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14:17 PeterL http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0
14:17 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-22 19:07:10 gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048064 << I consider children who obtained citizenship without taking the Oath (because of parents' naturalization) to be second gen.
14:18 PeterL did the source of feedbot ever get published?
14:29 PeterL I did find my old "scoopbot" script, I might be able to get that back up and running
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14:55 asciilifeform wb PeterL
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15:54 asciilifeform PeterL: something like scoopbot would be a++ useful. atm doesn't seem like feedbot is coming to dulapnet.
16:05 asciilifeform !w poll
16:05 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
16:05 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
16:05 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
16:05 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
16:05 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:05 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.130s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:05 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=692927 (Operator: whaack)
16:05 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412068 (Operator: jurov)
16:05 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.337s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.731s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:05 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.579s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927
16:07 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:07 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:07 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:09 asciilifeform !w uptime
16:09 watchglass asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 17d 18h 17m
16:09 asciilifeform !q uptime
16:09 dulapbot asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 41d 13h 7m
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16:25 whaack asciilifeform: do you have an nginx (or apache) + flask guide / conf file available for your gentoo boxes?
16:25 asciilifeform whaack: not beyond what's in the logotron readme. iirc dpb and billymg had some tho
16:26 asciilifeform whaack: if you ran into particular headache, don't hesitate to put in log
16:27 billymg whaack: there were a few hiccups when i was configuring my wsgi app for the first time. what are you running into?
16:28 whaack billymg: just starting now, was checking to see if I could go off a guide, so no hiccups yet
16:29 billymg whaack: ah, yeah, check the readme in the logotron tree. there's a cut/paste example vhost config in there
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17:53 whaack asciilifeform: i hit this error when running emerge on apache, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=HkEn looks like emerge needed to grab something from a repository that has deadlinks. Do you have another way you got apache on your machine?
17:54 asciilifeform whaack: it's on the dulap repo
17:54 asciilifeform whaack: is your box configured to use it ?
17:55 asciilifeform example
17:55 dulapbot Logged on 2020-08-20 17:50:24 asciilifeform: Aerthean: if you use this gentoo, you will probably also want to use my packages repo . in /etc/portage/make.conf , GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://dulap.xyz/gentoo/" .
17:57 whaack asciilifeform: yes it is
17:58 asciilifeform whaack: then why is it loading that tarball from heathens ?
17:58 asciilifeform whaack: can paste log plz ?
17:58 whaack do i need to specify to use that mirror somehow?
17:58 asciilifeform make it 1st on list
17:59 whaack other than having the GENTOO_MIRRORS set to the string above
17:59 asciilifeform ah no, that oughta suffice
18:01 whaack asciilifeform: interesting part from log is that it tried your repo first and couldn't find apache http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MgU7
18:02 asciilifeform whaack: i'ma take a look shortly, sadly tied up in liquishit atm
18:03 asciilifeform # ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2
18:03 asciilifeform -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 854100 Oct 22 2017 /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2
18:03 whaack asciilifeform: cool, ty
18:05 asciilifeform and yet indeed 404!
18:05 asciilifeform am i blind or wat
18:05 asciilifeform [27/Jul/2021:14:04:19 -0400] "GET /gentoo/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 404 - "-"
18:05 asciilifeform oooh 1s
18:06 asciilifeform whaack: plox to retry
18:07 * asciilifeform really oughta make simlinks, atm the public repo is separate dir from local
18:07 asciilifeform *symlinks
18:07 whaack asciilifeform: looks like the files are available now, running emerge again, ty!
18:11 asciilifeform whaack: np
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20:46 whaack asciilifeform: can you point me in the right direction with this error I'm receiving? 'Invalid command 'WSGIPythonPath', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration'
20:46 whaack looks like I need to install the WSGIPythonPath module, but i'm not quite sure how to do so
20:57 asciilifeform whaack: do you have mod_wsgi ?
21:00 whaack asciilifeform: just figured out that that was what I was missing, installing now
21:00 asciilifeform aite
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21:43 whaack asciilifeform: got it installed, but it seems to be using a different python version, trying to figure out which
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21:59 punkman "We are making efforts to move towards fully open graphics using the KMS driver, we have released libcamera which is open source camera stuff. Still need to use the firmware for some codecs. Also, apart from the GPU firmware, there is also firmware on the Wifi chip - that is closed source but comes from Cypress so nothing to do with us. Also the
21:59 punkman bootloader on the Pi4 is closed source. That is unlikely to change in the near future. This there is also firmware on the USB controller on the Pi4, again nothing to do with us, we just supply the binary."
21:59 punkman after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it."
22:00 punkman (this from raspberry folks)
22:01 punkman asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working?
22:04 punkman "The vast majority of our customers care nothing about open source or closed binary blobs" << yeah I guess the customers just wanted them to pretend about being "open source", and they got exactly what they really wanted
22:14 asciilifeform re 'raspberry', see also e.g..
22:14 dulapbot (trilema) 2015-03-06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments)
22:14 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049025 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-26#1027318
22:14 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 18:01:14 punkman: asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working?
22:14 dulapbot Logged on 2020-12-26 14:45:07 asciilifeform: macc24: there's been afaik no major discoveries, by anyone, re: subj, since my orig. overview of cr50.
22:15 asciilifeform punkman: i'm assuming your q was 'did you find a way to disarm the boobytrap'. answer is nope.
22:16 asciilifeform to disarm it needs, near as i was able to tell (with substantial effort to look for bugs) -- their rsa privkey.
22:20 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049023 << archaetypical redditware.
22:20 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 17:59:58 punkman: after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it."
22:27 punkman asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using?
22:28 punkman or was pogo the last good one
22:34 punkman frankly I can't blame the raspberry folks too much. it's a business, what can you do, spend years on own firmware to make box that doesn't run youtube video? no, they built empire instead
22:37 punkman the raspberry keyboard is kinda cool, cpu integrated, you just plug it into monitor. I'd give it noobs that need small linux box.
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23:03 billymg whaack: set target python version to 2.7 in /etc/portage/make.conf and emerge mod_wsgi again, i ran into the same issue
23:10 whaack billymg: ty, figured it out, but that was it
23:10 billymg nice
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23:29 gregory4 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1048954 << it is openly admitted that there are different ways of counting generations.
23:29 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 10:17:34 PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0
23:30 gregory4 the drawback of counting based on birth is that naturalized immigrants and their children occupy the same generation.
23:31 gregory4 (assuming that the children were not born within the United States)
23:33 gregory4 taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did.
23:33 gregory4 *be grouped
23:38 gregory4 speaking of the Rasberry Pi, has anyone tried "riscos" before? any thoughts?
23:39 gregory4 I mean, does it have any perceivable advantages over Linux?
23:42 whaack !e height
23:42 trbexplorer 692983
23:46 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049037 << pogo wasn't a rockchip, was 32bit 'marvell'
23:46 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 18:28:00 punkman: or was pogo the last good one
23:48 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049036 << rk3328. there were 6 of'em installed at piz; now several at asciilifeform's isp, w/ same os.
23:48 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 18:27:40 punkman: asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using?
23:48 dulapbot Logged on 2021-02-23 11:15:18 asciilifeform: ( moar detailed photo of above )
23:48 gregory4 I missed out on the entire PogoPlug cycle, sadly.
23:49 asciilifeform gregory4: didn't miss anything that'd be interesting today.
23:51 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049047 << who has seen bureaucracy, 'will not laugh at the circus'. asciilifeform for instance had to go in 3y after rest of family (and already in possession of u.s. passport!) to get oath and 'naturalization cert'. university demanded, for inscrutable reason. went to 'ins', they grudgingly disgorged.
23:51 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-27 19:33:29 gregory4: taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did.
23:52 * asciilifeform bbl
23:57 gregory4 asciilifeform: so you were already a citizen, but your university demanded that you obtain a "naturalization cert?"
23:57 gregory4 that sounds quite inconvenient. sorry to hear.
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