| 10:57 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
Polling 11 nodes... |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.061s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.146s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.160s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.166s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.249s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.387s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:57 |
watchglass |
188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.386s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=632753 |
| 10:58 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) |
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~ 7 hours 8 minutes ~ |
| 18:06 |
shinohai |
lol @ today's thread in #o with jurov and dc. Will s.mg produce anything besides blog posts on multicoloured blobs? Find out on the next episode .... |
| 18:15 |
Apocalyptic |
shinohai, heh I was just reading the thread as well |
| 18:16 |
Apocalyptic |
funny how dianna seems to imply the foundation funds should have been returned but it's ok that mpex kept coinbr funds |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: i care what comes outta s.mg approx. same amt as i care whether that pyramid-shaped hotel in pyongyang (almost-ready in '90...) gets finished |
| 18:21 |
trinque |
eh, by this chiseling nobody is left standing. |
| 18:21 |
trinque |
and we're all welcome to the fate of the lonely drunk. |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
the drink is optional but sure |
| 18:24 |
trinque |
there was an implicit entitlement to free labor in this "what did X publish" |
| 18:24 |
trinque |
i.e. we all behaved as slaves |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: i read it as moar of a stab 'see , lamers, haven't even published since $year' |
| 18:25 |
trinque |
I will wait until asciilifeform kindly posts what he will, and otherwise leave him to his work. |
| 18:25 |
trinque |
time machine, he lacks. |
| 18:26 |
trinque |
otherwise one can grunt about which is "last man" and which "ubermensch" and why aren't there more |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: asciilifeform's interest in 'who is lamer of the day' is quite minimal. |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
sorta wai i try not to participate in the threads on subj . |
| 18:28 |
trinque |
sure, was mostly response to shinohai |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
a |
| 18:28 |
trinque |
I've put my flamethrower down as well |
| 18:32 |
shinohai |
For me, good 'ol hearty lampooning - I bear no ill will to participants of whatever cult. |
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~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 19:17 |
mats |
i dont think mp really means to steal from the next chair of tbf, he wants something and wants jurov to stew a bit |
| 19:18 |
mats |
sucks for his clients though |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
| 20:01 |
asciilifeform |
mats: near as i can tell, what he wants is this . and naturally he doesn't think of it as 'steal', thinks whole visible universe belongs to him . |
| 20:01 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-03-25 17:23:22 asciilifeform: ftr i do not believe for a moment in 'mp is outta biz'. he's very much in biz, working double time to poison all of the remaining wells, set folx against one another, make sure the earth properly salted so that republic (the only kind possible -- the kind w/out mp, the kind 'with' is called a reich) is properly down, and his theses 'properly confirmed' |
| 20:06 |
mats |
he used words like 'until' and 'freeze', i dont think thats fair |
| 20:07 |
asciilifeform |
mats: i'm not aware of jurov owing mp anyffin for which to 'until'. |
| 20:07 |
mats |
everybody in this thing and folks in the periphery like me, has an unhealthy relationship with hyperbole and drama |
| 20:11 |
mats |
im not defending anyone's behavior, it is incredible to me anyone would burn their reputation in Bitcoin in a nondispute with someone who helped them (and of course helping themselves) make a lot of money together |
| 20:11 |
asciilifeform |
mats: all i got is the public wank, but difficult to come to any conclusion but 'mpex turned into you-can-have-yer-coin-back-unless-i-dunlike-yerface item' |
| 20:14 |
asciilifeform |
mats: people (esp. 'in tilt mode') are capable of some 'incredible' things. e.g. prisoners who nail own balls to the floor to protest. |
| 20:15 |
mats |
sure, if mp had a problem with jurov checking out, he couldve said something instead of nursing a grudge and then blowing up when nobody knew he was upset until then |
| 20:16 |
mats |
the comic nature of the whole situation is very worthy of couples counseling |
| 20:18 |
mats |
like does mp just not care if nobody ever uses mpex again? got his fees so w/e? i find that hard to believe |
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| 20:19 |
asciilifeform |
mats: he wrapped up the pyramid when took mpoe private. after this (sole remaining product -- smg's, w/ no visible profit model) -- why would care if anyone uses mpex ? |
| 20:20 |
asciilifeform |
as for why 'comical' method, seems that he has a fondness for 'kick the dog until it bites, then shoot as 'rabid'' method of getting rid of inconvenient people while keeping up face of 'principled' |
| 20:20 |
asciilifeform |
it worked with e.g. kako (who in the end was driven into temptation to try and pilfer from liquidation fund, iirc) |
| 20:21 |
mats |
kako had it coming, we've been over that |
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| 20:22 |
asciilifeform |
it didn't work w/ snsa, where asciilifeform sent all liquidated inventory where asked, much, i suspect, to mp's indignation |
| 20:22 |
mats |
literally the only thing jurov did was check out, but in the meantime he kept up his responsibilities to tmsr |
| 20:23 |
mats |
mp is more powerful with mpex than without, and more powerful when people trust that he will meet his contract obligations |
| 20:23 |
asciilifeform |
mats: as i surmise, 'checked out' in his pov is 'deserter' |
| 20:24 |
mats |
a deserter that didnt run away with treasury funds, kept ml and lxr up, and kept servicing clients who wanted to be part of mpex corps |
| 20:24 |
mats |
and who knows what else, jurov was more useful to tmsr than i ever was |
| 20:26 |
mats |
anyways thats all i got. sorry for polluting your chan |
| 20:26 |
asciilifeform |
mats: he didn't say much re: jurov, but you can read all about how asciilifeform was (retroactively) ultimate saboteur of all time etc |
| 20:26 |
asciilifeform |
on mp's www |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
in my pov, agreements w/ mp aint worth the electrons they're printed on . |
| 20:28 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2019-11-08 20:38:32 asciilifeform: while the attempt to saddle asciilifeform w/ a debt-laden high-risk isp project, after failure of piz ( observe, in no way isp work is mentioned in orig charter, which concerned 'a series of strong, fully integrated cryptography products, ensuring customers absolute immunity from third party attempts to access their data or communications' ) , and in particular , the marketing work he demanded, is arguably likewise in direct co |
| 20:32 |
mats |
i know how you feel about it, and maybe i'm a hopeless optimist but i still daydream tmsr under mp and all the rest of us who have contributed their time and money, can get back together one day in the future |
| 20:32 |
asciilifeform |
right after 'beatles' get together, lol |
| 20:32 |
asciilifeform |
with lennon. |
| 20:34 |
asciilifeform |
mats: interesting historical parallel (you may think odd choice, but) to mp -- che guevara. |
| 20:34 |
mats |
we still fundamentally share the same goals, even if some have been understandably discouraged from long years of service with relatively fewer wins in between |
| 20:34 |
mats |
ok, i shouldnt speak for anyone else, but i am unchanged |
| 20:35 |
asciilifeform |
mats: for my part i'm doing almost exactly same thing nao as in prev. n yrs. |
| 20:35 |
asciilifeform |
but with 1 fewer maniac to struggle with daily and 'fuck you , disobedient peon' etc |
| 20:36 |
mats |
i know, thank you, i could not hope to reproduce your efforts in a lifetime |
| 20:36 |
mats |
i am still happy to pay for a year of phuctor upkeep, btw, send me the bill when youre ready |
| 20:36 |
asciilifeform |
atm for instance writing docs to go with ~1k loc of proggy for publication |
| 20:37 |
asciilifeform |
mats: the machine that it's to go on is actually plugged in already since i fetched it from uy. is hosting the logger atm. |
| 20:38 |
asciilifeform |
mats: if you want to donate for upkeep, feel free to use the signed addr on my www. but it aint starving, i actually managed to fill ~90% of avail. amperage w/ paying subscribers. |
| 20:38 |
mats |
like i said before its not charity. can you give me a number? |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
mats: if specifically for phuctor, let's talk again 1ce i put back in service . |
| 20:39 |
* |
asciilifeform appreciates offer . |
| 20:39 |
mats |
ok, ill be around |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
btw mats , there are rk's avail. if you happen to need . |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
'apu1' also unsold . |
| 20:40 |
asciilifeform |
err, apu3 |