#asciilifeform | 2019-12-14

03:52

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-12-04#1003082 << there are several issues standing in the way of this

03:52

Logged on 2019-12-04 02:42:34 asciilifeform: they can annex the petrostans and get 500x bigger whenever they feel like taking off the washington yoke.

03:54

adlai

they boil down to what a friend of mine, who was actually a true soldier (i.e., infantry; iirc, not even an NCO, just a dude with a rifle and magazines), summarized as: "the idf is not an army, it is a militia"

03:57

adlai

there are also severe ideological barriers to the currently-existing state of israel invading anywhere even close to what it did in 1967

03:58

BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: Back home, pizza in the fridge

03:59

adlai

while there are indeed a few vocal politicians who want to build a "jewish state of the levant", and a significant minority of the citizens who would not oppose this, there are actually very few citizens who would fight in such a war

04:01

mats

hard to believe israel can stand against their innumerable enemies, especially after being fought to a stalemate in 06 and the expansion of the shia crescent since

04:02

mats

saudis are weaker today with the young idiot running shit, also

04:05

adlai

the bulk of the IDF's power is in the reserves, and they are prepared for defense of the existing territory. exercises occasionally include simulations of "what if now we invade damascus", but in practice the reserves are set up to respond to a situation where one or more borders have been breached

04:06

BingoBoingo

mats: If anything the kid and the rest of the House of Saud seem rather friendly with the Israelis in light of the recent Shia supremacy in the region

04:06

adlai

(soldiers in the enlisted army are routinely reminded, "your job is to hold off the invaders for N hours/days, while reservists arrive; and they will provide cover for the ambulances that take your corpses home")

~ 27 minutes ~

04:34

asciilifeform

BingoBoingo: also home, about to sleep

04:34

asciilifeform

adlai: interesting detail, had nfi

04:36

BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: Premilinary map looking puts of floor of about 23-24 km for the day

04:37

asciilifeform