#asciilifeform | 2020-09-07

!w poll

10:50

Polling 12 nodes...

10:50

205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.120s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.119s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152 (Operator: asciilifeform)

10:50

192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.157s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.241s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.309s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:50

108.31.170.3:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: asciilifeform)

10:50

176.9.59.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: jurov)

10:50

103.36.92.112:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)

10:50

!w probe 108.31.170.3

10:50

108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.763s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=647152

10:52

!w probe 205.134.172.28

10:52

205.134.172.28:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)

~ 18 minutes ~

11:10

billymg

testing znc on the new rockchip... took a minute to figure out all the znc setup/config stuff again (seems to be working though)

~ 1 hours 35 minutes ~

12:46

wb billymg . dun hesitate to ask q if you encounter puzzler re the rk/softs

12:49

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asciilifeform uses znc ; but disrecommends the www config feature

12:53

imho rk is perfect for znc, and even low-to-moderate traffic www

12:57

for that matter, asciilifeform's logger sat on a rk from nov. '19 to feb. '20; and w/ very little palpable lag, except in searches

13:05

( today, lives on 'dulap'-style 32cpu box w/ raid10 )

~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~

14:09

asciilifeform: btw your dulap image is glibc

14:09

I have not had much luck bootstrapping from a glibc system

14:09

trinque: of course it is. it's a trad gentoo

14:09

i thought this was obv.

14:10

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asciilifeform only ever had musltronic 'miniature' linuxen, e.g. the 1 on 'pogo', the mips linux for 'M', and coupla similars

14:10

I didn't say this was bad; I said it didn't work for a bootstrap host.

14:10

hmm i thought that trinque had a 'rotor'-style bootstrapper that goes from trad linux to musl

14:11

I've been living on musl systems for a half-decade by now

14:11

I started from one of those

14:11

aa neato

14:11

trinque: am i right then to suppose you have a musl-compat. emacs ?

14:11

iirc that was the 1 tough nut in muslism

14:13

https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/02/05/1 << yep, iirc I used the method described here

14:13

the problem is that my old muslwad isn't formalized at all, just carried forward in tarballs

14:14

I'm going to just upload the genesis here in a sec, and folks can see what I mean.

14:14

this is still nifty tho, asciilifeform genuinely had nfi how to bring up emacs on musltronic

14:14

making sure it builds; last night a novel error surfaced regarding libtool

14:14

afaik that was the 1 proggy that wouldn't stand up by default

14:14

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asciilifeform will read

14:17

trinque: seems like if trinquetronic linux requires a working musl-based item to bootstrap, might make sense to distribute a dulap-style canned image to do so from

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14:19

this is actually 1 of the uses i had planned for 'M' . tho later realized that 'M'-powered build of anyffin nontrivial would prolly take aeons.

14:20

( on 3GHz opteron, M-linux runs at roughly speed of 486DX2... )

14:21

( the 1 upside was to be that 'M' can be run on literally any x64 linux (afaik) , and even ported to whatever future irons w/ minimal effort. )

14:21

yep, that's what I'm thinking. folks can either use the canned image or roll up their sleeves and bootstrap themselves.

14:22

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asciilifeform would be satisfied w/ a bootable image that can be asked to repeatably build itself to given ext. disk

14:23

$image dun need to carry support for exotic irons, would be quite enuff for it to know how to init x64 cpu, ram, and talk over rs232

14:24

( in contrast to e.g. asciilifeform's dulap & rk classical gentoo canned items, where tried to include support for most common devices actually present in asciilifeform's iron fleet )

~ 5 hours 6 minutes ~

19:30

asciilifeform and shinohai, find instructions to build the musltron here http://trinque.org/src/bootstrap.txt

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19:30

I've included a "bootstrap" fs to make things easy, but the same instructions can be used on any musl linux with ave1's gnat handy.

19:31

I expect to revise this genesis if problems are found, but otherwise here's gnat and all the horrible shit necessary to build and modify it.

19:32

shinohai

ty trinque will review as soon as back @ desk

19:33

both ./install and ./install-set take a -j$NUMJOBS param, but I'd be careful about using that on the first build. I encountered a bug in texinfo just now using -j12

19:33

after the first build of stage-1 and stage-2, should be able to use -j to speed things up

19:35

this has been a truly miserable quest. most of the gnushits require themselves to be present in order to build, "of course"

19:35

but happy to have finally packaged the thing up.

19:36

the "build" dir contains what'd be gentoo's ebuilds, but simpler, and I intend to keep them simple

19:36

the ./install script is missing a bit yet, but mostly convenience items that can come as subsequent patches

19:39

to the extent work can be moved from stage-1 to stage-2, that'd lessen the dependency on w/e host system (assuming you don't use my bootstrap) and make it easier to bootstrap elsewhere.

19:40

that's a slog though, and I've had enough of it. I'll be focusing on moving forward from here, not building bridges to $RANDODEBIAN, but I wouldn't reject that if it results in a simpler item.

19:41

anyhow, if you reach the end, you'll have gnat 2016 and a functioning gprbuild

19:42

from here, oughta let as many people as are interested chew on it, and then it's time to graft on the vtools tree.

19:42

et cetera, ad infinitum.

~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~

20:58