#asciilifeform | 2022-08-01

Logged on 2022-07-30 03:43:06 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-29#1112633 << leaky abstraction. IRC only allows /me at start of line, does not recognize concept of replies/citations.

10:16

your complaint is almost equivalent to "you are leaking ketones out your pores again; have you considered renewing your spacewalk certification?"

10:20

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-28#1112493 << iiuc, the primary higher purpose of the stateless communications system is for such declarations to be superfluous, if not downright foolish; at best, maybe the apology only belongs within pestnet?

10:20

Logged on 2022-07-28 16:57:24 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-07-28#1010895 << I turned my Pest station off temporarily, but will start it again soon.

10:21

consider the difference between the leak of "I skipped one syllable while talking quickly", and "I did not attend work last week, because my cousins were busy killing each other, and needed my opinion."

10:23

shinohai

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-01#1112688 << that was my thought, am aware `/me` only worx @ start of line ...

10:23

Logged on 2022-08-01 10:15:15 adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-30#1112639 << what exactly is the leak... that shino's using IRC? noshit.tiff, dude... yet "/me" is still fewer keystrokes than "shinohai".

10:24

all through my life, I'm reminded of the story about George Harrison writing "I, Me, Mine" immediately after a yoga class where people were talking.

10:24

of course, the important question is, who the fuck said the word "mine", in a yoga class!?

10:25

I can understand why people would always be yakking, "I think, I want, I can," etc

10:25

and maybe even, "I can not imitate that contortion, it will hurt me."

10:25

why would anyone say the word, "MINE"!?

10:25

"DON'T DRINK THAT BOTTLE, THE WATER IS ALL MINE!!!!!"

10:25

yoga class, y'know.

10:26

shinohai

adlai: "mine" as adjective around here is exclusive purvey of veris[tab] iirc.

10:31

dunno, that word appears in the only haiku I ever published.

10:32

maybe I am almost correct?

10:32

iirc, something along the lines of "pa taught me, to think // ma land, how to sow mine fields // lots to think about"

10:33

and in leftover scratchy moebius record news, I'm wondering whether anybody needs me working.

10:34

the previously stated fact that alf doesn't want piano lessons, does not mean that nobody else needs nothing either!

10:36

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adlai hopes that enough people have been reading the "lisp is amazing omg" conversations by now, that "work for adlai" will be slightly more interesting than "please translate this javascript hairball into ada"

10:38

in otha blubs, the spidernet has developed one charming user-agent in the past few weeks... simply "java", and a bunch of numbers.

10:38

once upon a time, the user-agent from a spider was the longest part of the log line!

10:40

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adlai supposes, someday, /my will will be illiteracy.

10:41

more observations about spam: after starting to actively solicit work requests, one of the first items appeared directly at my attention, was "pay us to give you a master's certificate in bureaucracy navigation, without us asking whether you have completed undergrad."

10:43

they probably had read my resume, which specifically only lists starting years for academic study, without 'commencement' or whatever the fancy word is.

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10:43

matriculation? aeromallistic loss of squarey-hairy-hat?

10:44

ceremonial campus evacuation.

10:50

I suppose most of the curious and surprising user-agent strings are spoor from automated vulnerability scanners, as opposed to regular crawlers, and it'd be foolish of me to consider them speared.

10:50

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adlai will read scrollbacks more often, due to the solicitation of work.

~ 2 hours 30 minutes ~

13:21

adlai: have you stood up a pest station yet?

13:21

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-01#1112714 << usually "graduation"

13:21

Logged on 2022-08-01 10:43:14 adlai: they probably had read my resume, which specifically only lists starting years for academic study, without 'commencement' or whatever the fancy word is.

13:22

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-01#1112688 << and "I" is even shorter

13:22

Logged on 2022-08-01 10:15:15 adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-30#1112639 << what exactly is the leak... that shino's using IRC? noshit.tiff, dude... yet "/me" is still fewer keystrokes than "shinohai".

~ 3 hours 2 minutes ~

16:25

PeterL: ... is your question in response to any need for my voice?

16:26

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adlai typed 'adlai' one time into a #pest search, zero results, shrugged.

16:28

now, yawl may claim that I'd be more helpful by running prototypes than thinking about specifications... yet this is not bitcoin, nor quite anything financially indistinguishable from woodcoin, is it?

16:28

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adlai namedropped that, of all possibilities, only because it's probably one of the few likely suspects for automated pentesters wandering onto his blog

16:28

adlai: just curious

16:30

honestly, I considered simply running one, maybe even both, of the initial implementations linked from alf's blog; and decided that alf's request for comments was not identical to "please donate bandwidth, at the price of eating bandwidth."

16:30

it just seems like we are gradually moving everything to #pest, was wondering if you were going to show up there or just disappear?

16:30

after all, pestnet is not bittorrent!

16:30

you could try to do a pest in lisp?

16:30

you could read the logs, and see that I'm looking for work, while... not exactly enjoying keystrokes.

16:31

that was not clear to me at all

16:31

/away response time varies [explicitly, into the logs, thank you for reading them!]

16:31

just saying, you have an oblique way of putting things, wo that is not how it came across

16:32

do you have a need for my keystrokes?

16:32

I'm not sure exactly what you are asking?

16:32

maybe I oughtta link some sorta "spec work considered harmful" webpage; they do exist.

16:33

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adlai will be enjoying the musical keyboard; ttyl

16:33

sure, cause I have no idea what you mean by that (maybe because I am not pro programmer?)

16:34

in the freelance online work world, "spec work" means "your portfolio is impressive, now show us how quickly you can solve part of this problem... the more you solve, the more impressed we'll be!"

16:35

some people even consider "bounties" to fall under this category, although bounties are typically public, whereas spec work might be coughed up on a per-rando basis.

16:36

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adlai does not remember the URL of the glitzy "spec work sux" webpage, mainly aimed at designers and graphic artists, and their prospective employers.

16:36

obviously, the same ideas apply to musicians.

16:37

are you saying that the suggestion to stand up your own pest station counts as spec work?

16:37

nope, it is not equivalent; however, the topic is on my mind, due to the fact that financial pressure has increased.

16:37

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adlai has been looking for work for... long enough to be ignored by friends.

16:38

"we only hire people with degrees", etc

16:38

"... maybe we have a beer, talk about life!"

16:39

now obviously, sidewalks do not clean themselves, and there are always police dispatch radios looking for a babysitter.

16:40

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adlai is giving the hi-tech industry a chance, due to being blinded by hi-salaries, probably.

16:40

so far, I appear to be blacklisted by the Human Resources braincancer, yet... maybe not, maybe I only have an extremely unimpressive resume.

16:41

(why do I call it braincancer? because they can do background checks by marinating their cranium in electromagnetism)

16:41

mind you, the brain cancer is not using cellular radios... the brain cancer is thinking that you can get an opinion about a human being, by making a phone call.

16:42

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adlai is not an "easy person", so it goes.

16:44

if e.g. PeterL wanted a pure CL reimplementation of 'quantum-espresso', then maybe things are interesting.

16:45

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adlai literally kicks himself for never drawing a salary as code monkey from any team at the university... left chemistry school before delivering the one project he did begin.

16:46

and declined work on a different one, because some cryptocurrency startuptard cold-caller dangled employment in front of my eyes, and the university only pays minimum wage.

16:46

naturally, the negotiation died like a baby.

16:56

fwiw, my "write lisp for your soul" drive is leaning more strongly towards "write pure CL functions for computing ideal guitar tuning, given chord progressions of setlist", than "implement the pest spec, then crawl towards roach-for-roach compatibility with roacha"

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16:56