#asciilifeform | 2020-06-24

!w poll

10:36

Polling 11 nodes...

10:36

205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.022s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

10:36

108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.105s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147 (Operator: asciilifeform)

10:36

205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.148s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.129s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147 (Operator: asciilifeform)

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205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.148s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.166s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.397s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.562s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

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188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.626s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636149

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143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.281s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=636147

10:46

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adlai wonders why verisimilitude so frequently places contractions of first person verb forms in terminal position

10:47

it is not quite incorrect, at least, probably no more so than placing a preposition at the end when it is unambiguous what the preposition modifies.

10:51

also, there appear to be two missing hyphens in the second body paragraph of http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-06-06, where is written "character code-by-character code", instead of the more explicit "character-code-by-character-code"

10:54

and if your adherence to complete sentence structures extends outside of IRC, the previous paragraph's last three sentences should probably be one, thus: "This also has a large effect on programming languages: the mathematician... context; the programmer, cannot."

10:56

the elided referent of "with" in http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-02-22 is probably not unambiguous.

10:57

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adlai writes himself a tidy little "cease and desist, Prince Trippy has a comment protocol, use it" epilogue

~ 35 minutes ~

11:32

verisimilitude

I've not yet entirely rewritten my 2018-06-06 article again; I agree.

~ 19 minutes ~

11:51

incidentally, I found your descriptions of "real text" quite amusing, in light of an old astrol^H^H^H^H^H^Hgraphimetry pamphlet that I encountered recently, containing the author's typewritten alliterated bloviations about samples consisting mostly of signatures, although including a few lines of french and english prose, too.

~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~

12:55

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-24#1015278 << the key to this 'roman a clef' is quite simple. in usg there are two subgroups -- one is privy to the '90s change of strategy where 'instead of trying to ban pgp / 'make water not wet' -- we'll encourage proliferation of faux crypto and honeypot 'services' ' ; the other, not privy. the latter continue the clinton-era bloviations a la 'clipper' .

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12:55

snsabot

Logged on 2020-06-24 06:21:09 shinohai: Paging Kanzure https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/graham-cotton-blackburn-introduce-balanced-solution-to-bolster-national-security-end-use-of-warrant-proof-encryption-that-shields-criminal-activity

12:57

the former actually encourage, to some extent, the latter, deliberately -- it gives flavour of credibility to the honeypot crapola, from chump pov.

12:58

recall the demonstrative wank re ladar levison and his 'lavabit' etc.

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13:00

shinohai

I'm convinced this is where we get things like keybase.io, certain shitcoins, etc.

13:00

certainly is

13:00

where else.

13:03

originality aint these folx's strong point. the recipe where 'grow controlled pseudo-opposition' worked so well in ex-sovok that it was copied wholesale.

13:06

... and it worx great. observe that e.g. linux wasn't banned, as such. but at same time 'civilian' can't get hold of an actual linux for love or money.

13:07

and most folx dun even know that ye olde pgp is still, on paper, banned in e.g. fr, jp, ru, de. but 0 prosecutions -- it'd encourage use, naturally.

13:10

in ru in particular they eagerly copied this crypto-circus -- what with 'telegram' and demonstrative 'bans' of it, and similar lavabits.

13:11

anyffin, anyffin to keep folx from even thinking about actual (i.e. where the keyz live on yer hdd and nowhere else) crypto..

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13:14

exactly same tactic as the cultivation of 'anonism' to keep chumps from developing wot identities (as described in fact by mp in '13)

13:14

speaking of anyffin, asciilifeform : any idea how arithmetic turned into arifmetika?

13:14

adlai: ἀριθμός

13:14

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adlai only sees question marks, sadly

13:14

adlai: in pre-revolution ru texts, in fact they use the theta in the word

13:15

( at one time greek loan words were written in fact partially w/ the orig. letters , there )

13:15

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adlai can read the glyphs via the web logger!

13:16

adlai: see also : arithm. textbook used in ru for 200+ yrs.

13:18

adlai: in the 1918 reform, letters which had already for centuries been pronounced a la ru, e.g. θ as Ф, ended up merged. process really started under peter, but only ran to completion 200y after his death

13:18

cool cover, missing only plato's inscription :)

13:19

prior to peter, ru alphabet formally included almost all of the greek one.

13:21

adlai: the b00k was interesting item per se -- 1st of its kind there, and peter in fact ennobled the author for having written it

13:25

incidentally, shinohai : I doubt kanzure himself monitors this channel. I think he began losing interest around when his company (iirc, LedgerX) began raising venture funds

13:27

adlai: influence agents generally aint paid to bang head on wall (at least not perpetually) but to go where they have some roi.

13:28

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adlai still lurks on-and-off in kanzure's channel, although it often just results in pointless arguments instead of productive conversation

13:28

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asciilifeform 'refreshingly' not entirely forsaken by these vermin, e.g. the anonism pushers in www comments do still show up

13:29

adlai: which was this, the one with the tedious haskellisms ?

13:29

imagine a distant future where schoolchildren studying the dark ages of computing refer to topics by the loper-os post number!

13:29

lol

13:30

kanzure's channel is ##hplusroadmap, dunno what you mean by haskellisms... I have often seen FP proponents there, although most of the conversations are either scifi wankery, or folks griping about the crap quality of their secondhand equipment

13:31

adlai: i tend to think of the whole subculture as 'haskellism'

13:32

haskellism, until urbit condita fuerat

13:33

adlai: that there -- defo subspecies of haskellism

13:34