00:08 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: mine finally crashed ftr. |
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01:30 |
signpost |
!!help |
01:30 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
01:33 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: not surprised. Threadless version still going. |
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~ 10 hours 11 minutes ~ |
11:44 |
jonsykkel |
could send ignore packets to random ipv4 addrs. if pestron from another net happens to receive correctly sized martian packet, it will store addr in fake wot and start "communicating" at regular intervals. if have enough of these fake peers would be difficult for snoop to even tell who actual peers are |
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~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~ |
12:53 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062250 << just saw this too, $2k for the 1u chassis, it's got 11 slots, and $50-$100 per rockchip board |
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12:54 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-10-29 12:08:30 BingoBoingo: Meanwhile looking at a Rockchip board laying around lead to seeing http://en.t-firefly.com/news/info/index/id/522.html |
12:55 |
punkman |
they have various single-slot motherboards too |
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~ 2 hours 18 minutes ~ |
15:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068624 << you gotta be joking ( store arbitrary liquishit? cuz disk and cpu time are infinite? or wat ) |
15:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-03 06:37:20 jonsykkel: could send ignore packets to random ipv4 addrs. if pestron from another net happens to receive correctly sized martian packet, it will store addr in fake wot and start "communicating" at regular intervals. if have enough of these fake peers would be difficult for snoop to even tell who actual peers are |
15:14 |
jonsykkel |
u store ip addresses, nothing else |
15:14 |
jonsykkel |
and ports |
15:14 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: you could do this, but imho doesn't belong in the spec |
15:15 |
jonsykkel |
sure, agree |
15:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068625 << potentially interesting, but not clear from the vendor page whether actually includes the cpus, or whether they share memory (i.e. what's the cost of filling up the thing? and do you get a shared-memory comp or a $2k equivalent of my iron rails holding same # of rk's ? ) |
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15:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-03 07:46:35 punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062250 << just saw this too, $2k for the 1u chassis, it's got 11 slots, and $50-$100 per rockchip board |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
hmm bot awol ? |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
15:17 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
15:17 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:17 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:17 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406 (Operator: whaack) |
15:17 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.277s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.245s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.262s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.326s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711976 |
15:17 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.652s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712406 |
15:18 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:18 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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15:48 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
15:48 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $56210.92 |
15:48 |
asciilifeform |
ty shinohai |
15:48 |
shinohai |
I dunno why but bot parts chan occasionally, it's still connected but not in here. |
15:49 |
shinohai |
$uptime |
15:49 |
busybot |
The bot has been up for: 6 minutes and 59 seconds |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
15:53 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 170d 11h 43m |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
^ then again it lives on same box, so 'cheats' |
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~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~ |
16:58 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068634 << some docs here https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/Cluster-Server-R1/Firefly_Cluster_server_product_documentation.html |
16:58 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-03 10:09:05 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068625 << potentially interesting, but not clear from the vendor page whether actually includes the cpus, or whether they share memory (i.e. what's the cost of filling up the thing? and do you get a shared-memory comp or a $2k equivalent of my iron rails holding same # of rk's ? ) |
16:58 |
punkman |
they don't share memory. I think you just get gigabit network interconnect |
16:58 |
asciilifeform |
lol!!! 2k$ just for iron rails and a gb switch ?!! |
16:59 |
punkman |
https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/Cluster-Server-R1/_images/R1_netword_topology_diagram.jpg |
17:00 |
punkman |
"The motherboard runs Ubuntu 18.04 system and interacts with other core boards (hereinafter referred to as daughter boards) in the cluster server through network and USB interfaces to monitor and manage each core board of the cluster server." |
17:01 |
punkman |
seems like you also get some kind of USB interface |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
still outragous lulzprice imho |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
*outrageous |
17:03 |
asciilifeform |
that rack alone costs like ~50 standard rk. |
17:03 |
punkman |
it would be harder to fit 11 separate SBC + PSU + usb/ethernet switch in 1U chassis |
17:04 |
punkman |
the R2 versions fits 72 daughter boards and it's at $15,800 |
17:04 |
punkman |
(no daughter boards included in either as I understand it, perhaps I could be wrong) |
17:04 |
asciilifeform |
lol!! |
17:06 |
asciilifeform |
that'd buy half a rack of 'dulap'. |
17:06 |
asciilifeform |
golden toilet. (or rather, ordinary toilet, priced like golden..) |
17:10 |
punkman |
https://en.t-firefly.com/product/embed/ecr3566pc this one says "supports all-data-link ECC", I wonder wtf that means |
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18:22 |
jonsykkel |
goted this thimbronion http://zzz.st/up/6B1WALdh/ and irc connection dropped |
18:28 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: i got same thing yest. |
18:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-02 19:01:17 asciilifeform: thimbronion: mine finally crashed ftr. |
18:28 |
thimbronion |
jonsykkel: fixed this in my local version by going single-threaded. Testing an additional change that prevents the server from listening for additional irc client connections when there is already a client connected - was causing all sorts of weird when random tcp connections hit the port. |
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18:37 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-03#1068683 << probably best to not expose irc hole to world |
18:38 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-03 13:20:52 thimbronion: jonsykkel: fixed this in my local version by going single-threaded. Testing an additional change that prevents the server from listening for additional irc client connections when there is already a client connected - was causing all sorts of weird when random tcp connections hit the port. |
18:44 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: see also |
18:47 |
cgra |
thimbronion: handle_udp_data()'s debug print threw error if message text contained non-ascii char (bonus: tab indent at end of Server.start(), uneven indent at end of Client.__command_handler()) |
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~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~ |
19:56 |
thimbronion |
ty cgra, noted |
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20:58 |
adlai |
asciilifeform: have patience for another long metaphor about living systems in the context of trb? |
21:03 |
adlai |
the oneline summary, in the ACHTUNG GEDENKNER sign, is that the static components of a living system can have a well-defined space of liquishit which they do tolerate; and ... |
21:05 |
adlai |
... the minimal "do not confuse this map for the metaphor's actual territory", is a tandem setup with a cloud of pseudonodes that do almost no verification beyond essentials of parsing protocol frames, orbiting around the trb endothelium |
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21:08 |
* |
adlai chose 'endothelium' instead of 'endoskeleton', to express the fact that the critical part of the thing in question is not only the extruded blockchain, but also the glands that shape and process it -- trb, wallet programs, possibly even explorers |
21:10 |
adlai |
meanwhile, my linux quest has reasonably congealed; I have a bootable system, and even learned a bit about the various storage buzzwords (lvm, raid, tradeoffs of SSD instead of HDD) |