#asciilifeform | 2021-10-30

I'm still going to recommend purchasing it, however, because it's not as if more money would buy me a decent system.

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wb verisimilitude

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verisimilitude: any idea whether iron or the incl. shitlinux was at fault?

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The hardware seems fine; I'd be willing to wager a pinky toe the incompetent software idiots are to blame.

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asciilifeform couldn't even bring himself to use the latter, his 'pinebook' gathers dust for the lack of a civilized xorg for the thing that could sit on civilized linux

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My mistake was beginning to use it for real work, to this result.

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I can't tell how to have it boot with a fsck, and of course I can't fsck a mounted filesystem. I need to park the car before its engine be inspected, naturally; I just need to ignore the systems that defied nature by not having this constraint.

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could debate whether 100% 'decent' system can be bought, but data loss is mostly avoidable, asciilifeform not experienced since '10 or so after installing raid5 and doubleconverting ups etc

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Anything I give a damn about is backed up several times.

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verisimilitude: i was gonna ask 'what didja boot to install with' then remembered that verisimilitude used the included thing

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Stupid pictures from the Internet don't count.

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I've been too lazy to replace it, because I don't want to do the work.

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asciilifeform didn't replace on account of not having with what

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Yes.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062332 << increasingly loox like clients will have to be at least lightly patched to work w/ pest.

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Logged on 2021-10-29 19:19:47 thimbronion: grr. KEY conflicts with some shitty weechat command.

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asciilifeform was hoping this were avoidable, but not if this degree of braindamage

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Just ditch IRC, instead. Make it a telnet interface or something.

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verisimilitude: asciilifeform for instance likes his irc client and doesn't care to part with it.

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if someone implements a telnetistic thing that actually does colourization, tab-completion, etc. then maybe.

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(not to mention edit-before-send)

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I've also solved this to my satisfaction; the cleanest solution is a secondary log containing the information; I see no other good solution yet.

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Logged on 2021-10-04 17:45:02 verisimilitude: I want to design a Pest implementation which stores all messages in a log; how am I to store the hearsay information; it seems this information is only revealed in the hypothetical IRC gateway; there shouldn't be information generated which can't later be regenerated.

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imho smart solution is a log that keeps 100% of what you want, + a means of parsing it to show desired subsets

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I'll just have to have a variable-length structure log, containing message hashes and the fixed-length usernames associated thereto.

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Of course.

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verisimilitude: yer keeping msg hashes anyway, for deduping (and getdata)

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so keep as many as you have disk to spare for.

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Well, the purpose of it in the secondary log was in case of corruption; the alternation is association by position.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-29#1062343 << not that one oughn't to back up (incl. the 'ultimate backup' -- giving to other folx to mirror) but backups have the problem that they are ~always~ stale.

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Logged on 2021-10-29 20:17:55 verisimilitude: Anything I give a damn about is backed up several times.

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(not to mention that all known os are quite unfriendly to being backed up wholesale while 'hot')

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Logged on 2021-10-29 20:16:55 verisimilitude: I can't tell how to have it boot with a fsck, and of course I can't fsck a mounted filesystem. I need to park the car before its engine be inspected, naturally; I just need to ignore the systems that defied nature by not having this constraint.

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I keep thinking about the examples I've given. These jackasses wouldn't like their water systems behaving like software.

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``Oh, you got cholera? An advanced user knows how to avoid that.''

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I've been glancing at the forum, and it may actually have been a hardware issue; apparently, the NVMe drive can get insufficient power sometimes.

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verisimilitude: water supply in parts of usa is actually like that.

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verisimilitude: link?

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I don't have a good link, but the forum is here: https://forum.pine64.org

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Also, I don't recall if I actually be using the NVMe or not.

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verisimilitude: pretty sure you have to buy it separately (and the adapter board, i bought, is in the box w/ the machine)

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verisimilitude: so if you hadn't, then it is using the onboard flash

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It's probably software fuckery anyway.

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The software doesn't deserve the doubt.

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mine came with an abominable systemd-infested shitlinux ('manjaro' or what was it)

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the kind where you hit key and then maybe 2-3s later see char in terminal etc

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(and that's under ~no cpu load to speak of)

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Yes. I'm invited to ``Enjoy the simplicity''.

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asciilifeform hasn't much used lappies in rather long time, so doesn't suffer much from the unavailability of usable one

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Perhaps I should just build a desktop, or use the defunct one underneath my desk.

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i've a x60 for going to the dc etc with, and it suffices

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(running dulap-gentoo)

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verisimilitude: atm my desk has 4 desktops bolted to it (segregated by what lives there, and piped to kvm)

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Even then, hardware failure is no excuse.

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``One common problem with Unix is perfection: while offering none of its own, the operating system demands perfection from the hardware upon which it runs.''

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when the irons fail, i pull spare off the shelf and keep going

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If I were ignorant, I'd truly welcome the megacorp-style managed solutions that spare me this shit.

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if there were any that actually did, lol

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If I were ignorant.

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I occasionally dream, asciilifeform, of running of to a magical world, and never seeing a keyboard or computer ever again.

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