#asciilifeform | 2022-07-03

It's a tad surprising to me that the issue is with me, and not some of the others here; I don't spout nonsense as at least one other here does. Do I simply pass the barrier from obvious nonsense at a glance is all?

00:07

By all means, ignore me, but no one else seems to have such an issue with my behaviour.

00:09

Now, asciilifeform has compared me to Terry Davis, but I prefer to think of myself as more coherent, most of the time.

00:10

I'm outside of the range of normal human behaviour, to an extent not one of you is truly aware, and this makes me deranged. I'm not sorry.

00:16

blah blah blah

00:17

It wouldn't've been kind had I responded so in turn.

00:18

It's okay to dislike me, phf, but it's childish to try to ascribe higher meaning to it.

00:20

why would that be _childish_? why are you so shit with your communication style despite claimed precision. it would be for example petty, but what would make it _childish_ exactly? ffs, can you at least try

00:21

Childish : silly and immature

00:21

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110340 << _that's how you responded_ rephrased, yeah? i mean you put a hedge upon a hedge upon a hedge "can't be me, because i also think it's a problem, besides i'm surpised this can eve napply to me, because others are as bad, BESIDES nobody else called me out on it" ffs man

00:21

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:14:53 verisimilitude: It wouldn't've been kind had I responded so in turn.

00:22

Should we continue wasting key strokes on this topic?

00:22

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110346 << why the fuck not, you faggot

00:22

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:20:01 verisimilitude: Should we continue wasting key strokes on this topic?

00:23

Who's behaving like the imageboard user now?

00:24

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110337 << you're no terry davis, man made his own os, started a social following, was significantly nerfed by his genuine medical condition, still thrived.

00:24

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:06:30 verisimilitude: Now, asciilifeform has compared me to Terry Davis, but I prefer to think of myself as more coherent, most of the time.

00:24

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110338 << i'm dark and mysterious, you don't even know!!!1

00:24

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:08:05 verisimilitude: I'm outside of the range of normal human behaviour, to an extent not one of you is truly aware, and this makes me deranged. I'm not sorry.

00:24

We agree. He's currently my better.

00:25

I exude verisimilitude.

00:27

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110335 << "at least one other", name names or gtfo. why _you_ specifically? because _you_ butt into my conversations with _other_ people with innane and idiotic, reddit tier comments, so i'm therefore i'm talking to you.

00:27

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:03:54 verisimilitude: It's a tad surprising to me that the issue is with me, and not some of the others here; I don't spout nonsense as at least one other here does. Do I simply pass the barrier from obvious nonsense at a glance is all?

00:28

This isn't a medium for one-to-one conversation so much as for group conversation.

00:29

I tried to offer advice, drawing from my previous works, to get this in return.

00:29

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110359 << your advice is shit and you're shit. please don't offer any more of it. thank you.

00:29

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:26:44 verisimilitude: I tried to offer advice, drawing from my previous works, to get this in return.

00:30

I don't think I'll offer any advice to thee from now on, no.

00:31

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110362 << well on account of you being autistic and MAYBE SOME OTHER MYSTERIOUS AND BROODING CONDITION, i figured you might've not gotten the hint the last few times i've communicated this point. so i'm making this absolutely fucking clear. don't fucking talk to me.

00:31

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:27:59 verisimilitude: I don't think I'll offer any advice to thee from now on, no.

00:32

Maybe we'll get lucky and my heart will explode soon.

00:32

Don't count on it, though.

00:32

Yes, I can't misunderstand this.

00:33

Just /ignore me already.

00:33

i already did, but asciilifeform's log doesn't have ignore, so i still get exposed to your drivel

00:33

Oh, that's too bad.

00:42

and ftr, for the log readers, this is the advice in question, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-02#1110269 what. a fucking. wanker.

00:42

Logged on 2022-07-02 21:57:24 verisimilitude: Anyway, if this is just fiddling in the REPL and not something for release, just read in lines normally and mind the ending carriage return.

00:45

I later suggested to use octets.

00:46

Had it been written that way, it would've worked in SBCL.

00:47

oh appealing to authority are we, i thought only verisimilitude solutions are proper solutions and everything else is junk

00:47

yes, i'm talking with an autist. he later also suggested using octets. let the record stand.

00:48

If only it were so simple, but I'm not that megalomaniacal.

00:48

Well, have fun with the parser, phf.

00:51

verisimilitude: you can go fuck yourself whenever you feel like it, i mean i'm not keeping you. i'm just fucking still mad at how fucking idiotic your advice is, and your general reddit tier contribution. to conversation, or to life.

00:53

If I truly be so bad, why get so angry at someone ostensibly not worth it?

00:58

verisimilitude: nice use of "ostensibly". i am for the record not letting it stand. you're not _so bad_ you're just utterly _meh_, but the reason i'm angry is because i'm exposed to you, or for that matter to your ilk. the bulk of what one is exposed to is some form of verisimilitude, so you're a kind of stand it for a general deformity, in this case, rather than a specific individual.

01:04

No, I disagree; I'm not similar to them.

01:06

I don't have an account with some social media nonsense, I don't obsess over nonsense either, and I'm generally a different manner of person than the human-shaped animals walking about the world.

01:07

Of course, I don't particularly care about how others view me, so continue to think that way, phf.

01:17

nooo, i disagreeeeeee

01:26

i'm just going to let that quote http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110383 stand on its own, the ur-definition of a 21st century schizoid man

01:26

Logged on 2022-07-03 01:03:58 verisimilitude: I don't have an account with some social media nonsense, I don't obsess over nonsense either, and I'm generally a different manner of person than the human-shaped animals walking about the world.

01:32

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asciilifeform still wonders whether verisimilitude's trolol was a master stroke of demented genius, rather than mere fermentation product. simply seems too perfect of a trololol

01:32

Logged on 2022-07-02 21:36:55 verisimilitude: The portable method is to avoid these line functions and use character functions or, likely, work solely with octets.

01:33

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asciilifeform almost bit

01:36

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110369 << 'gag' tailor-made for this kinda thing. ( assuming anyone will even peer the d00d, lol )

01:36

Logged on 2022-07-03 00:30:52 phf: i already did, but asciilifeform's log doesn't have ignore, so i still get exposed to your drivel

01:38

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110388 << at this point and until i'm personally a witness or invited to the lizard meeting i no longer believe in a superior intelligence playing me as a toy. i just assume that everyone is exactly what they appear to be, until maybe i glimpse more

01:38

Logged on 2022-07-03 01:29:47 asciilifeform: still wonders whether verisimilitude's trolol was a master stroke of demented genius, rather than mere fermentation product. simply seems too perfect of a trololol

01:38

phf: fair'nuff. just seemed too perfect of a kerosene imho

01:39

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asciilifeform to meat, bbl

01:42

but then that's also a long troll, because pretty consistent with his other behavior, essentially a capper. what, months and months of mediocrity to occasionally bait people into rage?

01:47

and this analysis of yours also encourages further idiocy, "actually not just a mediocre redditor with delusions of grandeur doing his usual thing, a genius mastermind trolling!!1"

01:59

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110395 << man, fuck this shit, _you've_ encouraged his idiocy, apart from an occasional underhanded comment nobody calls him out. what you're saying is "this comment was so utterly idiotic he must be a dark trolling genuis", but what if _and much more likely_ he's not?

01:59

Logged on 2022-07-03 01:36:14 asciilifeform: phf: fair'nuff. just seemed too perfect of a kerosene imho

02:03

phf: do you have greasemonkey or uMatrix on your browser?

02:07

crtdaydreams: no, i filter with dnsmasq on the router. i don't mind ads, i just treat them as a signal for "bad neighborhood"

02:08

phf: not the point, was going to write a quick script to block all class="logline verisimilitude" and be done with it

02:10

crtdaydreams: aah, well, in reality the experience mostly highlighted that killfiles don't work. what do you do about conversation threads?

02:12

most of the time can just filter it out "oh, asciilifeform is talking to verisimilitude", but that still brings the person back in awareness

02:12

and here's another thing: can see exactly the kind of inane shit the person is saying by the response people is giving him

02:13

we're still a few generations of logotron off contextual search (and destroy)

02:13

and ocassionally will get consistent threads with missing counterparty, in fact i had this experience a day or two ago

02:14

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-30#1109851 which in my irc client was followed immediately by http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-30#1109854

02:14

Logged on 2022-06-30 15:06:16 signpost: phf: even this, the religious impulse, man!

02:14

Logged on 2022-06-30 15:07:27 signpost: hobbled as you are, can't even construct an amusing caricature of me.

02:14

well it's arguable, are any of the threads with said counterparty going to be of any worth?

02:14

no! :D

02:15

so it's not a problem them :D

02:15

well, but how i do i filter out these threads?

02:15

*then

02:15

needs some approximation of hard ai

02:16

you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution

02:19

because the trickiest use case is the part where verisimilitude is particularly annoying: you're having a conversation with somebody interesting, and then verisimilitude pipes in with "i have a latin dictionary and CANIS means dog", so your counterparty decides to engage that point, and suddenly you have this complicated merge, where a single response semantically belongs to both ignored and not ignored categories

02:19

some technologies that involve a sprinkle of physics and a dash of chemistry in order to maximize the velocity of a projectile have shown use in prior civilizations for such social conundrums

02:23

arguably manners emerged from the fact that armed men used to have a need for conversation within closed proximity of each other. i was reading this book on the history of sepuku which highlighted this point, e.g. a noble at a table got offended at something or rather, threw a sword at his counterparty, missed and hit emperors ornate divider, had to comit sepuku

02:26

or the 19th c duelist culture "i have reason to believe you might have implied that i might have behaved less than honorably this one time, i demand satisfaction at your earliest convenience with the weapons of your choice"

02:26

unfortunately can't do this over internet :>

02:26

now we have the luxury of both being offended and offending

02:26

without a face-to-face contact

02:26

and it's fucking gay :)

02:30

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110421 So, when I point out something about Latin, that's trivial and senseless, but when phf makes this obvious point, it's just fine and dandy. I've made these same points several times, phf, it's naught special.

02:30

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:21:16 phf: arguably manners emerged from the fact that armed men used to have a need for conversation within closed proximity of each other. i was reading this book on the history of sepuku which highlighted this point, e.g. a noble at a table got offended at something or rather, threw a sword at his counterparty, missed and hit emperors ornate divider, had to comit sepuku

02:31

verisimilitude: go fuck yourself

02:31

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110420 Grow a spine and take some initiative, crtdaydreams. Stop doing something only after someone else makes it seem safe to do so.

02:31

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:17:03 crtdaydreams: some technologies that involve a sprinkle of physics and a dash of chemistry in order to maximize the velocity of a projectile have shown use in prior civilizations for such social conundrums

02:32

versimilitude, I'd rather think carefully about what I say before making some blatant and benign interjection in the heat of the moment.

02:33

This is no different than giving me the negative rating only after shinohai did, because he made it safe to do, right?

02:34

Is it inappropriate to make a rating as I see fit?

02:34

Of course not, but be brave enough to be the first to do it, next time.

02:34

I thought it would be relevant to append some added information for the next reader, it's quite descriptive, really. Should be right up your alley.

02:41

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110427 << see this is called conversation, which is what i was having with crtdaydreams, of which _by default_ you're not part of. i know that on reddit anyone can say anything at any moment within any context or thread and the one with most upvotes wins!111 but when men talk nobody fucking cares what some random fuck has to say.

02:41

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:28:08 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110421 So, when I point out something about Latin, that's trivial and senseless, but when phf makes this obvious point, it's just fine and dandy. I've made these same points several times, phf, it's naught special.

02:42

I don't use Reddit.

02:42

verisimilitude: i don't give a fuck, you're still a redditor

02:42

Secondly, that's clearly not true. Everyone here is a part of the conversation, by default.

02:43

I can't inject myself into a PM, can I, phf?

02:43

verisimilitude: A conversation implies a dialogue. Not a monologue.

02:43

So, phf accuses me of not understanding how this works, whereas I accuse him of the same.

02:44

verisimilitude: you can inject yourself wherever you fucking want to _by the mechanism of the medium_, but that doesn't make you part of it

02:44

I disagreeeeeee.

02:45

verisimilitude: that's fine, but you know, there's no other resolution to this other then us not talking to each other

02:45

That's fine by me.

02:45

</flame>

02:45

Now that's settled.

02:46

well, i don't think the man can stick by the rules, he butted into my conversation again

02:46

I'm not touching you.

02:47

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110427

02:47

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:28:08 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110421 So, when I point out something about Latin, that's trivial and senseless, but when phf makes this obvious point, it's just fine and dandy. I've made these same points several times, phf, it's naught special.

02:47

I get the feeling, crtdaydreams, that no one cares to discuss Latin tonight.

02:48

It's a shame, since the language is so interesting; I recently learned about the supine of a verb.

02:48

verisimilitude: this is the point where you don't vocalize it in chat and you drop it for another day

02:49

when perhaps some latin trivia would be resounding, it's about reading the room and reacting appropriately

02:49

I don't quite understand the supine, yet.

02:49

Yes, I agree.

02:50

Well, what should we discuss, then?

02:50

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crtdaydreams would be keen to discuss w/ any willing participants synchronicity

02:51

Alright; start.

02:51

It's known that dynamical systems that oscillate, e.g. a pendulum will incrementally transfer energy until a certain point where spontaneous synchronicity will occur

02:52

It's rather a curiosity how the same effect can be had for say car indicators.

02:53

Specifically LED flash cams (or flasher if you like)

02:55

Because being a digital flasher without a moving part (the solenoid in relays), it cannot transfer kinetic energy towards an equilibrium.

02:55

I'm ignorant of this topic, so I can't contribute.

02:56

I'm tempted to go out and buy a couple LED flash cams and see if they will still spontaneously synchronize.

02:56

Write an article about it; I'd read it.

02:58

I may do so, I still have a few other things in the works though. Just a curiosity. If anyone knows anything more about the subj. would like to hear about it.

03:00

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crtdaydreams bbl

~ 2 hours 33 minutes ~

05:33

/quit

~ 2 hours 16 minutes ~

07:50

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110433 << "tu quoque crtdaydreams?"

↖ ↖ ↖

07:50

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:30:52 verisimilitude: This is no different than giving me the negative rating only after shinohai did, because he made it safe to do, right?

07:53

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shinohai thinks had nothing to do with "safety" but rather verisimilitude's tired alliterations that went on for hours and into the next day.

~ 3 hours 7 minutes ~

11:00

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110469 << they might if you sit'em so they nearfield

11:00

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:53:25 crtdaydreams: I'm tempted to go out and buy a couple LED flash cams and see if they will still spontaneously synchronize.

11:01

in fact large % of asciilifeform's design work on fg consisted of preventing this.

11:02

( and in fact of preventing oscillatory behaviour in general )

11:03

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110456 << realize that if asciilifeform posted ~his~ exhaust gas in realtime, #a would be 100% fucking unreadable 24/7 -- 'hey, didja know about the dual form in slovenian!!!'

11:03

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:45:49 verisimilitude: It's a shame, since the language is so interesting; I recently learned about the supine of a verb.

11:04

but aint aboutta, lol

11:04

Logged on 2021-10-29 11:44:58 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-28#1062218 << asciilifeform aint a subscriber to the mp school of blogging, y'know the one where you post photo of erry meal you eat and the shit you took

11:05

you can have an edible phreeforall forum if folx have ~some~ fucking concept of snr, not otherwise

11:07

oh hai asciilifeform o/

11:07

wb shinohai

11:07

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110418 << asciilifeform fwiw does look fwd to witnessing pestronic snr hygiene. even if the instruments relatively blunt.

11:07

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:14:13 phf: you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution

11:08

Quite the popcorn-drama log, didn't arrive back home until late last nite and having them read to me betwixt giggles was interesting.

11:09

i.e. suspect that folx will 'shape up' if faced with unplugging. (or not, and then unplug, just as well)

11:13

phf truly has the best solution here because feeding narcissist simply makes 'em worse. So yeah, unplug 'em and let 'em go back to conversing with reflection in the pool.

11:13

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:42:24 phf: verisimilitude: that's fine, but you know, there's no other resolution to this other then us not talking to each other

11:13

Anywho, got pest station back online apparently there was pipe outage while I was away.

~ 3 hours 28 minutes ~

14:41

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110474 ID NON CREDE SHINOHAI

14:41

Logged on 2022-07-03 07:47:27 shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110433 << "tu quoque crtdaydreams?"

14:44

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110481 I didn't know.

14:44

Logged on 2022-07-03 11:01:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110456 << realize that if asciilifeform posted ~his~ exhaust gas in realtime, #a would be 100% fucking unreadable 24/7 -- 'hey, didja know about the dual form in slovenian!!!'

14:48

Oh it's just a verisimilitude ping, no need to stop the Sunday afternoon orgy ....

~ 29 minutes ~

15:17

punkman

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110418 << well-known for anyone that has used irc for a while

15:17

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:14:13 phf: you can't solve social with technological, and the experience of trying to ignore verisimilitude basically demonstrated for me that you can't have naive ignore in a chat as a solution

15:19

punkman

mp had same problem with nubbins just before #t schism, with the added problem that wot-rating-to-have-voice also failed him

15:26

punkman

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110488 << I don't think pest unplugging/gagging is materially different to irc's ignore/ban

15:26

Logged on 2022-07-03 11:05:15 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110418 << asciilifeform fwiw does look fwd to witnessing pestronic snr hygiene. even if the instruments relatively blunt.

15:28

so then let's say this is the forum, and not the class of tmsr reunion, and throw the idiot out.

15:29

ET TV SIGNPOST

15:30

it's enough; phf far exceeds you in the eyes of anyone here, as if it needs to be said.

15:30

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signpost hasn't further to say on it.

15:38

Well, I was disconnecting for a few hours today, anyway, and that's plenty of time for you to discuss it amongst yourselves.

15:47

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shinohai tips hat to signpost ....

15:47

Any new items on pentacle of late?

~ 20 minutes ~

16:07

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110474 << If he was a troll he

16:07

Logged on 2022-07-03 07:47:27 shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110433 << "tu quoque crtdaydreams?"

16:08

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110474 << If he was a troll he'd be happy with getting a reaction at all.

16:08

Logged on 2022-07-03 07:47:27 shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110433 << "tu quoque crtdaydreams?"

16:14

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110509 << This right here, is __exactly__ what's objectionable. ``I was going anyways...'' the exact comment needed here was *nothing*. Nothing at all. How you can't understand even after I just highlighted it, is quite frankly beyond me.

16:14

Logged on 2022-07-03 15:35:22 verisimilitude: Well, I was disconnecting for a few hours today, anyway, and that's plenty of time for you to discuss it amongst yourselves.

16:14

Logged on 2022-07-03 02:46:15 crtdaydreams: verisimilitude: this is the point where you don't vocalize it in chat and you drop it for another day

16:15

crtdaydreams: http://btc.info.gf/uploads/verisimilitude1.png

16:17

shinohai: lol, stellar meme.

16:19

^___^

16:21

(Also I see what you did there!)

16:21

:P

16:27

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110481 << fwiw came to same conclusion ~2 months ago, an observant reader might take note early cdd logs exhibited a not too dissimilar redditism flavour, alleviated substantially since

16:27

Logged on 2022-07-03 11:01:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110456 << realize that if asciilifeform posted ~his~ exhaust gas in realtime, #a would be 100% fucking unreadable 24/7 -- 'hey, didja know about the dual form in slovenian!!!'

~ 29 minutes ~

16:57

shinohai: haven't added anything lately, been attending to a few other projects. but I'll pick it back up sometime soonish.

16:57

next thing needed is a rewrite of my old OS series which incorporates pentacle, and explains what's left to be done.

~ 31 minutes ~

17:28

Neato! I have a py2.7 pbuild imma publish (for use with blatta) but gonna hold off a bit until fleshed out some more and you publish your OS series introducing it.

17:37

And in South-of-the-border rekt news: https://archive.ph/FeJW7

~ 3 hours 38 minutes ~

21:16

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-07-03#1008365 There's no contest. Saul is better

21:16

(pest) 2022-07-03 shinohai[asciilifeform]: It's hard for me to decide just yet. I'll prolly binge watch the entire series over a weekend when it's done and I'm feeling particularly lazy before I make final call.

21:24

also, if you can find fingerlimes, bust one of those badboys on your pickled fish. get it right

21:24

Hello vex.

21:25

AK verisimilitude

21:26

What's ``AK''?

21:26

Is it ``acknowledge''?

21:26

yes

21:26

Alright.

21:26

I've never watched the show, but probably should at one point; is it necessary to watch the ``Breaking Bad'' show beforehand?

21:28

Probably not, although, 'm not sure if it'd be "your cup of tea".

21:29

I can enjoy violence.

21:30

Hast thou ever before watched ``American Psycho'', vex? I did not too long back, and suppose the monologues were the best part, although the violence was entertaining in the beginning.

21:31

I watched it recently

21:31

I don't think I really understood it

21:31

Well, I interpreted the ending as revealing he was delusional the entire time.

21:32

yeah, maybe it was just about cocaine

21:33

I think he was taking more than just cocaine.

21:34

but perhaps an allegory

21:35

To what would it be an allegory?

21:35

like cocaine bizness men in the 80s or whatever

21:35

Oh, perhaps.

21:36

It shows what money and sinecure can do to a man, certainly.

21:48

to be honest, I'm not sure if that's a backhanded swipe at me

21:50

which makes it hard to respond; I don't wanna catch the manopause

21:59

comparing saul to psycho is fraught with emotional danger

22:00

both works make use of emotional negative space

22:04

the viewer is invited to fill in the blanks

22:05

I'm swiping at no one.

22:05

I know verisimilitude

22:06

Alright.

22:06

I just smoked a joint, that's all

22:08

We're both doing drugs; I'm drinking coffee right now.

22:10

how does verisimilitude take is coffee, are you acreful with the grind and all that?

22:10

*his

22:13

I've always thought being a coffe afficianado was a great hobby, but I like it when other people get excited about it, and I just drink

22:14

tmi to share?

22:15

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110561 << Do the raccoons work for the CIA yet?

22:15

Logged on 2022-07-03 22:06:32 vex: I just smoked a joint, that's all

22:16

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110530 << Might wind up like the girls, couldn't choose *just one*.

22:16

Logged on 2022-07-03 21:16:26 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-07-03#1008365 There's no contest. Saul is better

22:16

nah, I wouldn't mind a ristretto, but vibez ist gut

22:17

can't have one without the other

22:18

I drink it without additives.

22:18

I always go to read rollingstone or one of the other publications after an episode

22:18

just. coffee.

22:19

Yes.

22:19

one of those american diner stytle pots

22:19

I use a French press, and less frequently a Moka pot.

22:20

got favourite beans?

22:20

No.

22:20

moka pot, is that there you add chocolate?

22:20

I prefer for them to be roasted without additives, such as chocolate.

22:22

you roast your own?

22:24

I don't yet, no.

22:27

I've met a few people who are into coffee, I love spending an hour in the kitchen listening and smelling

22:28

I guess the middle east is state of the art?

22:29

Everyone has their own way to do it

22:29

I'd figure, as with many things, Europe is the state of the art.

22:30

shonhai, how was coffee used before europe?

22:30

That's another thing on the .jp list: tea ceremony

22:33

surely coffee is from south america, but i'm only guessing

22:36

I love .vn style verisimilitude.

22:38

in the hot & humid french colony, a cafe visit is expected to last hours. often in the evening

22:40

only coffee, ice and condensed milk

22:42

girl will keep coming to top up the ice

22:43

very sweet indeed

22:43

I dislike sweet things, generally.

22:44

eh, when in rome

22:44

it's a nice vibe

22:44

When in Rome, do as the Romans, unless a barbarian.

22:50

do you feel the need to explain what a barbarian is?

22:50

Let me think about it.

22:51

No.

22:52

I'd actually like to know, particularly with the knowledge that your new hobby is listening to the world around you

22:53

ever tried ham radio?

22:53

My Latin book tells me BARBARVS is an adjective meaning one who's neither Roman nor Greek.

22:54

No, I've not.

22:54

those boys will check you right quick

22:56

where do you supose most of these barbarians come from then?

22:58

In Roman times, from Germany.

23:00

See, I thought I was just stoned, but you need to consider your inputs friend

23:02

Why say "my latin book"?

23:03

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110535 << avtomak kalashnikova, lolwat possibly else

23:03

Logged on 2022-07-03 21:26:11 verisimilitude: What's ``AK''?

23:03

*avtomat

23:04

could also be, suppose, pl, armia krajowa

23:07

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110502 << atm nuffin is 'failing', #a worx precisely as advertised -- anyone can log in ( and thank odin it aint yet spammed to death entirely )

23:07

Logged on 2022-07-03 15:16:42 punkman: mp had same problem with nubbins just before #t schism, with the added problem that wot-rating-to-have-voice also failed him

23:07

I'm learning from this book, vex: https://lingualatina.dk/wp/

23:08

I refer to this when I write ``my Latin book''.

23:08

nifty cover pic

23:08

^

23:08

but wrong side of doggy

23:08

Yes, ``beware the dog''.

23:08

if it's meant to allude to 'non penis canina'

23:12

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110617 I'm considering taking a break from #asciilifeform and not returning until I finish my Pest implementation. I do spend a lot of time here I could use for working, and there'd be no one to complain at me then.

23:12

Logged on 2022-07-03 23:07:01 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110502 << atm nuffin is 'failing', #a worx precisely as advertised -- anyone can log in ( and thank odin it aint yet spammed to death entirely )

23:12

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-03#1110597 << good for health. may need to take up smoking or motorcycling, lol

23:12

Logged on 2022-07-03 22:43:53 verisimilitude: I dislike sweet things, generally.

23:12

(trilema) 2014-10-24 asciilifeform: when read about this for the first time, wondered if some 'lifer' inmate will file a 'cruel and unusual punishment' claim against the u.s. department of prisons for potentially extending his lifespan and thus adding years to his sentence without a judge's say-so

23:12

verisimilitude: no one ever said 'i wish i had spent moar time in #a and less working'

23:13

Few people say ``I wish i had spent more time working'' also.

23:14

The only reason I'm drawn to motorcycles is their inspectable nature, but they could easily get me killed, yes.

23:15