i'm one ahead :D
16:27	nubbins`	<+mircea_popescu> you seen imaginarium nubbins` ? <<< of dr parnassus or w/e?
16:27	mircea_popescu	actually chetty was on that trip!
16:27	mircea_popescu	yup
16:27	nubbins`	nod. some years back, through a haze of mixed intoxicants: "is that tom waits?"
16:27	*	Adlai has slept in the desert without anything breaking the wind...
16:27	*	Adlai has also ridden camels, but years ago on a school thingy
16:28	Adlai	roughly a decade by now, around 5 BC
16:28	Adlai	s/C/G/
16:28	nubbins`	actually iirc there's a zine somewhere in this house that mentions a woman w the last name popescu
16:28	Adlai	"before genesis"
16:28	nubbins`	iifrc, the title of the piece was "a list of people whose houses i am no longer allowed in"
16:29	mircea_popescu	lol ?
16:29	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/#comment-113144 heh.
16:29	assbot	Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNInWG )
16:30	mircea_popescu	that's a mildly interesting problem : calculate the probability of naturally occuring exact geometric shapes of a given metal and mass.
16:30	Adlai	mircea_popescu: wait so where do the emphases go in your name? MEER-sha po-PES-ku ?
16:30	mircea_popescu	yea
16:30	mircea_popescu	first-and-penultimate convention
16:32	thestringpuller	I'm going to prounounce is MER-KUH
16:32	thestringpuller	lol
16:32	thestringpuller	jk
16:33	Adlai	first-and-penultimate is itself first-and-pe-null-tim-et
16:34	mircea_popescu	:)
16:34	mircea_popescu	you know you should prolly look into ipa rather than that atrocity w/e it is.
16:34	chetty	http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/25/scandnavian-men-leaving-feminists-to-themselves/
16:34	assbot	Scandinavian Men Leaving Feminists to Themselves - The Spearhead ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNJ5U0 )
16:38	Adlai	ipa? atrocity?
16:50	scoopbot	New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/openssl-severe-vulnerability-to-be-revealed-march-19th/
16:55	mircea_popescu	i dunno what "meer-sha" is supposed to sound like.
16:55	scoopbot	New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/coinapult-reports-hot-wallet-compromise/
16:55	mircea_popescu	i know what mirˈt͡ʃe̯a is supposed to sound like
17:00	*	Adlai is biologist today, not philologist
17:13	funkenstein_	all this talk of companies losing peoples money makes me think i should give up and just trust some company with all my money
17:18	funkenstein_	either that or time to open up a wallet service
17:22	Adlai	this is why you should only trust people with your money, never companies
17:22	BingoBoingo	I forget what group was behing the silver cold storage buttplug?
17:29	Adlai	http://w.b-a.link/user/slush
17:29	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/18DVYpo )
17:30	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60540 @ 0.00031891 = 19.3068 BTC [-] {3}
17:32	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00032485 = 6.8543 BTC [+]
17:41	cazalla	pete_dushenski: it's in melbourne at the central train terminal <<< they've slowly chipped away at that place, replacing the old with the new, personally i don't see it as anything special, stench of stale piss surrounds it
17:42	Adlai	sounds like my slum
		~ 39 minutes ~
18:21	mircea_popescu	http://blog.cakebet.com/clarity-shines-fud/ << who's this incidentally ?
18:21	assbot	Clarity Shines Through The FUD - CBB: CakeBet Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1xcxAH1 )
18:26	danielpbarron	that's the nakamoto institute guy
18:27	mircea_popescu	with some dubious casino ?
18:27	danielpbarron	i wasn't aware of his involvement with that; i just see his name attributed at the end of the article
18:28	danielpbarron	!gettrust danielkrawisz
18:28	assbot	Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user danielkrawisz: Level 1: -2, Level 2: 1 via 5 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/danielpbarron/danielkrawisz | http://w.b-a.link/user/danielkrawisz
18:28	mircea_popescu	"Francis Fondant"
18:29	PeterL	;;later tell pete_dushenski I dunno what you're talking about, looks like its working fine for me?
18:29	gribble	The operation succeeded.
18:31	mircea_popescu	"Your LinkedIn account says you’re in Sweden, so perhaps English is not your native language. That’s cool. Spanish was my first language, so I feel you. However, your generalization about women is a reprehensible bromide."
18:32	mircea_popescu	i just picked myself off the floor
18:38	mircea_popescu	in other news, tithat. http://40.media.tumblr.com/a8d148fd90a47d247323ab5c2cb81c7b/tumblr_mh2pkwkHTk1r7r92mo1_500.jpg
18:38	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MHYl9D )
18:50	mircea_popescu	http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/96861298768/on-reliable-guides-and-bayesianism << the trouble with the world is that the well informed are weak and the ignorant headstrong.
18:50	assbot	Wading In — On Reliable Guides and Bayesianism ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHZbTL )
18:51	mircea_popescu	that article should have been dripping invective. but of course, such is not possible. so random internet imbecile reads it and moves on, unbothered. HE IS LESS WRONG
18:51	mircea_popescu	and utterly stupid.
18:51	BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: You might enjoy http://bulabula.org/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/ just keep in mind this is one of the devs, don't go all twitter fatwah
18:51	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1MHZcHy )
18:53	mircea_popescu	hahaha
18:56	BingoBoingo	It sucks that the thing is a slide deck, but at least it is a series of images and not a ppt or pdf turd
19:02	danielpbarron	lol
19:06	BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: How's the imac doing?
19:08	danielpbarron	very well
19:08	danielpbarron	done with g4, now working on a g3
19:09	BingoBoingo	Cool
19:09	danielpbarron	the hard drives are failing but it's good enough
19:09	danielpbarron	i may buy a bunch of ssd drives
19:09	BingoBoingo	Replacing those shouldn't be hard
19:10	danielpbarron	i think i could resell these things
19:11	danielpbarron	openbsd is such a pleasure to work with
19:11	danielpbarron	it does exactly what i expect it to do
19:11	BingoBoingo	AH, replacing the hard drives requires thermal paste
19:12	danielpbarron	yeah replacing parts in mac stuff is not easy but it's not impossible
19:12	danielpbarron	i don't know about thermal paste, but it's not like i can just pop off a panel and swap the drive
19:14	BingoBoingo	https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+G4+17-Inch+Model+M9168LLA+Hard+Drive+Replacement/4176 << Part of what you remove to get to the HD connects to the CPU's waste heat removal path
19:14	assbot	iMac G4 17" Model M9168LLA Hard Drive Replacement - iFixit ... ( http://bit.ly/1MI1eY4 )
19:15	BingoBoingo	I'm pretty sure I still have my torx screwdriver for the real B&W Macs somewhere around here
19:22		Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 97.8035122 BTC. Current weight: 50,790.
19:22		Bet placed: 6 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 67.33320426 BTC. Current weight: 90,515.
19:37	danielpbarron	https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/577976775449300992
19:37	assbot	/hashtag/OpenBSD?src=hash 5.6 on an Apple iMac G4. http://t.co/vx5qS4N7WV
19:43	BingoBoingo	danielpbarron: Curious yet to see if the G4 can catch up to the Pogos?
		~ 18 minutes ~
20:01	BingoBoingo	!up nubbins`
20:02	BingoBoingo	nubbins`: How's your EM storm?
20:02	nubbins`	uneventful
20:03	BingoBoingo	Sun down yet? Checking for Auroraussifdhauh;wjd;if
20:06	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104128 @ 0.00032631 = 33.978 BTC [+] {2}
20:07	thestringpuller	nubbins`: did you get Eulora to run?
20:08	mircea_popescu	http://news.yahoo.com/dursts-letter-helped-prosecutors-bring-murder-charge-071512902.html << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ?
20:08	assbot	Police searching Houston home of millionaire Robert Durst - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1AVVwcP )
20:09	nubbins`	too cloudy for 'em here!
20:09	nubbins`	thestringpuller nah
20:11	BingoBoingo	<mircea_popescu> ... << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ? << One of the Vic's is a "Mob Bosses" daughter so it is time to bring out all the grains of salt.
20:16	mircea_popescu	i dunno what value a 3 year old audio testimony produced by a media company with ample access to recordings of the person's voice could be worth in court.
20:16	mircea_popescu	if it is worth anything, it is worth anything only through the sheer ignorance / ample cupidity of the jury.
20:16	thestringpuller	isn't that the point of a jury?
20:17	mircea_popescu	otherwise, i could probably make an audiotrack of obama confessing his erotic dreams of stalin.
20:17	nubbins`	thestringpuller actually yes. i did get eulora to run
20:17	nubbins`	didn't get it to accept kbd/mouse input
20:17	thestringpuller	what platform?
20:17	nubbins`	this was a while ago
20:17	nubbins`	osx
20:17	nubbins`	natch
20:18	thestringpuller	ah. damn. i'm trying on ubuntu using chetty 's setup. almost got it. just cal3d is invisible for some reason
20:18	thestringpuller	soon. progress. stuff.
20:18	mircea_popescu	nubbins` if memory serves the stuff was upgraded once since hten
20:18	nubbins`	check against the linux as well as osx install guide on the wiki, might be of some help
20:18	nubbins`	mp o!
20:20	nubbins`	then maybe i'll have another go
20:22	nubbins`	is 0.0.4 latest? that's the one i was messing w/
20:22	mircea_popescu	it's latest but old. a new one is in the pipe so give it a few.
20:24	danielpbarron	i got eulora to work on gentoo
20:24	mircea_popescu	o hey!
20:24	danielpbarron	i collected items and talked to npcs
20:24	danielpbarron	this was weeks ago
20:25	mircea_popescu	seems gentoo is going to be a major platform for eulora beta / many things we do.
20:26	ben_vulpes	wai no
20:26	danielpbarron	at this point i consider gentoo to be the only linux (worth using)
20:26	mircea_popescu	should be remembered as "the costs of systemd".
20:26	danielpbarron	and openbsd the only bsd
20:27	ben_vulpes	gentoo doesn't have systemd?
20:27	danielpbarron	it's optional and not default
20:27	mircea_popescu	more easily fixed than the rest of 'em.
20:27	mircea_popescu	nobody has so far taken a strong "fuck you, and red hat, and the usg" stance. it is likely they never will,
20:28	mircea_popescu	preferring instead to write plaintive missives of no value ten years later, like the netbsd derp.
20:28	mircea_popescu	"here's how stupid i was and here's what you could learn from it : don't EVER go with the libertard ideology, ever."
20:28	mircea_popescu	except not really saying that, because hey, still same dumb, ten years older.
20:33	ben_vulpes	and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd?
20:33	ben_vulpes	i mean if one's to go off the deep end, why not...go off the deep end?
20:34	mircea_popescu	i don't see why not ? c is c.
20:34	mircea_popescu	anyway, jurov found a guy willing to do the windows stuff, so there's going to be that, too.
20:35	mircea_popescu	im curious how it'll work out.
20:35	ben_vulpes	i don't see why not either
20:35	ben_vulpes	except that it's not happening.
20:35	ben_vulpes	i'd rather assume asshats have good reason for doing what they're doing and that seems the most obvious reason.
20:35	mircea_popescu	in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0c02c9667532ac3adc5e91e231a12a95/tumblr_mm6fa8ZxQe1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg
20:35	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1AW1kD0 )
20:36	mircea_popescu	im open for someone to maintain an openbsd binary.
20:36	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2015/open-binary-maintenance-for-eulora/ < relevant
20:36	assbot	[OPEN] Binary maintenance for Eulora pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AW1uKN )
20:36	ben_vulpes	lol well i can't imagine you'd be against it
20:37	thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: maybe also have update script for dependencies?
20:37	thestringpuller	at least windows games install directX before they attempt to install themselves :P
20:38	BingoBoingo	<danielpbarron> and openbsd the only bsd << If you tuck it safely behind a wall, FreeBSD kicks ass on storage.
20:38	mircea_popescu	thestringpuller it'll be the maintainer's lot.
20:50	mircea_popescu	http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dancing_man << worth a chuckle.
20:50	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DznX77 )
20:53	mircea_popescu	"Far be it for me to question the veracity of claims made by screenshots of anonymous comments from 4chan, but did anyone bother to stop and ask why a man would be dancing in a room full of people wearing coats?"
20:58	BingoBoingo	scoopbot -fetch
20:58	scoopbot	New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/largest-bitcoin-bet-resolved/
20:59	mod6	lol, moby offered "services"
20:59	mod6	maddox++
21:00	mircea_popescu	maddox is like nubbins` on steroids.
21:00	mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo nice!
21:01	BingoBoingo	You're welcome mircea_popescu
21:03	mircea_popescu	in other news, assisted mating : http://41.media.tumblr.com/2a0f9ef7d972e3448902da6081a00b08/tumblr_mzp6phkXAY1scedu9o1_1280.jpg
21:03	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DzqDlo )
21:07	BingoBoingo	<ben_vulpes> and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd? << Don't see how it could be much worse than bitcoin-qt, which is why I am severely undrqualified for this
21:11	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114850 @ 0.00032713 = 37.5709 BTC [+] {2}
21:15	BingoBoingo	"Because if we've learned nothing from Martin Luther King Jr., and we haven't, true diversity comes not from the content of our character, but the color of our skin. And which genitals we have."
21:15	asciilifeform	achtung, panzers,
21:16	asciilifeform	from macrofab: 'We received your boards today, we expect to have review complete and the boards working as expected tomorrow, I will keep you posted!'
21:16	*	asciilifeform skeptical
21:18	BingoBoingo	I'm just thrilled that it appears counterfieting and mislabling just might be so rampant that nothing digital would work if it had to meet analogue standards
21:19	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: vendor insists they tested 50 random Rs from spool
21:19	asciilifeform	and found none that match my description of the four that ended up on the boards.
21:19	asciilifeform	'my lying eyes'
21:20	asciilifeform	incidentally, had i done anything other than what i did - ordering sample rng first - would likely have noticed nothing.
21:21	BingoBoingo	Vegans still eat grain even though their eyes don't see the blood of the mice rats, cats, and coons slaughtered by the combine on each grain.
21:22	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: somebody ought to sell these schmucks a simple protein assayer
21:22	asciilifeform	undergrad-level problem.
21:22	asciilifeform	and make'em squirm
21:22	BingoBoingo	A charitable to the vendor interpretation here is that USPS didn't know you had door camera and you didn't know USPS's official address attached to your domicile is Fort Mead
21:22	*	asciilifeform wonder what the cat ppm is of grain
21:23	nubbins`	easy enough to find out the allowed max
21:23	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: the mail did get in later that day.
21:23	asciilifeform	if enemy action - straight sabotage, rather than subversion
21:24	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Sure, my mail occasionally gets registered a bit early or late too. I write it off to lazy mailmail scanning everything at once. Still how lond would it take intermediate site to sabotage
21:24	asciilifeform	though there might live somewhere a nitwit so astonoshingly stupid that he might imagine that rng might be screwed into a live battlefield system without test of any kind.
21:25	BingoBoingo	Well the partial sybill uncovered spynodes because deviance
21:26	mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo " I am severely undrqualified for this" said every virgin at her defloration party.
21:27	mircea_popescu	i suppose they don't do those statesides ?
21:27	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: perhaps my (1980s) multimeter lies. or i'm simply retarded. or, or, or.
21:27	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform maybe tell them that if they provide you with a full diagnosis / story of what happened you'll publish the whole thing on your blog,
21:28	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: not sure if that would encourage or discourage the poor buggers
21:28	mircea_popescu	and that they should prolly take advantage of the opportunity seeing how it's widely read by the world's elite such as for instance mpex discussion.
21:28	mircea_popescu	but who cares what the effect is ? :)
21:28	nubbins`	my arms are cancelled from all that shovelling
21:28	asciilifeform	the only reason they even pretend to do this ritual is the dream, i'd guess, of repeat business
21:28	asciilifeform	no one breaks a sweat over <1 benjie
21:28	mircea_popescu	quite.
21:29	mircea_popescu	they may also be doing it for the principle of the thing.
21:29	asciilifeform	entirely possible
21:29	mircea_popescu	well so then.
21:29	BingoBoingo	<mircea_popescu> i suppose they don't do those statesides ? << Only for the cool virgins
21:29	mircea_popescu	yeah kinda how it works.
21:29	mod6	anyone wanna give v0.5.3.1 RC1 a try? http://thebitcoin.foundation/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz
21:29	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1DzwqY3 )
21:31	mod6	a2d54ff7eebca1340adbe4119eb542db5db0865676b1344f6beaa5fdd0ae6cd8 bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz
21:32	mircea_popescu	better snow than shit ey nubbins` ?
21:33	nubbins`	you assume 8)
21:33	mircea_popescu	nubbins` i actually shovelled snow myself.
21:33	BingoBoingo	I'm just glad out snow seems over, lilacs started waking up this week
21:33	nubbins`	imagine! :D
21:33	nubbins`	light and fluffy or 80% liquid water?
21:34	nubbins`	large amt of both types on the ground today ;/
21:34	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/jos-basescu/ << 2012.
21:34	assbot	Jos Basescu! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACPej8 )
21:35	asciilifeform	"the costs of systemd" << wai wat was this
21:35	mircea_popescu	"eulora on gentoo, everything else on gentoo, fu."
21:35	asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: gentoo doesn't have systemd? << complicated. if you follow the install described in the Handbook, you will almost certainly end up with systemd
21:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00031178 = 15.8072 BTC [-] {4}
21:37	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you know it occurs to me a broad systemd test script would be useful
21:37	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: test script ?
21:37	asciilifeform	as in, for presence thereof? it's trivial, check the process list
21:38	BingoBoingo	nubbins`> large amt of both types on the ground today ;/ << This year aside from October we've just been all light and fluffy
21:38	mircea_popescu	it can't run unless it has pid 0 ?
21:38	asciilifeform	the thing mutilates the entire system in such ways that there can be no confusion whatsoever about its presence
21:38	mircea_popescu	coming up next in game of thrones, http://40.media.tumblr.com/083af2dfaee0ff56b152fe153fa1dce9/tumblr_mtmcqoGtT81r59rt8o1_1280.jpg
21:38	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ACPVZN )
21:39	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu saw the g.o.t. ?
21:39	BingoBoingo	Serious game of throne http://fap.to/images/50/1477125326/fetish-porn/girls-naked-on-the-toilet-4.jpg
21:39	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ACQdzy )
21:40	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: l0l
21:40	asciilifeform	'wide stance' (TM)
21:41	asciilifeform	(uttered by american politician, even)
21:41	BingoBoingo	Larry Craig (tm)
21:41	mircea_popescu	got ?
21:42	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: game of thrones
21:42	mircea_popescu	ah, no. im peripherally aware of it cuz coupla of de girlz are fans
21:42	asciilifeform	(exists as a barely readable book series, and a very lulzy tv series)
21:43	BingoBoingo	It's basically another hairy twatter fanfic, still not as good as the woodchipper one
21:43	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: nope
21:44	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: not all bad phantasy is riff on hp
21:44	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: It didn't start that way, but it is headed there.
21:44	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: there's a whole world of it. traditionally dominated by bad tolkien riffs, but GOT isn't one of these either
21:45	asciilifeform	for gentoo n00bz:
21:46	asciilifeform	use 'eudev' instead of 'udev'. this zaps the shitgnomotron of artificial dependency on systemd in device hotplugger
21:47	asciilifeform	http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << aaaand there's a bit of instruction here
21:47	assbot	Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACRzdG )
21:47	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110683 @ 0.00030836 = 34.1302 BTC [-] {2}
21:47	asciilifeform	summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags
21:47	asciilifeform	and mask systemd and udev in package.mask.
21:48	asciilifeform	do this -before- emerging world, or any individual package likely to pull in systemd-isms for that matter.
21:48	*	BingoBoingo is perfectly happy to admit his beloved Breaking Bad is just MacBeth fanfic
21:49	*	asciilifeform is curious whether anyone here 1) does gentoo 2) did not know above recipe
21:52	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform from what i've seen they mostly do "bad actors in bad period costumes and elevator scripts"
21:53	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the idiocy of how linux nowadays handles dependencies makes me fucking hate the entire thing.
21:53	mircea_popescu	really, solitaire is dependent on networking ? fuck the whole lot of them.
21:53	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: gentoo is afaik the last remaining bastion of sanity re: dependencies
21:53	asciilifeform	which is to say, they are actually controllable
21:53	trinque	-pulseaudio is another good one
21:53	trinque	also -dbus
21:53	mircea_popescu	"the last remaining bastion " >> http://40.media.tumblr.com/bab78269d215cf75ed1df862a19e1494/tumblr_mz3c8j5Dmq1s0f482o1_1280.jpg
21:53	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ACSOJZ )
21:54	nubbins`	have never used gentoo
21:54	mircea_popescu	nubbins` me either. nor would i have considered it, pre debian showing all the leadership of a stale clump of bread.
21:55	*	asciilifeform went straight from msdos to freebsd, then gentoo
21:55	nubbins`	i diddled with slackware in my teens, have used debian or a derivation thereof since
21:55	mircea_popescu	meanwhile /me has ordered gentoo researched and will probably migrate.
21:55	mircea_popescu	exactly
21:55	*	asciilifeform this being whole of what he ever used on pc arch
21:55	nubbins`	linux-wise, anyway
21:55	mircea_popescu	half my shit is still on sarge
21:56	*	asciilifeform was never eager to run other folks' binaries if there was a way of avoiding it, purely because it never seems to work reasonably well on linux (i always got 'lucky' and libc mismatched)
21:56	nubbins`	i recall using VMS on a work term once
21:56	nubbins`	bizarre os
21:57	*	asciilifeform likes various gentoo-specific things like automagic cross-compiler toolchain builder
21:57	asciilifeform	i do a great bit of cross-compilation.
21:57	nubbins`	and my last job, most of the place was mainframes running IBM i
21:57	asciilifeform	vms is very interesting from historic perspective and any serious reader of 'the unix hater's handbook' should give it a spin out of purely that
21:57	decimation	nubbins`: the aurora should be slightly visible, if you have a dark sky
21:58	nubbins`	decimation i'm just outta range
21:58	nubbins`	like almost the only place in .ca out of range
21:58	decimation	chetty: the G4 global storm is a global phenomenon, still ongoing
21:58	decimation	it is maximal opposite the sun; it will move south during the night
21:59	decimation	the powerline impacts are probably not detectable on your local line, they affect long distance transmission lines
22:00	danielpbarron	09:48 <+asciilifeform> summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags << ah yes i forgot i had done this
22:01	danielpbarron	i have pulseaudio though; why is that bad?
22:01	mircea_popescu	it's meh. kinda-works. poettering's previous project.
22:02	nubbins`	ppp
22:03	mircea_popescu	lol
22:06	mircea_popescu	http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/97789680783/chapter-18-what << this shit's something else.
22:06	assbot	Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACV0Bb )
22:06	mircea_popescu	copilul anal, totally.
22:11	BingoBoingo	<mircea_popescu> http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/97789680783/chapter-18-what << this shit's something else. << It gets more broken
22:11	assbot	Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACVXtj )
22:12	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67554 @ 0.00032508 = 21.9605 BTC [+]
22:17	mircea_popescu	!up coalbe
22:21	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93850 @ 0.00032762 = 30.7471 BTC [+] {3}
22:24	decimation	re: systemd-free gentoo < http://www.funtoo.org/Welcome < there's also funtoo which is apparently a light variant on gentoo which specifically excludes systemd
22:24	assbot	Funtoo Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cr7dO3 )
22:25	decimation	I haven't used it, but it ought to deliver a gentoo-like experience (uses the same repository afaik)
22:25	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 159013 @ 0.00030578 = 48.623 BTC [-] {3}
22:26	BingoBoingo	!up TheNewDeal
22:26	decimation	daniel robbins (original man behind gentoo) runs funtoo
22:26	TheNewDeal	Why thank you
22:27	TheNewDeal	;;Later tell TomServo Ill be around wednesday evening to Sunday evening. Send me a message
22:27	gribble	The operation succeeded.
22:33	danielpbarron	!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.brendafdez.1:223f3415b24ac435db9d16f55b3ba58fe472795065787d7fcf3bf3a418da91af
22:33	assbot	Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: no such thing as a chick that can pgp
22:35	nubbins`	with a name like funtoo
22:38	decimation	apparently john carmack is a fan of the 'racket' language
22:39	mircea_popescu	lmao
22:41	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22199 @ 0.00030356 = 6.7387 BTC [-]
22:44	decimation	apparently it's a scheme variant with tons of junk glommed on
22:48	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120372 @ 0.0002981 = 35.8829 BTC [-] {2}
22:48	BingoBoingo	I'll check again in a couple hours, bu we may have aurora building visible here
22:50	decimation	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/ < "http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/" < lolz
22:50	assbot	Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrawES )
22:50	decimation	doh stupid cut "Though the report found that a majority of Americans are skeptical of government surveillance programs, it also found very few are taking the extra step of encrypting the content of their e-mails. In fact, half of those surveyed said using encryption software gives the government enough suspicion to monitor a U.S. citizen's communications."
22:50	BingoBoingo	decimation: You have to remember that ~98% of Americans made the mistake of voting for Obummer or Romney
22:51	decimation	heh yeah
22:51	decimation	and then again
22:51	decimation	Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary)
22:51	nubbins`	98% voter turnout? :0
22:51	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59636 @ 0.00030356 = 18.1031 BTC [+]
22:52	asciilifeform	'racket' << iirc it was the thing formerly 'plt scheme'
22:52	BingoBoingo	<decimation> Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary) << Insuffiecient information at the time to blame eeveryone for voting "generic sharp black kid" over the lich
22:52	*	asciilifeform originally learned scheme on 'plt'
22:52	asciilifeform	and even taught to a girl
22:53	decimation	BingoBoingo: actually that reminds me of a funny quote on the econtalk podcast: "Reminds me of when I tried in 1976--I was in a shopping mall in North Carolina trying to get the Libertarian candidate, Roger McBride, on the ballot. One of my few forays into politics. I would accost passers by and ask them if they would like to see a third party and have another choice, and many of them would say: We have too many already."
22:53	decimation	http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2011/09/winston_on_lawy.html
22:53	assbot	" + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1CraX23 )
22:53	decimation	asciilifeform: so you would endorse taking a look at 'racket'?
22:53	asciilifeform	no.
22:54	decimation	in your blog, you say that scheme is too 'minimal' to be useful
22:54	asciilifeform	as described in r5rs - yes
22:54	BingoBoingo	decimation: My one legit referendum petition I remember signing was when I was living in Missouri. It is Mardi Gras and I signed the legalize the marijuana petition because fuck west county
22:54	asciilifeform	as described in subsequent documents - poetteringized
22:55	decimation	ah, I see.
22:55	*	BingoBoingo drilling python some more realizing to do what I want prolly need to drill perl and C
22:56	decimation	BingoBoingo: apparently you could just drive to to colorado
22:57	BingoBoingo	decimation: On St. Patricks day? After mircea_popescu lost the Berkshire bet? I'm fine taking in the Aurorae as a faint green glow.
22:57	decimation	BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in
23:02	BingoBoingo	<decimation> BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in << I'm just looking to populate a toolbox.
23:02	BingoBoingo	For mundane taks
23:02	BingoBoingo	*tasks
23:03	*	asciilifeform has a radio scanner running for unrelated reasons, picked up the well-known alex jones, quoth 'soros funded ferguson...' - then disappears in jamming noise
23:03	asciilifeform	or possibly the solar flare
23:03	decimation	heh
23:04	BingoBoingo	<asciilifeform> or possibly the solar flare << Direction of solar flare fun from here is line of site to downtown (granted not huge downtown) and walmart LED lights.
23:05	BingoBoingo	Maybe placebo, but at last check tint to lights a bit greener than usual for such clear skies.
23:05	decimation	the aurora is actually caused by particles spiraling down the the magnetic field lines, the solar flare that sent them here was over days ago
23:05	BingoBoingo	This being middle west though nothing about sky can be trusted.
23:06	asciilifeform	decimation: elementary 'dynamo' situation
23:06	asciilifeform	same as nuke emp.
23:06	BingoBoingo	decimation: I thought it made contact about 24 hours ago, not quite finished with contact?
23:06	decimation	yeah pretty much. that's why it causes a danger to long conductors, sets up currents through 'ground'
23:06	BingoBoingo	<asciilifeform> same as nuke emp. << Speed differs
23:06	asciilifeform	well yes.
23:07	asciilifeform	'...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio
23:07	*	asciilifeform lulz1ng
23:07	decimation	BingoBoingo: the main body of particles has passed, but the earth's magnetic field is still bouncing around in its wake
23:07	asciilifeform	'...put a wall between you and... irs'
23:07	BingoBoingo	<asciilifeform> '...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio << About as easy to cast as lead
23:07	asciilifeform	but wtf.
23:07	decimation	asciilifeform: are you listening to 'coast to coast' on am?
23:08	asciilifeform	that's some serious sp4m
23:08	nubbins`	you pick up some bizarre things on shortwave sometimes
23:08	asciilifeform	4.85 Mhz
23:08	decimation	shortwave in the us is a desert of crazy
23:08	decimation	at least, broadcast anyway
23:09	*	BingoBoingo steeling up for the prospect of walking halway to St Rose at for the prospect of seeing a smidge of green in the sky.
23:09	danielpbarron	i'm reading the quoted radio text in that alex jones voice in my head
23:09	*	BingoBoingo would consider driving if he hadn't started the libations 10 hours ago.
23:10	decimation	asciilifeform: you might be listening to WWCR transmitter #3
23:11	decimation	schedule here http://www.wwcr.com/
23:11	assbot	WWCR.com | Home - WWCR Shortwave, Nashville, Tennessee, USA ... ( http://bit.ly/1Crd8Td )
23:11	decimation	it could also be a harmonic of some local am broadcaster
23:12	*	BingoBoingo thinks eventually qntra should distribute RSS over number station
23:12	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: if you wanna pay for this...
23:12	nubbins`	;;google raspberry pi pirate radio
23:12	gribble	Raspberry Pirate Radio - Make: | Make:: <http://makezine.com/projects/make-38-cameras-and-av/raspberry-pirate-radio/>; Start a Pirate Radio Station with a Raspberry Pi and a Single Wire: <http://lifehacker.com/start-a-pirate-radio-station-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-a-1538837219>; Weekend Projects - Raspberry Pirate Radio - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBb8BN0dqoQ>
23:12	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Give it two decades. 1 GW at 440 HZ
23:13	nubbins`	works until you get v&
23:13	BingoBoingo	When mircea_popescu's comfotable in New Reno should be perfectly feasible
23:14	BingoBoingo	What else is the Hoover Damn or its remains going to be sending power too?
23:14	mircea_popescu	<assbot> Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew << half of americans also think an mit degree means basic electric competence.
23:16	asciilifeform	goddammnit
23:16	mircea_popescu	?
23:16	asciilifeform	[censored].155 Mhz has my keyboard
23:16	BingoBoingo	So in News, disorderly conduct has moved from series of incompletable bench trials to Hearing today.
23:16	asciilifeform	fucktardation
23:17	*	asciilifeform was actually looking for precisely it, and found it
23:17	BingoBoingo	Hearing in May
23:18	decimation	asciilifeform: my suggestion: lots of ferrite
23:19	asciilifeform	not coming from the cable
23:19	asciilifeform	(shielded)
23:19	BingoBoingo	Erect around mudhut, ground well? https://gensteel.com/
23:19	assbot	Steel Buildings | Steel Building & Metal Building Quotes ... ( http://bit.ly/1EuGv6e )
23:20	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: not in mud hut
23:21	mircea_popescu	<asciilifeform> '...no survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet.
23:21	asciilifeform	vs pb ?
23:21	asciilifeform	how ?
23:22	BingoBoingo	Silver's a bit harder, still soft enough for rifling. Just not quite as dense as pb
23:22	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform because doesn't blunt quite as much on impact
23:22	*	asciilifeform found yet another harmonic
23:22	mircea_popescu	less like frozen shit, so to speak
23:22	*	asciilifeform is -not- happy with his discovery
23:23	BingoBoingo	Excellent chumpatron could be had selling silver bullets at $5 - 45 per round for "When your life depends on it"
23:23	mircea_popescu	i think it's being done already.
23:24	*	mircea_popescu sits patiently waiting to see what alf finds in his kbd now
23:24	BingoBoingo	Of all the silly james bond premises the man with the gold gun seemed one of the more feasible ones.
23:25	asciilifeform	it's an ordinary '80s ps/2 kbd.
23:25	asciilifeform	i knew they are loud, did not know -how-
23:26	mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo gold is pretty atrocious a material to make guns out of.
23:26	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is it audible if unplugged ?
23:26	BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The gun itself yes, the bullet, no
23:26	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: +5dB when key repeating
23:27	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: otherwise just atmospheric static uncorrelated with distance of antenna from device
23:27	mircea_popescu	sure, gold bullet might work.
23:27	mircea_popescu	not so different from what the us is doing currently.
23:27	mircea_popescu	"would have been cheaper to buy afghanistan than to conquer it was"
23:27	BingoBoingo	Du's prolly close to the optimal choice though
23:28	asciilifeform	... aaaand another harmonic
23:30	scoopbot	New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/so-hows-magic-work/
23:31	BingoBoingo	!up gabrielradio
23:37	asciilifeform	.... and another harmonic
23:37	decimation	asciilifeform: it could be from the cord
23:38	asciilifeform	mnope.
23:38	asciilifeform	specifically keyboard microcontroller.
23:38	decimation	asciilifeform: yes, but something is radiating it presumably?
23:38	asciilifeform	decimation: scan matrix
23:44	decimation	asciilifeform: there might be little you can do unless you are willing to modify the internal circuitry
23:44	asciilifeform	decimation: more than willing
23:44	decimation	some ferrite might help, but it takes quite a bit to make a difference
23:45	decimation	www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf < I recommend this
23:45	mircea_popescu	actually... just add rng in circuit.
23:45	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: think, scan matrix
23:47	decimation	common mode chokes create an impedence to the common mode circuit - you would have to pass both signal and ground through them. a mix #43 toroid with several turns of both signal and ground would help
23:47	asciilifeform	http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html << likbez
23:47	assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1EuIIyC )
23:47	asciilifeform	decimation: not coming from the cable!
23:47	decimation	asciilifeform: I understand, I'm talking about the connection between the microprocessor and the scan array
23:47	asciilifeform	the array itself appears to radiate also.
23:47	decimation	yes
23:47	asciilifeform	which is entirely unsurprising
23:48	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i understnad how the matrix thing works.
23:48	asciilifeform	to anyone who was awake in kindergarten
23:48	asciilifeform	likbez for ze n00bz
23:48	mircea_popescu	fact remains you can add a chunk to generate fake keypresses right next to it.
23:48	mircea_popescu	you are immune to it, yourself, because wires.
23:48	mircea_popescu	spy however can't discern
23:48	decimation	the other solution is to insert a differential filter (lowpass) in the actual scan array circuit
23:49	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: ideal materials for this artistic project is controller from identical kbd, with keyswitch faker attached
23:49	mircea_popescu	well, or can use your own rng.
23:49	decimation	which may have obvious side effects on the circuitry
23:49	asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: yes but to have precisely same radiating profile
23:49	mircea_popescu	well yea, will take some tinkering.
23:50	*	asciilifeform could probably achieve more with an actual spectrum analyzer, but would have to sell organs
23:50	decimation	does your o-scope have a 'spectrum analyzer' mode?
23:51	asciilifeform	decimation: yes but entirely useless for this application.
23:51	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147533 @ 0.00032249 = 47.5779 BTC [+] {2}
23:51	asciilifeform	decimation: the rf amp is the golden toilet
23:52	asciilifeform	i only have the equivalent of a 'copper toilet' here.
23:53	decimation	actually your scanner would be a halfass alternative
23:53	decimation	you can at least measure relative signal strength at select frequencies
23:53	asciilifeform	decimation: what do you suppose i was using.
23:54	asciilifeform	(it's an ancient rs232-controlled scanner, and handheld antenna over 50ohm coax)
23:54	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42298 @ 0.00033536 = 14.1851 BTC [+]
23:54	decimation	heh the icom pcr-1000?
23:55	asciilifeform	100
23:55	decimation	I have the 1000, it's a good unit
23:55	*	asciilifeform wonders if -everybody- has this one
23:59	decimation	there was a windows tool that turned the pcr-1000 into a spectrum analyzer - not fast but it kinda worked
23:59	asciilifeform	any machine-controllable scanner with machine-readable output is a (very) poor man's spectrum analyzer.

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