#asciilifeform | 2022-09-13

i passed the shittest that is figuring out how to connect to this irc server, i'm here

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lmfao

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welcome back sir

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GOOGLERS THE PASSWORD TO 205.134.172.3 IS 115200 THAT IS THE BAUD RATE OF asciilifeform'S PRODUCT, ```fuckgoats''', WHICH WAS FOR SALE ON <http://nosuchlabs.com>

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mats: greetings

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what does the illustrious hotwheels do these days

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don't deadname me mats

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my WoT name is also copypaste lmfao

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how new are you

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god ARE ANY of you actually really from way before mircea died

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or not

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i found this place thanks to danielpbarron who doesnt even seem to be on

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every nick in here predates the drowning

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good to know

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that's a start !

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anyway, the Most Serene Republic is my favorite internet cult and i'm glad it's still around. as far as internet cults go y'all are weird but harmless weird. well, i mean, with Mircea dead y'all seem harmless these days. no one is putting bounties on the heads of BTC core devs right? that's over?

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the power rangers won the day

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no point fighting last decade's battles again

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good, sound logic

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i have a bone to pick with BingoBoingo

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a brittle bone, perhaps. or a big bone! a big brittle bone?

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let's not worry about that now

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you put me in the WoT as having """rolled the other way"""

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i am clearly here BingoBoingo

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therefore that's false

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please rescind this libel

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thank you

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i lied, there's actually a buncha new names in here

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totally forgot

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nice guys though

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lmao it's okay

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i figured as much

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i had no idea you'd become even more famous in your own right

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oh thank you, you're too kind

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copypaste.wtf foundation.mfek.org github.com/ctrlcctrlv

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for my latest work. also i'm posting about this on twitter as @fr_brennan

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oh christ

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afk

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why the cold feet

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!q seen BingoBoingo

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BingoBoingo last seen here on 2022-09-10 10:53:51: Assume narrow escapes. Hardware forfeit as abandoned seems a safe and far assumption. Brain may not be what it used to. Not much more than trying to build life outside of Mars dome restrictions after having spent 2013-2019 endomed

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i actually like the idea of the fuckgoats

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i want to pay for another production run

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so i can have one

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asciilifeform: maybe you are kind of cool despite this hugbox irc server that's hard to enter

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i have a few fg in a box if you really want one

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i do!

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just the one, but i do want a fuckgoats, it looks really cool

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i am imagining another device now, have you ever played boggle?

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it'll cost you a bitcent

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~$223 at current. can i talk you down at all by playing the cripple card, it legitimately would nt be easy for me to follow the schematics

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lol

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my cripple card cancels out your cripple card

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also i will surely post about hwo it works on my twitter, where it came from (not you personally duh but like, this community), what it is etc, perhaps renewing interest

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what is your disability

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i'd rather not discuss it now, its in the logs

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keyword?

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this seems self-exclusive http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076316

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Logged on 2022-01-25 15:53:02 mats: hes also a cripple

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keyword dongs

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have you heard of talon voice my broke dick friend

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ah i have actually i was just marveling at how rude some people were to me in these logs

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lmao

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look at this http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-14#1079210

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Logged on 2022-02-14 01:23:28 vex: you're a head in a wheelchair

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vex: say that to the head, he's here

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lol

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oh wat

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you're not good enough at irc to even idle

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lmao

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he has his moments

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oh wait **

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talon voice! yes i have heard of. great project.

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Congratulations!

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You're now a patron of aegis

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thanks for the reminder

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kicked him $400/mo

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good shit

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he's about 80k in the hole on talon, after donations accounted for

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wow really

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tell him to contact me

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guy's a saint

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if he wants i could give him a real grant from foundation.mfek.org

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he's a busy guy, you contact him

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lol

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well you don't really know him then ok

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i misunderstood your associatio

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n

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no, i'll wait for him to see my donation and contact if he's in need

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i'm just another fella who donates and idles in the talon slack

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i c

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and uses the product

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k, i told him

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thank you for your donation my friend

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yw

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oh and regarding the fuckgoats

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yes mats

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i will take it

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at your price, but i still think you should bring it down given i just supported that project, but if you are hellbent on the hgh price then that's fine lol

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what a manipulator you are

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send me a pgpgram with the dest mailing addr and its yours gratis

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privmsg + pastebin would be ideal

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mats: mircea didn't first talk to me due to the merchant of venice for nothing

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;-)

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or at least first write an entire blog based on my offhand comments

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that man was something else

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i miss him a lot , his antics amused and disgusted me for so many years, not ahving him around is sad

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and asciilifeform doesn't seem nearly as amusing (although he's trying). he's just *Mircea imitatio* not *Mircea in omnibus sed nomen*

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copypaste: is interesting that you thought asciilifeform's www 'imitation of mp's' ( pre-dates the latter by some years, and not even overlaps in subject... )

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copypaste: do we know ea. other from somewhere ?

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113563 << some of the ~people~ still around ( tho mostly live here naodays rather than in #a.) regret to inform that mp's reich is kaput ( and yr+ before fuhrer himself kaput ) , see #t logs if interested.

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Logged on 2022-09-13 00:07:45 copypaste: anyway, the Most Serene Republic is my favorite internet cult and i'm glad it's still around. as far as internet cults go y'all are weird but harmless weird. well, i mean, with Mircea dead y'all seem harmless these days. no one is putting bounties on the heads of BTC core devs right? that's over?

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113591 << ask dpb (unless, loox like, already got 1 from mats ?)

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Logged on 2022-09-13 00:21:27 copypaste: so i can have one

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there were exactly 200 sold, they aint an unobtainable rarity lol

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asciilifeform rather curious for wat copypaste needed a FG

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fwiw the docs/schematics still up on www, who wants, can make own

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113551 << lol is already mentioned over9000 times in log ( was it really at all hard to find ? )

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Logged on 2022-09-13 00:03:07 copypaste: GOOGLERS THE PASSWORD TO 205.134.172.3 IS 115200 THAT IS THE BAUD RATE OF asciilifeform'S PRODUCT, ```fuckgoats''', WHICH WAS FOR SALE ON <http://nosuchlabs.com>

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asciilifeform: all i want is someone who can rise up to take mircea popescu, that great man's, place. a person who can make me laugh so hard i near piss myself by threatening a bitcoin developer with death ovr a minor af technical dispute then in the next breath claim it's not a real threat as the 1BTC value had at the time a low fiat cost. seeing as you talk so similar to

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mp… and are already trying to place yourself earlier in time than him, you may be a candidate yet!

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but i am indeed sorry if i somehow misunderstand your place in the mirceaverse. perhaps you do predate him!

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perhaps he ripped you off even! i don't really know as i dunno you

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i knew mircea and trilema not really much else and followed his antics for years

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i would say that you strike me as being like Mircea because you treat your activities with the same pomp and circumstance which has all the makings of a good time

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The Most Serene Republic - it seems - does live in

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copypaste: we had a collaboration re irons/softs, '13--'18, 'no such labs'; if curious how/why, see log

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will do when i have a moment but im more interested in the presen

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how did you become de facto leader?

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i mean, this channel bears your name

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am i welcome here even tho i have paid a nominal sum for a meme "improvement" to Monero?

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(vanity addresses - for a privacy coin!)

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copypaste: this chan was originally on freenode, when mp suggested that folx open spares for #t, long before demise of s.nsa

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https://github.com/SChernykh/vanity_xmr_cuda/blob/22de4d6c9a3c6df887e21f1e54b5264e1424c21d/src/gpu_crypto.h#L2

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copypaste: after asciilifeform split from mp, various folx joined ( some to discuss projs where asciilifeform involved, others from idle curiosity , plus some n00bs over time )

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Logged on 2021-11-14 23:49:14 asciilifeform: cdd: if yer impatient, here's an mp flunkie's 'interview' of asciilifeform following the latter's expulsion from mp's imaginary empire

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thank you. now regarding why i wanted a fuckgoats. i like the idea of it. i understand why you made it, i think, as well.

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cpu's are pwned, right? by the actual NSA, not S.NSA.

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most of the conversation on pestnet naodays

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there is an intel backdoor

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copypaste: + amd's psp boobytrap, + whatever undoc'd. kilometres of thrd re subj in logs

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yes

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so i get it

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FG does't save you from cpu boobytrap tho, it is only a rng

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true

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that's only reason i wanted it, as i think it's cool, to show normal people you made it to counter what you saw as corrupt system. of course other measures such as faraday cage i assume would be needed to trust that the cpu doesn't tamper with the fuckgoats.

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(i.e. it can't receive command and control commands to do the tamper)

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and using a sufficiently old CPU

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perhaps one from pre-bitcoin

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a reasonable rng is 'part of balanced diet'

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or pre-internet! why not, the baud rate is low enough

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indeed worx w/ old (e.g. msdos) irons, asciilifeform used.

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yes it's a cool idea

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i can see why mp was threatened by you lol

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(you'll need a ttl->rs232 converter)

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i'll acquire what i need and document the process of using it, should be fun. i'm gong to call it "This is what being your own bank actually means"

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you should be aware tho i mostly make fonts these days. http://copypaste.wtf

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copypaste: asciilifeform attempted to commercialize FG at mp's invitation, the latter thought there was a market for civilized iron. after several yrs became obv. that there aint a market in any real sense.

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oh i have no interest in making a large profit. i mostly do these things for fun

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there's no great profit in making compuer fonts either

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i do it as i find it technically chalelnging / interesting

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there's certainly no profit at all in adding characters to Unicode but i'm directly responsible for more than 30 and indirectly for around 100 (and others are responsible for orders of magnitude more)

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copypaste: then mp decided to branch out into e.g. isp biz ( see logs re 'pizarro' ) , this blew up spectacularly, eventually touching off demise of mp's reich entirely

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well he was romanian

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ceausescu, popescu…

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;-)

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lol

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113707 << the trouble with irons is that they cost considerable dough to offer.

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Logged on 2022-09-13 08:53:22 copypaste: there's no great profit in making compuer fonts either

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ah yes very true. such is the case with all tangible goods.

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if my fonts were made of iron i'm sure i'd have never made any

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i'm a fat cripple not a ripped businessjock so i couldn't even lift the lead casts lol

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see e.g. thread

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Logged on 2022-05-11 20:40:08 asciilifeform: phf: to 'break even', operation would've had not only to run BingoBoingo , but to cover the ~3k$/mo rack, the machines, resupply flights, (future) expansions, etc.

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and here, and elsewhere.

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Logged on 2021-07-26 15:33:18 asciilifeform: bonechewer: this as you can already see aint esp. difficult to build. problem will be similar to FG (which, or something like it, you in fact will need to include in each unit). you'll need to sell'em for 1k$+ to break even. (or, alternatively, 100$ but sell 1e6 units.)

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why is Pest IPv4 only?

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copypaste: ipv6 is halfbaked and historically bottomless well of 0days

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asciilifeform: if i can speak frankly, Mircea struck me as a highly gifted but also mentally challenged man who struck it very, very rich but due to his challenges often madea a fool of himself.

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despite this he did some good things. but also a lot of bad things. and mostly just funny things.

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some of the things he did were all three. in fact most.

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copypaste: folx who win spectacularly when young, very often contract megalomania and end very similarly to mp, this aint a seekrit of any kind

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asciilifeform aint specialist in psychoanalysis, however, of mp or otherwise, and fella spoke at length for himself ( his www is still up, maintained by fans , can read if you like )

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certainly. i just wanted to know if you see it as i did. i think you're technically gifted, thanks for letting me idle in your MSR v2. sorry i was unable to find the key at first lol. you expected perhaps a bit too much familiarity with yourself, but that's a simple error to make. after all my case was rare, wanting to join just to talk to people who knew mp back in teh day

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about him.

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and yes i refer to trilema.com a lot. i have favorite quotes fom it

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if you can, you must!

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the merchant of venice was actually just!

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nothing exists but trust!

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the true trilema ^

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copypaste: feel free to sit in #a if the current-day subjs interest you.

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they do!

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i will also figure out Pest

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asciilifeform still maintains trb, for instance.

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i don't fully understand your problems with ipv6 but will read the log and self-educate

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not all that much else from the old days tho

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ah yes i wantead to draw something to ur attention

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this link is broken http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/

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it's under Links: Tickets

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indeed, was broken even before

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orig. was link to a thing mod6 baked, but never took off

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( he tried to make a work queue thing )

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that page does need some massage

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copypaste: if you read the pest article -- is actually good illustration of diff. b/w mp's philosophy of 'wat-do' and asciilifeform's

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Logged on 2022-03-31 23:37:11 asciilifeform: mp went on for kilometres re 'effete codemonkey's bias in favour of buttonpressing solutions' but suffered equally idiotic 'meatmonkey's bias for 'manly'-flavoured solutions'

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orig. problem was 'net is heavily censored, incl. via ddos'. 2 possible answers, 'build isp, take over world so it stays connected' and 'layer new net on top of existing'.

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folx who take cocaine, tend to favour the former style of 'solution'.

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Logged on 2020-02-04 22:14:39 asciilifeform: or, for that matter, his (admitted!) cocaine. imho still shows typical effects, even tho supposedly quit.

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( see also re substance abuse, in both literal and metaphorical sense, in #t )

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Logged on 2021-02-04 13:46:08 asciilifeform: mp was talented mountebank, a la barnum, and in #t maintained an addictive, to many folx, atmosphere of 'движуха' (untranslatable, but roughly 'errything in motion!!', 'happening!')

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asciilifeform must bbl

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who will peer w/me?

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i believe i have it wokring right, this pest thing

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although thimbronion added quite an amusing antifeature

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passwords may not contain capital letters

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oh, well they indeed may, but will fail as incorrect

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blatta/lib/client.py @ line 105

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it lowercases the sent pw but not the server's pw given on argv

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lol what a funny bug

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jonsykkel

hers a key 4 u copypaste http://zzz.st/up/XuuATTl0/copypaste.asc

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113694 << ftr 2 key aspects of the design were : 1) FG doesn't receive commands from the connected comp at all, has only 3 wires (-, +, output) 2) the connected machine / os has nfi it's an rng, is simply a serial tty, only the operators knows that it is intended as rng

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Logged on 2022-09-13 08:50:13 copypaste: (i.e. it can't receive command and control commands to do the tamper)

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( this was wai asciilifeform considered various folx's efforts to integrate FG support into e.g. linux kernel, misguided )

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( see also , asciilifeform's in-house name for this principle being 'specificity of diddling' )

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(trilema) 2017-05-19 asciilifeform: the multiplication problem is incidentally a textbook instance of 'specificity of diddling'. if someone offered any of you a cpu that has a 'rsa instruction', you'd barf. because very clearly paints a target for the enemy, giving him info he has no business having re what you intend to eat, when, with what spoon

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(trilema) 2017-06-30 asciilifeform: also nicely illustrates 'specificity of diddling'. you buy a bucket of 74xxxxolade. enemy wants to diddle'em en route -- but which ONES? and how ? ( he has nfi where each set of gates will end up going in the scheme )

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( and see example from ancient world. )

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(trilema) 2017-02-23 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-09-13#1113667 << nobody's aboutta 'replace mp' or concretely resurrect his reich, much of what he did was a product of ~unique combo of dysfunctions, stoked by pile of moolah in the style of h.hughes

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Logged on 2022-09-13 08:39:02 copypaste: asciilifeform: all i want is someone who can rise up to take mircea popescu, that great man's, place. a person who can make me laugh so hard i near piss myself by threatening a bitcoin developer with death ovr a minor af technical dispute then in the next breath claim it's not a real threat as the 1BTC value had at the time a low fiat cost. seeing as you talk so similar to

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Logged on 2022-03-31 23:12:16 asciilifeform: this is vehery common failure mode of 'look i'm rich' folx

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just as nobody 'replaced' hughes, or e.g. armand hammer

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