01:56 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
01:56 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 59d 22h 50m |
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~ 13 hours 59 minutes ~ |
15:55 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
15:55 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
15:55 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:55 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:55 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:55 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910 |
15:55 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:55 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:55 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:55 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.149s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910 (Operator: whaack) |
15:56 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.220s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.316s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.336s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.587s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.279s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910 |
15:56 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
15:56 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:57 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
15:57 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $46079.94 |
15:57 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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~ 2 hours 45 minutes ~ |
18:43 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-13#1052497 << the idea that perfect foundations are accessible to mortals is nonsense. |
18:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-13 00:11:55 verisimilitude: Once perfect foundations are abandoned, it's a matter of risk. |
18:44 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-13#1052532 << never investigated, nor am I yet proficient with ada |
18:44 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-13 14:56:54 asciilifeform: unless e.g. signpost happens to remember |
18:44 |
signpost |
upstack, verisimilitude, there's this consistent tone of infantile narcissism with you. I'm curious if you're aware of it. |
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18:48 |
signpost |
aside the plain fact that it's true, there may be no unbreakable hash, there are *powerful* incentives on the table to break several hashes and encryption schemes. |
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18:49 |
signpost |
that it hasn't happened yet is not proof it will never happen, certainly. |
18:50 |
signpost |
yet, where I smell narcissism with you is the absolutism by which everything you deem not "perfect" beneath you, which conveniently absolves you of engaging with the world as it is, necessitating tradeoffs. |
18:50 |
signpost |
factually, you do make the same tradeoffs in kind which you're condemning here. |
18:50 |
signpost |
tldr: yawn. |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-15#1052593 << this imho very good point. bitcoinism is very thorough 'acid test' for sha2. (tho with somewhat obvious caveats) |
19:34 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-15 14:44:11 signpost: aside the plain fact that it's true, there may be no unbreakable hash, there are *powerful* incentives on the table to break several hashes and encryption schemes. |
19:34 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: trinque: see thread. mining is not provably costing all of the participants anything. |
19:34 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: 'there are no alchemists because an alchemist could not POSSIBLY keep it in his pants' is no argument. |
19:36 |
signpost |
yeah, can't prove a negative, though can reason about likelihood. |
19:37 |
* |
asciilifeform would like a hash algo that's at least based on a number-theoretical conjecture (a la pubkey systems) rather than shell games. but none afaik ever discovered to date |
19:38 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform's discussions of this q w/ mp resulted in the latter taking a massive shit onto the chalkboard, so to speak, and calling it 'a solution' |
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~ 27 minutes ~ |
20:06 |
signpost |
can't say I ever lifted the "fabulous hash function" into my head. |
20:07 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: it was nonsense, of the 'dump errything on the shelf into the cauldron, and stir' witch's grimoire variety |
20:08 |
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asciilifeform to his undying shame engaged with the bullshit as if it were a sensible artifact proposed by a sensible person |
20:09 |
signpost |
eh, when one has a leader, one uses what powers he has to rationalize the output of same. imho the risk of this *increases* among the very smart. |
20:09 |
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signpost did also. |
20:10 |
asciilifeform |
( bonus, mp intended it to be deliberately slow hash, rather like 'argon' and similar modern-day password-derivation widgets. then asciilifeform found order-of-magnitude speedup for the bullshit and he lost interest entirely ) |
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20:10 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-08-15 asciilifeform: by not actually doing the flip-whole-thing bit |
20:10 |
signpost |
heh, the pain fetish was foundational there, beneath it all. |
20:11 |
signpost |
"this no longer produces enough pointless pain." (discards) |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
aaha. |
20:11 |
* |
asciilifeform must bbl |
20:12 |
signpost |
cheers asciilifeform |
20:12 |
* |
signpost having a cognac and enjoying the rain. |
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~ 3 hours 5 minutes ~ |
23:17 |
thimbronion |
How does asciilifeform envision privmsg commands directed at nicks to work? Supported? Ignored? |