| 05:08 |
punkman |
so you mention raytheon IP, and within 30 min, guy comes in to tell you "it's not what you think" |
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| 06:08 |
mats |
isnt centralization what martin luther was going on about? |
| 06:10 |
mats |
gets even more watered down after protestant reformation since the last hundred years, unitarians and whatever |
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| 08:03 |
gregory5 |
Luther defined the church as merely an assembly of people who believe the same thing, as opposed to a mystical organism. |
| 08:11 |
gregory5 |
in practice the Lutheran church was still hierarchical, but now it was run more like a company, |
| 08:12 |
gregory5 |
with the Bible and the confessional documents (later assembled into the Book of Concord) serving as its constitution and bylaws. |
| 08:14 |
gregory5 |
it should be mentioned, most of American Protestantism has very little connection with Luther. |
| 08:15 |
gregory5 |
American Protestantism mainly comes from the Radical Reformation, and from John Calvin, and John Knox. |
| 08:25 |
gregory5 |
dpb: was your church split off from another, or was it based on an ab-initio Scriptural reading (like Charles Taze Russell)? |
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| 08:28 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-27#1059860 << the first page mentioned is quite interesting. |
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| 08:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-27 16:03:13 bonechewer: Chinese are playing with ice40 too. hardware, software |
| 08:29 |
gregory5 |
"In accordance with the development of the industry, FGPAs are receiving more and more attention, and numerous fields such as |
| 08:30 |
gregory5 |
5G, mining machines, artificial intelligence, image-detection, and RISC-V, have all run into FPGA's shadow. |
| 08:30 |
gregory5 |
The famous FPGA vendors are Xilinx, Altera, and Lattice. Among these, Xilinx is the "boss." Altera was acquired by Intel in 2015 |
| 08:31 |
gregory5 |
for 16.7 billion USD. Lattice has medium-low market-share. Within our country there are also many FPGA vendors including |
| 08:32 |
gregory5 |
Guangdong Gaoyun, Shanghai Anlu, Xi'an Zhiduojing, and Shanghai Aogexin, but these are all in their early stages of |
| 08:32 |
gregory5 |
development, and fall behind their international counterparts by some distance. |
| 08:33 |
gregory5 |
The basic principles of FPGAs are not complicated. Their inner portion consists of some logical units and storage-units. |
| 08:34 |
gregory5 |
Along with PLL and some IP. The logical units are connected through routing. Such combinations may give rise to any |
| 08:34 |
gregory5 |
sort of complex logic. It is as displayed by the image below:" |
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| 13:57 |
dpb |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060019 << all of the churches that were supposed to have existed in extra biblical history, they all taught against what we know the Bible says today. |
| 13:57 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 02:10:41 mats: gets even more watered down after protestant reformation since the last hundred years, unitarians and whatever |
| 14:08 |
dpb |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060025 << it was started by a few people who formerly were members of MacArthur's false church in California, but I would not describe it as a split. I guess we are like Taze. I agree with a thing he allegedly taught, which is that the churches haven't been in the truth as early as the first century. |
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| 14:08 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 04:25:00 gregory5: dpb: was your church split off from another, or was it based on an ab-initio Scriptural reading (like Charles Taze Russell)? |
| 14:11 |
dpb |
that is, the churches we can read about. I believe there have always been true believers and churches throughout history, but that they have been a minority small enough to be hidden from extra-Biblical history. God is causing this so that most people will not be saved, because He wants to make a show of them being destroyed in hell. |
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| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060017 << aha, lulzy. |
| 14:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 01:08:59 punkman: so you mention raytheon IP, and within 30 min, guy comes in to tell you "it's not what you think" |
| 14:34 |
* |
asciilifeform saw that ip range was still Officially owned by BBN, which asciilifeform knew from historical texts and with dismay but not surprise learned that it had been digested long ago |
| 14:36 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060026 << interesting how? per your translation, is a schoolbook summary of subj |
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| 14:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 04:28:30 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-27#1059860 << the first page mentioned is quite interesting. |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 14:37 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $42090.31 |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.090s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.148s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=702735 (Operator: whaack) |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.159s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.294s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.356s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:37 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.642s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=702735 |
| 14:38 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
| 14:38 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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| 15:42 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: the guy's messages here weren't for anyone here. they were for his employer. |
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| 15:42 |
signpost |
"aw shit, got caught looking at porn at work" |
| 15:43 |
asciilifeform |
lol whoknows |
| 15:43 |
asciilifeform |
d00d could always grow a pair of balls and set up a bouncer |
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| 15:43 |
signpost |
bored, minimization of interest, etc |
| 15:45 |
signpost |
and the swearing not to do it at work again, lol |
| 15:45 |
signpost |
this country's full of kept cowards. |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: the 'pants down' speech pattern was intruguing -- 'wasn't that! and wasn't me! and won't again!' |
| 15:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-04-24 14:05:30 asciilifeform: 'he ain't dead, an' if he is, wasn't i who killed'im, and if i had, bastard had it coming' etc |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
*intriguing |
| 15:49 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: bbn co. was 1 of the great american wonders of the world, right up there w/ bell labs & parc. and such crater nao. |
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| 18:18 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060071 << not only refresh www log within 30 min, but then also dig up irc password to come in and reply. |
| 18:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 11:43:33 asciilifeform: d00d could always grow a pair of balls and set up a bouncer |
| 18:18 |
punkman |
perhaps already irc regular? |
| 18:20 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: well, recall, claimed to be a long-timer lurker. |
| 18:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-28 17:36:50 notsospooky: I am just a bored developer who, long ago, used to play with Lisp machines and enjoys loper-os. |
| 18:30 |
jonsykkel |
btw just solved the global energy crisis |
| 18:30 |
jonsykkel |
u just send a bunch of wether baloons up into air with wires atached and get static electricity from clouds gg |
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| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: there's 100+v b/w your head and feet incidentally. no need for clouds. go and extract work from the potential diff tho. |
| 18:31 |
shinohai |
jonsykkel: I'll inflate all the magnum condoms and attach leads posthaste, will report back if lappy powers on. |
| 18:36 |
jonsykkel |
asciilifeform: well id imagine clouds continously generate stuff as they are rubbing against eachother or wtf it is etc |
| 18:36 |
jonsykkel |
shinohai: good keep me posted |
| 18:38 |
punkman |
there was this movie, they had ocean movement energy extractors, but it made earth's rotation slow down and world was gonna end |
| 18:39 |
PeterL |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-27#1059873 << shouldn't that (in your quirky usage) be "mine SHA" since it starts with a vowel sound? |
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| 18:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-27 16:54:21 verisimilitude: My SHA design required the others, because they influenced message length calculation, but Serpent doesn't have this concern. |
| 18:39 |
punkman |
"Southland Tales" |
| 18:40 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: kindergarten puzzle: if could extract like this, determine how many kW/hr could extract before stops entirely |
| 18:51 |
jonsykkel |
got 5.94*10^22 |
| 18:52 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: show how! |
| 18:52 |
jonsykkel |
copied from wikipedia and turned into kwh |
| 18:54 |
jonsykkel |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotational_energy#:~:text=As%20the%20Earth%20has%20a,2.138%C3%971029%20J. |
| 18:55 |
jonsykkel |
was looking for just moment of inertia but result was spoiled |
| 18:55 |
asciilifeform |
lolk |
| 18:57 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060039 << not since the first century... I must say, that is quite a dismal worldview. |
| 18:57 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 10:08:55 dpb: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060025 << it was started by a few people who formerly were members of MacArthur's false church in California, but I would not describe it as a split. I guess we are like Taze. I agree with a thing he allegedly taught, which is that the churches haven't been in the truth as early as the first century. |
| 18:59 |
punkman |
my guess is even slowing down earth day by couple seconds would give you more energy than total used by humans in last 10,000 years |
| 18:59 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060045 << because it indicates that Chinese firms might be interested in restoring 1990s style FPGAs which were just a bag of LUTs. |
| 18:59 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 10:36:42 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060026 << interesting how? per your translation, is a schoolbook summary of subj |
| 18:59 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060068 << astute observation. |
| 18:59 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 11:42:49 signpost: asciilifeform: the guy's messages here weren't for anyone here. they were for his employer. |
| 19:00 |
asciilifeform |
gregory5: re '90s fpgas -- see also. |
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| 19:00 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-27 15:43:11 asciilifeform: bonechewer: 1 of these co's actually wrote to asciilifeform last yr, asked whether he'd agree to help design. but when asciilifeform discovered that they want asciilifeform to ~contribute money~ also, the conversation ended, there was nuffin to talk about, lol, after that |
| 19:00 |
asciilifeform |
gregory5: if were genuinely interested, would've already done it. |
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| 19:01 |
asciilifeform |
but they aint. for same reason as 1980s su wasn't interested in developing own native cpu archs. |
| 19:01 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2014-04-03 asciilifeform: re: GLONASS: russia fucked the goat when it decided, in late '70s, to copy american CPUs so that warez can be used instead of investing in software dev. |
| 19:01 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-05-10 asciilifeform: ru has indigenous cpu design tradition, and many of the folks who were at it prior to the great 'warez shift' of mid-'70s, when compatibility with western cpus was mandated from above - are still alive |
| 19:02 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060108 << yea I saw that. |
| 19:02 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 15:00:20 asciilifeform: gregory5: re '90s fpgas -- see also. |
| 19:06 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-29#1060110 << there will be more opportunities after the Chinese w/ American degrees have declined. I would give it some time. |
| 19:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-29 15:00:49 asciilifeform: gregory5: if were genuinely interested, would've already done it. |
| 19:06 |
asciilifeform |
i hear there'll be opportunities when sun burns out also, lol |
| 19:06 |
asciilifeform |
(under the sea, for chemotrophic bacteria) |
| 19:09 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2015-08-06#1227801 << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oSpEiDCWJA |
| 19:09 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-08-06 punkman: "Well, in my first six movies I was just "Krysta." You know, but then in order to differentiate myself from the 76 other Krystas in the business, I added the "Now." Well, it's all about now, 2008, not next week, not tomorrow. If you wanna fuck me, you can fuck me... now." |
| 19:10 |
asciilifeform |
aaha. |
| 19:11 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCYB0lzoofc << frankly, I don't know how this thing is not "cult classic" yet |
| 19:12 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
| 19:18 |
punkman |
oh hey they released extended cut on blueray earlier this year |
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| 19:52 |
bonechewer |
Tangentially relevant to USSR CPUs and Chinese FPGAs, Russia is importing chip fab engineers from Taiwan |
| 19:55 |
asciilifeform |
'доход ведущего специалиста в этой области может составлять до $20 000 в месяц' << notbad for ru, but pretty mediocre for 'leading specialist' by overall planet3 standards |
| 19:57 |
bonechewer |
It's all relative, but I have nfi how that compares to what they'd make in TW or CN. Or maybe these are just the guys who can't stand the heat in TW and like the idea of snowy Russia |
| 19:58 |
asciilifeform |
iirc mats was in tw recently ? |
| 19:58 |
asciilifeform |
maybe could comment. |
| 19:59 |
asciilifeform |
in usa that's a bog-standard programmer's (not 'web monkey', but systems etc) wage. |
| 20:00 |
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bonechewer is either underpaid, or more simian than he realizes |
| 20:01 |
asciilifeform |
bonechewer: prolly underpaid, if you haven't switched shops in the current (2020--) hyperinflation cycle |
| 20:02 |
bonechewer |
You are kind to assume that answer |
| 20:02 |
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bonechewer peels another banana |
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| 21:03 |
mats |
cost of living is lower in tw, don't know how that compares to ru |
| 21:05 |
mats |
the health care system is very good and premiums are low by local standards |
| 21:08 |
mats |
i don't know too much about salaries but i've read that tsmc engineers are relatively poorly paid |
| 21:09 |
mats |
lots of brain drain to cn and us |
| 21:09 |
mats |
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/China-hires-over-100-TSMC-engineers-in-push-for-chip-leadership old news |
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| 21:31 |
punkman |
"Biden could fine firms up to $700,000 if they fail to mandate vaccines according to a "vaccine enforcement mechanism" that is part of the $3.5 trillion "Build Back Better" bill" |
| 21:31 |
punkman |
3.5 trill, nice |
| 21:35 |
mats |
"While the actual cost of this new legislation will ultimately depend heavily on details that have yet to be revealed, the policies under consideration could cost between $5 trillion and $5.5 trillion over a decade, assuming they are made permanent. In order to fit these proposals within a $3.5 trillion budget target, lawmakers apparently intend to have some policies expire before the end of the ten-year budget window, using this |
| 21:35 |
mats |
oft-criticized [www.crfb.org/papers/playing-budget-rules-understanding-and-preventing-budget-gimmicks%23gimmick10][budget gimmick] to hide their true cost." |