00:06 |
vex |
the mean phd essay likely investigates something entirely useless, lemme spend 6 years attempting to investigate |
00:17 |
vex |
noone would accept it.. gestimating taylor swifts' bush trimming style via analysis of nashville singers.. yep, write it |
00:20 |
punkman |
hey vex, what's the drink tonight |
00:20 |
vex |
just a couple of beers mate, trying to keep it soberish |
00:21 |
vex |
hey has anyone ever woken up from a bender with like A LOT of tornado cash notes? |
00:21 |
vex |
jk. wasn't me |
00:23 |
vex |
is it still smokey over there punkman? |
00:24 |
punkman |
the priests did a litany and it rained |
00:24 |
vex |
wow |
00:24 |
punkman |
clearly they still got a line to the big man |
00:26 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjlTOqagjuY |
00:33 |
vex |
I like it, it's going in the car |
00:35 |
vex |
it's got a smokey vibe |
00:37 |
vex |
have you been getting epic sunsets? |
00:51 |
shinohai |
I'm still awake when vex is online? I must not have drank enuf wine at dinner. |
00:52 |
vex |
heya shinohai |
00:56 |
shinohai |
How goes this evening? |
00:58 |
vex |
not bad mate, lungs pumping o2 |
01:03 |
vex |
you're fairly well attuned to various modern comms, any idea why the auditor chose to send back on bsc? |
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01:26 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-09#1051456 << this is a fundamental cultural dichotomy, imo ; some folks simply have a feudalism-compatible worldview, despite perhaps hoping that their pretty daughter marries upwards |
01:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 14:18:32 mats: it matters to putin at least, can't be out there showing off multi billion dollar estates and offshored bank accounts while many russians live in the mud |
01:30 |
adlai |
the examples with which I'm familiar are from 'Israeli' oligarchs; a few of these are 0th-generation immigrants from e.g. USSR collapse, who bought their way into the nation, while others are families that did so over half a century ago ; in either case, the mode of opinions is surprisingly close to a laissez-faire attitude, where any great fortune being spent on luxuries is simply part |
01:30 |
adlai |
of the economy, and we should all be glad that the fortune is being spent rather than adsorbing dust in a vault |
01:31 |
adlai |
of course, in the case of the former prime minister, this was countered by a significant minority who actively picketed his residence, and protested with iconography verging upon the limits between free speech and incitement to violence ; yet most oligarchs are not stupid enough to become prime minister |
01:32 |
vex |
his aussie neighbour is having issues |
01:35 |
vex |
fucking with his casino license |
01:37 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-09#1051486 << fwiw, my SR1-related arrest has passed the deadline for local prosecutors to press charges, and I'm considering doing a writeup; it deserves a bit more than an IRC tl;dr |
01:37 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 14:33:37 mats: not like any idiot with a horse and cart could participate in the silk road anyway |
01:39 |
adlai |
however, the IRC tl;dr is that I conducted enough commerce via SR1 to get arrested as local bigshot, rather than mere plebe dope fiend ; and this was in 2013, with coin purchased in 2013... not much room for excitement |
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01:39 |
* |
adlai does, at times, suspect that he walked into some sort of interpol spiderweb |
01:40 |
adlai |
dang vex peaced just as I arrived! mebbe next time. |
01:40 |
* |
adlai continues reading logs |
01:45 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-09#1051508 << I'm familiar with the "five eyes" epithet , i.e. USA & four out of the former british empire ; who are the other nine? |
01:45 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 14:43:58 mats: i understand attribution is difficult, but the fourteen eyes still have a unique, panopticon view of the planetary network |
01:48 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-09#1051553 << shugger blyut. |
01:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 15:29:55 asciilifeform: oh hey the old qntra finally RIP. ( asciilifeform's mirror covers, fortunately, entirety of it ! ) |
01:50 |
adlai |
there were a few (i.e. "significantly more than zero; and plural, too!") things that MP bankrolled, that kept me around before I ever had a personal stake in things, and Qntra, along with puzzling over the S.QNTR model, was one of these |
01:51 |
adlai |
text in quotes is not a precise quotation, although aims to approximate the author's response to the question, "so how many humans are fluent in this Lojban language that you invented?" |
01:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-11#1052228 << sounds promisingly entertaining, would read |
01:55 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-11 21:35:12 adlai: however, the IRC tl;dr is that I conducted enough commerce via SR1 to get arrested as local bigshot, rather than mere plebe dope fiend ; and this was in 2013, with coin purchased in 2013... not much room for excitement |
01:55 |
* |
adlai does wonder -- loudly! -- when and whether alf's single-parent ISP corp will be accepting new customers |
01:56 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: well asciilifeform expanded the ip addr park recently, and wasn't all for self, lol |
01:58 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: were you interested in hosting sumthing? |
02:00 |
adlai |
yes; as I have mentioned before, my 'bouncer' is a little charity thing that tacoma narrowsed under tradebot levels of abuse, and I've yet to properly export this out of my own desk. |
02:00 |
* |
adlai did have an arrangement with jurov for a brief while, when experimenting with S.MPOE ; although, the loads were intentionally heavily ratelimited, not only because MPEx itself was heavily ratelimited |
02:01 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: i rec the rk for this application. |
02:01 |
adlai |
S.ALF's DC is physically located in MD, right? |
02:02 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: aha. it's next to a telco dc, a bulldozer park, etc |
02:02 |
asciilifeform |
the catalogue has a link to their www if yer curious. |
02:02 |
* |
adlai is painfully aware that certain goxxes actively ban customers according to geoip, and require KYC checkbox "I am not a US Person [footnote ; sixteen kg of IRS paperwork if box unchecked"] |
02:03 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: rrright, if yer looking to fix ~that~ , you've come to wrong side of planet |
02:03 |
asciilifeform |
you'd want the ~opposite~ of asciilifeform's colo. |
02:03 |
adlai |
most notably, BitMEX did this, and at least had the politeness to notify customers |
02:04 |
* |
adlai refused to KYC for the sole purpose of getting account frozen ; subsequently got polite "thank you for trading with us; please explain TXIDs A, B, C, ...etc ", despite not filling out their KYC garbage! |
02:05 |
adlai |
dunno what exactly they expected to get in reply to that email ; "ah yes, that was to the Sheikh's second cousin thrice removed's widow, who needed bikeshed improvement loan" |
02:07 |
adlai |
asciilifeform: no, I am not hiding my identity from exchanges where I actively trade, nor do I ever plan to do this ; however, I simply stop trading at exchanges that undergo catastrophic management reformattings, and then ask me to KYC for the sole purpose of confirming that my account violates their terms of paperwork reduction |
02:07 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: simply pointing out that usa is last place you want to connect to goxes from , in general case |
02:08 |
adlai |
well, 'goxes' is not a homogenous space! |
02:08 |
adlai |
e.g., encompasses both spot exchanges, and margin casinos. |
02:08 |
* |
asciilifeform tries to think of an application which calls for proxy ~in~ usa, rather than opposite |
02:09 |
adlai |
if buddy with coinbase acct decides to test-drive scalpl, this makes sense. |
02:10 |
adlai |
additionally, certain strangenesses of the internet connectivity graph make it so that using a server in a datacentre on the other side of the world from the desk is more efficient than running from the desk, despite the desk being closer, great-circle-wise, to the exchange. |
02:12 |
* |
adlai once argued with customer support reps of a margin casino about their recommendation that algotraders rent a VPS next to the exchange, and claimed that it shouldn't matter ~to them~ where in the internet algotraders host ; after a few grammatically-precise politenesses, realized he was probably arguing with chatbot |
02:12 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: so then, read the instructions and see which if any catalogue item worx for you. (plz note that the prices are not negotiable) |
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02:12 |
adlai |
pffflol, negotiations are for ... negotiators. |
02:13 |
* |
adlai actually has slightly amusing anecdote on this topic |
02:14 |
adlai |
current apartment stood empty for an unknown amount of time, before I occupied; and realestate agents informed me that the landlord was flexible about the precise amount of rent. |
02:14 |
adlai |
so I said, "ok, let's make rent $thismuch" ... agents:"done" ; then we meet landlord to sign paperwork, agents inform her of the rent! |
02:15 |
* |
adlai does not consider that process negotiation, either ; was only "here is anchor, where is your bid?", as opposed to haggling |
02:16 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: whatever you want to call it -- it aint how asciilifeform's isp worx. the price is the price. |
02:17 |
adlai |
right, this is one fundamental difference, imo, between meatspace and the net |
02:17 |
asciilifeform |
and plox to read carefully sect.2 of the linked manual. |
02:17 |
asciilifeform |
the current cost calc is here. |
02:18 |
vex |
when asciilifeform was involved with piz, I seem to recall not usa was an engineering requirement. |
02:18 |
asciilifeform |
vex: it was, indeed |
02:18 |
adlai |
upstack slightly: I take this to mean that there is even any use, whatsoever, to considering the costs? I distinctly recall inquiring a while back, iirc in the #trilema days, and getting response "all RKs booked" |
02:18 |
asciilifeform |
vex: asciilifeform's isp is not, unfortunately, a plug-in replacement for piz. |
02:18 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: the rk's at piz were certainly booked |
02:19 |
asciilifeform |
here i have 17 vacant (in fact, in shrinkwrap) rk |
02:19 |
asciilifeform |
(to be exact -- 12 in shrinkwrap, and 5 ex-piz iirc) |
02:20 |
* |
adlai always wondered wtf enscheidet tswischen 'pre-owned' and 'used, good as new' |
02:20 |
adlai |
definitely not the shrinkwrap! |
02:21 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: compact history of piz for your curiosity. ( if any unclear -- can always ask bingoboingo ) |
02:21 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-08 11:59:24 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: having trouble locating the thread on demise of pizarro isp; more specifically the "why" and the "how" |
02:21 |
adlai |
ty, "al lo davar" ; hebrew idiom roughly consists of literal politeness with impolite connotation that you are wasting your breath |
02:22 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: subscribers get rk at random, + fresh disk ; if dies -- gets swapped. |
02:22 |
* |
adlai watched both S.BBET, and S.BISP, meltdowns, blow-by-blow |
02:22 |
asciilifeform |
hm possib. i misaddressed that comment, it was vex asking 'why in usa' |
02:23 |
adlai |
well, I was never an investor in either, so it is plausible that I am considered rando. |
02:23 |
* |
adlai never had neither mpex nor coinbr accts, either; lol! |
02:23 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: well asciilifeform has you as +2 'horseman of common lisp robopocalypse' |
02:24 |
asciilifeform |
so not 'rando' |
02:24 |
asciilifeform |
see handbook re subj. |
02:25 |
adlai |
fwiw, I must ask a linguistic question, if I am already speaking such nonsense as "never... neither... nor" ; asciilifeform , do you find that you bias towards parity, xor monotonicity, in accumulation of negatives? |
02:25 |
adlai |
allegedly, russian biases towards monotonicity, whereas anglotard biases towards parity. |
02:25 |
adlai |
so you are an interesting test case in this regard. |
02:25 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: elaborate? |
02:26 |
vex |
lol |
02:27 |
adlai |
according to written materials, encountered while reading about the modern russian language: when you encounter a sentence containing more than one negative, they do not cancel each other out, in a manner similar to XOR, and instead simply by virtue of having more than one negative modifier, the entire sentence gets a negative connotation. |
02:28 |
vex |
i'm not laughing at you, that was a real lol, alf asking adlai to eloborate on an elaborate... just lovely |
02:28 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: this is correct |
02:28 |
adlai |
so e.g. "never had neither mpex nor coinbr accts" would be considered par for the course, for a russian speaker; whereas if I were writing that in an "English for Hebrew Idjits" class, my teacher would rightly deduct points. |
02:29 |
asciilifeform |
lol to asciilifeform seemed 100% correct |
02:29 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: in modern ivrit similar or no ? |
02:29 |
vex |
I wasn't sure with adlai, sometimes he takes things the wrong way |
02:29 |
adlai |
fwiw, I have never formally studied hebrew, and have roughly middle-schooler fluency, on paper; yet my impression is that any adult, when confronted with the question of which of these is the correct phrasing, would respond, "why are you saying such complex nonsense? what you, some lawyer nark? stfu!" |
02:30 |
adlai |
modern hebrew is a remarkably stupefying language, in both written and spoken forms. |
02:30 |
asciilifeform |
howssat? |
02:30 |
adlai |
as opposed to english and russian, that both at least seem to admit arbitrarily complex grammatical constructions, even if these might not be commonplace in the vernaculars. |
02:31 |
adlai |
e.g., subjunctive is M.I.A. |
02:31 |
adlai |
in hebrew , subjunctive and past imperfect are both functionally and literally equivalent |
02:31 |
asciilifeform |
hey, conlang, neh, folx dropped 'useless' creepingfeatures, iirc was the idea |
02:31 |
adlai |
iiuc, this is in both modern and biblical. |
02:32 |
adlai |
could be that subjunctive postdates the group hallucinations that eventually got formalized into biblical hebrew. |
02:32 |
adlai |
fwiw, conlangs are not all strict simplifications of naturals |
02:33 |
* |
asciilifeform aware |
02:33 |
adlai |
e.g., lojban is a simplification, as far as the lexical topology of how to spell nouns and verbs, and how to order words in a sentence, although iiuc, is a strict complexification of grammar |
02:34 |
adlai |
grammatically speaking, they (he?) basically, in the case of lojban, said, "let's take the least common multiple of all spoken grammars", in contrast to esperanto's "let's be understandable by monke" |
02:35 |
* |
vex style monke pretends to understand |
02:35 |
adlai |
vex: I do not take laughter as insult |
02:35 |
* |
vex pours moar virtual vodka |
02:36 |
adlai |
that is one behavior that gets pretty much entirely bred out of idjits during basic training, even if they happen to have acquired it during their first decade of consciousness. |
02:36 |
adlai |
anyone who takes laughter as insult will get the shit kicked out of them, one chunk at a time. |
02:37 |
vex |
whao adlai, theres no fighing while i'm pouring |
02:37 |
adlai |
ofc not! |
02:37 |
adlai |
fights never happen on parade ground |
02:38 |
adlai |
entire macroscale effect of basic trainings is abrading mutually ridiculous demographics |
02:38 |
adlai |
sure, in short term, produces squads, teaches rifle maintenance, etc |
02:39 |
adlai |
in long term, teaches that mutual ridiculousness is simple fact of being monke, rather than simple fact of "we r great ape, you -- lesser" |
02:40 |
adlai |
perhaps this does not happen in pre-homogenized societies. |
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02:55 |
vex |
heres to the shit that's forver lost in the logs |
02:55 |
adlai |
why forever lost? |
02:56 |
vex |
theres a billion permutations in there |
02:56 |
adlai |
someday the misquotations might get immortalized in some apostle's epistles. |
02:56 |
vex |
well that's a good toast too. to what adlai said! |
03:03 |
vex |
mp's pets haven't mentioned a wake yet huh? |
03:05 |
adlai |
wake is a dirty word for a case of drowning. |
03:06 |
* |
adlai can't recall whether logs contain his own experience with waters; tl;dr - was short skinny little shit during highschool, got typecast as cox |
03:06 |
adlai |
fortunately, I'd learned to swim before getting thrown in. |
03:06 |
adlai |
and never thrown in to serious waters, only tame little puddles. |
03:07 |
vex |
I was thrown in since dot |
03:07 |
* |
adlai drowned at ~5yo, then took swimming lessons |
03:07 |
vex |
how fast 50m? |
03:08 |
adlai |
drowned = remembers paddling around with floaties, taking floaties off, jumping off plastic island surrounded by >2m water, regaining consciousness outside of pool |
03:08 |
adlai |
never raced! |
03:08 |
vex |
it's nice huh? i've done it too, I was older |
03:09 |
vex |
mp is in heaven for all the people wondering |
03:09 |
adlai |
at least, not outside of gym classes where there was no timer, only "last one there's a rotten egg" |
03:10 |
adlai |
swimming is amazing, though; I think the supermajority of my muscle cramps were all from the first five minutes in cold water during the years when gym classes included pool days. |
03:11 |
adlai |
coach was champ, too: "oh, you got a cramp? ok, paddle around in the shallow end until your cramp is gone, then join the rest of the class over there" |
03:12 |
adlai |
vex: where would you host a wake, anyway? allegedly, mp's disciples span five different equivalence classes of extradition treaties. |
03:13 |
vex |
your house? |
03:13 |
adlai |
there is much to be said for the jewish approach, i.e., "oh, you didn't hear of the death within 24h? ok, perform observances according to your own beliefs" |
03:13 |
vex |
it's been nearly two moons |
03:14 |
adlai |
fwiw, the official jewish approach is funeral ~within~ 24h, wake lasting max six days, revisit grave one month after burial, and observances at yearly anniversaries hence. |
03:15 |
adlai |
although it gets bent outta shape because people bitch about holidays, saturdays, etc. |
03:15 |
adlai |
in the brave new world, it's not too difficult to keep a corpse chilled ~indefinitely |
03:15 |
adlai |
tradition originates from the days when it actually became practical to ask whether it smelled like sainthood after a week. |
03:17 |
vex |
i don't think mp was extra jewish. cunt was pagan as fuck |
03:19 |
* |
adlai recalls one of the infinite derisions being "gypsy jew" |
03:19 |
adlai |
fwiw, it is not difficult for hybrid vigor to produce "gypsy jew" etc |
03:19 |
vex |
idk, dude seemed ignorant of derision |
03:20 |
adlai |
now, I have no idea whether actual Roma caravans would recognise "gypsy jew" as subset of "Roma" ; however, jewish genetics is definitely slutty, as opposed to posh. |
03:21 |
adlai |
posh genetics = "both parents must be tribemembers ; slut punishable by disownment" |
03:21 |
adlai |
several tribes operate this way, whereas judaism notably operates according to "only relevant chromosome is mitochondrion" |
03:22 |
vex |
afik he had distain for the x & the y |
03:24 |
adlai |
I don't think that a healthy understanding of modern biology -- specifically, genetics -- is reconcileable with worship of humanity, in any of its tribal forms. |
03:24 |
vex |
a true wildling |
03:25 |
adlai |
possibly this is one reason that tribalism frequently coincides with dogmatic rejection of modern theories of genetics. |
03:28 |
* |
adlai finds most popularizations of biology quite barf-worthy, whether written millenia, centuries, or decades ago |
03:29 |
vex |
ancient egyptians have been reporteted even here at the end of the earth |
03:29 |
adlai |
maybe I'm simply bad at understanding that kind of prose, yet I've never quite appreciated the fine hair splits that biologists quibble over. |
03:30 |
adlai |
at least, not the ones who waffle about grand theories. molecular biology has never suffered from the grand theoretic wafflings. |
03:30 |
vex |
your ycombinator has little affect |
03:30 |
adlai |
uwot? |
03:30 |
vex |
you hear me cunt |
03:30 |
adlai |
wtf does 'ycombinator' have to do with this |
03:31 |
vex |
your mom |
03:31 |
vex |
she doesn't have much say in the matter |
03:31 |
* |
adlai can't even tell whether vex is referring to chromosome, shartup accelerator, high-order-function, or simply verbalising |
03:31 |
vex |
chromosomal affect, but yes, take it as you will |
03:31 |
adlai |
you are referring to X-chromosome as "ycombinator" ? |
03:32 |
vex |
also just verbalosing. monke |
03:33 |
* |
adlai always understood slight converse to be dominant ; i.e., Y-chromosome functions as shattered X-chromosome, modulates whatever happened to have survived the meiosis fandango |
03:33 |
vex |
yeah no |
03:33 |
adlai |
however, given the whole interactome, both descriptions are probably correct, separately for each individual promoter |
03:34 |
adlai |
speaking of biology, I need to go and negotiate fines with the campus libraries |
03:35 |
adlai |
regrettably, both plurals are correct |
03:35 |
vex |
lol |
03:36 |
* |
adlai does not know where exactly along the "zero to $price in four seconds" continuum fall the loss fines, although intends to keep at least one book |
03:36 |
adlai |
it is a paperback. should not be too painful to keep! |
03:36 |
vex |
must read. send satoshis |
03:37 |
adlai |
don't buy oceancoin, vex. |
03:37 |
vex |
oceancoin? never fucking herd of it |
03:37 |
adlai |
variant of "don't drink ocean water", "don't take wooden nickles", etc |
03:37 |
* |
adlai wanders off |
03:37 |
vex |
oh ok, I was thinking "don't tempt me, ill take it" |
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04:16 |
vex |
whisky throttl; |
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04:37 |
scoopbot |
New post on Bingology - The Blog of Aaron 'BingoBoingo' Rogier: An Exploration In Multi Media Toilets |
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~ 3 hours 31 minutes ~ |
08:09 |
punkman |
Uruguay does sound like nice place |
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08:42 |
punkman |
bingoboingo: you can definitely milk an audience out of that toilet. lots of people interested in "english-speaking expat in far away land". |
08:44 |
punkman |
I recommend doing the "walking around city, talking to camera" thing |
08:45 |
punkman |
lets viewer enjoy the scenery, you get unexpected guests barging in, gives you things to talk about |
08:48 |
punkman |
there was guy in china I used to watch, would tour chinese countryside with buddy on bikes, talk to each other about random things |
08:49 |
punkman |
moved to US though, mostly doing commentary "podcast" now, so I've stopped following |
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10:50 |
punkman |
"we are finding a persistent issue with getting (undergrad, new to research) students to understand that a file/directory structure exists, and how it works. " |
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12:59 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: haven't tested this, but i suspect that an obey_sendbuffersize node (A), when catching up blocks, may end up banning peer (B) with >2x the sendbuffersize, if B advertises blocks with full capacity, in response to A's "getblocks" |
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13:02 |
cgra |
a possibly interesting consequence is that it adds an extra issue to consider: the already-deployed obey_sendbuffersize nodes when mapping out the trb swamp of protocol ram usage |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
13:18 |
cgra |
fwiw, judging by the amount of OOM holes in trb, and absence of other issues similar to the 'wedge', seems to me the wedge was just someone pulling blocks in maximum force, for whatever reason, unaware of the lethal side effects. all these added up, obey_sendbuffersize may have been better off not rating such peers for misbehavior |
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14:32 |
punkman |
[p2p] Reduce addr blackholes https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21528 |
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14:33 |
punkman |
might be of interest to trb fans |
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~ 58 minutes ~ |
15:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052405 << these'd be even moar interesting if you linked to the lulsource, punkman |
15:31 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-12 06:45:49 punkman: "we are finding a persistent issue with getting (undergrad, new to research) students to understand that a file/directory structure exists, and how it works. " |
15:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052408 << i don't buy this. (1 -- naturally-occurring, but somehow went for 5+y w/out happening even once? 2 -- methodically knocked down erry node on published roster daily until patched iirc) |
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15:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-12 09:13:49 cgra: fwiw, judging by the amount of OOM holes in trb, and absence of other issues similar to the 'wedge', seems to me the wedge was just someone pulling blocks in maximum force, for whatever reason, unaware of the lethal side effects. all these added up, obey_sendbuffersize may have been better off not rating such peers for misbehavior |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052409 << would say 'may account for prb nodes which refuse to send addrs' but seems too recent for this. |
15:34 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-12 10:28:30 punkman: [p2p] Reduce addr blackholes https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21528 |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
15:34 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
15:34 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:34 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:34 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
15:34 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.031s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:34 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.085s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
15:34 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.171s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.088s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695435 (Operator: whaack) |
15:34 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.220s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.327s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:34 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.679s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695435 |
15:35 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:35 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
15:36 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
15:36 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
15:36 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: rando professor on twitter, not that interesting |
15:38 |
punkman |
in other SFYL news https://twitter.com/TheDaoMaker/status/1425817681366712323 |
15:39 |
punkman |
"Cipher Blade, a leading blockchain forensics expert company, has been contracted and is doing everything possible to track down the criminal and return the stolen funds. They have already identified an implicated Binance account and are closely collaborating with Etherscan to learn more about the hackers' whereabouts. " |
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16:06 |
cgra |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052413 << re 2) can't see why stop there, when first hole gets plugged. if really want nodes down and stay down. re 1) maybe some version appeared that routinely pulls too hard |
16:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-12 11:28:26 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-12#1052408 << i don't buy this. (1 -- naturally-occurring, but somehow went for 5+y w/out happening even once? 2 -- methodically knocked down erry node on published roster daily until patched iirc) |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: iirc that particular bug was described in a prb communique. so, possible that the 'wedger' simply did not know of others. |
16:20 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: the other possibly relevant detail is that it wasn't a quick-oom , but a wedge where node very slowly shits itself while unresponsive to commands, and at very little expense from trigger end. |
16:21 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. would stay down for day+, even if hanging off an autorestart script. |
16:23 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: those both points would then make sense to me, especially the former |
16:26 |
cgra |
if nothing else, a handy way to push prb upgrading :) |
16:35 |
punkman |
"TO CRYPTO NOOBS: IN THE DEFI WORLD, CODE IS LAW. THEN WHO IS THE ARBITRATOR? WE, THE HACKERS, ARE THE ARMED FORCES. IF YOU ARE GIVEN WEAPONS AND GUARDING BILLIONS FROM THE CROWD WHILE BEING _ANONYMOUS_, WILL YOU BE A TERRORIST OR THE BATMAN?" |
16:35 |
punkman |
from "dear hacker" |
16:36 |
punkman |
Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/499c8e213a05fd2a6337291d3f133658/pasted.txt |
16:36 |
punkman |
oops |
16:40 |
punkman |
https://pastebin.com/u16WLU2g |
16:41 |
punkman |
so the tards offer 500k bounty, he turns it down |
16:41 |
punkman |
and sends all the ETH back |
16:43 |
punkman |
"NOW COMES THE LAST TOKEN, ETH! HOWEVER, I AM TERRIFIED FOR THE FIRST TIME! THEY ARE CALLING ME MR. 600 MILLION, BUT THE PRICE OF ETH IS GOING DOWN RECENTLY, WHAT IF MY BALANCE CAN NOT COVER THE DEBT? ETH TO THE MOON PLZ!" |
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19:19 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in misc. 'pandemic' lulz. |
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22:31 |
PeterL |
from fishwrap: "Nearly 80 percent of Americans blame Biden for inflation surge: poll" (not even going to include a link) Because it makes sense to blame this guy instead of the previous guy or the "stimulus" money printing |