14:17 |
PeterL |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0 |
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14:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-22 19:07:10 gregory4: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048064 << I consider children who obtained citizenship without taking the Oath (because of parents' naturalization) to be second gen. |
14:18 |
PeterL |
did the source of feedbot ever get published? |
14:29 |
PeterL |
I did find my old "scoopbot" script, I might be able to get that back up and running |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
14:55 |
asciilifeform |
wb PeterL |
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~ 59 minutes ~ |
15:54 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: something like scoopbot would be a++ useful. atm doesn't seem like feedbot is coming to dulapnet. |
16:05 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
16:05 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
16:05 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
16:05 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
16:05 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
16:05 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
16:05 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.130s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
16:05 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=692927 (Operator: whaack) |
16:05 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412068 (Operator: jurov) |
16:05 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.337s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.731s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:05 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.579s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=692927 |
16:07 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
16:07 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
16:07 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
16:09 |
asciilifeform |
!w uptime |
16:09 |
watchglass |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 17d 18h 17m |
16:09 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
16:09 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 41d 13h 7m |
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16:25 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: do you have an nginx (or apache) + flask guide / conf file available for your gentoo boxes? |
16:25 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: not beyond what's in the logotron readme. iirc dpb and billymg had some tho |
16:26 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: if you ran into particular headache, don't hesitate to put in log |
16:27 |
billymg |
whaack: there were a few hiccups when i was configuring my wsgi app for the first time. what are you running into? |
16:28 |
whaack |
billymg: just starting now, was checking to see if I could go off a guide, so no hiccups yet |
16:29 |
billymg |
whaack: ah, yeah, check the readme in the logotron tree. there's a cut/paste example vhost config in there |
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17:53 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: i hit this error when running emerge on apache, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=HkEn looks like emerge needed to grab something from a repository that has deadlinks. Do you have another way you got apache on your machine? |
17:54 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: it's on the dulap repo |
17:54 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: is your box configured to use it ? |
17:55 |
asciilifeform |
example |
17:55 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-08-20 17:50:24 asciilifeform: Aerthean: if you use this gentoo, you will probably also want to use my packages repo . in /etc/portage/make.conf , GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://dulap.xyz/gentoo/" . |
17:57 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: yes it is |
17:58 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: then why is it loading that tarball from heathens ? |
17:58 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: can paste log plz ? |
17:58 |
whaack |
do i need to specify to use that mirror somehow? |
17:58 |
asciilifeform |
make it 1st on list |
17:59 |
whaack |
other than having the GENTOO_MIRRORS set to the string above |
17:59 |
asciilifeform |
ah no, that oughta suffice |
18:01 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: interesting part from log is that it tried your repo first and couldn't find apache http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MgU7 |
18:02 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: i'ma take a look shortly, sadly tied up in liquishit atm |
18:03 |
asciilifeform |
# ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2 |
18:03 |
asciilifeform |
-rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 854100 Oct 22 2017 /usr/portage/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2 |
18:03 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: cool, ty |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
and yet indeed 404! |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
am i blind or wat |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
[27/Jul/2021:14:04:19 -0400] "GET /gentoo/distfiles/apr-1.6.3.tar.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 404 - "-" |
18:05 |
asciilifeform |
oooh 1s |
18:06 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: plox to retry |
18:07 |
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asciilifeform really oughta make simlinks, atm the public repo is separate dir from local |
18:07 |
asciilifeform |
*symlinks |
18:07 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: looks like the files are available now, running emerge again, ty! |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: np |
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20:46 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: can you point me in the right direction with this error I'm receiving? 'Invalid command 'WSGIPythonPath', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration' |
20:46 |
whaack |
looks like I need to install the WSGIPythonPath module, but i'm not quite sure how to do so |
20:57 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: do you have mod_wsgi ? |
21:00 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: just figured out that that was what I was missing, installing now |
21:00 |
asciilifeform |
aite |
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21:43 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: got it installed, but it seems to be using a different python version, trying to figure out which |
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21:59 |
punkman |
"We are making efforts to move towards fully open graphics using the KMS driver, we have released libcamera which is open source camera stuff. Still need to use the firmware for some codecs. Also, apart from the GPU firmware, there is also firmware on the Wifi chip - that is closed source but comes from Cypress so nothing to do with us. Also the |
21:59 |
punkman |
bootloader on the Pi4 is closed source. That is unlikely to change in the near future. This there is also firmware on the USB controller on the Pi4, again nothing to do with us, we just supply the binary." |
21:59 |
punkman |
after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it." |
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22:00 |
punkman |
(this from raspberry folks) |
22:01 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working? |
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22:04 |
punkman |
"The vast majority of our customers care nothing about open source or closed binary blobs" << yeah I guess the customers just wanted them to pretend about being "open source", and they got exactly what they really wanted |
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22:14 |
asciilifeform |
re 'raspberry', see also e.g.. |
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22:14 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-03-06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments) |
22:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049025 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-26#1027318 |
22:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 18:01:14 punkman: asciilifeform: did you get the Asus C101PA working? |
22:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-12-26 14:45:07 asciilifeform: macc24: there's been afaik no major discoveries, by anyone, re: subj, since my orig. overview of cr50. |
22:15 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: i'm assuming your q was 'did you find a way to disarm the boobytrap'. answer is nope. |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
to disarm it needs, near as i was able to tell (with substantial effort to look for bugs) -- their rsa privkey. |
22:20 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049023 << archaetypical redditware. |
22:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 17:59:58 punkman: after years of "we are working on it!", finally back to "We are not hung up on having to supply closed source firmware, we take the pragmatic approach that life is better with it than without it." |
22:27 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using? |
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22:28 |
punkman |
or was pogo the last good one |
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22:34 |
punkman |
frankly I can't blame the raspberry folks too much. it's a business, what can you do, spend years on own firmware to make box that doesn't run youtube video? no, they built empire instead |
22:37 |
punkman |
the raspberry keyboard is kinda cool, cpu integrated, you just plug it into monitor. I'd give it noobs that need small linux box. |
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23:03 |
billymg |
whaack: set target python version to 2.7 in /etc/portage/make.conf and emerge mod_wsgi again, i ran into the same issue |
23:10 |
whaack |
billymg: ty, figured it out, but that was it |
23:10 |
billymg |
nice |
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23:29 |
gregory4 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1048954 << it is openly admitted that there are different ways of counting generations. |
23:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 10:17:34 PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-22#1048066 << in my experience, 1st gen typically refers to children of immigrants, 2nd gen is grandchildren of immigrants. Asciilifeform would be gen 0 |
23:30 |
gregory4 |
the drawback of counting based on birth is that naturalized immigrants and their children occupy the same generation. |
23:31 |
gregory4 |
(assuming that the children were not born within the United States) |
23:33 |
gregory4 |
taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did. |
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23:33 |
gregory4 |
*be grouped |
23:38 |
gregory4 |
speaking of the Rasberry Pi, has anyone tried "riscos" before? any thoughts? |
23:39 |
gregory4 |
I mean, does it have any perceivable advantages over Linux? |
23:42 |
whaack |
!e height |
23:42 |
trbexplorer |
692983 |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049037 << pogo wasn't a rockchip, was 32bit 'marvell' |
23:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 18:28:00 punkman: or was pogo the last good one |
23:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049036 << rk3328. there were 6 of'em installed at piz; now several at asciilifeform's isp, w/ same os. |
23:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 18:27:40 punkman: asciilifeform: did you find any other non-laptop rockhips worth using? |
23:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-02-23 11:15:18 asciilifeform: ( moar detailed photo of above ) |
23:48 |
gregory4 |
I missed out on the entire PogoPlug cycle, sadly. |
23:49 |
asciilifeform |
gregory4: didn't miss anything that'd be interesting today. |
23:51 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-27#1049047 << who has seen bureaucracy, 'will not laugh at the circus'. asciilifeform for instance had to go in 3y after rest of family (and already in possession of u.s. passport!) to get oath and 'naturalization cert'. university demanded, for inscrutable reason. went to 'ins', they grudgingly disgorged. |
23:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-27 19:33:29 gregory4: taking the Oath (or any oath) is a serious act IMO. the child who did not take the Oath should not be groups with the parents who did. |
23:52 |
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asciilifeform bbl |
23:57 |
gregory4 |
asciilifeform: so you were already a citizen, but your university demanded that you obtain a "naturalization cert?" |
23:57 |
gregory4 |
that sounds quite inconvenient. sorry to hear. |