#asciilifeform | 2020-07-17

!w poll

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Polling 12 nodes...

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103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.589s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639633

~ 1 hours 46 minutes ~

12:30

'hackthebox' is fun and only 10eur/mo, best sub money i've ever spent

12:30

mats: wat's that ?

12:31

hosted collection of ctfs, like overthewire and others in the past

12:39

how is your tutoring going? getting gud with a pistol?

12:39

mats: was 1time weekend refresher thing. rifles.

12:40

mats: what've you been up to ?

12:43

until this week i'd been spending a lot of time training in the gym (boxing), swimming, ctfs, and watching too much television

12:43

socal's having a helluva time with the covid deniers

12:45

been debating on/off about whether to buy a firearm, i live in a nice area with responsive police, but you never know what idiots will do

12:46

theres a disturbing number of 'ghost' receivers , hundreds of thousands of them, getting on the streets

12:46

mats: the plastic thing ?

12:46

no, cody wilson is a shmuck, its the real thing

12:47

less serial. i personally know three people who were able to purchase them online with credit cards without any of the usual controls

12:47

that those people would buy them (they are asians), is a surprise unto itself, the times are a changing

12:48

mats: is this just the usual blackmarket irons, or the one where you gotta machine N % of it yerself ?

12:48

former, and all you need are hand tools

12:48

latter*

12:50

well, in e.g. philippines they still make whole thing w/ hand tools

12:51

kalash, pistol, whichever

12:51

https://www.thetrace.org/2019/05/ghost-gun-california-crime some coverage

12:51

if yer patient, can make just about any iron by hand.

12:52

mats: in 1970s SU there was a famous gang that made 100% own SMGs entirely by hand. they worked great, and still can be seen in museum

12:52

it aint a mars rocket, decent craftsman can make in a week or so from junkyard stock.

12:53

right

12:53

what astonishes asciilifeform , is the morons who make and then can't resist to post on net...

12:54

i'm also debating whether or not to buy some of the new fangled ultralight ceramic inserts and a plate carrier

12:54

afaik these sold 100% openly in usa.

12:55

its a couple thou up front, but they're good for decades, so amortisation isn't so bad

12:55

( unlike e.g. su )

12:57

mats: i still suspect that at some pt usg will close the ancient loophole and serialize the barrels, like in the other reich countries

12:58

fifty years too late for that

12:59

in other not so news, https://books.google.com/books/about/Irreversible_Damage.html?id=GO6yDwAAQBAJ

12:59

author predictably decried in the usual papers as 'anti trans' and what not

12:59

iirc these came up in #t

13:01

this ships with more scholarship than polemic

13:02

self-mutilation cults are nuffin new, they had'em in medieval ru, self-castrators etc

13:02

( for that matter, even in rome.. )

13:04

mats: re the seekrit weapons -- asciilifeform always thought it'd make sense for the enthusiasts to take the time and learn basic metalwork. a decent cnc rig can be had 2ndhand for less than what most of the fancy 'ar' etc are sold for commercially. then make whatever.

13:05

a day in the machine shop certainly spares you from association with unsavory characters that traffic in these items

13:08

in commiefornia, legal ar15 comes with a ridiculous pinhole mod of the mag ejector, so you need a small object to dump, and legal mag limits are 10 rounds or less

13:09

Get a big bore pre-compressed air fully automatic rifle. Their performance is almost as good as firearms now.

13:09

It worked for Lewis and Clarke.

13:10

interesting, i was under impression that anyffin more modern than bow&arrow were banned in californistan

13:10

superkuh: i actually have 1 of those, a+++ for pest control

13:10

they aint cheap, however

13:10

i forget the year (maybe post-2010), most new model firearms can only be purchased by law enforcement in ca

13:12

mats: afaik californistan is traditionally most fascist locale in usa, for many decades nao

13:13

https://reason.com/2019/02/06/californias-ban-on-all-new-pistol-models featuring volokh conspiracy, which i hadn't heard of until it was mentioned here (or #t? don't remember)

13:14

i miss reading the regular conversations between you and mp, it was a weekly thing for me

13:15

mats: maybe was entertaining to read later, but the actual process felt rather like bashing head against cement wall

13:16

apropos of thread, incidentally, mp fancied himself a great armaments expert, even tho had nfi that 'eagle' fires blunt bullet with negligible penetration, entirely unlike 50 bmg. a fact known even to small children in usa.

13:16

there was definitely a lot more inscrutable mp rage to skim over in the latter half of tmsr

13:17

but i still occasionally grep the logs on a monthly basis for an interesting tidbit here and there

13:17

there's plenty of interesting&useful in the old logs.

13:17

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asciilifeform regularly links.

13:19

mats: re arms, i find it interesting that despite the low cost of modern cnc, there's ~0 meaningful experimentation among the enthusiasts with genuinely new concepts. e.g. the liquid propellants suggested in '70s in nato world.

13:20

theoretically could dispense with the need for precision brass cases. 1 fewer difficult-to-produce item for reich to ban .

13:21

near as i can tell, all the american garage folx are making the same tired old vietnam war broomstick

13:21

i'm not familiar with these liquid propellants

13:22

example straight from pentagon.

13:22

genuine 'ban' has long been a nonstarter, and proliferation is at absurd levels

13:24

i expect people will still be digging up buried caches of ar in 2220, like recovery of qing(?) era muskets dug up for the kmt/ccp civil war

13:24

hm no ming actually

13:25

in ex-sov world, to this day ww2 (and even ww1) -era irons still regularly feature in police blotter

13:26

i have doubts re longevity of american 'ar' tho, far too fiddly mechanism. and multitude of annoying little springs.

13:27

"hydroxyl ammonium nitrate based liquid monopropellant" Whoa boy. Good thing they never tried it in a barrel with a diameter of more than a few inches.

13:28

Only takes 3 or so for the deflagration to detonation transition shockwave in ammonium nitrate slurries.

13:28

superkuh: linked item is merely 1 example. various armies keep returning to the idea, it is attractive to dispense with the soldier having to carry 20kg of brass, when could instead carry 4x the bullet

13:28

but afaik never perfected.

13:28

Yeah. It's a neat idea.

13:29

i wish pdfs were more easily parseable

13:29

mats: afaik all the dtic material is plain old scan of telefax.

13:30

i'd pay for a roided pocket/historio.us (without 10k bookmarks limit) hat will index pdf content, second degree index of content of urls within urls, hitting archive.org/is if a page isnt live and caching the result, with regex plus google style modifier search like site:, around(n), wildcards, -query +query OR AND etc

13:30

would need futuristic ocrism, neh.

13:31

i have a massive library of interesting bookmarks (to which your link has been added) that i search regularly, and pdfs regularly fall through the gaps

13:31

mats: at 1 time, i fed these through ocr, then realized that even a 1 in 50pg error rate makes the output ~useless for technical material

13:32

(and in practice eggogism is much greater than above)

13:33

I download everything and then use Recoll for full text index and search.

13:33

when i mirror pdfisms on own www, i do it like this. still aint searchable, but at least dun require GB+ of shitware to display.

13:33

http://www.recoll.org

13:34

superkuh: how's the ocr ?

13:34

Not part of it.

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13:35

i've yet to see an ocrtron that doesn't miserably fall down when given mathematical (esp. 'dark ages' , made on typewriter) material

13:35

and that happens to be most of what's on my hdd

13:35

https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/usermanual/usermanual.html#RCL.INDEXING.OCR

13:35

Apparently it has modules for tesseract and other OCR.

13:36

right. nao if only it actually worked..

13:36

Yeah. I've messed with tesseract before. And then stopped.

13:36

most book warez that was in fact ocr-able, is already in plain .txt on my machine (largely ru stuff)

13:37

the remainder, aint ocrable at all, cuz loox like the earlier link.

13:48

mats: re bans and 'proliferations' -- theoretically any uppity plebe in usa found w/ something more than bow&arrow can be given 20-to-life if prosecutor willing to spend an evening or 2 'sewing a case'

13:48

(trilema) 2017-05-10 asciilifeform: remember, this was the country where a man got 20 yrs for being found with a shoelace and a semiauto

13:49

it's more about 'chilling effect' / 'make example' than actual attempt to make what is in effect 19th c. tech somehow unobtainable

13:51

and commercial manufacturers generally won't touch anyffin that smells of 'almost banned'. take the example of electrically-fired primers.

13:52

for a time, these were seen as an advance -- no firing pin, potentially much smaller wobble -- 0 mechanical clockwork for trigger. but then usg proclaimed 'these can be turned into banned MG simply in software' and whole subject disappeared, from market, from trade literature, errywhere.

13:54

i remember seeing an advert for a remington weapon like this in mid 2000s, proclaimed as 'highly reliable' and futuristic

13:55

forgot about it until now, wonder why it hasnt taken off for military use

13:55

iirc there were problems, but nuffin that could not have been worked out via the usual iterative process. but no one wants to invest actual moneys in a design that could be banned at drop of a hat

13:56

Electronics just seem like a bad idea in a gun.

13:56

mats: pentagon very conservative with small arms design ever since vietnam debacle

13:56

superkuh: most of the aficionados (whether military or amateur) already rely on electronic sights

13:56

sometimes costing 5fig $

13:56

simpler design - no moving parts, more rounds on station, less recoil

13:57

simpler. and there are batteries that will last for 50+ yrs.

13:57

(trilema) 2017-05-17 asciilifeform: asciilifeform bought up the lithium thionyl chloride batteries, for pennies

13:58

What happens when someone drops a single flux compression generator or virtual cathode oscillator EMP in the area?

13:58

Those have been common since the 80s.

13:58

superkuh: overrated item. nobody cancelled inverse-square.

13:59

Just means more cost and complexity has to be built into the electronics of the gun.

13:59

nuke emp raised much false hopes re 'emp weapon', but most of the pushers are conscious frauds, pretending that similar effect can be achieved w/out pumping 1e12 charged particles suddenly through van allen belt

14:00

If you're talking effecting an entire city or region, okay. But I totally believe in EMP for a few blocks.

14:00

in reality, 20-50 metres. and at the cost of a full sized aerial bomb.

14:02

I suppose the effect as mines would be much less since they'd not have height above terrain and minimal LOS. But maybe in trees?

14:02

In terms of IED emp.

14:03

ru actually fielded an emp shell in early 2000s. worx great in the specific context (disabling active armour at close range prior to 2nd conventional shell)

14:03

penny for penny, a bouncing betty is better

14:03

mats: indeed. empism is typical 'golden toilet'.

14:03

I just like radio. :)

14:04

incidentally in context of war, only really worx against radios (i.e. where there is antenna that , by design, gotta receive, so cannot shield)

14:04

It's really hard to make any electronics without accidentally creating antenna that work for some random assortment of freqs.

14:05

most famous actual field use was in gulf war 1 , against baghdad tv station. (repaired 4h later! but no one asked 'how many hrs to repair if instead had used a 100 $ aviabomb, instead of 100,000 $ 'emp' )

14:05

as a schoolchild i was introduced by 'dune' to the idea that explosives are trivially accessible to people with books, at all levels of civilisation

14:05

mats: i was introduced before read 'dune', via actual explosives.

14:05

Same. It was my childhood hobby.

14:05

yes, the illustrious alf kindergarten

14:05

But I still have my fingers today.

14:06

i came up in 90s silicon valley, no such education available to me

14:06

is superb 'iq test' imho

14:07

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mats settled for rubber band guns made out of disposable chopsticks at age 8

14:07

mats: sv does seem to resemble su as depicted in usa caricatures, far more than the actual historic item

14:09

superkuh: incidentally, the story of how and why flux compressor was devised, imho is interesting in own right. originates with saharov's attempts to make a fissiles-free thermonuke, in '50s.

14:10

( unsurprisingly, ~100% of the solid material on subj, to this day only avail. in ru. )

14:10

Didn't know that. Makes sense if you want lots of current cheaply without big caps.

14:10

can get far moar current than from any physically-constructable caps

14:11

(and you still do need the caps -- that's how you get the initial field yer compressing w/ the dynamite)

14:11

Right. Just not huge caps.

14:11

http://erewhon.superkuh.com/library/Electronics/Magnetic%20Flux%20Compression/

14:12

superkuh: basic principle of course public for decades nao. but if you were to go & build, plenty of 'devil in details'

14:12

I think if I wanted EMP it'd be a simple spark gap marx hooked up to a copper pipe TEM horn in front of a parabolic dish.

14:13

several physical effects not usually encountered in radio work -- e.g. corona discharge (atmosphere conducts)

14:13

Well, marx->coax->TEM horn.

14:13

I've got a lot of HV experience.

14:13

Hobby-wise.

14:13

superkuh: folx routinely build this, then fry lappy at coupla meters, iirc there are public photos.

14:13

there are even commercial setups sold for testing shields.

14:14

Yeah, the TEM 'bridges' you put the device in are pretty neat.

14:14

however 'pull box outta knapsack and fry whole street' is science fiction.

14:14

elementarily , atmosphere does not permit the req'd field density in a reasonably small volume.

14:15

( nuke emp 'cheats' via use of ionosphere )

14:18

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-17#1016547 << this btw is much exaggerated. if entire device (incl. energy source) is in conductive contour, then emp irrelevant. no one cancelled green's theorem..

14:18

Logged on 2020-07-17 14:04:57 superkuh: It's really hard to make any electronics without accidentally creating antenna that work for some random assortment of freqs.

14:19

and on top of this, induced voltage only really problem if you have semiconductors. (recall mig-29, no shielding, but radar 100% lamp !)

14:20

For a firearm triggering system, yeah, it's probably inside metal. But unlikely a complete surface. Instead each slot will act like the equivalent antenna by babinets theorem.

14:20

Er, unlikely a completely surface surrounding the volume.

14:20

if the shell is in-battery pos., then can be 100% closed countour, i can't see wainot

14:22

barrel -- conductive, shell -- conductive , mechanism containing battery/trigger -- ditto

14:25

and since 0 semiconductors in circuit, what exactly can opponent hope to accomplish via emp ? induce the 5A or so the primer wants to fire , hope that rifle is pointed at yer foot while this happens ?

~ 1 hours 54 minutes ~

16:20

meanwhile, in lulz from other folx's chans .

16:20

(ossasepia) 2020-07-17 jfw: and *sigh* it was originally a ~$35 TRNG; vendor closed but the schematics are there waiting for someone to step up and make more

16:21

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asciilifeform still doesn't grasp what precisely prevents jfw et al from making own. asciilifeform documented the item to the point of nauseating pedantry.

16:23

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asciilifeform even hosts, pro bono, orig. www where whole thing lived.

16:30

can't resist to link to the lulzy 'glacier' idiocy, where is discussed 'failure scenarios' incl. e.g. 'Seismic side channel', 'Thermal side channel', 'malware', w/out mentioning that req. dep. 'bitcoin core' is itself malware.

16:42

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-17#1016587 <<< those who cannot do, tea^H^H^HBitch ?

16:42

Logged on 2020-07-17 16:21:53 asciilifeform: still doesn't grasp what precisely prevents jfw et al from making own. asciilifeform documented the item to the point of nauseating pedantry.

16:44

shinohai: i have nfi. it aint especially difficult to make. (tho if fella actually thinks 'when i sell out my warehouse of N, can get N+1 in a week or 2' has rude surprise waiting for him

16:45

)

16:46

fwiw asciilifeform initially anticipated having to make with hands, so deliberately designed for it to be possible (albeit unpleasant) -- e.g. did not use any smt parts smaller than 0805; no BGAs; etc

16:47

iirc jfw et al bought in the fire sale at least 1 example of prototype made exactly that way

~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~

17:53

https://downdetector.com/status/cloudflare/ <<< kek

~ 15 minutes ~

18:08

lollity

18:19

In other shits-n-giggles: https://archive.is/Mll5H

18:20

lol

18:20

wtf was it orig.?

18:21

It was part of the "parler" website (which is the Trump supporter's app that is answer to twitter or something)

18:26

shinohai: never heard of this..

18:32

Been about since late 2018, though appears just coming into fashion more with conservatives a Qtards.

18:32

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shinohai doesn't use, requires phone for signup

18:34

shinohai: you may recall, asciilifeform said in very beginning of 'trump revolution' , 'seen this film before -- zhirinovsky' .

18:34

(trilema) 2016-06-22 ascii_deadfiber: i dun see the 'winning.' the man is the american zhirinovsky - crafted heat sink for excitable 'red state' folk.

18:35

never had to 'disillusioned' , cuz illusion was very cheap trick on day1.

18:37