00:14 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Devuan's been around a while. http://qntra.net/2015/02/gpg-criticism-reaches-new-low-as-use-cases-expand/ |
00:14 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: 10 miles is the single day tourism distance to beat |
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~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~ |
01:20 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: pretty sure we did >10 last time |
01:23 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I suspect we indeed beat 10, but we did so with greater looping through the feria which makes map reconciliation harder |
01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Due to time constrains we however "cheated" and took a taxi from Pocitos to the far end of the feria which simplifies things a bit |
01:25 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: enjoyed visit of jfw? ( and is he still there ? maybe i can catch him also..? ) |
01:26 |
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asciilifeform to appear on friday |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It was indeed enjoyable. He's leaving early tomorrow, so we did a greatly compressed tour of the city |
01:27 |
asciilifeform |
aa was in hurry |
01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Indeed, and the Mirador was closed despite posting extended hours now that the rennovation was done. |
01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
So to see the old city and get a view of the ancient fort across the bay we had to hoof it. |
01:28 |
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asciilifeform will leave on tues. 17 in wee hours |
01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
On the plus side we saw the bulk on the Navy's actual ships in port. |
01:29 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Thing about ways to destroy the incredibly sturdy new RK drives without building a fire where It'll get the wrong sort of attention |
01:30 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: microwave |
01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
I actually never acquired one here |
01:30 |
asciilifeform |
a |
01:31 |
asciilifeform |
did any rk people actually req cremation ? |
01:31 |
asciilifeform |
i thought it was by-req. strictly |
01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
No one specifically requested, but it seems some sorta physical destruction of the drives is the ethical thing to do. |
01:33 |
asciilifeform |
nuffin short of thermite ( or lengthy exercise w/ bandsaw ) i suspect will eat those. |
01:33 |
asciilifeform |
i assume yer thinking of the ones with iron shell |
01:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Those ones indeed. It might be possible to pop the electronic part out through the USB opening. I'll give that a try. |
01:35 |
asciilifeform |
if you've a drill an' a vise, can also that |
01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
That's probably cheaper than the microwave |
01:35 |
asciilifeform |
vise alone, if good one, will do.. |
01:36 |
asciilifeform |
or anvil/sledge. |
01:36 |
asciilifeform |
use what's at hand. |
01:39 |
BingoBoingo |
The metal's actually rather soft on these. Went to pry the chip out and the flathead screwdriver instead made a cutting tear. |
01:40 |
asciilifeform |
suggests hammer time |
01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Pliers got the chip out. tiny little thing. |
01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Surprisinly no epoxy or glue in the construction. Small plastic spring/wedge is all that secure the working part to the shell |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
02:04 |
Vexual |
one handed sledge that powers from the shoulder rather than over is known as "lump" hammer to me |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: It'll be substantially warmer than the last time you were here. Pack that bathing suit https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara-con-calor-y-sin-precipitaciones-segun-Inumet-uc738053 |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
02:46 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform has globe, so knew -- and already packed.. |
02:50 |
asciilifeform |
3d of time on the ground imho oughta suffice to pack machines and then r&r |
02:51 |
asciilifeform |
(4d, but i expect to sleep most of fri.) |
02:52 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Packing will take an afternoon, maximum |
02:52 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: is that vz chix there ? |
02:53 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: She arrived back in town last week. Her girlfriend took the week off. Met up with the Friday. |
02:54 |
asciilifeform |
neato. |
02:54 |
asciilifeform |
re packing, i expect will be quick, i'm bringing the same rotten rags the boxen orig. went in. |
02:55 |
BingoBoingo |
If you have any weight left after packing machines, the recommended shelf stable item to take out is the local olive oil |
02:57 |
asciilifeform |
noted. i expect will have weight remain |
02:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyways, do let me know if there is anything you want me to put together into a care basket to drop off at the hotel. |
02:57 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: i'ma hit that flea market even. |
02:58 |
BingoBoingo |
I wouldn't expect anything less. |
02:59 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: need anyffin from gringolandia ? i have gigatonne of slack weight in usa->uy dir.. |
02:59 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if you want sumthing bought in usa an' ferried over, gpggram asciilifeform , we can make arrangement. |
03:00 |
asciilifeform |
feels like a waste to only carry rotting old blankets, lol |
03:00 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Aite, I'll put together a short list of things unavailable here. |
03:00 |
asciilifeform |
cool |
03:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Won't be a long list, but there are a couple things unavailable here that a Walmart will have |
03:01 |
asciilifeform |
lulazon part #s also ok |
03:02 |
asciilifeform |
( i've a permanent next-day-shitting subscr. there ) |
03:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Aite |
03:05 |
BingoBoingo |
jfw did leave the 48 port switch here for being too heavy. |
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~ 12 hours 30 minutes ~ |
15:35 |
danielpbarron |
nothing to back up, i messed it up right off the bat and then got too busy to ask about it |
15:35 |
danielpbarron |
suppose i need to sign a message to confirm this though |
15:48 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3IuI |
15:52 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: got it! and will be done today. |
15:58 |
shinohai |
./ticker btc usd |
15:58 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: 7425.52 |
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~ 3 hours 11 minutes ~ |
19:09 |
BingoBoingo_ |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=SwwQ << asciilifeform the nice things to have list. |
19:11 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: got it. |
19:11 |
BingoBoingo |
tyvm |
19:14 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: para. 1 & 2 items ordered (arrive tomorrow) , para 3 will req. going to town, will do in coming days |
19:16 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: A+++ |
19:16 |
asciilifeform |
np |
19:22 |
asciilifeform |
btw very interesting list. i had nfi these were scarce in BingoBoingostan. |
19:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: They are indeed. The where and what of supply chains running thin is an odd thing. |
19:25 |
BingoBoingo |
I've managed to find some nearly civilized sunglasses that do block the UV, but... Just not a big fan of the tint or build quality on them |
19:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Hard for the locals to know that thing's they have never had are missing. |
19:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Also https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Operativo-realizado-en-Kibon-para-prevenir-incidentes-se-repetira-hasta-fin-de-ano-uc738087 |
19:29 |
BingoBoingo |
You too will have the chance to view incredibly energetic helicopter spotlight dancing |
19:32 |
asciilifeform |
still lively eh |
19:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: No arrests, rather muted crowd when I walked by. Just derpy helicopter and other acessories making an effort to be seen. |
19:33 |
BingoBoingo |
The amount of time the helicopter spent with the spotlight on the water seemed to me a signal that they weren't at that time actually looking at or for anyone in particular. |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
around here choppers also used quite similarly ( i.e. loiter around and make noise, presumably as 'fanfare for the majesty of the inca' somehow.. ) |
19:36 |
BingoBoingo |
I got hit with the spotlight a couple times. Numerous apartments got hit with the spotlight. Kept its altitude lower than the tops of the WTC towers, except when nearing the towers. |
19:37 |
asciilifeform |
i live near a place they use as fuel station, it was annoying at 1st but naodays sleep through it. sorta like when i lived by the railroad, 40m from the track. 1st coupla wks was annoying, then after properly bolted down shelves, etc. stopped noticing. |
19:39 |
BingoBoingo |
It took me a bit to get used to this barrio being where airplanes start to get rather low on their approach to the airport, but no longer a particular bother. |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
re choppers -- at uni there was an antique wreckage (from 'nam' ? nfi) , liked to climb inside, controls sorta worked. but never had occasion to ride in a working one |
19:43 |
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asciilifeform off to the dc to repair danielpbarron's unit |
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~ 1 hours 45 minutes ~ |
21:28 |
feedbot |
http://qntra.net/2019/12/one-week-after-grave-vulnerability-revealed-wireguard-moving-into-linux-kernel-for-5-6/ << Qntra -- One Week After Grave Vulnerability Revealed, WireGuard Moving Into Linux Kernel For 5.6 |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=BA8h and plz confirm. |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i sent back your elbowed keyboard coin from earlier today , via deedbot pm, plz confirm . |
21:50 |
snsabot |
(trilema) 2019-12-09 deedbot: jurov paid asciilifeform 1 |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
22:09 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, ack |
22:12 |
danielpbarron |
so can I use emerge to install stuff as long as i don't sync? |
22:24 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: correct |
22:25 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: the mirrors presently in make.conf for the most part still work. ( and you can of course build proggies from source in the traditional way, bypassing gentoo's collection when need ) |
22:25 |
asciilifeform |
when the cuntoo folx birth a reasonably-complete kit, i'ma port it to rk and offer as option. until then, this. |
22:27 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: the reason why must NOT 'emerge --sync' is that gentoo's upstream went full-bore tard in late '17. if you sync, 'emerge' simply becomes paperweight, as no longer accepts the systemdism-ban flags |
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22:30 |
danielpbarron |
i noticed |
22:32 |
asciilifeform |
this situation already was in place at the time of pilot plant at piz, so i assumed danielpbarron knew. for future rk users will include in setup instructions tho. |
22:33 |
danielpbarron |
i didn't have a rk on pizarro so never used emerge |
22:33 |
asciilifeform |
hm for some reason i was certain danielpbarron at one pt had rk |
22:34 |
asciilifeform |
but yes, can use emerge, and lemme know if need vintage tars at any point. |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
iirc for mp's wp in particular, need manually-built mysql ( BingoBoingo , diana_coman , lobbes , published material on this subj ) |
22:43 |
danielpbarron |
trying to install vim, i get this failure http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=7JTa |
22:48 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: the usual thing to do in cases like this, is, e.g. ls /usr/portage/app-editors/vim and see what older vers. there were, and then e.g. emerge =app-editors/vim-8.0.1298 rather than emerge vim |
22:48 |
asciilifeform |
( alternatively can track down the orig. tarball somewhere on the net , but this can be difficult ) |
22:49 |
asciilifeform |
( when found a tarball manually, drop it into /usr/portage/distfiles and retry the emerge ) |
22:50 |
asciilifeform |
this is what life is like with 'frozen in amber' vintage gentoos. ( not only on rk ) |
22:52 |
danielpbarron |
ok |
22:54 |
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asciilifeform never discovered this particular breakage because, must admit, never used 'vim'. but currently reproducing it, for to find workaround for other folx, supposing danielpbarron not finds 1st. |
22:56 |
shinohai |
I use vim, but always build manually because emerge doesn't enable configure options you need for slimv. |
22:58 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: can plz share your recipe for danielpbarron ? |
23:01 |
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asciilifeform testing workaround (made via above algo) atm |
23:02 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: emerge =ctags-20161028; emerge vim |
23:03 |
shinohai |
Is pretty simple, I do: http://btc.info.gf/paste/aec7af@raw |
23:04 |
shinohai |
(then `make && sudo make install` of course) |
23:06 |
* |
asciilifeform found that errything he personally uses on rk builds w/out gymnastics like this; but naturally impossible to guarantee for whole known universe of shitware. fwiw ^above worx for vim. ( and shinohai's method prolly also worx. ) |
23:06 |
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asciilifeform tested, vim built thusly runs. |
23:06 |
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asciilifeform bbl:meat |