00:29 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: decent article |
00:34 |
punkman |
PeterL: as if the president tells the Fed how much to print, and not the other way around |
00:44 |
punkman |
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1425751441629716485 "The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones. |
00:44 |
punkman |
Billions of US tax payer $ going to Islamist extremists, thanks to the administration's hasty withdrawal without a peace deal or follow up mission." |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
01:02 |
punkman |
even more Q&A from "dear hacker": https://pastebin.com/Q8cxjesr |
01:03 |
punkman |
"I AM A HIGH PROFILE HACKER IN THE REAL WORLD (LEAKING IDENTITY 2). I WORK IN THE SECURITY INDUSTRY AND HAVE BEEN DEVOTED TO HACKING CAREER SINCE YOUNG (LEAKING IDENTITY 3). SERIOUSLY, AS SECURITY RESEARCHERS, OUR JOB IS TO SAVE THE HIDDEN WORLD." |
01:05 |
punkman |
"NOT NATIVE SPEAKER. (LEAKING IDENTITY 1)" << sure looks like native speaker to me |
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01:07 |
punkman |
"IF ANY HACKER CAN FIND MY SOCIAL IDENTITY IN ONE MONTH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND HIM MY PERSONAL GIFT. OTHERWISE, I MAY OR MAY NOT LEAK ANOTHER CLUE OF MY IDENTITY. SHALL WE PLAY THE GAME?" |
01:08 |
punkman |
https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0xc8a65fadf0e0ddaf421f28feab69bf6e2e589963&f=2 << all messages he sent to self can be seen here |
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01:35 |
verisimilitude |
I'm surprised asciilifeform owns an iPad, but I do see many phone WWW browsers from here in my server logs. |
01:41 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: why surprised ? asciilifeform has a great many boxes, for many uses, even a winblows box |
01:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052462 << at this pt asciilifeform 99% convinced that it's a radio play , for publicity and pumping. |
01:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-12 21:01:24 punkman: "NOT NATIVE SPEAKER. (LEAKING IDENTITY 1)" << sure looks like native speaker to me |
01:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-10 10:58:45 asciilifeform: punkman et al : is there any evidence against the hypothesis that such shitcoin 'heists' are perpetrated by the shitcoin author himself ? |
01:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-10 16:53:08 asciilifeform: punkman: whole thing (incl. the '600 million $!!111 losses!111') is scheme to portray shitcoins as 'worth money' |
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02:04 |
verisimilitude |
Why not be surprised? |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
02:31 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in wholly unrelated '19 lulz. |
02:33 |
asciilifeform |
^ sensationalist, imho, title, but basic observation is troo -- if you actually found how to reach one of the given magic states, then you have fucked the algo (at least for arbitrary-length inputs, e.g. vtronics) |
02:33 |
asciilifeform |
discussion of this elsewhere on www : apparently 0. |
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~ 1 hours 21 minutes ~ |
03:55 |
verisimilitude |
What a shame; the SHA-3 paper was a pleasant read, and I liked that the lack of a length made avoiding mistakes there easier. |
03:56 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: the moar interesting question that the linked author did not ask, is whether other hash schemes could be shown to lack a loop state |
03:57 |
asciilifeform |
(it is not clear to asciilifeform that they necessarily do not) |
03:58 |
verisimilitude |
The length being in the final block helps. |
03:58 |
verisimilitude |
It helps against some of the attacks mentioned. |
04:02 |
* |
asciilifeform historically 'hash pessimist' |
04:06 |
verisimilitude |
Again, this reminds me of something I've written: Through the rotations, this message goes; where will the bits flip, nobody knows! |
04:06 |
verisimilitude |
Any code I write won't assume collisions never happen; anything else is foolish. |
04:06 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: well, not 'nobody', lol |
04:10 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: the twist is that all kindsa things necessarily rely on 'impossibility' of collision. incl. e.g. bitcoin. |
04:10 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-09-01 asciilifeform: trinque: the other thing, if you are going to put entire weight of the known universe on a hash, gotta specify what happens in case of a collision. |
04:13 |
verisimilitude |
Yes. |
04:13 |
asciilifeform |
err, here's the correct link for above |
04:13 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-03-11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, didja ever calculate what would happen to trb (or for that matter prb) if one were to produce a colliding txid ? |
04:13 |
verisimilitude |
So, to me, it looks like a house of cards. |
04:14 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: errything's a house of cards. |
04:14 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
04:15 |
verisimilitude |
I'm fully aware of how fragile these things really are, asciilifeform. |
04:15 |
verisimilitude |
RSA stops working if factoring primes becomes easy. |
04:15 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
04:15 |
verisimilitude |
A one-time pad always works. |
04:16 |
* |
asciilifeform will factor any prime you like, for small fee!1111 |
04:16 |
verisimilitude |
Once perfect foundations are abandoned, it's a matter of risk. |
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04:17 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: a reliable otp is in practice inaccessible to erryone but owners of FG or equivalent (i.e. auditable, unwhitened) tool |
04:17 |
verisimilitude |
So? |
04:17 |
verisimilitude |
We know I'm right. |
04:18 |
asciilifeform |
re which |
04:18 |
verisimilitude |
Mostly, regarding hashes. |
04:18 |
verisimilitude |
I've always viewed relying on them as fragile. |
04:19 |
verisimilitude |
If collisions are possible, a correct program must handle them. |
04:19 |
verisimilitude |
s/are/be/ |
04:20 |
asciilifeform |
the interesting q is what if anything interesting in cryptography, outside of otp, is possible w/out relying on hashism. |
04:20 |
verisimilitude |
I agree. |
04:21 |
asciilifeform |
all known public key signature schemes, for instance, rely on hashism somewhere. |
04:22 |
* |
asciilifeform must bbl. |
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~ 10 hours 38 minutes ~ |
15:01 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
15:01 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
15:01 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:01 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:01 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:01 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.032s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.085s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:01 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.110s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.149s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695578 (Operator: whaack) |
15:01 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.159s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.276s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.327s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.552s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 |
15:01 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.482s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695578 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:02 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:02 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
15:02 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
15:02 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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19:00 |
* |
asciilifeform continuing in keccak lulz, asciilifeform surveyed dozen or so published impls. of the algo, incl. e.g. this www-based item (specifically keccak, rather than sha3) and found that they agree w/ one another, but none with the diana kludge used in current vtron. |
19:00 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-09-02 asciilifeform: incidentally shinohai keccak != usg.sha3 |
19:00 |
* |
asciilifeform evidently doomed to a log archaeological expedition to find why. |
19:01 |
asciilifeform |
unless e.g. signpost happens to remember |
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19:57 |
PeterL |
asciilifeform: If you remember, I once wrote a keccak implementation. It did not agree with Diana's, I think it might have to do with the endianness of how you put the data into the sponge function |
19:57 |
PeterL |
but I never actually nailed down what the difference was |
19:58 |
PeterL |
I don't remember if I checked against any other implementations though |
19:58 |
PeterL |
(sorry if this is not actually very helpful) |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: i recall |
20:02 |
* |
asciilifeform pictures : what if mp had asked somebody to make a mains grid; it'd've been, say, 170 volt, and 'is the way it is because it is!111' etc |
20:14 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
20:14 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $47478.84 |
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22:23 |
PeterL |
!s uptime |
22:23 |
scoopbot |
PeterL: time since my last reconnect : 9d 1h 14m |
22:25 |
PeterL |
I am going to be sitting in the woods for the next ~week, hopefully our scoopy little friend keeps going without me watching :) |
22:30 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: enjoy! |