02:33 |
mats |
it really is, havent been able to buy ammo since late march |
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~ 8 hours 16 minutes ~ |
10:50 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
10:50 |
watchglass |
Polling 12 nodes... |
10:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.120s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.119s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
10:50 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.157s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.241s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.309s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.3:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: asciilifeform) |
10:50 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: jurov) |
10:50 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) |
10:50 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 108.31.170.3 |
10:50 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.763s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 |
10:52 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
10:52 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
11:10 |
billymg |
testing znc on the new rockchip... took a minute to figure out all the znc setup/config stuff again (seems to be working though) |
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~ 1 hours 35 minutes ~ |
12:46 |
asciilifeform |
wb billymg . dun hesitate to ask q if you encounter puzzler re the rk/softs |
12:49 |
* |
asciilifeform uses znc ; but disrecommends the www config feature |
12:53 |
asciilifeform |
imho rk is perfect for znc, and even low-to-moderate traffic www |
12:57 |
asciilifeform |
for that matter, asciilifeform's logger sat on a rk from nov. '19 to feb. '20; and w/ very little palpable lag, except in searches |
13:05 |
asciilifeform |
( today, lives on 'dulap'-style 32cpu box w/ raid10 ) |
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~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~ |
14:09 |
trinque |
asciilifeform: btw your dulap image is glibc |
14:09 |
trinque |
I have not had much luck bootstrapping from a glibc system |
14:09 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: of course it is. it's a trad gentoo |
14:09 |
asciilifeform |
i thought this was obv. |
14:10 |
* |
asciilifeform only ever had musltronic 'miniature' linuxen, e.g. the 1 on 'pogo', the mips linux for 'M', and coupla similars |
14:10 |
trinque |
I didn't say this was bad; I said it didn't work for a bootstrap host. |
14:10 |
asciilifeform |
hmm i thought that trinque had a 'rotor'-style bootstrapper that goes from trad linux to musl |
14:11 |
trinque |
I've been living on musl systems for a half-decade by now |
14:11 |
trinque |
I started from one of those |
14:11 |
asciilifeform |
aa neato |
14:11 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: am i right then to suppose you have a musl-compat. emacs ? |
14:11 |
asciilifeform |
iirc that was the 1 tough nut in muslism |
14:13 |
trinque |
https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/02/05/1 << yep, iirc I used the method described here |
14:13 |
trinque |
the problem is that my old muslwad isn't formalized at all, just carried forward in tarballs |
14:14 |
trinque |
I'm going to just upload the genesis here in a sec, and folks can see what I mean. |
14:14 |
asciilifeform |
this is still nifty tho, asciilifeform genuinely had nfi how to bring up emacs on musltronic |
14:14 |
trinque |
making sure it builds; last night a novel error surfaced regarding libtool |
14:14 |
asciilifeform |
afaik that was the 1 proggy that wouldn't stand up by default |
14:14 |
* |
asciilifeform will read |
14:17 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: seems like if trinquetronic linux requires a working musl-based item to bootstrap, might make sense to distribute a dulap-style canned image to do so from |
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14:19 |
asciilifeform |
this is actually 1 of the uses i had planned for 'M' . tho later realized that 'M'-powered build of anyffin nontrivial would prolly take aeons. |
14:20 |
asciilifeform |
( on 3GHz opteron, M-linux runs at roughly speed of 486DX2... ) |
14:21 |
asciilifeform |
( the 1 upside was to be that 'M' can be run on literally any x64 linux (afaik) , and even ported to whatever future irons w/ minimal effort. ) |
14:21 |
trinque |
yep, that's what I'm thinking. folks can either use the canned image or roll up their sleeves and bootstrap themselves. |
14:22 |
* |
asciilifeform would be satisfied w/ a bootable image that can be asked to repeatably build itself to given ext. disk |
14:23 |
asciilifeform |
$image dun need to carry support for exotic irons, would be quite enuff for it to know how to init x64 cpu, ram, and talk over rs232 |
14:24 |
asciilifeform |
( in contrast to e.g. asciilifeform's dulap & rk classical gentoo canned items, where tried to include support for most common devices actually present in asciilifeform's iron fleet ) |
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~ 5 hours 6 minutes ~ |
19:30 |
trinque |
asciilifeform and shinohai, find instructions to build the musltron here http://trinque.org/src/bootstrap.txt |
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19:30 |
trinque |
I've included a "bootstrap" fs to make things easy, but the same instructions can be used on any musl linux with ave1's gnat handy. |
19:31 |
trinque |
I expect to revise this genesis if problems are found, but otherwise here's gnat and all the horrible shit necessary to build and modify it. |
19:32 |
shinohai |
ty trinque will review as soon as back @ desk |
19:33 |
trinque |
both ./install and ./install-set take a -j$NUMJOBS param, but I'd be careful about using that on the first build. I encountered a bug in texinfo just now using -j12 |
19:33 |
trinque |
after the first build of stage-1 and stage-2, should be able to use -j to speed things up |
19:35 |
trinque |
this has been a truly miserable quest. most of the gnushits require themselves to be present in order to build, "of course" |
19:35 |
trinque |
but happy to have finally packaged the thing up. |
19:36 |
trinque |
the "build" dir contains what'd be gentoo's ebuilds, but simpler, and I intend to keep them simple |
19:36 |
trinque |
the ./install script is missing a bit yet, but mostly convenience items that can come as subsequent patches |
19:39 |
trinque |
to the extent work can be moved from stage-1 to stage-2, that'd lessen the dependency on w/e host system (assuming you don't use my bootstrap) and make it easier to bootstrap elsewhere. |
19:40 |
trinque |
that's a slog though, and I've had enough of it. I'll be focusing on moving forward from here, not building bridges to $RANDODEBIAN, but I wouldn't reject that if it results in a simpler item. |
19:41 |
trinque |
anyhow, if you reach the end, you'll have gnat 2016 and a functioning gprbuild |
19:42 |
trinque |
from here, oughta let as many people as are interested chew on it, and then it's time to graft on the vtools tree. |
19:42 |
trinque |
et cetera, ad infinitum. |
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~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~ |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
a+++ trinque ! will test tomorrow. |
21:00 |
asciilifeform |
pretty compact ( given as inside are gcc et al ) testbed, too -- < 300MB ! |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
gpg -a --verify genesis.vpatch.asc genesis.vpatch.gz |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
gpg: Signature made Mon 07 Sep 2020 12:13:49 PM EDT using RSA key ID FAB953C4 |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
gpg: BAD signature from "Michael Trinque <mike@trinque.org>" |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
^ trinque might want to see whether you posted mismatched payload/sig pair |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
'bootstrap' verifies tho. |
21:06 |
asciilifeform |
or hm, is the sig for unpacked... |
21:07 |
asciilifeform |
gpg: Good signature... |
21:07 |
asciilifeform |
nao worx. |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
( logical : it's a vtronic sig. ) |
21:08 |
* |
asciilifeform will return to item when awake enuff to actually think, lol |
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~ 42 minutes ~ |
21:51 |
trinque |
enjoy asciilifeform |