| 00:02 |
mod6 |
Happy birthday alf! |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
ty mod6 ! |
| 00:02 |
mod6 |
ofc, :] |
| 00:03 |
shinohai |
С Днем рожденья! |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
спасибо shinohai |
| 00:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Felicidades |
| 00:10 |
lobbes |
happy bday asciilifeform |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
danke, BingoBoingo , lobbes . |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in 'fan mail' . |
| 00:38 |
Vexual |
another trip around the sun? well done sir |
| 00:41 |
asciilifeform |
lol ty Vexual |
| 00:42 |
shinohai |
Virtually unscathed by the cosmic rays even. |
| 00:43 |
asciilifeform |
no meteorite holes, even!11 |
| 00:44 |
shinohai |
One hole, right in the FeNi! (*ba dum TISS) |
| 00:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Only have a week and a half until you venture in a machine designed to reduce the amount of air between you and the source of the rays. |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 01:14 |
Vexual |
www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/xray/energ_small.jpg |
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~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 01:59 |
asciilifeform |
lol that ^ was a truly terribad photo wasn't it. |
| 01:59 |
Vexual |
I like it |
| 01:59 |
asciilifeform |
( combo shot of 3, so 3x the dust ) |
| 02:01 |
* |
asciilifeform used a 35mm negative scanner for these |
| 02:02 |
Vexual |
to digitize? or to expose? |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
former |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
how exposed, is written in the orig article |
| 02:03 |
Vexual |
I just looked at the pictures. I'm sure as shit not going to repeat the experiment |
| 02:04 |
asciilifeform |
subj. contact print. |
| 02:04 |
asciilifeform |
theoretically if had exposed die, could in fact bring out whole thing to a4 film, tube is a needlepoint 'microfocus' w/ beryllium window. |
| 02:11 |
asciilifeform |
beam source pictured there. |
| 02:11 |
snsabot |
(trilema) 2019-02-16 asciilifeform: in other noose, instrument pr0n : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/panel.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/inside1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/achtung.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/mx20/inside2.jpg |
| 02:16 |
asciilifeform |
wasn't much of an experiment, Vexual , was equip. test really. |
| 02:16 |
Vexual |
I see |
| 02:17 |
Vexual |
You made some nice images |
| 02:18 |
asciilifeform |
i still have the instrument, it will be handy when next batch of defective pcb ends up on desk. |
| 02:18 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2019-11-08 22:10:38 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and i admit that i'm looking forward to seeing folx grow hands in the process of trying to remake / do w/out , e.g. FG. i expect that diana_coman for instance will soon find out why i needed a microscope, and why it would have been pretty great to have the (such hated by mp) xray instrument when crates of subtly defective pcb's come in from factory. |
| 02:20 |
Vexual |
still got film? |
| 02:20 |
asciilifeform |
indeed |
| 02:27 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps strangely, the least grainy film was that dental crapola from india. rather than the 'proper' a4 kodak. |
| 02:27 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 02:29 |
asciilifeform |
'fuji a4' , also grainy, for thread-completeness. |
| 02:30 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: India produces pretty much all of the world's medical supplies consumed outside the US. They probably do sufficient volume to refine their quality. |
| 02:30 |
asciilifeform |
possibly film is blameless, oughta have used straight exposure instead of scintillator sheet. |
| 02:32 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: ~in~ us also |
| 02:32 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Last time I was there, all the generic drugs were "Teva" outta Israel, but that may have changed. |
| 02:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: 'teva' makes the pseudo-generics, i.e. that price-fixing scheme where 1 usg-designated vendors gets to 'genericize' |
| 02:34 |
asciilifeform |
y'know, where 'generic' xyz still costs 900$/bottle, instead of the 10c would've cost if made su-style |
| 02:35 |
asciilifeform |
(ameri-damaged folx are , as i gather, expected to fall on knees and thank Great Inca that it's 'omfg 900 and not 9000 like orig brand' ) |
| 02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Right, but they US also has that weird thing where they gotta fund their unsinkable aircraft carrier on the Mediterranean that for some reason can't stop drawing aggro |
| 02:36 |
asciilifeform |
absolutely nuffin that sits on a standard pharmacy shelf costs > 1$ / bottle to actually make. |
| 02:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Here everything is Euro brands or India doing their patent pissing thing |
| 02:36 |
asciilifeform |
( there are expensive oddities like e.g. human butyrylcholinesterase, 'v-gas' pre-battle antidote, but it aint in plebe pharmacy ) |
| 02:38 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: israel lives off usg's 'intellectual property'(tm)(r) fairy tale to much greater, afaik, extent, than the phree tanks/jets/etc |
| 02:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Well... it's a soviet shithole like Uruguay... without the cows or the space to do cows. |
| 02:42 |
asciilifeform |
they can annex the petrostans and get 500x bigger whenever they feel like taking off the washington yoke. |
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↖ |
| 02:42 |
Vexual |
How so? |
| 02:44 |
asciilifeform |
1.5e6 bayonets + supposedly decent armour + not fucking cousins, oughta be good for some lebensraum, neh. |
| 02:45 |
Vexual |
folks don't like dying these days alf |
| 02:45 |
asciilifeform |
errybody , lol, dies, 'like' or notlike |
| 02:46 |
Vexual |
true enough |
| 02:47 |
asciilifeform |
iirc adlai described serving in tank platoon and eating lsd inside tank outta boredom. |
| 02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought the orthodox population breeding with rabbits did the cousin fucking thing. Hence their weird genetic conditions. |
| 02:48 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: these afaik dun get drafted en masse, yet |
| 02:48 |
Vexual |
i suspect adlai decided not to die that day too |
| 02:52 |
asciilifeform |
Vexual: y'know some folx in usa actually move there ? just to join army and maybe see action |
| 02:53 |
asciilifeform |
(because in usa army : e.g. this . ) |
| 02:53 |
snsabot |
(trilema) 2019-03-01 asciilifeform: at one time did work that put'im in contact with these folx. met a d00d who, convincingly, described playing 'call of duty: iraq' on... lappy, in actual iraq |
| 02:54 |
Vexual |
i did not know that |
| 02:55 |
asciilifeform |
war is essential 'vitamin' for sanity, for man. 'civilized' world cooks in own juices, i'm entirely convinced, because no proper war to be had. |
| 02:55 |
asciilifeform |
tabletop death in tabletop 'war' aint quite satisfactory substitute, turns out. |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
engineer always stays behing to extricate machine. dangerous job |
| 02:58 |
Vexual |
2 hands only |
| 02:58 |
asciilifeform |
iirc adlai was driver-mechanic aha |
| 02:58 |
asciilifeform |
'мехвод' on asciilifeform's homeworld. |
| 02:59 |
Vexual |
can't read but i get it |
| 03:00 |
* |
asciilifeform would guess that they have a similar neologism, there, il bureaucracy is closely modeled on ye olde sovok, for the very obv. reason |
| 03:00 |
Vexual |
where? |
| 03:01 |
asciilifeform |
israel |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
ah |
| 03:08 |
asciilifeform |
'peace' for most folx is ~= waiting to die of boredom in crowded train goin' nowhere. |
| 03:16 |
Vexual |
Most folks |
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~ 34 minutes ~ |
| 03:50 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA3kQKTbjzs |
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~ 47 minutes ~ |
| 04:38 |
* |
asciilifeform has been reading jfw's proggy. e.g. this is pretty interesting -- apparently fella not only read ffa series ( how far didja read, jfw ? ) but in fact did sumthing constructive ! |
| 04:40 |
asciilifeform |
this here also imho interesting : 'An implication of this encoding is that even though [TRB] only emits uncompressed form, and no implementation has ever to my knowledge used hybrid form, there are three P2PKH addresses spendable by any given private key, and a consensus-compatible verifier must support all forms.' |
| 04:41 |
asciilifeform |
wonder whether the historic chain contains all 3 variants. and what would happen if one were to construct 'doublespend' crowbar re same. |
| 04:43 |
Vexual |
only just clicked on this. it's definitely worth looking at |
| 04:44 |
Vexual |
did you have some vodka? |
| 04:45 |
Vexual |
i expect police |
| 04:46 |
Vexual |
if you got a proper enlarger. |
| 04:50 |
Vexual |
i might be talking out of turn |
| 04:51 |
Vexual |
is this the guy with a new cr house? |
| 04:55 |
Vexual |
here my .za accent |
| 04:55 |
Vexual |
wot kikban |
| 04:56 |
Vexual |
i'll solve myselft into a devilish pit |
| 04:57 |
Vexual |
vex out |
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~ 8 hours 25 minutes ~ |
| 13:22 |
shinohai |
In other fun this morning: |
| 13:22 |
shinohai |
08:21:17 shinohai !eval: + |
| 13:22 |
shinohai |
08:21:17 mal-bot #<Proc:0x0000562e855866c8@/home/malbot/mal-bot/core.rb:31 (lambda)> |
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~ 2 hours 21 minutes ~ |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: what's that ? |
| 15:44 |
shinohai |
It's an eval bot for the https://github.com/kanaka/mal chan. I was determined to find *which* implementation it used xD |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: lulzy. there's e.g. an amazingly ugly (rampant heapism, among other ughs) ada lisp in there |
| 15:47 |
shinohai |
Yeah I saw it and kind lul'd ... I was experimenting with the bash version (which with a few tweaks is very nice for scripting) |
| 15:49 |
shinohai |
I managed to get it to perform a few bitwise ops, eg: |
| 15:49 |
shinohai |
./eval http://btc.info.gf/paste/c14a6d@raw |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
a = 88 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
b = 13 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
Left shift of a and b is: 720896 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
Right shift of a and b is: 0 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
BITWISE AND of a and b is: 8 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
BITWISE INCLUSIVE OR of a and b is: 93 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
BITWISE EXCLUSIVE OR of a and b is: 85 |
| 15:49 |
btcinfobot |
[00;32mNIL[0m |
| 15:49 |
shinohai |
(apologies for spammy output) |
| 15:52 |
* |
shinohai 's main gripe is the clojure-like syntax heh |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 16:18 |
shinohai |
http://archive.is/nICsM "It looks like [this file] tries to exfiltrate SSH and GPG keys from a user's computer and send them to this IPaddress: http://68.183.212.246:32258." |
| 16:19 |
shinohai |
`pip3 install rekt` |
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~ 1 hours ~ |
| 17:19 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: potential q fodder ^ there . |
| 17:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Giving the thing a look |
| 17:21 |
shinohai |
I promise not to come and make provocative comments. |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 17:44 |
asciilifeform |
spyked: can plz add jfw's www to the feedbot roster for #a ? ty |
| 17:51 |
feedbot |
http://qntra.net/2019/12/some-key-stealing-libraries-found-in-python-package-index/ << Qntra -- Some Key Stealing Libraries Found in Python Package Index |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 18:11 |
asciilifeform |
will link manually : jfw has an optimized keccaktron . tested; builds, seems to work (matches output of the traditional one by diana_coman when set to 256bit capacity.) |
| 18:15 |
shinohai |
I'm still trying to fix esthlos keccak ... it does build and work properly, but as I discussed w/ spyked cannot pipe stdin to it, can only read from file. |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: fella in fact found an algebraic simplification for the thing, i gotta take off hat |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
this is iirc 1st time anyone posted an algo imho worth cribbing, since apeloyee vanished |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen-anywhere apeloyee |
| 18:16 |
snsabot |
apeloyee last seen in #trilema on 2018-01-17 15:25:16: !#s whisperers |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
i'ma crib an' adaize jfw's method after i 'fit in head' w/ paper & pen.. |
| 18:19 |
shinohai |
I saw his post in logs on scheme bits for trb, will read posts when time permits. |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: he has a (apparently complete, tho i did not test) secp256k1 engine in there. tho to use in 'peh' i'ma need to make physical bounds analysis for it. |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
( jfw's bignum system is made along traditional line, i.e. permits expanding bitnesses for integers ) |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
( even to run on plain ffa, rather than in peh proper, would need this. e.g. what is max bitness of 'scalar*' output ? ) |
| 18:29 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: FG serial output is 5V or 3.3V ? |
| 18:30 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: 3.3. it'll work w/ 5v-eating converters tho, is above the typical 2v high threshold . |
| 18:30 |
jurov |
can't find usb serial cable, considering rpi which is 3.3V device |
| 18:30 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: oughta work. so long as you feed FG 5v on the + pin as it expects. |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: didja get both of yer crates btw ? |
| 18:31 |
jurov |
yes, both |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
ok good |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: make sure to config the tty as shown in the instruction (to disable controlflow 'magic' chars.) |
| 18:32 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: ty for the update. |
| 18:32 |
BingoBoingo |
All 4 arrived in good condition? |
| 18:32 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo: yours not yet |
| 18:32 |
BingoBoingo |
AH |
| 18:34 |
asciilifeform |
ftr : if anyone finds that he has damaged his FG , plz contact not asciilifeform , but jfw , if want to buy spare parts ( jfw purchased the entire stock of spare analogue boards . ) |
| 18:35 |
asciilifeform |
( i do not know if he's making'em available for purchase, but that's where they are nao. ) |
| 18:36 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: if yer feeding it ~from~ a 'raspberry', make sure the pin can supply at least 3mA @ 5v . |
| 18:38 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: one of my early tty converters had a 3.3/5v selector jumper, but it affected only ~output~ (tx), recall that FG does not accept any ~input~ from comp. |
| 18:39 |
asciilifeform |
FG is a pure output dev. (like e.g. microphones.) |
| 18:50 |
asciilifeform |
( it ~can~ be forced to accept external ~clock~ pulses, in 'yoke' mode, see instr. sheet. but this is prolly not of interest to most owners. ) |
| 18:55 |
jurov |
rpi has 5V Vcc pin to feed various "shields", it can surely do 3mA |
| 18:55 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: is this yer 1st FG ? ( for some reason i thought you had some prior ) |
| 18:56 |
jurov |
first one |
| 18:56 |
asciilifeform |
a. |
| 18:56 |
asciilifeform |
congrats jurov |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i highly rec to carry out the traditional tests , before using in battlefield. |
| 19:10 |
asciilifeform |
( see the user test reports linked on the legacy www re how. ) |
| 19:16 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: if planning to use in a server, see the photo there ^ , or here , i've yet to find a rackable machine where there is nowhere for at least 1 FG to live. |
| 19:16 |
jurov |
yes, thx. and it it works, 7.3kB/s of fine distilled garbage :) |
| 19:16 |
asciilifeform |
a+++ |
| 19:17 |
asciilifeform |
being an entropy collector, FG ~likes~ heat. put'em near warm things, like e.g. raid card as shown in latter link |
| 19:18 |
jurov |
ok |
| 19:18 |
jurov |
the second one works too |
| 19:19 |
jurov |
fun fact, rpi runs getty on /dev/ttyAMA0 by default... and it quickly segfaulted |
| 19:21 |
asciilifeform |
lol fg fed into shell... pretty good 'fuzz' |
| 19:21 |
asciilifeform |
if only you had recorded what it had eaten... |