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10:47 asciilifeform !w poll
10:47 watchglass Polling 12 nodes...
10:47 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:47 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.105s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637092
10:47 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.108s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.169s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:47 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.086s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.221s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.214s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.328s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.371s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.562s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637187
10:47 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: jurov)
~ 1 hours 28 minutes ~
12:15 shinohai ty for the warez asciilifeform, unfortunately found nothing juicy within. :/
12:25 trinque anybody happen to know the spells necessary to produce a statically linked gprbuild (the tool itself) ?
12:25 * trinque is mucking around in the intestines of this now.
12:25 trinque wondering if there's something more polite than editing gprbuild.gpr
12:26 trinque last item standing in the way of toolchain genesis
12:28 asciilifeform trinque: ave1's gprbuild was static, tho
12:28 asciilifeform what happened there ?
12:28 asciilifeform $ ldd `which gprbuild`
12:28 asciilifeform not a dynamic executable
12:28 asciilifeform ^ on asciilifeform's box
12:31 shinohai Mine is same, used the modified version of ave1's thing w/ asciilifeform 's mirror.
12:31 asciilifeform shinohai: i found plenty of lulz (e.g. details of btc exchanges ratting out erry customer; Official handbooks on 'sovereign citizens'(tm)(r) sect; memos re 'ohnoez, dog-proof smuggling bags' , textbooks for working with stoolies, correctly lying to judges, etc. ) but unsurprisingly no mega-shockers
12:32 asciilifeform shinohai: currently seems that the piece was censored a la poitras & co 'release' of snowden collection
12:34 asciilifeform trinque: iirc ave1 (or rather the orig. author he cribbed from?) achieved static build by 100% removing the ability to build dynamic
12:34 asciilifeform (which imho is an entirely fine way of doing it)
12:34 asciilifeform this is why his thing required 2 passes
12:39 trinque asciilifeform: yeah, that's an option. looked though like gprbuild's own build process supported static... somehow.
12:39 asciilifeform trinque: afaik, the only conceivable use for even having dynamic build option, is debuggism (e.g. valgrind, requires it)
12:39 asciilifeform ( and anyffin else that needs LD_PRELOAD )
12:40 trinque yes, to the extent possible trying not to "fix by breaking"
12:40 asciilifeform so in principle would be not entirely useless to have the knob. but afaik ave1's item does not offer example of how.
12:40 trinque nbd, will press on, just checking caches
12:41 * trinque has by now an entirely hermetically sealed toolchain build, needs none of host system.
12:41 asciilifeform nifty. iirc ave1's actually sucked in some binutils crapola from host as it went.
12:42 trinque sucked in ??? which led me down this path
12:42 asciilifeform aha
12:42 trinque obviously still bootstraps with host system, but then rebuilds itself inside the chroot.
12:42 trinque same idea as gcc's bootstrap, but rebuilds everything in the chroot rather than just gcc
12:43 asciilifeform sounds like the exact Right Thing needed. sorta like ye olde 'rotor', but cleaner.
12:44 trinque sure, drew from ample precedent
12:44 asciilifeform ( for who doesn't remember, this was my kludge for building gcc/binutils using mutilated 'buildroot', which then built trb )
12:53 asciilifeform !q seen-anywhere ave1
12:53 snsabot ave1 last seen in #ossasepia on 2020-04-06 04:23:33: So could you try to build with single worker?
12:54 asciilifeform prolly out to sea permanently...
13:05 * trinque ftr does not fault ave1 for the work he did, just carrying it forward.
13:06 trinque I'd have been happy to do something else and let him carry.
13:06 * trinque bbl
13:06 asciilifeform right - imho it was a pretty good start. and his notes re porting the runtime to new irons are imho a++ handy.
~ 2 hours 25 minutes ~
15:32 trinque !!invoice asciilifeform 0.006 1yr of deedbot service
15:32 deedbot Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=X_1i
15:32 trinque !!v 5CD47DE6ACB93B5A43CD2F9FA0D50EDA89BFD3F6B89B39C190560E461CA47503
15:32 deedbot Invoiced asciilifeform 0.006 << 1yr of deedbot service
15:32 trinque ^ happy to start the ticker today.
15:37 asciilifeform !!pay-invoice 1
15:37 deedbot Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Gx87
15:37 asciilifeform !!v 913BBB4A1992A440705747007D62167395ABEF959BCAAEC9F367C10023C4D53C
15:38 asciilifeform hm trinque , shouldn't there be an output ?
15:38 asciilifeform !!received-invoices
15:38 deedbot http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=-JvX
15:39 asciilifeform ^ indeed says # is 1..
15:39 asciilifeform !!balance
15:39 deedbot http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Hlfl
15:40 asciilifeform ^ is (as oughta) enuff..
15:40 asciilifeform !!pay-invoice trinque 1
15:40 deedbot Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=j0PE
15:41 asciilifeform !!v 00527DCE15B034E6637AF4DA1C3121E0B908F8FB21D456F8685941ED21E82BF8
15:41 deedbot asciilifeform paid trinque invoice 1
15:41 asciilifeform hm. ( looked at the manual, seems like ^ is the correct knob. what did the earlier cmd do, tho... )
15:43 trinque it doesn't actually try to validate command inputs until the otp step.
15:43 asciilifeform a.
15:43 trinque somewhere down the line I'll give meaningful output on bad !!v
15:43 trinque right now just silently gives the finger
15:43 trinque at any rate, thanks for subscribing!
15:43 asciilifeform pleasure to do biz, trinque .
15:43 asciilifeform and deedbot so far seems to work a++.
15:44 * asciilifeform still interested in 'what costs a shot of deed' tho
15:50 trinque asciilifeform: when the deed address piggy runs dry, I'd say "cost of postage plus epsilon"
15:51 trinque for now seems appropriate to not pocket the donations and let them be used as donors intended
15:51 trinque quite a bit in there yet iirc
15:58 shinohai heya trinque ... I still have had no luck gluing all those pieces for logbot-cmd together. Whenever ya have time in future would appreciate the walkthrough for my notes, thx.
~ 24 minutes ~
16:23 asciilifeform trinque: aite
16:36 trinque shinohai: paste what ya got so far?
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